June 18, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the latest political developments, national security concerns, and cultural debates shaping America under the leadership of President Donald Trump. Broadcasting from Washington, D.C., Clay Travis opens the hour with a vivid description of the aesthetic upgrades President Trump has made to the White House, including new flagpoles and a gold-embellished Oval Office, as well as plans for an outdoor dining patio inspired by Mar-a-Lago. A major focus of this hour is the Supreme Court’s landmark decision affirming Tennessee’s right to restrict gender transition surgeries for minors. Clay previews an upcoming interview with Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti, who successfully argued the case, and emphasizes the widespread parental support for such protections. The show then shifts to a critical foreign policy discussion on Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Clay analyzes polling data from CNN showing overwhelming bipartisan agreement—across Republicans, Democrats, and Independents—that Iran must not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons. He highlights that nearly 70% of Republican voters support U.S. airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, aligning with President Trump’s America First doctrine. Clay defends the rationality behind Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons from a geopolitical standpoint, while strongly advocating for decisive U.S. action to prevent it. Clay also addresses internal GOP debates, noting that figures like Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene may oppose military intervention, but emphasizes that disagreement within a political movement is healthy and essential to democracy. He passionately defends the First Amendment, criticizing past censorship by platforms like YouTube and Facebook, especially regarding interviews with President Trump and Senator Rand Paul. In a cultural commentary segment, Clay revisits his viral moment on CNN involving the phrase “First Amendment and boobs,” sparking a humorous yet pointed discussion on free speech, media bias, and language censorship. He also responds to criticism of his remarks about Representative Ilhan Omar, reiterating his belief that those who claim America is one of the worst countries should consider relocating if they have the means.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can I get now Number two, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton
show apprecade all of you hanging out with us. Big
beautiful flags now flying over the White House just down
the road from me, as Trump has a put in
place some brand new flag towers, flagpoles, I guess is
maybe the more accurate way to describe those, and they
(00:23):
are now blowing beautifully. I do not have a television
in this studio, but I am told that they look fantastic.
So Trump just making everything better at the White House.
I will say you know, Buck and I were in
the Oval Office with President Trump on Thursday last week,
(00:43):
and Trump wanted us to see all of the changes
that he had made. He has added a great deal
of gold to the Oval Office and it looks really good.
But first of all, I understand that many of you
are like Clay, you can't even address yourself. I don't
know if I would trust you on on whether or
not you can judge anything of any consequence. So I
(01:04):
respect that, but I will tell you like you sit
and look up at the ceiling in the Oval Office
and there is an awesome presidential seal in gold that
he is embossed there. He's also right now, I think
this is known, but well, anyway, he has broken ground
on a brand new outdoor patio that he is going
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to create so he can have basically an outdoor dining
room when the weather in DC is good, which probably
is what seven and a half eight months out of
the year where you could in theory have a meal
outside in DC maybe maybe seven months, and so that
is going to be very cool. But he's trying to
create essentially the same sort of patio that he has
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in maur Lago. And he was out in front of
the media addressing the situation in Iran. President Trump was
and I'm going to play a couple of cuts on
that here in a moment. I'm going to continue to
take your reactions to the big decision from the Supreme
Court giving Tennessee the right, affirming the state's ability to
(02:11):
say that you can't have surgery trying to change your
gender when you are a minor, something that I would
imagine almost all of you out there that our parents
think makes sense, and so we'll continue to take reaction
from that as well. The Attorney General of Tennessee who
won that Supreme Court case, Jonathan Scurmetti, is scheduled to
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join us about an hour from now, and then also
we're going to talk with Senator Cassidy of Louisiana bottom
half of the hour in the in the next hour,
my final hour, and my final two hours here in DC.
I'll be back in Nashville tomorrow. Okay, So there has
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been a big debate about the decision of whether or
not we should go into Iran and actually use our own,
our own assets to blow up in theory one of
these mountains. And for Greg actually, who is listening right now,
(03:14):
I said in this morning, do we have the CNN
data guys on exactly what the polling shows in terms
of who supports and who does not support the cut thirteen? Okay,
we got that. This is from CNN earlier today. And
I know there's lots of online tempests as people argue
(03:36):
different sides, and they've tried to argue, oh, the base
for Trump does not want him to strike in any
way Iran and keep nuclear weapons from being there. This
would in some way betray the America First Agenda. I
disagree with that, and so do the vast majority of you.
We're gonna play this cut here in a moment, but
(03:57):
let me just say this, there's nothing wrong with this agree.
One of the great things about America is we don't
have to agree on everything, and in fact, by having
discussions debates about what we do and do not agree on,
we oftentimes are going to get to a better result.
(04:20):
The reason why I read the New York Times and
the Washington Post every morning is because I want to
know the arguments that are being made by many people
who disagree with me, and I am open to the
idea that sometimes they might have arguments that make sense
that I should consider as a part of the arguments
that I'm going to discuss with you on any given day.
(04:43):
Conflict one thing I wish we could talk more about.
Conflict is good in public life. Without conflict, there is dictatorship.
The most important right that we have in America is
the right to disagree. The First Amendment is the most
profoundly important of all of our rights. So the fact
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that every single person doesn't agree on every single issue
is in fact good, and we should debate and discuss
robustly all different sorts of ideas, and over time, the
best argument should win. This is probably the most foundational
belief I have in my life to the extent I
(05:27):
believe in anything. I believe in the marketplace of ideas.
This is why I was so troubled when suddenly in
the Biden administration, they're restricting our ability to share stories
on Facebook or YouTube. When YouTube wouldn't allow our interview
with President Trump that we did with him at Bedminster
(05:47):
to be posted because they didn't like some of the
things he said. That's the antithesis of the entire American
democratic process. You should hear everything that every potential elected
official says. You should contemplate them, you should consider them,
you should weigh whether you agree or disagree. They wouldn't
(06:10):
post Rand Paul's interview with us while Rand Paul was
running for reelection in Kentucky. Every Kentuckian out there should
be able to hear every single thing Ran Paul says.
Every American should be able to hear every single thing
the President of the United States says. You should weigh it,
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you should consider it, you should contemplate if he has
the best arguments. All of these things are foundational. So
the fact that Chucker Carlson might disagree with me on
whether we should drop a bomb on Iran to wipe
out their nuclear facilities, or the fact that Marjorie Taylor
Green might disagree with the president if he decides to
(06:51):
do that. That's fine. We don't all have to uniformly
agree on everything, particularly when hard decisions have to be made. Ultimately,
when you vote for president of the United States, do
you know what you're voting for? Judgment? You are voting
and saying some of the most difficult decisions that have
to be made. The president is going to sit right
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behind that resolute desk, and there are going to be
people that make arguments in multiple different directions to him
about what he should do, and then he's going to
consider all those arguments, and he's going to make what
he thinks is the best decisions. Sometimes those are really
hard decisions. In fact, if they make it all the
way to the president, they very often are very hard decisions.
(07:36):
How to handle Iran's nuclear pursuit is not an easy decision.
If it were, it would have been decided a generation ago.
The fact that it's still being decided by the president
is a testament to how committed, in my opinion, Iran
is to getting nuclear weapons, which actually is super rational,
like take yourself out of the United States and pretend
(07:58):
that you were religious fundamentalist. Ayatola Kameni and the Iyatola
was sitting there in Iran takes power nineteen seventy nine,
and he says, I want my religious clerics, I want
the Malas to be in power here for the next
thousand years. What can I do to make sure that
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that's happened, that that's going to happen. If I were
an Iranian, I would advise him, and I was trying
to keep the Mallas in power, I would say, sir,
you should get nuclear weapons. That is a rational decision
by him. He looks at Kim Jong un in North Korea.
I wish Kim Jong un didn't have with nuclear weapons
in North Korea. Guess what the odds of US taking
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out North Korea and reuniting the Korean peninsula, which I
think is what would be the best thing for global commerce,
peace and the growth of human rights in the world,
becomes almost impossible if we have to consider, well, we
got a crazy guy with nuclear weapons. There's no telling
how many tens of millions of people he might kill.
We'll just, unfortunately, have to allow North Korea to be
(09:03):
a crazy backwards totalitarian nation. The same thing would happen
in Iran if they got nuclear weapons. The Ayah totally
gets it. Most Americans get it. In fact, even CNN's
Harry Inton this morning was discussing on CNN that the
vast majority of Americans, Independents and Democrats, Republicans, Democrats, and independents,
(09:26):
all Americans overwhelmingly agree that Iran should not get nuclear weapons.
And then a substantial overwhelming majority of Republicans actually believe
that Trump should be willing to use American force to
keep that from happening. Here is what it sounded like
on CNN this morning, play cut thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
There's been a lot of talk online and on social
media and in podcasts of a divide within the Republican ranks,
but here on this question if Iran's trying to make
a nuclear weapon, look at that sixty.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nine percent of Republicans.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The clear vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes
Iran on their nuclear facilities. But there is this substantial
minority twenty seven percent, who oppose such an idea. So
it's not surprising you're hearing those other voices. Besides Donald
Trump out there, there are plenty of them in the
Republican ranks who oppose striking the US striking around if
they're trying to make a nuclear weapon. But the clear majority,
(10:17):
the clear majority of Republicans are with Donald Trump if
in fact Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons, they
do in fact potentially favor US air strike.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Okay, And it's around eighty percent of Democrats, Republicans and
Independents in that same clip that agree Iran getting nuclear
weapons is a bad thing. Now some people are saying, well,
America First would never support this. America First doesn't mean
that we have to rely on other countries. Just choosing
(10:46):
not to bomb US America first means we should protect
Americans first. I agree with that, and Americans are protected
more so if fewer crazy people have nuclear weapons which
could kill theoretically millions of Americans in the future. I
don't see this as a difficult decision. If Donald Trump,
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who has consistently in his career, is being advised that
by attacking this mountain in Iran where they are trying
to create nuclear weapons, that we could once and for
all wipe out the ability of Iran to get nuclear weapons,
that seems to me to be the very foundational element
of America. First, now an around seventy percent of Republican
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voters seem to agree. Now larger context, what should we
do beyond that? I think that's actually the difficult call.
My concern is if the Iatolas are left in control
of Iran, they are not going to give up on
getting nuclear weapons because it is eminently rational of them
(11:56):
to want nuclear weapons. Does it mean that it's better
for the world, but it is imminently rational of Iran
to want nuclear weapons. Why do you believe that Iran
is suddenly going to say, oh, you know what, we
don't want nuclear weapons. This government since nineteen seventy nine
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has said death to America, death to Israel. They can't
have nuclear weapons. If we agree on that it most
of us do, then the next question is do you
believe they're ever going to stop trying to get them.
The analogy that I made yesterday was it's a little
bit like antibiotics. For those there that have a that
(12:37):
have an illness, you start taking antibiotics. If you take
your entire antibiotics, you kill the infection. If you take
half of them, you risk the infection coming back stronger.
And now anti antibiotic resistant because you haven't killed the virus.
The virus in Iran is they diatolas. If you don't
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kill the virus, Eventually they may come back stronger than ever.
Because I believe they are not going to stop trying
to get nuclear weapons. That is the more challenging question.
If you buy that, which I think is true, then
the next question becomes, Okay, what do we do to
try to address that? Do we take the next step
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and support Israel killing the Ayatola? Do we think that
Iran would let the royal family come back in and
that that would in some way make Iran a free
or safer place, not only for the people who live there,
but for us in America and for those of us
who believe in Western civilization supremacy around the world. Those
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are really difficult questions. I trust Trump and his advising team,
Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseeth, Tulci Gabbard, all of the individuals
in that room making arguments to be making the best, broadest,
most intelligent arguments. And now we have to figure out, Hey,
what is the right choice. That's where we are right now.
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cut twelve as well, because I referenced this, but this
was on CNN. If you strip away the politics sometimes
they're is rationality in many of these different issues. And
(16:04):
actually eighty percent of Americans roughly whether it's Democrats, Independents,
or Republicans, believe that Iran should not be able to
get a nuclear weapon. This is another eighty twenty issue
for President Trump. Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Overall, I feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's
positions than is comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
I mean, look at this, Seventy nine percent of adults
agree on that they agree with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Iron cannot get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Eighty three percent of Republicans seventy nine percent of independence
seventy nine percent of Democrats. When you get seventy nine
percent of Democrats and eighty three percent of Republicans agreeing
on anything, you know that that position is the very
clear majority in this country. And so the American public
is with Donald Trump. They definitely opposed I Ron getting
nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Again, don't get distracted sometimes by the debate and the
noise on social media. And I know some of you
out there, you're like, I'm not on social media at all, Well,
good for you. But the younger you are, the more
likely you are to be on social media, and it's
a very debate filled arena, and sometimes the debates cannot
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be reflective of what the larger American population sees and believes.
I saw this personally without kick where for a decade
or more, I was getting raked over the coals for
saying women shouldn't have to compete against men in sports,
as the only person who would say it that worked
in sports media, and people would attack me like crazy
(17:32):
for that. And guess what, eighty ninety percent of the
American public agrees with me on this, and yet on
social media because it was very left leaning on that issue.
You didn't have an accurate reflection. I think the Trump
team knows this. But the noise. Again, noise is not
a bad thing. Conflict is not a bad thing. The
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best argument can win. But sometimes it appears that arguments
are closer than they actually are in the larger universe
when you actually look at it. Democrats, Republicans, and independents
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Speaker 1 (19:31):
He's offended Greg that I use the word boobs, is Greg,
their producer, Greg uh So, I don't know what words
I could use instead. I don't think Tatas is gonna
make him happy. I don't think knockers is gonna make
(19:51):
him happy. Grand Titans. I don't know what like breast.
It sounds like I'm a real creepy Like I don't
even like using the word penis because it sounds so ridiculous.
But when you've got an entire political party that believes
that you can chop a penis off, I feel like
(20:13):
I have to say it, chop breast off. Boobs off hooters.
I don't know. You guys tell me, I don't want
to offend anyone. You guys tell me what the most
appropriate way to describe female anatomy above the waist is
above the waist, below the neck, above the rib cage,
like I'm I don't know. I think FCC. We had
(20:37):
the commissioner of the FCC on yesterday. I think the
fact that we have any language restriction on this show
at all, in my opinion, is ridiculous and honestly a
function of like nineteen forties America, right. And I don't
even curse that much. I think if my wife were
(20:57):
on air right now, she would say as a as
a person who uses curse words, I would put myself
probably in the bottom ten percent. Like I don't have
that salty of language in general. I try to avoid cursing.
I don't even do it that often. But the fact
that we have these restrictions in any way, I do
(21:20):
think that language sometimes can cut through the otherwise noise
and get noticed. Right Because eight, I'm still banned on
CNN for saying I only believe in two things the
first Amendment in Boobs, if I had just said I'm
a First Amendment absolutist that wouldn't have gone megaviral. Sometimes
(21:44):
the subtle way that you can alter and wouldn't have
made my case as well. But sometimes the subtle way
that you can alter language can have a substantial impact
in cutting through the noise and helping you to win
all arguments. So I do think it is very interesting
(22:06):
how this plays out, Greg because this is something, by
the way, that has come up for years. In general,
this is not gonna shock you. There are some people
out there that don't like me in fact, in fact
that don't like the way I talk. As I'm speaking
to you right now. Headline, Clay Travis rips elon Omar,
(22:27):
why doesn't she go back to Somaliya. Well, that's not
really exactly what I said. Elon Omar said that some
of you may have seen me on Sean Hannity talking
about this last night. I also said it on this show,
but it didn't get picked up here. Elon Omar said
that America was one of the worst countries in the world.
She said that, now, I don't think elon Omar actually
(22:51):
believes that, And in order to prove that she didn't
believe it, I pointed out that she was not born
in the United States. She was actually born in Somalia.
And so my argument is, if you have dual citizenship.
I don't. I'm only an American. But if I thought
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America was one of the worst countries in the world,
and I had been born somewhere else, I would go
back to the other country that I was born in,
if I actually believed it. I don't think that's a
crazy perspective if I were. Let's say, let's say that
I was born in Switzerland and my name was This
(23:34):
is my brother in law. His last name's Blumquist. My
sister is now a last named Blumquist. Let's say that
my last name was Blumquist. I was Cleag Blumquist, and
I was born in Switzerland, and I thought that America
was one of the worst countries in the world. Do
you know what I would do. I would move back
to Switzerland. And I've made fun of Rosie O'Donnell, but
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O'Donnell at least said if Trump wins, I'm leaving, and
then she went to Ireland. Now that's what I was
talking about with Sean Hannity last night. Many of you
are going to be listening on the same radio network
to Sean Hannity in a little bit. But I think
it's funny like Ireland got Rosy O'Donnell, Rosi O'Donnell. I
bet if you're Irish, would be like the seven hundred
(24:22):
and sixty eighth most famous American celebrity that you would
want to move to Ireland if you had to pick
a famous celebrity to move to Ireland. I don't think
the Irish people are like, boy, yes we won, we
got Rosie. I don't think the Irish people are like,
we don't even want Rosy o'donnald, Sidney Sweeney or Rosie o'donnald.
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Who would you rather have in Ireland? Every man's like, well,
we'd rather have I don't have a great Irish accent,
but they would all pick Sidney Sweeney. But you would
go back if one. If you lived truly you thought
in one of the worst countries in the wor world,
the United States, and you had the ability to go
(25:04):
to a country that was better, you would go leave it.
Aside from the United States, if you lived in let's
just talk about in the country, because we can all
move from one state to another. If you lived in
a state and you really thought you lived in the
worst state in the United States, Pick whatever state you
(25:26):
want to be the worst. I am born and raised
in Tennessee. I happen to think it's one of the
best states. But if I thought my home state was awful,
I would move to another state if I thought that
the city that I lived in, assuming you have the
resources to be able to do it, which elon Omar would.
(25:46):
If you thought that you lived in a city that
was awful, what is the worst city in America that
we are not on in right now? I need to
avoid getting tarded feathered by picking the worst city in America.
I think I said the worst city in America, and
(26:06):
I bet we're number one in this city, and I
bet I'm never I think I said Gary, Indiana. I'm
sorry if we are number one in Gary, Indiana, I
take it back. Whatever city we're not on in is
the worst city in America. Clearly, if I thought that
I lived in the worst city in America, I would
move Like this is not They're all like that's one
(26:29):
headline right second headline. OutKick co founder tells representative elon
Omar to go back to Somalia and Hannity Interview, that's
the Independent. So there's all these headlines. People are like, oh,
go back to your No. I would say that to anybody.
(26:51):
If you hate the country that you're in and you
can leave, if you hate the state that you're in
and you can leave, If you hate the city that
you're in and you can leave, you should leave. A
lot of you are listening to me right now. You
used to live in California, and now you live in Tennessee,
or Texas or Florida. You moved because you didn't like
(27:15):
what you saw in the place that you were living.
A ton of you. Buck himself moved Lifelong, New York City,
born and raised, got married, and decided to move to
Florida because he didn't like the choices that were being
made in New York City. The great thing about the
(27:37):
United States is you can move to a new city
or state. But if you had the luxury, it is
a luxury to have multiple passports, which I presume elon
Omar does. I would think she's still a resident of
Somalias and she was born there. That is, I assume
she is still a citizen in some way. Then she
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should go back to Somalia. If she thinks America sucks,
if she thinks she lives in one of the worst
places in the world, which is what she said, then
she should live in a better place in the world. Like,
how is that remotely controversial? And so a lot of
(28:18):
this stuff sometimes, So go back to Somalia. Yeah, do
I know that that's gonna pop and cut through? Yeah,
But I would say go back to Switzerland, go back
to Colombia, go back to Japan. If you think it
sucks here and you are a citizen of multiple countries,
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you should leave. If you truly believe this is one
of the worst countries in the world and you have
an option to live in a better one, you should leave. Now.
The point on this is she's not actually leaving, which
means she knows the argument she's making is be yes.
(29:01):
But sometimes you have to be provocative and cut directly
to the essence of an argument to point out how
illegitimate and dishonest the argument is. Because we live in
an era and a world where totally dishonest arguments are
(29:22):
made every day. We're talking about Iran. About seventy percent
of Republicans, most of whom voted for Trump believe that
we should attack Iran and end, if necessary, their nuclear
weapons capabilities forever. Some people disagree. Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green.
(29:44):
I don't think those people want worse things for America.
I don't think their argument is rooted in wanting something
different than I want. I think they have a good
faith argument that they're concerned that we will get drawn
into another Iraq or another Afghanistan, and that if we attack.
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I can probably make their argument as well or better
than they can, that that is going to ultimately work,
not to the benefit of the United States. I happen
to disagree. I don't think their intent in making the
arguments that they are making is to actually make America worse. Good, reasonable,
(30:30):
rational people can disagree on issues. How many of y'all
are married. My wife probably disagrees with me on things
more than any of you do on a daily basis.
I've been married for twenty plus years. If you are
(30:52):
a man listening to me for twenty plus years and
your wife has agreed with everything that you have said
or done in those twenty plus years, guess what. You're
a damn liar. There isn't a single one of you
out there that can even have uniformity of agreement on
everything inside of your own house. That's why men have
(31:17):
man caves. That's why we vanish, That's why men spend
so much time in the bathroom. We're just looking for
some place, no matter how small it is, where we
can't be disagreed with. This is the whole purpose of
the band cave. Every one of you does it, Like
why the men spend so much time in garages because
women usually aren't there, Like he just got he put
(31:42):
a there. Guys right now listening to me, you barely
even have a garage. You can't even fit a car
in there. Somehow you got a refrigerator full of beer
in there. Your car hasn't run for twenty years. You
got the hood up. It's just to escape. So it's
(32:05):
not a surprise to me that if you can't even
agree on everything with your wife. And by the way,
I'm not saying a husband's always right, by the way,
God forbid, because my wife might be listening, she is
also saying the same thing when she's out with her girlfriends.
Do you know what my moron husband did inevitably all
(32:29):
the time, So why would you expect that seventy seven
million people who voted for Donald Trump are going to
agree on everything. You shouldn't should have real arguments. Sometimes
it's gonna end up on the right side, sometimes gonna
be on the wrong side. There's nothing wrong with being
in the minority on an argument. Sometimes people make really
(32:54):
bad choices. This nation made an awful choice during COVID.
Buck and I were in the minority when we said, yeah,
we don't think we should shut down schools. Yeah. I
don't like the idea that we're trying to distinguish between
essential and non essential businesses, because if you own a business,
every business is essential because it's paying for people to
(33:14):
be able to have their lives, make their mortgage payments.
I don't think people should be told, hey, you're not
allowed to go on a beach and get on a
paddle board, and if you do it, the governor of
California is going to arrest you. Those were things that
were wrong. Maybe we shouldn't have put up crime tape
around playgrounds. Maybe we shouldn't have taken rims off basketball
(33:38):
courts outside. Maybe we shouldn't have told people go sit
on the couch and watch Netflix and eat Cheetos and
expected that everybody wasn't going to end up super fat
and way more unhealthy than they ever would have been
if they had just gotten COVID and dealt with So
sometimes being in the minority of an argument is good
because the minor argument can be the right one. That's
(34:02):
why the First Amendment works because over time you can
convince people, hey, I'm right on this, even if most
people when you initially start making the argument may not
agree with you. When you get this iron situation, the
fact that they're trying to say, oh, everybody in Trump's
base doesn't agree, well, of course not. You and your
(34:24):
wife can't even agree on everything inside of your house,
why would you expect seventy seven million voters outside of
the house to agree on everything. It's good. Conflict is
good because in theory, the entire basis of the United
States is the more arguments we make, the better result
(34:44):
we end up with. The best argument over time is
going to win. That's why Trump, I think, has gone
from sixty four million roughly votes in twenty sixteen to
seventy seven million in twenty twenty four because the more
time people spent listening to his arguments, the more they
came to say, you know what, this guy is actually
(35:05):
getting to the right place more often than not. Now,
is he a bull in a china shop on the way? Yeah?
And sometimes does he make a bigger mess than he
needs to getting to the right result one billion percent,
But that doesn't mean he's wrong. And I think he's
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some fun in the third hour. Appreciate all the talkbacks.
(36:50):
When we come back at the top of the next hour,
we're gonna get head down to Nashville, where the Attorney
General of Tennessee, Jonathan Scurmetti, who argued the case that
was decided today on gender care, saying that you can't
chop off a kid's boobs or their penis because they
happen to think they're the wrong gender when they're fourteen
(37:12):
or fifteen years old. In the state of Tennessee, that's allowed.
He's next keep hanging
Can I get now Number two, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton
show apprecade all of you hanging out with us. Big
beautiful flags now flying over the White House just down
the road from me, as Trump has a put in
place some brand new flag towers, flagpoles, I guess is
maybe the more accurate way to describe those, and they
(00:23):
are now blowing beautifully. I do not have a television
in this studio, but I am told that they look fantastic.
So Trump just making everything better at the White House.
I will say you know, Buck and I were in
the Oval Office with President Trump on Thursday last week,
(00:43):
and Trump wanted us to see all of the changes
that he had made. He has added a great deal
of gold to the Oval Office and it looks really good.
But first of all, I understand that many of you
are like Clay, you can't even address yourself. I don't
know if I would trust you on on whether or
not you can judge anything of any consequence. So I
(01:04):
respect that, but I will tell you like you sit
and look up at the ceiling in the Oval Office
and there is an awesome presidential seal in gold that
he is embossed there. He's also right now, I think
this is known, but well, anyway, he has broken ground
on a brand new outdoor patio that he is going
(01:27):
to create so he can have basically an outdoor dining
room when the weather in DC is good, which probably
is what seven and a half eight months out of
the year where you could in theory have a meal
outside in DC maybe maybe seven months, and so that
is going to be very cool. But he's trying to
create essentially the same sort of patio that he has
(01:48):
in maur Lago. And he was out in front of
the media addressing the situation in Iran. President Trump was
and I'm going to play a couple of cuts on
that here in a moment. I'm going to continue to
take your reactions to the big decision from the Supreme
Court giving Tennessee the right, affirming the state's ability to
(02:11):
say that you can't have surgery trying to change your
gender when you are a minor, something that I would
imagine almost all of you out there that our parents
think makes sense, and so we'll continue to take reaction
from that as well. The Attorney General of Tennessee who
won that Supreme Court case, Jonathan Scurmetti, is scheduled to
(02:31):
join us about an hour from now, and then also
we're going to talk with Senator Cassidy of Louisiana bottom
half of the hour in the in the next hour,
my final hour, and my final two hours here in DC.
I'll be back in Nashville tomorrow. Okay, So there has
(02:52):
been a big debate about the decision of whether or
not we should go into Iran and actually use our own,
our own assets to blow up in theory one of
these mountains. And for Greg actually, who is listening right now,
(03:14):
I said in this morning, do we have the CNN
data guys on exactly what the polling shows in terms
of who supports and who does not support the cut thirteen? Okay,
we got that. This is from CNN earlier today. And
I know there's lots of online tempests as people argue
(03:36):
different sides, and they've tried to argue, oh, the base
for Trump does not want him to strike in any
way Iran and keep nuclear weapons from being there. This
would in some way betray the America First Agenda. I
disagree with that, and so do the vast majority of you.
We're gonna play this cut here in a moment, but
(03:57):
let me just say this, there's nothing wrong with this agree.
One of the great things about America is we don't
have to agree on everything, and in fact, by having
discussions debates about what we do and do not agree on,
we oftentimes are going to get to a better result.
(04:20):
The reason why I read the New York Times and
the Washington Post every morning is because I want to
know the arguments that are being made by many people
who disagree with me, and I am open to the
idea that sometimes they might have arguments that make sense
that I should consider as a part of the arguments
that I'm going to discuss with you on any given day.
(04:43):
Conflict one thing I wish we could talk more about.
Conflict is good in public life. Without conflict, there is dictatorship.
The most important right that we have in America is
the right to disagree. The First Amendment is the most
profoundly important of all of our rights. So the fact
(05:07):
that every single person doesn't agree on every single issue
is in fact good, and we should debate and discuss
robustly all different sorts of ideas, and over time, the
best argument should win. This is probably the most foundational
belief I have in my life to the extent I
(05:27):
believe in anything. I believe in the marketplace of ideas.
This is why I was so troubled when suddenly in
the Biden administration, they're restricting our ability to share stories
on Facebook or YouTube. When YouTube wouldn't allow our interview
with President Trump that we did with him at Bedminster
(05:47):
to be posted because they didn't like some of the
things he said. That's the antithesis of the entire American
democratic process. You should hear everything that every potential elected
official says. You should contemplate them, you should consider them,
you should weigh whether you agree or disagree. They wouldn't
(06:10):
post Rand Paul's interview with us while Rand Paul was
running for reelection in Kentucky. Every Kentuckian out there should
be able to hear every single thing Ran Paul says.
Every American should be able to hear every single thing
the President of the United States says. You should weigh it,
(06:31):
you should consider it, you should contemplate if he has
the best arguments. All of these things are foundational. So
the fact that Chucker Carlson might disagree with me on
whether we should drop a bomb on Iran to wipe
out their nuclear facilities, or the fact that Marjorie Taylor
Green might disagree with the president if he decides to
(06:51):
do that. That's fine. We don't all have to uniformly
agree on everything, particularly when hard decisions have to be made. Ultimately,
when you vote for president of the United States, do
you know what you're voting for? Judgment? You are voting
and saying some of the most difficult decisions that have
to be made. The president is going to sit right
(07:13):
behind that resolute desk, and there are going to be
people that make arguments in multiple different directions to him
about what he should do, and then he's going to
consider all those arguments, and he's going to make what
he thinks is the best decisions. Sometimes those are really
hard decisions. In fact, if they make it all the
way to the president, they very often are very hard decisions.
(07:36):
How to handle Iran's nuclear pursuit is not an easy decision.
If it were, it would have been decided a generation ago.
The fact that it's still being decided by the president
is a testament to how committed, in my opinion, Iran
is to getting nuclear weapons, which actually is super rational,
like take yourself out of the United States and pretend
(07:58):
that you were religious fundamentalist. Ayatola Kameni and the Iyatola
was sitting there in Iran takes power nineteen seventy nine,
and he says, I want my religious clerics, I want
the Malas to be in power here for the next
thousand years. What can I do to make sure that
(08:18):
that's happened, that that's going to happen. If I were
an Iranian, I would advise him, and I was trying
to keep the Mallas in power, I would say, sir,
you should get nuclear weapons. That is a rational decision
by him. He looks at Kim Jong un in North Korea.
I wish Kim Jong un didn't have with nuclear weapons
in North Korea. Guess what the odds of US taking
(08:39):
out North Korea and reuniting the Korean peninsula, which I
think is what would be the best thing for global commerce,
peace and the growth of human rights in the world,
becomes almost impossible if we have to consider, well, we
got a crazy guy with nuclear weapons. There's no telling
how many tens of millions of people he might kill.
We'll just, unfortunately, have to allow North Korea to be
(09:03):
a crazy backwards totalitarian nation. The same thing would happen
in Iran if they got nuclear weapons. The Ayah totally
gets it. Most Americans get it. In fact, even CNN's
Harry Inton this morning was discussing on CNN that the
vast majority of Americans, Independents and Democrats, Republicans, Democrats, and independents,
(09:26):
all Americans overwhelmingly agree that Iran should not get nuclear weapons.
And then a substantial overwhelming majority of Republicans actually believe
that Trump should be willing to use American force to
keep that from happening. Here is what it sounded like
on CNN this morning, play cut thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
There's been a lot of talk online and on social
media and in podcasts of a divide within the Republican ranks,
but here on this question if Iran's trying to make
a nuclear weapon, look at that sixty.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Nine percent of Republicans.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The clear vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes
Iran on their nuclear facilities. But there is this substantial
minority twenty seven percent, who oppose such an idea. So
it's not surprising you're hearing those other voices. Besides Donald
Trump out there, there are plenty of them in the
Republican ranks who oppose striking the US striking around if
they're trying to make a nuclear weapon. But the clear majority,
(10:17):
the clear majority of Republicans are with Donald Trump if
in fact Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons, they
do in fact potentially favor US air strike.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Okay, And it's around eighty percent of Democrats, Republicans and
Independents in that same clip that agree Iran getting nuclear
weapons is a bad thing. Now some people are saying, well,
America First would never support this. America First doesn't mean
that we have to rely on other countries. Just choosing
(10:46):
not to bomb US America first means we should protect
Americans first. I agree with that, and Americans are protected
more so if fewer crazy people have nuclear weapons which
could kill theoretically millions of Americans in the future. I
don't see this as a difficult decision. If Donald Trump,
(11:09):
who has consistently in his career, is being advised that
by attacking this mountain in Iran where they are trying
to create nuclear weapons, that we could once and for
all wipe out the ability of Iran to get nuclear weapons,
that seems to me to be the very foundational element
of America. First, now an around seventy percent of Republican
(11:33):
voters seem to agree. Now larger context, what should we
do beyond that? I think that's actually the difficult call.
My concern is if the Iatolas are left in control
of Iran, they are not going to give up on
getting nuclear weapons because it is eminently rational of them
(11:56):
to want nuclear weapons. Does it mean that it's better
for the world, but it is imminently rational of Iran
to want nuclear weapons. Why do you believe that Iran
is suddenly going to say, oh, you know what, we
don't want nuclear weapons. This government since nineteen seventy nine
(12:17):
has said death to America, death to Israel. They can't
have nuclear weapons. If we agree on that it most
of us do, then the next question is do you
believe they're ever going to stop trying to get them.
The analogy that I made yesterday was it's a little
bit like antibiotics. For those there that have a that
(12:37):
have an illness, you start taking antibiotics. If you take
your entire antibiotics, you kill the infection. If you take
half of them, you risk the infection coming back stronger.
And now anti antibiotic resistant because you haven't killed the virus.
The virus in Iran is they diatolas. If you don't
(13:02):
kill the virus, Eventually they may come back stronger than ever.
Because I believe they are not going to stop trying
to get nuclear weapons. That is the more challenging question.
If you buy that, which I think is true, then
the next question becomes, Okay, what do we do to
try to address that? Do we take the next step
(13:24):
and support Israel killing the Ayatola? Do we think that
Iran would let the royal family come back in and
that that would in some way make Iran a free
or safer place, not only for the people who live there,
but for us in America and for those of us
who believe in Western civilization supremacy around the world. Those
(13:47):
are really difficult questions. I trust Trump and his advising team,
Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseeth, Tulci Gabbard, all of the individuals
in that room making arguments to be making the best, broadest,
most intelligent arguments. And now we have to figure out, Hey,
what is the right choice. That's where we are right now.
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cut twelve as well, because I referenced this, but this
was on CNN. If you strip away the politics sometimes
they're is rationality in many of these different issues. And
(16:04):
actually eighty percent of Americans roughly whether it's Democrats, Independents,
or Republicans, believe that Iran should not be able to
get a nuclear weapon. This is another eighty twenty issue
for President Trump. Listen.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Overall, I feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's
positions than is comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
I mean, look at this, Seventy nine percent of adults
agree on that they agree with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Iron cannot get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Eighty three percent of Republicans seventy nine percent of independence
seventy nine percent of Democrats. When you get seventy nine
percent of Democrats and eighty three percent of Republicans agreeing
on anything, you know that that position is the very
clear majority in this country. And so the American public
is with Donald Trump. They definitely opposed I Ron getting
nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Again, don't get distracted sometimes by the debate and the
noise on social media. And I know some of you
out there, you're like, I'm not on social media at all, Well,
good for you. But the younger you are, the more
likely you are to be on social media, and it's
a very debate filled arena, and sometimes the debates cannot
(17:10):
be reflective of what the larger American population sees and believes.
I saw this personally without kick where for a decade
or more, I was getting raked over the coals for
saying women shouldn't have to compete against men in sports,
as the only person who would say it that worked
in sports media, and people would attack me like crazy
(17:32):
for that. And guess what, eighty ninety percent of the
American public agrees with me on this, and yet on
social media because it was very left leaning on that issue.
You didn't have an accurate reflection. I think the Trump
team knows this. But the noise. Again, noise is not
a bad thing. Conflict is not a bad thing. The
(17:54):
best argument can win. But sometimes it appears that arguments
are closer than they actually are in the larger universe
when you actually look at it. Democrats, Republicans, and independents
all agree. Yeah, it's a bad thing if Ron gets
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Speaker 1 (19:31):
He's offended Greg that I use the word boobs, is Greg,
their producer, Greg uh So, I don't know what words
I could use instead. I don't think Tatas is gonna
make him happy. I don't think knockers is gonna make
(19:51):
him happy. Grand Titans. I don't know what like breast.
It sounds like I'm a real creepy Like I don't
even like using the word penis because it sounds so ridiculous.
But when you've got an entire political party that believes
that you can chop a penis off, I feel like
(20:13):
I have to say it, chop breast off. Boobs off hooters.
I don't know. You guys tell me, I don't want
to offend anyone. You guys tell me what the most
appropriate way to describe female anatomy above the waist is
above the waist, below the neck, above the rib cage,
like I'm I don't know. I think FCC. We had
(20:37):
the commissioner of the FCC on yesterday. I think the
fact that we have any language restriction on this show
at all, in my opinion, is ridiculous and honestly a
function of like nineteen forties America, right. And I don't
even curse that much. I think if my wife were
(20:57):
on air right now, she would say as a as
a person who uses curse words, I would put myself
probably in the bottom ten percent. Like I don't have
that salty of language in general. I try to avoid cursing.
I don't even do it that often. But the fact
that we have these restrictions in any way, I do
(21:20):
think that language sometimes can cut through the otherwise noise
and get noticed. Right Because eight, I'm still banned on
CNN for saying I only believe in two things the
first Amendment in Boobs, if I had just said I'm
a First Amendment absolutist that wouldn't have gone megaviral. Sometimes
(21:44):
the subtle way that you can alter and wouldn't have
made my case as well. But sometimes the subtle way
that you can alter language can have a substantial impact
in cutting through the noise and helping you to win
all arguments. So I do think it is very interesting
(22:06):
how this plays out, Greg because this is something, by
the way, that has come up for years. In general,
this is not gonna shock you. There are some people
out there that don't like me in fact, in fact
that don't like the way I talk. As I'm speaking
to you right now. Headline, Clay Travis rips elon Omar,
(22:27):
why doesn't she go back to Somaliya. Well, that's not
really exactly what I said. Elon Omar said that some
of you may have seen me on Sean Hannity talking
about this last night. I also said it on this show,
but it didn't get picked up here. Elon Omar said
that America was one of the worst countries in the world.
She said that, now, I don't think elon Omar actually
(22:51):
believes that, And in order to prove that she didn't
believe it, I pointed out that she was not born
in the United States. She was actually born in Somalia.
And so my argument is, if you have dual citizenship.
I don't. I'm only an American. But if I thought
(23:12):
America was one of the worst countries in the world,
and I had been born somewhere else, I would go
back to the other country that I was born in,
if I actually believed it. I don't think that's a
crazy perspective if I were. Let's say, let's say that
I was born in Switzerland and my name was This
(23:34):
is my brother in law. His last name's Blumquist. My
sister is now a last named Blumquist. Let's say that
my last name was Blumquist. I was Cleag Blumquist, and
I was born in Switzerland, and I thought that America
was one of the worst countries in the world. Do
you know what I would do. I would move back
to Switzerland. And I've made fun of Rosie O'Donnell, but
(24:00):
O'Donnell at least said if Trump wins, I'm leaving, and
then she went to Ireland. Now that's what I was
talking about with Sean Hannity last night. Many of you
are going to be listening on the same radio network
to Sean Hannity in a little bit. But I think
it's funny like Ireland got Rosy O'Donnell, Rosi O'Donnell. I
bet if you're Irish, would be like the seven hundred
(24:22):
and sixty eighth most famous American celebrity that you would
want to move to Ireland if you had to pick
a famous celebrity to move to Ireland. I don't think
the Irish people are like, boy, yes we won, we
got Rosie. I don't think the Irish people are like,
we don't even want Rosy o'donnald, Sidney Sweeney or Rosie o'donnald.
(24:44):
Who would you rather have in Ireland? Every man's like, well,
we'd rather have I don't have a great Irish accent,
but they would all pick Sidney Sweeney. But you would
go back if one. If you lived truly you thought
in one of the worst countries in the wor world,
the United States, and you had the ability to go
(25:04):
to a country that was better, you would go leave it.
Aside from the United States, if you lived in let's
just talk about in the country, because we can all
move from one state to another. If you lived in
a state and you really thought you lived in the
worst state in the United States, Pick whatever state you
(25:26):
want to be the worst. I am born and raised
in Tennessee. I happen to think it's one of the
best states. But if I thought my home state was awful,
I would move to another state if I thought that
the city that I lived in, assuming you have the
resources to be able to do it, which elon Omar would.
(25:46):
If you thought that you lived in a city that
was awful, what is the worst city in America that
we are not on in right now? I need to
avoid getting tarded feathered by picking the worst city in America.
I think I said the worst city in America, and
(26:06):
I bet we're number one in this city, and I
bet I'm never I think I said Gary, Indiana. I'm
sorry if we are number one in Gary, Indiana, I
take it back. Whatever city we're not on in is
the worst city in America. Clearly, if I thought that
I lived in the worst city in America, I would
move Like this is not They're all like that's one
(26:29):
headline right second headline. OutKick co founder tells representative elon
Omar to go back to Somalia and Hannity Interview, that's
the Independent. So there's all these headlines. People are like, oh,
go back to your No. I would say that to anybody.
(26:51):
If you hate the country that you're in and you
can leave, if you hate the state that you're in
and you can leave, If you hate the city that
you're in and you can leave, you should leave. A
lot of you are listening to me right now. You
used to live in California, and now you live in Tennessee,
or Texas or Florida. You moved because you didn't like
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what you saw in the place that you were living.
A ton of you. Buck himself moved Lifelong, New York City,
born and raised, got married, and decided to move to
Florida because he didn't like the choices that were being
made in New York City. The great thing about the
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United States is you can move to a new city
or state. But if you had the luxury, it is
a luxury to have multiple passports, which I presume elon
Omar does. I would think she's still a resident of
Somalias and she was born there. That is, I assume
she is still a citizen in some way. Then she
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should go back to Somalia. If she thinks America sucks,
if she thinks she lives in one of the worst
places in the world, which is what she said, then
she should live in a better place in the world. Like,
how is that remotely controversial? And so a lot of
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this stuff sometimes, So go back to Somalia. Yeah, do
I know that that's gonna pop and cut through? Yeah,
But I would say go back to Switzerland, go back
to Colombia, go back to Japan. If you think it
sucks here and you are a citizen of multiple countries,
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you should leave. If you truly believe this is one
of the worst countries in the world and you have
an option to live in a better one, you should leave. Now.
The point on this is she's not actually leaving, which
means she knows the argument she's making is be yes.
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But sometimes you have to be provocative and cut directly
to the essence of an argument to point out how
illegitimate and dishonest the argument is. Because we live in
an era and a world where totally dishonest arguments are
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made every day. We're talking about Iran. About seventy percent
of Republicans, most of whom voted for Trump believe that
we should attack Iran and end, if necessary, their nuclear
weapons capabilities forever. Some people disagree. Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green.
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I don't think those people want worse things for America.
I don't think their argument is rooted in wanting something
different than I want. I think they have a good
faith argument that they're concerned that we will get drawn
into another Iraq or another Afghanistan, and that if we attack.
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I can probably make their argument as well or better
than they can, that that is going to ultimately work,
not to the benefit of the United States. I happen
to disagree. I don't think their intent in making the
arguments that they are making is to actually make America worse. Good, reasonable,
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rational people can disagree on issues. How many of y'all
are married. My wife probably disagrees with me on things
more than any of you do on a daily basis.
I've been married for twenty plus years. If you are
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a man listening to me for twenty plus years and
your wife has agreed with everything that you have said
or done in those twenty plus years, guess what. You're
a damn liar. There isn't a single one of you
out there that can even have uniformity of agreement on
everything inside of your own house. That's why men have
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man caves. That's why we vanish, That's why men spend
so much time in the bathroom. We're just looking for
some place, no matter how small it is, where we
can't be disagreed with. This is the whole purpose of
the band cave. Every one of you does it, Like
why the men spend so much time in garages because
women usually aren't there, Like he just got he put
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a there. Guys right now listening to me, you barely
even have a garage. You can't even fit a car
in there. Somehow you got a refrigerator full of beer
in there. Your car hasn't run for twenty years. You
got the hood up. It's just to escape. So it's
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not a surprise to me that if you can't even
agree on everything with your wife. And by the way,
I'm not saying a husband's always right, by the way,
God forbid, because my wife might be listening, she is
also saying the same thing when she's out with her girlfriends.
Do you know what my moron husband did inevitably all
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the time, So why would you expect that seventy seven
million people who voted for Donald Trump are going to
agree on everything. You shouldn't should have real arguments. Sometimes
it's gonna end up on the right side, sometimes gonna
be on the wrong side. There's nothing wrong with being
in the minority on an argument. Sometimes people make really
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bad choices. This nation made an awful choice during COVID.
Buck and I were in the minority when we said, yeah,
we don't think we should shut down schools. Yeah. I
don't like the idea that we're trying to distinguish between
essential and non essential businesses, because if you own a business,
every business is essential because it's paying for people to
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be able to have their lives, make their mortgage payments.
I don't think people should be told, hey, you're not
allowed to go on a beach and get on a
paddle board, and if you do it, the governor of
California is going to arrest you. Those were things that
were wrong. Maybe we shouldn't have put up crime tape
around playgrounds. Maybe we shouldn't have taken rims off basketball
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courts outside. Maybe we shouldn't have told people go sit
on the couch and watch Netflix and eat Cheetos and
expected that everybody wasn't going to end up super fat
and way more unhealthy than they ever would have been
if they had just gotten COVID and dealt with So
sometimes being in the minority of an argument is good
because the minor argument can be the right one. That's
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why the First Amendment works because over time you can
convince people, hey, I'm right on this, even if most
people when you initially start making the argument may not
agree with you. When you get this iron situation, the
fact that they're trying to say, oh, everybody in Trump's
base doesn't agree, well, of course not. You and your
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wife can't even agree on everything inside of your house,
why would you expect seventy seven million voters outside of
the house to agree on everything. It's good. Conflict is
good because in theory, the entire basis of the United
States is the more arguments we make, the better result
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we end up with. The best argument over time is
going to win. That's why Trump, I think, has gone
from sixty four million roughly votes in twenty sixteen to
seventy seven million in twenty twenty four because the more
time people spent listening to his arguments, the more they
came to say, you know what, this guy is actually
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getting to the right place more often than not. Now,
is he a bull in a china shop on the way? Yeah?
And sometimes does he make a bigger mess than he
needs to getting to the right result one billion percent,
But that doesn't mean he's wrong. And I think he's
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Lots of great feedback from you guys. We're gonna have
some fun in the third hour. Appreciate all the talkbacks.
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When we come back at the top of the next hour,
we're gonna get head down to Nashville, where the Attorney
General of Tennessee, Jonathan Scurmetti, who argued the case that
was decided today on gender care, saying that you can't
chop off a kid's boobs or their penis because they
happen to think they're the wrong gender when they're fourteen
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or fifteen years old. In the state of Tennessee, that's allowed.
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