October 9, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of global diplomacy, U.S. politics, and cultural commentary. The hour opens with analysis of President Donald Trump’s latest cabinet meeting and his bold claim of negotiating peace in eight major conflicts worldwide, including Armenia-Azerbaijan, Congo-Rwanda, Iran-Israel, India-Pakistan, Cambodia-Thailand, Serbia-Kosovo, and Ethiopia-Egypt. Clay and Buck spotlight Trump’s efforts to end the Israel-Hamas war, secure hostage releases, and pivot toward resolving the Russia-Ukraine conflict, which remains stalled due to Vladimir Putin’s territorial ambitions and disregard for casualties. The hosts debate whether Trump’s peace initiatives could merit a Nobel Peace Prize, contrasting his tangible achievements with past awards given for far less.
The conversation shifts to the government shutdown, with Trump vowing permanent cuts to Democrat-backed programs. Senator Tommy Tuberville joins the show to discuss GOP strategy during the shutdown, the importance of protecting farmers and military funding, and his reaction to Trump’s Middle East breakthrough. Tuberville also weighs in on rumors that sports media personality Paul Finebaum may run for Senate in Alabama, emphasizing the need for conservative credentials and grassroots campaigning. The senator shares candid thoughts on ESPN’s leftward shift, political polarization, and his own experience being targeted by federal agencies.
Cultural topics add levity to the hour, including Trump’s announcement restoring Columbus Day, sparking discussion of historical revisionism and the Sopranos’ iconic Columbus episode. Clay and Buck critique the left’s statue-toppling frenzy as “mass psychosis” and explore how platforms like X (formerly Twitter) under Elon Musk have disrupted legacy media narratives, creating space for authentic public opinion. The hour also features humorous listener talkbacks about Buck’s “Polish sausage” anecdote and a lighthearted Polish joke, blending serious geopolitical analysis with trademark Clay & Buck humor.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now,
and it is, in fact Clay and Buck today for
the first time in almost two weeks. So we got
that going for us, which is nice.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And let's uh came the road for how many days
in a row? Now, did you go home from Taiwan?
I had two days at home, but I really want
to be home again.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I've I've even had some interesting opportunities to travel later
this month play, and I'm just I just want to
be home. I'm a homebody in general, and I want
to be with Kerrie and Speed and Ginger Spice and
that's the plan. But yeah, Taiwan twelve hour time difference
really takes a while to get back on schedule with that.
You you just went from Central time to well actually
(00:44):
still Central time right at the Panhandle or ish manandle.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Of Central time.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I did drive into the Eastern time zone for the
Miami Florida State game, which is Tallahassees, just barely in
the Eastern time zone. But it was pretty easy recovery, yep.
So there you yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Can, you can handle it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
After East Coast time You're like, oh, okay, yeah, not
not not too not too, taxic.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's good news.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, people kept asking me about uh, mister
mister fine Baum. Yes, and I saw people and they
said they were asking me questions about this. You'll have
to explain this to everyone later on in the show,
because I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We got Tommy tumperble on at the bottom the hour.
We're probably not ask him about it. But yeah, Paul Finebaum,
it's potentially going to be running for the Senate from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So uh yeah, it's been a big story and people
kept asking me. I'm like, yeah, I celebrate fine Baum's
whole career, his whole catalog, full catalog of of football things.
So we have some updates here from the cabinet meeting
that just happened. So let's let's dive into some of
that because that's the latest from Trump. I think this
(01:47):
is really interesting, Clay, because I wanted to do a
little research on this on my own. Last night, Trump
spoke about not only is he taking a taking a
bow and yeah, I think if you help negotiate the
end of carnage that is taking human lives and maiming people,
and you know, war is a terrible thing. It truly
is a terrible thing. Sometimes a necessary thing, but it
is still a terrible thing. I think taking a bow
(02:10):
is fine, and I think that Trump deserves that and
then some. But it's not just on on Israel and
the end of this conflict with Gaza. This is caught
thirty three. He lays out the whole, He gives you
the whole number.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You remember we settled seven. This is number eight. We
settled seven wars or major conflicts, but wars, and this
is number eight. And the one that I thought would
be maybe the quickness to all would be Russia Ukraine,
and I think that's going to happen too. But in
the meantime, they're losing about seven thousand people a week,
and that seems pretty bad. They're losing mostly soldiers, young soldiers.
(02:47):
They go out to war and they getting killed, and well,
it doesn't affect us in a lot of ways. We've
got a big ocean in between. You don't want to
see that happen. It was a big miss. That war
should never happened. It would have never happened if I
were president.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Trump doesn't want wars, which is a very good premise
to star wars. So Clay can I can I give
you the list here and you can. Yeah, the list
of conflicts that Trump was involved in bringing to either
a ceasefire or some kind of an agreement to end
the fighting. We have Armenia and Azerbaijan, two former Soviet republics.
(03:27):
Trump signed a peace agreement between them on the eighth
of August. That war been going on for decades and
the leaders of both countries were very much thankful to
Trump for helping to negotiate this one democratic republic of
the Congo and Rwanda.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That was June.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Back in June of this year, a ceasefire announced on
June twenty third between Iran and Israel after the bombing
of the nuclear sites. India and Pakistan on a border dispute.
Cambodia and Thailand, they had a ceasefire July twenty eighth.
(04:06):
They fought for five days but people were dying. And
then from the first administration, I think Clay he adds
oh Serbia and Kosovo, he helped get an agreement with them,
and I think he did something.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Ethiopia and Egypt. Trump dealt with a dispute between them
over a hydro power dam. So it was more of
a conflict than it was a war. But that is
the list. That is quite a world tour that he
has put together.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, and again it goes to the point that I had,
which is the criticism of Trump that would actually it's
not a good criticism in my opinion, But the one
that you could make is he's too focused on bringing
peace to the world, and how does that actually impact
America in any kind of significant way. I'm not saying
(04:57):
I sign off on it, but that's the criticism of Trump.
He's too focused on world peace and many of these
conflicts don't directly involve the United States, So why is
the president spending his time on them? That is the
criticism you could levy. It's the exact opposite criticism they
spend a decade on Trump, which is he's a modern
(05:17):
day Hitler World War Iree is going to ensue. Let
me ask you this Buck. The clip you played I
think is interesting because I think Trump thought that he
would be able to solve Ukraine and Russia faster than
he has. I think he would say that if he
came on with us, and I think he thought that
(05:39):
because he felt as if he had a relationship with
Putin that he could use to bring peace there, and again,
unlike in Israel in the Middle East, where you have,
let's be fair and intractable in many ways, conflict between
Jewish and Muslim religious faiths, not to mention the Christian
(06:01):
component rolled in as well. Russia and Ukraine is basically
a civil war.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I understand the lines of the battle and everything else,
but the Russian and Ukrainian people historically have much in
common and there doesn't seem to be any real gain
to speak of that's being fought over now. I think
he's frustrated over the fact that he can't get peace there.
And what does it say about that conflict that a
(06:30):
true religious war is getting peace before a border dispute
between two historical, historically connected people.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, the reason that there's not a ceasefire in Russia
Ukraine I think is pretty straightforward, unfortunately, and it's that
Putin thinks that he's winning and will keep taking territory
with the status quo. I mean that he's going to
get more and more. So why stop in his mind,
because the casualties, the humanitarian cost, he is absolutely to
pay that price on both sides. Something that is particularly
(07:04):
jarring about Putin is he certainly is not losing any
sleep at night about Ukrainian casualties. He's not losing any
sleep about Russian casualties either. Yeah, this is unfortunately the
mindset that he operates with. So that means that that
conflict is likely to continue on unless there's a real
change in that. Trump has at least started to push
(07:24):
in that direction publicly. If Putin starts to feel like
they are losing some territory inside of Ukraine, maybe then
there'd be more of a willingness. But that's a tough
ask for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How much do you think this is cultural in that
the way Russia defines itself in the modern era from
a positive perspective is by the sacrifice that the country
was willing to make during World War Two. And so
if you go back in time historically Russia, obviously the
collapse of communism and the Cold War that they lost,
(07:58):
it's not something that is a point of pride in
that country. But how much of the willingness of Russians
to accept frankly, huge, huge, casualty numbers is a function
of that patriotic connection to the past, where basically the
entire country.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Giving up the flower of youth is seen as.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
One of the true bravest moments and most sterling moments
in all of Russian history.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, this is how Russians fight wars, just with throwing
manpower at it. They've they've generally had. They had really weak,
speaking of generally, generals in World War Two because of
the Soviet Purge, so they had a lot of a
lot of problems with that. Now some of the people
(08:47):
talk about, like General Zukov, some of the generals in
Russian past have have been talented, but they generally throw
a lot of bodies.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
At the problem.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And that's what they're doing in Ukraine as well. So yeah,
I don't know how Trump, that's the big one that
is on the list next. And to bring this back
to Trump, the peacemaker, if he can, I would say this.
Then people might already feel that way, and that's fine.
They might be saying. If he doesn't get the Nobel
Peace Prize for this deal, it's effectively a meaningless award anyway,
because it's just some partisan tool of the global elites.
(09:19):
I think that's probably already true. But if he were
to end the rush of Ukraine War two and it
was clear that he had a central role in that,
and after this and didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Then it's a total joke.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, maybe it's already there, but it definitely would be
a total joke at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Somebody just texted me or email me that once Obama
got the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing, it had become
a participation trophy in many ways as opposed.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
To a reward or an award for what you actually accomplished.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I do wonder if peace in the Middle East, if
he suddenly is able to pivot in many ways directly
to Ukraine Russia. I still don't understand how this gets
resolved in meaning Ukraine Russia, because to your point, Putin
basically knows that long term he has the ability to
(10:13):
lean on Ukraine, and we still don't know exactly where
that line is where if he gets this amount of territory,
he's satisfied. And it just feels kind of intractable at
this point to me, because if Trump can't get it
solved negotiation wise, to your point, it seems quite clear
that Vladimir Putin just.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Will not end this war. So how do you in
any way ended.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
When Putin just refuses, well, see this is what I
meant by he doesn't leave lose sleep at night over
the casualties. There's no moral or humanitarian imperative that is
at work with Vladimir Putin at all.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
This.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's pure force. I think the Israelis, I think the
IDF for a while have just wanted Look, we're willing
to stop. We don't want to have to keep doing this,
but we have to know that they're going to stop.
On the other side, you know, you have.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That with this, and we have to get the hostages,
which is what the HOSS has refused to release them particulately.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I know that we're very pleased, as of course
we should be. I mean people I know people who
are teering up at the news about the hostages going
that some of the hostages are going home. But I
just can't I can't forget that a lot of hostages
are not going home alive. Yes, and that is an
active decision that was made. They had civilians in custody
(11:35):
and they let them die or they killed them one
or the other, I mean, which is the same thing.
They're in your custody, so they killed civilians that they
were holding as hostages. So the moral calculations here should
be very clear to to everybody about who the good
guys are, who the bad guys are. But I do
think that Trump now turning his there's going to be
(11:56):
some focus on this, of course, but turning his attention
to rush Ukraine issue. It has to be what are
the incentives for Putin to stop? Yes, you have to
change incentives with him. He is a It is like
dealing with a rattlesnake. You cannot say, hey, don't bite me.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That's mean.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It has to be you back off or I'm gonna
take your head.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Which I think Trump gets because Trump's new focus has
been let's keep Russia from being able to sell their
oil through India. We're going to put a penalty on India.
And he's given Ukraine the ability in theory to actually
threaten Russia in a way with armaments and weaponry that
has not occurred so far. The risk there, obviously is
(12:41):
you accelerate the war as opposed to decelerating it. So
but I think you're right. I mean Putin has to
fear something, and ultimately I think that's what Trump has
come to realize that otherwise there is no way to
actually end this war. We'll take some of your calls,
some of your talkbacks much less serious. Buck, get your pen.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. Let's have some fun. We're about to be
joined by Tommy Tubberville. But I jumped in this morning
and I'm doing my prep and I see a bevy
of awesome, awesome Buck talkbacks relating to what may be
(14:58):
called the La fere Polish sausage. Oh my god, look
the Polish sauage is delicious.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I don't know what to tell you. They taste great.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Uh that this is Cord BB. He's got a question
fire away.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Messages for Clay Claik Can you apply on how Bucks
sets his freshman year roommate introduced him to.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
This Polish sausage last week.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Thanks, all right, let's just that it's cool. He's throwing
gasoline onto the fire there, buddy, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Here is dog in Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
He's also got some Polish sausage feedback.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Hey, Buck Doug from Louisville, Kentucky. Gotta tell you, I'm
interested in the story of your introduction to the Polish
sausage from your friend. Feel like there's a story there,
you know. I mean, Clay's not afraid to tell us,
you know, intimate details of his experiences, and you know,
I'd like to know more. I'm sure many of us would.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When did you recognize who was the first person to
recognize he's the phrasing on your Polish Our entire, our
entire radio team in real time laughing at me in
the studio, My roommate from will Met, Okay, which I've
never been to.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And and he found out that I had never tried
Polish sausage.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So he's be able to tell the story his parents.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This is a real thing. His parents sent a big
box of Polish Polish sausage to us at Amherst, and
so we were all sitting around this camp.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
This was I'm at band camp.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So the whole staff, I don't I don't know I
would have kept a straight face when when this when this.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Store, they didn't keep a straight face, Clase, So you're
not alone there. Neither could I. But now the audience
is all, can we celebrate Trump's world peace here? Please?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
All right, we can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We could some Polish sausages just to have a really
big festive experience.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We'll grab a clip.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
By the way, President Trump has said that Columbus Day
is back, and all the Italian people are selling rating
still won to buck. The best of all the Sopranos
in terms of just pure entertainment was when they got
fired up over the banning of Columbus Day.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You remember that sopranos.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Columbus was a hero in his house. Yeah, of course,
of course I remember that. Something else. By the way,
I didn't get to tell you. I made a trip
through I had some conversations with friends in the Pentagon
Clay when I was in DC yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The day before.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I can't remember now, And you look around. You know
what it says on the on the e ring level
of the Pentagon and all these offices. Department of War,
it already changed it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So you're talking about the Apartment of War to win
like the nineteen forties.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yes, I mean through it through.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
World War Two. It was the world of the War Department.
I guess they changed it part of them, maybe the
National Security Act in the nineteen forty eight or something.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, I never really thought about it much, but as
Secretary of War, obviously during the Civil War and everything
else was was commonplace.
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All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. You know, Clay,
I was in DC and it was during the government shutdown,
and it was lovely. The streets are empty, the highways
are clear, I could get everywhere. It was the DC
that I wish I could always have lived in, where
you just get all the upside but not the overcrowding.
(19:14):
So it was really nice. Trump spoke about the shutdown
in this cabinet meeting just now, right when we came
on air. Here's what he said about it. This has
cut thirty five hit.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
It, and we'll be making cuts that we'll be permanent,
and we're only going to cut Democrat programs I hate
to tell I guess that makes sense, but we're only
cutting Democrat programs. But we're going to start that, and
we have Russell. We can talk to you about it
if he wants to. But we'll be cutting some very
(19:43):
popular Democrat programs that aren't popular with Republicans. Factly because
that's the way it works. They wanted to do this,
so we'll give a little taste of their own medicine.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Trump is enjoying the shutdowns so far, Clay. He is
not backing down an inch. Neither are the well, most
of the Republican centers. We had Senator Ron Johnson on someone,
do you guys, do we have Senator Tuberville right now?
All right, Senator Truberville, We've got a lot to talk
to you about. Thanks for joining us here. I'll actually
start just with the shutdown. Is the Republican caucus? Is
everyone standing strong on this one? Anybody getting the weak,
(20:16):
getting weak in the knees. You gotta let us know
we can't have that stuff. No caving allowed.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, I've seen a couple of a couple of soft
movements here lately from Republicans, but I think there's more
on the side of Democrats. I think the polling is
going against them, but we just got a hold strong, guys.
If we don't hold strong, in which we normally don't
on the Republican side, somebody starts the cave, and then
then we're going to be in for a one point
(20:43):
five trillion dollars more that American taxpayers are going to
unlose because of the corrupt Democrats and socials party trying
to spend everything they send up here.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Do you get the sense, because I don't. I've been
on the road. I was just down in Florida. I've
been traveling all fall, but since the shutdown started, no
one asked me about it. And I understand that it's
a real focus in Washington, d C. But I don't
get the sense that Democrats are actually creating some form
of huge uproar over the government being shut down. And
(21:17):
now we've got President Trump trying to travel to the
Middle East and potentially bringing peace there.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Story is far more important and attention gathering right now
than anything relating to the shutdown. I'm curious what you
hear when you are on the road and people talk
to you about things impacting their lives.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Well, they I hear more about tariffs than I do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's because of the.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Farmers, and you know they're struggling, and we've got to
protect our farmers. We got to protect our military and
law enforcement during this shut down. But you know, the Democrats,
they have nothing to hang their hand on, and so
now they've got something they can Hey, you know, we
can fight back here. There's something some people might agree
with us, because nothing else. Very few Americans agree with
(22:02):
the Democratic Party on anything that they've done or try
to do, or anything that they believe in. So we
just got to hold on. We just got to keep pushing,
get President Trump and Scott Bessett and the people over
in the administration and opportunity to clean out the fat
of this bloated government of three million government employees. My gosh,
(22:22):
I mean, we got people that we don't even know
get a paycheck, and so at the end of the day,
we've got to clean this mess up.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Start Tubberville. It's absolutely a day of some celebration from
the Trump side of things. Given the ceasefire. I wanted
to just get your reaction to what this president seems
to have accomplished and the satisfaction that I'm sure he
and many of us get from seeing even people who
never give Trump anything, never give him the benefit of
(22:54):
the doubt, never give him a fair shot. They're even
having to say, this is a pretty big deal that
he has negotiated between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Yeah, this is huge, and we got to get the
hostages out. We got to get out of this mess.
Mike Huckabe, the ambassador Marco Rubio went off all these
They have been working their tails off trying to get
something done there and also in Ukraine and Russia. So
hopefully this works out as a twenty point plan. First
of all, if we can get the hostages out, I
(23:26):
mean President Trump has done his job, because that is
our main goal is get these people loose, get them
out of these tunnels, these caves, give them some food,
get them back to society. This group that we're fighting,
this Islamic terrorism that we're fighting within a moss. They
are absolutely trying to destroy that part of the country.
(23:50):
And by the way, they're coming to a theater near us,
and we better watch out.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We're talking to Senator Tommy Tubervill. He's the next governor
of Alabama. I know you're in the midst of your
governor's campaign while also being a senator. I'm sure you saw.
I did a sit down with Paul Feinbaum, a guy
you've known from college football, I imagine for a long
time in the state of Alabama. He hasn't officially announced,
(24:14):
but what's your reaction to what kind of candidate Paul
Feinbaum might be if he ran in the primary to
potentially be a senator from Alabama?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What do you know about him? What do you think
about the idea?
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Yeah, I've been friends with Paul for thirty years and
even when I was an assistant coach. He's made a
name for hisself. He's got one hundred percent name he
in Alabama. I tell him he's also made ever by
mad in Alabama at one time, because but that was
his job, you know, making people, you know, a conversation
about sports. Now, he's never been in politics, but neither
(24:47):
had I. He asked me what I thought. I said, well,
you know, if you're going to get into this and
I'm not supporting anybody, that's not my job. I've talked
to everybody this running from my position, and I said,
you know, you've got to get out there and sell yourself,
not as a media person, but as somebody's going to
represent the people of Alabama in this country. So I
(25:09):
heard your interview, I've talked to him. I think he's
really really looking into it, and I think that he's
about to have it with a lot of things that
have gone on in his previous life professionally, and you know,
he's an American, but he's got to get out and
sell the point and the fact of am I Trump.
He's got to be a Trump guy in Alabama. He's
got to be conservative, and he's got to show and
(25:32):
tell people and convince people that that's what he's going
to do.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You worked in sports as a head coach for a
long time, and by the way, you beat Alabama six
years in a row as an Auburn coach and got
elected in the state of Alabama. So that in and
of itself, and you're not going to be the governor
now in a state where Alabama is the majority fan base.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Auburn's got a great fan base. Two. Paul's for that
fed up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think I'm you can kind of read it in
that conversation with Disney and ESPN siding that they're going
to go full left wing. You've been doing sports a
long time. Uh, would you ever believe that Disney and
ESPN were going to turn ESPN into another arm of MSNBC.
Would you ever believe that could be possible in the
world of sports.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
No, never, could have. Never would have believed it or
wanted to believe it. And I just can't believe.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That that an entity that big, that touches so many people,
that has really lived off the American people and true.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Patriotism, would go that direction. You know, I worked with
Mike Patrick one year, is his color guy, and now
well he was the play by play guy in his
last year for ESPN and ABC, And Uh, I've never
seen such far left groups in my life. I mean,
(26:53):
it was just it was just they were that's when
Trump first got elected and they it was just a
fight from the start to the finish. When you're around
a lot of those people that couldn't believe that I
was a Trump supporter. So at the end of the day,
you've got different factions in our country. The problem that
I'm having today is how much does the Democratic Party
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really love this country? Yes, so they love our constitution.
You know, we all have different opinions. But my god, folks,
we look what they did. I'm in the elite eight
I was. I had my phone's tapped by the FBI
under the Department of Justice, a city United States Senator.
You've got to be kidding me. So it is, you know,
(27:36):
I just don't understand it. I really don't of the
mindset of the people that are are trying, and I
think it's their way of life. Is they want to
change everything that we're doing and go to another type
of country that We're not going to allow that to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You've known Paul Feinbaum, you said for thirty years. I
understand that you are not going to endorse. This is
your seat that's going to be up for grabs. Based
on your conversations, do you think he's going to run
or do you think he's not going to run.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I think it's more than he is than he's not.
Now again, this is a week or so ago. The
last time I talked to him, and I said, Paul,
you got to do your due diligence. You got to
go out. You's got to start making phone calls. You've
got to talk to people. Don't take my word for it.
I'm one vote and I got an opinion. But you
have to go and talk to people that and try
(28:30):
to get two million people to vote for you. And
there's a lot of convention you're going to have to do.
But I told the same thing to Steve Marshall, the
Attorney General, the same thing to Barry Moore, who's in Congress.
It's running for this seat. You have got to tell
them what you stand for, and people got to believe that.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You've got to be convincing. I said.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I did that for a year and a half when
I was a football coach, and I said, I'm gona
run Percentate. I went to every little town, every meeting,
every farm meeting, and told him, listen, I'm running, and
this is what I believe in. Forget about coaching, just
this is what I believe in. And thank goodness, I
don't think they elected me as coach. They elected me
for my beliefs and my love for the country.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Senator Tuberville, always appreciate you making the time for us
here on Clan Buck.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
All right, guys, thank you, God bless and.
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Speaker 2 (30:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I believe it's Columbus Day.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It has been attacked as Indigenous People's Day. We mentioned
this earlier on The Sopranos. For those of you who watched,
there was an episode where Tony wanted to defend Christopher Columbus.
Let's have a little fun, and here's that clip.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
He discovered America is what he did. He was a
brave at Tian explorer and this house.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Christopher Columbus is a hero and a story.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But Donald Trump agrees Buck. This just happened in the
White House, cut thirty six. I believe Trump announcing that
Columbus Day is still Columbus Day.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
In other words, we're calling it Columbus Day.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
That was the press that broke out in the clause
that I've never seen that happened before the press actually
broke out in applause, Good Columbus Day, We're back, Columbus Day.
We're back Italians, and we loved the Italians.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
We loved the Italians and the Polish and many others.
Some people are saying I would just say, Clay, I
guess we're just not concerned anymore with what Columbus's stance
on trans writes and climate change was.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's a little little I feel a little.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Microaggression here, a little triggered perhaps, where was Columbus on
these key issues.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It is interesting, isn't it that all of the tear
down the statue people have just suddenly vanished. There's almost
no discussion.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
About it at all.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I haven't when's the last time you saw someone try
to tear down it. It was all pure mass formation,
it was. It was mass psychosis.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It was the topic from my book coming out in January,
manufacturing delusion. That's what it was. So that is you
like that? That was cool, like the other side of
the pillow. Yeah, that's that's the truth of it, though, Clay.
It's just people were caught up in their own rage
(32:38):
and nonsense because pulling down the statues and all the
stuff that they were saying. Remember, it got to the
point where they were pulling down Abraham Lincoln statues. It
just didn't even matter anymore. They just wanted to what
is Michael Caine saying badman. He's like, some men just
won't to see the world burn, you know. He just
kind of says that, and they just wanted to see
the world burn.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's what it was. I don't even know if I
can this joke from a Polish man. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, you're Klay Travis. People still say to me,
They're like, did he really say this?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I'm supposed to be like your keeper, you know, like
I'm supposed to keep you from getting outside the bars
of the cage and going wild on the visitors.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
This is this is a polish man.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
But my father in law, Larry Kornacki, who passed last year,
also a polish Man. He would love this joke, so
I'm gonna tell it in his honor. As a polish man,
I can tell this joke. This is not me. This
is the Polish man Michael, whose last name I can't
even pronounce. What does a polish man This is a
little this is a double entendre buck, but it's a
(33:44):
little anyway. What does a polish man give his wife
on their wedding night? That is long and hard his
last name? That's pretty good that's pretty good, very much
border line, but I think good. So if you're upset,
that is uh, Michael g whose last name I cannot read,
(34:06):
and you can steal that one, and you can.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm gonna be reading I'm gonna be reading emails all
weekend from our listener ethel who is going to be
telling me that you need a timeout, sir, that you
have you have to be put in the corner, sir.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I think that I think that was within the bounds.
I think that was within the bounds.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I did pause for a minute, which maybe means
it's not within bounds. We also have this you were
talking about the impact. I mean, I do think this
ties in with the statue thing we have CNN. This
is Michael Inton basically pointing out something that I do
think it's worth re addressing on a rate. Is this
(34:46):
the ex conversation the top of the next how let's.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Say it is for the top of it, because we've
only got about a minute here, so we can tee
this up a bit. The the change in the media
ecosystem is so powerful right now, Uh that what had
happened was the Democrats play the left were able to
make and they were able to enforce arguments on the
public that they could not subject to scrutiny, but they
(35:13):
just had the raw power to through straight really information warfare,
flood the zone and convince enough people that this is
what it has to be, and that now has been shattered.
It's not gone, but it is a fraction of what
it used to be. And I think that this ties
(35:36):
into X. This ties into the change in the change
in the culture that we see now. And I also
think that people are increasingly in positions where they realize
we need to have our own platforms and have our
own stuff too, So that's all to the good.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I also think it is showing us how astro turf
much of the arguments on the left really were in
terms of whether they reflected the reality of opinion or
normal people. I think that X under Elon is much
more of a reflection of honest public opinion as opposed
(36:16):
to a Silicon Valley San Francisco era view of the world.
But we'll give you some data on that when we
come back. In the meantime, Buck is going to be
sampling Polish sausages during the commercial break, and we will
have a lot more fun for all of you in
the third hour of the program, including I don't know
(36:38):
how much you talked about this yesterday, Buck, because I
can't remember exactly what time this came out. It wasn't
climate changed. It was a crazy left wing arsonist that
tried to burn down la Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
By the way,
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now,
and it is, in fact Clay and Buck today for
the first time in almost two weeks. So we got
that going for us, which is nice.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And let's uh came the road for how many days
in a row? Now, did you go home from Taiwan?
I had two days at home, but I really want
to be home again.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I've I've even had some interesting opportunities to travel later
this month play, and I'm just I just want to
be home. I'm a homebody in general, and I want
to be with Kerrie and Speed and Ginger Spice and
that's the plan. But yeah, Taiwan twelve hour time difference
really takes a while to get back on schedule with that.
You you just went from Central time to well actually
(00:44):
still Central time right at the Panhandle or ish manandle.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Of Central time.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I did drive into the Eastern time zone for the
Miami Florida State game, which is Tallahassees, just barely in
the Eastern time zone. But it was pretty easy recovery, yep.
So there you yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Can, you can handle it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
After East Coast time You're like, oh, okay, yeah, not
not not too not too, taxic.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's good news.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, people kept asking me about uh, mister
mister fine Baum. Yes, and I saw people and they
said they were asking me questions about this. You'll have
to explain this to everyone later on in the show,
because I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
We got Tommy tumperble on at the bottom the hour.
We're probably not ask him about it. But yeah, Paul Finebaum,
it's potentially going to be running for the Senate from Alabama.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So uh yeah, it's been a big story and people
kept asking me. I'm like, yeah, I celebrate fine Baum's
whole career, his whole catalog, full catalog of of football things.
So we have some updates here from the cabinet meeting
that just happened. So let's let's dive into some of
that because that's the latest from Trump. I think this
(01:47):
is really interesting, Clay, because I wanted to do a
little research on this on my own. Last night, Trump
spoke about not only is he taking a taking a
bow and yeah, I think if you help negotiate the
end of carnage that is taking human lives and maiming people,
and you know, war is a terrible thing. It truly
is a terrible thing. Sometimes a necessary thing, but it
is still a terrible thing. I think taking a bow
(02:10):
is fine, and I think that Trump deserves that and
then some. But it's not just on on Israel and
the end of this conflict with Gaza. This is caught
thirty three. He lays out the whole, He gives you
the whole number.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You remember we settled seven. This is number eight. We
settled seven wars or major conflicts, but wars, and this
is number eight. And the one that I thought would
be maybe the quickness to all would be Russia Ukraine,
and I think that's going to happen too. But in
the meantime, they're losing about seven thousand people a week,
and that seems pretty bad. They're losing mostly soldiers, young soldiers.
(02:47):
They go out to war and they getting killed, and well,
it doesn't affect us in a lot of ways. We've
got a big ocean in between. You don't want to
see that happen. It was a big miss. That war
should never happened. It would have never happened if I
were president.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Trump doesn't want wars, which is a very good premise
to star wars. So Clay can I can I give
you the list here and you can. Yeah, the list
of conflicts that Trump was involved in bringing to either
a ceasefire or some kind of an agreement to end
the fighting. We have Armenia and Azerbaijan, two former Soviet republics.
(03:27):
Trump signed a peace agreement between them on the eighth
of August. That war been going on for decades and
the leaders of both countries were very much thankful to
Trump for helping to negotiate this one democratic republic of
the Congo and Rwanda.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That was June.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Back in June of this year, a ceasefire announced on
June twenty third between Iran and Israel after the bombing
of the nuclear sites. India and Pakistan on a border dispute.
Cambodia and Thailand, they had a ceasefire July twenty eighth.
(04:06):
They fought for five days but people were dying. And
then from the first administration, I think Clay he adds
oh Serbia and Kosovo, he helped get an agreement with them,
and I think he did something.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Ethiopia and Egypt. Trump dealt with a dispute between them
over a hydro power dam. So it was more of
a conflict than it was a war. But that is
the list. That is quite a world tour that he
has put together.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, and again it goes to the point that I had,
which is the criticism of Trump that would actually it's
not a good criticism in my opinion, But the one
that you could make is he's too focused on bringing
peace to the world, and how does that actually impact
America in any kind of significant way. I'm not saying
(04:57):
I sign off on it, but that's the criticism of Trump.
He's too focused on world peace and many of these
conflicts don't directly involve the United States, So why is
the president spending his time on them? That is the
criticism you could levy. It's the exact opposite criticism they
spend a decade on Trump, which is he's a modern
(05:17):
day Hitler World War Iree is going to ensue. Let
me ask you this Buck. The clip you played I
think is interesting because I think Trump thought that he
would be able to solve Ukraine and Russia faster than
he has. I think he would say that if he
came on with us, and I think he thought that
(05:39):
because he felt as if he had a relationship with
Putin that he could use to bring peace there, and again,
unlike in Israel in the Middle East, where you have,
let's be fair and intractable in many ways, conflict between
Jewish and Muslim religious faiths, not to mention the Christian
(06:01):
component rolled in as well. Russia and Ukraine is basically
a civil war.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I understand the lines of the battle and everything else,
but the Russian and Ukrainian people historically have much in
common and there doesn't seem to be any real gain
to speak of that's being fought over now. I think
he's frustrated over the fact that he can't get peace there.
And what does it say about that conflict that a
(06:30):
true religious war is getting peace before a border dispute
between two historical, historically connected people.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, the reason that there's not a ceasefire in Russia
Ukraine I think is pretty straightforward, unfortunately, and it's that
Putin thinks that he's winning and will keep taking territory
with the status quo. I mean that he's going to
get more and more. So why stop in his mind,
because the casualties, the humanitarian cost, he is absolutely to
pay that price on both sides. Something that is particularly
(07:04):
jarring about Putin is he certainly is not losing any
sleep at night about Ukrainian casualties. He's not losing any
sleep about Russian casualties either. Yeah, this is unfortunately the
mindset that he operates with. So that means that that
conflict is likely to continue on unless there's a real
change in that. Trump has at least started to push
(07:24):
in that direction publicly. If Putin starts to feel like
they are losing some territory inside of Ukraine, maybe then
there'd be more of a willingness. But that's a tough
ask for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How much do you think this is cultural in that
the way Russia defines itself in the modern era from
a positive perspective is by the sacrifice that the country
was willing to make during World War Two. And so
if you go back in time historically Russia, obviously the
collapse of communism and the Cold War that they lost,
(07:58):
it's not something that is a point of pride in
that country. But how much of the willingness of Russians
to accept frankly, huge, huge, casualty numbers is a function
of that patriotic connection to the past, where basically the
entire country.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Giving up the flower of youth is seen as.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
One of the true bravest moments and most sterling moments
in all of Russian history.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, this is how Russians fight wars, just with throwing
manpower at it. They've they've generally had. They had really weak,
speaking of generally, generals in World War Two because of
the Soviet Purge, so they had a lot of a
lot of problems with that. Now some of the people
(08:47):
talk about, like General Zukov, some of the generals in
Russian past have have been talented, but they generally throw
a lot of bodies.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
At the problem.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And that's what they're doing in Ukraine as well. So yeah,
I don't know how Trump, that's the big one that
is on the list next. And to bring this back
to Trump, the peacemaker, if he can, I would say this.
Then people might already feel that way, and that's fine.
They might be saying. If he doesn't get the Nobel
Peace Prize for this deal, it's effectively a meaningless award anyway,
because it's just some partisan tool of the global elites.
(09:19):
I think that's probably already true. But if he were
to end the rush of Ukraine War two and it
was clear that he had a central role in that,
and after this and didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Then it's a total joke.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, maybe it's already there, but it definitely would be
a total joke at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Somebody just texted me or email me that once Obama
got the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing, it had become
a participation trophy in many ways as opposed.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
To a reward or an award for what you actually accomplished.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I do wonder if peace in the Middle East, if
he suddenly is able to pivot in many ways directly
to Ukraine Russia. I still don't understand how this gets
resolved in meaning Ukraine Russia, because to your point, Putin
basically knows that long term he has the ability to
(10:13):
lean on Ukraine, and we still don't know exactly where
that line is where if he gets this amount of territory,
he's satisfied. And it just feels kind of intractable at
this point to me, because if Trump can't get it
solved negotiation wise, to your point, it seems quite clear
that Vladimir Putin just.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Will not end this war. So how do you in
any way ended.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
When Putin just refuses, well, see this is what I
meant by he doesn't leave lose sleep at night over
the casualties. There's no moral or humanitarian imperative that is
at work with Vladimir Putin at all.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
This.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It's pure force. I think the Israelis, I think the
IDF for a while have just wanted Look, we're willing
to stop. We don't want to have to keep doing this,
but we have to know that they're going to stop.
On the other side, you know, you have.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That with this, and we have to get the hostages,
which is what the HOSS has refused to release them particulately.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And I know that we're very pleased, as of course
we should be. I mean people I know people who
are teering up at the news about the hostages going
that some of the hostages are going home. But I
just can't I can't forget that a lot of hostages
are not going home alive. Yes, and that is an
active decision that was made. They had civilians in custody
(11:35):
and they let them die or they killed them one
or the other, I mean, which is the same thing.
They're in your custody, so they killed civilians that they
were holding as hostages. So the moral calculations here should
be very clear to to everybody about who the good
guys are, who the bad guys are. But I do
think that Trump now turning his there's going to be
(11:56):
some focus on this, of course, but turning his attention
to rush Ukraine issue. It has to be what are
the incentives for Putin to stop? Yes, you have to
change incentives with him. He is a It is like
dealing with a rattlesnake. You cannot say, hey, don't bite me.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
That's mean.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It has to be you back off or I'm gonna
take your head.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Which I think Trump gets because Trump's new focus has
been let's keep Russia from being able to sell their
oil through India. We're going to put a penalty on India.
And he's given Ukraine the ability in theory to actually
threaten Russia in a way with armaments and weaponry that
has not occurred so far. The risk there, obviously is
(12:41):
you accelerate the war as opposed to decelerating it. So
but I think you're right. I mean Putin has to
fear something, and ultimately I think that's what Trump has
come to realize that otherwise there is no way to
actually end this war. We'll take some of your calls,
some of your talkbacks much less serious. Buck, get your pen.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you. Let's have some fun. We're about to be
joined by Tommy Tubberville. But I jumped in this morning
and I'm doing my prep and I see a bevy
of awesome, awesome Buck talkbacks relating to what may be
(14:58):
called the La fere Polish sausage. Oh my god, look
the Polish sauage is delicious.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I don't know what to tell you. They taste great.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Uh that this is Cord BB. He's got a question
fire away.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Messages for Clay Claik Can you apply on how Bucks
sets his freshman year roommate introduced him to.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
This Polish sausage last week.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Thanks, all right, let's just that it's cool. He's throwing
gasoline onto the fire there, buddy, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Here is dog in Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
He's also got some Polish sausage feedback.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Hey, Buck Doug from Louisville, Kentucky. Gotta tell you, I'm
interested in the story of your introduction to the Polish
sausage from your friend. Feel like there's a story there,
you know. I mean, Clay's not afraid to tell us,
you know, intimate details of his experiences, and you know,
I'd like to know more. I'm sure many of us would.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When did you recognize who was the first person to
recognize he's the phrasing on your Polish Our entire, our
entire radio team in real time laughing at me in
the studio, My roommate from will Met, Okay, which I've
never been to.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And and he found out that I had never tried
Polish sausage.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So he's be able to tell the story his parents.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This is a real thing. His parents sent a big
box of Polish Polish sausage to us at Amherst, and
so we were all sitting around this camp.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
This was I'm at band camp.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So the whole staff, I don't I don't know I
would have kept a straight face when when this when this.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Store, they didn't keep a straight face, Clase, So you're
not alone there. Neither could I. But now the audience
is all, can we celebrate Trump's world peace here? Please?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
All right, we can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We could some Polish sausages just to have a really
big festive experience.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We'll grab a clip.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
By the way, President Trump has said that Columbus Day
is back, and all the Italian people are selling rating
still won to buck. The best of all the Sopranos
in terms of just pure entertainment was when they got
fired up over the banning of Columbus Day.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You remember that sopranos.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Columbus was a hero in his house. Yeah, of course,
of course I remember that. Something else. By the way,
I didn't get to tell you. I made a trip
through I had some conversations with friends in the Pentagon
Clay when I was in DC yesterday.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The day before.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I can't remember now, And you look around. You know
what it says on the on the e ring level
of the Pentagon and all these offices. Department of War,
it already changed it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So you're talking about the Apartment of War to win
like the nineteen forties.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yes, I mean through it through.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
World War Two. It was the world of the War Department.
I guess they changed it part of them, maybe the
National Security Act in the nineteen forty eight or something.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, I never really thought about it much, but as
Secretary of War, obviously during the Civil War and everything
else was was commonplace.
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All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. You know, Clay,
I was in DC and it was during the government shutdown,
and it was lovely. The streets are empty, the highways
are clear, I could get everywhere. It was the DC
that I wish I could always have lived in, where
you just get all the upside but not the overcrowding.
(19:14):
So it was really nice. Trump spoke about the shutdown
in this cabinet meeting just now, right when we came
on air. Here's what he said about it. This has
cut thirty five hit.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
It, and we'll be making cuts that we'll be permanent,
and we're only going to cut Democrat programs I hate
to tell I guess that makes sense, but we're only
cutting Democrat programs. But we're going to start that, and
we have Russell. We can talk to you about it
if he wants to. But we'll be cutting some very
(19:43):
popular Democrat programs that aren't popular with Republicans. Factly because
that's the way it works. They wanted to do this,
so we'll give a little taste of their own medicine.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Trump is enjoying the shutdowns so far, Clay. He is
not backing down an inch. Neither are the well, most
of the Republican centers. We had Senator Ron Johnson on someone,
do you guys, do we have Senator Tuberville right now?
All right, Senator Truberville, We've got a lot to talk
to you about. Thanks for joining us here. I'll actually
start just with the shutdown. Is the Republican caucus? Is
everyone standing strong on this one? Anybody getting the weak,
(20:16):
getting weak in the knees. You gotta let us know
we can't have that stuff. No caving allowed.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Well, I've seen a couple of a couple of soft
movements here lately from Republicans, but I think there's more
on the side of Democrats. I think the polling is
going against them, but we just got a hold strong, guys.
If we don't hold strong, in which we normally don't
on the Republican side, somebody starts the cave, and then
then we're going to be in for a one point
(20:43):
five trillion dollars more that American taxpayers are going to
unlose because of the corrupt Democrats and socials party trying
to spend everything they send up here.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Do you get the sense, because I don't. I've been
on the road. I was just down in Florida. I've
been traveling all fall, but since the shutdown started, no
one asked me about it. And I understand that it's
a real focus in Washington, d C. But I don't
get the sense that Democrats are actually creating some form
of huge uproar over the government being shut down. And
(21:17):
now we've got President Trump trying to travel to the
Middle East and potentially bringing peace there.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Story is far more important and attention gathering right now
than anything relating to the shutdown. I'm curious what you
hear when you are on the road and people talk
to you about things impacting their lives.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Well, they I hear more about tariffs than I do anything.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That's because of the.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Farmers, and you know they're struggling, and we've got to
protect our farmers. We got to protect our military and
law enforcement during this shut down. But you know, the Democrats,
they have nothing to hang their hand on, and so
now they've got something they can Hey, you know, we
can fight back here. There's something some people might agree
with us, because nothing else. Very few Americans agree with
(22:02):
the Democratic Party on anything that they've done or try
to do, or anything that they believe in. So we
just got to hold on. We just got to keep pushing,
get President Trump and Scott Bessett and the people over
in the administration and opportunity to clean out the fat
of this bloated government of three million government employees. My gosh,
(22:22):
I mean, we got people that we don't even know
get a paycheck, and so at the end of the day,
we've got to clean this mess up.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Start Tubberville. It's absolutely a day of some celebration from
the Trump side of things. Given the ceasefire. I wanted
to just get your reaction to what this president seems
to have accomplished and the satisfaction that I'm sure he
and many of us get from seeing even people who
never give Trump anything, never give him the benefit of
(22:54):
the doubt, never give him a fair shot. They're even
having to say, this is a pretty big deal that
he has negotiated between Israel and Hamas.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
Yeah, this is huge, and we got to get the
hostages out. We got to get out of this mess.
Mike Huckabe, the ambassador Marco Rubio went off all these
They have been working their tails off trying to get
something done there and also in Ukraine and Russia. So
hopefully this works out as a twenty point plan. First
of all, if we can get the hostages out, I
(23:26):
mean President Trump has done his job, because that is
our main goal is get these people loose, get them
out of these tunnels, these caves, give them some food,
get them back to society. This group that we're fighting,
this Islamic terrorism that we're fighting within a moss. They
are absolutely trying to destroy that part of the country.
(23:50):
And by the way, they're coming to a theater near us,
and we better watch out.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
We're talking to Senator Tommy Tubervill. He's the next governor
of Alabama. I know you're in the midst of your
governor's campaign while also being a senator. I'm sure you saw.
I did a sit down with Paul Feinbaum, a guy
you've known from college football, I imagine for a long
time in the state of Alabama. He hasn't officially announced,
(24:14):
but what's your reaction to what kind of candidate Paul
Feinbaum might be if he ran in the primary to
potentially be a senator from Alabama?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What do you know about him? What do you think
about the idea?
Speaker 8 (24:26):
Yeah, I've been friends with Paul for thirty years and
even when I was an assistant coach. He's made a
name for hisself. He's got one hundred percent name he
in Alabama. I tell him he's also made ever by
mad in Alabama at one time, because but that was
his job, you know, making people, you know, a conversation
about sports. Now, he's never been in politics, but neither
(24:47):
had I. He asked me what I thought. I said, well,
you know, if you're going to get into this and
I'm not supporting anybody, that's not my job. I've talked
to everybody this running from my position, and I said,
you know, you've got to get out there and sell yourself,
not as a media person, but as somebody's going to
represent the people of Alabama in this country. So I
(25:09):
heard your interview, I've talked to him. I think he's
really really looking into it, and I think that he's
about to have it with a lot of things that
have gone on in his previous life professionally, and you know,
he's an American, but he's got to get out and
sell the point and the fact of am I Trump.
He's got to be a Trump guy in Alabama. He's
got to be conservative, and he's got to show and
(25:32):
tell people and convince people that that's what he's going
to do.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You worked in sports as a head coach for a
long time, and by the way, you beat Alabama six
years in a row as an Auburn coach and got
elected in the state of Alabama. So that in and
of itself, and you're not going to be the governor
now in a state where Alabama is the majority fan base.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Auburn's got a great fan base. Two. Paul's for that
fed up.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think I'm you can kind of read it in
that conversation with Disney and ESPN siding that they're going
to go full left wing. You've been doing sports a
long time. Uh, would you ever believe that Disney and
ESPN were going to turn ESPN into another arm of MSNBC.
Would you ever believe that could be possible in the
world of sports.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
No, never, could have. Never would have believed it or
wanted to believe it. And I just can't believe.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That that an entity that big, that touches so many people,
that has really lived off the American people and true.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Patriotism, would go that direction. You know, I worked with
Mike Patrick one year, is his color guy, and now
well he was the play by play guy in his
last year for ESPN and ABC, And Uh, I've never
seen such far left groups in my life. I mean,
(26:53):
it was just it was just they were that's when
Trump first got elected and they it was just a
fight from the start to the finish. When you're around
a lot of those people that couldn't believe that I
was a Trump supporter. So at the end of the day,
you've got different factions in our country. The problem that
I'm having today is how much does the Democratic Party
(27:14):
really love this country? Yes, so they love our constitution.
You know, we all have different opinions. But my god, folks,
we look what they did. I'm in the elite eight
I was. I had my phone's tapped by the FBI
under the Department of Justice, a city United States Senator.
You've got to be kidding me. So it is, you know,
(27:36):
I just don't understand it. I really don't of the
mindset of the people that are are trying, and I
think it's their way of life. Is they want to
change everything that we're doing and go to another type
of country that We're not going to allow that to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You've known Paul Feinbaum, you said for thirty years. I
understand that you are not going to endorse. This is
your seat that's going to be up for grabs. Based
on your conversations, do you think he's going to run
or do you think he's not going to run.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I think it's more than he is than he's not.
Now again, this is a week or so ago. The
last time I talked to him, and I said, Paul,
you got to do your due diligence. You got to
go out. You's got to start making phone calls. You've
got to talk to people. Don't take my word for it.
I'm one vote and I got an opinion. But you
have to go and talk to people that and try
(28:30):
to get two million people to vote for you. And
there's a lot of convention you're going to have to do.
But I told the same thing to Steve Marshall, the
Attorney General, the same thing to Barry Moore, who's in Congress.
It's running for this seat. You have got to tell
them what you stand for, and people got to believe that.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You've got to be convincing. I said.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I did that for a year and a half when
I was a football coach, and I said, I'm gona
run Percentate. I went to every little town, every meeting,
every farm meeting, and told him, listen, I'm running, and
this is what I believe in. Forget about coaching, just
this is what I believe in. And thank goodness, I
don't think they elected me as coach. They elected me
for my beliefs and my love for the country.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Senator Tuberville, always appreciate you making the time for us
here on Clan Buck.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
All right, guys, thank you, God bless and.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I believe it's Columbus Day.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
It has been attacked as Indigenous People's Day. We mentioned
this earlier on The Sopranos. For those of you who watched,
there was an episode where Tony wanted to defend Christopher Columbus.
Let's have a little fun, and here's that clip.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
He discovered America is what he did. He was a
brave at Tian explorer and this house.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Christopher Columbus is a hero and a story.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But Donald Trump agrees Buck. This just happened in the
White House, cut thirty six. I believe Trump announcing that
Columbus Day is still Columbus Day.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
In other words, we're calling it Columbus Day.
Speaker 9 (31:15):
That was the press that broke out in the clause
that I've never seen that happened before the press actually
broke out in applause, Good Columbus Day, We're back, Columbus Day.
We're back Italians, and we loved the Italians.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
We loved the Italians and the Polish and many others.
Some people are saying I would just say, Clay, I
guess we're just not concerned anymore with what Columbus's stance
on trans writes and climate change was.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's a little little I feel a little.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Microaggression here, a little triggered perhaps, where was Columbus on
these key issues.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
It is interesting, isn't it that all of the tear
down the statue people have just suddenly vanished. There's almost
no discussion.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
About it at all.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I haven't when's the last time you saw someone try
to tear down it. It was all pure mass formation,
it was. It was mass psychosis.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It was the topic from my book coming out in January,
manufacturing delusion. That's what it was. So that is you
like that? That was cool, like the other side of
the pillow. Yeah, that's that's the truth of it, though, Clay.
It's just people were caught up in their own rage
(32:38):
and nonsense because pulling down the statues and all the
stuff that they were saying. Remember, it got to the
point where they were pulling down Abraham Lincoln statues. It
just didn't even matter anymore. They just wanted to what
is Michael Caine saying badman. He's like, some men just
won't to see the world burn, you know. He just
kind of says that, and they just wanted to see
the world burn.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's what it was. I don't even know if I
can this joke from a Polish man. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, you're Klay Travis. People still say to me,
They're like, did he really say this?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I'm supposed to be like your keeper, you know, like
I'm supposed to keep you from getting outside the bars
of the cage and going wild on the visitors.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
This is this is a polish man.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
But my father in law, Larry Kornacki, who passed last year,
also a polish Man. He would love this joke, so
I'm gonna tell it in his honor. As a polish man,
I can tell this joke. This is not me. This
is the Polish man Michael, whose last name I can't
even pronounce. What does a polish man This is a
little this is a double entendre buck, but it's a
(33:44):
little anyway. What does a polish man give his wife
on their wedding night? That is long and hard his
last name? That's pretty good that's pretty good, very much
border line, but I think good. So if you're upset,
that is uh, Michael g whose last name I cannot read,
(34:06):
and you can steal that one, and you can.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm gonna be reading I'm gonna be reading emails all
weekend from our listener ethel who is going to be
telling me that you need a timeout, sir, that you
have you have to be put in the corner, sir.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I think that I think that was within the bounds.
I think that was within the bounds.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
But I did pause for a minute, which maybe means
it's not within bounds. We also have this you were
talking about the impact. I mean, I do think this
ties in with the statue thing we have CNN. This
is Michael Inton basically pointing out something that I do
think it's worth re addressing on a rate. Is this
(34:46):
the ex conversation the top of the next how let's.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Say it is for the top of it, because we've
only got about a minute here, so we can tee
this up a bit. The the change in the media
ecosystem is so powerful right now, Uh that what had
happened was the Democrats play the left were able to
make and they were able to enforce arguments on the
public that they could not subject to scrutiny, but they
(35:13):
just had the raw power to through straight really information warfare,
flood the zone and convince enough people that this is
what it has to be, and that now has been shattered.
It's not gone, but it is a fraction of what
it used to be. And I think that this ties
(35:36):
into X. This ties into the change in the change
in the culture that we see now. And I also
think that people are increasingly in positions where they realize
we need to have our own platforms and have our
own stuff too, So that's all to the good.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I also think it is showing us how astro turf
much of the arguments on the left really were in
terms of whether they reflected the reality of opinion or
normal people. I think that X under Elon is much
more of a reflection of honest public opinion as opposed
(36:16):
to a Silicon Valley San Francisco era view of the world.
But we'll give you some data on that when we
come back. In the meantime, Buck is going to be
sampling Polish sausages during the commercial break, and we will
have a lot more fun for all of you in
the third hour of the program, including I don't know
(36:38):
how much you talked about this yesterday, Buck, because I
can't remember exactly what time this came out. It wasn't
climate changed. It was a crazy left wing arsonist that
tried to burn down la Oh.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
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