June 17, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a high-stakes, real-time analysis of breaking geopolitical developments, with a strong focus on President Donald Trump’s leadership amid escalating tensions in the Middle East. Broadcasting from Washington, D.C., Clay Travis covers the urgent situation unfolding in the White House Situation Room, where President Trump is reportedly meeting with top advisors to discuss Israel’s request for the U.S. to deploy bunker-busting bombs against Iran’s underground nuclear facilities. This hour underscores Trump’s decade-long commitment to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, reinforcing his consistent foreign policy stance. The show features a compelling call-in segment with Iranian-American listeners, offering firsthand perspectives on the Iranian regime, public sentiment within Iran, and the potential consequences of U.S. military intervention. One caller passionately supports regime change and criticizes Western media portrayals of Iranian citizens, emphasizing the secular and modern aspirations of many Iranians. Clay also revisits the 2009 Green Movement and subsequent protests in Iran, highlighting the long-standing resistance to the Ayatollah’s rule. He discusses the strategic implications of U.S. air superiority over Iran and features expert commentary from a former weapons developer on the tactical use of bunker-buster bombs. The conversation explores the feasibility of dismantling Iran’s nuclear infrastructure node by node, emphasizing the complexity of Iran’s underground facilities. In domestic political news, Clay critiques Senator Alex Padilla’s emotional Senate floor speech following his controversial interruption of Governor Kristi Noem’s press conference. Travis contrasts Padilla’s reaction with President Trump’s stoic response during a recent assassination attempt, framing Trump as a symbol of masculine resilience and authenticity—a theme he argues resonates deeply with American men and younger voters. The hour also touches on the broader cultural and political divide, with commentary on Representative Ilhan Omar’s criticism of the U.S. and her comparison to Somalia, which Clay uses to question the sincerity of her grievances. Listeners are reminded of upcoming guests in Hour 3, including Senator Rand Paul and FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, who will provide updates on Capitol Hill developments and the “big beautiful bill” under debate. This episode is packed with real-time geopolitical analysis, strong conservative commentary, and listener engagement, making it a must-listen for those following U.S. foreign policy, national security, and the 2024 presidential election under President Donald Trump’s leadership.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number two. Clay Travis Buck Sexton
show Buck is over in the French Riviera with iHeart,
meeting with advertisers. He'll be out all week. I am
in Washington, d C. Just down the street from the
White House, where we continue to have a lot of
(00:20):
breaking news, a lot of different reports. The latest is
that President Trump is now in the situation Room for
a meeting with his top advisors about what he should
do given Israel appears to be requesting that we use
our bunker breaking bombs that will go deep underground to
(00:46):
wipe out the ability of Iran to have nuclear weapons.
They are making those nuclear weapons many different parts of
the country, but in particular inside of and underneath a
law large mountain in Iran that they believe is unreachable
by traditional weaponry. And they are correct, and Israel reportedly
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has been unable to get to the heart of that area.
So there is reportedly a situation room meeting going on
right now surrounding that. We are taking your calls and
your reactions to this. This is ten years ago. I
read a tweet from JD. Van's vice president and by
(01:31):
the way, you just heard Senator Ted Cruz of Texas
at the end of the last hour, laying out what
he believes should be done. Senator Rampaul is going to
be with us at the top of the third hour,
we'll see what the latest news is there and ask
his opinion on this, and certainly the big beautiful Bill
as well. And then at the bottom of the third hour,
so about an hour and twenty minutes from now, we'll
(01:54):
be joined by FCC Chairman Brendan Carr. But I wanted
to play this for you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
This is ten years ago this week, on the very
first day he announced he was running, President Trump said
I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. For ten years,
he has consistently said that, I want to play it
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Here's President Trump a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, and we
won't be using a man like Secretary carry that has
absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and
laughable deal, who's just being tapped along as they make
weapons right now?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That is Trump a decade ago. So Trump has been consistent,
as JD. Van's laid out for a decade in saying
he will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. Now.
I said in the first hour that I believe if
Israel is requesting our use of the big bunker bomb
(03:00):
to take out once and for all Iran's ability to
create a nuclear weapon, that I think we should give it.
That's point one point two. And I may be going
a bit further than other people that you're hearing. I
think we should take the Ayatole out. And those are
difficult decisions and some people out there, it's not gonna
shock you don't agree with me, and if you do
(03:22):
agree with me, you can weigh in two eight hundred
and two eighty two, two eight eight two. I believe
we have a caller. Mike is an Iranian American? Is
he still there? Guys came here in nineteen sixty nine,
wanted to tell us his perspective on what is going
on there? Do we have him still? Okay? Mike? What
do you yes, Mike, thank you for calling in. What
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should we know about Iran? You left in nineteen sixty nine?
What do you think the people of Iran are thinking
right now? What do you think America should do?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I hope I don't get too nervous because there are
forty years of statement. So I want to talk to
with my American compatriots. But on the lighter note, first,
I wish you good luck play on your upcoming basketball challenges.
You lose, are you set back a lot of them?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Are right?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I did not expect the discussion of Iranian nuclear capabilities
to begin with. Look, here's the reality. I would wreck
Angel Reese, and I think she's afraid of playing me.
And I put one hundred thousand dollars. There's no outside shot.
If I can hit a backboard from the three point line,
I got a better outside shot than she does. All right,
(04:38):
that's really funny. Okay, So you left to Ron nineteen
sixty nine as you analyze this situation.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Back and forth. I was a student when I come in,
came to us first. Okay, I want you first of all,
I fully agree with the statements you make here today
along with Senator the Iatolas must go. But what I
want you to understand is, first of all, God bless
(05:08):
Russia's soul. I was I wish he was here to
see these days because he was one of the first
to see the woke agenda that was brewing in Europe
and was getting the leftist agenda that was fighting the
American soul and in many ways succeeded in taking over Europe.
(05:30):
That same group or the way of thinking, leftist way
of thinking that top of the shaw in Iran were
almost succeeded on taking over America. I'm just so happy
I voted for Dawn Trroum three times. What I want
you to understand is the American compatriots to understand is
(05:54):
that the media has succeeded in making you think that
audience are a bunch of religious feats that go along
with religious teachings. In fact, Iranians are less religious than
any community I know in the West. We are to
(06:16):
a point that I'm afraid the same place that America is.
I'm afraid that Iranians are going to lose beliefs in
the Almighty just because of the bad religion teachings of
the Molars. Uh, the Iranians. We don't need any boats
(06:37):
in the ground, but this government has to go. Unfortunately,
a lot of burdens of this government falls into the
shoulders are very Mester Biden, who was at the time
Carter's chief of staff, was it or something like that
(06:58):
National Security had he along with certain leftists than Europe
engineered this government being in you on, so even for
the take of Karma, please help remove the son of
the I don't want to get it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, no, I appreciate, thank you for the call. By
the way, this is a really good idea. I would
imagine that there are a lot of people that are
born in Iran that are listening to us right now,
just like this caller, I actually reached out. I've got
as many of you do friends with who are Iranian.
(07:37):
I reached out to a couple of my friends just
to ask them, Hey, you still have family there, you
have closer connections to the country. What should I know?
I would like for you guys, if you are listening
right now, let me just do this. Iranian listeners, born
in Iran, family in Iran. What should we know based
on your conversations with family members about what would happen?
(08:01):
Because I think I think most of you agree with
me when it comes to the using the big bunker
bomb and taking out nuclear Iran, right, I think most
of you, based on the reaction, are going to agree
with that. I think the Ayatolah's being removed is more
challenging because we don't know necessarily what the next regime
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would be Now, I would submit to you it's unlikely
the next regime is going to be worse than people
chanting death to America and trying to destroy Israel and
trying to destroy America to the best of their ability.
I think that's unlikely. If we could have the royal
family back in that was a much more modern version
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of Iran, I think a lot of people would support that.
But what would actually happen and what is the overall
vibe of the Iranians? Remember was it? Team researched this
for me. I believe it was two thousand in nineteen
when it appeared that the Iranian people might be close
to overthrowing their leadership. When we had the so called
(09:10):
Arab Spring and there were a lot of protests that
were emerging all over the Middle East. Iran was one
of the places with the most substantial protest, but the
Ayatolas eventually managed to push that down and the people
who were protesting did not rise to power. I think
that was twenty nineteen. Again, I'm may be wrong if
(09:32):
the team will look up exactly what year that was,
but we know that there has been an underground disdain
for the Ayatola and his leadership for a long time.
There isn't a lot of activity in the streets of
Iran right now because frankly, I think people are terrified
and you don't know where the next attack is going
to come. And the videos that I have seen coming
(09:53):
out of Tehran are mostly people. I mean, Trump himself
said hey, everybody, leave you to the ten million people
who live in that city, get out of it. So
I've seen the roads packed. I think a lot of
people who do have the ability to leave have left.
And the targeted attacks have continued on high level, high
ranking military and government officials from Iran, whereas Iran's response
(10:18):
has been somewhat haphazard, where they're just trying to land
as many missiles to do damage to the Israeli people
as possible. Arab Spring, let's see, began in Okay, So
that was longer ago. Two thousand and nine was the
Green Uprising in Iran. But I feel like since then
(10:39):
there have been other protests more outspoken. I know that
they killed. There was a very much I remember reading
and paying attention to it. The women of Iran fought
back against a requirement that they always wear the hijab,
if I remember correctly, and the Mullas beat down on
(11:01):
that quite severely and actually killed some young women who
were deciding that they didn't want to wear the hijab. Also,
there's been a tremendous crackdown on young girls dancing just
doing dancing videos by the molas there in terms of
coming after them aggressively. There were, in fact, more recent protests.
(11:25):
The team is looking this up in twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty, and so that has continued and may well
continue going forward when there is more safety on the ground.
But these are big decisions. Again, reports that Trump is
in the situation room. Iranian listeners born and raised there
(11:45):
with family back in Iran. I would be curious to
hear from you what you are hearing from your friends
and family on the ground as we continue throughout the
course of this program. But I want to tell you
speaking about the Middle East, I came back and was
in the Middle East in December and saw for myself
(12:06):
everything on the ground there and how dangerous it can
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(12:30):
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That's IFCJ dot org. We are monitoring in real time
maybe the most consequential decision that President Trump is going
to have to make in office. A lot of different
(13:40):
reports out there Pentagon moving more fighter jets to the
Middle East, extending the deployment of air assets already in
the Middle East. Aisha has Any at Fox News reporting that, uh,
they are now saying as well. A White House official
this is let's see Jake Trailer, who is at Politico.
(14:05):
A White House official tells me the we Trump is
referring to when he said we now have complete and
total control of the skies, the we Trump is referring
to is the United States. The official would not share
quote additional operational details when asked if US planes are
currently flying over Iran. The Pentagon again sending more planes
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to the Middle East. And I'm trying, even as I'm
doing the show, I'm trying to hit refresh because this
is constantly evolving. And there now is also a move
in on Capitol Hill to require a declaration of war
(14:55):
if America is going to be involved in the situation
in Iran, and that might lead the President to act
even more quickly. Massey has introduced the Iran War Powers Resolution,
which would prohibit US involvement in the Israel Iran war.
(15:18):
I do not know if there is going to be
much support for that in general, but all of this
is happening in real time. We've got a lot of
different people out there who went away in not surprisingly
Jim and Tennessee. You helped to develop these bunker buster bombs.
(15:39):
What do you think when you hear that they might
be deployed in Iran?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I was with the team that developed both the MOAB,
the massive ordinance air burst weapon, as well as the
bunker busters. And now that we have air supp periority
over Tehran or over all of Iran, essentially that allowed
(16:06):
would allow the US military, US Air Force to operate
with impunity, so that there would literally be nothing that
the Iranians could do to stop our use of those weapons.
And shy of that or before doing that, I would
I would recommend that we would or that Israel continues
(16:31):
to attack the infrastructure that supports these facilities and the staff.
So take out the staff, take out the infrastructure that
supports it, the water, the power, all the utilities, and
then the command and control, and then these facilities then
would be operating autonomously without any input from command and control.
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And this is a massive series of somewhat interconnected expansive
tunnel systems deeply buried facilities that would have to be
then could then be taken apart piece by piece like
a jigsaw puzzle. And then once and once you take
out the system's node by node, then they would never
(17:18):
be able to function again.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Thank you for the call and the explanation the pre Sorry,
the King of Iran is scheduled to address the nation
of Iran. I just saw that news again, Iranian callers,
I'd be curious. Remember it was the rise of the
Malas that ended the king's reign in Iran, that set
(17:45):
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Speaker 1 (19:16):
Let's hit some of the additional stories that are out there.
We haven't talked very much about Senator Alex Padilla. He
stormed CHRISTINOAM during the course of a presser that she
was doing in California surrounding Los Angeles. He was restrained.
He then tried to charge her towards her again. He
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just stood up on the center. But nobody was more
upset that Israel decided to attack Iran on Thursday night
than Senator Alex Padilla. This was his big moment, This
was what he'd waited his entire career for. He sent
out a fundraising email he won, wanted to be at
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the top of every news story. And then actual serious
news happened and most people stopped talking about Senator Padilla.
This story vanished, but he just took to the Senate
floor and listened to him as he holds back tears
talking about what happened to him. Cut twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
You've seen the video.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I was pushed and pulled, struggled to.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Maintain my balance. I was forced to the ground, first
on my knees and then flat on my chest and
its hose, handcuffed and marched down a halway, repeatedly asking
(20:53):
why am I being detained? Not once did they tell
me why?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh oh God.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I don't know how he survived.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm wiping away the tears right now. Can you imagine
for thirty seconds after he charged a woman in the
middle of a press conference.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They took him to his knees.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And then to his chest, and then they stood him up.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I'm sorry, I can barely talk to you. This
is why no one who is masculine likes Democrats, even
the men aren't complete and total pussy Willows sack up.
You created this situation, Senator Padilla. If you wanted to
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talk to Christy Nome, you could have just requested a meeting.
You didn't have to storm in and actually interrupt her
press conference. I do think it would have been HYSTERI
miracle if Christy Nomes had stormed into the Senate during
his speech and interrupted his speech. You know this whole
(22:09):
idea of not letting people talk. I went on media
Buzz and I talked about this in the way we
know that Unfortunately, there are lots of people being targeted
for their politics. Right now. There is a high temperature
(22:32):
of anger. And I gotta be honest with you, what
do we want the Secret Service to do? How close
should we let a stranger get When I gotta tell you,
you're sitting there addressing the room, Christy Nomes is not
(22:52):
necessarily aware the lights are bright when you're standing up
in front of that room. I do a great deal
of public speaking. I can virtually guarantee you that if
somebody is advancing on the side and I'm facing the
front of the room and there are bright lights and
I'm talking, I'm probably not gonna be aware of who
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that person is. People are like, well, she knows who
he is. She had no ability to see him. He
chose to create a stunt, and now he's showing up
on the Senate floor with these crocodile tears about how
he was treated. What do you want them to do?
What was he hoping to achieve here? If he had
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been able to continue up closer to her? Was he
just going to completely interrupt depress Eva? I mean, this
is just it. He is so in the wrong here
that the idea he would try to turn himself into
a victim. I think men out there across America see
(23:58):
this and think it's put that behavior. It's not hard
for a United States senator to get attention. If you
call a press conference and you are a Democrat senator,
there are going to be a bunch of media that
show up. Senator Padilla could have held a press conference
and attacked the Trump administration for what they're doing in
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Los Angeles, and the media would have shown up there
and they would have covered his event. The whole idea
of storming into a Cabinet secretary's press conference and intercepting
it and then being upset interrupting it, and then being
upset that the security detail associated with her, which I'm
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sure that I know. I talked to Tom Homan about
a month ago up here in DC. The number of
death threats that Tom Homan is getting are off the
charts right now. I would virtually guarantee that Christy nom
is getting an unbelievable amount of death threats as well.
Their job, the Secret Service is is to protect her.
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They did exactly what they should have done. She didn't
do anything wrong. They didn't do anything wrong. When they
figured out who he was, they let him go. But
would they do that for somebody if they weren't a senator.
He's actually getting preferential treatment, and then to show up
on the Senate floor and this situation is going on.
(25:26):
I gotta tell you, if I had security and somebody's
yelling at me and advancing on me, and I'm speaking
up at the rostrum. I would want my security guards
to do exactly what those guys did to him, get
him out of there. You don't know what the situation is.
We just saw what happened in Minnesota. Sadly, think about
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what happened when Salmon Rushty, as status pointing out, was
up on the stage speaking and the guy came up
with a knife and stabbed him right in the middle
of his address. You don't know what the intent is.
The Secret Service doesn't, the security guards don't of a
stranger who's advancing angrily on a speaker in the middle
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of a press conference. I just I really don't understand
remotely how he is a victim in any way here,
and again, we haven't really talked about it very much
because we're actually dealing with very significant decisions as to
what the president should do in Iran. And I imagine
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most of you who have paid attention to this at
all have felt basically the same way I do. Hey, look,
I'm not somebody who's gonna say every time a man
cries is unacceptable. You know, maybe your dog died, maybe
your favorite team just won a championship and their tears
(26:50):
of joy, but fake crying about that. Like, I don't
even believe that he is even that bubbled emotionally by
what happened to him. I really don't. And to show up,
what day was that Thursday? Those Thursday afternoon, right Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
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Five days later, he takes to the Senate floor, and
he's still so overwhelmed by what happened to him on
Thursday that he's unable to restrain his emotions. I just
I don't buy it at all. And I would argue,
and in fact I do. This is my new book
(27:32):
that's coming out in November. I would argue that one
reason young men have so pivoted away from the Democrat
Party is strongly because of the way that people like
Padilla respond, Because it's fundamentally anti masculine to be crying
about a situation like this that you caused. And not
(27:54):
only is it not masculine, it's also dishonest and inauthentic.
I think what young men in particular see in Trump
is they don't agree with everything Trump does, but they
believe that he is authentic. And in my book, I
argue that the moment that bullet buzzed his ear in Butler, Pennsylvania,
(28:18):
and he stood up and said fight, fight, fight. In
that crucible moment, I think most men in America said
this is my guy, and I know a lot of
women did too, But I think uniquely for men in
a position of peril like that, you can argue it
was reckless, foolhardy, even for the President of the United States,
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the running for president of the United States, former president
at the time, for him to stand up and pump
his fist in say fight, fight, fight, and let everybody
know he was okay. There could have been a second shooter.
It may have been a reckless thing for the president
to do. I bet the Secret Service in retrospect they
were like, man and you should have kept him down
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behind that podium because the danger of exposing himself in
that manner right after the bullet buzzed his ear. But
in that moment, in that crucible moment of test, I
think he revealed his inner core, and it was exactly
(29:22):
the inner core that he had been telling us he
represented since he came down the escalator ten years ago.
You may not agree with everything the president does now
in his term, you shouldn't nobody should agree with everything
any political figure does. You should all think for yourself
and sometimes you should disagree. But for him in that
(29:43):
moment to have behaved that bravely, I think for the
election it was decided on that day. I really do
think for many men, that was the moment they said, Hey,
Trump's the guy, he's the dude, He's the man in
(30:03):
the arena, and he isn't faking it. And then you
contrast it with the Senator Padia thing crying five days
later on the Senate floor. They took me to my knees.
I ge't it's just so fake. And I think again,
authenticity is what young men, and I think most voters,
(30:26):
but young men in particular, are seeking because they feel
like they're lied to so much. And young men and
young women out there still dealing with the fact that
they were lied to so much about COVID. I think
there's a lot of anger. I think Trump channels that anger.
But I think the sheer balls that he showed on
that day in Butler, Pennsylvania won him the election. And
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I think what Senator Padia is doing, they pushed me
to the ground. It's just so fake that everyone is
looking at him, and it's the antithesis of what Trump did.
We'll take some of your calls. By the way, we're
scheduled for a couple of guests. Third hour of the
program coming up. Senator Rampaul gonna join us and also
(31:12):
the chairman of the FCC. He's got a lot of
big decisions to make, Brendan Carr, He's going to be
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I wanted to play this for you elon Omar. She's
really upset that Israel is having success against Iran, and
she wanted to let you know that the United States
is actually an awful country.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Listen, I grew up in a dictatorship and I don't
even remember ever witnessing anything like that. To have a democracy,
a peacan of hope for the world to now be
turned into one of the you know, one of the
worst countries where the military are in our streets without
(34:25):
any regard for people's constitutional rights, while our president is
spending millions of dollars prompting himself up like a failed
dictator with a military parade. It is really shocking.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I mean, where's she from? Samalia? Is it Samalia that
elan Omar was originally from? I think that's right, team
you know, look it up. I can't remember for sure.
She grew up in Somalia. Now she thinks the United
States is worse. It's an interesting perspective. What about you
if I, presumably she's still a citizen of Samalia too.
(35:00):
If I had dual citizenship and I thought the country
that I'm in right now was worse than the country
I was a citizen of, I would go back to
the country that I used to be a citizen of.
I mean, is that crazy? Is that a wild take?
I mean, if you have dual citizenship and you truly
believed that the country you were in right now was
(35:20):
worse than the country that you grew up in, wouldn't
you go back to the country that you grew up in?
Yet they never do, do they? What's interesting Neil and Nomore.
Oh my gosh, the United States is the worst place ever.
She was born in Moga, Mogadishu, Somalia, so she's I presume,
(35:42):
still a citizen of Samalia. She could go back, she
could lend her substantial talents to the Somali government. She
would love it. It's better than here. Evidently, seems like
a good choice she could make. Yeah, she's not making it,
but it's really kind of intriguing. We're breaking down everything.
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When we come back, Senator ram Paul is going to
join us from Kentucky with the absolute latest on what's
going on in Iran, what the United States should do,
but also the absolute latest on the Big Beautiful Bill.
He has been unhappy with the amount of money being
spent and wants there to be more cuts. We will
(36:25):
see what the latest is on the progress of the
Big Beautiful Bill. Was expected or hoped that it would
pass before July fourth, Is it on track to do that.
We will break down the absolute latest on the bill
with him and on Capitol Hill in general. I'll also
continue to play some of your talkbacks, some of your
calls eight hundred and two two two eight eight two
(36:47):
as we roll into the third hour and at the
bottom two thirty in studio here with me FCC Chairman
Brendan Carr should be interesting. All that more come in
your way final hour next
Welcome back in our number two. Clay Travis Buck Sexton
show Buck is over in the French Riviera with iHeart,
meeting with advertisers. He'll be out all week. I am
in Washington, d C. Just down the street from the
White House, where we continue to have a lot of
(00:20):
breaking news, a lot of different reports. The latest is
that President Trump is now in the situation Room for
a meeting with his top advisors about what he should
do given Israel appears to be requesting that we use
our bunker breaking bombs that will go deep underground to
(00:46):
wipe out the ability of Iran to have nuclear weapons.
They are making those nuclear weapons many different parts of
the country, but in particular inside of and underneath a
law large mountain in Iran that they believe is unreachable
by traditional weaponry. And they are correct, and Israel reportedly
(01:09):
has been unable to get to the heart of that area.
So there is reportedly a situation room meeting going on
right now surrounding that. We are taking your calls and
your reactions to this. This is ten years ago. I
read a tweet from JD. Van's vice president and by
(01:31):
the way, you just heard Senator Ted Cruz of Texas
at the end of the last hour, laying out what
he believes should be done. Senator Rampaul is going to
be with us at the top of the third hour,
we'll see what the latest news is there and ask
his opinion on this, and certainly the big beautiful Bill
as well. And then at the bottom of the third hour,
so about an hour and twenty minutes from now, we'll
(01:54):
be joined by FCC Chairman Brendan Carr. But I wanted
to play this for you.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
This is ten years ago this week, on the very
first day he announced he was running, President Trump said
I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. For ten years,
he has consistently said that, I want to play it
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Here's President Trump a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, and we
won't be using a man like Secretary carry that has
absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and
laughable deal, who's just being tapped along as they make
weapons right now?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That is Trump a decade ago. So Trump has been consistent,
as JD. Van's laid out for a decade in saying
he will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons. Now.
I said in the first hour that I believe if
Israel is requesting our use of the big bunker bomb
(03:00):
to take out once and for all Iran's ability to
create a nuclear weapon, that I think we should give it.
That's point one point two. And I may be going
a bit further than other people that you're hearing. I
think we should take the Ayatole out. And those are
difficult decisions and some people out there, it's not gonna
shock you don't agree with me, and if you do
(03:22):
agree with me, you can weigh in two eight hundred
and two eighty two, two eight eight two. I believe
we have a caller. Mike is an Iranian American? Is
he still there? Guys came here in nineteen sixty nine,
wanted to tell us his perspective on what is going
on there? Do we have him still? Okay? Mike? What
do you yes, Mike, thank you for calling in. What
(03:45):
should we know about Iran? You left in nineteen sixty nine?
What do you think the people of Iran are thinking
right now? What do you think America should do?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I hope I don't get too nervous because there are
forty years of statement. So I want to talk to
with my American compatriots. But on the lighter note, first,
I wish you good luck play on your upcoming basketball challenges.
You lose, are you set back a lot of them?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Are right?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I did not expect the discussion of Iranian nuclear capabilities
to begin with. Look, here's the reality. I would wreck
Angel Reese, and I think she's afraid of playing me.
And I put one hundred thousand dollars. There's no outside shot.
If I can hit a backboard from the three point line,
I got a better outside shot than she does. All right,
(04:38):
that's really funny. Okay, So you left to Ron nineteen
sixty nine as you analyze this situation.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Back and forth. I was a student when I come in,
came to us first. Okay, I want you first of all,
I fully agree with the statements you make here today
along with Senator the Iatolas must go. But what I
want you to understand is, first of all, God bless
(05:08):
Russia's soul. I was I wish he was here to
see these days because he was one of the first
to see the woke agenda that was brewing in Europe
and was getting the leftist agenda that was fighting the
American soul and in many ways succeeded in taking over Europe.
(05:30):
That same group or the way of thinking, leftist way
of thinking that top of the shaw in Iran were
almost succeeded on taking over America. I'm just so happy
I voted for Dawn Trroum three times. What I want
you to understand is the American compatriots to understand is
(05:54):
that the media has succeeded in making you think that
audience are a bunch of religious feats that go along
with religious teachings. In fact, Iranians are less religious than
any community I know in the West. We are to
(06:16):
a point that I'm afraid the same place that America is.
I'm afraid that Iranians are going to lose beliefs in
the Almighty just because of the bad religion teachings of
the Molars. Uh, the Iranians. We don't need any boats
(06:37):
in the ground, but this government has to go. Unfortunately,
a lot of burdens of this government falls into the
shoulders are very Mester Biden, who was at the time
Carter's chief of staff, was it or something like that
(06:58):
National Security had he along with certain leftists than Europe
engineered this government being in you on, so even for
the take of Karma, please help remove the son of
the I don't want to get it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, no, I appreciate, thank you for the call. By
the way, this is a really good idea. I would
imagine that there are a lot of people that are
born in Iran that are listening to us right now,
just like this caller, I actually reached out. I've got
as many of you do friends with who are Iranian.
(07:37):
I reached out to a couple of my friends just
to ask them, Hey, you still have family there, you
have closer connections to the country. What should I know?
I would like for you guys, if you are listening
right now, let me just do this. Iranian listeners, born
in Iran, family in Iran. What should we know based
on your conversations with family members about what would happen?
(08:01):
Because I think I think most of you agree with
me when it comes to the using the big bunker
bomb and taking out nuclear Iran, right, I think most
of you, based on the reaction, are going to agree
with that. I think the Ayatolah's being removed is more
challenging because we don't know necessarily what the next regime
(08:26):
would be Now, I would submit to you it's unlikely
the next regime is going to be worse than people
chanting death to America and trying to destroy Israel and
trying to destroy America to the best of their ability.
I think that's unlikely. If we could have the royal
family back in that was a much more modern version
(08:46):
of Iran, I think a lot of people would support that.
But what would actually happen and what is the overall
vibe of the Iranians? Remember was it? Team researched this
for me. I believe it was two thousand in nineteen
when it appeared that the Iranian people might be close
to overthrowing their leadership. When we had the so called
(09:10):
Arab Spring and there were a lot of protests that
were emerging all over the Middle East. Iran was one
of the places with the most substantial protest, but the
Ayatolas eventually managed to push that down and the people
who were protesting did not rise to power. I think
that was twenty nineteen. Again, I'm may be wrong if
(09:32):
the team will look up exactly what year that was,
but we know that there has been an underground disdain
for the Ayatola and his leadership for a long time.
There isn't a lot of activity in the streets of
Iran right now because frankly, I think people are terrified
and you don't know where the next attack is going
to come. And the videos that I have seen coming
(09:53):
out of Tehran are mostly people. I mean, Trump himself
said hey, everybody, leave you to the ten million people
who live in that city, get out of it. So
I've seen the roads packed. I think a lot of
people who do have the ability to leave have left.
And the targeted attacks have continued on high level, high
ranking military and government officials from Iran, whereas Iran's response
(10:18):
has been somewhat haphazard, where they're just trying to land
as many missiles to do damage to the Israeli people
as possible. Arab Spring, let's see, began in Okay, So
that was longer ago. Two thousand and nine was the
Green Uprising in Iran. But I feel like since then
(10:39):
there have been other protests more outspoken. I know that
they killed. There was a very much I remember reading
and paying attention to it. The women of Iran fought
back against a requirement that they always wear the hijab,
if I remember correctly, and the Mullas beat down on
(11:01):
that quite severely and actually killed some young women who
were deciding that they didn't want to wear the hijab. Also,
there's been a tremendous crackdown on young girls dancing just
doing dancing videos by the molas there in terms of
coming after them aggressively. There were, in fact, more recent protests.
(11:25):
The team is looking this up in twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty, and so that has continued and may well
continue going forward when there is more safety on the ground.
But these are big decisions. Again, reports that Trump is
in the situation room. Iranian listeners born and raised there
(11:45):
with family back in Iran. I would be curious to
hear from you what you are hearing from your friends
and family on the ground as we continue throughout the
course of this program. But I want to tell you
speaking about the Middle East, I came back and was
in the Middle East in December and saw for myself
(12:06):
everything on the ground there and how dangerous it can
be when at any moment in time, there may be
bomb shelters that you have to run into. There may
be danger if you're a kid in school. That's why
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(12:30):
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That's IFCJ dot org. We are monitoring in real time
maybe the most consequential decision that President Trump is going
to have to make in office. A lot of different
(13:40):
reports out there Pentagon moving more fighter jets to the
Middle East, extending the deployment of air assets already in
the Middle East. Aisha has Any at Fox News reporting that, uh,
they are now saying as well. A White House official
this is let's see Jake Trailer, who is at Politico.
(14:05):
A White House official tells me the we Trump is
referring to when he said we now have complete and
total control of the skies, the we Trump is referring
to is the United States. The official would not share
quote additional operational details when asked if US planes are
currently flying over Iran. The Pentagon again sending more planes
(14:32):
to the Middle East. And I'm trying, even as I'm
doing the show, I'm trying to hit refresh because this
is constantly evolving. And there now is also a move
in on Capitol Hill to require a declaration of war
(14:55):
if America is going to be involved in the situation
in Iran, and that might lead the President to act
even more quickly. Massey has introduced the Iran War Powers Resolution,
which would prohibit US involvement in the Israel Iran war.
(15:18):
I do not know if there is going to be
much support for that in general, but all of this
is happening in real time. We've got a lot of
different people out there who went away in not surprisingly
Jim and Tennessee. You helped to develop these bunker buster bombs.
(15:39):
What do you think when you hear that they might
be deployed in Iran?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I was with the team that developed both the MOAB,
the massive ordinance air burst weapon, as well as the
bunker busters. And now that we have air supp periority
over Tehran or over all of Iran, essentially that allowed
(16:06):
would allow the US military, US Air Force to operate
with impunity, so that there would literally be nothing that
the Iranians could do to stop our use of those weapons.
And shy of that or before doing that, I would
I would recommend that we would or that Israel continues
(16:31):
to attack the infrastructure that supports these facilities and the staff.
So take out the staff, take out the infrastructure that
supports it, the water, the power, all the utilities, and
then the command and control, and then these facilities then
would be operating autonomously without any input from command and control.
(16:53):
And this is a massive series of somewhat interconnected expansive
tunnel systems deeply buried facilities that would have to be
then could then be taken apart piece by piece like
a jigsaw puzzle. And then once and once you take
out the system's node by node, then they would never
(17:18):
be able to function again.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Thank you for the call and the explanation the pre Sorry,
the King of Iran is scheduled to address the nation
of Iran. I just saw that news again, Iranian callers,
I'd be curious. Remember it was the rise of the
Malas that ended the king's reign in Iran, that set
(17:45):
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Let's hit some of the additional stories that are out there.
We haven't talked very much about Senator Alex Padilla. He
stormed CHRISTINOAM during the course of a presser that she
was doing in California surrounding Los Angeles. He was restrained.
He then tried to charge her towards her again. He
(19:40):
just stood up on the center. But nobody was more
upset that Israel decided to attack Iran on Thursday night
than Senator Alex Padilla. This was his big moment, This
was what he'd waited his entire career for. He sent
out a fundraising email he won, wanted to be at
(20:00):
the top of every news story. And then actual serious
news happened and most people stopped talking about Senator Padilla.
This story vanished, but he just took to the Senate
floor and listened to him as he holds back tears
talking about what happened to him. Cut twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
You've seen the video.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I was pushed and pulled, struggled to.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Maintain my balance. I was forced to the ground, first
on my knees and then flat on my chest and
its hose, handcuffed and marched down a halway, repeatedly asking
(20:53):
why am I being detained? Not once did they tell
me why?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh oh God.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I don't know how he survived.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I'm wiping away the tears right now. Can you imagine
for thirty seconds after he charged a woman in the
middle of a press conference.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They took him to his knees.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And then to his chest, and then they stood him up.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And I'm sorry, I can barely talk to you. This
is why no one who is masculine likes Democrats, even
the men aren't complete and total pussy Willows sack up.
You created this situation, Senator Padilla. If you wanted to
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talk to Christy Nome, you could have just requested a meeting.
You didn't have to storm in and actually interrupt her
press conference. I do think it would have been HYSTERI
miracle if Christy Nomes had stormed into the Senate during
his speech and interrupted his speech. You know this whole
(22:09):
idea of not letting people talk. I went on media
Buzz and I talked about this in the way we
know that Unfortunately, there are lots of people being targeted
for their politics. Right now. There is a high temperature
(22:32):
of anger. And I gotta be honest with you, what
do we want the Secret Service to do? How close
should we let a stranger get When I gotta tell you,
you're sitting there addressing the room, Christy Nomes is not
(22:52):
necessarily aware the lights are bright when you're standing up
in front of that room. I do a great deal
of public speaking. I can virtually guarantee you that if
somebody is advancing on the side and I'm facing the
front of the room and there are bright lights and
I'm talking, I'm probably not gonna be aware of who
(23:14):
that person is. People are like, well, she knows who
he is. She had no ability to see him. He
chose to create a stunt, and now he's showing up
on the Senate floor with these crocodile tears about how
he was treated. What do you want them to do?
What was he hoping to achieve here? If he had
(23:35):
been able to continue up closer to her? Was he
just going to completely interrupt depress Eva? I mean, this
is just it. He is so in the wrong here
that the idea he would try to turn himself into
a victim. I think men out there across America see
(23:58):
this and think it's put that behavior. It's not hard
for a United States senator to get attention. If you
call a press conference and you are a Democrat senator,
there are going to be a bunch of media that
show up. Senator Padilla could have held a press conference
and attacked the Trump administration for what they're doing in
(24:19):
Los Angeles, and the media would have shown up there
and they would have covered his event. The whole idea
of storming into a Cabinet secretary's press conference and intercepting
it and then being upset interrupting it, and then being
upset that the security detail associated with her, which I'm
(24:42):
sure that I know. I talked to Tom Homan about
a month ago up here in DC. The number of
death threats that Tom Homan is getting are off the
charts right now. I would virtually guarantee that Christy nom
is getting an unbelievable amount of death threats as well.
Their job, the Secret Service is is to protect her.
(25:05):
They did exactly what they should have done. She didn't
do anything wrong. They didn't do anything wrong. When they
figured out who he was, they let him go. But
would they do that for somebody if they weren't a senator.
He's actually getting preferential treatment, and then to show up
on the Senate floor and this situation is going on.
(25:26):
I gotta tell you, if I had security and somebody's
yelling at me and advancing on me, and I'm speaking
up at the rostrum. I would want my security guards
to do exactly what those guys did to him, get
him out of there. You don't know what the situation is.
We just saw what happened in Minnesota. Sadly, think about
(25:46):
what happened when Salmon Rushty, as status pointing out, was
up on the stage speaking and the guy came up
with a knife and stabbed him right in the middle
of his address. You don't know what the intent is.
The Secret Service doesn't, the security guards don't of a
stranger who's advancing angrily on a speaker in the middle
(26:08):
of a press conference. I just I really don't understand
remotely how he is a victim in any way here,
and again, we haven't really talked about it very much
because we're actually dealing with very significant decisions as to
what the president should do in Iran. And I imagine
(26:28):
most of you who have paid attention to this at
all have felt basically the same way I do. Hey, look,
I'm not somebody who's gonna say every time a man
cries is unacceptable. You know, maybe your dog died, maybe
your favorite team just won a championship and their tears
(26:50):
of joy, but fake crying about that. Like, I don't
even believe that he is even that bubbled emotionally by
what happened to him. I really don't. And to show up,
what day was that Thursday? Those Thursday afternoon, right Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
(27:12):
Five days later, he takes to the Senate floor, and
he's still so overwhelmed by what happened to him on
Thursday that he's unable to restrain his emotions. I just
I don't buy it at all. And I would argue,
and in fact I do. This is my new book
(27:32):
that's coming out in November. I would argue that one
reason young men have so pivoted away from the Democrat
Party is strongly because of the way that people like
Padilla respond, Because it's fundamentally anti masculine to be crying
about a situation like this that you caused. And not
(27:54):
only is it not masculine, it's also dishonest and inauthentic.
I think what young men in particular see in Trump
is they don't agree with everything Trump does, but they
believe that he is authentic. And in my book, I
argue that the moment that bullet buzzed his ear in Butler, Pennsylvania,
(28:18):
and he stood up and said fight, fight, fight. In
that crucible moment, I think most men in America said
this is my guy, and I know a lot of
women did too, But I think uniquely for men in
a position of peril like that, you can argue it
was reckless, foolhardy, even for the President of the United States,
(28:40):
the running for president of the United States, former president
at the time, for him to stand up and pump
his fist in say fight, fight, fight, and let everybody
know he was okay. There could have been a second shooter.
It may have been a reckless thing for the president
to do. I bet the Secret Service in retrospect they
were like, man and you should have kept him down
(29:01):
behind that podium because the danger of exposing himself in
that manner right after the bullet buzzed his ear. But
in that moment, in that crucible moment of test, I
think he revealed his inner core, and it was exactly
(29:22):
the inner core that he had been telling us he
represented since he came down the escalator ten years ago.
You may not agree with everything the president does now
in his term, you shouldn't nobody should agree with everything
any political figure does. You should all think for yourself
and sometimes you should disagree. But for him in that
(29:43):
moment to have behaved that bravely, I think for the
election it was decided on that day. I really do
think for many men, that was the moment they said, Hey,
Trump's the guy, he's the dude, He's the man in
(30:03):
the arena, and he isn't faking it. And then you
contrast it with the Senator Padia thing crying five days
later on the Senate floor. They took me to my knees.
I ge't it's just so fake. And I think again,
authenticity is what young men, and I think most voters,
(30:26):
but young men in particular, are seeking because they feel
like they're lied to so much. And young men and
young women out there still dealing with the fact that
they were lied to so much about COVID. I think
there's a lot of anger. I think Trump channels that anger.
But I think the sheer balls that he showed on
that day in Butler, Pennsylvania won him the election. And
(30:49):
I think what Senator Padia is doing, they pushed me
to the ground. It's just so fake that everyone is
looking at him, and it's the antithesis of what Trump did.
We'll take some of your calls. By the way, we're
scheduled for a couple of guests. Third hour of the
program coming up. Senator Rampaul gonna join us and also
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the chairman of the FCC. He's got a lot of
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right now, not a bad place to be meeting with advertisers.
I wanted to play this for you elon Omar. She's
really upset that Israel is having success against Iran, and
she wanted to let you know that the United States
is actually an awful country.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Listen, I grew up in a dictatorship and I don't
even remember ever witnessing anything like that. To have a democracy,
a peacan of hope for the world to now be
turned into one of the you know, one of the
worst countries where the military are in our streets without
(34:25):
any regard for people's constitutional rights, while our president is
spending millions of dollars prompting himself up like a failed
dictator with a military parade. It is really shocking.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I mean, where's she from? Samalia? Is it Samalia that
elan Omar was originally from? I think that's right, team
you know, look it up. I can't remember for sure.
She grew up in Somalia. Now she thinks the United
States is worse. It's an interesting perspective. What about you
if I, presumably she's still a citizen of Samalia too.
(35:00):
If I had dual citizenship and I thought the country
that I'm in right now was worse than the country
I was a citizen of, I would go back to
the country that I used to be a citizen of.
I mean, is that crazy? Is that a wild take?
I mean, if you have dual citizenship and you truly
believed that the country you were in right now was
(35:20):
worse than the country that you grew up in, wouldn't
you go back to the country that you grew up in?
Yet they never do, do they? What's interesting Neil and Nomore.
Oh my gosh, the United States is the worst place ever.
She was born in Moga, Mogadishu, Somalia, so she's I presume,
(35:42):
still a citizen of Samalia. She could go back, she
could lend her substantial talents to the Somali government. She
would love it. It's better than here. Evidently, seems like
a good choice she could make. Yeah, she's not making it,
but it's really kind of intriguing. We're breaking down everything.
(36:03):
When we come back, Senator ram Paul is going to
join us from Kentucky with the absolute latest on what's
going on in Iran, what the United States should do,
but also the absolute latest on the Big Beautiful Bill.
He has been unhappy with the amount of money being
spent and wants there to be more cuts. We will
(36:25):
see what the latest is on the progress of the
Big Beautiful Bill. Was expected or hoped that it would
pass before July fourth, Is it on track to do that.
We will break down the absolute latest on the bill
with him and on Capitol Hill in general. I'll also
continue to play some of your talkbacks, some of your
calls eight hundred and two two two eight eight two
(36:47):
as we roll into the third hour and at the
bottom two thirty in studio here with me FCC Chairman
Brendan Carr should be interesting. All that more come in
your way final hour next
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