February 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Rush would have loved seeing what's happening today with Trump 2.0 (a longer Rush tribute can be found in the "After Hours" podcast in Clay and Buck podcast feed). Even when the market speaks to them, SNL doesn't change as evidenced by their 50th anniversary not-funny flop tribute. Trans activists take on Michael Knowles. Caller Marty talks trickle down Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us
here on this President's Day twenty twenty five. I know
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we wanted to make sure that we said it is
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the fourth anniversary of a date that I know has
been very hard for many of you. Rush Limbaugh died
four years ago today, and we wanted to make sure
that we honored his memory thirty three years of radio excellence,
the like of which has never existed in American history.
(01:27):
And there is a longer form clip from Rush that
is up in our podcast channel for those of you
who want to hear it. But we did want to
honor the legacy the memory of the man behind the
Golden microphone by acknowledging this four year anniversary of his passing.
This is from January ninth of twenty twenty, Rush talking
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about Trump versus the process oriented people of Washington, d C.
A conflict that is certainly continuing to play itself out.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
In the present moment. Listen to this from five years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The American people have gotten used to the snail's pace
of whatever objectives government or Washington has.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Trump is not of that world.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Trump is a results oriented guy, and he's up against
a bunch process people. Now, if both parties are engaged
in process as part of a campaign and trying to
win the day on who's the better at process, then
you've got a dull, boring campaign here. But when you've
got somebody demonstrably able to get results up against process people.
The process people don't have a prayer, and that's what
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they know.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That was Rush. In the twenty twenty era. January of
twenty twenty more Rush Legacy memory up as a part
of the Clay and buck podcast network. We certainly want
to acknowledge four years ago his passing and the tremendous
impact that he had in the world of this arena,
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and that want to reiterate as we have done and
said for years, I can't believe Bucket's been almost four
years that you and I have been talking every single
day with this audience. We do not take it for granted.
We fell immense gratitude and privilege to be able to
continue to fight many of the battles that Rush fought,
and we appreciate the fact that so many of you
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have continued to listen to us, and also that younger
people out there have continued to come into the fray,
as Rush would have wanted the case to be. In fact,
I imagine that Rush boy would he be excited about
how many young people in particular are taking up the
American flag and advancing it behind the arguments that Trump
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is winning with right now. He would be ecstatic to
see exactly what is happening. I'm sure he is watching
down and seeing it, but it is pretty incredible to
think about the legacy and its growth as Trump has
taken back in for two oh buck.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, and so we are gratified and deeply honored to
be trying to continue on the fights that Rush engaged
in for decades. And we've got more up at clanbuck
dot com and also in the clan Buck podcast feed.
We've pulled together special kind of a just a memory
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of Rush in podcast form on the four year passing,
So please go check that out in the clan Buck
podcast network.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So all of that certainly wanted to be on top
of we've been discussing the battle for free speech. I
wanted to play this cut for you, Buck because last
night was the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live and
I wanted to watch it. I thought, Hey, you know what,
They've got a huge, incredible number of celebrities that are
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coming out. Maybe they will put together a really well
done show. I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
I watched for about an hour and a half. I
turned to my wife, I said, I can't watch any
more of this. Tell me if anything actually funny happens,
I'm going to go and read and be doing prep.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
For this show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was reading, I think, catching up with the Wall
Street Journal in the New York Times weekend editions. And
I did see, however, in the part that I was
watching this skit, which was Tom Hanks suddenly shows up
and he is a Trump supporter. He's wearing a Make
America Great Again hat, and you need to watch the
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video because it was intentionally insulting to Trump voters.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I would play that audio for you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Saturday Night Live wonders why its ratings have collapsed and
it does not have the cultural cachet that it used to.
I would submit to you it's because they continue to
alienate over half of the country right now, listen, Oh well, thank.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You, hey, And I speaking to church.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Can I say something?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
If more folks went to church, we wouldn't be in
this mess wherein?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what I mean? Would you do? I'd like
to shake your hands, sir. Here we go. No no, no,
oh no, no, it's just a handsh you welcome to
thank you my mind by brother.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Now, maybe I'll start a show for you to come
on and we'll call it what Jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
We don't need it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We don't need it, Okay, so uh funny, mean and
mean spirited Clay. The original version of that sketch was
actually funny. It aired years ago, I don't know exactly when,
but they had Black Jeopardy was the was the you
know the title of the sketch. Tom Hanks was the
white guy, and there were a couple of other you know,
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black snl It was I forget the guy who's what's
the guy who's the who's playing the host there?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I forget his name? And Keenan Thompson.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Keenan Thompson, he's been on the show for like amore,
he've been there forever. So so he was on and
a couple of other black actors were on, and the
original one was actually funny because it wasn't mean spirited
and really what it was, you know, they asked some
you know those Black Jeopardy asked them questions and the
Trump supporter answer was something that the black community or
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members of the black community on the stage also agreed with.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
The It was things like they would say, you know,
what happens if so and soon's the selection he goes.
It doesn't matter because the uniparty runs it anyway, and
then all the you know, the black contestants are like
that's correct, like you know, and it actually was meant
to be funny. I think for everyone. That was one
of the more that's what's so disappointing, that was one
of the more popular recent black recent SNL sketches Black Jeopardy,
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and so to take it and then just do this
kind of nasty, punching down thing and make it seem
like the guy is clearly supposed to be a racist.
I mean, that's where you know, the yesso was supposed
to be a racist. It's hard, it's hard to understand
the mindset of some of these people who are supposed
to be comedians. At this point, you've basically taken most
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of the major comedy platforms that existed for you, you know,
your life and my life. I'm not talking about you know,
new Netflix specials and stuff. That's a new thing, right,
And Naperghatsy's blown up everywhere. He's fantastic, and there's all
these new comedians who actually are funny. You are doing
great stuff, but you look at you know SNL, The
Letterman Show, the What's the The Daily Show with Trevor Noah,
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least funny man that could have possible bear God forbid albar.
They've destroyed all of these legacy comedy platforms, including SNL.
SNL has been trash for the entirety of the Trump
era and really before that, but certainly for the last
ten years just trash. I'm just surprised you watch it,
but good for you on stomaching through some of it.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Are stomaching some of it.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And it's just a shame because they even when the
market speaks to them, they don't change, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And it's not only profoundly insulting. And let's also not
give Tom Hanks a pass here. Tom Hanks is supposed
to be this avuncular, incredibly likable everyman actor, and yet
he feels comfortable ridiculing every Trump supporter as a racist.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And this is actually the data.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
This was the media doesn't want to tell you by
at large, certainly not in the legacy media.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But this is important. The twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Election was the least racially polarized election in America since
nineteen sixty four. White black Asian Hispanic people have never
voted more similarly than we did in twenty twenty four.
Trump has the least racially polarized electoral majority since Lyndon
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Johnson in nineteen sixty four, pre Civil rights era votes.
So for most of you out there that are listening
to us right now, you have never lived in a
less racially polarized America than right now. As it pertains
the presidential election.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
This is also when when the data, I think, speaks
so clearly on what happened versus what the narrative is.
The usage of You've seen this Elon actually a while ago,
I think, even before he owns Twitter X. I remember
him commenting on this that the explosion in the usage
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of the terms racism, white supremacy, all this coincided with
Obama's election. The media, the media all of a sudden,
New York Times goes from using white supremacy like once
a year because I've never even met a white supremacist,
never seen a white SUPREMACIYT, never met a white supremacist,
I mean an actual white supremacist. And it goes from
you know, once a year they'll have some article till
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like every day I mean an absolute explosion, clearly intentional,
and to really use to manipulate the public and use
narratives about racism so that there couldn't be opposition to Obama.
Early on in the Obama administration, criticism of Obama, and
I mean I remember because I was one of those
people criticizing Obama was racist, and that was that they
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were happy to just leave it at that. Oh you
don't like Obama? Hmm, I wonder why you know? They
would play that game a lot Clay. Things have changed now.
People have seen that those who would use those tactics
are always arguing in bad faith and actually don't even
care what the government, what the results are from an administration.
They just want their team and they want to silence
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the other team, kind of like the German people knocking
on the doors.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's also on an SNL front, incredibly lazy humor. To
your point, the pointing out that people who are look
different actually have many of the same opinions is actually
somewhat of a unique take, at least from a comedic perspective,
ie that Trump supporters and black voters back in twenty
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fifteen actually overlapped on a lot of opinions, but they
didn't necessarily vote like it. By twenty twenty four, you
are seeing Hispanic, Black, Asian and white voters I recognizing
that we actually have more in common than we do apart.
And this is where the real panic is setting in Buck.
(12:19):
Some of these Trump approval numbers are starting to be
eye opening, even to me. I saw Buck a plus
twelve Trump approval numbers coming out recently, and I think
that's because much of what he's doing is not partisan
in nature.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's a lot of common sense. It's common sense. It's
sane versus insane, as we often talk about. I think
that's one of the guiding principles of the show, Sanity
versus insanity. Yes, in public policy and in the way
that we viewed, you know, things in day to day
life and Clay. This also goes to the sense of
what is the opposition They refuse to course correct you
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would see it if they if they were doing it.
They fuse to look at what happened in this election
and say, you know what, we need to change messaging
on because they've gotten so deep on something that's kind
of like the Margaret Brennan thing. This is what you
look at Margaret Brennan Clay with the same versus insane paradigm,
and you go, the Nazis weren't pro free speech, you lunatic, right.
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She looks at it and goes, this is I am
mouthing the preferred slogan. This is the narrative. The narrative
is mean words from the disapproved people from the disapproved
right causes genocide. That's all that. That's she just those
are the orders. She's orders to say that kind of crap,
Which is why I think it's a great question. Is
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she brainwashed or a moron? I don't think there's any
Maybe she could be a brainwashed moron. I guess she
could be both. But we'll take some of your calls
react to that. I just wanted to share that clip
with you because I do think it's going viral. And
last night was the fiftieth anniversary of SNL, and I
was hoping they would maybe be a little funny. Instead
they decided to tell you, hey, if you voted for Trump,
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you're a racist and you hate black people. That's you know,
Margaret Brennan, I mean to go to this point, she's
she went to UVA, which for somebody not from Virginia
is even more impressive.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Greade school, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But I mean, if you get into UVA from outside
of I know this because a lot of New Yorkers
wanted to go there, it's incredibly It's like getting the
U Michigan out of state incredibly hard. She was a
full bright scholar, she speaks fluent Arabic and uh yeah,
I mean I don't think she's dumb. I just think
she's just too deep into the machine to see what
the heck's really going on. Remember she was one of
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the moderators of one of the debates, too, right. This
is just I mean, this is where on a bigger,
larger front, Republicans have to be smarter about who they
allowed to moderate. Going see see for me, one of
the competent, one of the complicated. And I know we
we got to take take a pause here. But someone
like Rachel Mattow also not dumb. Is she actually Brent
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wash or she just pretending for the paycheck? That's what
that's I can't determine that with some of these libs
in the media at this point, who are not dumb,
but who say dumb things.
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Welcome back in my friends.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We're going to dive in a bit more here with
some of this free speech issues. Also over at the
Daily Wire, Michael Knowles had a really interesting exchange with
some LGBTQ plus activists. I don't know if this was
recent or if this is just an old clip that's resurfaced,
but it goes to what Clay and I were talking about.
When it comes to people who it doesn't matter what
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the it doesn't matter what's true. They've been told they
must believe something and so they will believe it and
you can't convince them otherwise. We're talking about policy issues here, right,
We're not talking about what the outer edge of the
universe may be. So we will dive into some of that.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate all
you hanging out with us. We were talking about Trump's
overall approval ratings skyrocketing. I saw him buck over the weekend,
and I'm gonna pull this up to make sure that
I get it right because it even made me like
do a double take. We mentioned Super Bowl Sunday, CBS
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came out with a poll that showed Trump plus six nationwide,
plus twenty with men. And we had a lot of
discussion last week about why Democrats are struggling in such
a significant fashion when it came to mail voters. But
I saw this over the weekend and it just made
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me kind of go wow. This is from RMG Research
and it's a fairly highly regarded poll. You know, they
value the polls to try to determine whether or not
they're right wing or left wing leaning. This is a
solid a solid poll Trump plus twelve job approval, fifty
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five percent approve, forty three percent disapprove. We've never seen
anything like these numbers for Trump in his entire political career.
He's never been this positive. Buck And I understand people
are like nervous about polls and everything else, but I
do think the storyline is consistent here now, just as
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a thought exercise, throwing this out to you and to
everyone right now, what would be the thing if you're
going to disapprove of Trump based on something he has
done since becoming president, what.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Would that thing be? When you look at what the
focus has been. These are at least sixty forty issues,
you know, give or take a few points, but these
are solid majority issues. And for the people who see
it that way, I absolutely do not care how much
they scream like Banshee's in DC when people from DOGE
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are finding the waste, fraud and abuse, right you just
it's not like they have a point of view and
I have a point of view. It is like, no,
if you think wasting hundreds of billions of dollars of
tax payer money is a good thing, I don't care
what you think on the issue, you're you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think the only thing I can think of, buck
that Trump has really done in a month that could
be a fifty to fifty or maybe even under fifty
to fifty proposition is birthright citizenship. And to a large extent,
I think that's because most people have just not considered
birthright citizenship. In other words, the Overton window has been
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opened up in many ways, and people are saying, well,
why do we do this for me? You know, I
did research and wrote about it my most recent book,
and so I think most people have really not thought
about it. But to your point, that's the only one,
and that's traditional politics. I don't have a problem. We
got Sometimes you need to advocate for think four things
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that the Jordi doesn't believe in, because you're right and
you think you can convince them of the rightness of this.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yes, sometimes sometimes there are issues. I mean, the one
that we ever always jumps, who is like, well, what
should the federal First of all, I think there should
be no income tax. That's a crazy idea, is that up?
But Trump likes it too. But you know, there's going
to be some things where you've just got to set
a boundary. To set a boundary, you got to set
the line, and you can debate the line, and that's fine.
There's no debate to be had on should violent gang
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members convicted of serious crimes who have no right to
be in the United States continue to stay here and
enjoy status as somebody who gets access to this beautiful,
wonderful country of ours. Absolutely not that it's not a
reasonable position, and be like, you know what, I think
the MS thirteen hit man that's already served fifteen years
for manslaughter, I think we shouldn't deport him. If you
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think that, you're unreasonable, You're crazy. I don't care what
your opinion is. Same thing with the Doge fraud stuff.
If you think that people who are dead should be
getting Social Security payments, I don't know what to say
to that person. Why would that? Why does that make
any sense? I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And the reason I gave that prelude is I wanted
to play this. Our friend Michael Knowles over at The
Daily Wire had a debate argument set up with LBGTQ
plus activists, in particular over whether men should be involved
in women's sports, which Buck is a great example of
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something that is a eighty twenty issue now nationwide according
to the New York Times polls, that much of public
opinion has moved in. I would say common sense direction.
This is an argument I believe we have won this
show OutKick people like Riley Gaines Paula Scanlon speaking out
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after the Leah Thomas ridiculousness of a man pretending to
be a woman winning a women's NCAA championship, which, by
the way, should be stripped from him and given to
the woman who finished in second place. Frankly, I don't
even think that's a difficult call. But here they are arguing,
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and one of the things you'll hear, this happens all
the time, that doesn't That's what they argued with me
for a long time over this, Well, that doesn't happen
so much, very often. I don't know why you care.
And then Michael Knowles immediately comes back with the hard
data on how often it does happen, and you'll see
the immediate pivot in the argument. It takes about twenty
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five seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Listen, let us transgenderism and public look like to.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
You, it's allowing men to be treated for the purposes
of the law as women. It's men taking nine hundred
sports trophies from women.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
In recent years. And they didn't take nine.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
They took nine hundred. This report just came out from
the United Nations. Actually eight hundred and ninety trophies and
medals across six hundred women who were competing competitors across
twenty nine different sports and four hundred competitions that came
out like yesterday, and they deserve them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It didn't happen and they deserve them. Okay, that is
the logic I hear from the pro transcrapt Knowles hailed
it perfectly. I just I just want to say this man.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That is the Democrat mindset, that of the true believers
distilled into one SoundBite. You're lying, it's not happening, and
if it is happening, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It is happening. Oh, I'm glad. This is the approach.
This is the approach to everything. The why do you care?
Is the number?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Is the first argument, Right, why do you care? It's
not happening? Why do you care? It's happening and it's
a good thing. And my answer to that, because some
of you may get this argument, my answer to that
is I care because I believe in fairness of competition.
That's the very foundation of competition in general.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I'll just tell you I actually the way I see it,
on the spectrum, we can sort of debate this, but
I think it's flat denial, which is what that that
woman did. And I'm assuming her gender. I think it's
a woman. I don't know, but based only that's accurate.
It is a woman so far as we can tell,
as far as I know identify as a woman.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It isn't happening.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And then it goes to, uh, it is, it is happening,
but not that much.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Why do you care?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, right, like like you're exaggerating. Oh, it's it's just
a few, it's just a few transactletes. It's just a
few people. Why do you care so much? And then
they transition to yeah, it's happening all the time, and
it's a good thing, and the same. It's not that
the argument moves sort of this vague sense. A person
who will tell you the first thing will then tell
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you the second, will then tell you the third, and
you can show them the clips of themselves and they're like, yeah,
it's just like it's just like what what communists always do,
which is the argument is all in favor of what
they want. It doesn't matter what's actually happening.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I think it goes to why is Trump's approval
rating going up all over the country because most of
what he's doing is not particularly partisan. In fact, do
we have the audio of I think it's worth playing
the audio out there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Did you hear.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Obama and Biden saying, Hey, we've got to go find
all of the different all of the different wasteful spending
and fraud that exists in the United States government. Let
me play this cut for you. We can react to it,
and we come back in a little bit. Here Buck,
this is Obama and then Vice President Joe Biden talking
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about the need to cut the budget and find all
the fraud there.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
This was just about a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Now it's controversial when Elon does it, but back when
Obama and Biden were in charge, it was just good governance.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Listen to cuttle.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Budget reform is not an option, it's a necessity.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
The American people are entitled to transparency.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
We can't sustain a system that bleeds billions of taxpayer
dollars on programs that have outlived their usefulness or exist
solely because of the power of politicians, lobbyists, or interest groups.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
They're entitally being able to figure out where their dollars
are going, and they're entitled to accountability to make sure
that we're using the dollars for what we said it
was for.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We are going to go through our federal budget as
I promised during the campaign, page by page, line by line,
eliminating those programs we don't need, and insisting that those
that we do need operate in a sensible, cost effective way.
It should be easy is getting rid of the pointless
waste and stupid spending that doesn't benefit anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We hope to be.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Instilling an entire new culture that not only our administration,
but every succeeding administration will in fact pursue.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No amount of waste is acceptable, not when it's your money.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
This was a decade ago conventional wisdom, not considered to
be remotely political. You could basically put those quotes in
Elon Musk's mouth right now, and he is saying the
exact same thing that Barack Obama and Joe Biden said
just about a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Well, but this is also because it's it's a clear
majority issue, meaning even Democrats know that on those things,
on things like just wasting taxpayers, straight up wasting tax
payer dollars, and we're not talking about the USAID thing.
Should we be funding you know, I mean, I think
that's a waste. But there's different degrees of waste. Right,
there's funding the transgender puppet shows in ulan Bator, and
(29:32):
then there's sending hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of
dollars to fraud rings in like the former Soviet Republic
and in Southeast Asia for Medicare payments that never org
Medicare Medicaid payments that never should have gone out. Like,
it's not possible to make an argument in favor of
that stuff, clay right, No one would ever do that. However,
(29:55):
Democrats also know that when Obama and Biden, when they
say that stuff, it's just words. It's words to fool
the normies, it's words to make the Democrats seem like
normis when really they're going to pursue the objectives that
we've seen over the last decade. Just like on the border,
by the way, you listen to stuff that the deporter
in chief. You listen what Obama says on the border,
and if you say that stuff now to a lot
(30:16):
of Democrats, I mean basically any true believer Democrat, they
say that you're like a xenophobic, racist maniac. I could
take a transcript of Obama on the border from his
first term, Clay, and if I went on, you know,
I'm trying to of what left wing shows.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Can I even go on these days? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I went on, there we go, thank you. If I
went on the view, I don't think Sonny Hostain would
like what I had to say about immigration. Using Obama's
exact words from a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Would actually be a great test, just to go on
and just memorize exactly what he said.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Say, I'm back.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
There's probably a video of her talking about how much
common sense it was. Then, by the way, you mentioned
that in the third hour, we should dive into the
border completely shut down. Tom Hollman is doing any credible job?
Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, everybody is get the border shut down.
It's basically not a story already, you know, to talk about, oh,
(31:09):
what has Trump done in less than a month. We're
gonna hit you with some of these numbers. We come
back in the third hour here in a little bit,
and I saw Bill Malugin, who, by the way, I said,
should be you know, order shirtless swimsuit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, I'm all about ratings. Put him in a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Let him stand there, maybe a knee deep in the
in the Rio grand and I think numbers would go
up in a big way.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He tweeted.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You can't even find an illegal immigrant crossing the southern
border right now. Remember you used to be able to
just take a camera and you could see the caravan
coming right across the border. The border is completely shut
down without any congressional act. One of the big lies
they all told us Buck was and some Republicans went
along with this. Oh yes, we can't solve the border
(31:56):
without congress acting. Trump got his pen, they got to pay.
He signed all those executive orders, and suddenly the border
is completely closed again. We'll talk about it in a
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Speaker 5 (33:29):
We got a.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Great call here from Marty in Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
H Marty, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Hey, so Marty, we are I'm Marty. I'm a little
rattled here, coming in off of a flight from Sydney, Australia.
We're here to tell you that we Trump has so
many supporters it's now fashionable. They can say it out loud,
and they're out loud and proud Trump is in the
(33:59):
league because they know that in America, whatever goes on
here it trickles down to them.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And Marty are Marty just so unclear? You're you're telling
us that Trump is big in the land down under.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Oh, yes he is.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
There's a few haters, but you know you can't change
their mind. They're gonna hate. Uh, So we have to
show them the other side. And that's what we do.
We walk around like walking billboards. We have our Trump
hat on. It's amazing, I'm telling you amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So you this is this is great.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I went to Australia about what a year and a
half ago or so last last I guess it was
last Christmas, and I found that there were a lot
of Trump supporters there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Marty.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm curious. You said you went with a bunch of grandmothers.
I hope your trip was fabulous, because it is a
beautiful country. But I have found that and this is
what we were talking about earlier, Buck, many people in
other countries. There's a lot Canadians listening to us right now.
There's a lot of Europeans that agree with a lot
of what Trump is doing as well. They don't have
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political leaders that are saying what Trump is saying. And
so to your point, Marty, they're actually looking to the
United States as a great beacon of freedom because they
can't find it in their own country.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Excellent, that's a perfect description. Perfect And I'm gonna tell
you no, we go as snapping Granny's there's two of us.
We've been doing this for nine years when it was
not fashionable. Stand for Trump. We stand by that man,
We stand by all that's going on, and we are
so proud that once again maybe our voices can be
(35:43):
heard again.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Thank you for the call. We're glad you made it
back safe. It's a beautiful country. I loved my time
in Australia, but Buck, I hear from a lot of
these Australians. I hear from a lot of Canadians English
language speakers, in particular in England certainly that their leadership
won't advocate for them in a way that Trump is
(36:07):
advocating for Americans here, and so they look to him
not only as a beacon of light for what he's
doing in America, but as hopefully an inspiration to lead
leaders in other Western speaking, Western civilized English speaking countries
to lead the charge.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
And we get a sense of how much that is
needed right now considering the hits that freedom is taking
in Canada, in Australia, in Great Britain, a lot of
places that need a reminder about the greatness and their
role in the greatness of Western civilization with freedom at
the core of it all. We are going to dive
into this and more on Doge and Clay's going to
(36:47):
talk about the Daytona five hundred with Trump and other
great things in the third Hour, which is coming up
Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us
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we wanted to make sure that we said it is
(01:07):
the fourth anniversary of a date that I know has
been very hard for many of you. Rush Limbaugh died
four years ago today, and we wanted to make sure
that we honored his memory thirty three years of radio excellence,
the like of which has never existed in American history.
(01:27):
And there is a longer form clip from Rush that
is up in our podcast channel for those of you
who want to hear it. But we did want to
honor the legacy the memory of the man behind the
Golden microphone by acknowledging this four year anniversary of his passing.
This is from January ninth of twenty twenty, Rush talking
(01:51):
about Trump versus the process oriented people of Washington, d C.
A conflict that is certainly continuing to play itself out.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
In the present moment. Listen to this from five years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The American people have gotten used to the snail's pace
of whatever objectives government or Washington has.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Trump is not of that world.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Trump is a results oriented guy, and he's up against
a bunch process people. Now, if both parties are engaged
in process as part of a campaign and trying to
win the day on who's the better at process, then
you've got a dull, boring campaign here. But when you've
got somebody demonstrably able to get results up against process people.
The process people don't have a prayer, and that's what
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they know.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That was Rush. In the twenty twenty era. January of
twenty twenty more Rush Legacy memory up as a part
of the Clay and buck podcast network. We certainly want
to acknowledge four years ago his passing and the tremendous
impact that he had in the world of this arena,
(03:01):
and that want to reiterate as we have done and
said for years, I can't believe Bucket's been almost four
years that you and I have been talking every single
day with this audience. We do not take it for granted.
We fell immense gratitude and privilege to be able to
continue to fight many of the battles that Rush fought,
and we appreciate the fact that so many of you
(03:22):
have continued to listen to us, and also that younger
people out there have continued to come into the fray,
as Rush would have wanted the case to be. In fact,
I imagine that Rush boy would he be excited about
how many young people in particular are taking up the
American flag and advancing it behind the arguments that Trump
(03:46):
is winning with right now. He would be ecstatic to
see exactly what is happening. I'm sure he is watching
down and seeing it, but it is pretty incredible to
think about the legacy and its growth as Trump has
taken back in for two oh buck.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, and so we are gratified and deeply honored to
be trying to continue on the fights that Rush engaged
in for decades. And we've got more up at clanbuck
dot com and also in the clan Buck podcast feed.
We've pulled together special kind of a just a memory
(04:24):
of Rush in podcast form on the four year passing,
So please go check that out in the clan Buck
podcast network.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So all of that certainly wanted to be on top
of we've been discussing the battle for free speech. I
wanted to play this cut for you, Buck because last
night was the fiftieth anniversary of Saturday Night Live and
I wanted to watch it. I thought, Hey, you know what,
They've got a huge, incredible number of celebrities that are
(04:51):
coming out. Maybe they will put together a really well
done show. I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
I watched for about an hour and a half. I
turned to my wife, I said, I can't watch any
more of this. Tell me if anything actually funny happens,
I'm going to go and read and be doing prep.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
For this show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I was reading, I think, catching up with the Wall
Street Journal in the New York Times weekend editions. And
I did see, however, in the part that I was
watching this skit, which was Tom Hanks suddenly shows up
and he is a Trump supporter. He's wearing a Make
America Great Again hat, and you need to watch the
(05:29):
video because it was intentionally insulting to Trump voters.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I would play that audio for you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Saturday Night Live wonders why its ratings have collapsed and
it does not have the cultural cachet that it used to.
I would submit to you it's because they continue to
alienate over half of the country right now, listen, Oh well, thank.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You, hey, And I speaking to church.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Can I say something?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
If more folks went to church, we wouldn't be in
this mess wherein?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know what I mean? Would you do? I'd like
to shake your hands, sir. Here we go. No no, no,
oh no, no, it's just a handsh you welcome to
thank you my mind by brother.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Now, maybe I'll start a show for you to come
on and we'll call it what Jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
We don't need it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
We don't need it, Okay, so uh funny, mean and
mean spirited Clay. The original version of that sketch was
actually funny. It aired years ago, I don't know exactly when,
but they had Black Jeopardy was the was the you
know the title of the sketch. Tom Hanks was the
white guy, and there were a couple of other you know,
(06:41):
black snl It was I forget the guy who's what's
the guy who's the who's playing the host there?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I forget his name? And Keenan Thompson.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Keenan Thompson, he's been on the show for like amore,
he've been there forever. So so he was on and
a couple of other black actors were on, and the
original one was actually funny because it wasn't mean spirited
and really what it was, you know, they asked some
you know those Black Jeopardy asked them questions and the
Trump supporter answer was something that the black community or
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members of the black community on the stage also agreed with.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
The It was things like they would say, you know,
what happens if so and soon's the selection he goes.
It doesn't matter because the uniparty runs it anyway, and
then all the you know, the black contestants are like
that's correct, like you know, and it actually was meant
to be funny. I think for everyone. That was one
of the more that's what's so disappointing, that was one
of the more popular recent black recent SNL sketches Black Jeopardy,
(07:41):
and so to take it and then just do this
kind of nasty, punching down thing and make it seem
like the guy is clearly supposed to be a racist.
I mean, that's where you know, the yesso was supposed
to be a racist. It's hard, it's hard to understand
the mindset of some of these people who are supposed
to be comedians. At this point, you've basically taken most
(08:01):
of the major comedy platforms that existed for you, you know,
your life and my life. I'm not talking about you know,
new Netflix specials and stuff. That's a new thing, right,
And Naperghatsy's blown up everywhere. He's fantastic, and there's all
these new comedians who actually are funny. You are doing
great stuff, but you look at you know SNL, The
Letterman Show, the What's the The Daily Show with Trevor Noah,
(08:26):
least funny man that could have possible bear God forbid albar.
They've destroyed all of these legacy comedy platforms, including SNL.
SNL has been trash for the entirety of the Trump
era and really before that, but certainly for the last
ten years just trash. I'm just surprised you watch it,
but good for you on stomaching through some of it.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Are stomaching some of it.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And it's just a shame because they even when the
market speaks to them, they don't change, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And it's not only profoundly insulting. And let's also not
give Tom Hanks a pass here. Tom Hanks is supposed
to be this avuncular, incredibly likable everyman actor, and yet
he feels comfortable ridiculing every Trump supporter as a racist.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And this is actually the data.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
This was the media doesn't want to tell you by
at large, certainly not in the legacy media.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But this is important. The twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Election was the least racially polarized election in America since
nineteen sixty four. White black Asian Hispanic people have never
voted more similarly than we did in twenty twenty four.
Trump has the least racially polarized electoral majority since Lyndon
(09:49):
Johnson in nineteen sixty four, pre Civil rights era votes.
So for most of you out there that are listening
to us right now, you have never lived in a
less racially polarized America than right now. As it pertains
the presidential election.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
This is also when when the data, I think, speaks
so clearly on what happened versus what the narrative is.
The usage of You've seen this Elon actually a while ago,
I think, even before he owns Twitter X. I remember
him commenting on this that the explosion in the usage
(10:29):
of the terms racism, white supremacy, all this coincided with
Obama's election. The media, the media all of a sudden,
New York Times goes from using white supremacy like once
a year because I've never even met a white supremacist,
never seen a white SUPREMACIYT, never met a white supremacist,
I mean an actual white supremacist. And it goes from
you know, once a year they'll have some article till
(10:51):
like every day I mean an absolute explosion, clearly intentional,
and to really use to manipulate the public and use
narratives about racism so that there couldn't be opposition to Obama.
Early on in the Obama administration, criticism of Obama, and
I mean I remember because I was one of those
people criticizing Obama was racist, and that was that they
(11:11):
were happy to just leave it at that. Oh you
don't like Obama? Hmm, I wonder why you know? They
would play that game a lot Clay. Things have changed now.
People have seen that those who would use those tactics
are always arguing in bad faith and actually don't even
care what the government, what the results are from an administration.
They just want their team and they want to silence
(11:32):
the other team, kind of like the German people knocking
on the doors.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's also on an SNL front, incredibly lazy humor. To
your point, the pointing out that people who are look
different actually have many of the same opinions is actually
somewhat of a unique take, at least from a comedic perspective,
ie that Trump supporters and black voters back in twenty
(11:59):
fifteen actually overlapped on a lot of opinions, but they
didn't necessarily vote like it. By twenty twenty four, you
are seeing Hispanic, Black, Asian and white voters I recognizing
that we actually have more in common than we do apart.
And this is where the real panic is setting in Buck.
(12:19):
Some of these Trump approval numbers are starting to be
eye opening, even to me. I saw Buck a plus
twelve Trump approval numbers coming out recently, and I think
that's because much of what he's doing is not partisan
in nature.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It's a lot of common sense. It's common sense. It's
sane versus insane, as we often talk about. I think
that's one of the guiding principles of the show, Sanity
versus insanity. Yes, in public policy and in the way
that we viewed, you know, things in day to day
life and Clay. This also goes to the sense of
what is the opposition They refuse to course correct you
(12:56):
would see it if they if they were doing it.
They fuse to look at what happened in this election
and say, you know what, we need to change messaging
on because they've gotten so deep on something that's kind
of like the Margaret Brennan thing. This is what you
look at Margaret Brennan Clay with the same versus insane paradigm,
and you go, the Nazis weren't pro free speech, you lunatic, right.
(13:21):
She looks at it and goes, this is I am
mouthing the preferred slogan. This is the narrative. The narrative
is mean words from the disapproved people from the disapproved
right causes genocide. That's all that. That's she just those
are the orders. She's orders to say that kind of crap,
Which is why I think it's a great question. Is
(13:42):
she brainwashed or a moron? I don't think there's any
Maybe she could be a brainwashed moron. I guess she
could be both. But we'll take some of your calls
react to that. I just wanted to share that clip
with you because I do think it's going viral. And
last night was the fiftieth anniversary of SNL, and I
was hoping they would maybe be a little funny. Instead
they decided to tell you, hey, if you voted for Trump,
(14:03):
you're a racist and you hate black people. That's you know,
Margaret Brennan, I mean to go to this point, she's
she went to UVA, which for somebody not from Virginia
is even more impressive.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Greade school, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But I mean, if you get into UVA from outside
of I know this because a lot of New Yorkers
wanted to go there, it's incredibly It's like getting the
U Michigan out of state incredibly hard. She was a
full bright scholar, she speaks fluent Arabic and uh yeah,
I mean I don't think she's dumb. I just think
she's just too deep into the machine to see what
the heck's really going on. Remember she was one of
(14:36):
the moderators of one of the debates, too, right. This
is just I mean, this is where on a bigger,
larger front, Republicans have to be smarter about who they
allowed to moderate. Going see see for me, one of
the competent, one of the complicated. And I know we
we got to take take a pause here. But someone
like Rachel Mattow also not dumb. Is she actually Brent
(14:57):
wash or she just pretending for the paycheck? That's what
that's I can't determine that with some of these libs
in the media at this point, who are not dumb,
but who say dumb things.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
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Welcome back in my friends.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We're going to dive in a bit more here with
some of this free speech issues. Also over at the
Daily Wire, Michael Knowles had a really interesting exchange with
some LGBTQ plus activists. I don't know if this was
recent or if this is just an old clip that's resurfaced,
but it goes to what Clay and I were talking about.
When it comes to people who it doesn't matter what
(17:31):
the it doesn't matter what's true. They've been told they
must believe something and so they will believe it and
you can't convince them otherwise. We're talking about policy issues here, right,
We're not talking about what the outer edge of the
universe may be. So we will dive into some of that.
Also more on doge, so we shall discuss. But last
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate all
you hanging out with us. We were talking about Trump's
overall approval ratings skyrocketing. I saw him buck over the weekend,
and I'm gonna pull this up to make sure that
I get it right because it even made me like
do a double take. We mentioned Super Bowl Sunday, CBS
(19:19):
came out with a poll that showed Trump plus six nationwide,
plus twenty with men. And we had a lot of
discussion last week about why Democrats are struggling in such
a significant fashion when it came to mail voters. But
I saw this over the weekend and it just made
(19:40):
me kind of go wow. This is from RMG Research
and it's a fairly highly regarded poll. You know, they
value the polls to try to determine whether or not
they're right wing or left wing leaning. This is a
solid a solid poll Trump plus twelve job approval, fifty
(20:03):
five percent approve, forty three percent disapprove. We've never seen
anything like these numbers for Trump in his entire political career.
He's never been this positive. Buck And I understand people
are like nervous about polls and everything else, but I
do think the storyline is consistent here now, just as
(20:24):
a thought exercise, throwing this out to you and to
everyone right now, what would be the thing if you're
going to disapprove of Trump based on something he has
done since becoming president, what.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Would that thing be? When you look at what the
focus has been. These are at least sixty forty issues,
you know, give or take a few points, but these
are solid majority issues. And for the people who see
it that way, I absolutely do not care how much
they scream like Banshee's in DC when people from DOGE
(21:01):
are finding the waste, fraud and abuse, right you just
it's not like they have a point of view and
I have a point of view. It is like, no,
if you think wasting hundreds of billions of dollars of
tax payer money is a good thing, I don't care
what you think on the issue, you're you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think the only thing I can think of, buck
that Trump has really done in a month that could
be a fifty to fifty or maybe even under fifty
to fifty proposition is birthright citizenship. And to a large extent,
I think that's because most people have just not considered
birthright citizenship. In other words, the Overton window has been
(21:38):
opened up in many ways, and people are saying, well,
why do we do this for me? You know, I
did research and wrote about it my most recent book,
and so I think most people have really not thought
about it. But to your point, that's the only one,
and that's traditional politics. I don't have a problem. We
got Sometimes you need to advocate for think four things
(21:59):
that the Jordi doesn't believe in, because you're right and
you think you can convince them of the rightness of this.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yes, sometimes sometimes there are issues. I mean, the one
that we ever always jumps, who is like, well, what
should the federal First of all, I think there should
be no income tax. That's a crazy idea, is that up?
But Trump likes it too. But you know, there's going
to be some things where you've just got to set
a boundary. To set a boundary, you got to set
the line, and you can debate the line, and that's fine.
There's no debate to be had on should violent gang
(22:27):
members convicted of serious crimes who have no right to
be in the United States continue to stay here and
enjoy status as somebody who gets access to this beautiful,
wonderful country of ours. Absolutely not that it's not a
reasonable position, and be like, you know what, I think
the MS thirteen hit man that's already served fifteen years
for manslaughter, I think we shouldn't deport him. If you
(22:49):
think that, you're unreasonable, You're crazy. I don't care what
your opinion is. Same thing with the Doge fraud stuff.
If you think that people who are dead should be
getting Social Security payments, I don't know what to say
to that person. Why would that? Why does that make
any sense? I think that's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And the reason I gave that prelude is I wanted
to play this. Our friend Michael Knowles over at The
Daily Wire had a debate argument set up with LBGTQ
plus activists, in particular over whether men should be involved
in women's sports, which Buck is a great example of
(23:28):
something that is a eighty twenty issue now nationwide according
to the New York Times polls, that much of public
opinion has moved in. I would say common sense direction.
This is an argument I believe we have won this
show OutKick people like Riley Gaines Paula Scanlon speaking out
(23:48):
after the Leah Thomas ridiculousness of a man pretending to
be a woman winning a women's NCAA championship, which, by
the way, should be stripped from him and given to
the woman who finished in second place. Frankly, I don't
even think that's a difficult call. But here they are arguing,
(24:09):
and one of the things you'll hear, this happens all
the time, that doesn't That's what they argued with me
for a long time over this, Well, that doesn't happen
so much, very often. I don't know why you care.
And then Michael Knowles immediately comes back with the hard
data on how often it does happen, and you'll see
the immediate pivot in the argument. It takes about twenty
(24:30):
five seconds.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Listen, let us transgenderism and public look like to.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
You, it's allowing men to be treated for the purposes
of the law as women. It's men taking nine hundred
sports trophies from women.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
In recent years. And they didn't take nine.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
They took nine hundred. This report just came out from
the United Nations. Actually eight hundred and ninety trophies and
medals across six hundred women who were competing competitors across
twenty nine different sports and four hundred competitions that came
out like yesterday, and they deserve them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It didn't happen and they deserve them. Okay, that is
the logic I hear from the pro transcrapt Knowles hailed
it perfectly. I just I just want to say this man.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That is the Democrat mindset, that of the true believers
distilled into one SoundBite. You're lying, it's not happening, and
if it is happening, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It is happening. Oh, I'm glad. This is the approach.
This is the approach to everything. The why do you care?
Is the number?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Is the first argument, Right, why do you care? It's
not happening? Why do you care? It's happening and it's
a good thing. And my answer to that, because some
of you may get this argument, my answer to that
is I care because I believe in fairness of competition.
That's the very foundation of competition in general.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I'll just tell you I actually the way I see it,
on the spectrum, we can sort of debate this, but
I think it's flat denial, which is what that that
woman did. And I'm assuming her gender. I think it's
a woman. I don't know, but based only that's accurate.
It is a woman so far as we can tell,
as far as I know identify as a woman.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It isn't happening.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And then it goes to, uh, it is, it is happening,
but not that much.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Why do you care?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, right, like like you're exaggerating. Oh, it's it's just
a few, it's just a few transactletes. It's just a
few people. Why do you care so much? And then
they transition to yeah, it's happening all the time, and
it's a good thing, and the same. It's not that
the argument moves sort of this vague sense. A person
who will tell you the first thing will then tell
(26:38):
you the second, will then tell you the third, and
you can show them the clips of themselves and they're like, yeah,
it's just like it's just like what what communists always do,
which is the argument is all in favor of what
they want. It doesn't matter what's actually happening.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
That's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And I think it goes to why is Trump's approval
rating going up all over the country because most of
what he's doing is not particularly partisan. In fact, do
we have the audio of I think it's worth playing
the audio out there.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Did you hear.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Obama and Biden saying, Hey, we've got to go find
all of the different all of the different wasteful spending
and fraud that exists in the United States government. Let
me play this cut for you. We can react to it,
and we come back in a little bit. Here Buck,
this is Obama and then Vice President Joe Biden talking
(27:32):
about the need to cut the budget and find all
the fraud there.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
This was just about a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Now it's controversial when Elon does it, but back when
Obama and Biden were in charge, it was just good governance.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Listen to cuttle.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Budget reform is not an option, it's a necessity.
Speaker 9 (27:49):
The American people are entitled to transparency.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
We can't sustain a system that bleeds billions of taxpayer
dollars on programs that have outlived their usefulness or exist
solely because of the power of politicians, lobbyists, or interest groups.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
They're entitally being able to figure out where their dollars
are going, and they're entitled to accountability to make sure
that we're using the dollars for what we said it
was for.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We are going to go through our federal budget as
I promised during the campaign, page by page, line by line,
eliminating those programs we don't need, and insisting that those
that we do need operate in a sensible, cost effective way.
It should be easy is getting rid of the pointless
waste and stupid spending that doesn't benefit anybody.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We hope to be.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Instilling an entire new culture that not only our administration,
but every succeeding administration will in fact pursue.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No amount of waste is acceptable, not when it's your money.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Fuck.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
This was a decade ago conventional wisdom, not considered to
be remotely political. You could basically put those quotes in
Elon Musk's mouth right now, and he is saying the
exact same thing that Barack Obama and Joe Biden said
just about a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Well, but this is also because it's it's a clear
majority issue, meaning even Democrats know that on those things,
on things like just wasting taxpayers, straight up wasting tax
payer dollars, and we're not talking about the USAID thing.
Should we be funding you know, I mean, I think
that's a waste. But there's different degrees of waste. Right,
there's funding the transgender puppet shows in ulan Bator, and
(29:32):
then there's sending hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of
dollars to fraud rings in like the former Soviet Republic
and in Southeast Asia for Medicare payments that never org
Medicare Medicaid payments that never should have gone out. Like,
it's not possible to make an argument in favor of
that stuff, clay right, No one would ever do that. However,
(29:55):
Democrats also know that when Obama and Biden, when they
say that stuff, it's just words. It's words to fool
the normies, it's words to make the Democrats seem like
normis when really they're going to pursue the objectives that
we've seen over the last decade. Just like on the border,
by the way, you listen to stuff that the deporter
in chief. You listen what Obama says on the border,
and if you say that stuff now to a lot
(30:16):
of Democrats, I mean basically any true believer Democrat, they
say that you're like a xenophobic, racist maniac. I could
take a transcript of Obama on the border from his
first term, Clay, and if I went on, you know,
I'm trying to of what left wing shows.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Can I even go on these days? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I went on, there we go, thank you. If I
went on the view, I don't think Sonny Hostain would
like what I had to say about immigration. Using Obama's
exact words from a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Would actually be a great test, just to go on
and just memorize exactly what he said.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Say, I'm back.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
There's probably a video of her talking about how much
common sense it was. Then, by the way, you mentioned
that in the third hour, we should dive into the
border completely shut down. Tom Hollman is doing any credible job?
Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, everybody is get the border shut down.
It's basically not a story already, you know, to talk about, oh,
(31:09):
what has Trump done in less than a month. We're
gonna hit you with some of these numbers. We come
back in the third hour here in a little bit,
and I saw Bill Malugin, who, by the way, I said,
should be you know, order shirtless swimsuit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, I'm all about ratings. Put him in a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Let him stand there, maybe a knee deep in the
in the Rio grand and I think numbers would go
up in a big way.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He tweeted.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You can't even find an illegal immigrant crossing the southern
border right now. Remember you used to be able to
just take a camera and you could see the caravan
coming right across the border. The border is completely shut
down without any congressional act. One of the big lies
they all told us Buck was and some Republicans went
along with this. Oh yes, we can't solve the border
(31:56):
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He signed all those executive orders, and suddenly the border
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Speaker 5 (33:29):
We got a.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Great call here from Marty in Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
H Marty, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Hey, so Marty, we are I'm Marty. I'm a little
rattled here, coming in off of a flight from Sydney, Australia.
We're here to tell you that we Trump has so
many supporters it's now fashionable. They can say it out loud,
and they're out loud and proud Trump is in the
(33:59):
league because they know that in America, whatever goes on
here it trickles down to them.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And Marty are Marty just so unclear? You're you're telling
us that Trump is big in the land down under.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Oh, yes he is.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
There's a few haters, but you know you can't change
their mind. They're gonna hate. Uh, So we have to
show them the other side. And that's what we do.
We walk around like walking billboards. We have our Trump
hat on. It's amazing, I'm telling you amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So you this is this is great.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I went to Australia about what a year and a
half ago or so last last I guess it was
last Christmas, and I found that there were a lot
of Trump supporters there.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Marty.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I'm curious. You said you went with a bunch of grandmothers.
I hope your trip was fabulous, because it is a
beautiful country. But I have found that and this is
what we were talking about earlier, Buck, many people in
other countries. There's a lot Canadians listening to us right now.
There's a lot of Europeans that agree with a lot
of what Trump is doing as well. They don't have
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political leaders that are saying what Trump is saying. And
so to your point, Marty, they're actually looking to the
United States as a great beacon of freedom because they
can't find it in their own country.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Excellent, that's a perfect description. Perfect And I'm gonna tell
you no, we go as snapping Granny's there's two of us.
We've been doing this for nine years when it was
not fashionable. Stand for Trump. We stand by that man,
We stand by all that's going on, and we are
so proud that once again maybe our voices can be
(35:43):
heard again.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Thank you for the call. We're glad you made it
back safe. It's a beautiful country. I loved my time
in Australia, but Buck, I hear from a lot of
these Australians. I hear from a lot of Canadians English
language speakers, in particular in England certainly that their leadership
won't advocate for them in a way that Trump is
(36:07):
advocating for Americans here, and so they look to him
not only as a beacon of light for what he's
doing in America, but as hopefully an inspiration to lead
leaders in other Western speaking, Western civilized English speaking countries
to lead the charge.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
And we get a sense of how much that is
needed right now considering the hits that freedom is taking
in Canada, in Australia, in Great Britain, a lot of
places that need a reminder about the greatness and their
role in the greatness of Western civilization with freedom at
the core of it all. We are going to dive
into this and more on Doge and Clay's going to
(36:47):
talk about the Daytona five hundred with Trump and other
great things in the third Hour, which is coming up
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