October 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Sean Parnell, host of the "Battleground LIVE" podcast on the C&B Podcast Network, talks about speaking at President Trump's Butler, PA rally on Saturday and the race in Pennsylvania. SNL mocks Harris and Walz. Nebraska Senator Pete Ricketts on the Trump-Harris race for a key electoral vote in Omaha and a very close Senate race against a Soros-backed "independent" in Nebraska. Nebraska caller on electoral votes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
roll through the Monday edition of the program. Tomorrow will
be exactly four weeks until election Day. Early voting underway
across many different states out there already, and early voting
for many people starting next week in the even more earnest,
(00:23):
including my home state of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I planned to vote as early as I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at
the massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July
thirteenth with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an
unbelievable crowd. Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,
have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last
night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, I knew you were going to lead off
with a question like that, and I'll tell you it
was a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not
only did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding
two straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback, but the
impeachables my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the
bench tonight for Monday Night Football and turns in a
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fifty point game. Yes, it looks like the impeachables are
going to fall to three and two as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Not good, not good.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.
Anita some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall to
three and two also. But let me get okay that
is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans out there,
I had to hear about that. But let's go to
the rally itself. I believe you spoke there. What was
the what was the environment like? What did it feel like?
(01:43):
Take us for those of us who were not there,
which is the vast majority of listeners into that experience.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy
and it was surreal to be back there. I did
a walk through the night before and I'll tell you
and for all the listeners, the setup was a little
bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that
stage being in the exact same location, and I think
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that's because he wanted to send a message to the
people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that we're not finished
yet he wanted to make good on his commitment to them,
but he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,
you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we
don't bend the need to fear, we don't bend the
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need of tyranny, and come hell or high water, President
Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,
and I have to say I have a ton of
respect for that man for doing it, because you know,
I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy
about going back to that place, but we felt like
we had to go back there because we had a
duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the
same way.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Sewn. I always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Battleground Line podcast is on the clan Buck feed for
everybody listening. And also, we're gonna have Sean filling in
on this show around Thanksgiving time, so Sean, you're gonna
be in charge for all three hours at the con,
My friend, it's gonna be exciting. In the meantime, What
were some of the biggest takeaways from just that day
and also President Trump's speech and all of all of
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what you were able to gather together. I mean, a
lot of us weren't able to be there, So what
what did you walk away thinking and feeling?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It was absolutely exhilarating on so many levels because it
was just one historic moment after the next. You know,
I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you know,
God Bless the USA, right the Trump the song that
Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and I'm thinking, dang,
this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood walks out on
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stage ten feet in front of me. He's saluting Trump,
and I'm like, dang, this guy knows how to entertain.
And of course, much of much of what Trump talked about,
especially in the early phases of his speech, was Corey
Coppertore's family and the other folks in the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania who were wounded, and He's got this opera singer
coming out and everything else. And then there was a
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woman at one point Buck and Clay up in the
stands who had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped his
speech in the middle of that, and then one hundred
thousand people spur of the moment started singing the Star
Spangled Banner. It was just it was just an unbelievably
powerful moment and a powerful night on so many levels.
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And again not just a testament to President Trump's toughness,
but a testament to the character of the people of
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who also wanted to show up that
day to send a message that we're not afraid and
you know, we're going to be heard. And it was
just I have to tell you both, it was amazing
to be on that stage and look out over what
was definitely one hundred thousand people and like, look, I
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was on stage with President Trump five days before the
November twenty twenty election in Butler County almost at the
same location, sixty five thousand people there. This was this
was different. There was something in the air that was special.
And it just leads me to feel real, real good
about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in this election cycle.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.
We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to
his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast
and network. Twenty sixteen, it was an earthquake that Trump
won Pennsylvania. In the political class twenty twenty, they pulled
out all the stops to try to find a way
to win it back. The absentee ballot request were through
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the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen,
Sean is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes
to absentee ballot request nowhere near what it was in
twenty twenty. And for people out there who say, well,
there's not a COVID going on, people are going to
vote in person more Republicans have actually had add similar
(06:01):
numbers when it comes to absentee ballot requests in both
twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. So that would cut
against that argument. What are you seeing on the ground,
what do you feel, and what from a data perspective
does the math look like to you?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, So first of all, I've said here on this
show before that Pennsylvania is a state that closes late
and closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,
so what does that really mean? Well, look, Democrats can
win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've
closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania by over fifty
percent six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in
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twenty twenty than there were Republicans. That number is now
three hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats and Republicans.
Still a big number, right, But the point is is
that we are we are. In order for Republicans to
win this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and
you've got to sway independence. Every single pole that I've seen,
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not just with between Trump and Harrison Pennsylvania, but especially
between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago
McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania
will now in almost every single pole they're tied. And
that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.
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So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it
typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay
attention to is look at the counties of Erie, Pennsylvania,
which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, and Northampton, which
is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue
collar Union Democrat counties. They are the bell Weathers of
the state of Pennsylvania. And President Trump is up in
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these two bell Weather counties on not just the top
line polling. But on all of the issues from the border,
he's up fifteen. On inflation, he's up seven. On the
economy in general, he's up six. So issue after issue
after issue in these blue union Democrat counties are breaking Trump.
And again you see that play out in the polls
as well. Clay as well, Buck with Kamala just is suffering.
(08:10):
She is hemorrhaging men right. And I cannot see for
the life of me, a blue collar union Democrat, somebody
who's worked with their hands their entire life in either
of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris.
It's just not gonna happen. And last point I'll make
about the data. You look at the current mail in
request data. Democrats nine hundred and forty five thousand mail
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in ballot requests, Republicans four hundred and nineteen thousand, Independents
one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy six thousand.
Now in twenty twenty, Republicans had six hundred and sixty
eight thousand requests, five hundred and twenty four thousand returns
Democrat Democrats one point six at one point five million returns.
So in twenty twenty, we lost the vote by mail
by nearly one million. But we're actually doing a lot
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better than we were in twenty twenty because let's say
of those hundred seventy six thousand independents who have requested
a mail in ballot, let's say forty percent of them
break our way. We are going to be well over
five hundred thousand ballots requested in twenty twenty four, which
is more than we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats,
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by contrast, they need that floor of twenty twenty mail
in ballots to be successful in that state, and they are.
They're not there yet, And at nine hundred and forty
five thousand, they got to get to one point five
million returns. That the clock is ticking, guys, and I
just don't think that there's enough time for them to
make it up.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sean, What the ground game that Trump has? How is
it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And
you know you're telling you you're you're giving us a
sense of what spots in the stage should be highlighted
to try to bring it across the finish line. But
is the infrastructure there? The door knocking, the ads on TV.
I mean, you know, what are you seeing in terms
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of that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, the ads on TV, they are just the market
is absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads
in Pennsylvania running a state wide campaign because there are
five different media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, Eerie,
unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV
every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for
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President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,
look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement.
You don't get the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,
that might be a political hit optically for Kamala Harris,
but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,
you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their
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ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna
hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,
you see that playing out in the polls.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So not only are people inclined to I think, vote
for Trump because they're they're hurting where like on kitchen
table issues in their pocketbooks, but Kamala is not going
to have the ground game that old scrant and Joe
Pennsylvania had.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And you know that's another thing. You know, at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to
politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,
he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,
works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden
in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of
problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that
Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that
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to say we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down,
we got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all
of these things are good, but we're in the execution
phase of this election operation, and we got to close
the deal. We got to get the ball across the
goal line.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sean, you making a football analogy there, and this is
where Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust
college football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,
I figure out you can't be that bad of a
guy or gal. I just come back, and I know
I started with you with the Steelers question. I just
come back to what I see on the ground. I
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don't know if you saw me post this, but for
the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia
fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social
media said some some insults just cut too deep.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They had a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn Georgia
game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up regular
everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.
They're the backbone I think of much of that blue
collar mindset. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala
Harrison and I just think a lot of people are
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slowly realizing it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how many.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Steeler fans do you think listen to call her daddy
Howard Stern and watch Stephen colebat like, how is she
going to change their mind going to those outlets?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
She's not. And you're right if you go to any
sort of SEC game, you know, Trump shows up at
Alabama Georgia and the crowd goes wild for him, And
I think the reason why the crowd goes wild is
it people that are attending those college football games.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They're just normal.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.
They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago
and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago
under Trump it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not
just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And
I just you, I cannot see Kamala Harris or Walls
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showing up at a college football game and getting nothing
but just NonStop.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There is It's a great point.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
There isn't a stadium in America where Kamala Harris could
show up and be cheered like Trump is cheered all
over the country at football games.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean he's and this is why I say
he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this
is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure
of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning
to all of this is that the next generation, these
kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in
many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream
that was not so three years ago. Under Trump, when
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you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,
where you could graduate from Collus, get a job working
for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford
to buy your first home and earn your way into
the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that
same opportunity. And we're at risk here in our country, guys.
Of you know, because every parent wants to say to
their children, Hey, I want my kids to have a
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better life than I did.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But we're at a.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Point in time in this country where that might not
be the case for the first time in a very
long time. And I think these kids are waking up
to it. And I just think they're not going to
be voting for Tim Wallace or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think you'll everybody, Sean Parnell, go check out Battleground
podcast on the Clay and Buck Network.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How do you listen? You subscribe and you go to.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
The iHeartRadio app, you download that listen there or wherever
you get your podcast. Sean, thank you so much man.
Hopefully we'll be having a Pennsylvania victory celebration with you soon.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hopefully, take care, guys.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Hopefully otherwise it's gonna be sad, be sad in Pennsylvania
for all of us.
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
We have sn now deciding to make a joke at
Governor Walls's expense.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Okay, he's out there, he's doing us thing whatever that
may be.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Come on, just relax.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know you haven't had a night off in three months.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Do you want to watch something less stressful like the
Menendez Brothers show.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't know, Doggie. I kind of wish I had
picked Josh right now.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Oh, Joshapiro, No, Josh Cabernet.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Look, it will be fine. It's not like he's gonna
say something crazy. I've become friends with school shooters.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I think the I think the thrill is gone with
Walls and the Democrats. I think they've realized this guy
is not going to get it done for them.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, not only that they're going after, at least in
some way, the Kamala Harris campaign and Tim Wallas. I
watched some of the clips from Saturday Night Live in
a way that they never did in Trump sixteen or
Trump twenty, does that make sense? Like Biden, they basically
didn't do anything for a couple of years. Now they're
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mocking and ridiculing, at least trying in some way both sides.
And that feels like a big loss to the Kamala
campaign because they were protected from ridicule for a long time.
I think it's hard not to ridicule Walls and Kamala. Frankly,
they have plenty of screw ups out on the campaign trail.
We're going to talk, by the way, about the situation
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in Nebraska, big individual seat vote in Omaha.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And a Senate race there.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We'll talk with Ricketts, the senator from Nebraska when we
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show hanging out
(18:56):
with all of you. Appreciate you guys rolling with us
on this Monday, a little bit over four weeks, four
weeks in a day until the election. We are joined
now by Senator Ricketts of the Great State of Nebraska
and Senator I think this is the first time you've
been on with us. Appreciate you making the time. I
want to start with a question that is extremely local
in scope but could have major national residents, and that
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is what do you think happens in Omaha the one
electoral vote there. We got a lot of people listening
on KFAB. We love you in Omaha at a fabulous
time at the College World Series.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Great group of people. What do you seeing their senator?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How does that shake out not only in the electoral college,
but also I think there's a toss up congressional race there.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah. Absolutely. For your listenersho may not be aware, the
second congressional district in Omaha is also at standalone electoral
College vote because of, frankly, a partisan move by Democrats
back in the nineteen nineties to split up our electoral
College votes by congressional district. So if you win the
state overall, get two electoral college votes, and then every
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congressional district stands alone, you have to win that individually.
And President Trump won this district in twenty sixteen but
lost it in twenty twenty, and so it just shows you,
I mean, just in general, this district is very it's
like one of the few purple districts left in the country.
It's split very fifty to fifty. So it's always a
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tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon, my congressman, is always
has a tough race. He won it by two points
last time around in twenty two and it's gonna be
a tough race. Again this year for him, and it's
going to be a tough race for President Trump as well,
so it's definitely gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Senator Rickets appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The Republicans had a chance to change the situation of
the Omaha District and didn't. Is that correct? And what
I mean, what can you tell us about that? Because
for a lot of people, it's they have the power
to change it. It was a part of and move
when Democrats did it. Why not set it right and
put it in line with a vast majority of the
rest of states.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, it's something that we tried when I
was governor. We attempted to do it every year I
was governor, tried to get a change back to winter
take call, which is what forty eight other states do,
and we always got blocked by the Democrats. So in
our one house legislature, we have a fillbuster rule, so
you need to get thirty three of the forty nine
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centers to pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always
had enough votes to be able to block us from
getting it done when I was governor. And sadly it's
the same thing with Governor Pillan. We did have a
Democrat reregistered as Republican, but he basically changed his party registration.
It's not a philosophy, and so he would not go
along and put out a letter saying he was not
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going to vote for winner take hall and so we
did not have the thirty three votes we needed to
be able to get that changed this year. Something we're
going to have to keep trying and just get work.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Waits. That's really important because I haven't heard that said anywhere.
You basically have a stealth Democrat with an R by
his name who is blocking the change to a winner
take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that sounds like
what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well, he's not a stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Well well yeah, you guys all know. The rest of
the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican block this?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah, okay, well from that's that point. Yeah, But he
just reregisters as a Republican this year. So it was
not like a you know, he did this a while ago.
And when I was governor, for example, I served with him,
he was in the legislature, and he was always a Democrat.
When I was there, so again it was not shocking.
We made a run at him, tried to get him
to go along with it, but I said he'd like change,
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changed his party registration, but not a philosophy.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, so let's go in. We also have a big
Senate race. And for people who may not be paying
a lot of attention, I know a lot of our
audience is. But in Nebraska you can speak to this.
You know, the difference between being the majority and the
minority huge different. West Virginia is going to flip. Thank
you West Virginians. Ohio, Bernie Marino is looking like he
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has a really good chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim
Shah we've had on the show quite a lot, is
looking very good to beat. John Tester got competitive races
in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin that could be going our way.
What about Nebraska? What do people need to know there?
And what is the difference between my majority and minority
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from your perspective?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story
is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our
junior senator and governor Pillen appointed me to the position.
So I'm running in a special election this year to
be able to faceh out the last two years of
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Ben Sasa's term and then would have to run again
in twenty twenty six for a six year term and
then the regular cycle. Deb Fisher is up for election.
So we actually have both our Senate seats are up
in the rask of this year. Okay, and dev has
a tough race because she's running against an independent who
has got Soorrow's money behind her. He's out spending her
on TV two to one, and all the public polling
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I've seen shows that they're pretty much in a dead
heat right now. So we got to work to get
the word out to all Republicans, say hey, you got
to vote for deb Fisher. This guy Dan Osborne is
an independent, but he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know,
Acblue is behind him. He was in Hollywood last week
raising money. I mentioned the Soro's money already. I mean,
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this is the profile of a Democrat, right and he's
gonna even though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's
going to caucus with the Democrats. So to your point
about getting control of the Senate. It would make it
that much harder if Dan Osborn were to win. So
we need deb Fisher with and she just has to
get out there. We need to get Republicans on board.
We need to get Republicans to you know, come back
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to the Republican Party. And remember that dev is the
conservative Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may
have nice, slick commercials where he talks about being independent,
but at the end of the day, we need to
make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for
two reasons. One either to God forbid Harris gets elected,
the firewall against the crazy things she's going to want
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to do. Or in the case that we get President
Trump elected, we need to move fast to be able
to work on his agenda and quickly undo all the
damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do things
like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know, reupt
and we need to make sure we'll get his people confirm,
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you know, get his cabinet members in. So this is
a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska really need to,
you know, make sure that they're voting for deb Fisher
and turn out and vote because this is this is
an important part of the election.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Speaking of the Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.
You know, we haven't seen very much coverage at all
of what's going on here in the Senate races that
you've been talking about. And I got to say, is
this is this one of these moments where the national
level GOP and even more right leading media just a
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little little asleep at the wheel on this one. It
sounds like you got a Soros back Democrat pretending to
be an independent trying to steal what should be a
very winnable Senate seed. I mean, that's that's something we
got to raise the alarm over.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's something that we certainly has kind of
actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the last
six weeks or so, because that's because that's when Osma's
been dumping money in the race. I mean, he's out
spending Depth two to one, and we always get outspent
on the air. Right in most of these competitive races,
Democrats always have more money. I mean, this is a
party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the
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sorrows money. And you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.
And in this case, you know, the thing to remember
about Nebraska is we're also a very popular state and
we've had that history here for one hundred years. So
when somebody comes along and he's got the nice slick
ad and says he's an independent, that does appeal to Nebraskans.
And that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,
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that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We
need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is
Deubb Fisher. It's not going to be the other guy.
And of course the asbore Nane is very popular here
in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got some national
championship back in the nineteen nineties and football. But this
is the guy who's not related it not anybody related.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's actually super important.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more
than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of
a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program. Big game coming
up soon. I think you're what five and one or
four and one only one loss one?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
One? Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good
at the Big ten right now, and We got Indiana
coming up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna
be a big game. We win that game, then we'll
be Bowl of for the first time in a long time.
So we're really excited this year.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
All of that rolling together.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So again, like just to kind of bring it home,
you've got people who are not actually in the best
interest of the country trying, basically, i'll say it, to
steal a race that would not be winnable if this
guy were running as a Democrat, because I think you
would acknowledge and probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in
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the heartland is really toxic. So they're trying to do
this sneakily by running this guy as an independent. I
think that's important for Nebraskans to know.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
That is important for Nebraskas to know. In fact, the
Democrats have said this that they think the way to
win in red states is by running an independent, and
they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have
to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.
You're not actually going to be able to win in
states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative And to
your point, the Democrats have gone so far left if
you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,
(28:50):
all of our statewide elected offices, we're actually Democrats. Yeah,
and the Democrats have gone so far left with the
things they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until
the moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against,
Mike Congressman, you know, is doing. He wants abortion up
into the moment birth. Won't say when he would cut
off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. And we
(29:12):
know all the like boys playing girls' sports. And of
course the spending is just out of control, the weakness
they show on the international stage, inflation, the open southern border,
I mean, all these things that Democrats are doing are
just not what Nebraska's want. And that's what you're going
to get with Dan Osbourne if you if you vote
for him, that you're going to get high prices and
open borders, which is what this administration has been all about.
(29:34):
You know, Harris has been all about this open border,
high prices, Like, don't vote for more of that with
this guy who's citing the Independent is really a.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Democrat, no doubt. The Senator.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We appreciate it, and good luck to the corn Huskers
getting Bowl eligible and fighting their way potentially into some
Big ten competition. A lot of fun to watch them resurging.
But remember this is not Tom Osborne's relative, this is
not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker can thank you for the time.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Great, thanks a lot, appreciate it, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.
Clay also the offense very good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking
to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's
I think the first visit from from a senator from
Nebraska on the program.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So we'll do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I know that Senate race issue that have you heard
that honestly talked about on any shows anywhere. They're trying
to hide a seat playing site. That's exactly they're They're
doing it quietly because that's how they know they could
pull it off, because there's no way that a Republican
shouldn't win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well,
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you know they're very sneaky. Soros money in there, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you
going to caut us with independence. In states like Nebraska,
they run as independent. And this is what Joe Manchin did,
this is what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh,
I'm an independent, but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well,
an independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat.
Don't let them hide from you what they are trying
(31:12):
to sneak by. Again, we got the huge audience in
Kfab listening to us right now in Omaha. That electoral
college seat matters potentially a great deal, that is that
one electoral vote. But my goodness, just pay attention to
what they're trying to It's a fast one that they're
trying to slip past you.
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Helene up in the area of western North Carolina, parts
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Speaker 2 (34:02):
As severely as some of the Gulf Coast area.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Patrick is a truck driver from Omaha, but he's on
the road near Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
What's going on? Patrick?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
All?
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Good morning, joentlemen. I was listening to Peter Rikittsa, our senator,
and I actually have a bit of a different perspective
on how the electoral votes should be done. And I'm
my humble opinion, the other forty eight are doing it wrong.
And here's why. When you have all or nothing, you
have people that are disenfranchised. You know, the out upstate
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New York, rural Illinois, rural California. Their vote really doesn't
matter because it's so dominated, you know, by the big
cities that are going to vote blue. But if you
have a split vote like Nebraskan MainView, you get people
that are involved that you get people that are saying, hey,
I do want to research and see who my presidential
options are. But you know, if I'm a farmer in president,
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there's no way that Trump's gonna have a chance. But
if my congressional district goes red, then at least my
electoral vote representing Mike Congressman goes toward Trump. And what
will happen over time is that the low information voter
is going to die because the people are going to
be informed. And I think, humbly, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
No, you go ahead, you go ahead. We got three hours.
What do you what do you have?
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Well, again, like I say, it's it's a way to
get I think more people involved, because I hate to
think you know that certainly. You know people in Grand
Island or Scott's buff Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
That's as red as it gets.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
But the guy, oh, it's it's purple.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So here here's my concern with So, but what you
is just a national popular vote?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, sir, Yeah, I mean that's not I get.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I get that you're saying by congressional district you want
to do it, But that's a national popular vote effectively.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
No, absolutely not, because we would still have the two
votes for the senator seats going red, no matter what.
You would still have a bit of a chilt that
would still benefit individual states.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's okay, So you're not saying by every congressional district
you're saying that you want. I mean, it's it's a
complicated argument. We'll talk about it a little bit more
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I mean, the problem, the problem is that this exists
almost nowhere, and for it to exist in a red
state and a razor thin election is just bad politics.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, So philosophically, one thing.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Philosophically, we could change our federalist systems dramatically, Clay, I
don't want the outlier to be the difference between a
Kamala and Trump victory this time around, we could work.
We could work on the long term philosophical side another
election cycle.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
What also, what he's arguing for is basically just the
House of Representatives right
Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
roll through the Monday edition of the program. Tomorrow will
be exactly four weeks until election Day. Early voting underway
across many different states out there already, and early voting
for many people starting next week in the even more earnest,
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including my home state of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I planned to vote as early as I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We are joined now by Sean Parnell, who was at
the massive Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania that ended July
thirteenth with a assassination attempt. Trump went back, had an
unbelievable crowd. Now get to that in a second, But first, Sean,
have you recovered from Dak Prescott's late touchdown pass last
night to beat your beloved Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, I knew you were going to lead off
with a question like that, and I'll tell you it
was a rough night here in Fort Parnell, because not
only did the Steelers fall to three and two, backsliding
two straight losses with Justin Fields at quarterback, but the
impeachables my fantasy team unless Kareem Hunt comes off the
bench tonight for Monday Night Football and turns in a
(01:14):
fifty point game. Yes, it looks like the impeachables are
going to fall to three and two as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Not good, not good.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm in a tough spot in my fantasy league as well.
Anita some miracles to fight and I'm gonna fall to
three and two also. But let me get okay that
is out there. Sorry for all the Steelers fans out there,
I had to hear about that. But let's go to
the rally itself. I believe you spoke there. What was
the what was the environment like? What did it feel like?
(01:43):
Take us for those of us who were not there,
which is the vast majority of listeners into that experience.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, I have to say it was. It was crazy
and it was surreal to be back there. I did
a walk through the night before and I'll tell you
and for all the listeners, the setup was a little
bit different. But President Trump was absolutely insistent on that
stage being in the exact same location, and I think
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that's because he wanted to send a message to the
people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that we're not finished
yet he wanted to make good on his commitment to them,
but he also wanted to send a message to our enemies,
you know, both here and abroad, that as Americans, we
don't bend the need to fear, we don't bend the
(02:34):
need of tyranny, and come hell or high water, President
Trump was standing on that stage and finishing what he started,
and I have to say I have a ton of
respect for that man for doing it, because you know,
I wasn't crazy, and I know my wife wasn't crazy
about going back to that place, but we felt like
we had to go back there because we had a
duty to go there, and President Trump clearly felt the
same way.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Sewn. I always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Battleground Line podcast is on the clan Buck feed for
everybody listening. And also, we're gonna have Sean filling in
on this show around Thanksgiving time, so Sean, you're gonna
be in charge for all three hours at the con,
My friend, it's gonna be exciting. In the meantime, What
were some of the biggest takeaways from just that day
and also President Trump's speech and all of all of
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what you were able to gather together. I mean, a
lot of us weren't able to be there, So what
what did you walk away thinking and feeling?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It was absolutely exhilarating on so many levels because it
was just one historic moment after the next. You know,
I'm sitting there in the crowd and I hear, you know,
God Bless the USA, right the Trump the song that
Lee Greenwood song that Trump walks out to, and I'm thinking, dang,
this sounds really good. And Lee Greenwood walks out on
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stage ten feet in front of me. He's saluting Trump,
and I'm like, dang, this guy knows how to entertain.
And of course, much of much of what Trump talked about,
especially in the early phases of his speech, was Corey
Coppertore's family and the other folks in the Commonwealth of
Pennsylvania who were wounded, and He's got this opera singer
coming out and everything else. And then there was a
(04:13):
woman at one point Buck and Clay up in the
stands who had a medical emergency. President Trump stopped his
speech in the middle of that, and then one hundred
thousand people spur of the moment started singing the Star
Spangled Banner. It was just it was just an unbelievably
powerful moment and a powerful night on so many levels.
(04:34):
And again not just a testament to President Trump's toughness,
but a testament to the character of the people of
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania who also wanted to show up that
day to send a message that we're not afraid and
you know, we're going to be heard. And it was
just I have to tell you both, it was amazing
to be on that stage and look out over what
was definitely one hundred thousand people and like, look, I
(04:57):
was on stage with President Trump five days before the
November twenty twenty election in Butler County almost at the
same location, sixty five thousand people there. This was this
was different. There was something in the air that was special.
And it just leads me to feel real, real good
about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in this election cycle.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, let's dive into that, because you know Pennsylvania really well.
We're talking to Sean Parnell. Encourage you to listen to
his podcast as part of the Clay and Buck podcast
and network. Twenty sixteen, it was an earthquake that Trump
won Pennsylvania. In the political class twenty twenty, they pulled
out all the stops to try to find a way
to win it back. The absentee ballot request were through
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the roof. In terms of data, what I have seen,
Sean is that the enthusiasm for Democrats when it comes
to absentee ballot request nowhere near what it was in
twenty twenty. And for people out there who say, well,
there's not a COVID going on, people are going to
vote in person more Republicans have actually had add similar
(06:01):
numbers when it comes to absentee ballot requests in both
twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. So that would cut
against that argument. What are you seeing on the ground,
what do you feel, and what from a data perspective
does the math look like to you?
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, So first of all, I've said here on this
show before that Pennsylvania is a state that closes late
and closes fast, and now you're seeing that play out. Well,
so what does that really mean? Well, look, Democrats can
win this state without a single Republican vote. Now we've
closed the voter registration deficit in Pennsylvania by over fifty
percent six hundred and fifty thousand plus more Democrats in
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twenty twenty than there were Republicans. That number is now
three hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrats and Republicans.
Still a big number, right, But the point is is
that we are we are. In order for Republicans to
win this state, you've got to win moderate Democrats, and
you've got to sway independence. Every single pole that I've seen,
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not just with between Trump and Harrison Pennsylvania, but especially
between McCormick and Casey, has shown probably two months ago
McCormick down anywhere between seven and ten points in Pennsylvania
will now in almost every single pole they're tied. And
that tells me that moderate Democrats and independents are breaking Republicans.
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So the state is closing lateness, closing fast as it
typically does. Another thing that I need people to pay
attention to is look at the counties of Erie, Pennsylvania,
which is in the northwest of Pennsylvania, and Northampton, which
is in the northeast of Pennsylvania. Those are two blue
collar Union Democrat counties. They are the bell Weathers of
the state of Pennsylvania. And President Trump is up in
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these two bell Weather counties on not just the top
line polling. But on all of the issues from the border,
he's up fifteen. On inflation, he's up seven. On the
economy in general, he's up six. So issue after issue
after issue in these blue union Democrat counties are breaking Trump.
And again you see that play out in the polls
as well. Clay as well, Buck with Kamala just is suffering.
(08:10):
She is hemorrhaging men right. And I cannot see for
the life of me, a blue collar union Democrat, somebody
who's worked with their hands their entire life in either
of those counties saying yeah, I'm gonna vote for Kamala Harris.
It's just not gonna happen. And last point I'll make
about the data. You look at the current mail in
request data. Democrats nine hundred and forty five thousand mail
(08:32):
in ballot requests, Republicans four hundred and nineteen thousand, Independents
one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy six thousand.
Now in twenty twenty, Republicans had six hundred and sixty
eight thousand requests, five hundred and twenty four thousand returns
Democrat Democrats one point six at one point five million returns.
So in twenty twenty, we lost the vote by mail
by nearly one million. But we're actually doing a lot
(08:55):
better than we were in twenty twenty because let's say
of those hundred seventy six thousand independents who have requested
a mail in ballot, let's say forty percent of them
break our way. We are going to be well over
five hundred thousand ballots requested in twenty twenty four, which
is more than we had in twenty twenty. And Democrats,
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by contrast, they need that floor of twenty twenty mail
in ballots to be successful in that state, and they are.
They're not there yet, And at nine hundred and forty
five thousand, they got to get to one point five
million returns. That the clock is ticking, guys, and I
just don't think that there's enough time for them to
make it up.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Sean, What the ground game that Trump has? How is
it looking? How is it in these final weeks? And
you know you're telling you you're you're giving us a
sense of what spots in the stage should be highlighted
to try to bring it across the finish line. But
is the infrastructure there? The door knocking, the ads on TV.
I mean, you know, what are you seeing in terms
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of that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, the ads on TV, they are just the market
is absolutely saturated. And it's particularly tough to run ads
in Pennsylvania running a state wide campaign because there are
five different media markets, whether it's Philadelphia, scrant and York, Pittsburgh, Eerie,
unbelievably expensive. But yeah, there's a political ad on TV
every couple of seconds here. But the ground game for
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President Trump is really, really, really strong. And again, by contrast,
look at Kamala Harris. You don't get the teams to endorsement.
You don't get the endorsement of the National Firefighters Union. Now, yeah,
that might be a political hit optically for Kamala Harris,
but when they don't endorse, you don't get their infrastructure,
you don't get their door knocking, you don't get their
(10:39):
ballot chasing, you don't get union organization. And that's gonna
hurt her in Pennsylvania. And again you see that in play,
you see that playing out in the polls.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So not only are people inclined to I think, vote
for Trump because they're they're hurting where like on kitchen
table issues in their pocketbooks, but Kamala is not going
to have the ground game that old scrant and Joe
Pennsylvania had.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And you know that's another thing. You know, at the
top of the ticket.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know, most people in Pennsylvania that aren't tethered to
politics every day are looking at Scranton Joe and saying, hey,
he's one of us. Old moderate Joe Biden, you know,
works across the aisle. Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden
in that regard, and so she's got all sorts of
problems in Pennsylvania. I think it's pretty clear now that
Kamala has a Pennsylvania problem. But I say all that
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to say we've got a campaign, like we're ten points down,
we got to sprint across the finish. I mean, all
of these things are good, but we're in the execution
phase of this election operation, and we got to close
the deal. We got to get the ball across the
goal line.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sean, you making a football analogy there, and this is
where Buck has said for some time, I automatically trust
college football fans more, NFL fans more. If you like football,
I figure out you can't be that bad of a
guy or gal. I just come back, and I know
I started with you with the Steelers question. I just
come back to what I see on the ground. I
(11:59):
don't know if you saw me post this, but for
the Georgia Alabama game, the sign said, you know, Georgia
fans love Kamala, and all the Georgia fans on social
media said some some insults just cut too deep.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They had a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Big rally for the College Democrats at the Auburn Georgia
game on the campus in Athens. Nobody shows up regular
everyday football fans. You see them in Pennsylvania a lot.
They're the backbone I think of much of that blue
collar mindset. They're not showing up and voting for Kamala
Harrison and I just think a lot of people are
(12:36):
slowly realizing it.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And then her outreach. I mean, Sean, how many.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Steeler fans do you think listen to call her daddy
Howard Stern and watch Stephen colebat like, how is she
going to change their mind going to those outlets?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
She's not. And you're right if you go to any
sort of SEC game, you know, Trump shows up at
Alabama Georgia and the crowd goes wild for him, And
I think the reason why the crowd goes wild is
it people that are attending those college football games.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
They're just normal.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
They're not politicals like us, right, They're just normal people.
They're really struggling. They look at life three years ago
and said, hey, life was pretty great. Three years ago
under Trump it was easier. Life Now it sucks, not
just here domestically, but the world is on fire. And
I just you, I cannot see Kamala Harris or Walls
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showing up at a college football game and getting nothing
but just NonStop.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
There is It's a great point.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
There isn't a stadium in America where Kamala Harris could
show up and be cheered like Trump is cheered all
over the country at football games.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean he's and this is why I say
he's the most I'm obviously a Trump guy, but this
is why I say he's the most electrifying political figure
of my lifetime. And I think there's a political underpinning
to all of this is that the next generation, these
kids that are eighteen to twenty five years old, in
many ways, they've been priced out of the American dream
that was not so three years ago. Under Trump, when
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you have mortgage interest rates at two point five percent,
where you could graduate from Collus, get a job working
for maybe forty five fifty grand a year, and afford
to buy your first home and earn your way into
the American dream. These kids today, they don't have that
same opportunity. And we're at risk here in our country, guys.
Of you know, because every parent wants to say to
their children, Hey, I want my kids to have a
(14:23):
better life than I did.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But we're at a.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Point in time in this country where that might not
be the case for the first time in a very
long time. And I think these kids are waking up
to it. And I just think they're not going to
be voting for Tim Wallace or Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I think you'll everybody, Sean Parnell, go check out Battleground
podcast on the Clay and Buck Network.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
How do you listen? You subscribe and you go to.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
The iHeartRadio app, you download that listen there or wherever
you get your podcast. Sean, thank you so much man.
Hopefully we'll be having a Pennsylvania victory celebration with you soon.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hopefully, take care, guys.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Hopefully otherwise it's gonna be sad, be sad in Pennsylvania
for all of us.
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Well, not only that they're going after, at least in
some way, the Kamala Harris campaign and Tim Wallas. I
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Trump twenty, does that make sense? Like Biden, they basically
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And that feels like a big loss to the Kamala
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I think it's hard not to ridicule Walls and Kamala. Frankly,
they have plenty of screw ups out on the campaign trail.
We're going to talk, by the way, about the situation
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in Nebraska, big individual seat vote in Omaha.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
And a Senate race there.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We'll talk with Ricketts, the senator from Nebraska when we
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with all of you. Appreciate you guys rolling with us
on this Monday, a little bit over four weeks, four
weeks in a day until the election. We are joined
now by Senator Ricketts of the Great State of Nebraska
and Senator I think this is the first time you've
been on with us. Appreciate you making the time. I
want to start with a question that is extremely local
in scope but could have major national residents, and that
(19:19):
is what do you think happens in Omaha the one
electoral vote there. We got a lot of people listening
on KFAB. We love you in Omaha at a fabulous
time at the College World Series.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Great group of people. What do you seeing their senator?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
How does that shake out not only in the electoral college,
but also I think there's a toss up congressional race there.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah. Absolutely. For your listenersho may not be aware, the
second congressional district in Omaha is also at standalone electoral
College vote because of, frankly, a partisan move by Democrats
back in the nineteen nineties to split up our electoral
College votes by congressional district. So if you win the
state overall, get two electoral college votes, and then every
(20:02):
congressional district stands alone, you have to win that individually.
And President Trump won this district in twenty sixteen but
lost it in twenty twenty, and so it just shows you,
I mean, just in general, this district is very it's
like one of the few purple districts left in the country.
It's split very fifty to fifty. So it's always a
(20:22):
tough congressional seat. So Don Bacon, my congressman, is always
has a tough race. He won it by two points
last time around in twenty two and it's gonna be
a tough race. Again this year for him, and it's
going to be a tough race for President Trump as well,
so it's definitely gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Senator Rickets appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The Republicans had a chance to change the situation of
the Omaha District and didn't. Is that correct? And what
I mean, what can you tell us about that? Because
for a lot of people, it's they have the power
to change it. It was a part of and move
when Democrats did it. Why not set it right and
put it in line with a vast majority of the
rest of states.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, it's something that we tried when I
was governor. We attempted to do it every year I
was governor, tried to get a change back to winter
take call, which is what forty eight other states do,
and we always got blocked by the Democrats. So in
our one house legislature, we have a fillbuster rule, so
you need to get thirty three of the forty nine
(21:26):
centers to pass anything that's controversial, and the Democrats always
had enough votes to be able to block us from
getting it done when I was governor. And sadly it's
the same thing with Governor Pillan. We did have a
Democrat reregistered as Republican, but he basically changed his party registration.
It's not a philosophy, and so he would not go
along and put out a letter saying he was not
(21:47):
going to vote for winner take hall and so we
did not have the thirty three votes we needed to
be able to get that changed this year. Something we're
going to have to keep trying and just get work.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Waits. That's really important because I haven't heard that said anywhere.
You basically have a stealth Democrat with an R by
his name who is blocking the change to a winner
take all electoral college in Nebraska, and that sounds like
what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Well, he's not a stealth Democrat. Everybody knows he's a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Well well yeah, you guys all know. The rest of
the country, though, is all thinking, wait, a Republican block this?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah, okay, well from that's that point. Yeah, But he
just reregisters as a Republican this year. So it was
not like a you know, he did this a while ago.
And when I was governor, for example, I served with him,
he was in the legislature, and he was always a Democrat.
When I was there, so again it was not shocking.
We made a run at him, tried to get him
to go along with it, but I said he'd like change,
(22:42):
changed his party registration, but not a philosophy.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, so let's go in. We also have a big
Senate race. And for people who may not be paying
a lot of attention, I know a lot of our
audience is. But in Nebraska you can speak to this.
You know, the difference between being the majority and the
minority huge different. West Virginia is going to flip. Thank
you West Virginians. Ohio, Bernie Marino is looking like he
(23:06):
has a really good chance of beating Sharad Brown. Tim
Shah we've had on the show quite a lot, is
looking very good to beat. John Tester got competitive races
in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin that could be going our way.
What about Nebraska? What do people need to know there?
And what is the difference between my majority and minority
(23:26):
from your perspective?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, so I am actually in cycled. So my story
is that I was governor from twenty fifteen to twenty
twenty three, and then Ben SaaS stepped down as our
junior senator and governor Pillen appointed me to the position.
So I'm running in a special election this year to
be able to faceh out the last two years of
(23:49):
Ben Sasa's term and then would have to run again
in twenty twenty six for a six year term and
then the regular cycle. Deb Fisher is up for election.
So we actually have both our Senate seats are up
in the rask of this year. Okay, and dev has
a tough race because she's running against an independent who
has got Soorrow's money behind her. He's out spending her
on TV two to one, and all the public polling
(24:11):
I've seen shows that they're pretty much in a dead
heat right now. So we got to work to get
the word out to all Republicans, say hey, you got
to vote for deb Fisher. This guy Dan Osborne is
an independent, but he's really a Democrat. He's getting you know,
Acblue is behind him. He was in Hollywood last week
raising money. I mentioned the Soro's money already. I mean,
(24:32):
this is the profile of a Democrat, right and he's
gonna even though he hasn't said, I'm quite certain he's
going to caucus with the Democrats. So to your point
about getting control of the Senate. It would make it
that much harder if Dan Osborn were to win. So
we need deb Fisher with and she just has to
get out there. We need to get Republicans on board.
We need to get Republicans to you know, come back
(24:54):
to the Republican Party. And remember that dev is the
conservative Republican in this race, not Dan Osborne. He may
have nice, slick commercials where he talks about being independent,
but at the end of the day, we need to
make sure that we're taking control of the Senate for
two reasons. One either to God forbid Harris gets elected,
the firewall against the crazy things she's going to want
(25:14):
to do. Or in the case that we get President
Trump elected, we need to move fast to be able
to work on his agenda and quickly undo all the
damage that Biden Harris administration is done and do things
like get the twenty seventeen tax cuts, you know, reupt
and we need to make sure we'll get his people confirm,
(25:34):
you know, get his cabinet members in. So this is
a big deal and Republicans of Nebraska really need to,
you know, make sure that they're voting for deb Fisher
and turn out and vote because this is this is
an important part of the election.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Speaking of the Senator Ricketts of Nebraska, Senator, this is fascinating.
You know, we haven't seen very much coverage at all
of what's going on here in the Senate races that
you've been talking about. And I got to say, is
this is this one of these moments where the national
level GOP and even more right leading media just a
(26:09):
little little asleep at the wheel on this one. It
sounds like you got a Soros back Democrat pretending to
be an independent trying to steal what should be a
very winnable Senate seed. I mean, that's that's something we
got to raise the alarm over.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's something that we certainly has kind of
actually come upon us relatively quickly, like within the last
six weeks or so, because that's because that's when Osma's
been dumping money in the race. I mean, he's out
spending Depth two to one, and we always get outspent
on the air. Right in most of these competitive races,
Democrats always have more money. I mean, this is a
party of the rich elites, so they're getting all the
(26:44):
sorrows money. And you know, Tom Steyer and everybody else.
And in this case, you know, the thing to remember
about Nebraska is we're also a very popular state and
we've had that history here for one hundred years. So
when somebody comes along and he's got the nice slick
ad and says he's an independent, that does appeal to Nebraskans.
And that's why we've got to remind, especially our conservative Republicans,
(27:06):
that you can't be fooled by this guy's ads. We
need to vote for the conservative Republican and that is
Deubb Fisher. It's not going to be the other guy.
And of course the asbore Nane is very popular here
in Nebraska because Tom Osborne, you know, got some national
championship back in the nineteen nineties and football. But this
is the guy who's not related it not anybody related.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's actually super important.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Again, it goes to me trusting college football fans more
than anyone. You guys are having a little bit of
a resurgence with the Nebraska Cornhusker program. Big game coming
up soon. I think you're what five and one or
four and one only one loss one?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
One? Yeah, we're five and one actually looking pretty good
at the Big ten right now, and We got Indiana
coming up in a couple of weeks, so that's gonna
be a big game. We win that game, then we'll
be Bowl of for the first time in a long time.
So we're really excited this year.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
All of that rolling together.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So again, like just to kind of bring it home,
you've got people who are not actually in the best
interest of the country trying, basically, i'll say it, to
steal a race that would not be winnable if this
guy were running as a Democrat, because I think you
would acknowledge and probably recognize too, the Democrat brand in
(28:19):
the heartland is really toxic. So they're trying to do
this sneakily by running this guy as an independent. I
think that's important for Nebraskans to know.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
That is important for Nebraskas to know. In fact, the
Democrats have said this that they think the way to
win in red states is by running an independent, and
they're trying it here in Nebraska. And what we have
to do is show them, no, this is a bad idea.
You're not actually going to be able to win in
states like Nebraska because we actually are conservative And to
your point, the Democrats have gone so far left if
you look back in the nineteen nineties here in Nebraska,
(28:50):
all of our statewide elected offices, we're actually Democrats. Yeah,
and the Democrats have gone so far left with the
things they're doing. You know, they want abortion up until
the moment of birth. That's what this guy is running against,
Mike Congressman, you know, is doing. He wants abortion up
into the moment birth. Won't say when he would cut
off abortion. They're just crazy radical on that. And we
(29:12):
know all the like boys playing girls' sports. And of
course the spending is just out of control, the weakness
they show on the international stage, inflation, the open southern border,
I mean, all these things that Democrats are doing are
just not what Nebraska's want. And that's what you're going
to get with Dan Osbourne if you if you vote
for him, that you're going to get high prices and
open borders, which is what this administration has been all about.
(29:34):
You know, Harris has been all about this open border,
high prices, Like, don't vote for more of that with
this guy who's citing the Independent is really a.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Democrat, no doubt. The Senator.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
We appreciate it, and good luck to the corn Huskers
getting Bowl eligible and fighting their way potentially into some
Big ten competition. A lot of fun to watch them resurging.
But remember this is not Tom Osborne's relative, this is
not your daddy's Nebraska Cornhusker can thank you for the time.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Great, thanks a lot, appreciate it, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I know I've been very impressed by the corn Husker defense.
Clay also the offense very good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
You're wearing your red because you knew we were talking
to Nebraska Cornhusker fans today. It was particular with that's
I think the first visit from from a senator from
Nebraska on the program.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So we'll do whatever we can to help.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
I know that Senate race issue that have you heard
that honestly talked about on any shows anywhere. They're trying
to hide a seat playing site. That's exactly they're They're
doing it quietly because that's how they know they could
pull it off, because there's no way that a Republican
shouldn't win a Senate seat statewide race in Nebraska. Well,
(30:46):
you know they're very sneaky. Soros money in there, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Be careful again, just ask the question, who are you
going to caut us with independence. In states like Nebraska,
they run as independent. And this is what Joe Manchin did,
this is what Kirsten Cinema did. They eventually said, oh,
I'm an independent, but they continue to caucus with the Democrats. Well,
an independent who caucuses with the Democrat is a Democrat.
Don't let them hide from you what they are trying
(31:12):
to sneak by. Again, we got the huge audience in
Kfab listening to us right now in Omaha. That electoral
college seat matters potentially a great deal, that is that
one electoral vote. But my goodness, just pay attention to
what they're trying to It's a fast one that they're
trying to slip past you.
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the hurricane is troubling. Hurricane Milton going to be making
landfall in two days on Wednesday, I believe, is when
it is slated, and we are seeing that it is
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already a Category five with winds of one hundred and
seventy five miles an hour, and it is on a
track to pretty much have a bullseye on Tampa. So
we're still very much dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane
Helene up in the area of western North Carolina, parts
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of Georgia, eastern Tennessee. And it looks like Florida, I mean,
might get hit really hard here. So we'll continue to
watch this and I just hope everyone's preparing and I'm
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Speaker 2 (34:02):
As severely as some of the Gulf Coast area.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Patrick is a truck driver from Omaha, but he's on
the road near Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
What's going on? Patrick?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
All?
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Good morning, joentlemen. I was listening to Peter Rikittsa, our senator,
and I actually have a bit of a different perspective
on how the electoral votes should be done. And I'm
my humble opinion, the other forty eight are doing it wrong.
And here's why. When you have all or nothing, you
have people that are disenfranchised. You know, the out upstate
(34:37):
New York, rural Illinois, rural California. Their vote really doesn't
matter because it's so dominated, you know, by the big
cities that are going to vote blue. But if you
have a split vote like Nebraskan MainView, you get people
that are involved that you get people that are saying, hey,
I do want to research and see who my presidential
options are. But you know, if I'm a farmer in president,
(34:57):
there's no way that Trump's gonna have a chance. But
if my congressional district goes red, then at least my
electoral vote representing Mike Congressman goes toward Trump. And what
will happen over time is that the low information voter
is going to die because the people are going to
be informed. And I think, humbly, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
No, you go ahead, you go ahead. We got three hours.
What do you what do you have?
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Well, again, like I say, it's it's a way to
get I think more people involved, because I hate to
think you know that certainly. You know people in Grand
Island or Scott's buff Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
That's as red as it gets.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
But the guy, oh, it's it's purple.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So here here's my concern with So, but what you
is just a national popular vote?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, sir, Yeah, I mean that's not I get.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I get that you're saying by congressional district you want
to do it, But that's a national popular vote effectively.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
No, absolutely not, because we would still have the two
votes for the senator seats going red, no matter what.
You would still have a bit of a chilt that
would still benefit individual states.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's okay, So you're not saying by every congressional district
you're saying that you want. I mean, it's it's a
complicated argument. We'll talk about it a little bit more
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I mean, the problem, the problem is that this exists
almost nowhere, and for it to exist in a red
state and a razor thin election is just bad politics.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
No, So philosophically, one thing.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Philosophically, we could change our federalist systems dramatically, Clay, I
don't want the outlier to be the difference between a
Kamala and Trump victory this time around, we could work.
We could work on the long term philosophical side another
election cycle.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
What also, what he's arguing for is basically just the
House of Representatives right
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