January 16, 2025 • 36 mins
TikTok CEO attending the inauguration. Does showman Trump have something up his sleave with Truth Social? WAPO’s new mission statement. Trump wants to keep TikTok ticking. Is cancel culture canceled?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now
and got a lot to talk to you about. We
are still waiting to get more updates here on the ceasefire.
He's Net and Yahoo. The Prime Minister trying to pull
it all together here, get this done. Also, TikTok, the
(00:23):
CEO of TikTok is going to be attending Trump's inauguration.
I think that Trump the Showman has something up his
sleeve here, has some things in mind that will keep
TikTok online. It was kind of sad. I was looking
at some TikTok yesterday and the people, some of the
(00:47):
content creators were doing kind of you know, I put this,
They were doing like I'm sorry. You know, you can
have like Sarah McLaughlin music play in the background or
something like it's been great. You know, I've enjoyed being
a content creator for all of you. Is very kind
of bummed out watching this. It's like, oh man, cause
(01:09):
I've never seen this before. And the whole history of Facebook,
Facebook has never just said we're shutting down. Same thing
with Instagram, same thing with I mean, even Twitter when
it was acquired, never shut down. And TikTok is supposed
to go offline right now on Sunday. I think it's
going to be salvaged in some way. I don't think
it's actually going to go offline entirely. We shall see.
(01:32):
There's some very interesting possibilities there. But Clay, it also
makes me think about what a massive realignment is occurring
within the media right now. I think that the absolute
worst point for press freedom and press honesty, whether we're
talking social media or the longstanding news entities like The
(01:57):
New York Times, CNN, et cetera, was the Biden era
of COVID in particular. I think that's when things got
completely out of control. And we've seen that. I mean,
we've seen this with the Twitter files. We've seen this
with the collusion with the government that occurred to have
the Biden administration shutting people down for things that were
(02:20):
not only were they not supposed to be shutting people down,
they were often shutting them down for things that were true, right,
So they were using the power of censorship to suppress truthful,
accurate information, which is even more totalitarian feeling. So that's
why it's interesting, Clay to me that we see the
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Washington Post, which went full communists under Trump's time both
in office and then under Biden. But when completely wacko
with democracy dies in darkness, you know what Trump want
and democracy's not dead. In fact, the country's doing just fine,
thank you. I'm gonna be doing a whole lot better
in the next year. Now you see this, Clay, the
(03:04):
new Washington Post mission, new mission statement. They've had to
change it from Democracy dies in darkness, which as a guy,
your estrogen levels rise dramatically when you just say it
out loud. Your voice gets hired. Democracy dies in darkness.
The new Washington Post mission statement is riveting storytelling for
(03:27):
all of America. Wow, you mean there's going to be
a newspaper that is trying to just tell people the
news instead of being a DNC propaganda rag. Do you
think that this is actually gonna take Is it gonna hold? Clay?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, first of all, this is anytime you have one
of these slogans, by and large, they get a ton
of people sitting around and they end up with something
that is very, very bland. So again, riveting story telling
for all of America.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's the mission statement.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
If they actually follow through, then credit to Jeff Bezos
for altering the trajectory of the newspaper that he bought,
Democracy Dies in Darkness?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is it going to come off the masthead? Is that official?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Because I can imagine that the Washington Post reporters will
lose their mind if you take Democracy Dies in Darkness
off of the masthead. But I do think what it's
emblematic of, and this is important, and I think it
matters you're going to have in theory, Buck Mark Zuckerberg
of Facebook Meta Bezos, who runs Amazon as well as
(04:43):
owns the Washington Post, Elon, who obviously has like eighty
different companies including X and SpaceX and Ai X and
Xai I guess it is, and obviously Tesla, all these
different companies. You're now going to evidently have the TikTok
CEO all sitting in positions of honor at the inauguration
(05:06):
near the cabinet. And did you see something yesterday that
to me ties in with this. Margo, who runs much
of Trump's behind the scenes social media, tweeted this out
and I didn't see it get a lot of attention,
but Diet Coke made a special inauguration Diet Coke honorarium
(05:27):
for Trump. Now, a lot of you out there might
be saying, Okay, Clay, why does that matter. First of all,
Trump drinks diet coke like water. I mean, the guy
just pounds diet cokes all day long. He loves them.
We've done interviews Buck where they just keep preaking in
new diet cokes and pumped the Trumps, just popping them,
pounding them, popping, pounding, and I think Ewan Musk now
(05:47):
it's gotten in on the diet coke obsession and many
of you out there. It's got the caffeine, it doesn't
have the calories. I'm not trying to sell diet coke,
but a lot of people love it. Okay, So they
would have never done this in sixteen Bucks, the CEO
of Coke never would have shown up at mar A
Lago and been saying, hey, congratulations, President Trump, here is
(06:08):
a diet coke in your honor. It seems like a
small thing, but combined with Bezos, combined with Zuckerberg, combined
with Musk, the resistance is dead. And even the Washington
Post changing the masththead. Remember they put that in place
in twenty sixteen when it was like Trump won the
president Russia put him there. All of corporate America is
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basically now saying we're glad Trump won and we're no
longer fighting him. And I think it sets the table
for an amazing twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six
for Trump, where truly much of America finally gets back
in line together and says, this is our guy. He's
the president, and we want him to kick ass. And
the resistance and the whole cancel culture it's dead. And
(06:56):
I do think that diet coke thing, which seems small,
is actually incredibly emblematic of the culture shift that we've
seen since Trump won in November.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, it's a it's a huge change in sentiment from
a lot of companies, and I think the the corporate
culture more broadly uh has Now there's been this breakthrough
where you've had people walking away from or ending very
ideologically intense DEI stuff. You've had people that feel like,
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you know, enough is enough with some of the more
woke policies that corporate America has embraced. Now, that's cases
here and there, it's that's not really across the board.
But I do think there's been a taming of the
anti Trump media that has occurred that is far beyond
what anybody could have anticipated even a year ago, where
(07:54):
now they you know, they're they're still critical, but and
they still are opposing Trump. But the hysteria thing, it
had turned into a hysteria contest. And I spent way
too much time, as you all know, watching Democrat media
against Trump during the Biden years, because I always want
to know what they're saying. You couldn't get anybody to
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watch your monologue if you were a Democrat on TV
and you weren't saying that Trump, you know, led an
insurrection and as a threat to democracy, there was no lee.
There was no audience for you. There was no leeway
to do something that was less crazy than that. Just
as when Trump was in office, there was no room
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for you to be a Democrat with an audience and
a voice that had, you know, impact on that side.
There was no room for you unless you were willing
to say that Trump is a Russian stooge and Russia
collusion and Russia stole the election. That now has faded,
and I think they're finding themselves in a position where
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they've exhausted to the hysteria of their own side. I
think that's what the Washington Post is reacting to at
some level. I mean, the old democracy dies in darkness. Remember,
it's not like that was their slogan for one hundred years.
And then Trump happened to be president and they got more. No,
they in twenty seventeen, they decided this was their you know,
(09:19):
they were hashtag resistance. The Washington Post, which is really
the second most i don't know, venerated by the elite,
certainly within DC, the most venerated newspaper, and it became
a hashtag resistance entity and completely abandoned the mission of
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any kind of neutral or impartial reporting. I mean that
just was was a joke. The front page was just
all one big anti Trump's creed. So it's moving away
from that now. I don't see how they can get back.
I don't see how they can ramp things Upclay anytime soon.
So we're in a totally different media environment than we
had been in for eight years, and we're still figuring
(10:01):
out what that looks like. But so far it's all good.
I mean, so far, it's the good guys winning, the
bad guys losing and running for cover.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And remember all we're asking for it's just for everybody's
opinions to be treated the same Democrats are demanding that
their opinions be treated in a more favorable light. All
we're asking for is the rules to be applied evenly
and the principles of the marketplace of ideas to be
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distributed evenly. And this is an analogy I've made Buck,
but I think it's so important, and I think even
it's gotten through to Jeff Bezos. If all of your
errors make Donald Trump look awful, you never have a
reporting error.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And I kind of have done this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I wrote it in my most recent book, but I said,
you know, there's never a story that comes out and
goes viral that Trump saved a kitten from drowning, and
then it comes back and it's like, actually, that story
didn't happen. If all of your stories about Trump that
are proven to be false all make him look worse,
(11:12):
that's not just a failure sometimes of reporting. Nobody's perfect.
Everybody gets things wrong. That's life, no matter what you
do for a living. But if you're truly unbiased, there
should be super positive Trump stories that it turns out
weren't true. Instead, every Trump story that's super negative is
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the one that turns out not to be true. And
if I'm looking at that, and I'm Jeff Bezos, and
I spent two hundred and fifty million dollars to buy
The Washington Post, which, to be fair, is a pinprick
of the net worth of Jeff Bezos. It's like an
average person going out and buying a car for like
one thousand dollars. It's not even a high end car.
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It's just part of his play money that he has decided.
That's the sign that your culture is rotten from the
inside and that you aren't actually doing stories that are
fair and appeal to everyone. And I've talked about this
in the evolution of the Washington Post. I went to
college in DC. You lived in DC. I enjoyed buying
the Washington Post and reading it. I mean, I knew
(12:19):
that it wasn't a straight down the middle, that it
was a little bit left of center newspaper at times,
but it wasn't for on left wing propaganda, which is
what it became.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We didn't they have George will Maybe he's still he's
kind of a Democrat now, but Kronheimer and uh, you know,
there there were people who were making the real the
conservatives choice for making conservative arguments to really talented people.
What happened to the Washington Post had turned into a
place where the conservatives were people who made the case
(12:50):
for why conservatives were wrong all the time. For the
amusement of Democrats. But that's just what the New York
Times does. Now to the Lincoln Project, guys like.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
All of the Trump is going to destroy the world,
and like they're really just Democrats who are getting money
by pretending to have been Republicans. Yes, the whole thing
is faked, and all that fakery, all that falseness, falsehood,
whatever is kind of coming due.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, people are seeing the bill is coming due.
People are seeing this for what it really was. And
so again, I think this is part of the feeling
that when Trump comes into office, Yes, everything he does
they're going to oppose. Yes, they're going to exaggerate, and
but the old machinery of holding Trump back and creating
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Speaker 2 (14:54):
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of you hanging out with as we are rolling through
the Thursday edition of the program, getting ready for a
big trip to d C, when many of us are
going to be ecstatic to see Donald Trump raising his
right hand a little bit less than four days from
(15:16):
now and buck on the TikTok front. You think that
there is going to like He's TikTok is supposed to
shut down on Sunday. You think Trump has got something
in his back pocket that it's not going to happen,
and TikTok is just going to keep right on, rolling
right along as if there were no band coming.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
This may be me hoping more than it is me analyzing,
because as I've told you all, I like, we have
a lot of people that like TikTok in this audience.
I might add I was not alone on that. I
was surprised how many VIPs and callers and others we
had that say, there's some really good content, really great
like diy in your home, how to you know, grout
tie just stuff like that. I mean, this this is
(15:57):
why people are like it's a Chinese spying app. I'm like,
I don't know what kind of learn how to make
the bed properly with it anyway. I think that Trump.
It's funny. The reporting on this is that people have
pointed out to Trump, probably from within the TikTok universe,
that he's very popular on TikTok and there you know,
(16:17):
he's got a huge following on TikTok, and there's a
lot of pro Trump content on TikTok. I don't think
he's gonna let the whole thing just get squashed, get
crushed because of a Biden administry. Remember he didn't shut
this thing down. It was a Biden administration move to
shut this thing down. I know it was bipartisan on
the congressional side, but Biden had to sign it.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Let me just point some it out that we'll drive
people really barkers. There is a segment of social media
that is very active that believes a part of the
TikTok solution could involve the acquisition of truth Social, Trump's
social media company. In fact, True Social stock has been
up substand in the past week or so. If there
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is a solution that leads to truth Social somehow being
combined with TikTok and Twitter x and all these other
different social media companies, you are going to see a
panic set in the likes of which you have never
seen before, because Trump right now has I think like
a five billion dollar steak in truth and this would
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be one of the greatest media coups of all time
if there is an exit strategy there. I have no
idea if that's true or not. I'm just telling you
there is a segment of the community out there that
believes that the save salvation of TikTok could be connected
to truth social in some way. And boy, oh boy,
bunckle up if that is the trajector we are headed for.
(17:48):
But I just think all those guys being there Buck
is a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Back into Clay and Buck. I just saw this before,
and I didn't know. I didn't know it until a
moment ago. But the incoming national security advisor for Trump,
Mike Waltz, Congress and Walla's former Special Forces guy a
good dude. He said on Fox earlier day, this is
cut twenty, that they're not going to let TikTok go dark. Actually,
(19:23):
so here's what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
We will put measures in place to keep TikTok from
going dark. In the legislation allows for an extension as
long as a viable deal is on the table. And
you know essentially that US President Trump time to keep
TikTok going. It's been a great platform for him and
his campaign to get his America First message out. But
at the same time, he wants to protect their data.
(19:46):
You know, conservatives don't want the FBI, and they certainly
don't want the Chinese communists getting their passwords, getting their
data and being able to overly influence the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Now, it's interesting that there's this there's this change that's
occurred with X and now Facebook and now maybe TikTok.
Where the Internet overall, the Internet as it is used
by people, right, I mean, obviously there's endless websites and ends,
but a huge when you look at the traffic numbers
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of what people actually do online. First of all, I
mean YouTube takes up a huge portion of online traffic,
you know, certainly in the US and more broadly globally.
But you know TikTok. Well, here here's CNN's data guy,
Harry Engine talking about American teenagers usage of TikTok. This
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is twenty one.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I don't know if you have any teenage members or
your family, but if you ever look at their phone,
they seem to be addicted to and they're scrolling through
What are they scrolling through?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're scrolling through TikTok.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I mean, my goodness, gracious, two thirds of teenagers use TikTok.
It is more popular than Instagram, more popular than Snapchat.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Facebook's for old fuddy dotties like myself.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Just thirty two percent of teenagers use this fucking Twitter x,
which is my favorite platform to be all on. It's
just seventeen percent. And it's not just that they love TikTok.
Teenagers are addicted to TikTok. TikTok's got a hold of them.
Fifty percent of teenagers use TikTok several times a day.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So if TikTok went audios.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And egos, this would have a major impact on the
daily lives of teenagers, at least in your life.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So, Claire, I mean, I think this stuff is really
important in many ways, but one of them is as
the left. As social media became the dominant method of
online communication, and the left tightened its grip it was
able to move this. This coincided with wokeness. This coincided
with the far left lurch of the Democrat Party in
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this country because they controlled the information pipeline essentially, and
we're moving into an era where they won't have that
the way they have in the past, and maybe maybe
a more free Internet than we've seen since the earliest
days of the Internet could be on the horizon. I also,
I think.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
This ties in with Elon Musk leading the charge and
taking the slings and arrows first, not only in buying
X but in just being outspoken. There was an Axios
report that I was reading this morning, Buck that said,
and it didn't name the CEO, but one of the
CEOs said, I don't have to worry about getting canceled anymore.
I can say whatever I'm paraphrasing him, whatever the f
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I want.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And for a.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Long time people knew that this was all bs. Like
you and I would talk to really successful guys running
companies privately and they would say, yeah, we agree with
pretty much everything you guys say, and you'd be like, well,
you know, you're not really outspoken publicly. We'd be like, well,
I'm worried about might get canceled, right, And I get it.
(22:45):
If you're making thirty million dollars a year to run
company X. A lot of those guys just say, hey,
PR write me an email talking about how much I
like DEI and how committed to diversity and inclusion we
all are, and then it just under their names. And
the reality is they've thought it was complete crap, but
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they felt like that's what they needed to do. Now
you can call it cowardice. You can also call it.
What I think often happens politically is it's astounding to
me how many politicians want to get in office and
then not get noticed for doing anything. You notice that,
like most politicians actually don't want to lead the charge.
They want to stay like three or four rows back
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and just keep getting reelected, not really take that much flak,
not take that much criticism, stay under the radar. That's
one of the things that's kind of astounded me as
I've moved more into the political universe is how many
cowards there are in politics. And I think it's true
certainly in big business and everywhere else. The elon musks
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of the world are rare, but when they rise up.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
All of a sudden you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't think that it's a coincidence that Jeff Bezos
and Mark Zuckerberg are suddenly getting way more outspoken in
the wake of Elon. They saw, Oh, Elon went through
the fire, he took all the charge and his companies
are doing fine. So there isn't an ability to cancel.
And this is where I also came back with We
were talking yesterday or day before about the Pete hag
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seth hearing. Going after somebody for private personal failings feels
very old to me. Now it feels like it's played out.
Maybe it's gonna change, but it feels to me like
the cancel culture of oh my goodness, twenty five years ago,
you did X, and now you're not allowed to have
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a job doing Why. Remember when's the last time somebody
got canceled for a joke?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Buck?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Remember when comedians they were going back through their old
jokes and they were like, this is really problematic humor.
Back in two thousand and one, you know, like he
or she said this and they need to apologize for this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think that there was a there was a left
wing mass hysteria in this country that really reached its
Pinnacle during COVID, but it was enabled largely by there
by the dominance the left had of online media platforms
which were just aggressively promoting some things and censoring and
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destroying other things, other ideas, and it was you know,
people use the term Orwellian, but it was very Orwellian
in feel, and it was something that the demo people say, oh, Biden,
and I know people say, oh, you Geet did and
everything else. Well, there are a lot of things that
were rigged about the twenty twenty election. One of the
biggest ones, and there's no debate about this, was that
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the social media platforms went all in on on electing
Donald I mean on electing Joe Biden and defeating Donald
Trump something else. I think it is interesting, and we
got a we got a VIP wrote in about this
a second ago. I'm trying to find it right now, Clay,
but I mean I remember the basics of it, and
it's these individuals, you know, you can't you can't trust them.
(25:55):
These here we go VIP from email from Ken. He writes,
the support MP is getting from Bezos, Zuckerberg, Coca Cola,
it's all fake. They're all still flaming leftists. The hysteria
isn't gone, it's just in remission. These people are in
survival mode and they're trying to avoid Trump's wrath. Let's
deal with this for a second, shall we. I think
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this is interesting because on the one hand, I understand
the concern that somebody who has been on the right
for five minutes being elevated to a leadership position on
the right in some respect is concerning. But I also
feel like when people start to do the right thing
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and say the right thing, how long do you ignore
them before you allow them to actually change their mind? Right?
So I think we can be aware of all these things.
Is for Bezos and Zuckerberg and others, is closing up
the Trump good business right now? Yes? And I think
we're aware of that. Has there been a longer term
trend of these guys realizing the madness that has occurred
(26:59):
with the left in the country, the anti business stuff,
the communist mindset that they have. I think that's also
the case. And to your point about Elon breaking down
the barriers, I think we are in a different I
think that it's people are more free now to be
rational than they've been in a long time, and we
don't want to shut down those pathways just because they
(27:19):
haven't been in the game for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Most people don't stand on principle, They stand on self interest.
So that position from the emailer is not inaccurate in
some respects, but it is a significant cultural shift that
standing on self interest now means you support more freedom
and less censorship. So I can either sit around and say, oh,
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I don't trust them anymore, but at least they're making
the right choices. And this is the consequence I think
of the popular vote election and Elon leading the charge.
Let me make a historical analogy for you, Buck, the
investigation into communism, which in many ways was valid of McCarthy.
(28:08):
In retrospect, people say it ended when that argument, have
you no decency? That is now famous for people who
study history. I don't know that it occurred.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
In that moment.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The next day on radio, I don't know that people
were like, hey, this era is over. I do think
historically there is going to be an argument that Elon
buying Twitter was the line of cultural demarcation from which
the woke era, the me too era, this America is awful.
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Sixteen to nineteen Project Tear down the Washington Monument rename
Washington DC BLM is justified in burning down all of
these police stations. I do think the line of cultural demarcation,
this is my prediction years into the future, may well
look to historians there because remember what Elon said. He's
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made a lot of money. He said he wasn't buying
Twitter to try to make a ton of money. Now
he still may make money off of Twitter, but he
said he was doing it to save free speech in
the country, and that if he had to lose money
as a consequence, that he was willing to do so
because he's making money so many other places. And now
it is in the self interest of the Zuckerbergs and
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the Elons and the Zuckerbergs and the Bezos is to
follow in the footsteps of Elon. But that doesn't mean
I forgive Mark Zuckerberg for bowing down to the Biden
censorship request. Again, most of these guys don't stand on principle.
They move in the self interest of their corporations, and
Trump winning means that their self interest is now for
(29:49):
more free speech. All of you who voted Trump, we
should be applauded because we've made this happen. And oh,
by the way, we may have ended the war in
the Middle East too, and we may soon end the
war Europe. That's the consequence of Trump winning an election.
I think we should celebrate it as opposed to sit
around and whine about things we didn't like in the past.
(30:12):
But I also agree with you, Buck, just because somebody's
on your side right now doesn't mean they should be
lionized as some great principled warrior. It just means we
won some battles and now they recognize they're going to
get their ass kicked if they don't been the knee.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This is one of the failings of the right in general,
is that anytime, especially if somebody has a little bit
of celebrity sizzle, even just a little bit, and they
come out and say, you know what, I want to
be on your team. Now we're ready to elect them president,
you know, everyone needs to slow their role sometimes, Okay.
And also I think I do think it's worth remembering, well,
there have been some people who have been trying to
(30:48):
convince people to come over into the light of righteousness,
truth and sanity for a long time. So I don't
think that we should necessarily take what is new. The
new shiny object on the right is a is a
phenomenon that people need to calm down on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And to your point, also, a lot of us bore
real consequences for saying what we did at times when
it was not popular to say what they did. I
ebuck your deluge when he said, hey, we got to
open the country back up by easter, which you were
one hundred percent right about. When I said, hey, we
got to play sports and open up all the schools
and went and spoke even at our school board, you
(31:25):
should see what I got like. It's easy to stand
on principle when people pat you on the back. It's
hard to stand on principle when the response is, go
to hell, you want everybody's grandma dead, You're an awful
human being. A lot of us actually went through those fires,
and I do think that should matter. And by the way,
(31:46):
I do believe in the larger marketplace of ideas. The
reason we have the biggest radio show in the country
is because I think the weighing mechanism of the public
a lot of people recognize we're right. The reason why
we've continued to build an audience all through twenty twenty
four for the election is because we were right about
a lot of that stuff too. So over time, I
believe the truth wins, and being honest and standing on principle,
(32:09):
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But boy, those fires can be strong and the opposition
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Speaker 2 (33:52):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I know a lot of our listener up in Milwaukee
are mourning a bit today and certainly all over the
nation as well. Ninety year old Bob Yuker, who was
the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, memorably starred in Major League,
which I think may well be the funniest sports movie
that has ever been made. Has passed away today. Buck,
(34:22):
I think you got the team wrong on this show,
much to your brother's chagrin. The Cleveland Indians was that
franchise back in the day. But we pulled a couple
of clips. I had the team pull a couple of
clips of Bob Yuker to memorialize him. And I know
again many of you in the state of Wisconsin, but
(34:43):
everywhere here is probably the most famous line if you
remember the awful Cleveland Indians franchise in that year. He
was the radio announcer and the pitches would be awful,
but in the words of Bob Uker, they were always
just a bit outside. Listen to cut twenty seven on.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Into the line up. In his first offering, Jos the
bit outside. He tried the corner in mist.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
All four, all eight, Loanva has walked the bases loaded
on twelve straight pitches.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Boy, how can these guys lay off pitches that close?
I mean, what was wild time?
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He was Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Charlie Sheen throwing those pitches, Rick wild Thing Vaughn And
if you watch the video, it's even funnier. How could
these guys lay off these pitches? Pitches are nowhere near
the strike zone. He walks the bases loaded almost immediately.
Here's another one for those of you who remember. I
think it was the Miller like commercials back in the day.
He would sit in the upper deck, Buck and talk
about the fact that he was in the front row.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You don't learn the best things about being an X
big leaguers getting previous to the game, call the front
office bingo. And once these fans recognized me, I probably
won't even have to pay for my life care from Diller.
I love him these fans.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
No.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I drink life because it's less filling and it tastes great.
Good seat, sir, I'm in a wrong shape, buddy.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Come on, oh, I almost be in the front row
like beer from Miller. Everything you always wanted in a
beer unless.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Let's seets.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Hey, buddy, he missed a tack.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He missed attack.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Just an amazing guy, Buck, And I know you love
Major League If your kids haven't watched it, and they
get to be thirteen or fourteen years old. It's a
great movie from the eighties to go back and watch
with him. But rest in peace, Bob Ucker. We know
a lot of people all over the country are going
to miss him. He's one of the true legends.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Of his era. What are you gonna take us into
third hour, mister Clay?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Do you remember ESPN didn't cover the national anthem and
the moment of silence before the Sugar Bowl. After the
terror attack, one of their top executives has weighed in
and he's apologizing to the nation.
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now
and got a lot to talk to you about. We
are still waiting to get more updates here on the ceasefire.
He's Net and Yahoo. The Prime Minister trying to pull
it all together here, get this done. Also, TikTok, the
(00:23):
CEO of TikTok is going to be attending Trump's inauguration.
I think that Trump the Showman has something up his
sleeve here, has some things in mind that will keep
TikTok online. It was kind of sad. I was looking
at some TikTok yesterday and the people, some of the
(00:47):
content creators were doing kind of you know, I put this,
They were doing like I'm sorry. You know, you can
have like Sarah McLaughlin music play in the background or
something like it's been great. You know, I've enjoyed being
a content creator for all of you. Is very kind
of bummed out watching this. It's like, oh man, cause
(01:09):
I've never seen this before. And the whole history of Facebook,
Facebook has never just said we're shutting down. Same thing
with Instagram, same thing with I mean, even Twitter when
it was acquired, never shut down. And TikTok is supposed
to go offline right now on Sunday. I think it's
going to be salvaged in some way. I don't think
it's actually going to go offline entirely. We shall see.
(01:32):
There's some very interesting possibilities there. But Clay, it also
makes me think about what a massive realignment is occurring
within the media right now. I think that the absolute
worst point for press freedom and press honesty, whether we're
talking social media or the longstanding news entities like The
(01:57):
New York Times, CNN, et cetera, was the Biden era
of COVID in particular. I think that's when things got
completely out of control. And we've seen that. I mean,
we've seen this with the Twitter files. We've seen this
with the collusion with the government that occurred to have
the Biden administration shutting people down for things that were
(02:20):
not only were they not supposed to be shutting people down,
they were often shutting them down for things that were true, right,
So they were using the power of censorship to suppress truthful,
accurate information, which is even more totalitarian feeling. So that's
why it's interesting, Clay to me that we see the
(02:42):
Washington Post, which went full communists under Trump's time both
in office and then under Biden. But when completely wacko
with democracy dies in darkness, you know what Trump want
and democracy's not dead. In fact, the country's doing just fine,
thank you. I'm gonna be doing a whole lot better
in the next year. Now you see this, Clay, the
(03:04):
new Washington Post mission, new mission statement. They've had to
change it from Democracy dies in darkness, which as a guy,
your estrogen levels rise dramatically when you just say it
out loud. Your voice gets hired. Democracy dies in darkness.
The new Washington Post mission statement is riveting storytelling for
(03:27):
all of America. Wow, you mean there's going to be
a newspaper that is trying to just tell people the
news instead of being a DNC propaganda rag. Do you
think that this is actually gonna take Is it gonna hold? Clay?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, first of all, this is anytime you have one
of these slogans, by and large, they get a ton
of people sitting around and they end up with something
that is very, very bland. So again, riveting story telling
for all of America.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's the mission statement.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
If they actually follow through, then credit to Jeff Bezos
for altering the trajectory of the newspaper that he bought,
Democracy Dies in Darkness?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is it going to come off the masthead? Is that official?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Because I can imagine that the Washington Post reporters will
lose their mind if you take Democracy Dies in Darkness
off of the masthead. But I do think what it's
emblematic of, and this is important, and I think it
matters you're going to have in theory, Buck Mark Zuckerberg
of Facebook Meta Bezos, who runs Amazon as well as
(04:43):
owns the Washington Post, Elon, who obviously has like eighty
different companies including X and SpaceX and Ai X and
Xai I guess it is, and obviously Tesla, all these
different companies. You're now going to evidently have the TikTok
CEO all sitting in positions of honor at the inauguration
(05:06):
near the cabinet. And did you see something yesterday that
to me ties in with this. Margo, who runs much
of Trump's behind the scenes social media, tweeted this out
and I didn't see it get a lot of attention,
but Diet Coke made a special inauguration Diet Coke honorarium
(05:27):
for Trump. Now, a lot of you out there might
be saying, Okay, Clay, why does that matter. First of all,
Trump drinks diet coke like water. I mean, the guy
just pounds diet cokes all day long. He loves them.
We've done interviews Buck where they just keep preaking in
new diet cokes and pumped the Trumps, just popping them,
pounding them, popping, pounding, and I think Ewan Musk now
(05:47):
it's gotten in on the diet coke obsession and many
of you out there. It's got the caffeine, it doesn't
have the calories. I'm not trying to sell diet coke,
but a lot of people love it. Okay, So they
would have never done this in sixteen Bucks, the CEO
of Coke never would have shown up at mar A
Lago and been saying, hey, congratulations, President Trump, here is
(06:08):
a diet coke in your honor. It seems like a
small thing, but combined with Bezos, combined with Zuckerberg, combined
with Musk, the resistance is dead. And even the Washington
Post changing the masththead. Remember they put that in place
in twenty sixteen when it was like Trump won the
president Russia put him there. All of corporate America is
(06:32):
basically now saying we're glad Trump won and we're no
longer fighting him. And I think it sets the table
for an amazing twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six
for Trump, where truly much of America finally gets back
in line together and says, this is our guy. He's
the president, and we want him to kick ass. And
the resistance and the whole cancel culture it's dead. And
(06:56):
I do think that diet coke thing, which seems small,
is actually incredibly emblematic of the culture shift that we've
seen since Trump won in November.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well, it's a it's a huge change in sentiment from
a lot of companies, and I think the the corporate
culture more broadly uh has Now there's been this breakthrough
where you've had people walking away from or ending very
ideologically intense DEI stuff. You've had people that feel like,
(07:33):
you know, enough is enough with some of the more
woke policies that corporate America has embraced. Now, that's cases
here and there, it's that's not really across the board.
But I do think there's been a taming of the
anti Trump media that has occurred that is far beyond
what anybody could have anticipated even a year ago, where
(07:54):
now they you know, they're they're still critical, but and
they still are opposing Trump. But the hysteria thing, it
had turned into a hysteria contest. And I spent way
too much time, as you all know, watching Democrat media
against Trump during the Biden years, because I always want
to know what they're saying. You couldn't get anybody to
(08:18):
watch your monologue if you were a Democrat on TV
and you weren't saying that Trump, you know, led an
insurrection and as a threat to democracy, there was no lee.
There was no audience for you. There was no leeway
to do something that was less crazy than that. Just
as when Trump was in office, there was no room
(08:38):
for you to be a Democrat with an audience and
a voice that had, you know, impact on that side.
There was no room for you unless you were willing
to say that Trump is a Russian stooge and Russia
collusion and Russia stole the election. That now has faded,
and I think they're finding themselves in a position where
(08:59):
they've exhausted to the hysteria of their own side. I
think that's what the Washington Post is reacting to at
some level. I mean, the old democracy dies in darkness. Remember,
it's not like that was their slogan for one hundred years.
And then Trump happened to be president and they got more. No,
they in twenty seventeen, they decided this was their you know,
(09:19):
they were hashtag resistance. The Washington Post, which is really
the second most i don't know, venerated by the elite,
certainly within DC, the most venerated newspaper, and it became
a hashtag resistance entity and completely abandoned the mission of
(09:39):
any kind of neutral or impartial reporting. I mean that
just was was a joke. The front page was just
all one big anti Trump's creed. So it's moving away
from that now. I don't see how they can get back.
I don't see how they can ramp things Upclay anytime soon.
So we're in a totally different media environment than we
had been in for eight years, and we're still figuring
(10:01):
out what that looks like. But so far it's all good.
I mean, so far, it's the good guys winning, the
bad guys losing and running for cover.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And remember all we're asking for it's just for everybody's
opinions to be treated the same Democrats are demanding that
their opinions be treated in a more favorable light. All
we're asking for is the rules to be applied evenly
and the principles of the marketplace of ideas to be
(10:32):
distributed evenly. And this is an analogy I've made Buck,
but I think it's so important, and I think even
it's gotten through to Jeff Bezos. If all of your
errors make Donald Trump look awful, you never have a
reporting error.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And I kind of have done this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I wrote it in my most recent book, but I said,
you know, there's never a story that comes out and
goes viral that Trump saved a kitten from drowning, and
then it comes back and it's like, actually, that story
didn't happen. If all of your stories about Trump that
are proven to be false all make him look worse,
(11:12):
that's not just a failure sometimes of reporting. Nobody's perfect.
Everybody gets things wrong. That's life, no matter what you
do for a living. But if you're truly unbiased, there
should be super positive Trump stories that it turns out
weren't true. Instead, every Trump story that's super negative is
(11:34):
the one that turns out not to be true. And
if I'm looking at that, and I'm Jeff Bezos, and
I spent two hundred and fifty million dollars to buy
The Washington Post, which, to be fair, is a pinprick
of the net worth of Jeff Bezos. It's like an
average person going out and buying a car for like
one thousand dollars. It's not even a high end car.
(11:56):
It's just part of his play money that he has decided.
That's the sign that your culture is rotten from the
inside and that you aren't actually doing stories that are
fair and appeal to everyone. And I've talked about this
in the evolution of the Washington Post. I went to
college in DC. You lived in DC. I enjoyed buying
the Washington Post and reading it. I mean, I knew
(12:19):
that it wasn't a straight down the middle, that it
was a little bit left of center newspaper at times,
but it wasn't for on left wing propaganda, which is
what it became.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
We didn't they have George will Maybe he's still he's
kind of a Democrat now, but Kronheimer and uh, you know,
there there were people who were making the real the
conservatives choice for making conservative arguments to really talented people.
What happened to the Washington Post had turned into a
place where the conservatives were people who made the case
(12:50):
for why conservatives were wrong all the time. For the
amusement of Democrats. But that's just what the New York
Times does. Now to the Lincoln Project, guys like.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
All of the Trump is going to destroy the world,
and like they're really just Democrats who are getting money
by pretending to have been Republicans. Yes, the whole thing
is faked, and all that fakery, all that falseness, falsehood,
whatever is kind of coming due.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
You know, people are seeing the bill is coming due.
People are seeing this for what it really was. And
so again, I think this is part of the feeling
that when Trump comes into office, Yes, everything he does
they're going to oppose. Yes, they're going to exaggerate, and
but the old machinery of holding Trump back and creating
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Welcome back in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with as we are rolling through
the Thursday edition of the program, getting ready for a
big trip to d C, when many of us are
going to be ecstatic to see Donald Trump raising his
right hand a little bit less than four days from
(15:16):
now and buck on the TikTok front. You think that
there is going to like He's TikTok is supposed to
shut down on Sunday. You think Trump has got something
in his back pocket that it's not going to happen,
and TikTok is just going to keep right on, rolling
right along as if there were no band coming.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
This may be me hoping more than it is me analyzing,
because as I've told you all, I like, we have
a lot of people that like TikTok in this audience.
I might add I was not alone on that. I
was surprised how many VIPs and callers and others we
had that say, there's some really good content, really great
like diy in your home, how to you know, grout
tie just stuff like that. I mean, this this is
(15:57):
why people are like it's a Chinese spying app. I'm like,
I don't know what kind of learn how to make
the bed properly with it anyway. I think that Trump.
It's funny. The reporting on this is that people have
pointed out to Trump, probably from within the TikTok universe,
that he's very popular on TikTok and there you know,
(16:17):
he's got a huge following on TikTok, and there's a
lot of pro Trump content on TikTok. I don't think
he's gonna let the whole thing just get squashed, get
crushed because of a Biden administry. Remember he didn't shut
this thing down. It was a Biden administration move to
shut this thing down. I know it was bipartisan on
the congressional side, but Biden had to sign it.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Let me just point some it out that we'll drive
people really barkers. There is a segment of social media
that is very active that believes a part of the
TikTok solution could involve the acquisition of truth Social, Trump's
social media company. In fact, True Social stock has been
up substand in the past week or so. If there
(17:04):
is a solution that leads to truth Social somehow being
combined with TikTok and Twitter x and all these other
different social media companies, you are going to see a
panic set in the likes of which you have never
seen before, because Trump right now has I think like
a five billion dollar steak in truth and this would
(17:27):
be one of the greatest media coups of all time
if there is an exit strategy there. I have no
idea if that's true or not. I'm just telling you
there is a segment of the community out there that
believes that the save salvation of TikTok could be connected
to truth social in some way. And boy, oh boy,
bunckle up if that is the trajector we are headed for.
(17:48):
But I just think all those guys being there Buck
is a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Back into Clay and Buck. I just saw this before,
and I didn't know. I didn't know it until a
moment ago. But the incoming national security advisor for Trump,
Mike Waltz, Congress and Walla's former Special Forces guy a
good dude. He said on Fox earlier day, this is
cut twenty, that they're not going to let TikTok go dark. Actually,
(19:23):
so here's what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
We will put measures in place to keep TikTok from
going dark. In the legislation allows for an extension as
long as a viable deal is on the table. And
you know essentially that US President Trump time to keep
TikTok going. It's been a great platform for him and
his campaign to get his America First message out. But
at the same time, he wants to protect their data.
(19:46):
You know, conservatives don't want the FBI, and they certainly
don't want the Chinese communists getting their passwords, getting their
data and being able to overly influence the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Now, it's interesting that there's this there's this change that's
occurred with X and now Facebook and now maybe TikTok.
Where the Internet overall, the Internet as it is used
by people, right, I mean, obviously there's endless websites and ends,
but a huge when you look at the traffic numbers
(20:17):
of what people actually do online. First of all, I
mean YouTube takes up a huge portion of online traffic,
you know, certainly in the US and more broadly globally.
But you know TikTok. Well, here here's CNN's data guy,
Harry Engine talking about American teenagers usage of TikTok. This
(20:38):
is twenty one.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I don't know if you have any teenage members or
your family, but if you ever look at their phone,
they seem to be addicted to and they're scrolling through
What are they scrolling through?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
They're scrolling through TikTok.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I mean, my goodness, gracious, two thirds of teenagers use TikTok.
It is more popular than Instagram, more popular than Snapchat.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Facebook's for old fuddy dotties like myself.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Just thirty two percent of teenagers use this fucking Twitter x,
which is my favorite platform to be all on. It's
just seventeen percent. And it's not just that they love TikTok.
Teenagers are addicted to TikTok. TikTok's got a hold of them.
Fifty percent of teenagers use TikTok several times a day.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So if TikTok went audios.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
And egos, this would have a major impact on the
daily lives of teenagers, at least in your life.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So, Claire, I mean, I think this stuff is really
important in many ways, but one of them is as
the left. As social media became the dominant method of
online communication, and the left tightened its grip it was
able to move this. This coincided with wokeness. This coincided
with the far left lurch of the Democrat Party in
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this country because they controlled the information pipeline essentially, and
we're moving into an era where they won't have that
the way they have in the past, and maybe maybe
a more free Internet than we've seen since the earliest
days of the Internet could be on the horizon. I also,
I think.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
This ties in with Elon Musk leading the charge and
taking the slings and arrows first, not only in buying
X but in just being outspoken. There was an Axios
report that I was reading this morning, Buck that said,
and it didn't name the CEO, but one of the
CEOs said, I don't have to worry about getting canceled anymore.
I can say whatever I'm paraphrasing him, whatever the f
(22:22):
I want.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And for a.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Long time people knew that this was all bs. Like
you and I would talk to really successful guys running
companies privately and they would say, yeah, we agree with
pretty much everything you guys say, and you'd be like, well,
you know, you're not really outspoken publicly. We'd be like, well,
I'm worried about might get canceled, right, And I get it.
(22:45):
If you're making thirty million dollars a year to run
company X. A lot of those guys just say, hey,
PR write me an email talking about how much I
like DEI and how committed to diversity and inclusion we
all are, and then it just under their names. And
the reality is they've thought it was complete crap, but
(23:05):
they felt like that's what they needed to do. Now
you can call it cowardice. You can also call it.
What I think often happens politically is it's astounding to
me how many politicians want to get in office and
then not get noticed for doing anything. You notice that,
like most politicians actually don't want to lead the charge.
They want to stay like three or four rows back
(23:27):
and just keep getting reelected, not really take that much flak,
not take that much criticism, stay under the radar. That's
one of the things that's kind of astounded me as
I've moved more into the political universe is how many
cowards there are in politics. And I think it's true
certainly in big business and everywhere else. The elon musks
(23:47):
of the world are rare, but when they rise up.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
All of a sudden you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I don't think that it's a coincidence that Jeff Bezos
and Mark Zuckerberg are suddenly getting way more outspoken in
the wake of Elon. They saw, Oh, Elon went through
the fire, he took all the charge and his companies
are doing fine. So there isn't an ability to cancel.
And this is where I also came back with We
were talking yesterday or day before about the Pete hag
(24:13):
seth hearing. Going after somebody for private personal failings feels
very old to me. Now it feels like it's played out.
Maybe it's gonna change, but it feels to me like
the cancel culture of oh my goodness, twenty five years ago,
you did X, and now you're not allowed to have
(24:33):
a job doing Why. Remember when's the last time somebody
got canceled for a joke?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Buck?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Remember when comedians they were going back through their old
jokes and they were like, this is really problematic humor.
Back in two thousand and one, you know, like he
or she said this and they need to apologize for this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think that there was a there was a left
wing mass hysteria in this country that really reached its
Pinnacle during COVID, but it was enabled largely by there
by the dominance the left had of online media platforms
which were just aggressively promoting some things and censoring and
(25:10):
destroying other things, other ideas, and it was you know,
people use the term Orwellian, but it was very Orwellian
in feel, and it was something that the demo people say, oh, Biden,
and I know people say, oh, you Geet did and
everything else. Well, there are a lot of things that
were rigged about the twenty twenty election. One of the
biggest ones, and there's no debate about this, was that
(25:32):
the social media platforms went all in on on electing
Donald I mean on electing Joe Biden and defeating Donald
Trump something else. I think it is interesting, and we
got a we got a VIP wrote in about this
a second ago. I'm trying to find it right now, Clay,
but I mean I remember the basics of it, and
it's these individuals, you know, you can't you can't trust them.
(25:55):
These here we go VIP from email from Ken. He writes,
the support MP is getting from Bezos, Zuckerberg, Coca Cola,
it's all fake. They're all still flaming leftists. The hysteria
isn't gone, it's just in remission. These people are in
survival mode and they're trying to avoid Trump's wrath. Let's
deal with this for a second, shall we. I think
(26:16):
this is interesting because on the one hand, I understand
the concern that somebody who has been on the right
for five minutes being elevated to a leadership position on
the right in some respect is concerning. But I also
feel like when people start to do the right thing
(26:36):
and say the right thing, how long do you ignore
them before you allow them to actually change their mind? Right?
So I think we can be aware of all these things.
Is for Bezos and Zuckerberg and others, is closing up
the Trump good business right now? Yes? And I think
we're aware of that. Has there been a longer term
trend of these guys realizing the madness that has occurred
(26:59):
with the left in the country, the anti business stuff,
the communist mindset that they have. I think that's also
the case. And to your point about Elon breaking down
the barriers, I think we are in a different I
think that it's people are more free now to be
rational than they've been in a long time, and we
don't want to shut down those pathways just because they
(27:19):
haven't been in the game for a long time.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Most people don't stand on principle, They stand on self interest.
So that position from the emailer is not inaccurate in
some respects, but it is a significant cultural shift that
standing on self interest now means you support more freedom
and less censorship. So I can either sit around and say, oh,
(27:46):
I don't trust them anymore, but at least they're making
the right choices. And this is the consequence I think
of the popular vote election and Elon leading the charge.
Let me make a historical analogy for you, Buck, the
investigation into communism, which in many ways was valid of McCarthy.
(28:08):
In retrospect, people say it ended when that argument, have
you no decency? That is now famous for people who
study history. I don't know that it occurred.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
In that moment.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The next day on radio, I don't know that people
were like, hey, this era is over. I do think
historically there is going to be an argument that Elon
buying Twitter was the line of cultural demarcation from which
the woke era, the me too era, this America is awful.
(28:43):
Sixteen to nineteen Project Tear down the Washington Monument rename
Washington DC BLM is justified in burning down all of
these police stations. I do think the line of cultural demarcation,
this is my prediction years into the future, may well
look to historians there because remember what Elon said. He's
(29:04):
made a lot of money. He said he wasn't buying
Twitter to try to make a ton of money. Now
he still may make money off of Twitter, but he
said he was doing it to save free speech in
the country, and that if he had to lose money
as a consequence, that he was willing to do so
because he's making money so many other places. And now
it is in the self interest of the Zuckerbergs and
(29:26):
the Elons and the Zuckerbergs and the Bezos is to
follow in the footsteps of Elon. But that doesn't mean
I forgive Mark Zuckerberg for bowing down to the Biden
censorship request. Again, most of these guys don't stand on principle.
They move in the self interest of their corporations, and
Trump winning means that their self interest is now for
(29:49):
more free speech. All of you who voted Trump, we
should be applauded because we've made this happen. And oh,
by the way, we may have ended the war in
the Middle East too, and we may soon end the
war Europe. That's the consequence of Trump winning an election.
I think we should celebrate it as opposed to sit
around and whine about things we didn't like in the past.
(30:12):
But I also agree with you, Buck, just because somebody's
on your side right now doesn't mean they should be
lionized as some great principled warrior. It just means we
won some battles and now they recognize they're going to
get their ass kicked if they don't been the knee.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This is one of the failings of the right in general,
is that anytime, especially if somebody has a little bit
of celebrity sizzle, even just a little bit, and they
come out and say, you know what, I want to
be on your team. Now we're ready to elect them president,
you know, everyone needs to slow their role sometimes, Okay.
And also I think I do think it's worth remembering, well,
there have been some people who have been trying to
(30:48):
convince people to come over into the light of righteousness,
truth and sanity for a long time. So I don't
think that we should necessarily take what is new. The
new shiny object on the right is a is a
phenomenon that people need to calm down on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And to your point, also, a lot of us bore
real consequences for saying what we did at times when
it was not popular to say what they did. I
ebuck your deluge when he said, hey, we got to
open the country back up by easter, which you were
one hundred percent right about. When I said, hey, we
got to play sports and open up all the schools
and went and spoke even at our school board, you
(31:25):
should see what I got like. It's easy to stand
on principle when people pat you on the back. It's
hard to stand on principle when the response is, go
to hell, you want everybody's grandma dead, You're an awful
human being. A lot of us actually went through those fires,
and I do think that should matter. And by the way,
(31:46):
I do believe in the larger marketplace of ideas. The
reason we have the biggest radio show in the country
is because I think the weighing mechanism of the public
a lot of people recognize we're right. The reason why
we've continued to build an audience all through twenty twenty
four for the election is because we were right about
a lot of that stuff too. So over time, I
believe the truth wins, and being honest and standing on principle,
(32:09):
even if sometimes people don't agree with you, does win.
But boy, those fires can be strong and the opposition
can be intense. What I'm telling you is a lot
of executives are spineless and they wait until the pressure
to stand on principle doesn't exist and it's easy to
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Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I know a lot of our listener up in Milwaukee
are mourning a bit today and certainly all over the
nation as well. Ninety year old Bob Yuker, who was
the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers, memorably starred in Major League,
which I think may well be the funniest sports movie
that has ever been made. Has passed away today. Buck,
(34:22):
I think you got the team wrong on this show,
much to your brother's chagrin. The Cleveland Indians was that
franchise back in the day. But we pulled a couple
of clips. I had the team pull a couple of
clips of Bob Yuker to memorialize him. And I know
again many of you in the state of Wisconsin, but
(34:43):
everywhere here is probably the most famous line if you
remember the awful Cleveland Indians franchise in that year. He
was the radio announcer and the pitches would be awful,
but in the words of Bob Uker, they were always
just a bit outside. Listen to cut twenty seven on.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Into the line up. In his first offering, Jos the
bit outside. He tried the corner in mist.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
All four, all eight, Loanva has walked the bases loaded
on twelve straight pitches.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Boy, how can these guys lay off pitches that close?
I mean, what was wild time?
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Right?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He was Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Charlie Sheen throwing those pitches, Rick wild Thing Vaughn And
if you watch the video, it's even funnier. How could
these guys lay off these pitches? Pitches are nowhere near
the strike zone. He walks the bases loaded almost immediately.
Here's another one for those of you who remember. I
think it was the Miller like commercials back in the day.
He would sit in the upper deck, Buck and talk
about the fact that he was in the front row.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You don't learn the best things about being an X
big leaguers getting previous to the game, call the front
office bingo. And once these fans recognized me, I probably
won't even have to pay for my life care from Diller.
I love him these fans.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
No.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
I drink life because it's less filling and it tastes great.
Good seat, sir, I'm in a wrong shape, buddy.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Come on, oh, I almost be in the front row
like beer from Miller. Everything you always wanted in a
beer unless.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Let's seets.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Hey, buddy, he missed a tack.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He missed attack.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Just an amazing guy, Buck, And I know you love
Major League If your kids haven't watched it, and they
get to be thirteen or fourteen years old. It's a
great movie from the eighties to go back and watch
with him. But rest in peace, Bob Ucker. We know
a lot of people all over the country are going
to miss him. He's one of the true legends.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Of his era. What are you gonna take us into
third hour, mister Clay?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Do you remember ESPN didn't cover the national anthem and
the moment of silence before the Sugar Bowl. After the
terror attack, one of their top executives has weighed in
and he's apologizing to the nation.
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