May 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump cites Daily Mail poll that shows his approval up 6 points. Rush from 2021 on Democrat attempts to break the bond between Trump and his voters. Trump senior adviser Stephen Miller on the Trump verdict and what comes next. Biden praises legal system, says nobody is above the law.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two, Clay and Buck get's going right now. We
are going to have our friend Stephen Miller coming up
at the bottom of this hour that's at the thirty mark,
give her take. And then next hour, just you know,
Caroline Leavitt of the Trump campaign will be with us.
We've been on Caroline for years, going back to when
(00:21):
she was running for Congress in New Hampshire. Now she
is one of the foremost spokespersons for Donald Trump, and
we'll talk to her about how this is going on.
We have reached out to know we can text Trump
adjacent people and say, hey, you want to have the
big guy call and talk to us. He's under gag
orders still as I understand it, which is the whole
(00:44):
thing is is completely nuts. But this is what we're
dealing with. But if the President were to decide today,
anytime next week, or any time between now and the election,
that he wants to call in, we would welcome that
and we would want to hear from him. So well,
we're keeping open that post stability. We just spoke to him,
I guess what, two weeks ago, and now we're continuing
(01:04):
to watch as he speaks out about what has happened
here and how outrageous this is. This is cut five.
We haven't played this one yet, have we about how
this is? Because you know, fundamentally, I think you're seeing
people who are switching from maybe some When I say people,
(01:26):
I'm talking about some of the voices online, some of
the I don't know, like Nikky Haley primary voters, and
some others who are saying, Okay, the stakes here are
actually even bigger than just whether Donald Trump wins this
election or not. The stakes here go to the very
core of what kind of a country we really live in.
(01:48):
And Donald Trump certainly understands that this is him. This
is cut five explaining what really is at stake here.
Play it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm out there, and I don't mind being out there
because I'm doing something for this country and I'm doing
something for our constitution. It's very important, far beyond me,
and this can't be allowed to happen to other presidents.
It should never be allowed to happen in the future.
But this is far beyond me. This is bigger than Trump.
This is bigger than me. This is bigger than my presidency.
(02:20):
And the people understand it because I just see a
poll just came out the Daily Mail. That was the
first one came out. Who's done last night right after
the verdict, where I'm up six points, six points from
what we already were. We were leading fairly substantially. We're
up six points in the Daily Mail poll. Now, maybe
(02:41):
other polls come out and says something differently, but a
lot of people have predicted it because the public understands
and they understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Clay the bump in the numbers so far now it's
not really that official. They've got to do some more polling.
But this is what we have anticipated and to me,
given where they are right now, what they've already done,
the unprecedented nature of this prosecution and now conviction, the
(03:12):
rigging of the entire system, They're only going to be
doubling and tripling down. This goes to why I think
they might push for an incarceration of Donald Trump. This
is also why I think I know the Supreme Court
isn't going to come back until probably late June, but
Jack Smith is going to, with the help of Judge Chuckkin,
move mountains to try to get that trial started as
(03:35):
well before the election if possible. Remember, if they started
before the election, and then Trump doesn't win, they'll settle
it after the election. They will definitely send him to
prison if they can get a conviction on that, and
he's not president. I think that goes without saying. So
this is the Biden re election campaign. We are seeing it.
(03:56):
This is a moment where we have to take stock
of what their plans are. But so far it has
not had the intended effect I think of turning public
opinion against Trump in the ways that they need it
to to win. But then again, they're cheating, so who knows.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I do think what you just hit on is incredibly important.
This matters a great deal. But the reason why the
entire Biden reelection campaign is focused on Trump is because
Biden has failed on inflation. He's failed on the border.
He's failed at keeping us out of war in Europe
(04:34):
and out of war in the Middle East. He has
failed on crime, he has failed on virtually everything that
all of you care about on a day to day basis.
They can't run on Hey, the economy's amazing because all
of you are paying seven percent mortgage rates right now
(04:57):
on your thirty year and win he came into office.
If you were fortunate enough to have a mortgage rate
locked up, you got two and a half or three
percent on it. Inflation was one point four percent when
Biden came into office. They do it on a year
by year basis, so they can argue, oh, it's only
(05:18):
three point four percent now, but you never unring the
inflation bell. You're paying over twenty percent more for everything
than you were before Joe Biden came into office. Groceries, gas, uh,
your fast food, everything that you have to purchase to
(05:41):
live on on a day to day basis is up
over twenty percent on average. And most of us have
not seen our paychecks grow by over twenty percent. So
you got a default pay decrease from Joe Biden's economic policies.
To say nothing. I was talking down here in Florida, Buck.
(06:04):
A lot of Memphis people come down to this beach
where I am for their summer vacations. I was talking
to a couple from Memphis the other day. They listened
to the show. They said, I couldn't believe when you
and Buck were talking about the Memphis crime rate. Memphis
has more murders now than New York City. There are
(06:27):
a lot of cities out there, Kansas City, Atlanta, Philadelphia
that don't necessarily get the same attention. People tend to
know what happens in New York City with crime. They
tend to know what happens in la There are a
lot of cities in the middle part of the country
where the crime rate is out of control. Nobody talks
(06:50):
about it. I just came from Washington, d C. Washington,
d C is at a twenty five year high on murder.
A lot of people not talking about this. There is
a deep well of discomfort in this country. And I think,
to your point, the reason why the Trump attacks are
not landing is most people have way more serious things
(07:14):
that they're worried about in their day to day life
than what happens to Donald Trump. But you see the
attack on Trump for what it is, which is a
furtherance on the attack of your way of life in America.
And I take it again, I'm angry, And you said
right off the top, you're angry. We are both really angry.
(07:37):
Anger's not a strategy.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So I had this conversation with my sixteen year old
last night. He's just finished his sophomore year in high school.
He was watching the news with me last night and
he couldn't really believe what was going on, and he
was angry. And I said to him, Hey, I want
you to go on graduate from high school, go to college,
sh become because I think he's got the skill set
(08:02):
to do it a lawyer and fight for the country
to actually make good decisions in the law. Because a
lot of people throw up their hands and they get
frustrated and they just don't want to engage. I want
all of you to engage legally in a really serious
way right now. If you can donate money, do it.
(08:23):
If you can volunteer, volunteer. If you can't do either
of those things, at least go vote yourself and buck
You know this, Find people who are persuadable and have
conversations with them and persuade them. There's a lot of
people out there, tens of millions who never vote, and
you know how, but they feel politically but they're just
disengaged because they're frustrated. They feel like their vote doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Talk to them. I would also say that this is
a that's a little bit like how I felt about
masks and Fauci and all that during COVID. This is
a true litmus test moment. Anybody out there who thinks
that what who thinks that this prosecution of New York
City was just and fair and righteous, is someone whose
(09:07):
opinion you cannot trust or listen to on any matter
of any importance whatsoever. And in fact, any Democrat who
goes along with this has malicious intent for the United States.
I mean, it is truly undermining and hurting the country.
This goes beyond I disagree with them. This is in
a dispute over you know, how many legal immigrants we
(09:30):
should take in every year, or what the tax code
should be, or anything like that. This is fundamental stuff.
This is foundational to this republic, and anybody who is
cheering this on is cheering on the destruction of the
country that we live in. That's honestly how I feel
about it. And I don't say that about a lot
of things. I'm not somebody who's prone to talk about,
you know, the other side as as doing irreparable damage
(09:54):
to the country on a whole range of issues, although
sometimes I do, but on this one, this is actually
too far. This is a moment that people will look
back on and they'll say, hopefully, wow, we came close
to really losing something precious in our society. But thank
god Trump won that election. But that's months away and
(10:16):
it is not a done deal.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The precedent that could be the history here is Trump
beats Biden, and Democrats go back and they say, trying
to put your chief political adversary in prison during an
election year turns off a huge percentage of the vote
and is a very poor decision because you know what
else could happen. Biden could win. And then people on
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the Democrat side will say, this is our game plan.
It doesn't matter who the Republican is. We'll find and
charge them with a crime somewhere in a blue city,
blue state jurisdiction where we have a rubber stamp jury
and we will put them in prison. And this is
how we win elections. And eventually, do you know what
(11:04):
that leads to. It leads to totalitarianism because as soon
as you start believing if you lose an election, not
only do you lose an election, but you and your
family go to prison, the stakes get a lot higher.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, this is something I know of from time in
the CIA, but also studying how intelligence and security services
work in much of the world. In a lot of places,
there's this there's this death spiral or freedom that occurs
because we're talking about the prosecution and incarceration of political opponents. Right, yes, well,
(11:39):
yeah that's bad. But also then even if somebody who
is in power doesn't want to do that to the
other team that's doing it, they recognize, well, crap, if
I lose, they're going to do it to me. So
now I'm justified in doing whatever i have to do
to stay in power. And I've got to put on
(12:00):
the brass knuckles and I've got to break rules and
go to extremes, and it just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
People think, you know, what is the what are the
security services? Intelligence services most focused on a lot of countries,
it's actually not security of like the people. It's the
security of the regime. It is keeping the people in
(12:21):
power in power. It's not about protecting the general public
from external threats or whatever that it is an obsession
in the Middle East, in Sub Saharan Africa, in Latin America.
You know, the people that are supposed to be monitoring security,
they're actually trying to make sure that the people that
are calling the shots and paying them right now stay
(12:43):
calling the shots and paying them for the foreseeable right.
So this is the consequences of this are truly destabilizing,
and it makes a society that had otherwise been free
to deteriorate very rapidly because you create a winner take
all scenario, right, everything becomes zero sum. Yes, And you know,
(13:04):
I don't see how we're not heading toward that. We
haven't even talked about this. The J six case is
happening at some point unless Trump wins and pardons himself.
I mean, if the JA six case is going to happen,
they're gonna get a guilty verdict on that one, everybody,
and they're going to lock him up. There's no question
in my mind. If they can get the J six
case to a trial to a verdict, he will be
(13:26):
convicted in DC, and the DC judge will try to
lock him up. Maybe the Supreme Court will intervene, you know,
maybe there are some other things that could happen, but
if that pattern continues, oh, they're absolutely sending him to
prison over that, absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And again it's not ending here because I see some
people say, well, just don't do X, or just don't
do Y, and you'll be fine. I've never been arrested
in my life. I don't believe I've ever committed a
crime in my life. If the Democrat apparatus decided to
(14:04):
investigate every tax filing I've ever made, if they decided
to investigate every public statement that I've ever made, they
would charge me with a crime. And that's not me
being unique. Every single one of you, if the Biden
Justice Department was sicked upon you, unless you are Jesus
Christ himself, they will find something that you have done
(14:28):
that violates the law, and they will charge you, and
they will try to put you in prison to And
this is where Trump is correct when he says it's
not just about me. And I hope he keeps hammering
this theme. The precedent set for what happens to Trump
will echo throughout the ages here. And that's why we
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Of sanity and insane World.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Wanted to
play a cut for you of Rush that has gone
viral that I think a lot of you will remember.
Let's play cut thirty two. This is right now echoing
on the internet. I think many of you will recall
it about Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Listen, I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I
know that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot
run again, because, make no mistake, they remain scared to
death of you, and they remain scared to death of Trump.
Trump's seventy five million, eighty million votes. And I'm going
to tell you you're not going anywhere even if Trump does.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You're not.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You know what, you believe, you know what your vision
for the country is. You're not going to give up
on it. You're not going to go packing away. They
believe that they can and they can destroy this bond
that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make
Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass
(17:11):
you about Trump. They can't do it because you came
before Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think that's well said, and many of you will
recall Rush speaking out in that manner. And this is
what's going on, Buck. They're trying to make it unacceptable
to vote for Trump for the people that they believe
are persuadable.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And they're also sending a message, and they've been doing
this for quite some time now that if you stand
with Trump, they will come after you. Look at what
they're doing to Steve Bannon, who isn't so interesting. Ver
Chan has a Steve Bannon case in New York too.
Look what they're doing to Alan Weiselberg, the geriatric accountant
who's been Center Riker's Downlook what they've done to Peter Navarro.
(17:54):
They're coming after a lot of people. Hor Look how
many economists have you heard, seen, or read that have
correctly predicted almost every financial and economic crisis in the
past twenty five years, Every huge swing up in the markets,
every huge swing down. Well, I know one, Porter Stansbury.
He's one of the smartest economists I know. I've known
(18:14):
Porter for years. Look you see what's going on right now.
He's got a documentary you need to watch, America's Last Election.
I think the title speaks for itself. America's Last Election
is the title of this documentary. In it, Porter warns
of what's coming, a major financial crisis that if you're
prepared for, you'll be okay. But if not, who knows
(18:37):
what's going to happen. Go watch it for free at
Last Election plot dot com. That's Last Election plot dot com.
You want to watch this documentary, America's Last Election. I've
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for by Porter and Company. All right, welcome back into
our operations center here for figuring out what we're going
(18:58):
to do. Given the guilty verdict against Donald Trump yesterday.
He's an outrage, We're angry, but we want to think
about the path forward. Stephen Miller joins us now. He's
the founder of America First Legal. He's also a former
senior advisor in the Trump White House to President Donald J. Trump. Steven,
if I were trying to pull together a list of
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people who could be in the room, so to speak,
with Trump figuring out the next moves, you would certainly
be very high on that list. What now, what do
we need to do and what do you want to
say to the people across the country who are listening,
who just feel like this is an absolute outrage.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Thank you very much for that. And so I'm going
to put on my private citizen slash campaign hat right now,
so I'm talking to you in that capacity so I
can speak very freely about campaign strategy. There is an
enormous uprising of public anger right now, of course, like
nothing that we have seen in recent memory, as evidenced
(20:04):
by multiple fundraising science crashing last night, people pouring out
into the streets of Manhattan, and just anybody who's on
social media and is watching and hearing, is listening, there's
just a massive change and the energy because they've martyred
Donald Trump. They've martyred him where they have turned the
most popular Republican politician in our lifetimes into an actual
(20:28):
political martyr, right a jailed freedom fighter, a political dissident
being threatened with life behind bars. And anybody who studied
history understands that you have to be incredibly careful if
you're running a fascist movement, as Joe Bidolos in making
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a martyred hero out of your political enemy, which is
what they have done here. Let's not forget, Let's be
very clear the number three at DOJ personally hand made
into this trial, and that, to be clear, you don't
do that unless you're doing it on behalf of and
for Joe Biden, because number three a DOJ the top
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three legal job in all of America. You don't go
be a line prosecutor unless it's part of a grander
political plan of strategy. The question then, is what do
you do with all of that anger, that outrage at
the hijacking of our democracy by a corrupt communist DA
and a corrupt communist Democrat Party. If the strategy is
(21:33):
just wait intol election day and hope everybody shows up
at the polls, that is a bad strategy. What needs
to happen right now is that the RNC and the
Republican Party need to be finding all of these what
they're called low propensity voters. These are people who don't
vote routine lee. They maybe didn't vote in the midterms,
maybe they've only voted one or two presidential elections in
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the last fifteen twenty years. Finding all of these low
propensity voters who are outraged about this verdict, and you
both if they're not registered, register them, and if registered,
you get them to fill out an application for a
mail in ballot, and then you chase that ballot. You
make sure that ballot gets delivered. There's millions and millions
of people out there who have very rarely or never voted,
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who are with Donald Trump. You will win the election
if you can get a significant portion of those ballots.
But that requires money, and it requires infrastructure, and it
requires physical door to door canvassing. You do those things,
and Joe Biden, the networcut Party aren't going to know
what hit them.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Stephen, I'm angry, and I imagine you are too. But
what I like to say is, anger's not a strategy.
And I love that you just laid out a strategy there.
You've also had a strategy to be filing lawsuits to
go after DEI and other issues immediately after this. I
think this is across the rubicon moment. Isn't it time
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for Republican county das for attorney generals to make Democrats
feel the pain and understand that if this is their
strategy to go after Donald Trump, he will not be
the first. He is the first, he will not be
the last that they go after in this way. Shouldn't
the same standards be applied if they can go get
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a rig jury in New York City. Shouldn't we go
get a rig jury in Alabama or rig jury in
Idaho or wherever those states are and start to hold
Democrats responsible for the lies that they have told that
are far more significant in nature than anything they've ever
accused Trump of.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Well, I mean, for one thing, Joe Baden is the
world's foremost human trafficker. Joe Biden is important, actual human
sex trafficking rings in the United States that are selling
girls and women into sexual slavery, and that's happening on
a daily basis. Amount of evil, the amount of sinister
and nick what is conduct that's taking place every single day,
(24:06):
sanctioned an engineered by the Democratic Party is beyond calculation.
I want to sort of drill down on the cruxy
your point, And obviously you mentioned that that had been
very active and filing lawsuits against the bad guys that
are ruining this country for the last three years now,
because that's an essential part of the answer. So here's
here's what's wrong, and here's what needs to be fixed.
(24:28):
The typical mid career Republican lawyer, so like, think about
like a fifty year old guy, he's got twenty years
left in his career and he's say County DA, or
he's a guy in a different administration at Maine Justice,
or he is a like a number two or number
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three in like a state AG's office. Right, he was
raised for a generation and being taught that the highest
virtue or Republican attorney is restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint.
When you have a radical left bent on demolishing and
bulldozing and pulverizing you, and the opposing force believes that
their highest virtue is to avoid conflict at all costs,
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this is a very predictable end, and it's called the
end of a free society. If you're not as aggressive
and defending a free society as the radical left is
in demolishing a free society, then you will live interianny.
And it is just that simple. We've seen it played
out throughout history over and over again. It is no
different now. And so my answer is that Republican das
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and Republican ags need to absolutely be pursuing valid criminal
charges against valid targets for true and actual crimes that
are being perpetrated against this country on a daily basis.
You have illegal censorship, you have illegal spine. You have
illegal human trafficking, you have financial fraud, you have financial crime.
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You have so many targets that you could be going after.
The diff diference is these aren't hoaxes. These are this
is real, substantial, significant criminal conduct that is taking place
on the left. Look at the Look at the NGOs
at the border that are directly involved in human smuggling
and trafficking. Look at how many left wing donors are
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pouring money into these organizations, key prominent left wing donors
pouring money into organizations that are facilitating human trafficking. So again,
you have so many targets to go after, but these
are legitimate targets. These are valid targets who are committing
actual crimes. So they go after our innocent people and
(26:38):
we don't even go after they're guilty people. That's the
fundamental problem here and that's what has to change.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Speaking the Steven Miller, former senior advisor to President Trump
Stephen between now and the election, for everyone who's listening,
which is what are your words of consolation? Is certainly
not what I want to go for here, But encouragement,
get people fired up, because I think there's a there
are a lot of people who feel a little despondent
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today at what can happen in this country and how
ugly politics has gotten because of these Democrats and their
hatred for Trump.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So what I would say is take a moment, if
you haven't already, take it right now during the commercial break,
and feel sorry for yourself and sorry for your country,
and feel very sad about it. Take a good five
minutes and do that, and then when that's done, decide
what you're gonna do about it. If the founding generation
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could shed their blood on the battlefield to give us
a free country, and successive generations could fight against evil,
fascist foreign regimes to preserve that freedom, you can get
out and organize one hundred to two hundred to three
hundred people to register to vote in the next month.
If people could shed their blood to save this country,
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become a ballot harvester, you could become a campus or
you can pick up the phone right now, good to
the organization. Good friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, call his
organization today. Don't wait until tomorrow. Even pick up the
phone today and say, me and my five best friends
want to join a grassroots army to register voters. Tell
me where and when to show up. Make a decision
today that you're going to be part of saving the
(28:21):
country because a lot of people have sacrificed more than
any of us can ever imagine. And of course you
have Donald Trump and his family right now enduring a
gauntlet of fire. If you could also ever imagine dealing
with these criminal trials, these hoax trials. So you, in
your own life can be part of the solution. Make
a decision today to turn the tears into action. Weep
(28:45):
for your nation, but then decide now we're going to
save our nation. And if you do that, then you
can stand there on November sixth and say we did it.
We want yesterday. Now we can save our country. Now
we can get our freedom back, and you'll regret it
for the rest of your life if you don't get
busy right now.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Really well said he's Steven Miller. He would be and
will be a big part of the Trump forty seven team.
We appreciate the time, sir, thank you. Look going on
right now, NBA finals are set, NHL has got two
different series going on to determine who's going to be
in the NHL Finals, and Major League Baseball is underway
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Appreciate him getting back to the White House to do
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his job, and this is what he said. Asked about
Trump and the conviction.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
The American principle that no one is above the law
was reaffirmed. Donald Trump was given every opportunity to defend himself.
It was a state case, not a federal case, and
it was heard by a jury of twelve citizens, twelve Americans,
twelve people like you, like millions of Americans who served
on juris. This jury is chosen the same way every
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jury in America has chosen. It was the process that
Donald Trump's attorney was part of. The jury heard five
weeks of evidence. Five weeks after careful deliberation, the jury
reached a unanimous verdict. They found Donald Trump guilty on
all thirty four felon accounts not only be given the
opportunity as he should to appeel that decision, just like
everyone else has that opportunity. That's how the American system
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of justice works. And it's reckless, it's dangerous. It's irresponsible
for anyone to say this was rigged just because they
don't like the verdict. Our justice system is a word
for nearly two hundred and fifty years and little is
a cornerstone of America. Our justice system. Justice should be respected.
We should never allow anyone to tear it down.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Can I just say, as this loathsome fraud Joe Biden
is saying all of this, we all know that there
was pressure to try to bail his son out from
facing the justice system, and that that effectively the Biden
connections prevented him from being prosecuted for obvious federal crimes
(32:31):
for years. And now Joe Biden's going to go out
there and lecture us on how nobody's above the law.
Never mind whether Joe Biden himself benefited from some of this.
He used his his connections and his power to shield
his son from the consequences of his law breaking, and
unsuccessfully only because it was so egregious and so long standing.
(32:54):
The illegal acts. And now he's standing for the country
and saying no one is above the law. Is he
going to give the same no one about the law
speech when he pardons his son. And that's assuming that
his son's found guilty. To your point, I think he
will be found guilty, but you know who knows. I
you need his one lib partisan on that jury.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think there's a chance that in Delaware no one
will convict the Biden. I think that's a very real chance,
even though this is not a complicated case. I mean,
he's clearly a drug addict who lied on a gun form,
and he clearly didn't pay millions of dollars in taxes
in California. But I think there's also the possibility that
no California juror will convict the Biden. I would also
(33:34):
point out that, in addition to the lectures about the law,
Biden has regularly said that the Supreme Court doesn't have
to be obeyed, and that he's bragged about defying what
the Supreme Court has told him to say. So this
idea of oh, the jury system is impartial, and it's
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reckless and unacceptable to in any way disparage the results
of a jury, the Supreme Court itself. Joe Biden has
come out and said he does not agree with their
decisions and he'll flat out defy them. I mean, look
at what he's doing in trying to eliminate debt, canceled debt,
(34:16):
as they say, even though the student loan debt isn't
being canceled, it's just being shifted from an obligation perspective
from the people who never took it out to the
people who from the people who did take it out
to the people who never took it out. That's what's
going on. And so I just Biden himself is the
(34:39):
vessel under which they are attacking the nation. And I
have said this, and some of you got mad at me.
A couple of years ago, I said, if Biden was
actually the person that he claimed to be, he would
have one never allowed these charges to be brought against Trump.
Because did you hear Steven Miller? This is important and
I want to hammer this home again. In the next hour,
(34:59):
We're going to talk to Caroline Levitt with the Trump
campaign about their massive fundraising successes here in a few minutes.
But Matthew Colangelo was the number three person in the
Biden Department of Justice, that is one of the most
powerful judicial figures in the nation. He left the number
three position in the Biden Department of Justice to help
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head up the state prosecution of Donald Trump in New
York City. But that's like going from Major League baseball
back to single A. You don't ever do that unless
Biden's involved directly himself.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Well, I was gonna say, does anyone think that if
we got his phone records and text messages that we
wouldn't see clear, clear coordination and updates going back to
the White House and the top of the DOJ about
what he's doing in New York City. Of course, of
course you'd have to be a fool to think that
he's not letting them know and coordinating with them what's
going on. But we'll never know because they'll never actually
(35:54):
pull that information. And the other side fights as dirty
as possible, and you know, we get lectures about decorum
from our own team. That's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And I think again, it contextualizes it. You're in the
major leagues, you're the number three guy in all the
Department of Justice, and suddenly you leave and go back
to prosecute cases in the New York State courtroom. Again.
That is moving from the major leagues to double A
or single A ball. Nobody ever does that this was
(36:26):
all coordinated, This was all designed by Joe Biden. If
he was the guy that he claimed he was, these
charges wouldn't have happened and or he would have pardoned
Trump from them. Remember Gerald Ford did this. Nixon never
faced any charges. He made the decision that was best
for the soul of the nation. Biden refuses to every
single day
Hour two, Clay and Buck get's going right now. We
are going to have our friend Stephen Miller coming up
at the bottom of this hour that's at the thirty mark,
give her take. And then next hour, just you know,
Caroline Leavitt of the Trump campaign will be with us.
We've been on Caroline for years, going back to when
(00:21):
she was running for Congress in New Hampshire. Now she
is one of the foremost spokespersons for Donald Trump, and
we'll talk to her about how this is going on.
We have reached out to know we can text Trump
adjacent people and say, hey, you want to have the
big guy call and talk to us. He's under gag
orders still as I understand it, which is the whole
(00:44):
thing is is completely nuts. But this is what we're
dealing with. But if the President were to decide today,
anytime next week, or any time between now and the election,
that he wants to call in, we would welcome that
and we would want to hear from him. So well,
we're keeping open that post stability. We just spoke to him,
I guess what, two weeks ago, and now we're continuing
(01:04):
to watch as he speaks out about what has happened
here and how outrageous this is. This is cut five.
We haven't played this one yet, have we about how
this is? Because you know, fundamentally, I think you're seeing
people who are switching from maybe some When I say people,
(01:26):
I'm talking about some of the voices online, some of
the I don't know, like Nikky Haley primary voters, and
some others who are saying, Okay, the stakes here are
actually even bigger than just whether Donald Trump wins this
election or not. The stakes here go to the very
core of what kind of a country we really live in.
(01:48):
And Donald Trump certainly understands that this is him. This
is cut five explaining what really is at stake here.
Play it.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm out there, and I don't mind being out there
because I'm doing something for this country and I'm doing
something for our constitution. It's very important, far beyond me,
and this can't be allowed to happen to other presidents.
It should never be allowed to happen in the future.
But this is far beyond me. This is bigger than Trump.
This is bigger than me. This is bigger than my presidency.
(02:20):
And the people understand it because I just see a
poll just came out the Daily Mail. That was the
first one came out. Who's done last night right after
the verdict, where I'm up six points, six points from
what we already were. We were leading fairly substantially. We're
up six points in the Daily Mail poll. Now, maybe
(02:41):
other polls come out and says something differently, but a
lot of people have predicted it because the public understands
and they understand what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Clay the bump in the numbers so far now it's
not really that official. They've got to do some more polling.
But this is what we have anticipated and to me,
given where they are right now, what they've already done,
the unprecedented nature of this prosecution and now conviction, the
(03:12):
rigging of the entire system, They're only going to be
doubling and tripling down. This goes to why I think
they might push for an incarceration of Donald Trump. This
is also why I think I know the Supreme Court
isn't going to come back until probably late June, but
Jack Smith is going to, with the help of Judge Chuckkin,
move mountains to try to get that trial started as
(03:35):
well before the election if possible. Remember, if they started
before the election, and then Trump doesn't win, they'll settle
it after the election. They will definitely send him to
prison if they can get a conviction on that, and
he's not president. I think that goes without saying. So
this is the Biden re election campaign. We are seeing it.
(03:56):
This is a moment where we have to take stock
of what their plans are. But so far it has
not had the intended effect I think of turning public
opinion against Trump in the ways that they need it
to to win. But then again, they're cheating, so who knows.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I do think what you just hit on is incredibly important.
This matters a great deal. But the reason why the
entire Biden reelection campaign is focused on Trump is because
Biden has failed on inflation. He's failed on the border.
He's failed at keeping us out of war in Europe
(04:34):
and out of war in the Middle East. He has
failed on crime, he has failed on virtually everything that
all of you care about on a day to day basis.
They can't run on Hey, the economy's amazing because all
of you are paying seven percent mortgage rates right now
(04:57):
on your thirty year and win he came into office.
If you were fortunate enough to have a mortgage rate
locked up, you got two and a half or three
percent on it. Inflation was one point four percent when
Biden came into office. They do it on a year
by year basis, so they can argue, oh, it's only
(05:18):
three point four percent now, but you never unring the
inflation bell. You're paying over twenty percent more for everything
than you were before Joe Biden came into office. Groceries, gas, uh,
your fast food, everything that you have to purchase to
(05:41):
live on on a day to day basis is up
over twenty percent on average. And most of us have
not seen our paychecks grow by over twenty percent. So
you got a default pay decrease from Joe Biden's economic policies.
To say nothing. I was talking down here in Florida, Buck.
(06:04):
A lot of Memphis people come down to this beach
where I am for their summer vacations. I was talking
to a couple from Memphis the other day. They listened
to the show. They said, I couldn't believe when you
and Buck were talking about the Memphis crime rate. Memphis
has more murders now than New York City. There are
(06:27):
a lot of cities out there, Kansas City, Atlanta, Philadelphia
that don't necessarily get the same attention. People tend to
know what happens in New York City with crime. They
tend to know what happens in la There are a
lot of cities in the middle part of the country
where the crime rate is out of control. Nobody talks
(06:50):
about it. I just came from Washington, d C. Washington,
d C is at a twenty five year high on murder.
A lot of people not talking about this. There is
a deep well of discomfort in this country. And I think,
to your point, the reason why the Trump attacks are
not landing is most people have way more serious things
(07:14):
that they're worried about in their day to day life
than what happens to Donald Trump. But you see the
attack on Trump for what it is, which is a
furtherance on the attack of your way of life in America.
And I take it again, I'm angry, And you said
right off the top, you're angry. We are both really angry.
(07:37):
Anger's not a strategy.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So I had this conversation with my sixteen year old
last night. He's just finished his sophomore year in high school.
He was watching the news with me last night and
he couldn't really believe what was going on, and he
was angry. And I said to him, Hey, I want
you to go on graduate from high school, go to college,
sh become because I think he's got the skill set
(08:02):
to do it a lawyer and fight for the country
to actually make good decisions in the law. Because a
lot of people throw up their hands and they get
frustrated and they just don't want to engage. I want
all of you to engage legally in a really serious
way right now. If you can donate money, do it.
(08:23):
If you can volunteer, volunteer. If you can't do either
of those things, at least go vote yourself and buck
You know this, Find people who are persuadable and have
conversations with them and persuade them. There's a lot of
people out there, tens of millions who never vote, and
you know how, but they feel politically but they're just
disengaged because they're frustrated. They feel like their vote doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Talk to them. I would also say that this is
a that's a little bit like how I felt about
masks and Fauci and all that during COVID. This is
a true litmus test moment. Anybody out there who thinks
that what who thinks that this prosecution of New York
City was just and fair and righteous, is someone whose
(09:07):
opinion you cannot trust or listen to on any matter
of any importance whatsoever. And in fact, any Democrat who
goes along with this has malicious intent for the United States.
I mean, it is truly undermining and hurting the country.
This goes beyond I disagree with them. This is in
a dispute over you know, how many legal immigrants we
(09:30):
should take in every year, or what the tax code
should be, or anything like that. This is fundamental stuff.
This is foundational to this republic, and anybody who is
cheering this on is cheering on the destruction of the
country that we live in. That's honestly how I feel
about it. And I don't say that about a lot
of things. I'm not somebody who's prone to talk about,
you know, the other side as as doing irreparable damage
(09:54):
to the country on a whole range of issues, although
sometimes I do, but on this one, this is actually
too far. This is a moment that people will look
back on and they'll say, hopefully, wow, we came close
to really losing something precious in our society. But thank
god Trump won that election. But that's months away and
(10:16):
it is not a done deal.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The precedent that could be the history here is Trump
beats Biden, and Democrats go back and they say, trying
to put your chief political adversary in prison during an
election year turns off a huge percentage of the vote
and is a very poor decision because you know what
else could happen. Biden could win. And then people on
(10:43):
the Democrat side will say, this is our game plan.
It doesn't matter who the Republican is. We'll find and
charge them with a crime somewhere in a blue city,
blue state jurisdiction where we have a rubber stamp jury
and we will put them in prison. And this is
how we win elections. And eventually, do you know what
(11:04):
that leads to. It leads to totalitarianism because as soon
as you start believing if you lose an election, not
only do you lose an election, but you and your
family go to prison, the stakes get a lot higher.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, this is something I know of from time in
the CIA, but also studying how intelligence and security services
work in much of the world. In a lot of places,
there's this there's this death spiral or freedom that occurs
because we're talking about the prosecution and incarceration of political opponents. Right, yes, well,
(11:39):
yeah that's bad. But also then even if somebody who
is in power doesn't want to do that to the
other team that's doing it, they recognize, well, crap, if
I lose, they're going to do it to me. So
now I'm justified in doing whatever i have to do
to stay in power. And I've got to put on
(12:00):
the brass knuckles and I've got to break rules and
go to extremes, and it just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
People think, you know, what is the what are the
security services? Intelligence services most focused on a lot of countries,
it's actually not security of like the people. It's the
security of the regime. It is keeping the people in
(12:21):
power in power. It's not about protecting the general public
from external threats or whatever that it is an obsession
in the Middle East, in Sub Saharan Africa, in Latin America.
You know, the people that are supposed to be monitoring security,
they're actually trying to make sure that the people that
are calling the shots and paying them right now stay
(12:43):
calling the shots and paying them for the foreseeable right.
So this is the consequences of this are truly destabilizing,
and it makes a society that had otherwise been free
to deteriorate very rapidly because you create a winner take
all scenario, right, everything becomes zero sum. Yes, And you know,
(13:04):
I don't see how we're not heading toward that. We
haven't even talked about this. The J six case is
happening at some point unless Trump wins and pardons himself.
I mean, if the JA six case is going to happen,
they're gonna get a guilty verdict on that one, everybody,
and they're going to lock him up. There's no question
in my mind. If they can get the J six
case to a trial to a verdict, he will be
(13:26):
convicted in DC, and the DC judge will try to
lock him up. Maybe the Supreme Court will intervene, you know,
maybe there are some other things that could happen, but
if that pattern continues, oh, they're absolutely sending him to
prison over that, absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And again it's not ending here because I see some
people say, well, just don't do X, or just don't
do Y, and you'll be fine. I've never been arrested
in my life. I don't believe I've ever committed a
crime in my life. If the Democrat apparatus decided to
(14:04):
investigate every tax filing I've ever made, if they decided
to investigate every public statement that I've ever made, they
would charge me with a crime. And that's not me
being unique. Every single one of you, if the Biden
Justice Department was sicked upon you, unless you are Jesus
Christ himself, they will find something that you have done
(14:28):
that violates the law, and they will charge you, and
they will try to put you in prison to And
this is where Trump is correct when he says it's
not just about me. And I hope he keeps hammering
this theme. The precedent set for what happens to Trump
will echo throughout the ages here. And that's why we
have to win. And that's why we have to win big. Look,
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Of sanity and insane World.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Wanted to
play a cut for you of Rush that has gone
viral that I think a lot of you will remember.
Let's play cut thirty two. This is right now echoing
on the internet. I think many of you will recall
it about Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Listen, I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I
know that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot
run again, because, make no mistake, they remain scared to
death of you, and they remain scared to death of Trump.
Trump's seventy five million, eighty million votes. And I'm going
to tell you you're not going anywhere even if Trump does.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You're not.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You know what, you believe, you know what your vision
for the country is. You're not going to give up
on it. You're not going to go packing away. They
believe that they can and they can destroy this bond
that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make
Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass
(17:11):
you about Trump. They can't do it because you came
before Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think that's well said, and many of you will
recall Rush speaking out in that manner. And this is
what's going on, Buck. They're trying to make it unacceptable
to vote for Trump for the people that they believe
are persuadable.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
And they're also sending a message, and they've been doing
this for quite some time now that if you stand
with Trump, they will come after you. Look at what
they're doing to Steve Bannon, who isn't so interesting. Ver
Chan has a Steve Bannon case in New York too.
Look what they're doing to Alan Weiselberg, the geriatric accountant
who's been Center Riker's Downlook what they've done to Peter Navarro.
(17:54):
They're coming after a lot of people. Hor Look how
many economists have you heard, seen, or read that have
correctly predicted almost every financial and economic crisis in the
past twenty five years, Every huge swing up in the markets,
every huge swing down. Well, I know one, Porter Stansbury.
He's one of the smartest economists I know. I've known
(18:14):
Porter for years. Look you see what's going on right now.
He's got a documentary you need to watch, America's Last Election.
I think the title speaks for itself. America's Last Election
is the title of this documentary. In it, Porter warns
of what's coming, a major financial crisis that if you're
prepared for, you'll be okay. But if not, who knows
(18:37):
what's going to happen. Go watch it for free at
Last Election plot dot com. That's Last Election plot dot com.
You want to watch this documentary, America's Last Election. I've
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for by Porter and Company. All right, welcome back into
our operations center here for figuring out what we're going
(18:58):
to do. Given the guilty verdict against Donald Trump yesterday.
He's an outrage, We're angry, but we want to think
about the path forward. Stephen Miller joins us now. He's
the founder of America First Legal. He's also a former
senior advisor in the Trump White House to President Donald J. Trump. Steven,
if I were trying to pull together a list of
(19:21):
people who could be in the room, so to speak,
with Trump figuring out the next moves, you would certainly
be very high on that list. What now, what do
we need to do and what do you want to
say to the people across the country who are listening,
who just feel like this is an absolute outrage.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Thank you very much for that. And so I'm going
to put on my private citizen slash campaign hat right now,
so I'm talking to you in that capacity so I
can speak very freely about campaign strategy. There is an
enormous uprising of public anger right now, of course, like
nothing that we have seen in recent memory, as evidenced
(20:04):
by multiple fundraising science crashing last night, people pouring out
into the streets of Manhattan, and just anybody who's on
social media and is watching and hearing, is listening, there's
just a massive change and the energy because they've martyred
Donald Trump. They've martyred him where they have turned the
most popular Republican politician in our lifetimes into an actual
(20:28):
political martyr, right a jailed freedom fighter, a political dissident
being threatened with life behind bars. And anybody who studied
history understands that you have to be incredibly careful if
you're running a fascist movement, as Joe Bidolos in making
(20:48):
a martyred hero out of your political enemy, which is
what they have done here. Let's not forget, Let's be
very clear the number three at DOJ personally hand made
into this trial, and that, to be clear, you don't
do that unless you're doing it on behalf of and
for Joe Biden, because number three a DOJ the top
(21:11):
three legal job in all of America. You don't go
be a line prosecutor unless it's part of a grander
political plan of strategy. The question then, is what do
you do with all of that anger, that outrage at
the hijacking of our democracy by a corrupt communist DA
and a corrupt communist Democrat Party. If the strategy is
(21:33):
just wait intol election day and hope everybody shows up
at the polls, that is a bad strategy. What needs
to happen right now is that the RNC and the
Republican Party need to be finding all of these what
they're called low propensity voters. These are people who don't
vote routine lee. They maybe didn't vote in the midterms,
maybe they've only voted one or two presidential elections in
(21:54):
the last fifteen twenty years. Finding all of these low
propensity voters who are outraged about this verdict, and you
both if they're not registered, register them, and if registered,
you get them to fill out an application for a
mail in ballot, and then you chase that ballot. You
make sure that ballot gets delivered. There's millions and millions
of people out there who have very rarely or never voted,
(22:18):
who are with Donald Trump. You will win the election
if you can get a significant portion of those ballots.
But that requires money, and it requires infrastructure, and it
requires physical door to door canvassing. You do those things,
and Joe Biden, the networcut Party aren't going to know
what hit them.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Stephen, I'm angry, and I imagine you are too. But
what I like to say is, anger's not a strategy.
And I love that you just laid out a strategy there.
You've also had a strategy to be filing lawsuits to
go after DEI and other issues immediately after this. I
think this is across the rubicon moment. Isn't it time
(23:01):
for Republican county das for attorney generals to make Democrats
feel the pain and understand that if this is their
strategy to go after Donald Trump, he will not be
the first. He is the first, he will not be
the last that they go after in this way. Shouldn't
the same standards be applied if they can go get
(23:24):
a rig jury in New York City. Shouldn't we go
get a rig jury in Alabama or rig jury in
Idaho or wherever those states are and start to hold
Democrats responsible for the lies that they have told that
are far more significant in nature than anything they've ever
accused Trump of.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Well, I mean, for one thing, Joe Baden is the
world's foremost human trafficker. Joe Biden is important, actual human
sex trafficking rings in the United States that are selling
girls and women into sexual slavery, and that's happening on
a daily basis. Amount of evil, the amount of sinister
and nick what is conduct that's taking place every single day,
(24:06):
sanctioned an engineered by the Democratic Party is beyond calculation.
I want to sort of drill down on the cruxy
your point, And obviously you mentioned that that had been
very active and filing lawsuits against the bad guys that
are ruining this country for the last three years now,
because that's an essential part of the answer. So here's
here's what's wrong, and here's what needs to be fixed.
(24:28):
The typical mid career Republican lawyer, so like, think about
like a fifty year old guy, he's got twenty years
left in his career and he's say County DA, or
he's a guy in a different administration at Maine Justice,
or he is a like a number two or number
(24:49):
three in like a state AG's office. Right, he was
raised for a generation and being taught that the highest
virtue or Republican attorney is restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint.
When you have a radical left bent on demolishing and
bulldozing and pulverizing you, and the opposing force believes that
their highest virtue is to avoid conflict at all costs,
(25:11):
this is a very predictable end, and it's called the
end of a free society. If you're not as aggressive
and defending a free society as the radical left is
in demolishing a free society, then you will live interianny.
And it is just that simple. We've seen it played
out throughout history over and over again. It is no
different now. And so my answer is that Republican das
(25:33):
and Republican ags need to absolutely be pursuing valid criminal
charges against valid targets for true and actual crimes that
are being perpetrated against this country on a daily basis.
You have illegal censorship, you have illegal spine. You have
illegal human trafficking, you have financial fraud, you have financial crime.
(25:56):
You have so many targets that you could be going after.
The diff diference is these aren't hoaxes. These are this
is real, substantial, significant criminal conduct that is taking place
on the left. Look at the Look at the NGOs
at the border that are directly involved in human smuggling
and trafficking. Look at how many left wing donors are
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pouring money into these organizations, key prominent left wing donors
pouring money into organizations that are facilitating human trafficking. So again,
you have so many targets to go after, but these
are legitimate targets. These are valid targets who are committing
actual crimes. So they go after our innocent people and
(26:38):
we don't even go after they're guilty people. That's the
fundamental problem here and that's what has to change.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Speaking the Steven Miller, former senior advisor to President Trump
Stephen between now and the election, for everyone who's listening,
which is what are your words of consolation? Is certainly
not what I want to go for here, But encouragement,
get people fired up, because I think there's a there
are a lot of people who feel a little despondent
(27:08):
today at what can happen in this country and how
ugly politics has gotten because of these Democrats and their
hatred for Trump.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So what I would say is take a moment, if
you haven't already, take it right now during the commercial break,
and feel sorry for yourself and sorry for your country,
and feel very sad about it. Take a good five
minutes and do that, and then when that's done, decide
what you're gonna do about it. If the founding generation
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could shed their blood on the battlefield to give us
a free country, and successive generations could fight against evil,
fascist foreign regimes to preserve that freedom, you can get
out and organize one hundred to two hundred to three
hundred people to register to vote in the next month.
If people could shed their blood to save this country,
(28:00):
become a ballot harvester, you could become a campus or
you can pick up the phone right now, good to
the organization. Good friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, call his
organization today. Don't wait until tomorrow. Even pick up the
phone today and say, me and my five best friends
want to join a grassroots army to register voters. Tell
me where and when to show up. Make a decision
today that you're going to be part of saving the
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country because a lot of people have sacrificed more than
any of us can ever imagine. And of course you
have Donald Trump and his family right now enduring a
gauntlet of fire. If you could also ever imagine dealing
with these criminal trials, these hoax trials. So you, in
your own life can be part of the solution. Make
a decision today to turn the tears into action. Weep
(28:45):
for your nation, but then decide now we're going to
save our nation. And if you do that, then you
can stand there on November sixth and say we did it.
We want yesterday. Now we can save our country. Now
we can get our freedom back, and you'll regret it
for the rest of your life if you don't get
busy right now.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Really well said he's Steven Miller. He would be and
will be a big part of the Trump forty seven team.
We appreciate the time, sir, thank you. Look going on
right now, NBA finals are set, NHL has got two
different series going on to determine who's going to be
in the NHL Finals, and Major League Baseball is underway
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Speaker 3 (30:37):
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bought Sexton show. Joe Biden just had a press conference
in the White House. He flew back from his beach home.
Appreciate him getting back to the White House to do
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his job, and this is what he said. Asked about
Trump and the conviction.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
The American principle that no one is above the law
was reaffirmed. Donald Trump was given every opportunity to defend himself.
It was a state case, not a federal case, and
it was heard by a jury of twelve citizens, twelve Americans,
twelve people like you, like millions of Americans who served
on juris. This jury is chosen the same way every
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jury in America has chosen. It was the process that
Donald Trump's attorney was part of. The jury heard five
weeks of evidence. Five weeks after careful deliberation, the jury
reached a unanimous verdict. They found Donald Trump guilty on
all thirty four felon accounts not only be given the
opportunity as he should to appeel that decision, just like
everyone else has that opportunity. That's how the American system
(31:50):
of justice works. And it's reckless, it's dangerous. It's irresponsible
for anyone to say this was rigged just because they
don't like the verdict. Our justice system is a word
for nearly two hundred and fifty years and little is
a cornerstone of America. Our justice system. Justice should be respected.
We should never allow anyone to tear it down.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Can I just say, as this loathsome fraud Joe Biden
is saying all of this, we all know that there
was pressure to try to bail his son out from
facing the justice system, and that that effectively the Biden
connections prevented him from being prosecuted for obvious federal crimes
(32:31):
for years. And now Joe Biden's going to go out
there and lecture us on how nobody's above the law.
Never mind whether Joe Biden himself benefited from some of this.
He used his his connections and his power to shield
his son from the consequences of his law breaking, and
unsuccessfully only because it was so egregious and so long standing.
(32:54):
The illegal acts. And now he's standing for the country
and saying no one is above the law. Is he
going to give the same no one about the law
speech when he pardons his son. And that's assuming that
his son's found guilty. To your point, I think he
will be found guilty, but you know who knows. I
you need his one lib partisan on that jury.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I think there's a chance that in Delaware no one
will convict the Biden. I think that's a very real chance,
even though this is not a complicated case. I mean,
he's clearly a drug addict who lied on a gun form,
and he clearly didn't pay millions of dollars in taxes
in California. But I think there's also the possibility that
no California juror will convict the Biden. I would also
(33:34):
point out that, in addition to the lectures about the law,
Biden has regularly said that the Supreme Court doesn't have
to be obeyed, and that he's bragged about defying what
the Supreme Court has told him to say. So this
idea of oh, the jury system is impartial, and it's
(33:55):
reckless and unacceptable to in any way disparage the results
of a jury, the Supreme Court itself. Joe Biden has
come out and said he does not agree with their
decisions and he'll flat out defy them. I mean, look
at what he's doing in trying to eliminate debt, canceled debt,
(34:16):
as they say, even though the student loan debt isn't
being canceled, it's just being shifted from an obligation perspective
from the people who never took it out to the
people who from the people who did take it out
to the people who never took it out. That's what's
going on. And so I just Biden himself is the
(34:39):
vessel under which they are attacking the nation. And I
have said this, and some of you got mad at me.
A couple of years ago, I said, if Biden was
actually the person that he claimed to be, he would
have one never allowed these charges to be brought against Trump.
Because did you hear Steven Miller? This is important and
I want to hammer this home again. In the next hour,
(34:59):
We're going to talk to Caroline Levitt with the Trump
campaign about their massive fundraising successes here in a few minutes.
But Matthew Colangelo was the number three person in the
Biden Department of Justice, that is one of the most
powerful judicial figures in the nation. He left the number
three position in the Biden Department of Justice to help
(35:20):
head up the state prosecution of Donald Trump in New
York City. But that's like going from Major League baseball
back to single A. You don't ever do that unless
Biden's involved directly himself.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Well, I was gonna say, does anyone think that if
we got his phone records and text messages that we
wouldn't see clear, clear coordination and updates going back to
the White House and the top of the DOJ about
what he's doing in New York City. Of course, of
course you'd have to be a fool to think that
he's not letting them know and coordinating with them what's
going on. But we'll never know because they'll never actually
(35:54):
pull that information. And the other side fights as dirty
as possible, and you know, we get lectures about decorum
from our own team. That's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And I think again, it contextualizes it. You're in the
major leagues, you're the number three guy in all the
Department of Justice, and suddenly you leave and go back
to prosecute cases in the New York State courtroom. Again.
That is moving from the major leagues to double A
or single A ball. Nobody ever does that this was
(36:26):
all coordinated, This was all designed by Joe Biden. If
he was the guy that he claimed he was, these
charges wouldn't have happened and or he would have pardoned
Trump from them. Remember Gerald Ford did this. Nixon never
faced any charges. He made the decision that was best
for the soul of the nation. Biden refuses to every
single day
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