May 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with an engaging interview with Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller. Miller discusses his potential new role as National Security Advisor and praises Secretary of State Marco Rubio for his multifaceted contributions to the Trump administration. Miller highlights the administration's "shock and awe" strategy against the deep state and radical left, emphasizing the importance of swift action to prevent bureaucratic resistance.
Following the interview, the hosts delve into the DOGE initiative, which aims to uncover and eliminate wasteful government spending. They discuss the automatic savings from federal employee reductions and the termination of executive-created agencies. The reconciliation bill's role in cutting wasteful spending and the potential for rescissions packages to achieve further savings are also highlighted.
The show addresses the controversial case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Democrat from Maryland involved in domestic violence and human trafficking. The hosts criticize the Democrats for defending Garcia and highlight the absurdity of their stance. They play audio clips of Garcia's wife begging for protection from him, further emphasizing the Democrats' irrational opposition to Trump's deportation policies.
They also cover the job market, noting the addition of 177,000 jobs in April and a 4.2% unemployment rate. The hosts encourage listeners to stay calm and invest for the long term, highlighting the recent surge in stock prices.
The hour concludes with a continuation on the humorous debate over whether a hot girlfriend should help her boyfriend move, featuring an opinion from Clay and Buck Podcast Network host, Lisa Boothe. This light-hearted segment adds a fun twist to the show's otherwise serious topics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we are joined by Deputy White House Chief of
Staff Steven Miller, one of the sharpest minds in this
White House, the policy Maestro extraordinaire, Steven.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Great to have you back on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Thank you appreciate that very generous introduction. I promise I'm
not paying him anything for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, we know that a man who loves the movie
Blood Sport as much as you do, has fantastic taste
and is a wise fellow. So let's start with this.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Either Bloodsport is a metaphor for life. If you want
to understand how to succeed in life, just watch that
movie and you'll get it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I totally agree Van Dam's finest, no question about that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
There's some reporting out there, Stephen, that you may also
be taking on wearing another hat so to speak with
National Security Advisor.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Can you give us any preview of that or is
it still TBD?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Right now, we're all just focused on supporting the Secretary
of State Rubio, who is a very good and close
friend of mine. In his role right now, Dual hadded
as Secretary of State and is the head of the
National Security Council, and so all of our energy here
in this building and across the administration is focused on
supporting Secretary Rubio again, someone who not only haven't become
(01:16):
very close friends with, but I've had a chance to
see him working up close and personal these last one
hundred days and also even before then, and he's really phenomenal.
And the President made absolute the right choice by giving
him this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
He is Secretary Rubio as well as I believe INTERM
National Security Advisor and also Acting Administrator of USAID I
think at this point, right, so he's taken on a bunch.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Don't forget he's in charge of the National Archives too.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh that's right, Yeah, yes, that is a lie.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's a testament to the fact that Marco deeply understands
and believes in the President's agenda and what President Trump
is trying to accomplish. And everyone in this building, everyone
across the administration, over these last one hundred days, has
(02:09):
developed a deep admiration for Marco and what he's done
at State Department and what he's done in the other
roles he's been tapped to do. I mean, for example,
as you mentioned, the dismantlement of the communist slush fund
known as USAID. And so, you know, Marco is that
rare combination of talent where he has the soft skills,
(02:31):
the diplomacy and the ability to forge deals, but also
the hard skills. And we've seen that, and I've seen
it very directly in terms of Marco's work on migration
and his ability to drive really hard negotiations with foreign
countries to bend them into submission on cooperation that we need.
(02:54):
So the President has made a tremendous choice with Marco,
and it's altogether the President's team, off the board, is
the strongest team you've ever had in this White House.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Steven, appreciate you coming on, appreciate all the work you're doing,
and we want you to come back on the program
when you're officially named NSSA. But in the future that
might well, hitch on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm looking at right now, is I want to take
over Marco's job of the National Archives. I think I
could do some great things there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, I would actually love to get a behind
the scenes tour of the Archives because I got to
do the World War Two Museum. They took me behind
the scenes and as good as the actual things that
you get to see in the museum is the things
that they have in the archives that are not actually
publicly visible are some of the coolest things. I bet
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at almost every museum because they only get to show
you a small pinprick of whatever their overall collection is,
So that would actually be super cool as well. Let's
go into the first hundred days. Buck and I have
been ecstatic with everything that we have seen. How much
of the first hundred days just flood the zone strategy?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Do you think has worked?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And how do you keep that pace up as we
move into the next hundred days and everybody is trying
to run as fast as they possibly can.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, well, the flood the zone strategy has worked exactly
as President Trump intended it to, which is shock and
awe against the forces of corruption that have been bleeding
in this country of its wealth. It's security, it's prestige.
You know. The worst mistake you can make when you
(04:38):
are fighting the deep state, the radical left and they're
outside supporters, the communists, the NGOs, the crazy judges, is
to spend a year debating and deliberating and discussing a
decision that everyone knows needs to get made, that everyone
(04:58):
understands have to happen, because all you're doing is given
the opposition time to develop a resistance battle plan, in
time to engage in asymmetric bureaucratic warfare through leaks, through manipulation,
feeding information to the ACLU, feeding information to crazy judges,
feeding information to radical democrats on Capitol Hill. This is
(05:22):
an unfortunate situation that our country has found itself in.
To put it in mild terms, that over the years,
over the decades, that we have developed this deep state
that is so committed to the destruction of America as
we know it. You know, one of the ways illustrate,
by the way to you know, to newer hires, how
(05:42):
the deep state works is I give this example. If
you had good news and you emailed it to one
thousand federal career bureaucrats, the odds of it leaking are
zero percent. Like you would never go out anywhere total
operational security and secrecy. If you send an email that
(06:03):
contained one thread that could be used to say, get
an injunction against the policy by the ACLU, it would
leak in literally one second. So in other words, you are
running in operation of federal bureaucrats that in many cases,
are trying to do everything they can to slow you
down and halt your progress. And all the things that
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bureaucracy has been working on are all the things that
President Trump ran against. Censorship, radical gender ideology, critical race theory,
the weaponization of the justice system, the weaponization of the
intelligence system. Of course, most notably the policy of open
borders and master settlement and mass migration, all of which
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was made possible by the full complicit participation of vast
swaws of the Feller bureaucracy that was implementing those policies,
that was advancing those policies, that was defending those policies,
and not to mention the war state and the push
to constantly try to perpetuate conflict around the world, it's
a solving conflict around the world. So President Trump inherited
(07:09):
a historic mandate, a battleground landslide the likes of which
we have never seen before, to implement all these programs
that he campaigned on. And that is why he has
moved with such force, intention and speed to fulfill his
mandate and his obligation and his promise to the American people.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
We're speaking to Steven Miller, Deputy White House Chief of Staff,
and Stephen we know that because of his status as
a special government employee. The plan all along has been
for Elon Musk to phase out of the sort of
day to day of DOGE, and I believe that's coming
up late later this month. There's been a lot that
DOGE has on earthed uncovered in terms of just crazy stuff.
(07:51):
I mean, you mentioned the communist slush fund known as USAID.
Can we borrow that by the way, can I use
that we're attributed to get to Stephen Miller? But I
want to say it going forward because it is a
communist slush fund. But there's also been this question about
recision from Congress, meaning that does Congress also now have
to do a lot or else none of the spending
(08:13):
cuts actually happen. Can you just give us some visibility
into what happens next with DOGE? And is Congress in
a place where, because it's budgetary, they can actually do
some of the things that Doge recommends.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And you know, with.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Irrespective of how some of these judges have inflicted themselves
on this.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Too, well, like so many things, the answer is all
the above, in the sense that a lot of these
savings are self executing automatic. So, for example, when thuederal
employees resign or retire and take the payout you know,
the so called fork in the Road email that went out,
(08:53):
all of those savings are accrued automatically. You don't need
to go to Congress. That all happens automatically. You fire
federal workers or federal workers are it's called a reduction
in force. The accronm for that is RIFF. All of
those reforms deliver both immediate and long term savings to
the American people. Congress have never established a floor of
federal employees. It just grew and grew and grew and
(09:15):
grew on its own. And so those those are going
to be enormous and immense savings for the American people.
When you have agencies or functions of government that were
created through executive action and that can therefore be terminated
by executive action, again, those are all savings that are
going to be immediate, that are going to be automatic,
they're going to be long lasting. A lot of the
(09:39):
discretionary grant spending to diversity, equity and inclusion policies, for example,
Congress never authorized any of that spending in the first place.
So you can save an enormous amount of money just
through administrative and executive action. That there are additional programs
that were that were created through previous bills that are
(10:00):
going to be rescinded, both in the reconciliation bill. So,
for example, the Reconciliation Bill is going to cut a
lot of the wasteful bat and spending, and so you're
going to see a lot of permanent savings as a
result of that. And then there's also opportunities you mentioned
recisionist packages, and that's someone that the Omb's actively looking
at in terms of what are the packages of cuts
that you can send to Congress that would get privileged considerations,
(10:25):
they wouldn't be subject to the filibuster, and could get
cut with a Republican vote. So we're looking at everything
to lock in these savings and make them permanent.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Stephen, are you even you surprised sometimes at the moronic
positions that Democrats take? And I just want to give
two to you that I can't even believe are still real.
Abrao Garcia, now is we're going to play the audio
we haven't yet. Wife is on audio begging for a
Mariland judge to protect her from him. And there is
(10:55):
a report out there in the courts that she said
he could kill her and get away with it. The
video from the Tennessee Highway Patrol just went public of
him being a human trafficker. That was up on Fox
News last night. You have Democrats going down to El
Salvador to visit him. The last time I think I
(11:18):
saw you in person, Stephen, was at the University of
Alabama where Trump spoke and the where he was going
to the Georgia game. And then absolutely everybody goes insane
last night when he says, Hey, as long as I'm president,
there aren't going to be men competing in women's sports.
It's not only they're wrong on issues. Are you astounded
by the ways that they choose to fight on issues?
(11:41):
I still can't get over it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, the Democrat Party is so deep in the throes
of Trump derangement syndrome that even if President Trump he
talked about this in his State of the Union address
or addressed to Congress, you need to came out with
the cure for cancer, the Democrats would say, we are
in favor of cancer and oppose your cure. So they're
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so disconnected from the needs of the American people. They're
so disconnected from the oaths they took upon assuming office
or their obligations to serve the American people. That would
President Trump deports an illegal alien gang banger in MS
thirteen who is a wife beater, human trafficker, they leap
to the defense of that alien and demand his return
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and freedom in the United States as though. This is
the highest parody for the Democrat Party. Is the freedom
of foreign terrorists on American soil. Again, men and women's
sports are a great example where they are. They are
fighting tooth and nail all over the country, in our
schools and our courtrooms, in Congress to protect the so
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called right of men to compete against women in athletics,
to use women's locker rooms, to use women's restrooms. The
civil rights cause of our time, i'm Accorrn's Democrats, is
the right of all biological males in this country to
use every single facility that has historically been reserved for
women and to enter every single woman's sporting league. So
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this is what the Democratic Party is today. I mean
there's it's a ship of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, absolutely, and they can't walk away from this, which
is more even more remarkable. Steven, we've only got about
a minute before we're going to be running into a break.
I just wanted you to lay out to the degree
you can deportations. We've seen a lot of great we've
the border is secure, and I don't we should never
be ungrateful for what an amazing job this administration has done.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It just happened so fast. I feel like people can't
even believe it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Ninety five percent production, that's amazing, but getting the bide
in millions and millions beginning to turn that around and
deport them en mass.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Is there a plan for this? Is this going to happen?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yes? Absolutely, and I wish we had more than a minute.
So the job number one for President Trump obviously was
to end all the immigrations across the southern border, and
that was achieved, of course, in record time, into an
unprecedented degree. Then the focus increasingly shifts towards mobilizing the
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law enforcement resources that we need to expel those that
are here illegally who need to go home. The biggest
near term impediment to that goal, of course, are the
courts and these radical leftist judges that are trying to
shut down the machinery of immigration enforcement nationwide. So we
are so Department Justice is pursuing a legal strategy with
(14:31):
the hope that very soon the Supreme Court will swat
away these injunctions so that we can get to the
business of securing the American homeland in full force. If
the Supreme Court doesn't provide that relief, there are many
other options that I will not get into here and
what the president's inherent authorities and powers are. So isn't
it isn't We're only waiting on the Supreme Court. It
(14:52):
is the Supreme Court hopefully do the right thing, or
we have many other options are disposal. At the same time,
we're ramping up many other efforts essential to achieving that deportation.
So that includes, for example, enrolling state and local law
enforcement nationwide in assisting and supporting the deportation effort, and
that's going to be an increasing feature and focus of
what we're doing. We're going to get National Guard more
(15:15):
engaged in putting them into immigration enforcement roles in a
domestic law enforcement setting, which is allowable under the twoenty
seven g program's user set in local law enforcement as well,
and we're going to also be working as We are
right now with Congress to pass legislation, the Reconciliation Bill,
that will more than double the number of deportation officers
(15:38):
working in the federal government, more than double the number
of deportation beds available to the federal government, and increase
by leaps and bounds the number of deportation flights they
are available to the federal government. So the Reconciliation Bill
is also going to be essential in allowing Immigration and
Customs enforcement to do their job. We have a whole
series of strategies as well to expand self deportation. I
(15:59):
think you've already seeing a lot of self deportation from
this country based on all the reports that we've gotten.
We're going to putting that into hyperdrive as well too,
and many more strategies that we'll talk about next time.
But as all this thiets come online, it gets put
into effect, you are going to see the removal numbers
begin to explode.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Stephen Miller from the White House, thanks so much. We
appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Thank you.
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end book. So we are seeing where the Democrats stand
(19:06):
on the border issue day in and day out. They
don't want to port anybody. They've made that quite clear.
Because if you're going to give everybody endless hearings ACLU
funded challenges and make everything some kind of humanitarian catastrophe,
I mean, we're talking about putting people on airplanes to
send them back to the country that they are a
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citizen of, where they grew up, where they likely have family,
perhaps more family than they do here in America, where
they actually speak the language. You know, this is not
this is not some horrifying thing. Okay, this is not
this process that we're being told is so cruel and unnecessary.
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It's necessary if you want to have a country. It's
necessary if you want America to actually be a country.
But the Abrago Garcia case is really showing people the
length of Democrats are willing to go here. Remember, this
guy has been already deported, he's not in the country.
We still have to hear about him though every day.
Oh my gosh, and they want him to be clear.
(20:09):
Their remedy here and this one judge, for example, who
wanted the plane to turn around. The remedy is take
the illegal who was never supposed to be here, bring
him back into America, to give him another hearing about
whether he should have to leave the country that he
illegally entered. This is just crazy. But on top of that,
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there's been all this back and forth. Is he actually
a gang member?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is he you know? Is he a future founder of
the next Google?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I mean, this is the stuff that the media loves,
the games they love to play. Fox News obtained body
camera footage showing him in Texas back in twenty twenty two,
with the cops saying, yeah, this guy's a human trafficker.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Play twelve, sir, are you all right? You've got a
bunch of people here, don't you one for ship. Yeah,
back to what got you? Where you where are you
working at?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Where?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Sam wis Missouri?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Missouri?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yes, sir, got you?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay Maryland? Where do you all live at?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I even mary Maryland?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Also whose vehicle? Whose car is? He's my boat? Yeah?
Where's yours?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
My boat?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Right now? He's stay in Maryland?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
About leave from home?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Take something?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, we can get into more. You want to get
into the part where he talks about actually he believes
this is trafficking.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
The cops.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, do we have the cops? This is their stop
back on November thirtieth, twenty twenty two. If I remember
looking at the video correctly, and here are the cops
basically behind the car discussing what they think is going
on here?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Know what you got here?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
He's uh, he's hauling these people for money. He got
an assholear is what he's doing. But sometimes they kill
mingled open. There's eight people in there.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What an extra rona seats?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, so he's getting paid all the shoes probably to Maryland.
I would say if my guess said, he's on those,
so let me ask you this. They don't have any
luggage in there at and if you get them out,
they're gonna have tooth toothpaste and they're gonna have toothbrushes
in their pockets. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He's got four dollars cash and he's pocket in the envelope.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So they busted him driving in a Tennessee highway. Not
included in that audio is that they contacted the FBI
and the Joe Biden FBI said, yeah, just let him go.
Uh So he's driving on a suspended license in a
vehicle that is by a non human smuggler. There are
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seven additional individuals who don't appear to speak English or
having any bags with them. They've changed the way that
the car is set up so they can fit even
more people into the vehicle. If you watch that tape,
the cops says, I've never even seen a vehicle like
this where you can have eight people seated. It's not
a van. It's some sort of suv that they've crammed
(23:23):
even more people into. And this is the front facing
hero of the Democrat Party. Yeah, and you have to
also wonder, Okay, let's assume that what the cops believe here,
and the cops have seen this before and they know
what they know what they're talking about. Let's assume that
he is involved in a human smuggling operation here. Who's
usually making the money on human smuggling operations? Everybody, it's
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not something that you see usually posted on your local
job board. You know, you're not going for like an
online job posting, Hey, human smuggling. It's gang and usually
cartel related activity because of what's involved here. And he
heard the cops say sometimes it's people and they also
have drugs in the van too, but in this case,
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they're very that the cops are very confident that this
is a human smuggling operation of the kind that you
know MS thirteen might be involved in, or similar gangs
would be involved in. But remember we've we've been told, oh,
all the judges and all the evidence and everything, this illegal,
who's doing this kind of stuff? And we haven't even
talked about well you mentioned before, but the you know,
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his wife who said, who needs an order of protection
against him? We're all supposed to be so upset that
he's no longer in this country. And I just this
is what the Democrat this is really where they are
on this one. And they want to they want the
Trump administration play to bring him back into the country,
so then we can expel him once again.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
What purpose?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What is the principle that is being is being served here?
And then you have the broader issue, which I keep hammercking.
I think it's so important if Biden can just decide
law doesn't matter and decide that we don't have the
resources to actually do anything at the border, which is
clearly what he did.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, it was an open border. They could say it's
not an open border.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It was an open border, and now it's closed. If
Biden can open the border and let anybody in under
the pretense that we can't tell they're lying and they
haven't been coached by the cartels or so they fear
violence in their home country and we can't support those people,
then what's the point play, Well, the country is over,
it's just a question of when. That's why they are
(25:31):
trying to play the long game here, because they have
found a rig system where they win when it comes
to illegal importing of people who shouldn't be here and
they can't be deported. And let's also build by the way,
because I do think this matters on the killmore of
Brao Garcia story. They also this was from USA Today.
(25:53):
And let me tell you something, when USA Today gets
on a story, they're about two weeks behind it. But
it's sign that the worm has turned, because I think
it's really the dumbest media, the dumbest newspaper in America.
I don't know who subscribes to USA Today, maybe some
of you do. The whole business seemed to be based
(26:14):
on They would give it to you at every hotel room.
Do you remember back in the day, Buck, when you
stayed in a hotel room, USA Today was given to you.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They used to pass it out for free everywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I never knew anybody that subscribed, but USA Today got
audio of this guy. Though you probably weren't expecting. Gannett
wasn't expecting to just get a two by four to
the side of the head here on the show USA Today.
A semi literate person's idea of a newspaper. Best thing
in history of USA Today, Buck, when they put the
(26:46):
Back to the Future two new USA Today headlines and
they showed the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
When they and Back to the Future two, they had
the updated USA Today headlines, and I still remember Cubs
win the World Series. Obviously they won the World Series
whatever it was seven eight years ago, finally, but that
was pretty cool. The guys who did USA today, if
you remember the Sports Betting Almanac, were huge sports fans.
It was a fun, fun ride. I watched it recently
(27:15):
with my kids. But let me hit you here with
a no pun intended. Unfortunately, with the wife of kilmar
Abreo Garcia begging a judge for a temporary protection order
back in twenty twenty because this guy is hitting her
so many times.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cut twenty five, it came to.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Fill out a protective order. I think it was in December,
but I didn't show up to the court because his
family like washed my brain telling me that his dad
was sick and not to do it. So it's still
I didn't do anything. But after that it was like
I would call the police. I have a lot of
police reports. And I kept trying to get to the
door basement to try to open the door, and then
(27:55):
like he pushed me. So then when I was able
to go outside to get a phone, called one from
a disconnected phone. Now they took a long time to
get to the house. It was probably like twenty thirty minutes.
So I saw a neighbor walking his dog and I
opened the door and I was like help. And then
when he heard me, like he grabbed me from my
hair and then he slapped me. And then the neighbor
(28:16):
like he didn't know what to do, he didn't know
what to react. I have pictures of their evidence, like
all the bruises, because even on Wednesday he hit me
like around like three in the morning. He would just
wake up and like hit me. And then last Saturday,
for my daughter's birthday party, before I went to my
daughter's birthday party, he slammed me three times. And then
last week I THEYD call the police. My sister called
(28:36):
the police because they hit me in front of my sister.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
This is who democrats are traveling to support in El Salvador.
On video, human smuggling on video his wife or audio
there saying that he was beating her. To your point, Buck,
if they brought him back, he would stay in custody
and immediately be turned around. I knew that they were
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going to pick a person to be the focal point
of the anti Trump deportation policy. I did not think
they were going to pick a human smuggling wife, beating
gang member, illegal immigrant to be their focal point of
Trump is being too mean. But they did, and it's
(29:23):
really kind of blown.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Up in their faces.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I also like how I think it was yesterday Marco
Rubio when they were asking about this. We had the
audio yesterday. If you guys, if you pull it, let
me know and we'll play it again. We didn't get
to it yesterday, but they are. The journalist at the
cabinet meeting asked Marco Rubio about this, and he's just like,
that's a foreign policy issue now, and I've got nothing
(29:48):
to say.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Basically, I've got nothing to say to you about it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know, some guy in a foreign country who's not
an American is a foreign policy issue. I don't really
I don't care what some judge somewhere says about it.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, a judge can say a lot of things.
It's not actually in his authority, not actually his problem anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I think this guy's going to vanish.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's my prediction in terms of being a prominent focus
of any sort of you know, they tried to pivot
already where they are now arguing about moms who are
being deported and whether they take there and taking both
sides of the equation. If a kid is remaining behind,
they're saying, oh my goodness, the mom is out of
the country. Kids still here. If the kid goes with
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the mom, they're saying, oh my goodness, mom has left
the country. Kid is with them. They're trying to play
at both sides simultaneously, which is a tough, tough position,
but at least there it's a kid they're trying to
focus on, and let's play that, Rubio before we go
to break. Instead of calling for it, they say, we've
got it. Cut thirty. Here's Rubio.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
When asked about this, you can touch with a savage.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
About attorney the creator Arsias administration.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Well, I would never tell you that, and you know
who else, I'll never tell a judge because the conduct
of our foreign policy belongs to the President of the
United States and executive Branch, not some judge. So we
will conduct foreign policy appropriately if we need to, but
I'll never discuss it, and no one will ever make
us discuss it, because that's how foreign policy works.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That was great, It's perfect because think about this. Imagine
any federal judge, which is a position created by Congress,
so not actually constitutionally having parody with the commander in
chief of the executive branch. Right, you know, there's the
Supreme Court, executive branch.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Congress creates federal courts, but that's not that's something that
the Congress has done. But anyway, imagine that you could
have a judge who says, hey, there's some foreign guy
somewhere else in the world. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
you guys, you have to bring him back into America
because he has more rights that have not been adequately
(31:54):
addressed back here in this country. Like you'd have to
go to this other country and say, what I mean,
you're not asking for an extradition. So now a judge
can say that somebody outside of normal procedures could be
brought back to America on what authority, no doubt. And
I think that the Trump team has been smart about
(32:15):
this because they've also pointed out we're going to have
federal district court judges soon deciding that they don't like
us deciding to bomb terrorists in other countries. I mean
at some point, and this is what we talked about
with Jade Vance on the one hundred Day you have
to recognize that six hundred some odd federal district court
judges should not have the power to enjoin, that is,
(32:37):
stop a president from undertaking an action.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They don't have that authority.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Want to be clear as well, because I brought this
up on the show, and I think some people thought,
come on, that can't really be Glenn Greenwald, who many
of you know from East to appear on Tucker Show
all the time on Fox. He's a left wing guy,
but he's big on civil liberties, actually civil liberties. He
made the same argument I did recently Clay on Twitter,
which is Obama didn't just drone an American citizen in
(33:03):
Yemen with no process what there's no It was just like, oh,
that guy's an enemy combat and I'm gonna blow him up.
He was a US citizen and we're a lockey. He
killed a sixteen year old son. Yeah, he droned a
sixteen year old American in a foreign war zone who
wasn't where's the due process there? And no one said no,
one said.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Boo about it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In the media pretty much they're like, oh, yeah, you know,
sometimes he's gonna blow up an American in a foreign battlefield.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
An American minor.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I mean it is fascinating when
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through
the Friday edition of the program. We got a couple
of guests coming for you. By the way, already talk
to Steven Miller. You can check out Steven at the
top of the second hour, a little bit about what
fifty some odd minutes ago. We're gonna talk with Joe
Kanca Fox News got a new book out. We'll talk
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with him at the top of the next hour. And
then your buddy Paul Merrow, who you used to work with,
Da Morrow. I was close Paul Morrow, who Buck used
to work with. All coming that way. It's herrect one
thing to have the pronunciation police come after you. He's
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don't know what I'm gonna be back in New York City,
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we'll talk about this a little bit more, maybe in
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of the Clay and Buck podcast Network, also wanted two
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way in. We had a caller yesterday called in and
said he broke up with his girl friend because while
she was hot, she was not interested in helping him move.
Buck and I both said wrong decision. Lisa Booth weid
in with her take.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Listen, hey guys, it's Lisa Booth with the Truth with
Lisa Booth. So the question is should a guy expect
his hot girlfriend to help him move?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So?
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I think it depends on how much she loves you.
I mean, like, obviously, if you love someone you want
to help them with things.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Would I help him pack?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Am I gonna help him move boxes?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No?
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Leah Thomas.
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Leah Thomas is the dude pretending to be a chick
who won the women's swimming championship against Riley Gains. Final
Hour next
All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we are joined by Deputy White House Chief of
Staff Steven Miller, one of the sharpest minds in this
White House, the policy Maestro extraordinaire, Steven.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Great to have you back on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Thank you appreciate that very generous introduction. I promise I'm
not paying him anything for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, we know that a man who loves the movie
Blood Sport as much as you do, has fantastic taste
and is a wise fellow. So let's start with this.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Either Bloodsport is a metaphor for life. If you want
to understand how to succeed in life, just watch that
movie and you'll get it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I totally agree Van Dam's finest, no question about that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
There's some reporting out there, Stephen, that you may also
be taking on wearing another hat so to speak with
National Security Advisor.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Can you give us any preview of that or is
it still TBD?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Right now, we're all just focused on supporting the Secretary
of State Rubio, who is a very good and close
friend of mine. In his role right now, Dual hadded
as Secretary of State and is the head of the
National Security Council, and so all of our energy here
in this building and across the administration is focused on
supporting Secretary Rubio again, someone who not only haven't become
(01:16):
very close friends with, but I've had a chance to
see him working up close and personal these last one
hundred days and also even before then, and he's really phenomenal.
And the President made absolute the right choice by giving
him this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
He is Secretary Rubio as well as I believe INTERM
National Security Advisor and also Acting Administrator of USAID I
think at this point, right, so he's taken on a bunch.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Don't forget he's in charge of the National Archives too.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh that's right, Yeah, yes, that is a lie.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's a testament to the fact that Marco deeply understands
and believes in the President's agenda and what President Trump
is trying to accomplish. And everyone in this building, everyone
across the administration, over these last one hundred days, has
(02:09):
developed a deep admiration for Marco and what he's done
at State Department and what he's done in the other
roles he's been tapped to do. I mean, for example,
as you mentioned, the dismantlement of the communist slush fund
known as USAID. And so, you know, Marco is that
rare combination of talent where he has the soft skills,
(02:31):
the diplomacy and the ability to forge deals, but also
the hard skills. And we've seen that, and I've seen
it very directly in terms of Marco's work on migration
and his ability to drive really hard negotiations with foreign
countries to bend them into submission on cooperation that we need.
(02:54):
So the President has made a tremendous choice with Marco,
and it's altogether the President's team, off the board, is
the strongest team you've ever had in this White House.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Steven, appreciate you coming on, appreciate all the work you're doing,
and we want you to come back on the program
when you're officially named NSSA. But in the future that
might well, hitch on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm looking at right now, is I want to take
over Marco's job of the National Archives. I think I
could do some great things there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, I would actually love to get a behind
the scenes tour of the Archives because I got to
do the World War Two Museum. They took me behind
the scenes and as good as the actual things that
you get to see in the museum is the things
that they have in the archives that are not actually
publicly visible are some of the coolest things. I bet
(03:42):
at almost every museum because they only get to show
you a small pinprick of whatever their overall collection is,
So that would actually be super cool as well. Let's
go into the first hundred days. Buck and I have
been ecstatic with everything that we have seen. How much
of the first hundred days just flood the zone strategy?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Do you think has worked?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And how do you keep that pace up as we
move into the next hundred days and everybody is trying
to run as fast as they possibly can.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, well, the flood the zone strategy has worked exactly
as President Trump intended it to, which is shock and
awe against the forces of corruption that have been bleeding
in this country of its wealth. It's security, it's prestige.
You know. The worst mistake you can make when you
(04:38):
are fighting the deep state, the radical left and they're
outside supporters, the communists, the NGOs, the crazy judges, is
to spend a year debating and deliberating and discussing a
decision that everyone knows needs to get made, that everyone
(04:58):
understands have to happen, because all you're doing is given
the opposition time to develop a resistance battle plan, in
time to engage in asymmetric bureaucratic warfare through leaks, through manipulation,
feeding information to the ACLU, feeding information to crazy judges,
feeding information to radical democrats on Capitol Hill. This is
(05:22):
an unfortunate situation that our country has found itself in.
To put it in mild terms, that over the years,
over the decades, that we have developed this deep state
that is so committed to the destruction of America as
we know it. You know, one of the ways illustrate,
by the way to you know, to newer hires, how
(05:42):
the deep state works is I give this example. If
you had good news and you emailed it to one
thousand federal career bureaucrats, the odds of it leaking are
zero percent. Like you would never go out anywhere total
operational security and secrecy. If you send an email that
(06:03):
contained one thread that could be used to say, get
an injunction against the policy by the ACLU, it would
leak in literally one second. So in other words, you are
running in operation of federal bureaucrats that in many cases,
are trying to do everything they can to slow you
down and halt your progress. And all the things that
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bureaucracy has been working on are all the things that
President Trump ran against. Censorship, radical gender ideology, critical race theory,
the weaponization of the justice system, the weaponization of the
intelligence system. Of course, most notably the policy of open
borders and master settlement and mass migration, all of which
(06:45):
was made possible by the full complicit participation of vast
swaws of the Feller bureaucracy that was implementing those policies,
that was advancing those policies, that was defending those policies,
and not to mention the war state and the push
to constantly try to perpetuate conflict around the world, it's
a solving conflict around the world. So President Trump inherited
(07:09):
a historic mandate, a battleground landslide the likes of which
we have never seen before, to implement all these programs
that he campaigned on. And that is why he has
moved with such force, intention and speed to fulfill his
mandate and his obligation and his promise to the American people.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
We're speaking to Steven Miller, Deputy White House Chief of Staff,
and Stephen we know that because of his status as
a special government employee. The plan all along has been
for Elon Musk to phase out of the sort of
day to day of DOGE, and I believe that's coming
up late later this month. There's been a lot that
DOGE has on earthed uncovered in terms of just crazy stuff.
(07:51):
I mean, you mentioned the communist slush fund known as USAID.
Can we borrow that by the way, can I use
that we're attributed to get to Stephen Miller? But I
want to say it going forward because it is a
communist slush fund. But there's also been this question about
recision from Congress, meaning that does Congress also now have
to do a lot or else none of the spending
(08:13):
cuts actually happen. Can you just give us some visibility
into what happens next with DOGE? And is Congress in
a place where, because it's budgetary, they can actually do
some of the things that Doge recommends.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And you know, with.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Irrespective of how some of these judges have inflicted themselves
on this.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Too, well, like so many things, the answer is all
the above, in the sense that a lot of these
savings are self executing automatic. So, for example, when thuederal
employees resign or retire and take the payout you know,
the so called fork in the Road email that went out,
(08:53):
all of those savings are accrued automatically. You don't need
to go to Congress. That all happens automatically. You fire
federal workers or federal workers are it's called a reduction
in force. The accronm for that is RIFF. All of
those reforms deliver both immediate and long term savings to
the American people. Congress have never established a floor of
federal employees. It just grew and grew and grew and
(09:15):
grew on its own. And so those those are going
to be enormous and immense savings for the American people.
When you have agencies or functions of government that were
created through executive action and that can therefore be terminated
by executive action, again, those are all savings that are
going to be immediate, that are going to be automatic,
they're going to be long lasting. A lot of the
(09:39):
discretionary grant spending to diversity, equity and inclusion policies, for example,
Congress never authorized any of that spending in the first place.
So you can save an enormous amount of money just
through administrative and executive action. That there are additional programs
that were that were created through previous bills that are
(10:00):
going to be rescinded, both in the reconciliation bill. So,
for example, the Reconciliation Bill is going to cut a
lot of the wasteful bat and spending, and so you're
going to see a lot of permanent savings as a
result of that. And then there's also opportunities you mentioned
recisionist packages, and that's someone that the Omb's actively looking
at in terms of what are the packages of cuts
that you can send to Congress that would get privileged considerations,
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they wouldn't be subject to the filibuster, and could get
cut with a Republican vote. So we're looking at everything
to lock in these savings and make them permanent.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Stephen, are you even you surprised sometimes at the moronic
positions that Democrats take? And I just want to give
two to you that I can't even believe are still real.
Abrao Garcia, now is we're going to play the audio
we haven't yet. Wife is on audio begging for a
Mariland judge to protect her from him. And there is
(10:55):
a report out there in the courts that she said
he could kill her and get away with it. The
video from the Tennessee Highway Patrol just went public of
him being a human trafficker. That was up on Fox
News last night. You have Democrats going down to El
Salvador to visit him. The last time I think I
(11:18):
saw you in person, Stephen, was at the University of
Alabama where Trump spoke and the where he was going
to the Georgia game. And then absolutely everybody goes insane
last night when he says, Hey, as long as I'm president,
there aren't going to be men competing in women's sports.
It's not only they're wrong on issues. Are you astounded
by the ways that they choose to fight on issues?
(11:41):
I still can't get over it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Well, the Democrat Party is so deep in the throes
of Trump derangement syndrome that even if President Trump he
talked about this in his State of the Union address
or addressed to Congress, you need to came out with
the cure for cancer, the Democrats would say, we are
in favor of cancer and oppose your cure. So they're
(12:07):
so disconnected from the needs of the American people. They're
so disconnected from the oaths they took upon assuming office
or their obligations to serve the American people. That would
President Trump deports an illegal alien gang banger in MS
thirteen who is a wife beater, human trafficker, they leap
to the defense of that alien and demand his return
(12:29):
and freedom in the United States as though. This is
the highest parody for the Democrat Party. Is the freedom
of foreign terrorists on American soil. Again, men and women's
sports are a great example where they are. They are
fighting tooth and nail all over the country, in our
schools and our courtrooms, in Congress to protect the so
(12:50):
called right of men to compete against women in athletics,
to use women's locker rooms, to use women's restrooms. The
civil rights cause of our time, i'm Accorrn's Democrats, is
the right of all biological males in this country to
use every single facility that has historically been reserved for
women and to enter every single woman's sporting league. So
(13:11):
this is what the Democratic Party is today. I mean
there's it's a ship of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes, absolutely, and they can't walk away from this, which
is more even more remarkable. Steven, we've only got about
a minute before we're going to be running into a break.
I just wanted you to lay out to the degree
you can deportations. We've seen a lot of great we've
the border is secure, and I don't we should never
be ungrateful for what an amazing job this administration has done.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It just happened so fast. I feel like people can't
even believe it.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Ninety five percent production, that's amazing, but getting the bide
in millions and millions beginning to turn that around and
deport them en mass.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Is there a plan for this? Is this going to happen?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yes? Absolutely, and I wish we had more than a minute.
So the job number one for President Trump obviously was
to end all the immigrations across the southern border, and
that was achieved, of course, in record time, into an
unprecedented degree. Then the focus increasingly shifts towards mobilizing the
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law enforcement resources that we need to expel those that
are here illegally who need to go home. The biggest
near term impediment to that goal, of course, are the
courts and these radical leftist judges that are trying to
shut down the machinery of immigration enforcement nationwide. So we
are so Department Justice is pursuing a legal strategy with
(14:31):
the hope that very soon the Supreme Court will swat
away these injunctions so that we can get to the
business of securing the American homeland in full force. If
the Supreme Court doesn't provide that relief, there are many
other options that I will not get into here and
what the president's inherent authorities and powers are. So isn't
it isn't We're only waiting on the Supreme Court. It
(14:52):
is the Supreme Court hopefully do the right thing, or
we have many other options are disposal. At the same time,
we're ramping up many other efforts essential to achieving that deportation.
So that includes, for example, enrolling state and local law
enforcement nationwide in assisting and supporting the deportation effort, and
that's going to be an increasing feature and focus of
what we're doing. We're going to get National Guard more
(15:15):
engaged in putting them into immigration enforcement roles in a
domestic law enforcement setting, which is allowable under the twoenty
seven g program's user set in local law enforcement as well,
and we're going to also be working as We are
right now with Congress to pass legislation, the Reconciliation Bill,
that will more than double the number of deportation officers
(15:38):
working in the federal government, more than double the number
of deportation beds available to the federal government, and increase
by leaps and bounds the number of deportation flights they
are available to the federal government. So the Reconciliation Bill
is also going to be essential in allowing Immigration and
Customs enforcement to do their job. We have a whole
series of strategies as well to expand self deportation. I
(15:59):
think you've already seeing a lot of self deportation from
this country based on all the reports that we've gotten.
We're going to putting that into hyperdrive as well too,
and many more strategies that we'll talk about next time.
But as all this thiets come online, it gets put
into effect, you are going to see the removal numbers
begin to explode.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Stephen Miller from the White House, thanks so much. We
appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Thank you.
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So we got a quick turn around here, but we're
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the Abrego Garcia case.
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end book. So we are seeing where the Democrats stand
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on the border issue day in and day out. They
don't want to port anybody. They've made that quite clear.
Because if you're going to give everybody endless hearings ACLU
funded challenges and make everything some kind of humanitarian catastrophe,
I mean, we're talking about putting people on airplanes to
send them back to the country that they are a
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citizen of, where they grew up, where they likely have family,
perhaps more family than they do here in America, where
they actually speak the language. You know, this is not
this is not some horrifying thing. Okay, this is not
this process that we're being told is so cruel and unnecessary.
(19:48):
It's necessary if you want to have a country. It's
necessary if you want America to actually be a country.
But the Abrago Garcia case is really showing people the
length of Democrats are willing to go here. Remember, this
guy has been already deported, he's not in the country.
We still have to hear about him though every day.
Oh my gosh, and they want him to be clear.
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Their remedy here and this one judge, for example, who
wanted the plane to turn around. The remedy is take
the illegal who was never supposed to be here, bring
him back into America, to give him another hearing about
whether he should have to leave the country that he
illegally entered. This is just crazy. But on top of that,
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there's been all this back and forth. Is he actually
a gang member?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is he you know? Is he a future founder of
the next Google?
Speaker 6 (20:40):
You know?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I mean, this is the stuff that the media loves,
the games they love to play. Fox News obtained body
camera footage showing him in Texas back in twenty twenty two,
with the cops saying, yeah, this guy's a human trafficker.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Play twelve, sir, are you all right? You've got a
bunch of people here, don't you one for ship. Yeah,
back to what got you? Where you where are you
working at?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Where?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Sam wis Missouri?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Missouri?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yes, sir, got you?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay Maryland? Where do you all live at?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I even mary Maryland?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Also whose vehicle? Whose car is? He's my boat? Yeah?
Where's yours?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
My boat?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Right now? He's stay in Maryland?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
About leave from home?
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Take something?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, we can get into more. You want to get
into the part where he talks about actually he believes
this is trafficking.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
The cops.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, do we have the cops? This is their stop
back on November thirtieth, twenty twenty two. If I remember
looking at the video correctly, and here are the cops
basically behind the car discussing what they think is going
on here?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Know what you got here?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:03):
He's uh, he's hauling these people for money. He got
an assholear is what he's doing. But sometimes they kill
mingled open. There's eight people in there.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What an extra rona seats?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Yeah, so he's getting paid all the shoes probably to Maryland.
I would say if my guess said, he's on those,
so let me ask you this. They don't have any
luggage in there at and if you get them out,
they're gonna have tooth toothpaste and they're gonna have toothbrushes
in their pockets. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He's got four dollars cash and he's pocket in the envelope.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So they busted him driving in a Tennessee highway. Not
included in that audio is that they contacted the FBI
and the Joe Biden FBI said, yeah, just let him go.
Uh So he's driving on a suspended license in a
vehicle that is by a non human smuggler. There are
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seven additional individuals who don't appear to speak English or
having any bags with them. They've changed the way that
the car is set up so they can fit even
more people into the vehicle. If you watch that tape,
the cops says, I've never even seen a vehicle like
this where you can have eight people seated. It's not
a van. It's some sort of suv that they've crammed
(23:23):
even more people into. And this is the front facing
hero of the Democrat Party. Yeah, and you have to
also wonder, Okay, let's assume that what the cops believe here,
and the cops have seen this before and they know
what they know what they're talking about. Let's assume that
he is involved in a human smuggling operation here. Who's
usually making the money on human smuggling operations? Everybody, it's
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not something that you see usually posted on your local
job board. You know, you're not going for like an
online job posting, Hey, human smuggling. It's gang and usually
cartel related activity because of what's involved here. And he
heard the cops say sometimes it's people and they also
have drugs in the van too, but in this case,
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they're very that the cops are very confident that this
is a human smuggling operation of the kind that you
know MS thirteen might be involved in, or similar gangs
would be involved in. But remember we've we've been told, oh,
all the judges and all the evidence and everything, this illegal,
who's doing this kind of stuff? And we haven't even
talked about well you mentioned before, but the you know,
(24:30):
his wife who said, who needs an order of protection
against him? We're all supposed to be so upset that
he's no longer in this country. And I just this
is what the Democrat this is really where they are
on this one. And they want to they want the
Trump administration play to bring him back into the country,
so then we can expel him once again.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
What purpose?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
What is the principle that is being is being served here?
And then you have the broader issue, which I keep hammercking.
I think it's so important if Biden can just decide
law doesn't matter and decide that we don't have the
resources to actually do anything at the border, which is
clearly what he did.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, it was an open border. They could say it's
not an open border.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It was an open border, and now it's closed. If
Biden can open the border and let anybody in under
the pretense that we can't tell they're lying and they
haven't been coached by the cartels or so they fear
violence in their home country and we can't support those people,
then what's the point play, Well, the country is over,
it's just a question of when. That's why they are
(25:31):
trying to play the long game here, because they have
found a rig system where they win when it comes
to illegal importing of people who shouldn't be here and
they can't be deported. And let's also build by the way,
because I do think this matters on the killmore of
Brao Garcia story. They also this was from USA Today.
(25:53):
And let me tell you something, when USA Today gets
on a story, they're about two weeks behind it. But
it's sign that the worm has turned, because I think
it's really the dumbest media, the dumbest newspaper in America.
I don't know who subscribes to USA Today, maybe some
of you do. The whole business seemed to be based
(26:14):
on They would give it to you at every hotel room.
Do you remember back in the day, Buck, when you
stayed in a hotel room, USA Today was given to you.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
They used to pass it out for free everywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I never knew anybody that subscribed, but USA Today got
audio of this guy. Though you probably weren't expecting. Gannett
wasn't expecting to just get a two by four to
the side of the head here on the show USA Today.
A semi literate person's idea of a newspaper. Best thing
in history of USA Today, Buck, when they put the
(26:46):
Back to the Future two new USA Today headlines and
they showed the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
When they and Back to the Future two, they had
the updated USA Today headlines, and I still remember Cubs
win the World Series. Obviously they won the World Series
whatever it was seven eight years ago, finally, but that
was pretty cool. The guys who did USA today, if
you remember the Sports Betting Almanac, were huge sports fans.
It was a fun, fun ride. I watched it recently
(27:15):
with my kids. But let me hit you here with
a no pun intended. Unfortunately, with the wife of kilmar
Abreo Garcia begging a judge for a temporary protection order
back in twenty twenty because this guy is hitting her
so many times.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cut twenty five, it came to.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Fill out a protective order. I think it was in December,
but I didn't show up to the court because his
family like washed my brain telling me that his dad
was sick and not to do it. So it's still
I didn't do anything. But after that it was like
I would call the police. I have a lot of
police reports. And I kept trying to get to the
door basement to try to open the door, and then
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like he pushed me. So then when I was able
to go outside to get a phone, called one from
a disconnected phone. Now they took a long time to
get to the house. It was probably like twenty thirty minutes.
So I saw a neighbor walking his dog and I
opened the door and I was like help. And then
when he heard me, like he grabbed me from my
hair and then he slapped me. And then the neighbor
(28:16):
like he didn't know what to do, he didn't know
what to react. I have pictures of their evidence, like
all the bruises, because even on Wednesday he hit me
like around like three in the morning. He would just
wake up and like hit me. And then last Saturday,
for my daughter's birthday party, before I went to my
daughter's birthday party, he slammed me three times. And then
last week I THEYD call the police. My sister called
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the police because they hit me in front of my sister.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
This is who democrats are traveling to support in El Salvador.
On video, human smuggling on video his wife or audio
there saying that he was beating her. To your point, Buck,
if they brought him back, he would stay in custody
and immediately be turned around. I knew that they were
(29:02):
going to pick a person to be the focal point
of the anti Trump deportation policy. I did not think
they were going to pick a human smuggling wife, beating
gang member, illegal immigrant to be their focal point of
Trump is being too mean. But they did, and it's
(29:23):
really kind of blown.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Up in their faces.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I also like how I think it was yesterday Marco
Rubio when they were asking about this. We had the
audio yesterday. If you guys, if you pull it, let
me know and we'll play it again. We didn't get
to it yesterday, but they are. The journalist at the
cabinet meeting asked Marco Rubio about this, and he's just like,
that's a foreign policy issue now, and I've got nothing
(29:48):
to say.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Basically, I've got nothing to say to you about it.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You know, some guy in a foreign country who's not
an American is a foreign policy issue. I don't really
I don't care what some judge somewhere says about it.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, a judge can say a lot of things.
It's not actually in his authority, not actually his problem anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I think this guy's going to vanish.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's my prediction in terms of being a prominent focus
of any sort of you know, they tried to pivot
already where they are now arguing about moms who are
being deported and whether they take there and taking both
sides of the equation. If a kid is remaining behind,
they're saying, oh my goodness, the mom is out of
the country. Kids still here. If the kid goes with
(30:29):
the mom, they're saying, oh my goodness, mom has left
the country. Kid is with them. They're trying to play
at both sides simultaneously, which is a tough, tough position,
but at least there it's a kid they're trying to
focus on, and let's play that, Rubio before we go
to break. Instead of calling for it, they say, we've
got it. Cut thirty. Here's Rubio.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
When asked about this, you can touch with a savage.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
About attorney the creator Arsias administration.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Well, I would never tell you that, and you know
who else, I'll never tell a judge because the conduct
of our foreign policy belongs to the President of the
United States and executive Branch, not some judge. So we
will conduct foreign policy appropriately if we need to, but
I'll never discuss it, and no one will ever make
us discuss it, because that's how foreign policy works.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That was great, It's perfect because think about this. Imagine
any federal judge, which is a position created by Congress,
so not actually constitutionally having parody with the commander in
chief of the executive branch. Right, you know, there's the
Supreme Court, executive branch.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Congress creates federal courts, but that's not that's something that
the Congress has done. But anyway, imagine that you could
have a judge who says, hey, there's some foreign guy
somewhere else in the world. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
you guys, you have to bring him back into America
because he has more rights that have not been adequately
(31:54):
addressed back here in this country. Like you'd have to
go to this other country and say, what I mean,
you're not asking for an extradition. So now a judge
can say that somebody outside of normal procedures could be
brought back to America on what authority, no doubt. And
I think that the Trump team has been smart about
(32:15):
this because they've also pointed out we're going to have
federal district court judges soon deciding that they don't like
us deciding to bomb terrorists in other countries. I mean
at some point, and this is what we talked about
with Jade Vance on the one hundred Day you have
to recognize that six hundred some odd federal district court
judges should not have the power to enjoin, that is,
(32:37):
stop a president from undertaking an action.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They don't have that authority.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Want to be clear as well, because I brought this
up on the show, and I think some people thought,
come on, that can't really be Glenn Greenwald, who many
of you know from East to appear on Tucker Show
all the time on Fox. He's a left wing guy,
but he's big on civil liberties, actually civil liberties. He
made the same argument I did recently Clay on Twitter,
which is Obama didn't just drone an American citizen in
(33:03):
Yemen with no process what there's no It was just like, oh,
that guy's an enemy combat and I'm gonna blow him up.
He was a US citizen and we're a lockey. He
killed a sixteen year old son. Yeah, he droned a
sixteen year old American in a foreign war zone who
wasn't where's the due process there? And no one said no,
one said.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Boo about it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In the media pretty much they're like, oh, yeah, you know,
sometimes he's gonna blow up an American in a foreign battlefield.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
An American minor.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I mean it is fascinating when
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said he broke up with his girl friend because while
she was hot, she was not interested in helping him move.
Buck and I both said wrong decision. Lisa Booth weid
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Listen, hey guys, it's Lisa Booth with the Truth with
Lisa Booth. So the question is should a guy expect
his hot girlfriend to help him move?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
So?
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I think it depends on how much she loves you.
I mean, like, obviously, if you love someone you want
to help them with things.
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Would I help him pack?
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Yes?
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Am I gonna help him move boxes?
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No?
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I'm not.
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Leah Thomas.
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Take strong take from Lisa Booth. There, Clay, go check
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