December 24, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy
New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We are very pleased to be joined by our friend
David Rutherford. He's a former Navy seal served a combat
tour in Afghanistan. He's also the host of the Dave
Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck podcast network, which
is growing, growing, growing every month. It is a fantastic program.
Recommend you all go check it out. Dave, we call
(00:35):
you Rutt. So for anyone who's confused, mister Rutt, tell
us first off, your thoughts on this Veterans Day, speaking
for yourself and your fellow veterans out there, what's your
top level view? How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh, Bucks, Clay, thanks for having me on again. I
think for veterans right now there's a rebirth. There's a
revival taking place in Pete is doing. I mean, every
time I see Joe Kent post something, I want to
go get my kid on and you know, sign back up.
And I just think right now there's a revitalization and
(01:13):
the numbers are showing that people are wanting to go in,
they're wanting to serve. They believe that the President is
fired up to you know, make the American military the
mightiest force in the world again. And I think it's
a real positive moment for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
When you see those enlistment numbers and Pete Hexth came
out at the Patriot Awards and he was talking about
them on Thursday night, and I know that on this
Veteran's Day, they're shining a bright light on it. Isn't
that the best actual indication of how the Secretary of
War as we now have it renamed, but the Secretary
(01:52):
of Defense for the last thirty or forty years. Isn't
that the ultimate judgment on him and on the trajectory
of the military. Do people want to join or not?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah? I mean absolutely it is. I mean how you
went to that, I mean, I love that there was
this incredible gala, right, You saw the Marine Corps balls,
you saw Vice President Events speak at Evans speak at one.
You know, the E five mafia represented at the highest levels. Yeah,
people are stoked and the numbers reflect that. You know,
(02:26):
I think it's it's you know, the other the other
great challenge is because we're not in a very substantial
kinetic environment right now, that it's difficult to tell, you know,
whether it'll last, because that's the real testament. Do people
stay in over when there's high levels of combat? But
(02:46):
right now I think young people, young American twenty four
year old men, are are revitalized with this idea that
I can go and serve in the military that my uncle,
that my father, that my grandfather, that my great grandfather
served in and I'm gonna get that genuine sense of
(03:08):
real patriotism and service.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Dave, take us back, if you would, to your decision
to join up, Just what it was like going through,
what was going through your head, what your feelings were
about at the motivations, your sense of what it would
mean to be in the Navy, and of course to
join the teams become a Navy seal. Like, just take
us back to that moment, because I think for a
lot of people who today maybe are considering once again.
(03:34):
You know, we have younger audience members who are listening
who might be thinking about it. We have college age
people listening who might be considering it. What was your
mindset like when you first decided I'm gonna throw my
hat in the ring.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's a great question, Bock. You know, for me, I
was struggling to try and figure out what I wanted
to do with my life. You know, my athletic career
hadn't worked out the way I had hoped at college level,
and I was just in the position where it's like,
what is the meaning of my life going to represent?
And you know, my great great uncle was in Rose
(04:08):
Theodore Roosevelt's cabinet. You know, I had you know, it's
been several generations since anybody had served, but you know,
I that legacy and link I think was a driving
force as well as just my you know, I was
a gen x er. I was influenced by Rambo and
Commando and all the incredible movies that you know, showed
(04:31):
American military might and power at the highest levels, popped
on Navy seals, and that consumed me. I was like,
this is the this is the thing that's going to
put me on my way, help me figure out what
I'm made of if I'm if I can represent something
bigger than myself and and something that will give me
(04:51):
purpose and meaning. To figure out the longer term idea
of what I might ultimately become. So yeah, it was
a pow or full influence over me to go try
and become a part of you know, not only the
DD but the Navy and the seal teams and down
all the way to the guys that were next to
me that I served with.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We're talking to David Rutherford. Encourage you to go subscribe
to his podcast. It's a part of the Clay and
Buck podcast network. It's Veterans Day. You are a Navy
Seal and I don't know if we've ever asked you
this question, but when you were going through the process
of becoming a Navy Seal, what was the toughest thing
to you about the Navy seal process itself? It was
(05:37):
there a moment where you thought, I cannot push myself
any further. And we've got a lot of people out there,
a lot of young guys that listen to us and
maybe aspire to be a Navy seal one day. What
would you say they should know? What would you say
they should do?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I think the biggest thing is to recognize that you
have so much more in your res of of willpower
than you can even imagine. You know, in these programs,
whether it's Buds or it's selection or the Q course
or Mars Socks or whatever, amazing selection process from all
the different soft units. Like you have to realize you
(06:18):
have what it takes. It's just a question of believing
in yourself. And then for me, the biggest thing is
I didn't want to let the guys down next to me.
That was the biggest motivator. Like I'm going to be honest,
I thought about, you know, quitting all the time. I mean,
the pain of just going through it, being wet, being sandy,
(06:38):
being miserable, having people scream at you, the whole thing.
But what it does for me is it just motivated
me to be better for the guys next to me,
and then they became the ultimate motivation. So you know,
I think when you're thinking about what it is first
and foremost the number one thing. And I just had
a call with a young man the other day who's
in college and you know, really thinking about it, And
(07:00):
the thing I say to most is is do the
deep dive understand what you're committing to understand. You know.
Bongino Stan put a great text out or tweet out
today where he said, you know, the ultimate thing is service,
serving the men and women that are next to you
in the line of fire, and and and that is
(07:22):
the thing that is the driving force ultimately. I you know,
I know guys that have eight hundred combat missions. I
know a couple of guys that five hundred, four hundred.
You know, multiple silver stars, five bronze stars with valors.
These are the ultimate heroes and you ask them why
did you serve? Why did you fight as hard.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
As you did?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And the ultimate thing always comes down because of the
man that was next to me. And so you know,
that's the driving force. If you want to participate with
the with the very highest caliber of committed human beings
to you and your success, then these programs are are
right for you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Dave, I wanted you to also weigh in on how
are we doing? You know, there was this whole period
during the gat era where a lot of people who
served and a lot of people who saw combat were
being brought back in and going through the transition back
into civilian life. That is less of a focus now
in the general public discussion that it was because you
(08:22):
point out we're not really an active combat zones.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The way we were before.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
How are we doing and taking care of our veterans though,
because whether it's we have tunnel to towers for example,
a great sponsor here on the program, you know, there
are some veterans who have long term needs who still
need that assistance from whether it's psychological or physical wounds.
You know, is the VA getting the attention it needs
under this administration? You know, I'm wondering how we're doing
(08:47):
on that front.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I still believe there is an I measurable amount of
work to be done. Yeah, I see the director of
the VA going on all the shows, an he's saying
the right things, but there are still you know, thousands,
tens of thousands of people in the soft community alone
that took the braunt of those grote operational tempo, you know,
(09:13):
and it's not just the combat deployments, it's the endless
training cycles right then also have a really profound effect.
And that's why for me, I really kind of linked
myself to doctor Chris Free and the framework of operator syndrome,
you know, where I started a little nonprofit to really
try and figure out how to address the seventeen different
(09:37):
medical and behavioral health challenges that long term exposure to
high training tempos and high deployment cycles has an impact
on people. You know, you can't send a guy, you know,
doing fourteen fifteen deployments and not expect there to be
some long term damage. And that's why, you know, there
(09:57):
was actually just a new study from a Stanford doctor
that did a case study with two hundred special operations
guys that and he used the operator syndrome framework, and
that study they're validated the original paper and book written
by doctor Chris Free that this is a reality, right
(10:20):
that long term exposure causes metabolic destabilization, It causes behavioral
health challenges in different ways, yes, TTSD, but also survivors guilt,
extensive existential challenges, intimacy issues. Right then you have neurogenic
issues from blast wave exposure, you know, endocrin dysfunction, and
(10:40):
then the orthopedic injuries, the perpetual living and pain, and
so you know, I think there's still a lot of
work to be done. There's a lot of work to
be done at the administrative level to at least bring
in this Stanford doc and doctor. I would love to
(11:01):
see them be able to testify on Capitol Hill and
tell the people that are in charge of the funding
to harve out a little bit of funding to do
research on operators syndrome. I mean, we've seen the most
most substantial thing I think we've seen on the has
been on the state level. You saw a former governor
(11:21):
Perry work with the lawyer Hubbard was his name, and
they got fifty million dollars in funding to do research
on I've a gain in five VMO DMT, which is
the VETS program initiative that really helps guys run, get sober,
come off prescription drugs, and then the other to re
establish neuroelasticity and establish new brain patterning that can help
(11:45):
facilitate putting some of those demons to rest. So there's
a lot of work to be done, a lot of
guys still struggling. And what I would really love is
that for the next kinetic war that could take place,
which right now could be anywhere, I hope that we
have a better plan in place to take care of
them as opposed to what the GAT guys, the Vietnam guys,
(12:10):
the Korean and then also world where two guys did
not receive.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
David Rutherford, thank you for your service, our friend. We
appreciate you, appreciate what you did for the country and
also would recommend all of you listening go check out
the David Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network.
Rut always appreciate you man, Thank you for giving us
your time today.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
God bless you guys. Thank you Buck for your service too, Buddy,
take care much.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Thank you, Ma, Man you too.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
While we're spending time with family this holiday season and
Buck is stuck in a sound booth recording his new book,
you can listen to us on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Play Don't Rub it In But That's right. Just fire
up the iHeartRadio app and kick back with the Sunday
Hang guaranteed laughs, or check out any of our other
great hosts in the Clay and Buck podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
There's so much content you won't even miss.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Us, but we'll miss you and look forward to speaking
with you again in the new year.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Until then, si'ld time you're listening to the best of
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Veterans Day
edition of the program. A lot of different stories we
are following a bunch of people want to weigh in
variety of different topics relating to Veterans Day. Let's take
some of these calls, David and Louisiana. We were talking
about some of the things that veterans went through, and
(13:32):
you're saying Jonathan Plumb Martin, who was a famous diarist
who fought in the Revolutionary War with the Condinal Army.
I have not read it. I've seen it excerpted quite
a lot, because he is one of the foremost chroniclers
of what life was like for soldiers in those eras.
What did you come away with your biggest impression being David, Yeah,
(13:56):
I just.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Want to correct something. His name was Joseph Plum Martin
and his book is called.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
A Private Yankee Doodle.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It is.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Uh, it's pretty easy to get. And uh, I'm a
I'm a twenty year veteran. I'm retired Navy.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
And I wanted to wish Buck a happy Veterans Day
and really enjoy your show. And before I just wanted
to say one thing. The last time I talked to
somebody at this number, it was the great Rush Limbaugh.
So it's a very I'm very excited to talk to
you guys because I think you are a great Uh.
It's a great way to keep on the Old Rush Show.
(14:35):
So thank you very much for what you guys do well.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Thank you for the call, thank you for your service.
And yes we're going to fire producer Greg for leading
me over the middle and writing the wrong person's name
down in the uh in the roster there, but it
is the plumb Martin UH. If you watch or read
anything relating to the Revolutionary War, that is a huge
(14:57):
part of the discussion. Are you inter did at all?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Buck?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I believe it debuts in the next few days, in
the new ken Burns Revolutionary War documentary. Have you seen
him doing a bunch of media lately on it. I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'm actually because I'm reading
the Rick Atkinson books right now, the trilogy. He's only
two volumes in. I'm somewhat interested to see what ken
(15:21):
Burns puts together. The Civil War documentary that he did
back in the nineties was and is a work of art.
And I know a lot of people have watched additional
ken Burns documentary since he is of the left. But
I the Central Park five documentary, I don't remember whether
he did that or not. I mean, Kit Burnsy did baseball,
(15:43):
he did the Civil War, which is really really well done.
The Civil War documentary is and it was a PBS
huge success story back in the day. I mean, he's
probably the most famous documentary historian in the maybe the world,
certainly the United States. Let's see David in Maryland. You
(16:07):
got a story for us about Veterans Day?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Hi, playing buck, Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, we got youa mm hm ah.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Hey, I got an amazing story to tell you. I
was out in Hawaii for work about fifteen years ago,
and I took a day at the end of my
trip to go see the Pearl Harbor and I went
through all the exhibits and then I took the ship
over to the Arizona and went inside, and there was
an old gentleman there. It was in the center. If
(16:36):
you've ever been there, there's a center opening. He was
standing next to the center opening, and I couldn't really
hear him much because it was crowded. But later on
I walked over to listen to him, and it turned
out he was actually on the ship and he was
on the second He was on the second tallest crow's
nest and he got blown out and he woke up
(16:56):
in the water and so I stayed after. I didn't
even get on the ship back because I wanted to
talk to him. It was so amazing, And he said,
you want to know why I think it blow blew up?
And I said, of course I do. He said, well,
we just put a catapult on about a year before
to send off floatplanes to do some reconnaissance, and we
(17:18):
had to put the chargers somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Stick with us because we've got a heart out here.
If we'll keep him over, we'll bring him. That's one
of the places I'd like to go.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Pearl Harbor, Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Bucks
Show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season
and a joyful New year.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You're enjoying the best of program with Clay, Travis and
Buck Sex.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Come back in here to Clay en Buck. Do we
still have that caller who was telling us a really
interesting story? Did he stay through with us?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, David, and Maryland is still there.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
All right, David, So so you can go now we
have some time. It is Veterans Day and you were
telling a story that we all wanted to hear, So
you can just give us a little a quick recap.
Tell us where you are set the scene because some
listeners will have rejoined does and we'll let you take
this thing all the way, go for it.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Okay, sure, So I was the gentleman. I was talking
to the gentleman after the ship left and now we
were the only two in there, and he said, uh,
you know, want to know why I think the ship
blew up like it did. Was because we had just
put about nine months before we put a catapult on,
and we used to we would send off floatplanes with
(18:24):
special charges to go out to do reconnaissance. And he
said that the powder they used for that was very volatile.
We had no place to store it except in the magazine,
so we set it around the inside of the charges
for the regular guns, which wasn't as volatile. And he
thought that was he thought that would contributed to the explosion.
(18:46):
And then and then it actually gets better claim up
because while we're standing there, just the two of us,
the next ship came up to drop people off, and
here comes everybody up and the very last group coming
up where was an older gentleman with two women on
either side. Women on either side of them helping him
up the grant and up the guy came and he
(19:09):
turned it. It was a Japanese guy and he had
an interpreter there, and he said he was on one
of the planes that had dropped the bombs on Pearl Harbor,
and the two just looked at each other and saluted
each other, and there wasn't a dry eye in the place.
It was unbelievable. He said he'd always wanted to be there.
This was the first time he could go. Wow Harbor.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story
on Veterans Day. Buck, Have you ever been to Pearl Harbor?
Have not? No, have not been. I have never been either.
I would like to go. Let me give a super
endorsement here the World War Two Museum in New Orleans.
I've been to that of amazing, incredible. It's an incredible spot.
(19:52):
And the reason why it comes to mind here is
they put veterans. Veterans would come and stand in the
main lobby that fought in World War Two for years
and years, veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling
and tell their stories to people who came to tour
(20:14):
the World War Two memorial. And there are so few
World War Two veterans left among us now that I
am so grateful that they have done a phenomenal job
of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't
lost to history. With just so many interviews that have
(20:35):
been done with so many of our brave World War
Two veterans. And if you get the opportunity, if you
go to New Orleans, I know it's a huge tourist town.
I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets
hurricanes and has a phenomenal time in that city. Please
take the time to go to the World War Two Museum.
Take your kids. The last time I was in New
(20:57):
Orleans was the Super Bowl last year, and or I
guess early this year. I was really impressed at the
number of kids that were in town to go to
the game. Kind of a cool thing to get to
do as a kid, but that mom and dad were
taking them to as part of being down in town
for that game, that they were taking them also to
(21:18):
the Super Bowl, a lot of Chiefs, a lot of
Eagle fan bases. But when I was there, the number
of kids that I saw was very impressive. So if
you get the opportunity to go tour that museum, I
can't recommend it any higher at all. It truly is extraordinary.
Let's see Dan and Prescott Arizona said, you got to
(21:40):
have a lunch with General Omar Bradley. How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well, in seventy eight, our unit at Fort Bliss, which
is where General Bradley was stationed or retired. Our unit
was best on host and I was fortunate enough to
be best on post also, and General Bradley came and
(22:10):
visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch
with him. And the two star general that pushed him
around instructed me that I could ask him anything except
his view on how General Patten died. And he was
(22:35):
very accommodating, he was very nice, he was still in uniform,
still a wonderful gentleman. But I did not ask him
how General Patton died, and I always wanted to. He
autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries
(22:55):
on it, but never quite satisfied with the answer.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
For the Cotton died in a car accident, right, Well,
that I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated
with that. I did not know that. But yes, I
didn't know that either. That's why I asked. I didn't
know there was anything. Is there is there a conspiracy
that why would Omar Bradley have not General Bradley have
not been a wanted you answer asking that question? Do
(23:20):
you have any idea?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yes, after reading several books. The accident was such a
small accident. Nobody else was injured. There were just a
lot of things that don't add up. You could you
could ask Bill O'Reilly, he wrote The Killing Patten, and
(23:44):
we will.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Ask Bill O'Reilly. He scheduled to be on in the
next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So what Thursday call got We got uncle Bill Thursday,
so we'll mark this one down for him.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What yeah, well, well we'll ask him about this.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Is there anything specific that you wanted us to dive
into with Uncle Bill?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I said, just the special around his view on how
Paton gotcha?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sure? Sure, that's a good tease for Sharon, who's on
the road right now, and she says, Bill O'Reilly's going
to be on with us Thursday. You just listen to
one of his books out there. By the way, you
should book Buck. I bought your book, so I have
spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be
out in February, which will arrive, I believe at my
(24:26):
house on publication day. You should also go buy balls,
especially if people don't have balls in your life, maybe
they can get it through the through the book. But Sharon,
you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series
on history, and you just read one of them.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yes, I just drove from Western Montana and I'm heading
home to Indianapolis. I'm in Illinois right now, but I
spent two days on I ninety listening to Killing England
and it was fant past. I mean, I've read other
of his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything
(25:06):
else right now, but anyway, it was a fantastic book.
And when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call
in because it was just insane. These guys didn't even
have shoes. They had to tie rags to their feet,
and the British would track them through the snow because
of the blood that they left behind.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's unbelievable, it really is. I mean, again, having just read,
thank you for the call, Sharon. Stay safe on the
road as you travel back to Indianapolis. Having just read
about Valley Ford. But nobody had shoes. I mean, think
about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine
(25:47):
walking around in those rags and dealing clay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's it's honestly, you know, this is kind of this
is hitting home for you today. In South Florida. It's
fifty degrees here, my friend, I mean there are It's
just like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is the super Bowl falling apart in Florida, right.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You got iguana's falling out of the trees. You got
everyone walking around in ski parka is because the only
clothing they have that's warm, that's cold weather, is when
they go skiing. It's it's pandemonium out here in the fifties,
my friend, So Valley Forge, no shoes, I know what
it was like. I know it was like for those guys.
I'm walking around here, I have to put socks on
in my sandals. Down here in Miami, it's madness.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It is. It is Miami's version of Valley Forge. People
think I'm joking about that. But the iguanas freeze in
the trees and fall out iguana popsicles when it gets
cold there.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
They're not dead, They're just they their heartbeat slows down
so much, or their system slows down so much that
they essentially pass out. And they fall out of trees.
And by the way, they are pretty big.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
If you can get imagine or killed by an iguana
falling out of the tree, that'd be a tough way
to get that's ever happened, But I just can't tell
you when you see one and it's lying there and
it's all because this happens. They're they're considerable.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They will whip you with their tail too, so when
they wake up, you don't want to be and they
have a little sharp teeth.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
This is why it's feeling all amazing that they just
go to like they just freeze like that and and
truly fall out of the trees and for.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know, you know they're they were they're escaped pets.
They're an invasive species. Oh yeah here in South Florida.
They are absolutely not native. They came from South America.
They are not native to Miami. But man have they
taken to this habitat. And unfortunately they're really rough on
foundations for buildings.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
They burrow and they dig, so they can be a pest.
They can be dangerous to.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Building structures, sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons
that they have here now. Also pets that were released
the pets that I like, though, we have parrots that
have been released, and the parrots are fun, they're nice.
They're not native either. There are very few of these
species that people associate with. Alligators and crocodiles. The only
place in the world where they coexist in the same
(27:59):
ecosystem is and they are native to South Florida Manates
obviously there, you know. And then the sharks, which we've
talked about a lot, but a lot of the things
you think of as Florida animals, they're pets that people
brought here.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bruce in Hastings, Minnesota, you got to call for us
about the World War Two museum.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard you
guys talking about that, and just to let you know,
they are still collecting stories. They my dad's World War
two bet he turns one hundred on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Oh, that's awesome. Congratulate him for us. Sorry to cut
you off, but congratulate him for one hundred on us.
And so they're still collecting the stories.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
He was shot down over Tokyo in the b twenty
nine and Pow in Japan for the last several months
of the war, so they're still collecting stories. It's on
my bucket list to get down there and see the
place myself.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So who, thank you so much? Grab by way real quick, Bruce,
any tips? And I mean, when it's fifty degrees in Minnesota,
you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn like?
Cause that doesn't bother you at all? Right, that's like
a ball me day in Minnesota pretty much.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I was up at my cabin this weekend. It was
about nineteen and I was sweating, So you know, there
we go.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he admitt Man, he's at Minnesota. People they would out,
they would outlast us. Florida people are sauty.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That you You as a New Yorker, you dealt with
cold winners quite a lot because New York City, the
wind is brutal through so many of those buildings and
everything else. You're now down in Miami. When we were
in Fort Wayne, Indiana, we stepped off the plane. It
was a little chilly in Fort Wayne. You were ready
to just head straight back to Miami. You're like, it's
(29:41):
fifty four degrees. I don't know a lot of people living.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I wanted to light a little a little fire and
just keep my hands, you know, over it outside because
it was so cold in Indiana. I think it was
in like the high fifties. I don't know how you
guys deal with this stuff really really tough. So you
know we're working on it. Though we're working on it. Well,
take some more called clay. Who U did you have
if your grandparents generation military service on that side.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, and my uncle is actually eighty four. He's dealing
right now with cancer. I'm glad you mentioned this. He
listens and tries to watch as he can. But he
was in Vietnam and sou and worked on While in Vietnam,
(30:26):
he was in charge of helicopter maintenance repair and one
of the crazy things I think I mentioned this before
on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody
who would build the helicopters was as as steadfast in
their uh in their rehabilitation and then their fixing of
the helicopters was every time they fixed one, they had
to be the first guys to go up in it.
(30:47):
So for anybody that has been in a helicopter, they
would bring him in say hey, there they need maintenance,
they need to be fixed, and then you go right
up in it, so the way that you knew that
you were working on it and making sure that it
was as good as anybody could be. So he flew
all over Vietnam my helicopters.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather who's passed away
years ago. But he was an officer on the USS Batan,
which is one of those converted converted aircraft carriers. It
was essentially they did this quick fix to these ships
to make them into I think they're called cr not crvs.
(31:27):
I forget there's some some designation for them. But yeah,
he was He initially was a pilot and did some
did some training pilot training. But I just remember reading
about how I think we lost was it fifteen thousand
or thirty thousand people to flight accidents in the Pacific theater?
(31:47):
Not shot down, never found him, just the plane crashed
in the ocean, and that was that going between theaters
of conflict now, you know, like transport essentially, I think
it was something like either fifteen or thirty thousand, some
astonishing with training accidents and astonishing the high numbers. So yeah,
there's a lot of ways that people are taking risks
(32:08):
when they serve you're.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're going
to continue to take your calls, but on the mic
right now, if you can hear it bouncing around a
little bit, is a super cute baby boy who is
a chunk in his veterans day gear.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Can I just say, Baby Speed wants to say, with
his American flag attire, thank you to all of our veterans.
He's very thankful and very proud.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Including his grandpa who is and all of their family,
which are longtime military family. We'll take some of your
calls when we come back, but this is a bribe
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(33:07):
the YouTube channel, and I guarantee you that this video
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Speaker 3 (33:12):
He is fascinated by the microphone. We might have a
future podcaster here, my friend, or a d lineman based
on the way these legs are going. He's he's a
big I don't think we got a I don't think
we got a quarterback here. I think we got Somebody's
gonna be tackling people.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He's gonna be in the oh. You can hear him.
He's starting to he's making his first he is making
his debut on the air. He's going to be in
the trenches, creating running back holes.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Say something, Say mama, you got mama. No, okay, another time.
He's a little shy right now. Apparently we're back.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Final Hour. Next
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy
New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We are very pleased to be joined by our friend
David Rutherford. He's a former Navy seal served a combat
tour in Afghanistan. He's also the host of the Dave
Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck podcast network, which
is growing, growing, growing every month. It is a fantastic program.
Recommend you all go check it out. Dave, we call
(00:35):
you Rutt. So for anyone who's confused, mister Rutt, tell
us first off, your thoughts on this Veterans Day, speaking
for yourself and your fellow veterans out there, what's your
top level view? How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh, Bucks, Clay, thanks for having me on again. I
think for veterans right now there's a rebirth. There's a
revival taking place in Pete is doing. I mean, every
time I see Joe Kent post something, I want to
go get my kid on and you know, sign back up.
And I just think right now there's a revitalization and
(01:13):
the numbers are showing that people are wanting to go in,
they're wanting to serve. They believe that the President is
fired up to you know, make the American military the
mightiest force in the world again. And I think it's
a real positive moment for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
When you see those enlistment numbers and Pete Hexth came
out at the Patriot Awards and he was talking about
them on Thursday night, and I know that on this
Veteran's Day, they're shining a bright light on it. Isn't
that the best actual indication of how the Secretary of
War as we now have it renamed, but the Secretary
(01:52):
of Defense for the last thirty or forty years. Isn't
that the ultimate judgment on him and on the trajectory
of the military. Do people want to join or not?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah? I mean absolutely it is. I mean how you
went to that, I mean, I love that there was
this incredible gala, right, You saw the Marine Corps balls,
you saw Vice President Events speak at Evans speak at one.
You know, the E five mafia represented at the highest levels. Yeah,
people are stoked and the numbers reflect that. You know,
(02:26):
I think it's it's you know, the other the other
great challenge is because we're not in a very substantial
kinetic environment right now, that it's difficult to tell, you know,
whether it'll last, because that's the real testament. Do people
stay in over when there's high levels of combat? But
(02:46):
right now I think young people, young American twenty four
year old men, are are revitalized with this idea that
I can go and serve in the military that my uncle,
that my father, that my grandfather, that my great grandfather
served in and I'm gonna get that genuine sense of
(03:08):
real patriotism and service.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Dave, take us back, if you would, to your decision
to join up, Just what it was like going through,
what was going through your head, what your feelings were
about at the motivations, your sense of what it would
mean to be in the Navy, and of course to
join the teams become a Navy seal. Like, just take
us back to that moment, because I think for a
lot of people who today maybe are considering once again.
(03:34):
You know, we have younger audience members who are listening
who might be thinking about it. We have college age
people listening who might be considering it. What was your
mindset like when you first decided I'm gonna throw my
hat in the ring.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's a great question, Bock. You know, for me, I
was struggling to try and figure out what I wanted
to do with my life. You know, my athletic career
hadn't worked out the way I had hoped at college level,
and I was just in the position where it's like,
what is the meaning of my life going to represent?
And you know, my great great uncle was in Rose
(04:08):
Theodore Roosevelt's cabinet. You know, I had you know, it's
been several generations since anybody had served, but you know,
I that legacy and link I think was a driving
force as well as just my you know, I was
a gen x er. I was influenced by Rambo and
Commando and all the incredible movies that you know, showed
(04:31):
American military might and power at the highest levels, popped
on Navy seals, and that consumed me. I was like,
this is the this is the thing that's going to
put me on my way, help me figure out what
I'm made of if I'm if I can represent something
bigger than myself and and something that will give me
(04:51):
purpose and meaning. To figure out the longer term idea
of what I might ultimately become. So yeah, it was
a pow or full influence over me to go try
and become a part of you know, not only the
DD but the Navy and the seal teams and down
all the way to the guys that were next to
me that I served with.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
We're talking to David Rutherford. Encourage you to go subscribe
to his podcast. It's a part of the Clay and
Buck podcast network. It's Veterans Day. You are a Navy
Seal and I don't know if we've ever asked you
this question, but when you were going through the process
of becoming a Navy Seal, what was the toughest thing
to you about the Navy seal process itself? It was
(05:37):
there a moment where you thought, I cannot push myself
any further. And we've got a lot of people out there,
a lot of young guys that listen to us and
maybe aspire to be a Navy seal one day. What
would you say they should know? What would you say
they should do?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I think the biggest thing is to recognize that you
have so much more in your res of of willpower
than you can even imagine. You know, in these programs,
whether it's Buds or it's selection or the Q course
or Mars Socks or whatever, amazing selection process from all
the different soft units. Like you have to realize you
(06:18):
have what it takes. It's just a question of believing
in yourself. And then for me, the biggest thing is
I didn't want to let the guys down next to me.
That was the biggest motivator. Like I'm going to be honest,
I thought about, you know, quitting all the time. I mean,
the pain of just going through it, being wet, being sandy,
(06:38):
being miserable, having people scream at you, the whole thing.
But what it does for me is it just motivated
me to be better for the guys next to me,
and then they became the ultimate motivation. So you know,
I think when you're thinking about what it is first
and foremost the number one thing. And I just had
a call with a young man the other day who's
in college and you know, really thinking about it, And
(07:00):
the thing I say to most is is do the
deep dive understand what you're committing to understand. You know.
Bongino Stan put a great text out or tweet out
today where he said, you know, the ultimate thing is service,
serving the men and women that are next to you
in the line of fire, and and and that is
(07:22):
the thing that is the driving force ultimately. I you know,
I know guys that have eight hundred combat missions. I
know a couple of guys that five hundred, four hundred.
You know, multiple silver stars, five bronze stars with valors.
These are the ultimate heroes and you ask them why
did you serve? Why did you fight as hard.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
As you did?
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And the ultimate thing always comes down because of the
man that was next to me. And so you know,
that's the driving force. If you want to participate with
the with the very highest caliber of committed human beings
to you and your success, then these programs are are
right for you.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Dave, I wanted you to also weigh in on how
are we doing? You know, there was this whole period
during the gat era where a lot of people who
served and a lot of people who saw combat were
being brought back in and going through the transition back
into civilian life. That is less of a focus now
in the general public discussion that it was because you
(08:22):
point out we're not really an active combat zones.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The way we were before.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
How are we doing and taking care of our veterans though,
because whether it's we have tunnel to towers for example,
a great sponsor here on the program, you know, there
are some veterans who have long term needs who still
need that assistance from whether it's psychological or physical wounds.
You know, is the VA getting the attention it needs
under this administration? You know, I'm wondering how we're doing
(08:47):
on that front.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I still believe there is an I measurable amount of
work to be done. Yeah, I see the director of
the VA going on all the shows, an he's saying
the right things, but there are still you know, thousands,
tens of thousands of people in the soft community alone
that took the braunt of those grote operational tempo, you know,
(09:13):
and it's not just the combat deployments, it's the endless
training cycles right then also have a really profound effect.
And that's why for me, I really kind of linked
myself to doctor Chris Free and the framework of operator syndrome,
you know, where I started a little nonprofit to really
try and figure out how to address the seventeen different
(09:37):
medical and behavioral health challenges that long term exposure to
high training tempos and high deployment cycles has an impact
on people. You know, you can't send a guy, you know,
doing fourteen fifteen deployments and not expect there to be
some long term damage. And that's why, you know, there
(09:57):
was actually just a new study from a Stanford doctor
that did a case study with two hundred special operations
guys that and he used the operator syndrome framework, and
that study they're validated the original paper and book written
by doctor Chris Free that this is a reality, right
(10:20):
that long term exposure causes metabolic destabilization, It causes behavioral
health challenges in different ways, yes, TTSD, but also survivors guilt,
extensive existential challenges, intimacy issues. Right then you have neurogenic
issues from blast wave exposure, you know, endocrin dysfunction, and
(10:40):
then the orthopedic injuries, the perpetual living and pain, and
so you know, I think there's still a lot of
work to be done. There's a lot of work to
be done at the administrative level to at least bring
in this Stanford doc and doctor. I would love to
(11:01):
see them be able to testify on Capitol Hill and
tell the people that are in charge of the funding
to harve out a little bit of funding to do
research on operators syndrome. I mean, we've seen the most
most substantial thing I think we've seen on the has
been on the state level. You saw a former governor
(11:21):
Perry work with the lawyer Hubbard was his name, and
they got fifty million dollars in funding to do research
on I've a gain in five VMO DMT, which is
the VETS program initiative that really helps guys run, get sober,
come off prescription drugs, and then the other to re
establish neuroelasticity and establish new brain patterning that can help
(11:45):
facilitate putting some of those demons to rest. So there's
a lot of work to be done, a lot of
guys still struggling. And what I would really love is
that for the next kinetic war that could take place,
which right now could be anywhere, I hope that we
have a better plan in place to take care of
them as opposed to what the GAT guys, the Vietnam guys,
(12:10):
the Korean and then also world where two guys did
not receive.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
David Rutherford, thank you for your service, our friend. We
appreciate you, appreciate what you did for the country and
also would recommend all of you listening go check out
the David Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network.
Rut always appreciate you man, Thank you for giving us
your time today.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
God bless you guys. Thank you Buck for your service too, Buddy,
take care much.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Thank you, Ma, Man you too.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
While we're spending time with family this holiday season and
Buck is stuck in a sound booth recording his new book,
you can listen to us on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Play Don't Rub it In But That's right. Just fire
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Hang guaranteed laughs, or check out any of our other
great hosts in the Clay and Buck podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
There's so much content you won't even miss.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Us, but we'll miss you and look forward to speaking
with you again in the new year.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Until then, si'ld time you're listening to the best of
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Veterans Day
edition of the program. A lot of different stories we
are following a bunch of people want to weigh in
variety of different topics relating to Veterans Day. Let's take
some of these calls, David and Louisiana. We were talking
about some of the things that veterans went through, and
(13:32):
you're saying Jonathan Plumb Martin, who was a famous diarist
who fought in the Revolutionary War with the Condinal Army.
I have not read it. I've seen it excerpted quite
a lot, because he is one of the foremost chroniclers
of what life was like for soldiers in those eras.
What did you come away with your biggest impression being David, Yeah,
(13:56):
I just.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Want to correct something. His name was Joseph Plum Martin
and his book is called.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
A Private Yankee Doodle.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It is.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Uh, it's pretty easy to get. And uh, I'm a
I'm a twenty year veteran. I'm retired Navy.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
And I wanted to wish Buck a happy Veterans Day
and really enjoy your show. And before I just wanted
to say one thing. The last time I talked to
somebody at this number, it was the great Rush Limbaugh.
So it's a very I'm very excited to talk to
you guys because I think you are a great Uh.
It's a great way to keep on the Old Rush Show.
(14:35):
So thank you very much for what you guys do well.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Thank you for the call, thank you for your service.
And yes we're going to fire producer Greg for leading
me over the middle and writing the wrong person's name
down in the uh in the roster there, but it
is the plumb Martin UH. If you watch or read
anything relating to the Revolutionary War, that is a huge
(14:57):
part of the discussion. Are you inter did at all?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Buck?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I believe it debuts in the next few days, in
the new ken Burns Revolutionary War documentary. Have you seen
him doing a bunch of media lately on it. I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'm actually because I'm reading
the Rick Atkinson books right now, the trilogy. He's only
two volumes in. I'm somewhat interested to see what ken
(15:21):
Burns puts together. The Civil War documentary that he did
back in the nineties was and is a work of art.
And I know a lot of people have watched additional
ken Burns documentary since he is of the left. But
I the Central Park five documentary, I don't remember whether
he did that or not. I mean, Kit Burnsy did baseball,
(15:43):
he did the Civil War, which is really really well done.
The Civil War documentary is and it was a PBS
huge success story back in the day. I mean, he's
probably the most famous documentary historian in the maybe the world,
certainly the United States. Let's see David in Maryland. You
(16:07):
got a story for us about Veterans Day?
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Hi, playing buck, Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, we got youa mm hm ah.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Hey, I got an amazing story to tell you. I
was out in Hawaii for work about fifteen years ago,
and I took a day at the end of my
trip to go see the Pearl Harbor and I went
through all the exhibits and then I took the ship
over to the Arizona and went inside, and there was
an old gentleman there. It was in the center. If
(16:36):
you've ever been there, there's a center opening. He was
standing next to the center opening, and I couldn't really
hear him much because it was crowded. But later on
I walked over to listen to him, and it turned
out he was actually on the ship and he was
on the second He was on the second tallest crow's
nest and he got blown out and he woke up
(16:56):
in the water and so I stayed after. I didn't
even get on the ship back because I wanted to
talk to him. It was so amazing, And he said,
you want to know why I think it blow blew up?
And I said, of course I do. He said, well,
we just put a catapult on about a year before
to send off floatplanes to do some reconnaissance, and we
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had to put the chargers somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Stick with us because we've got a heart out here.
If we'll keep him over, we'll bring him. That's one
of the places I'd like to go.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Pearl Harbor, Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Bucks
Show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season
and a joyful New year.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You're enjoying the best of program with Clay, Travis and
Buck Sex.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Come back in here to Clay en Buck. Do we
still have that caller who was telling us a really
interesting story? Did he stay through with us?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, David, and Maryland is still there.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
All right, David, So so you can go now we
have some time. It is Veterans Day and you were
telling a story that we all wanted to hear, So
you can just give us a little a quick recap.
Tell us where you are set the scene because some
listeners will have rejoined does and we'll let you take
this thing all the way, go for it.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Okay, sure, So I was the gentleman. I was talking
to the gentleman after the ship left and now we
were the only two in there, and he said, uh,
you know, want to know why I think the ship
blew up like it did. Was because we had just
put about nine months before we put a catapult on,
and we used to we would send off floatplanes with
(18:24):
special charges to go out to do reconnaissance. And he
said that the powder they used for that was very volatile.
We had no place to store it except in the magazine,
so we set it around the inside of the charges
for the regular guns, which wasn't as volatile. And he
thought that was he thought that would contributed to the explosion.
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And then and then it actually gets better claim up
because while we're standing there, just the two of us,
the next ship came up to drop people off, and
here comes everybody up and the very last group coming
up where was an older gentleman with two women on
either side. Women on either side of them helping him
up the grant and up the guy came and he
(19:09):
turned it. It was a Japanese guy and he had
an interpreter there, and he said he was on one
of the planes that had dropped the bombs on Pearl Harbor,
and the two just looked at each other and saluted
each other, and there wasn't a dry eye in the place.
It was unbelievable. He said he'd always wanted to be there.
This was the first time he could go. Wow Harbor.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, thank you for calling in and sharing that story
on Veterans Day. Buck, Have you ever been to Pearl Harbor?
Have not? No, have not been. I have never been either.
I would like to go. Let me give a super
endorsement here the World War Two Museum in New Orleans.
I've been to that of amazing, incredible. It's an incredible spot.
(19:52):
And the reason why it comes to mind here is
they put veterans. Veterans would come and stand in the
main lobby that fought in World War Two for years
and years, veterans from the New Orleans area, veterans traveling
and tell their stories to people who came to tour
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the World War Two memorial. And there are so few
World War Two veterans left among us now that I
am so grateful that they have done a phenomenal job
of chronicling so many of those stories so they aren't
lost to history. With just so many interviews that have
(20:35):
been done with so many of our brave World War
Two veterans. And if you get the opportunity, if you
go to New Orleans, I know it's a huge tourist town.
I know everybody gets out on Bourbon Street and gets
hurricanes and has a phenomenal time in that city. Please
take the time to go to the World War Two Museum.
Take your kids. The last time I was in New
(20:57):
Orleans was the Super Bowl last year, and or I
guess early this year. I was really impressed at the
number of kids that were in town to go to
the game. Kind of a cool thing to get to
do as a kid, but that mom and dad were
taking them to as part of being down in town
for that game, that they were taking them also to
(21:18):
the Super Bowl, a lot of Chiefs, a lot of
Eagle fan bases. But when I was there, the number
of kids that I saw was very impressive. So if
you get the opportunity to go tour that museum, I
can't recommend it any higher at all. It truly is extraordinary.
Let's see Dan and Prescott Arizona said, you got to
(21:40):
have a lunch with General Omar Bradley. How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well, in seventy eight, our unit at Fort Bliss, which
is where General Bradley was stationed or retired. Our unit
was best on host and I was fortunate enough to
be best on post also, and General Bradley came and
(22:10):
visited our unit, and I was selected to have lunch
with him. And the two star general that pushed him
around instructed me that I could ask him anything except
his view on how General Patten died. And he was
(22:35):
very accommodating, he was very nice, he was still in uniform,
still a wonderful gentleman. But I did not ask him
how General Patton died, and I always wanted to. He
autographed his book for me, and I've seen several documentaries
(22:55):
on it, but never quite satisfied with the answer.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
For the Cotton died in a car accident, right, Well,
that I'm assuming there must be a conspiracy theory associated
with that. I did not know that. But yes, I
didn't know that either. That's why I asked. I didn't
know there was anything. Is there is there a conspiracy
that why would Omar Bradley have not General Bradley have
not been a wanted you answer asking that question? Do
(23:20):
you have any idea?
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yes, after reading several books. The accident was such a
small accident. Nobody else was injured. There were just a
lot of things that don't add up. You could you
could ask Bill O'Reilly, he wrote The Killing Patten, and
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we will.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Ask Bill O'Reilly. He scheduled to be on in the
next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So what Thursday call got We got uncle Bill Thursday,
so we'll mark this one down for him.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
What yeah, well, well we'll ask him about this.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Is there anything specific that you wanted us to dive
into with Uncle Bill?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I said, just the special around his view on how
Paton gotcha?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sure? Sure, that's a good tease for Sharon, who's on
the road right now, and she says, Bill O'Reilly's going
to be on with us Thursday. You just listen to
one of his books out there. By the way, you
should book Buck. I bought your book, so I have
spent the money for Buck's new book, which will be
out in February, which will arrive, I believe at my
(24:26):
house on publication day. You should also go buy balls,
especially if people don't have balls in your life, maybe
they can get it through the through the book. But Sharon,
you just read Bill O'Reilly's got a hugely successful series
on history, and you just read one of them.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yes, I just drove from Western Montana and I'm heading
home to Indianapolis. I'm in Illinois right now, but I
spent two days on I ninety listening to Killing England
and it was fant past. I mean, I've read other
of his books, Killing Witches, and I can't remember anything
(25:06):
else right now, but anyway, it was a fantastic book.
And when you mentioned Valley Forge, I had to call
in because it was just insane. These guys didn't even
have shoes. They had to tie rags to their feet,
and the British would track them through the snow because
of the blood that they left behind.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
It's unbelievable, it really is. I mean, again, having just read,
thank you for the call, Sharon. Stay safe on the
road as you travel back to Indianapolis. Having just read
about Valley Ford. But nobody had shoes. I mean, think
about how cold it is wherever you are, and imagine
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walking around in those rags and dealing clay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's it's honestly, you know, this is kind of this
is hitting home for you today. In South Florida. It's
fifty degrees here, my friend, I mean there are It's
just like.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is the super Bowl falling apart in Florida, right.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
You got iguana's falling out of the trees. You got
everyone walking around in ski parka is because the only
clothing they have that's warm, that's cold weather, is when
they go skiing. It's it's pandemonium out here in the fifties,
my friend, So Valley Forge, no shoes, I know what
it was like. I know it was like for those guys.
I'm walking around here, I have to put socks on
in my sandals. Down here in Miami, it's madness.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It is. It is Miami's version of Valley Forge. People
think I'm joking about that. But the iguanas freeze in
the trees and fall out iguana popsicles when it gets
cold there.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
They're not dead, They're just they their heartbeat slows down
so much, or their system slows down so much that
they essentially pass out. And they fall out of trees.
And by the way, they are pretty big.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
If you can get imagine or killed by an iguana
falling out of the tree, that'd be a tough way
to get that's ever happened, But I just can't tell
you when you see one and it's lying there and
it's all because this happens. They're they're considerable.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They will whip you with their tail too, so when
they wake up, you don't want to be and they
have a little sharp teeth.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
This is why it's feeling all amazing that they just
go to like they just freeze like that and and
truly fall out of the trees and for.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know, you know they're they were they're escaped pets.
They're an invasive species. Oh yeah here in South Florida.
They are absolutely not native. They came from South America.
They are not native to Miami. But man have they
taken to this habitat. And unfortunately they're really rough on
foundations for buildings.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
They burrow and they dig, so they can be a pest.
They can be dangerous to.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Building structures, sort of like the boa constrictors and pythons
that they have here now. Also pets that were released
the pets that I like, though, we have parrots that
have been released, and the parrots are fun, they're nice.
They're not native either. There are very few of these
species that people associate with. Alligators and crocodiles. The only
place in the world where they coexist in the same
(27:59):
ecosystem is and they are native to South Florida Manates
obviously there, you know. And then the sharks, which we've
talked about a lot, but a lot of the things
you think of as Florida animals, they're pets that people
brought here.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bruce in Hastings, Minnesota, you got to call for us
about the World War Two museum.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Just hopped in my truck, turned it on, heard you
guys talking about that, and just to let you know,
they are still collecting stories. They my dad's World War
two bet he turns one hundred on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Oh, that's awesome. Congratulate him for us. Sorry to cut
you off, but congratulate him for one hundred on us.
And so they're still collecting the stories.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
He was shot down over Tokyo in the b twenty
nine and Pow in Japan for the last several months
of the war, so they're still collecting stories. It's on
my bucket list to get down there and see the
place myself.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So who, thank you so much? Grab by way real quick, Bruce,
any tips? And I mean, when it's fifty degrees in Minnesota,
you guys, do you sleep shirtless outside on your lawn like?
Cause that doesn't bother you at all? Right, that's like
a ball me day in Minnesota pretty much.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I was up at my cabin this weekend. It was
about nineteen and I was sweating, So you know, there
we go.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, he admitt Man, he's at Minnesota. People they would out,
they would outlast us. Florida people are sauty.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That you You as a New Yorker, you dealt with
cold winners quite a lot because New York City, the
wind is brutal through so many of those buildings and
everything else. You're now down in Miami. When we were
in Fort Wayne, Indiana, we stepped off the plane. It
was a little chilly in Fort Wayne. You were ready
to just head straight back to Miami. You're like, it's
(29:41):
fifty four degrees. I don't know a lot of people living.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I wanted to light a little a little fire and
just keep my hands, you know, over it outside because
it was so cold in Indiana. I think it was
in like the high fifties. I don't know how you
guys deal with this stuff really really tough. So you
know we're working on it. Though we're working on it. Well,
take some more called clay. Who U did you have
if your grandparents generation military service on that side.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, and my uncle is actually eighty four. He's dealing
right now with cancer. I'm glad you mentioned this. He
listens and tries to watch as he can. But he
was in Vietnam and sou and worked on While in Vietnam,
(30:26):
he was in charge of helicopter maintenance repair and one
of the crazy things I think I mentioned this before
on the show, but one way they ensured that everybody
who would build the helicopters was as as steadfast in
their uh in their rehabilitation and then their fixing of
the helicopters was every time they fixed one, they had
to be the first guys to go up in it.
(30:47):
So for anybody that has been in a helicopter, they
would bring him in say hey, there they need maintenance,
they need to be fixed, and then you go right
up in it, so the way that you knew that
you were working on it and making sure that it
was as good as anybody could be. So he flew
all over Vietnam my helicopters.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
My mother's father, so my maternal grandfather who's passed away
years ago. But he was an officer on the USS Batan,
which is one of those converted converted aircraft carriers. It
was essentially they did this quick fix to these ships
to make them into I think they're called cr not crvs.
(31:27):
I forget there's some some designation for them. But yeah,
he was He initially was a pilot and did some
did some training pilot training. But I just remember reading
about how I think we lost was it fifteen thousand
or thirty thousand people to flight accidents in the Pacific theater?
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Not shot down, never found him, just the plane crashed
in the ocean, and that was that going between theaters
of conflict now, you know, like transport essentially, I think
it was something like either fifteen or thirty thousand, some
astonishing with training accidents and astonishing the high numbers. So yeah,
there's a lot of ways that people are taking risks
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when they serve you're.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
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Speaker 3 (32:33):
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He's very thankful and very proud.
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Speaker 3 (33:12):
He is fascinated by the microphone. We might have a
future podcaster here, my friend, or a d lineman based
on the way these legs are going. He's he's a
big I don't think we got a I don't think
we got a quarterback here. I think we got Somebody's
gonna be tackling people.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He's gonna be in the oh. You can hear him.
He's starting to he's making his first he is making
his debut on the air. He's going to be in
the trenches, creating running back holes.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Say something, Say mama, you got mama. No, okay, another time.
He's a little shy right now. Apparently we're back.
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