December 25, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family of very mary Christmas and a happy
New Year. Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Buck
Show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season
and a joyful New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, by
the way, is reacting. Everybody thinks it's as crazy as
you and I do. Buck. It's an embarrassment to France
that they could steal the Crown Jewels. If somebody could
go in and steal this sounds like a Nicholas Cage
movie because it is the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution,
(00:46):
I would say, yeah, we really blew it here. I
would guess that's probably the top thing that could be
stolen in America. The French Crown jewels just being stolen
is embarrassing. As part of all my reading about the
French Crown Jewels being stolen, I forgot, you know, they
stole the Mona Lisa in the early nineteen hundreds. So
(01:12):
if you were France and you had had previously the
Mona Lisa stolen out of the same museum one hundred
years ago. Don't you think you would have said, hey,
let's make sure that none of our priceless artifacts ever
get stolen again. And yet France somehow allowed this to occur.
(01:37):
And to your point, Buck, it was the middle of
the day. They just pulled in a lift, They went
in through the second floor window. They were there for
I've seen different reports seven to ten minutes, which is
a really long time to be in the most secure
(01:57):
museum in your country. It should be. And then they
left on motorcycles and now they have no idea where
they are. And you mentioned, you know, it's hard to
sell these, and I think that's probably true. But my
expert knowledge from the very high end television show Outer Banks,
(02:18):
one possibility would be that they just melt this down
for the jewels. But that doesn't seem like such a
good move because of the problem is historic value. You
can't you can't you can't melt the jewel. These are
diamonds and emeralds, so you're not gonna melt those down, right,
You got to keep them whole? Can you you melt diamonds?
(02:38):
I don't think you can know, well, I think you
melt the gold and then you isolate all of the
diamonds for the value. But out these diamonds and these
emeralds are going to be so big, like you're not
gonna able to go on the on the open market.
You're like, hey, I just happened to have this twenty
carried emerald that I found. Uh, you know, I I
(03:00):
am simultaneously impressed by the hutzpah of the robbers because
I mean, they decided we're going to steal the French
crown jewels and they managed to do it. I would
imagine that they have been preparing for this for some time,
although the report is they dropped one of the most
valuable assets, like the one of the crowns I think
(03:25):
or something, and so it was left behind and damaged.
But I wonder, do you think this is some insanely
wealthy person who funds this, because what is the motivation
here other than embarrassing the French government, Because I can't
imagine that it pays actually that well, unless there's some
super rich billionaire who just decided he had to have
(03:48):
the Impress's the Impress's necklace. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's like you're going on Thomas Crown affair, like maybe
there's somebody out there who's just.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So bored with his life. He's like, you know what
I'm going to do. I'm going to steal the French
crown jewels out of the louver. So I don't know.
I wonder if some Middle Eastern shake.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, that's kind of my thought, wonder wants so badly
to have the French crown jewels in his in his
safe that he would But that's I gotta run if
in high risks here if that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's not the you know, Middle Eastern ruler. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Also, just there's more fun thing like go buy yourself
a European soccer team or something.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know what I mean, do what all the other
super rich foreign guys do. I mean the crown jewels,
I don't know what you do with them. My thought is,
if it's true that it was some Middle Eastern shake
or something that says, hey, go get the the Empress
Josephine's you know, necklace. This is kind of the Middle
Eastern shake equivalent of when Kobe bought his wife the
(04:50):
twelve million dollar ring after he got caught cheating on her.
Like one of those middle Eastern cheeks did something really bad,
and he's like, She's like, the only way I'll stay
with you is if you get me the Impress Josephine's necklace.
And he's like, all right, I guess we got to
get the Impress Josephine's necklace, right, Like, do you remember
Kobe when he got caught? Actually was I was the woman.
(05:11):
The woman accused him of raping her, yes, right of rape,
and his wife stayed with him after the rape accusation.
But they had a press conference and she showed up
with a diamond that was like a twenty Carrit's like
twenty somebody, look up how big the diamond? It was
like four carrots. Clay, I don't think it was. I
think it was like twenty carrots is like a is
(05:33):
like a football. I think she basically showed up with
a with a flashlight sized diamond. I mean, like it
blinded everyone at the press conference. They were like, why
did you decide to stay with Kobe? And she like
raised her hand and four people lost their eyesight when
they caught the reflection from the diamond. Eight It was eight.
So we kind of split the difference between us. I said, four.
(05:53):
You said twenty is eighty twenty carrot ring would be
like a baseball eight car ring is a ridiculous ring.
And this was pre all the fake diamonds, right, like
the diamond industry.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
On a second, they're not fake diamonds you're talking about necessarily,
there are such things as fake diamonds. You're talking about
lab dimonrect and I know some people in the jewel business,
and they're real diamonds. They're just made under laboratory conditions.
Oh yeah, much less expense. Basically natural diamonds and no
one's hands get chopped off in in Africa by the
(06:31):
warlords who are trying to mind them, you know, the
blood diamonds stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah. No, it's basically destroyed the diamond industry because they're
able to produce the synthetic diamonds. I think is the
technical term that instead of fake. Uh that people to
a large extent can't tell the different. It's a lab.
I believe lab dimond is synthetic is at a right
ord too. I don't know by the way, but till
that's probably accurate. But I'm just saying that they're usually
(06:54):
lab diamonds. Is how lab grown diamonds.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think I remember this from when I was buying
carry her and agement ring and people were I did
not go LAB. I probably should have gone lab because
that was I told her this the most expensive thing
I ever bought in my life ever, because I didn't
own a home, was was my wife's engagement room.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
With Well, this is also where you didn't get married
till after you already made money. See, I didn't have
any money, I don't think. By the way, Kobe's ring
was valued at four million dollars twenty years ago, so
this is probably close to a ten million dollar ring
in modern you know, the way that Biden inflation has gone.
(07:32):
I didn't have much money when I got engaged. In fact,
I think I had. I certainly had a negative next war,
a negative net worth and when I got engaged, so
it was a lot of money to meet, but it
wasn't a lot of money in the larger context. You,
on the other hand, you get married, you're already you
had to you had to produce a good ring because
you got real money. Now, so well, they do this
(07:53):
thing of three months so that salary that's great, which
is insane. But guys, all right, I'm gonna tell you said, right,
for all the game, we don't have a lot of
unmarried guys listening who are still want to get married.
We have, we have some, but you know, I think
a lot we we we specialize our audience is overwhelmingly
gonna be people who are married or have been married, right,
I think that that's true. We don't have a lot
(08:14):
of guys in their twenties and thirties in particular who
are like looking to get married. But for any of
you out there, we'll tell you a few things. Do
not go into debt for uh, for diamonds, for vacations,
or for anything that that that you know, weddings do
not go in debt for weddings or rings.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
This is the next thing I was gonna say, right,
because you brought up like, yeah, I'd already had I'd achieved,
you know, a little bit of professional success when Karen
and I got married, and and we I mean, I'll
tell you, like, our wedding costs less than it basically
costs like the national average, but we're doing it in
New York City and Miami Beach costs less than a
(08:55):
third of what the average wedding would cost. Because I
don't understand, you know, in those places, because you know,
why are people spending all this money on this stuff?
I think this is crazy, the pressure you get. You know,
you shouldn't have to get Napoleon's Empress Josephine Crown jewels.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
For a lady to love you. You know what I mean?
This is come on now, No, it's totally true. Look,
I I would tell everybody out there, and I know
there's a lot of dads and moms nodding along right now,
I would. I would encourage you have way less of
a wedding, way less of a ring, and use money
to try and buy a place, like somewhere to live
(09:32):
for you. Put that into the house fund instead. I'm
gonna tell my kids this. I don't even know what
the rules are now. I've got three boys. It used
to be the dad paying. You're not paying for any wedding.
By the way, technically, I'm paying for all the weddings.
I bet that's probably. That's that's probably I'm gonna end
up paying for a lot of the weddings. But I'm
telling my boys, hey, you should. They're gonna go to
(09:54):
your new house in thirty a and be like you
know what, Uh, Clay, I'm gonna let you. Uh, I'm
the father of the bride here, but I'm I let
you pay for the wedding. Buddy. I think I think
I can see Mexico from here. Yeah, I think, yeah,
you can almost see Mexico. Get up there pretty high.
You know what I've learned, buck rooftop pool there, the
bugs don't get that high. It's a problem I didn't know,
(10:14):
Like the the bugs get in the pool when you're
down low. The higher up in the sky you go,
the bugs bugs don't fly that high. But it's something
that I've learned. There's no bugs in the pool the
high Like if you got a high level pool, there's
no bugs. It's like everything gets better. But I'm gonna
end up paying. But I'm gonna tell my kids now
I've already talked to him. Hey, weddings are great, it's
(10:35):
fun to celebrate them, but I will I would rather
help give you the money that I would spend on
the wedding to be in part of your house fund,
which actually benefits you and as a good investment, then
just throw a crazy extravagant wedding, which, by the way,
just to be fair, A lot of weddings don't last.
(10:56):
A lot of marriages don't last that long. All right, Well,
let's imagine if you were a dad and a mom
and you spend one hundred k on a wedding and
two years later your kids are getting divorced. I would
want a refund on my hundred k. I was plus
one to a I was a plus one to a
very extravagant wedding in Long Island that lasted. They were
(11:17):
married six months. So I what do you think the
wedding cost three grand? Probably so, Matt, I mean, this
is insane. Imagine that you and and not even for
the people who throw it on. I think you should
have to return the gifts and get your money back.
You only last six months. I mean, whatever wedding register
you got, like, why why should you not get your
money back on the gift too?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I'll just tell you for all that for the
guys out there, if you if you give the ring
and you get any sense or you know, you say
William Barry me, you get any sense that the ring
itself is some kind of issue, and or you hear
via the grapevine that like the ring like the answer
is a yes, but the ring is disappointing.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Don't do it, boys, you need to do it. Run
it's not good. Really, Yeah, you need to know, you
need to know. And I wonder if some of the
ladies are gonna wigh on this one. They know, they
know we've got We've got a lot of wise ladies
who listen in here, and they know that. I felt
the same way on the ring. Would you rather have
an expensive ring or a husband who is going to
(12:21):
be thinking about the long range future here and he's
trying to think of a place to buy, he wants
to start a house fund. I've said this before. I
do think it's funny for girls out there, if you
got daughters, if you got granddaughters. Knowing a guy's credit rating,
I think is almost more valuable than anything else I'm
talking about. If you're getting married to a guy who's
(12:41):
twenty eight or thirty two or thirty four, you know,
in that range, does he have a decent credit rating
where That's what I would want to know. The job matters,
but also is he capable of understanding basic finance such
that his credit rating is going to be able to
help get you a mortgage? That's what I'd want to know.
If I was a chick, be like, Okay, it's great.
You know you're six foot, you got a decent s out.
(13:03):
What's your credit reading? Clay is what we would call
a hopeless romantic, So there you go. He's like, hey, baby,
what's your credit reading? I want to know? I want
to know. Buck Sexton here in the entire Clayan Buck Show,
wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and
a joyful new year.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
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Speaker 1 (13:26):
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Michigan wants to talk about wedding stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Ken By all means sir.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Hey love listening to you guys. When my two daughters
have got married, when they we're planning their wedding, my
wife and I sat down with them and our potential
son in law and negotiated a fair, a nice but
fair wedding cost. And when we got done, I said, Okay,
you're going to get half the money up front, you
get the other half on your wedding day, and anything
(14:15):
that's left over you can keep. And boy did they
change their tune and start cutting back on costs and
they kept them balanced.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
For advice, I love this, I love this advice. I mean,
if you got rational kids that are getting married out there,
if you're the kid that is listening to us right now,
who is going to get married one day, financial issues
going to sound like an old man now, often derail
marriages more than almost anything, right, Couples fight over money.
(14:44):
There's very strong chance that you and your spouse may
have different standards of expenses or understanding of how money
should be allocated. And so starting off with something that
is a common goal, being able to build a home,
and not starting off in debt, my goodness. I just
the choices that people make. Can you imagine Bud getting
(15:05):
married and owing fifty K to help pay off your wedding.
I would I were the guys, we're here to help
you out with this not worth it? You'd have an
My actual wedding, we had twenty five people. Yeah, my
actual wedding, we had twenty five people. Basically, I think
that was the number. Carry my correct meess you would
know better than it was something like that, and we
loved it. It was perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It ever had a great time. So you know, it
was in the church, it was our families and that
was it and that was all we needed. Now, we
threw a big party. But when you're just throwing a
party without all the wedding stuff, you know, Clay, you
came to that. Yeah, that's we had one hundred and
eighty people at a party, but the expense wasn't that
much because it was it was a three hour party,
that's right. It's not the thing with weddings is you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Get into all this other stuff and it gets all
all Yeah. They play up on everybody's insecurity by saying, well,
you could choose not to do this, but most people do,
you know. And look, if you are fortunate enough to
have the money as a dad or mom and you
want to throw a big party, that's fine. You can
spend money however you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Want it exactly. Anyone who has the money to burn
We're not telling you what to do with that. I'm
just saying it's not worth it to go into debt, yes,
which people do, which is bonkers. It's not going to
debt for a vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you enjoy your vacation when you're running up
a twenty thousand dollars credit card debt on it? It's nuts,
It's nuts. And again I would echo what Buck said.
If the girl is gonna be upset about the size
of the ring, you need to run in other directions.
Not gonna get it's not gonna get better, guys, it's
not gonna get better. And by the way, maybe you
(16:32):
end up having success in life and you want to
give your wife a bigger ring somewhere down as a
testament to the success you've had together. I think that's
a cool idea.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But I have a deal with Carrie, because you know,
she quit her job to take care of Speed and
to you know, run the household. I can get her
gifts and things for Christmas, like, you know, things like
we're a little jewelry and stuff like that. But she's like, well,
if I get you a gift, isn't it just with
your money? And I'm like, yes, that's why, don't do it?
Just keep being a great wife.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And I mean it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You don't get me a Rolex. I don't need a Rolex.
I don't even want to wear a fancy watch. I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I only shop at Costco, so I don't even know
what i'd want.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're enjoying the Best Of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
We are joined now by Bill O'Reilly. You can find
him certainly all over the internet now at Bill O'Reilly
dot com. He's got regular articles there. He is a
best selling author who has got one bestseller after another.
And we were just actually talking about Whoopy. Goldberg said
(17:38):
Bill that Trump will just have no legacy whatsoever and
he will vanish on the Idiot Show, the view that
she enjoys appearing on and Bucket I both feel like
Trump is definitely the most consequential figure of the twenty
first century. And Bill, I said, I would put Trump
right now behind and only Reagan in my life as
(18:03):
the best presidents. Now, you're a little bit older than me,
but I was born in the last year of Jimmy
Carter's presidency. You're a history guy, though, Where would you
put Trump, And how do you assess Biden? Since we
know Biden's ten years over, how do you think history
views this era of those guys?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well, first of all, we have to take Whoopy Goldberg
seriously because she was in a movie called Ghost where
she could see everything that happened, So I'm sure that's
carried over to her real life. And we know she
is a PhD in history and political science, a combination
which is extraordinary, So we can't just dismiss miss Goldberg
(18:43):
out of hand. I'm being, of course deceatious. I read
a book called Confronting the President's which is right behind
Confronting Evil, which is out now. We twined them up.
By the way, we get both books on Bill O'Reilly
dot com for very fine price. Now, every time I
see President Trump, and the last time was five days
(19:05):
ago in the White House, so he's spent forty minutes
with him, he's asking me the same question that you
just asked me. So that's my legacy? Am I number one? Yet?
And you know I can't be blood He's never going
to be number one. Abraham Lincoln will always be the
best president the United States?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So hold up the president you're at the Oval office.
This is a great scene. You're in the Oval office
with the president, and the president, who trusts your historical acumen,
is saying, hey, Bill, how do you rank that? This
is very very funny. So he's asking you directly, Hey
where do I rank right now? And you told him,
I mean, I love this. You told him what exactly?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I told him that you know he's going I should
be number one. That's the same many megs. I said,
you'll never be number one, you know me. I mean,
I don't pander to anybody. I said, You're never going
to be number one because Lincoln was so extraordinary and
held the Union together when few other presidents would have
been able to do that. But you're in the top
(20:09):
ten right now, and you're the hardest working president of
all time. No president has ever approached the work ethic
of Donald Trump. And it's not even closed. There's not
even a close second to that. And I said, but
a lot of your policies are yet to be known
(20:33):
as far as their effectiveness is concerned. You got the
border in your pocket, okay, And you also have accomplishments
because you followed the second worst president in our history,
Joe Biden only James Buchanan who led up to Lincoln
and who was an abject coward and allowed the South
(20:55):
to arm itself for four years in preparation of the
War of Rebellion and began and did nothing. Knew it.
I was too afraid to do anything about it. Worst
president ever, Biden's number two. Why because in four years
Joe Biden did not solve one problem in this country,
(21:18):
not one. And all my liberal friends who voted for him,
and Kamala Harris, when I say to them very politely,
because I don't get angry about political differences, that's foolish.
When I say, all right, give me one thing that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He did, Joe, I'm sorry, Bill, I got to jump
in real quick. You're leading out that President Biden solved
Hunter's legal issues, which, to be fair, he swooped.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
In on that phone.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Okay, well, I'll debate you on that anytime you want.
But they, the people voted for him, cannot come up
with one.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, they certainly don't care that Hunter got a
parton or if they do, I think they don't like it.
But you're right.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
If it were Donald Trump, junior President trum would have
done the same thing. So I'm an honest guy. Yeah,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was kidding Hi about the pardon thing. I'm not
trying to divert you from what you're saying. He clearly
is a terrible president who didn't manage to solve much
of anything. But I also wanted to ask you, Bill
if I could the president, the current president, who you
say is excellent, not number one. He probably was a
little miffed at that, but that's okay. He's an excellent president.
He's going on a affordability tour of sorts, going to
(22:35):
eastern Pennsylvania, because I think there's a recognition even in
this White House that despite the excellent policies, there's frustration
with the economy on affordability. Do you think Trump's making
the right move here by going Do you think that
this is something that the White House can successfully address
so we don't lose the control of a House in
the midterms.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Well, on the night before Thanksgiving, I was at the
eye inder a hockey game and the puckers about to drop,
and I got a phone call from President Trump right
at the game. Now, when a president calls, so you
got to take the call. He can't go to voicemail.
All right, So I got a private office. The owner
(23:14):
of the team is a friend of mine, and President
Trump can proceed to yell at me for ten minutes,
all right, which is not unusual. All right, And when
he gets going, you can't interrupt. He's all right. Essence
of the disenchantment with O'Reilly was that I was reporting
(23:36):
that the affordability situation could very much hurt him, because
it all he has to do is go back to
twenty eighteen mid terms. He got whacked. Trump got whacked,
and Obama got whacked, and in terms of very difficult
to hold power, and the press is pounding every second affordability, affordability, affordability.
(24:03):
Now the stats are not bad for Trump, they're not.
In fact. On the New Spin News tonight, I'll lay
them all out for you. But if you have a
specific stat you want, I'll give it to you. And now,
the economy is in pretty good shape. Stock market's good
for one k people, retirement plant people, prospering. You can
(24:25):
get a job if you want. Wages are up, Bacon
is up. If you like bacon, you're paying more of
a bacon, okay, But a whole number of other foods
are down. So this is a contrived thing. With one exception.
Insurance costs are killing working Americans, killing them health insurance,
(24:51):
car insurance, house insurance. That after President Trump got through
yelling at me, I said, all right, it's my job
to report what's happening. Mister President. Of course you're not
going to like some of it, but I'm fair. This
is what you have to do. You got to get
(25:12):
out there and you've got to tell people in twenty
six here's what we're going to do to bring down
these prices very specifically. So I think he followed my advice,
but I'm sure he got that advice from other people
as well. I'm not taking credit for it. And he's
out in Pennsylvania tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
This is a little bit of a pivot. But the
last time we had you on, we had a caller
who wanted us to ask you about Patten's death and
whether you bought into and I know you wrote about
the death of Patent in your Killing series. What you
thought about is death or whether he wrote a book
He's Killing Patent, yeact, Whether what your take is on
(25:56):
that death and what occurred.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Okay, first of all, you get all the books, and
this is a shameless plug, but you guys are nice.
You can get all thirteen killing books in the two
confronting books in one package on bill O'Reilly dot com,
which will save you hundreds of dollars in Christmas gift
expenses because people want these books. Okay, so you get fifteen,
(26:24):
you dole them out. You add up the money that
you spent on that as opposed to what you would
spend on fifteen individual gifts. Your way ahead, bill O'Reilly
dot com. Killing Patten, we walked through the whole career
of the best American general in World War Two, second
best in history next to John Pershing. Pershing was the best, Okay,
(26:47):
Patton was second. At the end of his life, many
very strange things happened to George Patten. None of them
added up. He should not have died in that hospital
in Luxembourg. So a lot of people, including me, suspect
(27:10):
that he was murdered. Who would want to murder him?
Russia stalin Soviet Union, and they had access because you
remember they were our allies in World War Two. Because
Patten wanted to fight them. He did not want to stop,
because he knew that the Soviet Union was going to
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be replace Hitler in the Nazis is our main enemy.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So when you say he was killed, sorry to cut
you off, do you mean that in the poisoned in
the wake of the car accident while he was recovering.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Okay, poisoned in the hospital and the car accident itself
did not make any sense, and we trace it in
killing Pat It did not make any sense. That I'm
not a conspiracy guy. You guys know that I don't
deal with that. I am a reporter and what I
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lay out is one hundred percent accurate. The only resolution
to this is to exzoom the general's body, which is
in Europe a test. They did that for Zachary Taylor.
Zachary Taylor got that treatment, then they won't do it
for Patton.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, and do we have a caller that Clay Travis
with the Clay and Buck Show. Wishing you and your
family a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We are joined now by Bill O'Reilly. You can find
him certainly all over the internet now at Bill O'Reilly
dot com. He's got regular articles there. He is a
best selling author who has got one best seller after another. Bill.
We had a caller who called in who said, who
claimed that his father was the driver for the car
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when Patten was in that accident you mentioned. Just wanted
you to hear this. This is thirty one. You say
your dad was driving the car when Patten was killed.
When he died in the car accident, yes he was okay, Well,
what did your dad tell you about that?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
He actually died nine days later. He was driving a
thirty eight Cadillac Lemo and Patton was sitting in the
back on the edge of the seat as usual, and
they were waiting for a train to pass, and he
put in a pass. He pulled away, got up to
about twenty five miles an hour, and there was a
personnel carrier about a quarter mile down the road that
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pulled out at the same time. And when they got
to each other, the personnel carrier turned right into the
Cadillac and Patton flew forward, hit his forehead on the
partition between the front and back, scalped his you know,
put to the scalp himself and his neck.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And so from your perspective, your dad told you there
is no conspiracy. There is for people out there that
have bought not believe that this was a traffic accident,
and it was a freak accident in some way based
on the speed the patent died.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, my dad never talked about any conspiracies about it
or anything like that. But I mean, there's three drunk
ti eyes that all disappeared, you know, they were they
were in the personnel carrier, and you know, Patton's starting
to do a lot better and then he died just
all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Phil take it away. What do you make of it?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Man? I believe that his father was the driver. The
three soldiers he fighted that that is unbelievable evidence. I mean,
when you get a general, a four star dying in
this kind of circumstances, you interview everybody, and nothing was done.
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Nothing was done. Washington's heered to Patten, that would be
Harry Truman the Democratic Party, because Patten was going to
run for president. He's going to come back to the
United States and run just as Eisenhower did. And Eisenhower,
of course won, and so there were a lot of
reasons that Patten had a lot of enemies, but the
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big enemy was Stalin, and Stalin had access. So I'm
not saying that Patten was murdered because I cannot prove it.
What I am saying is that you could find out
if this general was poisoned or not, and nobody is
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apparently wants to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So that's the point about he had a turn for
the worse in the hospital. I mean, that was It's
interesting that he was. It seemed he was getting better
than all of a sudden, And so you're saying that
all of a sudden, to you is very suspicious. You'd
like to get to the bottom of it, or people
to get to the bottom of it with the testing
of Patten's remain Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
If you read killing Patten, anybody very interested in this subject,
should we really walk through it in a non hysterical way,
so we have all the eyewitness reports in there, and
you know, in my style, my style is I'm not
boring you. I am moving this story along. But I'm
(32:23):
not a guy who ordinarily buys into this stuff. But here,
you had motive, you had accessibility, you had enemies both
abroad and at home, and George is a tough guy.
He was a big, strong guy, and it just doesn't stack.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Bill, thank you for hanging out with us here. Good
Christmas gift. As you said, Bill O'Reilly dot com for
not only killing Patten, but many of the other books
in the series as well. Get the whole series.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's going to get you a great deal, Bill O'Reilly
dot com.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Well, I appreciate you having me on guys all year.
I wish you the best in the holiday season. One.
Just a footnote real quick. I know you got to
hit a break. President Trump asked me to give him
Confronting Evil, specifically for the chapter on Putin, because we
trace what has happened to Putin. He's not the same
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guy that Trump was dealing with in the first term.
And the President wrote me a really nice note after
he read to Confronting Evil. So I just want you
people to know that that is out there.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's outstanding. Thank you for the background stories. We'll talk
to you again probably after the first of the new year.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Okay, guys, you too, have fun. Thank you
Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you
and your family of very mary Christmas and a happy
New Year. Buck Sexton here, the entire Clay and Buck
Show wish you and your family a warm Christmas season
and a joyful New Year.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, by
the way, is reacting. Everybody thinks it's as crazy as
you and I do. Buck. It's an embarrassment to France
that they could steal the Crown Jewels. If somebody could
go in and steal this sounds like a Nicholas Cage
movie because it is the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution,
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I would say, yeah, we really blew it here. I
would guess that's probably the top thing that could be
stolen in America. The French Crown jewels just being stolen
is embarrassing. As part of all my reading about the
French Crown Jewels being stolen, I forgot, you know, they
stole the Mona Lisa in the early nineteen hundreds. So
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if you were France and you had had previously the
Mona Lisa stolen out of the same museum one hundred
years ago. Don't you think you would have said, hey,
let's make sure that none of our priceless artifacts ever
get stolen again. And yet France somehow allowed this to occur.
(01:37):
And to your point, Buck, it was the middle of
the day. They just pulled in a lift, They went
in through the second floor window. They were there for
I've seen different reports seven to ten minutes, which is
a really long time to be in the most secure
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museum in your country. It should be. And then they
left on motorcycles and now they have no idea where
they are. And you mentioned, you know, it's hard to
sell these, and I think that's probably true. But my
expert knowledge from the very high end television show Outer Banks,
(02:18):
one possibility would be that they just melt this down
for the jewels. But that doesn't seem like such a
good move because of the problem is historic value. You
can't you can't you can't melt the jewel. These are
diamonds and emeralds, so you're not gonna melt those down, right,
You got to keep them whole? Can you you melt diamonds?
(02:38):
I don't think you can know, well, I think you
melt the gold and then you isolate all of the
diamonds for the value. But out these diamonds and these
emeralds are going to be so big, like you're not
gonna able to go on the on the open market.
You're like, hey, I just happened to have this twenty
carried emerald that I found. Uh, you know, I I
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am simultaneously impressed by the hutzpah of the robbers because
I mean, they decided we're going to steal the French
crown jewels and they managed to do it. I would
imagine that they have been preparing for this for some time,
although the report is they dropped one of the most
valuable assets, like the one of the crowns I think
(03:25):
or something, and so it was left behind and damaged.
But I wonder, do you think this is some insanely
wealthy person who funds this, because what is the motivation
here other than embarrassing the French government, Because I can't
imagine that it pays actually that well, unless there's some
super rich billionaire who just decided he had to have
(03:48):
the Impress's the Impress's necklace. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's like you're going on Thomas Crown affair, like maybe
there's somebody out there who's just.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So bored with his life. He's like, you know what
I'm going to do. I'm going to steal the French
crown jewels out of the louver. So I don't know.
I wonder if some Middle Eastern shake.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well, that's kind of my thought, wonder wants so badly
to have the French crown jewels in his in his
safe that he would But that's I gotta run if
in high risks here if that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It's not the you know, Middle Eastern ruler. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Also, just there's more fun thing like go buy yourself
a European soccer team or something.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know what I mean, do what all the other
super rich foreign guys do. I mean the crown jewels,
I don't know what you do with them. My thought is,
if it's true that it was some Middle Eastern shake
or something that says, hey, go get the the Empress
Josephine's you know, necklace. This is kind of the Middle
Eastern shake equivalent of when Kobe bought his wife the
(04:50):
twelve million dollar ring after he got caught cheating on her.
Like one of those middle Eastern cheeks did something really bad,
and he's like, She's like, the only way I'll stay
with you is if you get me the Impress Josephine's necklace.
And he's like, all right, I guess we got to
get the Impress Josephine's necklace, right, Like, do you remember
Kobe when he got caught? Actually was I was the woman.
(05:11):
The woman accused him of raping her, yes, right of rape,
and his wife stayed with him after the rape accusation.
But they had a press conference and she showed up
with a diamond that was like a twenty Carrit's like
twenty somebody, look up how big the diamond? It was
like four carrots. Clay, I don't think it was. I
think it was like twenty carrots is like a is
(05:33):
like a football. I think she basically showed up with
a with a flashlight sized diamond. I mean, like it
blinded everyone at the press conference. They were like, why
did you decide to stay with Kobe? And she like
raised her hand and four people lost their eyesight when
they caught the reflection from the diamond. Eight It was eight.
So we kind of split the difference between us. I said, four.
(05:53):
You said twenty is eighty twenty carrot ring would be
like a baseball eight car ring is a ridiculous ring.
And this was pre all the fake diamonds, right, like
the diamond industry.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
On a second, they're not fake diamonds you're talking about necessarily,
there are such things as fake diamonds. You're talking about
lab dimonrect and I know some people in the jewel business,
and they're real diamonds. They're just made under laboratory conditions.
Oh yeah, much less expense. Basically natural diamonds and no
one's hands get chopped off in in Africa by the
(06:31):
warlords who are trying to mind them, you know, the
blood diamonds stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah. No, it's basically destroyed the diamond industry because they're
able to produce the synthetic diamonds. I think is the
technical term that instead of fake. Uh that people to
a large extent can't tell the different. It's a lab.
I believe lab dimond is synthetic is at a right
ord too. I don't know by the way, but till
that's probably accurate. But I'm just saying that they're usually
(06:54):
lab diamonds. Is how lab grown diamonds.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think I remember this from when I was buying
carry her and agement ring and people were I did
not go LAB. I probably should have gone lab because
that was I told her this the most expensive thing
I ever bought in my life ever, because I didn't
own a home, was was my wife's engagement room.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
With Well, this is also where you didn't get married
till after you already made money. See, I didn't have
any money, I don't think. By the way, Kobe's ring
was valued at four million dollars twenty years ago, so
this is probably close to a ten million dollar ring
in modern you know, the way that Biden inflation has gone.
(07:32):
I didn't have much money when I got engaged. In fact,
I think I had. I certainly had a negative next war,
a negative net worth and when I got engaged, so
it was a lot of money to meet, but it
wasn't a lot of money in the larger context. You,
on the other hand, you get married, you're already you
had to you had to produce a good ring because
you got real money. Now, so well, they do this
(07:53):
thing of three months so that salary that's great, which
is insane. But guys, all right, I'm gonna tell you said, right,
for all the game, we don't have a lot of
unmarried guys listening who are still want to get married.
We have, we have some, but you know, I think
a lot we we we specialize our audience is overwhelmingly
gonna be people who are married or have been married, right,
I think that that's true. We don't have a lot
(08:14):
of guys in their twenties and thirties in particular who
are like looking to get married. But for any of
you out there, we'll tell you a few things. Do
not go into debt for uh, for diamonds, for vacations,
or for anything that that that you know, weddings do
not go in debt for weddings or rings.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
This is the next thing I was gonna say, right,
because you brought up like, yeah, I'd already had I'd achieved,
you know, a little bit of professional success when Karen
and I got married, and and we I mean, I'll
tell you, like, our wedding costs less than it basically
costs like the national average, but we're doing it in
New York City and Miami Beach costs less than a
(08:55):
third of what the average wedding would cost. Because I
don't understand, you know, in those places, because you know,
why are people spending all this money on this stuff?
I think this is crazy, the pressure you get. You know,
you shouldn't have to get Napoleon's Empress Josephine Crown jewels.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
For a lady to love you. You know what I mean?
This is come on now, No, it's totally true. Look,
I I would tell everybody out there, and I know
there's a lot of dads and moms nodding along right now,
I would. I would encourage you have way less of
a wedding, way less of a ring, and use money
to try and buy a place, like somewhere to live
(09:32):
for you. Put that into the house fund instead. I'm
gonna tell my kids this. I don't even know what
the rules are now. I've got three boys. It used
to be the dad paying. You're not paying for any wedding.
By the way, technically, I'm paying for all the weddings.
I bet that's probably. That's that's probably I'm gonna end
up paying for a lot of the weddings. But I'm
telling my boys, hey, you should. They're gonna go to
(09:54):
your new house in thirty a and be like you
know what, Uh, Clay, I'm gonna let you. Uh, I'm
the father of the bride here, but I'm I let
you pay for the wedding. Buddy. I think I think
I can see Mexico from here. Yeah, I think, yeah,
you can almost see Mexico. Get up there pretty high.
You know what I've learned, buck rooftop pool there, the
bugs don't get that high. It's a problem I didn't know,
(10:14):
Like the the bugs get in the pool when you're
down low. The higher up in the sky you go,
the bugs bugs don't fly that high. But it's something
that I've learned. There's no bugs in the pool the
high Like if you got a high level pool, there's
no bugs. It's like everything gets better. But I'm gonna
end up paying. But I'm gonna tell my kids now
I've already talked to him. Hey, weddings are great, it's
(10:35):
fun to celebrate them, but I will I would rather
help give you the money that I would spend on
the wedding to be in part of your house fund,
which actually benefits you and as a good investment, then
just throw a crazy extravagant wedding, which, by the way,
just to be fair, A lot of weddings don't last.
(10:56):
A lot of marriages don't last that long. All right, Well,
let's imagine if you were a dad and a mom
and you spend one hundred k on a wedding and
two years later your kids are getting divorced. I would
want a refund on my hundred k. I was plus
one to a I was a plus one to a
very extravagant wedding in Long Island that lasted. They were
(11:17):
married six months. So I what do you think the
wedding cost three grand? Probably so, Matt, I mean, this
is insane. Imagine that you and and not even for
the people who throw it on. I think you should
have to return the gifts and get your money back.
You only last six months. I mean, whatever wedding register
you got, like, why why should you not get your
money back on the gift too?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I'll just tell you for all that for the
guys out there, if you if you give the ring
and you get any sense or you know, you say
William Barry me, you get any sense that the ring
itself is some kind of issue, and or you hear
via the grapevine that like the ring like the answer
is a yes, but the ring is disappointing.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Don't do it, boys, you need to do it. Run
it's not good. Really, Yeah, you need to know, you
need to know. And I wonder if some of the
ladies are gonna wigh on this one. They know, they
know we've got We've got a lot of wise ladies
who listen in here, and they know that. I felt
the same way on the ring. Would you rather have
an expensive ring or a husband who is going to
(12:21):
be thinking about the long range future here and he's
trying to think of a place to buy, he wants
to start a house fund. I've said this before. I
do think it's funny for girls out there, if you
got daughters, if you got granddaughters. Knowing a guy's credit rating,
I think is almost more valuable than anything else I'm
talking about. If you're getting married to a guy who's
(12:41):
twenty eight or thirty two or thirty four, you know,
in that range, does he have a decent credit rating
where That's what I would want to know. The job matters,
but also is he capable of understanding basic finance such
that his credit rating is going to be able to
help get you a mortgage? That's what I'd want to know.
If I was a chick, be like, Okay, it's great.
You know you're six foot, you got a decent s out.
(13:03):
What's your credit reading? Clay is what we would call
a hopeless romantic, So there you go. He's like, hey, baby,
what's your credit reading? I want to know? I want
to know. Buck Sexton here in the entire Clayan Buck Show,
wish you and your family a warm Christmas season and
a joyful new year.
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Michigan wants to talk about wedding stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Ken By all means sir.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Hey love listening to you guys. When my two daughters
have got married, when they we're planning their wedding, my
wife and I sat down with them and our potential
son in law and negotiated a fair, a nice but
fair wedding cost. And when we got done, I said, Okay,
you're going to get half the money up front, you
get the other half on your wedding day, and anything
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that's left over you can keep. And boy did they
change their tune and start cutting back on costs and
they kept them balanced.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
For advice, I love this, I love this advice. I mean,
if you got rational kids that are getting married out there,
if you're the kid that is listening to us right now,
who is going to get married one day, financial issues
going to sound like an old man now, often derail
marriages more than almost anything, right, Couples fight over money.
(14:44):
There's very strong chance that you and your spouse may
have different standards of expenses or understanding of how money
should be allocated. And so starting off with something that
is a common goal, being able to build a home,
and not starting off in debt, my goodness. I just
the choices that people make. Can you imagine Bud getting
(15:05):
married and owing fifty K to help pay off your wedding.
I would I were the guys, we're here to help
you out with this not worth it? You'd have an
My actual wedding, we had twenty five people. Yeah, my
actual wedding, we had twenty five people. Basically, I think
that was the number. Carry my correct meess you would
know better than it was something like that, and we
loved it. It was perfect.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It ever had a great time. So you know, it
was in the church, it was our families and that
was it and that was all we needed. Now, we
threw a big party. But when you're just throwing a
party without all the wedding stuff, you know, Clay, you
came to that. Yeah, that's we had one hundred and
eighty people at a party, but the expense wasn't that
much because it was it was a three hour party,
that's right. It's not the thing with weddings is you.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Get into all this other stuff and it gets all
all Yeah. They play up on everybody's insecurity by saying, well,
you could choose not to do this, but most people do,
you know. And look, if you are fortunate enough to
have the money as a dad or mom and you
want to throw a big party, that's fine. You can
spend money however you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Want it exactly. Anyone who has the money to burn
We're not telling you what to do with that. I'm
just saying it's not worth it to go into debt, yes,
which people do, which is bonkers. It's not going to
debt for a vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you enjoy your vacation when you're running up
a twenty thousand dollars credit card debt on it? It's nuts,
It's nuts. And again I would echo what Buck said.
If the girl is gonna be upset about the size
of the ring, you need to run in other directions.
Not gonna get it's not gonna get better, guys, it's
not gonna get better. And by the way, maybe you
(16:32):
end up having success in life and you want to
give your wife a bigger ring somewhere down as a
testament to the success you've had together. I think that's
a cool idea.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But I have a deal with Carrie, because you know,
she quit her job to take care of Speed and
to you know, run the household. I can get her
gifts and things for Christmas, like, you know, things like
we're a little jewelry and stuff like that. But she's like, well,
if I get you a gift, isn't it just with
your money? And I'm like, yes, that's why, don't do it?
Just keep being a great wife.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And I mean it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You don't get me a Rolex. I don't need a Rolex.
I don't even want to wear a fancy watch. I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I only shop at Costco, so I don't even know
what i'd want.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're enjoying the Best Of program with Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
We are joined now by Bill O'Reilly. You can find
him certainly all over the internet now at Bill O'Reilly
dot com. He's got regular articles there. He is a
best selling author who has got one bestseller after another.
And we were just actually talking about Whoopy. Goldberg said
(17:38):
Bill that Trump will just have no legacy whatsoever and
he will vanish on the Idiot Show, the view that
she enjoys appearing on and Bucket I both feel like
Trump is definitely the most consequential figure of the twenty
first century. And Bill, I said, I would put Trump
right now behind and only Reagan in my life as
(18:03):
the best presidents. Now, you're a little bit older than me,
but I was born in the last year of Jimmy
Carter's presidency. You're a history guy, though, Where would you
put Trump, And how do you assess Biden? Since we
know Biden's ten years over, how do you think history
views this era of those guys?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well, first of all, we have to take Whoopy Goldberg
seriously because she was in a movie called Ghost where
she could see everything that happened, So I'm sure that's
carried over to her real life. And we know she
is a PhD in history and political science, a combination
which is extraordinary, So we can't just dismiss miss Goldberg
(18:43):
out of hand. I'm being, of course deceatious. I read
a book called Confronting the President's which is right behind
Confronting Evil, which is out now. We twined them up.
By the way, we get both books on Bill O'Reilly
dot com for very fine price. Now, every time I
see President Trump, and the last time was five days
(19:05):
ago in the White House, so he's spent forty minutes
with him, he's asking me the same question that you
just asked me. So that's my legacy? Am I number one? Yet?
And you know I can't be blood He's never going
to be number one. Abraham Lincoln will always be the
best president the United States?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So hold up the president you're at the Oval office.
This is a great scene. You're in the Oval office
with the president, and the president, who trusts your historical acumen,
is saying, hey, Bill, how do you rank that? This
is very very funny. So he's asking you directly, Hey
where do I rank right now? And you told him,
I mean, I love this. You told him what exactly?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I told him that you know he's going I should
be number one. That's the same many megs. I said,
you'll never be number one, you know me. I mean,
I don't pander to anybody. I said, You're never going
to be number one because Lincoln was so extraordinary and
held the Union together when few other presidents would have
been able to do that. But you're in the top
(20:09):
ten right now, and you're the hardest working president of
all time. No president has ever approached the work ethic
of Donald Trump. And it's not even closed. There's not
even a close second to that. And I said, but
a lot of your policies are yet to be known
(20:33):
as far as their effectiveness is concerned. You got the
border in your pocket, okay, And you also have accomplishments
because you followed the second worst president in our history,
Joe Biden only James Buchanan who led up to Lincoln
and who was an abject coward and allowed the South
(20:55):
to arm itself for four years in preparation of the
War of Rebellion and began and did nothing. Knew it.
I was too afraid to do anything about it. Worst
president ever, Biden's number two. Why because in four years
Joe Biden did not solve one problem in this country,
(21:18):
not one. And all my liberal friends who voted for him,
and Kamala Harris, when I say to them very politely,
because I don't get angry about political differences, that's foolish.
When I say, all right, give me one thing that.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He did, Joe, I'm sorry, Bill, I got to jump
in real quick. You're leading out that President Biden solved
Hunter's legal issues, which, to be fair, he swooped.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
In on that phone.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Okay, well, I'll debate you on that anytime you want.
But they, the people voted for him, cannot come up
with one.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Well, they certainly don't care that Hunter got a
parton or if they do, I think they don't like it.
But you're right.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
If it were Donald Trump, junior President trum would have
done the same thing. So I'm an honest guy. Yeah,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was kidding Hi about the pardon thing. I'm not
trying to divert you from what you're saying. He clearly
is a terrible president who didn't manage to solve much
of anything. But I also wanted to ask you, Bill
if I could the president, the current president, who you
say is excellent, not number one. He probably was a
little miffed at that, but that's okay. He's an excellent president.
He's going on a affordability tour of sorts, going to
(22:35):
eastern Pennsylvania, because I think there's a recognition even in
this White House that despite the excellent policies, there's frustration
with the economy on affordability. Do you think Trump's making
the right move here by going Do you think that
this is something that the White House can successfully address
so we don't lose the control of a House in
the midterms.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Well, on the night before Thanksgiving, I was at the
eye inder a hockey game and the puckers about to drop,
and I got a phone call from President Trump right
at the game. Now, when a president calls, so you
got to take the call. He can't go to voicemail.
All right, So I got a private office. The owner
(23:14):
of the team is a friend of mine, and President
Trump can proceed to yell at me for ten minutes,
all right, which is not unusual. All right, And when
he gets going, you can't interrupt. He's all right. Essence
of the disenchantment with O'Reilly was that I was reporting
(23:36):
that the affordability situation could very much hurt him, because
it all he has to do is go back to
twenty eighteen mid terms. He got whacked. Trump got whacked,
and Obama got whacked, and in terms of very difficult
to hold power, and the press is pounding every second affordability, affordability, affordability.
(24:03):
Now the stats are not bad for Trump, they're not.
In fact. On the New Spin News tonight, I'll lay
them all out for you. But if you have a
specific stat you want, I'll give it to you. And now,
the economy is in pretty good shape. Stock market's good
for one k people, retirement plant people, prospering. You can
(24:25):
get a job if you want. Wages are up, Bacon
is up. If you like bacon, you're paying more of
a bacon, okay, But a whole number of other foods
are down. So this is a contrived thing. With one exception.
Insurance costs are killing working Americans, killing them health insurance,
(24:51):
car insurance, house insurance. That after President Trump got through
yelling at me, I said, all right, it's my job
to report what's happening. Mister President. Of course you're not
going to like some of it, but I'm fair. This
is what you have to do. You got to get
(25:12):
out there and you've got to tell people in twenty
six here's what we're going to do to bring down
these prices very specifically. So I think he followed my advice,
but I'm sure he got that advice from other people
as well. I'm not taking credit for it. And he's
out in Pennsylvania tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
This is a little bit of a pivot. But the
last time we had you on, we had a caller
who wanted us to ask you about Patten's death and
whether you bought into and I know you wrote about
the death of Patent in your Killing series. What you
thought about is death or whether he wrote a book
He's Killing Patent, yeact, Whether what your take is on
(25:56):
that death and what occurred.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Okay, first of all, you get all the books, and
this is a shameless plug, but you guys are nice.
You can get all thirteen killing books in the two
confronting books in one package on bill O'Reilly dot com,
which will save you hundreds of dollars in Christmas gift
expenses because people want these books. Okay, so you get fifteen,
(26:24):
you dole them out. You add up the money that
you spent on that as opposed to what you would
spend on fifteen individual gifts. Your way ahead, bill O'Reilly
dot com. Killing Patten, we walked through the whole career
of the best American general in World War Two, second
best in history next to John Pershing. Pershing was the best, Okay,
(26:47):
Patton was second. At the end of his life, many
very strange things happened to George Patten. None of them
added up. He should not have died in that hospital
in Luxembourg. So a lot of people, including me, suspect
(27:10):
that he was murdered. Who would want to murder him?
Russia stalin Soviet Union, and they had access because you
remember they were our allies in World War Two. Because
Patten wanted to fight them. He did not want to stop,
because he knew that the Soviet Union was going to
(27:31):
be replace Hitler in the Nazis is our main enemy.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
So when you say he was killed, sorry to cut
you off, do you mean that in the poisoned in
the wake of the car accident while he was recovering.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Okay, poisoned in the hospital and the car accident itself
did not make any sense, and we trace it in
killing Pat It did not make any sense. That I'm
not a conspiracy guy. You guys know that I don't
deal with that. I am a reporter and what I
(28:08):
lay out is one hundred percent accurate. The only resolution
to this is to exzoom the general's body, which is
in Europe a test. They did that for Zachary Taylor.
Zachary Taylor got that treatment, then they won't do it
for Patton.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, and do we have a caller that Clay Travis
with the Clay and Buck Show. Wishing you and your
family a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We are joined now by Bill O'Reilly. You can find
him certainly all over the internet now at Bill O'Reilly
dot com. He's got regular articles there. He is a
best selling author who has got one best seller after another. Bill.
We had a caller who called in who said, who
claimed that his father was the driver for the car
(29:08):
when Patten was in that accident you mentioned. Just wanted
you to hear this. This is thirty one. You say
your dad was driving the car when Patten was killed.
When he died in the car accident, yes he was okay, Well,
what did your dad tell you about that?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
He actually died nine days later. He was driving a
thirty eight Cadillac Lemo and Patton was sitting in the
back on the edge of the seat as usual, and
they were waiting for a train to pass, and he
put in a pass. He pulled away, got up to
about twenty five miles an hour, and there was a
personnel carrier about a quarter mile down the road that
(29:43):
pulled out at the same time. And when they got
to each other, the personnel carrier turned right into the
Cadillac and Patton flew forward, hit his forehead on the
partition between the front and back, scalped his you know,
put to the scalp himself and his neck.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And so from your perspective, your dad told you there
is no conspiracy. There is for people out there that
have bought not believe that this was a traffic accident,
and it was a freak accident in some way based
on the speed the patent died.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Yeah, my dad never talked about any conspiracies about it
or anything like that. But I mean, there's three drunk
ti eyes that all disappeared, you know, they were they
were in the personnel carrier, and you know, Patton's starting
to do a lot better and then he died just
all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Phil take it away. What do you make of it?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Man? I believe that his father was the driver. The
three soldiers he fighted that that is unbelievable evidence. I mean,
when you get a general, a four star dying in
this kind of circumstances, you interview everybody, and nothing was done.
(30:59):
Nothing was done. Washington's heered to Patten, that would be
Harry Truman the Democratic Party, because Patten was going to
run for president. He's going to come back to the
United States and run just as Eisenhower did. And Eisenhower,
of course won, and so there were a lot of
reasons that Patten had a lot of enemies, but the
(31:19):
big enemy was Stalin, and Stalin had access. So I'm
not saying that Patten was murdered because I cannot prove it.
What I am saying is that you could find out
if this general was poisoned or not, and nobody is
(31:41):
apparently wants to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So that's the point about he had a turn for
the worse in the hospital. I mean, that was It's
interesting that he was. It seemed he was getting better
than all of a sudden, And so you're saying that
all of a sudden, to you is very suspicious. You'd
like to get to the bottom of it, or people
to get to the bottom of it with the testing
of Patten's remain Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
If you read killing Patten, anybody very interested in this subject,
should we really walk through it in a non hysterical way,
so we have all the eyewitness reports in there, and
you know, in my style, my style is I'm not
boring you. I am moving this story along. But I'm
(32:23):
not a guy who ordinarily buys into this stuff. But here,
you had motive, you had accessibility, you had enemies both
abroad and at home, and George is a tough guy.
He was a big, strong guy, and it just doesn't stack.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Bill, thank you for hanging out with us here. Good
Christmas gift. As you said, Bill O'Reilly dot com for
not only killing Patten, but many of the other books
in the series as well. Get the whole series.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
He's going to get you a great deal, Bill O'Reilly
dot com.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Well, I appreciate you having me on guys all year.
I wish you the best in the holiday season. One.
Just a footnote real quick. I know you got to
hit a break. President Trump asked me to give him
Confronting Evil, specifically for the chapter on Putin, because we
trace what has happened to Putin. He's not the same
(33:23):
guy that Trump was dealing with in the first term.
And the President wrote me a really nice note after
he read to Confronting Evil. So I just want you
people to know that that is out there.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's outstanding. Thank you for the background stories. We'll talk
to you again probably after the first of the new year.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Okay, guys, you too, have fun. Thank you
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