October 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show zeroes in on the escalating political drama in New York City’s mayoral race, featuring progressive candidate Mamdani and his radical proposals. Clay and Buck dissect the recent rally headlined by AOC, who passionately declared, “We are not the crazy ones,” as she defended far-left policies like rent freezes. The hosts explain why freezing rent is economically destructive, citing basic supply-and-demand principles and drawing parallels to Venezuela’s collapse under price controls. They argue that these socialist-style policies will worsen housing shortages and degrade property quality in NYC.
The conversation pivots to a revealing Democratic Party study, reported by Semaphore, showing that left-wing rhetoric has severely damaged the party’s brand. Clay and Buck highlight key findings: 70% of voters believe Democrats are out of touch, prioritizing issues like climate change and LGBTQ+ rights over crime reduction and border security. They note dramatic increases in progressive language—mentions of “environmental justice” up 333% and LGBTQ+ rights up over 1,000%—while traditional values like fatherhood and responsibility have plummeted in party messaging.
From politics to culture, the hosts tackle the erasure of strong father figures in modern media, contrasting today’s portrayals with iconic dads from the ’80s and ’90s like those in The Cosby Show and Family Matters. They argue that while real-life dads are more involved than ever, pop culture increasingly depicts men as absent or incompetent, fueling societal imbalance.
The hour also dives into Democratic leadership speculation. Clay and Buck analyze Kamala Harris’s BBC interview, where she hinted at a 2028 presidential run despite dismal betting odds—ranking behind celebrities like Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson. They review current odds showing Gavin Newsom as the frontrunner, followed by AOC, Harris, Pete Buttigieg, and Wes Moore. This sparks a humorous sidebar on AOC’s engagement to Riley Roberts, long engagements, and even prenup debates, with Buck sharing insights from a viral divorce attorney who argues everyone should consider prenups.
Hour 2 closes with a preview of Gavin Newsom’s controversial claims about growing up poor, which Clay and Buck promise to unpack in Hour 3, and a lighthearted call from Mobile, Alabama about sports agent Jimmy Sexton. Packed with sharp political analysis, cultural commentary, and candid relationship advice, this hour blends serious insights with Clay and Buck’s trademark humor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,
we are eight days away from the official election day
in New Jersey, in Virginia, and in New York City,
and we are discussing the crazy rally that took place
in New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Surrounding Mom, Donnie, Kathy Hokel.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now we got Hikeem Jeffries endorsing Mom, Donnie, and I
want to play this one. This is AOC, AOC saying
we're not crazy. They want us to think we're crazy.
This is cut five, AOC screaming at everyone while she
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jumps around.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Listen, we must remember.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In a time such as this, we are not the
crazy ones New York City. We are not the outlandish
ones New York City. They want us to think we
are crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are saying, yes, yes, you are all very sane.
Let's talk about some of these things, Buck that I
do worry because some arguments are so dumb that I
don't understand how a major political party can make them.
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And let me take a step back and say, some
things you and I disagree with in policy perspectives, but
you can make a reasonable argument that you or I
or wrong, or that some of you out there, right
or wrong. There's lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives.
Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could
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do if you believe you have major issues with rent
in the city. The thing I mean, this is just
basic economics. And I know a lot of you get this,
but maybe your kids don't, maybe your grandkids don't, And
you have to succinctly kind of explain why this is
a lunatic idea. Here is just a simple argument. It's
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all supply and demand. Everything in life is supply and demand.
If you want rent to come down, then you have
to build more apartments and or kick illegals that are
using these apartments out. This is very basic. It is
the essence of economics itself. The only way to drive
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down cost is to increase the supply of a good
by and large, and yet they are simultaneously making it
very hard to construct new housing and telling the people
who do own the housing, we're gonna restrict what you
can charge, which means means the cost is going to
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continue to go up for those who own these rental properties.
The maintenance costs are going to continue to go up.
Inflation is not stopping for them, which means their profit
margin is going to go down, which means the quality
of the rental property will either decline or unfortunately, some
of these properties will just be taken off the market
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because the landlord will throw up their hands and say,
I'm losing money by renting this property out.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If they have the ability to.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Do so, they'll just pull it off the market, which
will mean that rents are continuing to increase overall because
the supply is declining. What. I don't even understand the
argument that a rational human being could make that freeze
the rent is in any way beneficial for people, even
if you believe that rental costs are too high. I mean,
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you lived in New York City. I see what people
have to pay for homes in New York City to rent.
Just we have to build way more homes. I mean,
I don't understand how this is not the ultimate solution. Okay,
So there's a few things here for everyone I think
to consider. One is, and this was even higher than
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I thought it was. If you were to just take
a quick look at what the cost of new multifamily
is in this country nationwide on average, and how much
of that is taxes regulations, fees, meaning not just oh,
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I want to hire people and get stuff to make
a home, and you know by land, hire a construction crew,
have them make it and sell it, but all the
other things. Estimate that I just found online just with
a quick search clay is forty percent. Forty percent of
the cost. I tried to find a specific New York
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City cost, and all they can really is that it,
whatever it is, it's higher than forty percent. And there
are reasons for that. There are reasons for this one thing.
By the way, in New York City, building codes alone,
building codes are eleven percent of the cost. Inclusionary zoning
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mandates are seven percent of the cost. You know, you
go through these things, you say, well, hold on a second.
And another one is again talking multifamily here, right, because
that's the only way you got to build up in
New York for it to be worth worthwhile in New
York City it's very hard of you know, you're not
building like a you know, on two acres, a single
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family home unless you're going to sell it for twenty
million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you
look at this, and you find out that also the
fact that New York city, labor costs are so high,
and that there's all these union mandates for labor, and
you have all these things, and these are the reasons
that there's not more housing supply, and the idea of
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freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody,
you could look at a lot of things that ruin
the economy. I mean, Venezuela is now a failed state.
Maybe it's gonna get a new regime soon, it's a
failed state. It's a narco traffick or state. And we
don't even hear about the economy anymore one because I
think it's so hard to get real numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But it's been completely destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro
destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls because people who
are hurting and who don't have very much here. Hey,
these guys are going to use government force to say
that the cost of this washing machine isn't three hundred dollars,
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it's one hundred dollars and that sounds great, right, Oh
my gosh, Now my watch they mandate and only the
fat catch are going to pay.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know what happens, Clay, No one can buy a
washing machine anymore. No one can.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Actually, they their shelves are empty, right. This is what
is going on in the New York City housing market
rid large, and yet Mamdani is about to become mayor
thinking that this stuff is the answer.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It is so destructive, it is so.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Damaging, and it's essentially a repudiation of the free market
replaced with social justice. It's common nonsense. This is also
why the Democrat Party's overall brand is collapsing. As we
were talking Buck, the media company Semaphore posted a new
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story that I thought was pretty interesting. This is a
Democrats study, Why are they so rotten? What is the
takeaway here? And the headline is left wing ideas have
wrecked Democrats. Brand new report warns, and this is the
Democrat Party's own study. Democrats have badly weaken their party
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with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only. I bet
this ties in with your no Kings protest with self
described white liberals while losing ground with other voters. According
to a center left group's report shared first with Semaphore,
the group, which is called Welcome, consulted hundreds of thousands
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of voters over six months for a broad finding, including
seventy percent. Seventy percent of voters think the Democrat Party
is quote out of touch. Most voters the group found
believe the party overprioritizes issues like protecting the rights of
LGBTQ plus Americans, fighting climate change while not caring about
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securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. And
as a result, they say that they have completely misjudged
the audience as a whole, and that I mean, I
think they're right on this, Buck. The reason they're losing
elections is not because voters aren't hearing their message. It's
(09:10):
because voters are hearing their message and they are profoundly
rejecting it. And the data in here is really just
kind of very fascinating to see. And for instance, they
talk about racial groups eight hundred and twenty eight percent
more in the Democrat Party now, Buck, compared to in
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twenty twelve. Think about some of this stuff. They talk
about environmental justice three hundred and thirty three percent more,
they talk about LGBTQ rights one thousand and forty four
percent more, And mentions of men and fathers have fallen
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in the Democrat Party platform by sixty three percent one
hundred percent on fathers and responsibility. The word responsibility has
collapsed by eighty three percent. This probably doesn't stun you,
and it probably doesn't shock a lot of our audience,
(10:15):
but it is interesting that Democrats are now recognizing how
toxic their own messaging has become. One thing I thought
about over the weekend. This isn't a side. It's like
I'm doing a soliloquy on the radio. Here is how
rare it is for there to be in any kind
of entertainment. You know, Carrie went to sleep, and so
when she goes to bed before me, I watch anything
(10:37):
that I know she hates, like sci fi. So I
tried out the Halo Show on Netflix because I know
the video game. You know, it's okay, But I was
thinking about this because you know, the guy, the lead guys,
you know, a badass and.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The whole thing.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I thought, you know what, how many shows are there
that show but you don't know anything about this guy's
family anything, But how many shows are there where the
dad is actually somebody I've been preaching this as a
dad that you're like, that's a you know, the closest
thing I can think of would be years ago. I mean,
I think coach Eric Taylor in Friday Night Lights was
like it was a really solid dad, you know, masculine,
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good at his job, take care of his family.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, he was a solid dad.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think that was one of the kind of subtle
but strong appeals of that show. Now he does move
in the end because his wife's career forces him to.
Sorry spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I feel like he's you know, he's a solid dad.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There's so many things out there in entertainment where the
dad is like this is like this bumbling buffoon, or
the dad is an absentee. Well, it depends. You have
a lot of a lot of divorce and absentee dads.
If the dad is white. In media, you see a
lot of that, and in media that's that's the depiction
of it. And you sit there and you say to yourself,
(11:52):
this doesn't have to be this way back to the
demographics though, because you open the door to this and
now I'm going back on track here with you, Clay,
but yeah, just someone let me know if there is
a great show where there's a dad that you're like,
this is a this is a dad that American men
should look up to, or I opened I opened or
one of our hours that you were out on this
(12:12):
exact thing. There's a clip up I think on YouTube
you're hitting on something I think independent because I think.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You were out.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We have effectively written I'm not no you. We have
effectively and I argue about this in the new book
that I've got, We've effectively written men out of pop
culture dads. You have extremely powerful moms, moms that do
a great job, like it's the foundation, I would argue,
But it's not just that we've written them out now, Buck,
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It's that it's a repudiation of everything we grew up.
They also have moms that are kind of pretending to
be dad's, which is a whole other that's a whole totally.
I mean, you're trying to fill both both roles. But
I mean, and it's a repudiation of the era in
which we grew up. When and yet I'm not saying
that Bill Cosby. I'm talking about the show, uh, the
Osby show, Growing Pains a full House where they wrote
(13:05):
the moms out like you run through most of eighties
and nineties of Fresh Prince of bel Air, family matters,
white and black dads that were incredibly prominent the dads, Taylor, Yeah,
the dads were real dads who commanded respect. We've completely
I didn't know you were talking about this, but this
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is something that I really think about because if I'm
going through shows that I'm gonna watch, I don't consume
a lot of pop culture. When I do, it's just
all these dads. And it's it's weird too, because I
know so many I know dads who are you know,
fantastic providers, fantastic husbands. You know, they're trying to be
in great shape and be strong, and you know they're
they're they got cool hobbies and they want to teach
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their boys and they're taking them hunting or they're taking
them fishing. You know, I know dads like that, and
yet I see no dads like that in the media.
So I know they exist in the wild because I
have friends who are like that. Meanwhile, file no depictions whatsoever.
You can even argue, because I know we got to
go to break buck if this is something I'm fired
up about. You can even argue that dads today are
(14:08):
more involved with their kids than dads in the sixties, seventies,
eighties were when it was much more of a mom's
at home and dad is always out of the house.
I would argue to your point, there are probably more
father figures very involved in raising their kids today than
there were when you and I grew up, and yet
they are completely without representation in modern pop culture. Well,
(14:35):
who is the or what is the most over represented
demographic that the No Kings protest. I'll throw this out
there and then we'll get into it. Some more middle
aged white women. Everybody, middle aged white women. I would
have bet a lot of money that was the answer. Yep,
and that is what the data shows. We will come
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Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, welcome back in here. To Clay and Buck
got a pretty quick turnaround. So let's just set this up.
Let's get into this now. The populist left is on
the move. You've got a whole bunch of major figures
of the Democrat socialist side of things coming forward for
this guy, Mom, Donnie, and it's indicative I think of
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what you're going to see a lot more of which
is Democrats who on the in the Purple States, they're
gonna be pretending that they're not like this, and in
places like New York where they have a total political monoculture.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
The left is ascendant within the.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Democrat Party after this election, Clay, someone might have thought
you could have made the assessment. I don't think we did,
but one could have made the assessment. Oh, the Democrats
are gonna have to moderate now. The Democrats are gonna
have to I mean, things are getting so crazy that
Kamala Harris is even leaving open the possibility of running
again in the next election cycle in her most recent interview,
(17:34):
which was very bothersome, I must say, because that's a
very expensive thing for me. If she does run, she's.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Gonna run, You're gonna have to buy me another steak.
We come back.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
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Speaker 2 (18:52):
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Buck just mentioned that he keeps losing stakes to me,
and you know this that just what I do.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Just rack up steak, bet Wins.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I was kicking back over the weekend, just thinking about
what exact cut of fabulous steak I might be most
interested in for a nice winter getaway down to the
warm environs of Miami Beach and i'bby Damned if my
good friend Kamala Harris didn't travel over the pond and
decided to sit down for a BBC interview about her
(19:26):
magisterial work one hundred and seven Days, reviewed here by
our esteemed co host here Buck Sexton, and Kamala Harris
said she's been so impressed at how much Buck liked
her book, and she has decided that she maybe should
go ahead and run for president again.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Cut eight your.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Baby nieces, Amara and Leela, when are they going to
see a woman in charge in the wayhouse in their lifetime?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
For sure? Could it be you? Possibly?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Have you made a decision yet? No?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I have not.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You say in your book, I'm not done.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I am not done.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Service, and it's in my bones, and there are many.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Ways to serve. I've not decided yet what I will
do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experienced
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookie's odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that
underestimating you.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I've never listened to polls.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
If I listen to polls, I would have not run
for my first office or my second office, and I
certainly wouldn't be sitting here in this interview.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, Bob behind and hold on a second stake
man behind Dwayne the run for any office the Rock Johnson. Okay,
So before you start sharpening your steak knife, sir, for
what won't be determined for at least another year and
a half, let's just be clear. She should her numbers
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now should be the best. They're the best they're likely
to be because the more people think about what a
disaster she was. As she gears up to run again,
I think the worst it gets for her, Clay, she
is behind Random. She was the vice president for four
years and she is now according to you like the poll,
I mean the betting sites. According to betting sites, Random
(21:38):
celebrity movie stars are more likely to run and be
the nominee than Kamala Harris. I don't know exactly which
site she was. This British interviewer for the BBC was
sighting and I wanted to look them up, and I
will in fact look them up while we are talking.
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She's gonna run, and I just come back to she
has nothing else. And I know we've joked about they
wouldn't even let her be the president of UCLA or
the chancellor or whatever it's called of UCLA or of
cal Berkeley. But I don't think there's any doubt she
might be able to get UCSB. It's a great spot.
(22:21):
Nothing against UCSB, but she needs this because there is
nothing else.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
She has nothing else. She's sitting around, she's bored. Uh,
she has no uh.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
In fact, other things going on here is what the
latest odds are so this is the US Gavin Newsom,
and will play some Gavin Newsom cuts for you next
hour because he is in a legenist liar the likes
of which I'm not ole agonus, So you going only
agnus only agnis pronunciation, I believe too. I'm not great
(22:58):
at pronouncing words. I read way more than I listen,
so this has to happen to you all the time.
To Buck, I know words, and I can spell them,
and I can use them in written context, but a
lot of times I've never heard them actually used. And
so some of them I love, just the way that
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one flows. Ole agonus, Oh, such a great word, but
I don't know how to pronounce it. He is unctuous.
I think I got that one right. That's a very
good one. That's a fun word.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know who's really captain unctious?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's really such what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's where he is the movie unctuous of the political class.
He is the favorite right now, Buck, right now thirty
four percent chance that Gavin Newsom, according to the gambling markets,
is the next Democrat nominee, followed by we just played
the cut. We're not crazy they want you to think
that we're crazy, which sounds like a lot of twenty
(23:55):
five year old girlfriends you guys might have had at
some point in your life.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You are the crazy one.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm not crazy, You're you're crazy. Uh, AOC eleven percent.
I'm just gonna tell you something. If how many girls
by the way, you just gonna jump in. I gotta
help the single guys. There's not a lot of you
out there listening, but there are some the single guys
out there. If your girlfriend ever says to you, I'm
not crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You probably need to find a new girlfriend.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I'm just telling you. If she feels they need to
tell you she's not crazy, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
One of the first signs that she is in fact crazy,
which is when I saw that clip of AOC saying,
they want you to think that we're crazy, but we're
not crazy. No, you're actually crazy. What is the AOC
boyfriend she married?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right, didn't she marry a ginger white guy, ginger white
guy husband she's married?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think right.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know if they're married. I think they're married.
I think she married a ginger, ginger white guy. Good
for him. Uh, and uh, because I I remember the
photos and everything else.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Poor guy. Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yamala Harris third place right now, she's tied with Mayor
Pete and your boy Wes Moore. Uh. And then John
Assoff who is running for reelection as a Senator from Georgia,
Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Witmer, Andy Basheer. That is roughly the
top ten. Oh my bad. She has not married the Ginger.
(25:23):
They are just engaged. Producer ally says, what are the chances?
What are the chances that he takes her last name?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Hi, I'm just throwing that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
What is what is this guy? Do we know the
do we know the fiance's name? Can I get research
on it? I'm just trying to His last name is Roberts.
What do we know his first name?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So with that, then would he then be Roberts Ocasio Cortes.
Would we go three triple name triple name Biden's his
first name is Riley. If I were going to pick
a Democrat that would be engaged to AOC, Riley would
be one of the top names.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I would go with.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Riley Roberts, Riley Roberts, Occasio Cortes. I mean, I wish him. Well,
I read a story about this buck. You were saying,
if a woman says I'm not crazy, you know, running
the other direction, she's probably crazy. Some men are taking
women's last names now. I think I would disown my sons.
(26:26):
I mean, I have three boys. I think if one
of them came to me and said, Dad, I am
getting married and I am taking my new wive's name.
Last name is my own, I would certainly not pay
for the wedding, and I might take him out of
the will.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean that's some of you out there.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Might say, which would actually be meaningful for the Travis boys.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm just saying Travis boys. I mean, I mean I
got three boys. They want the they want that, you
know that I'll kick money. They don't want to get
cut out of the will. That would be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
If one of them came to me and said, Dad,
I'm so excited, I mean gay. I said congratulations, and
then they said, and Dad, I have decided that I'm
going to give up our name. I'm going to give
up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's name instead.
I would say you're out of the will. But this
Riley guy, I bet Riley's gonna do it. I bet
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he's gonna be Okaz Tortes. I back, I back you
on on your assessment of that entirely and little speed,
Jimmy speed. Same same rule is gonna apply. I can't
take the woman's name, is it? But that that's that's
not gonna happens, gonna happen to me imagine how any
but but this Riley Roberts guy, he may do it.
He's gonna be uh a Riley Okaz Quartez that that
I would not not be surprised. He's gonna spend a
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lot of time explaining why he took AOC's last name
and why he's in photos in the background holding her purse. Nonetheless. Uh.
The engagement April twenty twenty two. Been engaged for going
on four years. You know, I'm just how long will
you engaged to do what they do? I don't want
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to call people. My husband and I have been married
fifty years and have ten children and couldn't be happier
when we were engaged for fifteen years, Like I don't.
There's always people do things their own way. It works
out great in general. Long engagement not the right move,
not the right move. It's that there's no reason for them.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Why anything.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You already said you want to get married, get married
anything more than a year. Something's up. Yeah, I just
the guy is just playing for time. He's waiting to
see whether the options are going to get better. If
you can't get engaged and married in a year, and
I look, there are exceptions like, yes, maybe your husband
is serving overseas and he's unable to come back.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like I'm talking about if you live in the country.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, and you aren't on an oil rig somewhere in
the Arctic, right, and you aren't under a deep cover
in the Middle East trying to bring down terrorist organizations.
All right, I'm giving a couple of exceptions. If you
live in the United States and you are engaged for
over a year.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is it is.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Something's up. It's good advice. I'm just trying to make
people's life better. If he's not willing to do that,
then something is up. He's just playing for time. Where
are you on pre nups? Because people have been pointing
out to me there is another James Sexton out there.
Have you seen this guy? He's all over the internet.
He's a divorce attorney who shares my legal name. Obviously
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you all know me as Buck. His name is James Sexton,
and he's like the divorce attorney to the stars, and
now he's become something of almost a life coach, I think,
online for people, and he's trying to tell everybody that everybody,
regardless of well should have a pre nup because otherwise
the state, meaning you know, whatever state you live in,
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has one that they've already made up for you. I disagree.
I am not a pre nup guy. I mean, I
guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here,
But unless you're like a unless you're like a Rockefeller
and you're on wife number two or three, I I
don't think prenups are the move. I mean, I had
a negative net worth when I got married, so all
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I would have been doing is spreading out more of
the money that basically I owed. And we had a
negative net worth for a long time early in our
marriage too. I do understand like if I had been
where I am now and I had never gotten married,
I would be skeptical of the world out there in
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a way that I was not when I was twenty
five and I got married.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So I think partly its age.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I guess to your point, Buck, if your family
is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellas back in the day,
like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll talk about in the
third hour, maybe you should sit around. The word is
by the way, that Gavin Newsom had a several hundred
thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you, despite the
fact that he claimed that he was raised with no assets,
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which will play for you in the third hour. I
think you have to be really wealthy to even think
about a prenum. To me, now, everyone, I maybe it's
easy to do a prenup if neither one of you
have anything. Maybe it's not that much of a fight.
And so maybe that's what he's kind of getting at
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is basically just presumption that the marital union might end.
And so if you already have made decisions that are rational,
but life's circumstances changed so much. I mean, if you
don't have kids and you get divorced, to me, that's
not I understand, it's like not ideal to get divorced,
But if you don't have kids, your divorce is more
like a breakup than it is there's not a child
(31:38):
or share the other James sex. Then if you go
on Instagram or on TikTok, he every it's like, I mean,
maybe he's the most famous sex then out there now,
who knows. But he says, you break it down into
yours mind, communal marital property, and you just start from there.
I look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate
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for it, but I'm I think it's interesting that now
this is becoming, this is growing as a thing before
people get married, even when they This is specifically he's
saying for people because you don't know, and so set
it up now, because you can't set it up after
the fact. I mean, there's a scene I think, you know,
Donald and Ivanna they had a prenup and that was
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part of one of these movies or whatever. They're negotiating
their prenup. And I do believe there was there was
a pren up there, but that's because he's a Trump
and he's got a massive fortune. And then you get
into the company, you know, the family business. You know,
how do you split up some of these things? And
some of it does get very complicated very quickly. So yeah,
I don't know. I just just put it out there.
(32:43):
I just want to point out there's another James Sexton,
which is there's also a lot of a lot of
relationship advice that has been given in this segment, all
of which I would point out is flawless in general. Well,
and our wives know that both of us, Clay and
Buck respectively, according to their wives, flawless when it comes
to relationships. That's exactly right. Have all the perfect as
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I'm regularly referred to.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Frankly, Yeah, I know all right.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
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Guess what it has grown about fifty five percent. That's right,
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Long term.
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We will
address coming up here in a few minutes. The Gavin
Newsom just making it by the pulling up of his
own Prada boots.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
You know, really just dealing with the hardships of Sometimes
the butler wasn't there to open my front door. Sometimes, Clay,
I had to wax my own surfboard.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It was rough growing up as the son of an
oil executive and being so close to the Getty family,
one of the richest families in the entire state of California,
is really difficult for Gavin Newsom. So he's he's a
really impressive guy. We got some callers and I can't
(35:30):
wait to talk about Gavin Newsom. Mike and Mobile Alabama.
This is the perfect Mobile Alabama call. Mike, what you
got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Hey? Buck was talking about James Sexton, the divorce guy.
But there's Jimmy Sexton, who is probably the number one
sports agent. I mean he was for Nick Saban, Tommy Tubverville.
I mean you named the top eight coaches and Jimmy
Sexton it's their agent. Is there any relation?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh, that's a good question. You are not related to
Jimmy Sexton, that you know, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, I have no idea, And I don't think I
related to James Sexton, the divorce attorney either. He's got
the divorce attorney. He's got a lot of tattoos on
his forearms, which I've never seen on a famous divorce
attorney before Jimmy Sexton.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
That's a perfect call for Mobile because if you're a
college football fan, you know Jimmy Awesome Guy. I was
actually with him Saturday at the big Vanderbilt win over Missouri.
He represents Tech. Text him and be like, are you
related to my co host? We got to figure this out.
I just got a whole family tree done. Man, I
might have sports agent stuff in my blood. I don't
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even know Memphis Guy. Awesome Guy reps all the coaches
and we come back. Gavin Newsome, poor kid. We'll discuss
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,
we are eight days away from the official election day
in New Jersey, in Virginia, and in New York City,
and we are discussing the crazy rally that took place
in New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Surrounding Mom, Donnie, Kathy Hokel.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now we got Hikeem Jeffries endorsing Mom, Donnie, and I
want to play this one. This is AOC, AOC saying
we're not crazy. They want us to think we're crazy.
This is cut five, AOC screaming at everyone while she
(00:43):
jumps around.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Listen, we must remember.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
In a time such as this, we are not the
crazy ones New York City. We are not the outlandish
ones New York City. They want us to think we
are crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We are saying, yes, yes, you are all very sane.
Let's talk about some of these things, Buck that I
do worry because some arguments are so dumb that I
don't understand how a major political party can make them.
(01:26):
And let me take a step back and say, some
things you and I disagree with in policy perspectives, but
you can make a reasonable argument that you or I
or wrong, or that some of you out there, right
or wrong. There's lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives.
Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could
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do if you believe you have major issues with rent
in the city. The thing I mean, this is just
basic economics. And I know a lot of you get this,
but maybe your kids don't, maybe your grandkids don't, And
you have to succinctly kind of explain why this is
a lunatic idea. Here is just a simple argument. It's
(02:16):
all supply and demand. Everything in life is supply and demand.
If you want rent to come down, then you have
to build more apartments and or kick illegals that are
using these apartments out. This is very basic. It is
the essence of economics itself. The only way to drive
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down cost is to increase the supply of a good
by and large, and yet they are simultaneously making it
very hard to construct new housing and telling the people
who do own the housing, we're gonna restrict what you
can charge, which means means the cost is going to
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continue to go up for those who own these rental properties.
The maintenance costs are going to continue to go up.
Inflation is not stopping for them, which means their profit
margin is going to go down, which means the quality
of the rental property will either decline or unfortunately, some
of these properties will just be taken off the market
(03:22):
because the landlord will throw up their hands and say,
I'm losing money by renting this property out.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
If they have the ability to.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Do so, they'll just pull it off the market, which
will mean that rents are continuing to increase overall because
the supply is declining. What. I don't even understand the
argument that a rational human being could make that freeze
the rent is in any way beneficial for people, even
if you believe that rental costs are too high. I mean,
(03:52):
you lived in New York City. I see what people
have to pay for homes in New York City to rent.
Just we have to build way more homes. I mean,
I don't understand how this is not the ultimate solution. Okay,
So there's a few things here for everyone I think
to consider. One is, and this was even higher than
(04:13):
I thought it was. If you were to just take
a quick look at what the cost of new multifamily
is in this country nationwide on average, and how much
of that is taxes regulations, fees, meaning not just oh,
(04:34):
I want to hire people and get stuff to make
a home, and you know by land, hire a construction crew,
have them make it and sell it, but all the
other things. Estimate that I just found online just with
a quick search clay is forty percent. Forty percent of
the cost. I tried to find a specific New York
(04:57):
City cost, and all they can really is that it,
whatever it is, it's higher than forty percent. And there
are reasons for that. There are reasons for this one thing.
By the way, in New York City, building codes alone,
building codes are eleven percent of the cost. Inclusionary zoning
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mandates are seven percent of the cost. You know, you
go through these things, you say, well, hold on a second.
And another one is again talking multifamily here, right, because
that's the only way you got to build up in
New York for it to be worth worthwhile in New
York City it's very hard of you know, you're not
building like a you know, on two acres, a single
(05:42):
family home unless you're going to sell it for twenty
million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you
look at this, and you find out that also the
fact that New York city, labor costs are so high,
and that there's all these union mandates for labor, and
you have all these things, and these are the reasons
that there's not more housing supply, and the idea of
(06:04):
freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody,
you could look at a lot of things that ruin
the economy. I mean, Venezuela is now a failed state.
Maybe it's gonna get a new regime soon, it's a
failed state. It's a narco traffick or state. And we
don't even hear about the economy anymore one because I
think it's so hard to get real numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But it's been completely destroyed.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro
destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls because people who
are hurting and who don't have very much here. Hey,
these guys are going to use government force to say
that the cost of this washing machine isn't three hundred dollars,
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it's one hundred dollars and that sounds great, right, Oh
my gosh, Now my watch they mandate and only the
fat catch are going to pay.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know what happens, Clay, No one can buy a
washing machine anymore. No one can.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Actually, they their shelves are empty, right. This is what
is going on in the New York City housing market
rid large, and yet Mamdani is about to become mayor
thinking that this stuff is the answer.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It is so destructive, it is so.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Damaging, and it's essentially a repudiation of the free market
replaced with social justice. It's common nonsense. This is also
why the Democrat Party's overall brand is collapsing. As we
were talking Buck, the media company Semaphore posted a new
(07:34):
story that I thought was pretty interesting. This is a
Democrats study, Why are they so rotten? What is the
takeaway here? And the headline is left wing ideas have
wrecked Democrats. Brand new report warns, and this is the
Democrat Party's own study. Democrats have badly weaken their party
(07:59):
with left leaning ideas and rhetoric growing only. I bet
this ties in with your no Kings protest with self
described white liberals while losing ground with other voters. According
to a center left group's report shared first with Semaphore,
the group, which is called Welcome, consulted hundreds of thousands
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of voters over six months for a broad finding, including
seventy percent. Seventy percent of voters think the Democrat Party
is quote out of touch. Most voters the group found
believe the party overprioritizes issues like protecting the rights of
LGBTQ plus Americans, fighting climate change while not caring about
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securing the border or lowering the rate of crime. And
as a result, they say that they have completely misjudged
the audience as a whole, and that I mean, I
think they're right on this, Buck. The reason they're losing
elections is not because voters aren't hearing their message. It's
(09:10):
because voters are hearing their message and they are profoundly
rejecting it. And the data in here is really just
kind of very fascinating to see. And for instance, they
talk about racial groups eight hundred and twenty eight percent
more in the Democrat Party now, Buck, compared to in
(09:33):
twenty twelve. Think about some of this stuff. They talk
about environmental justice three hundred and thirty three percent more,
they talk about LGBTQ rights one thousand and forty four
percent more, And mentions of men and fathers have fallen
(09:55):
in the Democrat Party platform by sixty three percent one
hundred percent on fathers and responsibility. The word responsibility has
collapsed by eighty three percent. This probably doesn't stun you,
and it probably doesn't shock a lot of our audience,
(10:15):
but it is interesting that Democrats are now recognizing how
toxic their own messaging has become. One thing I thought
about over the weekend. This isn't a side. It's like
I'm doing a soliloquy on the radio. Here is how
rare it is for there to be in any kind
of entertainment. You know, Carrie went to sleep, and so
when she goes to bed before me, I watch anything
(10:37):
that I know she hates, like sci fi. So I
tried out the Halo Show on Netflix because I know
the video game. You know, it's okay, But I was
thinking about this because you know, the guy, the lead guys,
you know, a badass and.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The whole thing.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I thought, you know what, how many shows are there
that show but you don't know anything about this guy's
family anything, But how many shows are there where the
dad is actually somebody I've been preaching this as a
dad that you're like, that's a you know, the closest
thing I can think of would be years ago. I mean,
I think coach Eric Taylor in Friday Night Lights was
like it was a really solid dad, you know, masculine,
(11:12):
good at his job, take care of his family.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, he was a solid dad.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think that was one of the kind of subtle
but strong appeals of that show. Now he does move
in the end because his wife's career forces him to.
Sorry spoiler alert.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I feel like he's you know, he's a solid dad.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
There's so many things out there in entertainment where the
dad is like this is like this bumbling buffoon, or
the dad is an absentee. Well, it depends. You have
a lot of a lot of divorce and absentee dads.
If the dad is white. In media, you see a
lot of that, and in media that's that's the depiction
of it. And you sit there and you say to yourself,
(11:52):
this doesn't have to be this way back to the
demographics though, because you open the door to this and
now I'm going back on track here with you, Clay,
but yeah, just someone let me know if there is
a great show where there's a dad that you're like,
this is a this is a dad that American men
should look up to, or I opened I opened or
one of our hours that you were out on this
(12:12):
exact thing. There's a clip up I think on YouTube
you're hitting on something I think independent because I think.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You were out.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We have effectively written I'm not no you. We have
effectively and I argue about this in the new book
that I've got, We've effectively written men out of pop
culture dads. You have extremely powerful moms, moms that do
a great job, like it's the foundation, I would argue,
But it's not just that we've written them out now, Buck,
(12:41):
It's that it's a repudiation of everything we grew up.
They also have moms that are kind of pretending to
be dad's, which is a whole other that's a whole totally.
I mean, you're trying to fill both both roles. But
I mean, and it's a repudiation of the era in
which we grew up. When and yet I'm not saying
that Bill Cosby. I'm talking about the show, uh, the
Osby show, Growing Pains a full House where they wrote
(13:05):
the moms out like you run through most of eighties
and nineties of Fresh Prince of bel Air, family matters,
white and black dads that were incredibly prominent the dads, Taylor, Yeah,
the dads were real dads who commanded respect. We've completely
I didn't know you were talking about this, but this
(13:25):
is something that I really think about because if I'm
going through shows that I'm gonna watch, I don't consume
a lot of pop culture. When I do, it's just
all these dads. And it's it's weird too, because I
know so many I know dads who are you know,
fantastic providers, fantastic husbands. You know, they're trying to be
in great shape and be strong, and you know they're
they're they got cool hobbies and they want to teach
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their boys and they're taking them hunting or they're taking
them fishing. You know, I know dads like that, and
yet I see no dads like that in the media.
So I know they exist in the wild because I
have friends who are like that. Meanwhile, file no depictions whatsoever.
You can even argue, because I know we got to
go to break buck if this is something I'm fired
up about. You can even argue that dads today are
(14:08):
more involved with their kids than dads in the sixties, seventies,
eighties were when it was much more of a mom's
at home and dad is always out of the house.
I would argue to your point, there are probably more
father figures very involved in raising their kids today than
there were when you and I grew up, and yet
they are completely without representation in modern pop culture. Well,
(14:35):
who is the or what is the most over represented
demographic that the No Kings protest. I'll throw this out
there and then we'll get into it. Some more middle
aged white women. Everybody, middle aged white women. I would
have bet a lot of money that was the answer. Yep,
and that is what the data shows. We will come
(14:55):
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All right, welcome back in here. To Clay and Buck
got a pretty quick turnaround. So let's just set this up.
Let's get into this now. The populist left is on
the move. You've got a whole bunch of major figures
of the Democrat socialist side of things coming forward for
this guy, Mom, Donnie, and it's indicative I think of
(16:54):
what you're going to see a lot more of which
is Democrats who on the in the Purple States, they're
gonna be pretending that they're not like this, and in
places like New York where they have a total political monoculture.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
The left is ascendant within the.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Democrat Party after this election, Clay, someone might have thought
you could have made the assessment. I don't think we did,
but one could have made the assessment. Oh, the Democrats
are gonna have to moderate now. The Democrats are gonna
have to I mean, things are getting so crazy that
Kamala Harris is even leaving open the possibility of running
again in the next election cycle in her most recent interview,
(17:34):
which was very bothersome, I must say, because that's a
very expensive thing for me. If she does run, she's.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Gonna run, You're gonna have to buy me another steak.
We come back.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
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of the comments that he made recently about growing up poor. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Buck just mentioned that he keeps losing stakes to me,
and you know this that just what I do.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Just rack up steak, bet Wins.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I was kicking back over the weekend, just thinking about
what exact cut of fabulous steak I might be most
interested in for a nice winter getaway down to the
warm environs of Miami Beach and i'bby Damned if my
good friend Kamala Harris didn't travel over the pond and
decided to sit down for a BBC interview about her
(19:26):
magisterial work one hundred and seven Days, reviewed here by
our esteemed co host here Buck Sexton, and Kamala Harris
said she's been so impressed at how much Buck liked
her book, and she has decided that she maybe should
go ahead and run for president again.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Cut eight your.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Baby nieces, Amara and Leela, when are they going to
see a woman in charge in the wayhouse in their lifetime?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
For sure? Could it be you? Possibly?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Have you made a decision yet? No?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I have not.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You say in your book, I'm not done.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I am not done.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Service, and it's in my bones, and there are many.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Ways to serve. I've not decided yet what I will
do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experienced
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookie's odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that
underestimating you.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I've never listened to polls.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
If I listen to polls, I would have not run
for my first office or my second office, and I
certainly wouldn't be sitting here in this interview.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
All right, Bob behind and hold on a second stake
man behind Dwayne the run for any office the Rock Johnson. Okay,
So before you start sharpening your steak knife, sir, for
what won't be determined for at least another year and
a half, let's just be clear. She should her numbers
(21:15):
now should be the best. They're the best they're likely
to be because the more people think about what a
disaster she was. As she gears up to run again,
I think the worst it gets for her, Clay, she
is behind Random. She was the vice president for four
years and she is now according to you like the poll,
I mean the betting sites. According to betting sites, Random
(21:38):
celebrity movie stars are more likely to run and be
the nominee than Kamala Harris. I don't know exactly which
site she was. This British interviewer for the BBC was
sighting and I wanted to look them up, and I
will in fact look them up while we are talking.
(21:59):
She's gonna run, and I just come back to she
has nothing else. And I know we've joked about they
wouldn't even let her be the president of UCLA or
the chancellor or whatever it's called of UCLA or of
cal Berkeley. But I don't think there's any doubt she
might be able to get UCSB. It's a great spot.
(22:21):
Nothing against UCSB, but she needs this because there is
nothing else.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
She has nothing else. She's sitting around, she's bored. Uh,
she has no uh.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
In fact, other things going on here is what the
latest odds are so this is the US Gavin Newsom,
and will play some Gavin Newsom cuts for you next
hour because he is in a legenist liar the likes
of which I'm not ole agonus, So you going only
agnus only agnis pronunciation, I believe too. I'm not great
(22:58):
at pronouncing words. I read way more than I listen,
so this has to happen to you all the time.
To Buck, I know words, and I can spell them,
and I can use them in written context, but a
lot of times I've never heard them actually used. And
so some of them I love, just the way that
(23:19):
one flows. Ole agonus, Oh, such a great word, but
I don't know how to pronounce it. He is unctuous.
I think I got that one right. That's a very
good one. That's a fun word.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know who's really captain unctious?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's really such what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That's where he is the movie unctuous of the political class.
He is the favorite right now, Buck, right now thirty
four percent chance that Gavin Newsom, according to the gambling markets,
is the next Democrat nominee, followed by we just played
the cut. We're not crazy they want you to think
that we're crazy, which sounds like a lot of twenty
(23:55):
five year old girlfriends you guys might have had at
some point in your life.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You are the crazy one.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm not crazy, You're you're crazy. Uh, AOC eleven percent.
I'm just gonna tell you something. If how many girls
by the way, you just gonna jump in. I gotta
help the single guys. There's not a lot of you
out there listening, but there are some the single guys
out there. If your girlfriend ever says to you, I'm
not crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You probably need to find a new girlfriend.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I'm just telling you. If she feels they need to
tell you she's not crazy, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
One of the first signs that she is in fact crazy,
which is when I saw that clip of AOC saying,
they want you to think that we're crazy, but we're
not crazy. No, you're actually crazy. What is the AOC
boyfriend she married?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right, didn't she marry a ginger white guy, ginger white
guy husband she's married?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think right.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know if they're married. I think they're married.
I think she married a ginger, ginger white guy. Good
for him. Uh, and uh, because I I remember the
photos and everything else.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Poor guy. Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yamala Harris third place right now, she's tied with Mayor
Pete and your boy Wes Moore. Uh. And then John
Assoff who is running for reelection as a Senator from Georgia,
Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Witmer, Andy Basheer. That is roughly the
top ten. Oh my bad. She has not married the Ginger.
(25:23):
They are just engaged. Producer ally says, what are the chances?
What are the chances that he takes her last name?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Hi, I'm just throwing that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
What is what is this guy? Do we know the
do we know the fiance's name? Can I get research
on it? I'm just trying to His last name is Roberts.
What do we know his first name?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So with that, then would he then be Roberts Ocasio Cortes.
Would we go three triple name triple name Biden's his
first name is Riley. If I were going to pick
a Democrat that would be engaged to AOC, Riley would
be one of the top names.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I would go with.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Riley Roberts, Riley Roberts, Occasio Cortes. I mean, I wish him. Well,
I read a story about this buck. You were saying,
if a woman says I'm not crazy, you know, running
the other direction, she's probably crazy. Some men are taking
women's last names now. I think I would disown my sons.
(26:26):
I mean, I have three boys. I think if one
of them came to me and said, Dad, I am
getting married and I am taking my new wive's name.
Last name is my own, I would certainly not pay
for the wedding, and I might take him out of
the will.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean that's some of you out there.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Might say, which would actually be meaningful for the Travis boys.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm just saying Travis boys. I mean, I mean I
got three boys. They want the they want that, you
know that I'll kick money. They don't want to get
cut out of the will. That would be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
If one of them came to me and said, Dad,
I'm so excited, I mean gay. I said congratulations, and
then they said, and Dad, I have decided that I'm
going to give up our name. I'm going to give
up the Travis name and I'm taking my fiance's name instead.
I would say you're out of the will. But this
Riley guy, I bet Riley's gonna do it. I bet
(27:18):
he's gonna be Okaz Tortes. I back, I back you
on on your assessment of that entirely and little speed,
Jimmy speed. Same same rule is gonna apply. I can't
take the woman's name, is it? But that that's that's
not gonna happens, gonna happen to me imagine how any
but but this Riley Roberts guy, he may do it.
He's gonna be uh a Riley Okaz Quartez that that
I would not not be surprised. He's gonna spend a
(27:39):
lot of time explaining why he took AOC's last name
and why he's in photos in the background holding her purse. Nonetheless. Uh.
The engagement April twenty twenty two. Been engaged for going
on four years. You know, I'm just how long will
you engaged to do what they do? I don't want
(27:59):
to call people. My husband and I have been married
fifty years and have ten children and couldn't be happier
when we were engaged for fifteen years, Like I don't.
There's always people do things their own way. It works
out great in general. Long engagement not the right move,
not the right move. It's that there's no reason for them.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Why anything.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You already said you want to get married, get married
anything more than a year. Something's up. Yeah, I just
the guy is just playing for time. He's waiting to
see whether the options are going to get better. If
you can't get engaged and married in a year, and
I look, there are exceptions like, yes, maybe your husband
is serving overseas and he's unable to come back.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like I'm talking about if you live in the country.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, and you aren't on an oil rig somewhere in
the Arctic, right, and you aren't under a deep cover
in the Middle East trying to bring down terrorist organizations.
All right, I'm giving a couple of exceptions. If you
live in the United States and you are engaged for
over a year.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
It is it is.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Something's up. It's good advice. I'm just trying to make
people's life better. If he's not willing to do that,
then something is up. He's just playing for time. Where
are you on pre nups? Because people have been pointing
out to me there is another James Sexton out there.
Have you seen this guy? He's all over the internet.
He's a divorce attorney who shares my legal name. Obviously
(29:23):
you all know me as Buck. His name is James Sexton,
and he's like the divorce attorney to the stars, and
now he's become something of almost a life coach, I think,
online for people, and he's trying to tell everybody that everybody,
regardless of well should have a pre nup because otherwise
the state, meaning you know, whatever state you live in,
(29:44):
has one that they've already made up for you. I disagree.
I am not a pre nup guy. I mean, I
guess I'm admitting something very personal on the air here,
But unless you're like a unless you're like a Rockefeller
and you're on wife number two or three, I I
don't think prenups are the move. I mean, I had
a negative net worth when I got married, so all
(30:05):
I would have been doing is spreading out more of
the money that basically I owed. And we had a
negative net worth for a long time early in our
marriage too. I do understand like if I had been
where I am now and I had never gotten married,
I would be skeptical of the world out there in
(30:28):
a way that I was not when I was twenty
five and I got married.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So I think partly its age.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I guess to your point, Buck, if your family
is so insanely wealthy, like the Rockefellas back in the day,
like maybe the Newsoms, which we'll talk about in the
third hour, maybe you should sit around. The word is
by the way, that Gavin Newsom had a several hundred
thousand dollars wedding, which will not surprise you, despite the
fact that he claimed that he was raised with no assets,
(30:56):
which will play for you in the third hour. I
think you have to be really wealthy to even think
about a prenum. To me, now, everyone, I maybe it's
easy to do a prenup if neither one of you
have anything. Maybe it's not that much of a fight.
And so maybe that's what he's kind of getting at
(31:17):
is basically just presumption that the marital union might end.
And so if you already have made decisions that are rational,
but life's circumstances changed so much. I mean, if you
don't have kids and you get divorced, to me, that's
not I understand, it's like not ideal to get divorced,
But if you don't have kids, your divorce is more
like a breakup than it is there's not a child
(31:38):
or share the other James sex. Then if you go
on Instagram or on TikTok, he every it's like, I mean,
maybe he's the most famous sex then out there now,
who knows. But he says, you break it down into
yours mind, communal marital property, and you just start from there.
I look, I didn't do it, and I don't advocate
(31:59):
for it, but I'm I think it's interesting that now
this is becoming, this is growing as a thing before
people get married, even when they This is specifically he's
saying for people because you don't know, and so set
it up now, because you can't set it up after
the fact. I mean, there's a scene I think, you know,
Donald and Ivanna they had a prenup and that was
(32:21):
part of one of these movies or whatever. They're negotiating
their prenup. And I do believe there was there was
a pren up there, but that's because he's a Trump
and he's got a massive fortune. And then you get
into the company, you know, the family business. You know,
how do you split up some of these things? And
some of it does get very complicated very quickly. So yeah,
I don't know. I just just put it out there.
(32:43):
I just want to point out there's another James Sexton,
which is there's also a lot of a lot of
relationship advice that has been given in this segment, all
of which I would point out is flawless in general. Well,
and our wives know that both of us, Clay and
Buck respectively, according to their wives, flawless when it comes
to relationships. That's exactly right. Have all the perfect as
(33:05):
I'm regularly referred to.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Frankly, Yeah, I know all right.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Gold is as valuable as it has ever been. Whether
you keeping track of the scoreboard on this or not.
Guess what it has grown about fifty five percent. That's right,
up about fifty five percent year to date. Like any commodity,
the price of gold goes up and it goes down,
but it's gone up a lot, and this is just
there's been a minor resetter to recently, but overall the
(33:29):
trend has been your friend with gold.
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Long term.
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We will
address coming up here in a few minutes. The Gavin
Newsom just making it by the pulling up of his
own Prada boots.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
You know, really just dealing with the hardships of Sometimes
the butler wasn't there to open my front door. Sometimes, Clay,
I had to wax my own surfboard.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It was rough growing up as the son of an
oil executive and being so close to the Getty family,
one of the richest families in the entire state of California,
is really difficult for Gavin Newsom. So he's he's a
really impressive guy. We got some callers and I can't
(35:30):
wait to talk about Gavin Newsom. Mike and Mobile Alabama.
This is the perfect Mobile Alabama call. Mike, what you
got for us?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Hey? Buck was talking about James Sexton, the divorce guy.
But there's Jimmy Sexton, who is probably the number one
sports agent. I mean he was for Nick Saban, Tommy Tubverville.
I mean you named the top eight coaches and Jimmy
Sexton it's their agent. Is there any relation?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh, that's a good question. You are not related to
Jimmy Sexton, that you know, not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, I have no idea, And I don't think I
related to James Sexton, the divorce attorney either. He's got
the divorce attorney. He's got a lot of tattoos on
his forearms, which I've never seen on a famous divorce
attorney before Jimmy Sexton.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
That's a perfect call for Mobile because if you're a
college football fan, you know Jimmy Awesome Guy. I was
actually with him Saturday at the big Vanderbilt win over Missouri.
He represents Tech. Text him and be like, are you
related to my co host? We got to figure this out.
I just got a whole family tree done. Man, I
might have sports agent stuff in my blood. I don't
(36:37):
even know Memphis Guy. Awesome Guy reps all the coaches
and we come back. Gavin Newsome, poor kid. We'll discuss
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