October 28, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck deliver a fiery breakdown of the political and cultural chaos unfolding across America, with a sharp focus on New York politics, identity politics, and historical revisionism. The hour opens with commentary on Governor Kathy Hochul’s awkward attempt to downplay chants of “Tax the Rich” at a progressive rally, which Clay and Buck frame as emblematic of the Democratic Party’s shift from race-based to class-based neo-Marxist rhetoric.
The hosts then turn their attention to Zohran Mamdani, the leading candidate for New York City mayor, and dissect his radical platform and controversial family background. They highlight statements made by Mamdani’s father, a Columbia University professor, who accused the United States of inspiring Nazi genocide through its treatment of Native Americans. Clay and Buck push back hard, offering a detailed historical rebuttal that includes references to colonial history, tribal warfare, and global conquest, arguing that the left’s narrative is rooted in anti-American sentiment and historical ignorance.
The conversation expands to critique the broader Democratic leadership, including figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and Gavin Newsom, warning that the “New York City liberal” and “California liberal” brands are becoming toxic in middle America. They praise more moderate Democratic mayors like Daniel Lurie in San Francisco and Muriel Bowser in Washington, D.C., for showing signs of pragmatism, especially in working with President Trump on crime reduction and urban policy.
Clay and Buck also analyze Joe Biden’s recent speech, where he claimed the country is in its worst state in 50 years. They counter this narrative by citing record stock market highs, low unemployment, and Trump’s successful foreign diplomacy, including trade talks with China. The hosts argue that Biden’s legacy is defined by inflation, cognitive decline, and failed leadership, drawing parallels to the Jimmy Carter era.
A major segment is devoted to the fallout from Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report, which questioned Biden’s mental fitness. The hosts criticize White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre for her dismissive response and highlight the media’s shifting tone as journalists begin to confront the administration’s failures.
The hour wraps with listener talkbacks, including shoutouts to Texas, Florida, and Tennessee as top red-state destinations with no state income tax. Clay admits to owing Sean Hannity hundreds of dollars in unpaid sports bets and shares a humorous anecdote about rooftop nudity and his wife’s reaction to nearby construction workers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour of play and book kicks off
right now. We have some things to update you on.
One Clay just this is a pickup from yesterday. Remember
how I played Governor Hokeel the governor of New York,
Kathy Hope, the accidental governor, in fact only the governor
because Cuomo was grabbing ladies by the wayte and kissing
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them close to the mouth, but not on the mouth,
but an Italian fashion. Hochel was claiming that she doesn't
even know what the crowd was chand they were chanting
at the left wing loon rally, tax the rich, tax
the rich. We played that yesterday and I said this,
(00:44):
they're moving from race communism to more old school class communism, right.
The original communism is just a religion of state envy,
or rather of state and forced envy that always turns
into totalitarianism. That's what real communism is. It's not about
the workers and the revolutionary pro terriot and that's all
just that's all the make believe stuff. Once you get
into like the final boss level of communism, it's just
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totalitarianism that roots itself deep into the public psyche via,
envy and hatred of all that is good. That's what
actual communism is. You know, a envy is at the
core of it all. Here is Kathy Hokel though, Clay,
we're about I'm gonna play mom Donnie's dad in a second,
but I just wanted to update this. Kathy Hokle realizes that,
you know, she's the government New York maybe going all
(01:31):
in on tax the rich as a slogan that a
rally is not so great. So now she's like, I
don't even know what they were saying, and play nine.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I thought they were saying, let's go bills.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise,
I heard a.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Lot of tears.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But later on it became third to me that there
is a I know this passion for that. I went
in there as the leader of the Democratic Party whose
job it is to unify and unify behind the Democratic nominee.
I love the energy out there. I told them that.
And I want to do is bottle all that up,
use it in a few days, but take that too long.
(02:07):
Island in the Hudson.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Valley, Clay, Kathy hoche Let's play a game, moron or liar?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Liar?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Here sometimes often a moron, but she did not think
they were saying let's go bills. I mean the rich
was pretty clear. I mean you and I could hear it.
We were not at the rally, and if you were
at the rally, you would have seen some people's faces
and been able to lip read them as well as
they were chanting tax the rich.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Again. I think there is a quiet panic setting in.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Among Democrats that know what it takes to win elections
that if AOC and Mom Donnie are the face of
the Democrat Party, they're in trouble. And really liberal became
such a negative word for the Democrats that they really
ran away from it. They talk about being progressives.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think New York City liberal and California liberal is
going to be a huge part of the twenty twenty
six campaign because I think if you look in New
York City, you're gonna have Momdani, You're gonna have AOC,
You're gonna have Schumer, and you're gonna have Akeem Jefferies.
That's four New York City guys and gals. And you're
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just gonna say those are New York City Liberals. And
then as Cuomo gear sorry, as Newsome gears up to
run for the presidency. I think California liberal will also
be an insult. And I think increasingly the decisions being
made by places like New York and LA are at
extreme odds with the rest of the country in a
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way that the Democrat Party recognizes as toxic to their
brand in what they would call flyover country, and they
have to win some of those races in order to
have power to enact the agendas of New York or
in La heck Buck, even San Francisco. I think you
got to give some credit to their new mayor, Daniel Lurie.
He seems sane right on a level that Mom Donnie
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is not saying, on a level that Brandon Johnson in
Chicago is not saying, on a level that Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, is not right. Those are
people who are clear failed left wing politicians. I think
some cities, Muriel Bowser seems somewhat reasonable, right.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
The mayor of Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The mayor, And I'm saying that from a Democrat context perspective,
not that I agree with everything they do, but just hey,
Trump trying to drive down violent crime in Washington d
c Hey, I'm kind of in.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Favor of that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's Muriel Bowser Daniel Lurie, the mayor of San Francisco,
actually negotiating with Trump to try to say, hey, we're
trying to implement a lot of the policies you want
to put in place, but if I do it, maybe
we can get it through without the chaos that might
come from people who just hate you in San Francisco
rejecting the choices you're making, even when they're rational. My
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biggest concern, Buck is they make all these choices that
are awful, and then they still are gonna just say, well,
the reason why you know this didn't work because we
didn't tax rich people enough, because we didn't go far
left wing enough. That's the reason why the policies that
we're trying to put in place fail. That's my concern
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about Mandani. If he wins that they will refuse to
accept responsibility if he tries to put these policies in place.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm sorry, Claire, are you trying to suggest that if
he's as much of a disaster as you and I
and every sane person with us right now thinks he
will be the voters of Mandani will claim that real
Mamdanism has never been tried.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
It's very sad. It's very sad. It's very true, very certain.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
All right, since speaking of Mandani Mamdani, I will say, also,
everyone butchers this guy's name all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, it's it's amazing, it's it shouldn't be that
hard to say. But for some reason, going from the
M to the end, I think.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Am I mispronouncing this? Or is this one of the few?
Is Zoran Mamdani right like I Commandanni?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, A lot of people say Mandanny, you know Mamdania.
You know, they get all all kinds of things going
on here. All right, let's get into his dad. Let's
talk about his dad for a second. Here Zora Mamdani's father,
who's a Columbia University professor of course, uh Mahmoud Mamdanni.
Here he this is well, this is not long ago.
(06:35):
Here is Zoran's dad on this country that remember, Zoran
is here as a refugee.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Zoran is here because.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The place that he came from was not a place
he could stay, right, I mean that's my I think
his dad came here from Uganda. And whether he's not
technical a refugee. He's certainly an immigrant because Uganda, it's
got problems, got a little bit of not.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
A play that a lot of people choose to go
from a Western, civilized country, right, There's just not that
many people like, hey, we are you headed next? I
was thinking about America, I was thinking about England, maybe Germany,
and then I chose Uganda instead. I don't think a
lot of people make that choice. It was Italy or
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it was Uganda. Yeah, most people, including Mam Donnie's own family,
have made the choice to come back. I do love
Buck that, while he doesn't trust the NYPD when he
goes to Uganda, they have a full security force protecting
the family.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes, but of course, but of course here is his
dad back.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In twenty twenty two, Columbia University Professor Professor Mam Donnie
play at six.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism,
and the American model was exported all around the world.
Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American
Indians into separate territories for the Nazis. For the Nazis.
(08:10):
This was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One that
genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's
what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you
don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate
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between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway,
the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is not Tan.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
First of when you talked about Setler colonialism, I think
he's trying to speak specifically in the context of Israel
as an apartheid state here, because obviously America was a colony,
was a colony of settlers, and then we fought a
revolution to become free. I don't know if he just
skipped that part of American history, but it turned it
was actually the Spanish, the French, the Dutch, the British,
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they were the ones who created this model.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
This is actually this argument that he makes, Buck. This
is why I was so annoyed and have not given them.
What annoys Clay the most is not the hatred of America.
It's the wrong history.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's me wrong.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You can hate America, you have the right to hate America,
but at least rooted in historical accuracy.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
This is like the the and and don't placate.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Those who hate America and are rooted in historical stupidity.
This is like what happened at my university, George Washington
University gw is now the revolutionaries, they were the colonials,
but they decided that the colonials had too much of
a context of connection to colonialism, so they changed the
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name of the mascot.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Were the colonial army.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
We were the colonized who threw off the oppressive colonialism
that we were founded upon.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Right, So, if anything in.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The history, were the heroes of the colonial worldview because
we took independence from the places that had colonized us.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
In fact, there countries were very explicitly the removal of
the colonial overlord was premised upon the American success in
this right. One example would be Haiti Haiti.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Revolution in the Western hemisphere probably, But yes, buck to
your point. When in New York City, where you grew up,
one of the first things they did was tear down
the statue of the King and turn it into lead bullets.
I mean that is pretty explicitly anti anti the colonial
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power that puts you in place. So yes, his his
argument is bastardized and what is really designed to do,
and this is where the identity politics worldview comes in
is white men are evil. If you look at what
the motivation is by and large of the modern day
Democrat Party at its essence, at its base, it is
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white men or evil. That's what they all believe. Now,
some of those white men you know who take their
wives names are voting also to say white men are evil.
There's a not in substantial cadre of white people that
they are collaborator or evil in they are collaborators. And
some would argue white women are actually the founders and
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primary principal drivers of the woke virus in general. In fact,
I think that's likely true, but it relies on the
villainy of white men that is the foundation of the
Democrat Party. And so when mom Donnie's dad is making
the argument that all that is evil is rooted in
the United States, is an intentional argument because what it
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leads to is a delegitimization of the country and its
founding and the declaration of independence in the Constitution. And
you can tear it all down, as we saw physically
happen in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
There's also an argument that I've thought of maybe Clay
for a future book, but it would be very detailed
in history and have to get deep into the history.
But of the one of the challenges that the Western
world has when it comes to all of this wokeness
and historical oppression stuff is that we actually have histories written,
histories that go back quite a ways. A lot of
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other parts of the world don't, Yeah, and so it's
harder for people to know. For example, like you, you
all know that the Portuguese and the Spanish, and the
French and the British, et cetera. Western European countries and
the age of exploration starting right around the early fifteen hundreds.
Afterigured most lands in fourteen ninety two, they start going
all over the world. They start exploring, and yes, they
fight and they take over peace of land, sometimes more
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peacefully than others, but a lot of the time with violence,
and a lot of the time they spread disease. But
do people know about all of the tribes that were
exterminating each other beforehand? Do people know that the great
victory of the Inca people, for example, was the consolidation
of their empire just a generation before the arrival of
the Spaniards, the consolidation of an empire that enslaved and
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murdered countless other tribes. They don't even talk about this.
You talk about the native South Africans. And this came
up recently when Trump was talking about South African refugees.
How many of the people that teach about colonial settler colonialism,
for example, at Columbia University, even though that the Zulus
were colonists. The Zulu tribe arrived and through warfare and
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conquest an enslavement of those who were there in advance
of the Zulus became the primary tribe in that region,
and the areas that originally the South African Dutch colonists
colonized were uninhabited.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well, I mean, this is just not taught. No one
knows these things. This is all true.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
This is also the story of human civilization is human
populations move to areas where there was no people. Right, Like, so,
at what point does land It's really kind of amazing, right,
The whole argument is premised on to your point, a
fact that the historical record is very limited. But land
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is like, at what point do you say, oh, this
land is owned by someone, when do they become the owners,
and the whole premise is just absolutely ridiculous. Also, these
land acknowledgments, which are now the basis of almost every
major Democrat event. You know, they start off by apologizing
to the initial owners of the of the land or
dwellers of the land.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The great exterminators, if you're going to look for them,
of other human beings, would certainly be the Mongols. Actually,
in the thirteenth how many have you sit around thinking
a lot about the Krasmi and Empire. You might not
have even heard of the core. It was actually huge,
it was gone. They killed basically all of them, the Mongols.
They showed up, they didn't like them. They killed all
of them, every man, woman, and child, because that's how
they used to do things. The notion, Clay that America
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came up with the idea of genocide in all of
human history is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Only a truly historically ignorant person who hates white men
would say such a thing. And that is where Mundani's
dad comes down on this. We're bringing it full circle.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
So how are things looking on the Democrat side these days?
Let's take a little again, Let's take a little walk
through Democrat lane here and see what's going on.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We got a few things. First of all, I just
I've remarked on this to you before. This is it's
interesting me to see this. You know that Joe Biden
still go around giving speeches I assume paid speeches, which.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Boy, that's a wasted amount of money, which.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Pushes the question who is paying Joe Biden? I mean,
remember the guy who couldn't run anymore because he's not
he's in cognitive decline. You know, if he wants to
have the ghostwriters put out his memoir, fine, but you're
gonna go. You're gonna go listen to a Biden's speech
these days. Well, Biden has very strong opinions, and you
can hear them on this show. For Free Cut eleven.
(19:42):
This is what he says about being how bad things
are right now?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Play it, folks.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We can't kid ourselves. We are in one of those
moments right now. Over fifty years of elected public life.
This is the worst I've seen it. If Ted were
here today, would be fighting like hell, but his optimism
would be surely tested, because truth be told, our very
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democracy is at stake. In my view, we all agree
that our politics is broken. A political violence never acceptable
is out of hand. That America should be a place
not extremism and surrey. But if decency and grace that
our institutions, what makes us envy of the world and
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our democracy's worst? Fighting like hell?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
For it's just empty platitudes hoarsely shouted into a microphone.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What is the purpose of this, clay?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is it just the desperation for money means that he'll
go speak to anyone anywhere. I don't even know if
he was paid to give this speech. But also, this
is the worst things have been in fifty years of
public life. Really, country's actually doing pretty great.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Record stock market, low unemployment, no wars, in fact, lots
of wars ending. Trump is, as we speak in Japan,
having great meetings with so many American allies around the world. Thursday.
The expectation is we're going to get some form of
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agreement with the with the Chinese on trade. All of
these things are super fantastic. So I just I understand
that there's still a legacy and lingering distaste in many
of our mouths because of the disaster that Joe Biden
brought to bear, and because inflation spiked all the way
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up to nine percent before it came back down. And
I understand that things still feel like they cost too much,
and that is the legacy of Biden, much like I
would imagine that was the legacy of Jimmy Carter. For
those of you who lived through the Carter era from
seventy six to eighty, remember early in the Reagan era
there was a lot of a lot of unhappiness as
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the inflation worked its way out. And then by Reagan
two point zero, he wins forty nine out of fifty states,
would have won Minnesota, but he didn't want to make
Hubert Humphrey feel bad, and so he didn't spend very
much money in that state. But increasingly, Trump two point
zero to me, Buck feels like the greatest presidential term
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of my life.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I really mean that.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And I know you got back to back Reagan's but
when you look at how much better everything is getting
on almost every front, and I get that being in say,
oh popularity, there's a certain segment of the population that's
just bought in that Trump is Hitler. They had a
successful tag on him for a lot of people that
are frankly mentally unstable, that have bought into this idea.
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Way over indexed in Hollywood, way over indexed in creative space.
But if you're just rational in re and you look
at the choices that he's making, almost all of them
are eminently reasonable for what I would say is the
seventy five percent of Saint Americans. And I think this
is why. Also the rise of social media, and I'm
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a little bit afraid of what AI might herald because
there's just a lot of stuff that now circulates on
AI that's not going to be real, And I think
by the twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight campaigns,
it's going to be very, very difficult even for realistically
and well plugged in people to know what's real. But
I think one reason buck I was going to play
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this because I do think it ties in right now.
I would say, we're able to see the lies easier
and the hipocrisy easier, and if you are willing to
adjust on the fly, I think that's how many of
you have come to become Trump voters. And this is
even now the media is starting to get into the
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act of asking difficult questions. Karine Jean Pier, I think
buck thought that she was going to go on the
road and everybody was just gonna bow down to her
because she's a gay black woman and she's a Democrat,
and those had become the rules of identity politics was
you're not allowed to criticize somebody who has an identity
that is protected in the modern identity politics era. And
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it seems to me all that's crumbling. And look, Kareeine
John Pierre can be a gay black woman, doesn't mean
she didn't suck at her job. You can't use your
identity as both short sword and shield anymore. She was awful,
She was not prepared. She was not a good communicator,
even for a White house that was filled with a
lot of people like her who had jobs they couldn't
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manage to do. But she was asked, remember how nasty.
I know everybody tries to forget about a lot of
this stuff, but remember when Robert Hurr came out with
his Special Counsel Report and basically said Joe Biden is
a doddering old man, and he isn't capable of being
convicted by a jury because they wouldn't see him as
being capable of committing crimes, which is one of the
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most devastating indictments of a city in United States President
I've ever heard, and right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, but it is actually rooted in sound principle. If
you have someone who has Alzheimer's or has severe dementia
and they walk into a drug store and they walk out,
you know they've taken something in their hand and they
didn't pay for it, Well, they're not committing a crime
that they have a challenge, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
We mention ray a component almost every crime.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
What Buck's talking about requires two things and act and
act as raya in the old Latin and Amend's raya.
That's the intent to commit crimes. There are a few
that are strict liability, i e. If you do them,
it doesn't even matter what your intent was. I'll give
you one. It's one that's well founded in many parts
of the law. If you, for instance, sleep with somebody
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who's underage, very often your argument, even if you're nineteen
and you sleep with a sixteen year old, and she
claims she was a teen. In some jurisdictions, you could
be guilty of a crime because even what you did,
your intent doesn't matter. It's a strict liability offense. There
are relatively few strict liability offenses in the criminal law.
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Most of the time there is a Mansrea component, and
I failed the Mensrea component. By the way, when I
said Humphrey, it was actually, as all of you know,
Mondale that got smoked. I was right that Reagan won
in eighty four, forty nine states to one. Mondell was
from Minnesota, not Hubert Humphrey, who I think also got
smoked in an election, maybe by Nixon.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
But I need to go back and look at the
losing roster of presidential candidates. But this is the Karan
Jean Pierre clip that I was going. Humphrey was also
from Minnesota, so at least I was close. Here is
a clip of Karine Jean Pierre being asked, have you
apologized to Robert Herr for all the awful things you
said about his report which turned out to be true?
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And everybody just stopped talking about him being a liar
once the June twenty seventh finential debate happened. Here is
KJP trying to answer that question.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Robert Hurr was unemployable for a period because of the
attacks from.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
The Democrats and from the White House that you were
at the podium leading.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Have you apologized to Robert Hurr?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I mean, look, what I can say to you is
I've seen that I saw the president every single day.
It wasn't one off, it wasn't once in a while.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I saw him every day.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
He is someone that shark case have you gone back?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He was?
Speaker 8 (27:34):
He had pretty sharp comments about and we all saw
a different reality and your personal passive saying is my
reality was this? My reality was somebody that I saw
every single day who was shark?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Okay, So no is the answer. But I do give
credit on the questions there, because if you're going to
say the awful things that were said about Robert Hurn,
I don't know that he's ever spoken publicly. I think
he just had to take all these SLINKs and arrows,
and then I can tell you. I can tell you
Clay as both are official Clay and Buck comologist and
(28:09):
Mourning Joe expert. So those are two areas of my
particular expertise. I watched Morning Joe during the election cycle,
and Clay laughed at me for this because it was brutal.
But I did learn a lot about the Elisee Jordan,
who's the person asked the question. She was all on
board for all the Trump is a Nazi conversation.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Oh of course.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And so the reason now that they turn around and
they're upset at people like Karine Jean Pierre is they
look like fools too. They have been made to be
publicly humiliated by going along with the Emperor has no
clothes here situation with Biden, by pretending that Biden didn't
have dimension even though Robert hurt. So, you know, it's
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the effort to clean up their own reputations and also
take out some of their frustrations on the members of
the Biden White House that they were all propping up.
So listen, I mean none of them really take accountability. Yeah,
accountability is I'm sorry, I will do things differently in
the future, and to do that accountability is not Well.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
We all lied together, but you lied, and so it's
your fault. No, you were all.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Part of this. Libs own it. Clearing up things Because
I'm a history nor Now. I want to make sure
I sixty eight Humphrey lost to Nixon, eighty four Mondale
lost to Reagan. I'm told they were both Minnesotans. I
regret the error and I hopefully will have learned from
it going forward. Buck, you got us take us to
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the break here, just throwing Did I screw that up?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I just want to make sure that I get
the historical record right.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
If I get a historical factor wrong, it actually makes
me feel sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
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All right, we got a bunch of great talkbacks, and
I'm just going I love these talkbacks because you guys
do a great job of sending them in and so
we can just run through. I am very impressed with
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the collation, even sometimes when I am insulted and called
mean words, as I was earlier by one of our
podcast listeners.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
But let's run through a bunch of these. Bob from Houston.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I actually gave Houston a shout out yesterday, but Bob says,
we don't talk enough about how nice Texas is.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
BB Now, Clay Buck, I understand why you give Tennessee
and Florida all the love in the world, and of
course on Handy gets a lot of love to Florida
as well, and all of them for very good reasons.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I know why.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
Okay, So when are you ever gonna mention how awesome
in great Texas is to move to as well? I
love Astown, I love the Greater the Greater Houston area
is really thriving. It's becoming so big and massive. It's
going to be better and bigger than New York. Get
out there.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We love Houston.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
We love it's fair, we we I try to throw
in the throw to the mix that Texas is great too.
But Clay, I think that Texas has always been the
red sanctuary for you know, it's like, if you want
to go red, you've known. Florida has become red under
Ron DeSantis and part of the the post covid uh
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Revolution freedom revolution here, and then Tennessee I just think
has become more of a national destination.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I yeah, I think that's all true.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I try to say Texas, Tennessee, and Florida because all
three have no state income tax.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So well, that's the big that's the big test. By
the way, if you're the real deal, you should have
no state I've talked to other red state governors about this,
and I wish they could join, but it's very hard
to get those in trench interests once they get used
to those tax dollars to get rid of. That's exactly right, uh,
Phoenix kf Y. I also love the state of Arizona,
great place. Yeah this is true, but listen to her
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takeway listening.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
To Hannity the other day and he said that he's
made several bets with you and you haven't paid us
at all.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Can you comment?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
I owe show a lot of money, It's true. I
mean the range with this they can play, they can
play it on Hannity. I owe Sean hundreds of dollars.
I think he's won every sports bet with me, and
it's convin convenient.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I don't carry a lot of cash typically.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This Sean Hannity is smoking the OutKick guy when it
comes to sports betting.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I've lost a lot of bets with Sean. I owe
him hundreds of dollars, and it is funny every time
I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just don't have
a lot of cash. I do not typically carry a
lot of cash. But he's not he's not lying when
he says that I owe it and that that so
far I haven't paid him.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I got to.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I should have to like join him in their New
York City studio next time you're in New York and
pay up on air, Clay, because I make amends.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
He's dodge in New York City like you are. Though
now he's got his studio down in Florida. He's uh,
he's a Floridian now, Pam in Anchorage, Alaska.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Oh yeah, this. We got a lot of reactions to this.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I bet okay, Clay. I watched your video when you
were showing us your rooftop pool with a view of
your ground level pull and now all I can pictures
you just sunning naked, you know, on your rooftop and
then meandering down to your ground level naked. Just it's
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too late for me. Everyone runs, save yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Look what we have.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We got audience members picturing you naked buddy, that's.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
The here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I did not say that I'm like a male stripper
or something. I said that we don't have window shades
or treatments or whatever the hell these things are called
in the master bedroom yet. And there is a builder
across the way. And so my wife will regularly like,
I take a shower and then I just go get underwear,
go get dressed, and I don't really worry about like
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if the construction guys are looking at me, because I'm
a guy, Like, what do I care? And my wife
is always like, oh my god, you can't walk, you
can't do this. And my argument is women think about
nudity very different than men, because the women's body is pursued.
People try to see it naked. Nobody wants to see
me naked.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
If you want to look, you can look. Sorry, construction guys,
it's sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Pam
All right, second hour of play and book kicks off
right now. We have some things to update you on.
One Clay just this is a pickup from yesterday. Remember
how I played Governor Hokeel the governor of New York,
Kathy Hope, the accidental governor, in fact only the governor
because Cuomo was grabbing ladies by the wayte and kissing
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them close to the mouth, but not on the mouth,
but an Italian fashion. Hochel was claiming that she doesn't
even know what the crowd was chand they were chanting
at the left wing loon rally, tax the rich, tax
the rich. We played that yesterday and I said this,
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they're moving from race communism to more old school class communism, right.
The original communism is just a religion of state envy,
or rather of state and forced envy that always turns
into totalitarianism. That's what real communism is. It's not about
the workers and the revolutionary pro terriot and that's all
just that's all the make believe stuff. Once you get
into like the final boss level of communism, it's just
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totalitarianism that roots itself deep into the public psyche via,
envy and hatred of all that is good. That's what
actual communism is. You know, a envy is at the
core of it all. Here is Kathy Hokel though, Clay,
we're about I'm gonna play mom Donnie's dad in a second,
but I just wanted to update this. Kathy Hokle realizes that,
you know, she's the government New York maybe going all
(01:31):
in on tax the rich as a slogan that a
rally is not so great. So now she's like, I
don't even know what they were saying, and play nine.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I thought they were saying, let's go bills.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise,
I heard a.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Lot of tears.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But later on it became third to me that there
is a I know this passion for that. I went
in there as the leader of the Democratic Party whose
job it is to unify and unify behind the Democratic nominee.
I love the energy out there. I told them that.
And I want to do is bottle all that up,
use it in a few days, but take that too long.
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Island in the Hudson.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Valley, Clay, Kathy hoche Let's play a game, moron or liar?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Liar?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Here sometimes often a moron, but she did not think
they were saying let's go bills. I mean the rich
was pretty clear. I mean you and I could hear it.
We were not at the rally, and if you were
at the rally, you would have seen some people's faces
and been able to lip read them as well as
they were chanting tax the rich.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Again. I think there is a quiet panic setting in.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Among Democrats that know what it takes to win elections
that if AOC and Mom Donnie are the face of
the Democrat Party, they're in trouble. And really liberal became
such a negative word for the Democrats that they really
ran away from it. They talk about being progressives.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think New York City liberal and California liberal is
going to be a huge part of the twenty twenty
six campaign because I think if you look in New
York City, you're gonna have Momdani, You're gonna have AOC,
You're gonna have Schumer, and you're gonna have Akeem Jefferies.
That's four New York City guys and gals. And you're
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just gonna say those are New York City Liberals. And
then as Cuomo gear sorry, as Newsome gears up to
run for the presidency. I think California liberal will also
be an insult. And I think increasingly the decisions being
made by places like New York and LA are at
extreme odds with the rest of the country in a
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way that the Democrat Party recognizes as toxic to their
brand in what they would call flyover country, and they
have to win some of those races in order to
have power to enact the agendas of New York or
in La heck Buck, even San Francisco. I think you
got to give some credit to their new mayor, Daniel Lurie.
He seems sane right on a level that Mom Donnie
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is not saying, on a level that Brandon Johnson in
Chicago is not saying, on a level that Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, is not right. Those are
people who are clear failed left wing politicians. I think
some cities, Muriel Bowser seems somewhat reasonable, right.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
The mayor of Washington, d C.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The mayor, And I'm saying that from a Democrat context perspective,
not that I agree with everything they do, but just hey,
Trump trying to drive down violent crime in Washington d
c Hey, I'm kind of in.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Favor of that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's Muriel Bowser Daniel Lurie, the mayor of San Francisco,
actually negotiating with Trump to try to say, hey, we're
trying to implement a lot of the policies you want
to put in place, but if I do it, maybe
we can get it through without the chaos that might
come from people who just hate you in San Francisco
rejecting the choices you're making, even when they're rational. My
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biggest concern, Buck is they make all these choices that
are awful, and then they still are gonna just say, well,
the reason why you know this didn't work because we
didn't tax rich people enough, because we didn't go far
left wing enough. That's the reason why the policies that
we're trying to put in place fail. That's my concern
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about Mandani. If he wins that they will refuse to
accept responsibility if he tries to put these policies in place.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm sorry, Claire, are you trying to suggest that if
he's as much of a disaster as you and I
and every sane person with us right now thinks he
will be the voters of Mandani will claim that real
Mamdanism has never been tried.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
It's very sad. It's very sad. It's very true, very certain.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
All right, since speaking of Mandani Mamdani, I will say, also,
everyone butchers this guy's name all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, it's it's amazing, it's it shouldn't be that
hard to say. But for some reason, going from the
M to the end, I think.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Am I mispronouncing this? Or is this one of the few?
Is Zoran Mamdani right like I Commandanni?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, A lot of people say Mandanny, you know Mamdania.
You know, they get all all kinds of things going
on here. All right, let's get into his dad. Let's
talk about his dad for a second. Here Zora Mamdani's father,
who's a Columbia University professor of course, uh Mahmoud Mamdanni.
Here he this is well, this is not long ago.
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Here is Zoran's dad on this country that remember, Zoran
is here as a refugee.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Zoran is here because.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The place that he came from was not a place
he could stay, right, I mean that's my I think
his dad came here from Uganda. And whether he's not
technical a refugee. He's certainly an immigrant because Uganda, it's
got problems, got a little bit of not.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
A play that a lot of people choose to go
from a Western, civilized country, right, There's just not that
many people like, hey, we are you headed next? I
was thinking about America, I was thinking about England, maybe Germany,
and then I chose Uganda instead. I don't think a
lot of people make that choice. It was Italy or
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it was Uganda. Yeah, most people, including Mam Donnie's own family,
have made the choice to come back. I do love
Buck that, while he doesn't trust the NYPD when he
goes to Uganda, they have a full security force protecting
the family.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes, but of course, but of course here is his
dad back.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In twenty twenty two, Columbia University Professor Professor Mam Donnie
play at six.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism,
and the American model was exported all around the world.
Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American
Indians into separate territories for the Nazis. For the Nazis.
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This was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One that
genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's
what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you
don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate
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between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway,
the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is not Tan.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
First of when you talked about Setler colonialism, I think
he's trying to speak specifically in the context of Israel
as an apartheid state here, because obviously America was a colony,
was a colony of settlers, and then we fought a
revolution to become free. I don't know if he just
skipped that part of American history, but it turned it
was actually the Spanish, the French, the Dutch, the British,
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they were the ones who created this model.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
This is actually this argument that he makes, Buck. This
is why I was so annoyed and have not given them.
What annoys Clay the most is not the hatred of America.
It's the wrong history.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's me wrong.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
You can hate America, you have the right to hate America,
but at least rooted in historical accuracy.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
This is like the the and and don't placate.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Those who hate America and are rooted in historical stupidity.
This is like what happened at my university, George Washington
University gw is now the revolutionaries, they were the colonials,
but they decided that the colonials had too much of
a context of connection to colonialism, so they changed the
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name of the mascot.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Were the colonial army.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
We were the colonized who threw off the oppressive colonialism
that we were founded upon.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Right, So, if anything in.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
The history, were the heroes of the colonial worldview because
we took independence from the places that had colonized us.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
In fact, there countries were very explicitly the removal of
the colonial overlord was premised upon the American success in
this right. One example would be Haiti Haiti.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
The.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Revolution in the Western hemisphere probably, But yes, buck to
your point. When in New York City, where you grew up,
one of the first things they did was tear down
the statue of the King and turn it into lead bullets.
I mean that is pretty explicitly anti anti the colonial
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power that puts you in place. So yes, his his
argument is bastardized and what is really designed to do,
and this is where the identity politics worldview comes in
is white men are evil. If you look at what
the motivation is by and large of the modern day
Democrat Party at its essence, at its base, it is
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white men or evil. That's what they all believe. Now,
some of those white men you know who take their
wives names are voting also to say white men are evil.
There's a not in substantial cadre of white people that
they are collaborator or evil in they are collaborators. And
some would argue white women are actually the founders and
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primary principal drivers of the woke virus in general. In fact,
I think that's likely true, but it relies on the
villainy of white men that is the foundation of the
Democrat Party. And so when mom Donnie's dad is making
the argument that all that is evil is rooted in
the United States, is an intentional argument because what it
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leads to is a delegitimization of the country and its
founding and the declaration of independence in the Constitution. And
you can tear it all down, as we saw physically
happen in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
There's also an argument that I've thought of maybe Clay
for a future book, but it would be very detailed
in history and have to get deep into the history.
But of the one of the challenges that the Western
world has when it comes to all of this wokeness
and historical oppression stuff is that we actually have histories written,
histories that go back quite a ways. A lot of
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other parts of the world don't, Yeah, and so it's
harder for people to know. For example, like you, you
all know that the Portuguese and the Spanish, and the
French and the British, et cetera. Western European countries and
the age of exploration starting right around the early fifteen hundreds.
Afterigured most lands in fourteen ninety two, they start going
all over the world. They start exploring, and yes, they
fight and they take over peace of land, sometimes more
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peacefully than others, but a lot of the time with violence,
and a lot of the time they spread disease. But
do people know about all of the tribes that were
exterminating each other beforehand? Do people know that the great
victory of the Inca people, for example, was the consolidation
of their empire just a generation before the arrival of
the Spaniards, the consolidation of an empire that enslaved and
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murdered countless other tribes. They don't even talk about this.
You talk about the native South Africans. And this came
up recently when Trump was talking about South African refugees.
How many of the people that teach about colonial settler colonialism,
for example, at Columbia University, even though that the Zulus
were colonists. The Zulu tribe arrived and through warfare and
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conquest an enslavement of those who were there in advance
of the Zulus became the primary tribe in that region,
and the areas that originally the South African Dutch colonists
colonized were uninhabited.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well, I mean, this is just not taught. No one
knows these things. This is all true.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
This is also the story of human civilization is human
populations move to areas where there was no people. Right, Like, so,
at what point does land It's really kind of amazing, right,
The whole argument is premised on to your point, a
fact that the historical record is very limited. But land
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is like, at what point do you say, oh, this
land is owned by someone, when do they become the owners,
and the whole premise is just absolutely ridiculous. Also, these
land acknowledgments, which are now the basis of almost every
major Democrat event. You know, they start off by apologizing
to the initial owners of the of the land or
dwellers of the land.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
The great exterminators, if you're going to look for them,
of other human beings, would certainly be the Mongols. Actually,
in the thirteenth how many have you sit around thinking
a lot about the Krasmi and Empire. You might not
have even heard of the core. It was actually huge,
it was gone. They killed basically all of them, the Mongols.
They showed up, they didn't like them. They killed all
of them, every man, woman, and child, because that's how
they used to do things. The notion, Clay that America
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came up with the idea of genocide in all of
human history is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Only a truly historically ignorant person who hates white men
would say such a thing. And that is where Mundani's
dad comes down on this. We're bringing it full circle.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
So how are things looking on the Democrat side these days?
Let's take a little again, Let's take a little walk
through Democrat lane here and see what's going on.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We got a few things. First of all, I just
I've remarked on this to you before. This is it's
interesting me to see this. You know that Joe Biden
still go around giving speeches I assume paid speeches, which.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Boy, that's a wasted amount of money, which.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Pushes the question who is paying Joe Biden? I mean,
remember the guy who couldn't run anymore because he's not
he's in cognitive decline. You know, if he wants to
have the ghostwriters put out his memoir, fine, but you're
gonna go. You're gonna go listen to a Biden's speech
these days. Well, Biden has very strong opinions, and you
can hear them on this show. For Free Cut eleven.
(19:42):
This is what he says about being how bad things
are right now?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Play it, folks.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We can't kid ourselves. We are in one of those
moments right now. Over fifty years of elected public life.
This is the worst I've seen it. If Ted were
here today, would be fighting like hell, but his optimism
would be surely tested, because truth be told, our very
(20:07):
democracy is at stake. In my view, we all agree
that our politics is broken. A political violence never acceptable
is out of hand. That America should be a place
not extremism and surrey. But if decency and grace that
our institutions, what makes us envy of the world and
(20:27):
our democracy's worst? Fighting like hell?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
For it's just empty platitudes hoarsely shouted into a microphone.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
What is the purpose of this, clay?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is it just the desperation for money means that he'll
go speak to anyone anywhere. I don't even know if
he was paid to give this speech. But also, this
is the worst things have been in fifty years of
public life. Really, country's actually doing pretty great.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Record stock market, low unemployment, no wars, in fact, lots
of wars ending. Trump is, as we speak in Japan,
having great meetings with so many American allies around the world. Thursday.
The expectation is we're going to get some form of
(21:14):
agreement with the with the Chinese on trade. All of
these things are super fantastic. So I just I understand
that there's still a legacy and lingering distaste in many
of our mouths because of the disaster that Joe Biden
brought to bear, and because inflation spiked all the way
(21:38):
up to nine percent before it came back down. And
I understand that things still feel like they cost too much,
and that is the legacy of Biden, much like I
would imagine that was the legacy of Jimmy Carter. For
those of you who lived through the Carter era from
seventy six to eighty, remember early in the Reagan era
there was a lot of a lot of unhappiness as
(22:02):
the inflation worked its way out. And then by Reagan
two point zero, he wins forty nine out of fifty states,
would have won Minnesota, but he didn't want to make
Hubert Humphrey feel bad, and so he didn't spend very
much money in that state. But increasingly, Trump two point
zero to me, Buck feels like the greatest presidential term
(22:25):
of my life.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I really mean that.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And I know you got back to back Reagan's but
when you look at how much better everything is getting
on almost every front, and I get that being in say,
oh popularity, there's a certain segment of the population that's
just bought in that Trump is Hitler. They had a
successful tag on him for a lot of people that
are frankly mentally unstable, that have bought into this idea.
(22:52):
Way over indexed in Hollywood, way over indexed in creative space.
But if you're just rational in re and you look
at the choices that he's making, almost all of them
are eminently reasonable for what I would say is the
seventy five percent of Saint Americans. And I think this
is why. Also the rise of social media, and I'm
(23:15):
a little bit afraid of what AI might herald because
there's just a lot of stuff that now circulates on
AI that's not going to be real, And I think
by the twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight campaigns,
it's going to be very, very difficult even for realistically
and well plugged in people to know what's real. But
I think one reason buck I was going to play
(23:36):
this because I do think it ties in right now.
I would say, we're able to see the lies easier
and the hipocrisy easier, and if you are willing to
adjust on the fly, I think that's how many of
you have come to become Trump voters. And this is
even now the media is starting to get into the
(23:57):
act of asking difficult questions. Karine Jean Pier, I think
buck thought that she was going to go on the
road and everybody was just gonna bow down to her
because she's a gay black woman and she's a Democrat,
and those had become the rules of identity politics was
you're not allowed to criticize somebody who has an identity
that is protected in the modern identity politics era. And
(24:19):
it seems to me all that's crumbling. And look, Kareeine
John Pierre can be a gay black woman, doesn't mean
she didn't suck at her job. You can't use your
identity as both short sword and shield anymore. She was awful,
She was not prepared. She was not a good communicator,
even for a White house that was filled with a
lot of people like her who had jobs they couldn't
(24:41):
manage to do. But she was asked, remember how nasty.
I know everybody tries to forget about a lot of
this stuff, but remember when Robert Hurr came out with
his Special Counsel Report and basically said Joe Biden is
a doddering old man, and he isn't capable of being
convicted by a jury because they wouldn't see him as
being capable of committing crimes, which is one of the
(25:02):
most devastating indictments of a city in United States President
I've ever heard, and right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Well, but it is actually rooted in sound principle. If
you have someone who has Alzheimer's or has severe dementia
and they walk into a drug store and they walk out,
you know they've taken something in their hand and they
didn't pay for it, Well, they're not committing a crime
that they have a challenge, right, I mean.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
We mention ray a component almost every crime.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
What Buck's talking about requires two things and act and
act as raya in the old Latin and Amend's raya.
That's the intent to commit crimes. There are a few
that are strict liability, i e. If you do them,
it doesn't even matter what your intent was. I'll give
you one. It's one that's well founded in many parts
of the law. If you, for instance, sleep with somebody
(25:52):
who's underage, very often your argument, even if you're nineteen
and you sleep with a sixteen year old, and she
claims she was a teen. In some jurisdictions, you could
be guilty of a crime because even what you did,
your intent doesn't matter. It's a strict liability offense. There
are relatively few strict liability offenses in the criminal law.
(26:13):
Most of the time there is a Mansrea component, and
I failed the Mensrea component. By the way, when I
said Humphrey, it was actually, as all of you know,
Mondale that got smoked. I was right that Reagan won
in eighty four, forty nine states to one. Mondell was
from Minnesota, not Hubert Humphrey, who I think also got
smoked in an election, maybe by Nixon.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
But I need to go back and look at the
losing roster of presidential candidates. But this is the Karan
Jean Pierre clip that I was going. Humphrey was also
from Minnesota, so at least I was close. Here is
a clip of Karine Jean Pierre being asked, have you
apologized to Robert Herr for all the awful things you
said about his report which turned out to be true?
(26:55):
And everybody just stopped talking about him being a liar
once the June twenty seventh finential debate happened. Here is
KJP trying to answer that question.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Robert Hurr was unemployable for a period because of the
attacks from.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
The Democrats and from the White House that you were
at the podium leading.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Have you apologized to Robert Hurr?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I mean, look, what I can say to you is
I've seen that I saw the president every single day.
It wasn't one off, it wasn't once in a while.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I saw him every day.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
He is someone that shark case have you gone back?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He was?
Speaker 8 (27:34):
He had pretty sharp comments about and we all saw
a different reality and your personal passive saying is my
reality was this? My reality was somebody that I saw
every single day who was shark?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Okay, So no is the answer. But I do give
credit on the questions there, because if you're going to
say the awful things that were said about Robert Hurn,
I don't know that he's ever spoken publicly. I think
he just had to take all these SLINKs and arrows,
and then I can tell you. I can tell you
Clay as both are official Clay and Buck comologist and
(28:09):
Mourning Joe expert. So those are two areas of my
particular expertise. I watched Morning Joe during the election cycle,
and Clay laughed at me for this because it was brutal.
But I did learn a lot about the Elisee Jordan,
who's the person asked the question. She was all on
board for all the Trump is a Nazi conversation.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Oh of course.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And so the reason now that they turn around and
they're upset at people like Karine Jean Pierre is they
look like fools too. They have been made to be
publicly humiliated by going along with the Emperor has no
clothes here situation with Biden, by pretending that Biden didn't
have dimension even though Robert hurt. So, you know, it's
(28:52):
the effort to clean up their own reputations and also
take out some of their frustrations on the members of
the Biden White House that they were all propping up.
So listen, I mean none of them really take accountability. Yeah,
accountability is I'm sorry, I will do things differently in
the future, and to do that accountability is not Well.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
We all lied together, but you lied, and so it's
your fault. No, you were all.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Part of this. Libs own it. Clearing up things Because
I'm a history nor Now. I want to make sure
I sixty eight Humphrey lost to Nixon, eighty four Mondale
lost to Reagan. I'm told they were both Minnesotans. I
regret the error and I hopefully will have learned from
it going forward. Buck, you got us take us to
(29:37):
the break here, just throwing Did I screw that up?
Speaker 9 (29:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, I just want to make sure that I get
the historical record right.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
If I get a historical factor wrong, it actually makes
me feel sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
All right, we got a bunch of great talkbacks, and
I'm just going I love these talkbacks because you guys
do a great job of sending them in and so
we can just run through. I am very impressed with
(32:27):
the collation, even sometimes when I am insulted and called
mean words, as I was earlier by one of our
podcast listeners.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
But let's run through a bunch of these. Bob from Houston.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
I actually gave Houston a shout out yesterday, but Bob says,
we don't talk enough about how nice Texas is.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
BB Now, Clay Buck, I understand why you give Tennessee
and Florida all the love in the world, and of
course on Handy gets a lot of love to Florida
as well, and all of them for very good reasons.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I know why.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
Okay, So when are you ever gonna mention how awesome
in great Texas is to move to as well? I
love Astown, I love the Greater the Greater Houston area
is really thriving. It's becoming so big and massive. It's
going to be better and bigger than New York. Get
out there.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We love Houston.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
We love it's fair, we we I try to throw
in the throw to the mix that Texas is great too.
But Clay, I think that Texas has always been the
red sanctuary for you know, it's like, if you want
to go red, you've known. Florida has become red under
Ron DeSantis and part of the the post covid uh
(33:38):
Revolution freedom revolution here, and then Tennessee I just think
has become more of a national destination.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
I yeah, I think that's all true.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I try to say Texas, Tennessee, and Florida because all
three have no state income tax.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So well, that's the big that's the big test. By
the way, if you're the real deal, you should have
no state I've talked to other red state governors about this,
and I wish they could join, but it's very hard
to get those in trench interests once they get used
to those tax dollars to get rid of. That's exactly right, uh,
Phoenix kf Y. I also love the state of Arizona,
great place. Yeah this is true, but listen to her
(34:16):
takeway listening.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
To Hannity the other day and he said that he's
made several bets with you and you haven't paid us
at all.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Can you comment?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
I owe show a lot of money, It's true. I
mean the range with this they can play, they can
play it on Hannity. I owe Sean hundreds of dollars.
I think he's won every sports bet with me, and
it's convin convenient.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I don't carry a lot of cash typically.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This Sean Hannity is smoking the OutKick guy when it
comes to sports betting.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I've lost a lot of bets with Sean. I owe
him hundreds of dollars, and it is funny every time
I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just don't have
a lot of cash. I do not typically carry a
lot of cash. But he's not he's not lying when
he says that I owe it and that that so
far I haven't paid him.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
I got to.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I should have to like join him in their New
York City studio next time you're in New York and
pay up on air, Clay, because I make amends.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
He's dodge in New York City like you are. Though
now he's got his studio down in Florida. He's uh,
he's a Floridian now, Pam in Anchorage, Alaska.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Oh yeah, this. We got a lot of reactions to this.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I bet okay, Clay. I watched your video when you
were showing us your rooftop pool with a view of
your ground level pull and now all I can pictures
you just sunning naked, you know, on your rooftop and
then meandering down to your ground level naked. Just it's
(35:45):
too late for me. Everyone runs, save yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Look what we have.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
We got audience members picturing you naked buddy, that's.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
The here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
I did not say that I'm like a male stripper
or something. I said that we don't have window shades
or treatments or whatever the hell these things are called
in the master bedroom yet. And there is a builder
across the way. And so my wife will regularly like,
I take a shower and then I just go get underwear,
go get dressed, and I don't really worry about like
(36:18):
if the construction guys are looking at me, because I'm
a guy, Like, what do I care? And my wife
is always like, oh my god, you can't walk, you
can't do this. And my argument is women think about
nudity very different than men, because the women's body is pursued.
People try to see it naked. Nobody wants to see
me naked.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
If you want to look, you can look. Sorry, construction guys,
it's sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
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