September 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a hard-hitting discussion on politics, media bias, and Big Tech censorship. The hour opens with a deep dive into Kamala Harris’s controversial new book and her headline-making interview with Rachel Maddow. Clay and Buck analyze Harris’s explanation for choosing Tim Walz as her running mate, revealing her claim that selecting Pete Buttigieg would have been “too risky” because of his sexuality.
The hosts argue this exposes the identity politics contradictions within the Democratic Party, particularly tensions between progressive ideals and the voting behavior of key demographic groups. They also explore Harris’s political future, her refusal to rule out a 2028 presidential run, and why Gavin Newsom’s lack of support signals internal Democratic fractures.
The conversation then pivots to Big Tech censorship and free speech, focusing on explosive revelations that YouTube admitted to suppressing conservative voices at the request of the Biden administration during the COVID-19 pandemic. Clay shares firsthand experiences of demonetization and content removal for questioning mask mandates and vaccine policies—positions later validated by science.
Buck underscores how these actions amounted to government-backed censorship, costing conservative media companies hundreds of millions of dollars and undermining open debate. The hosts criticize the Supreme Court’s failure to address this First Amendment violation, warning that these practices could return under future Democratic administrations.
Additional segments highlight the contrast between the media’s outrage over Jimmy Kimmel’s brief suspension and its silence on systemic censorship by tech giants. Clay and Buck argue that while Kimmel missed four shows, countless conservative creators faced long-term suppression and financial harm. They also discuss algorithmic shadow-banning, the lingering effects of being placed on YouTube’s “naughty list,” and why online platforms now function as the modern public square.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in now number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis,
Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out
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find us anywhere. News Jimmy Kimmel returning. We talked about
that in the first hour. Trump at the un We
will play some of that audio for you guys before
(00:46):
the show is done today. But Kamala Harris has her
new book out. She is doing a media tour. You
heard us playing some of the take from the view.
But last night her opening interview you was with Rachel Maddow,
and Rachel Maddow actually did a little bit of journalism
(01:08):
because she pushed Kamala Harris on some of the arguments
that are the most ridiculous that Kamala is making in
particular having to do with her vice president choice, and Buck, you,
as the Kamala Harris expert, having already purchased her book,
will soon be able to tell us whether the news
reports are accurate on this. We prefer to be called Kamalologists. Yes,
(01:33):
that's a tough word. So Kamala Harris. The book is
out and she dove into as part of the book,
she is explaining why she ended up picking Tim Wallas
as her vice presidential pick. I give you credit, Buck,
because she basically is saying Josh Shapiro thought he was
too good for the number two job as VP, which
(01:56):
was your take. I would also submit that I do
believe him being Jewish made him in the mind of
Kamala Harris, given how close Michigan was going to be
an unselectable vice presidential candidate. I think that speaks to
the issues that now exist in the left in this
country where being pro Israel is an unacceptable position. I
(02:20):
think you're seeing Chuck Schumer in real time try to
figure out how does he balance the old school pro
Israel Democrat base that elected him for the past several
decades with the new AOC Israel is a bad guy
and Palestine is the good guy. Angele, even in the
wake of the Hamas terror attack. I would submit that
(02:41):
is a sign of the failure to distinguish between good
and evil, which the Democrat Party is rampant with right now.
So Joshapiro's out because he's Jewish and because maybe he
was a little bit too ambitious. Gavin Newsom and I
still think this is really funny. Gavin Newsom refused used
to even return Kamala Harris's phone call.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
JB.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Pritzker the super wealthy sky on of the with the
Hyatt I think it's the Hyatt family fortune in the
in the hotel business. He said, I can't make a
decision because Illinois is hosting the event. And then she
started to run through some of the other possibilities, and
(03:26):
she said she would have picked Mayor Pete, but she
was concerned that Mayor Pete was gay, and that it
was asking too much of the electorate, given that she
was a black and Asian woman married to a Jewish man,
to pick a gay running mate. And Kamala Harris got
confronted about this a little bit. Here is what it
(03:49):
sounded like last night MSNBC with Rachel Maddow on that
particular issue, Listen to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because
he was gay.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's hard to hear.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
No, No, that's not what I said that that's that he
couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point,
as I write in the book, is that I was
clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one
of the most hotly contested elections for president and United States,
against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor to
(04:24):
be a black woman running for president United States and
as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with
the stakes being so high, it made me very sad.
But I also realized it would be a real risk.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, what she's trying to argue and doing it in
very Kamala Harris in articulate fashion book, I think is
I'm not homophobic, but lots of people are homophobic, and therefore.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I could not pick may Or Pete.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What she's not saying is a lot of the homophobes
are actually black voters in the Democrat Party. Because Mayor
Pete in South Carolina, when suddenly black voters have a
huge say in the Democrat primary wouldn't vote for him
at all. And right now in the did you see
(05:18):
a couple months ago they came out with a poll
of black voters. Mayor Pete's at zero percent. I think
Kamala Harris is not telling the truth here, go figure.
But I think they had data and they said, you've
already got an issue with black men. Twenty one percent
of them ended up voting Trump. But if you have
a gay white guy as your vice president, your issues
(05:42):
with black men are going to explode in a way
that makes you unelectable. In other words, this is a
sign of a substantial element of homophobia. You know who
loves Mayor Pete. White people, White women love Mayor Pete.
They would if only white women in America voted Pete.
(06:03):
May Or Pete would be right now the president of
the United States. Black men do not. And this goes
to the tension of the coalition of the party that
Democrats have built. Well, I do think it's it's funny
that Kamala decided to go there right now. She didn't
have to do this. Really, that's thee her book.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Again.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This is sometimes you have these unforced errors in books
where you have ten people reading them. This is like
with the Christy Nome, we talked about it shooting the
dog thing. I'm like, I don't know that i'd want
that to be one of the hallmarks of my autobiography.
If I were advising her, I don't know that I
would go into explaining why you didn't pick mayor Pete
and saying the country's not ready for a gay guy.
(06:43):
I got a theory on this book, but I want
to hear this.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But this is my.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Point, is that she's forced herself to speak on the
issue that all Democrats know is not supposed to be
spoken of, which is that a Democrat candidate cannot win
if he or she is gay, cannot win the primary
because they cannot win the black vote. And they's such
a substantial Black Democrat primary voting, you know, block that
(07:11):
it's came over and you're not All the data shows this,
but you're not supposed to talk about this because what
it begins to bring out is the identity politics coalition
of the Democrats is inherently at odds with itself in
a whole range of different ways. And that's where you're
just supposed to shut up and you just hope you
(07:35):
cobbled together enough votes from these different groups in some
cases who have very different views of what the future
of the country should look like or but as long
as they're all getting their piece of the pie, so
to speak, everything is supposed to be fine. Kamala Harris
is not an a depth politician. I said this all along.
She was pushed through the California system where you can
(07:57):
just get by with identity politics and the right connections.
You know, becoming the Attorney General and then a Senator
from California does not require you to have to play
the game the way that if you're going to be
a senator from Virginia or a Senator from North Carolina
or from Arizona, let's say, you know, you have to
(08:19):
understand the game a little bit differently. She got to
just let the system elevate her all the way through.
And and this is why she's then just say this
is I mean, if you want to do you want
to talk here, She's let me ask, well.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Let me give you my nat let me give you
my idea.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
If I were trying to be incredibly charitable to Kamala
for how this gets in the book, she's directly undercutting
Mayor Pete while looking like she's not. In other words,
if she comes out and just directly says, hey, black
guys aren't going to vote for a gay white guy,
then it actually looks bad for her. Here she is
(08:59):
trying to fin and let other people make the argument
that she herself is not making because she actually sees
Mayor Pete as one of her top adversaries in the
event that she runs again. Well, here or she is
asked about whether she's going to run again eighteen play it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Insteader running in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
That's not my focus right now. I know it's not
my focus at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I know, really isn't you know?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm just going yeah, well, well let me I know
you're not considering it now. But are you Are you
saying when you decided said you're not going to run
for governor California, correct, Were you saying you are never
going to run for anything ever again? Or were you
just saying I'm not going to run for that office
right now?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That was the decision before me and I made the
decision not to run for governor of California. By the way,
there are a lot of great candidates running, and I
love my state, and we want somebody to definitely follow
in the footsteps of Gavin in terms of standing up
and understanding the power Thatlfornia has to stand up to
what we're saying in DC.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think we all know that she's not running for
governor of California because that means she's she's not going
to be able to do both. And if she were
to lose, she's definitely not running for president then, so it's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
All or not.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Once you've run for president, I don't really know that
you can run for anything else. Realistically, I think, well,
I should say, once you've been I'm sorry, once you've
been the nominee for president, I think it's very hard. Yeah,
of course you can run and run for other things.
But I mean if you've been the top of the
ticket and you lose, I don't think you then generally
are like, you know what, I'm going to be a
congressman now, or I'm gonna run for Senate, or I
(10:36):
mean I'll be a governor. Historically, if I'm not mistaken,
Nixon did just that right now. It's been fifty years,
but Nixon lost the presidency by a smidge to JFK
and then he ran for governor of California lost and
I think that's when he said he was like had
(10:56):
his fit and told the press you're never gonna have
Nixon to kick around anymore. And then he came back
in one in sixty eight. Well, the historians out there,
let me know if that's true. Now, I do think
Kamalist memory pool. If you nailed all that, by the way,
I think the point still stands. I think it's very
very very unlikely that somebody will do that, especially in
the current political and media environment, but the fact that
(11:19):
it has ever happened would be pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I think that's why may Or Pete decided not to
run in the state of Michigan. Remember he left south
in Indiana. He now lives in Traverse City, Michigan. Shout
out to all of our new listeners in Traverse City,
fantastic place. I was up in northern Michigan over the
weekend talking to a lot of you, and I do think,
first of all, that's not a bad question from Rachel Maddow.
(11:44):
And she's smart, right, That actually is a question that
got an answer. You knew she's going to dodge it.
And then she followed up and said, okay, well, was
that California decision a no to politics going forward or
was it a note of just that particular office, because
it does leave open the door. By the way, you
nailed the timeline. Nixon ran and lost a close selection
(12:04):
of JFK in nineteen sixty nineteen sixty two, ran for
governor of California and lost to Democrat incumbent Pat Brown.
And then Nixon said, you won't have Nixon to kick
around anymore. And everyone believed his political career was over
at that point. So there is one comeback kid situation here.
In sixty eight, after several years of supporting other Republican candidates,
(12:27):
Nixon launched a successful comeback campaign, defeated Hubert Humphrey and
third party candidate George Wallace to win the presidency.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But it didn't end up so great.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The good old Dickens actually won the presidency twice, then
won pretty comfortably, I think in seventy two, and then
obviously threw up the deuce is getting on the airplane
on the White House lawn after he was forced to
ignore me the whole other conversations. Nixon's real crime, if
there is such a thing was just being such a
successful and dedicated anti communist, and the left never forgave
(12:59):
him for that one. But that's a whole other conversation. Also, Uh,
I think there's a the Nixon and the Watergate investigation
and Woodward and birds seeing. There's so many angles to
that story still because I think it continues to infect
the way that media covers Republican politicians to this day.
(13:21):
It changed the calculus to a large extent forever. I
also think though that Kamala, irrespective of whether she knew
the Nixon history, and maybe she did, maybe she didn't,
she realized if she ran for governor and lost, that's
she's She's a two time loser from her home state.
And you know, in her own reality, I think there's
just no way. It's either run for president or run
for nothing. I think that's true and and I think
(13:42):
your your analysis is not wrong at all. In it's
correct that once you run for president it's seen as
a step back.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now, Vivek is doing it right, but he will lost.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
He run.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's really about being the nominee. It's about being the
running when there's fifteen people running. It's just as I said,
it's like more, you know, it's the Vigon however knows
Vikas Romney went back and became a senator, right, There
are some guys, but I think everybody kind of knew
Mitt Romney's political career was over and he still wanted
to be in the game, so to speak. But by
(14:14):
and large, I think she's gonna run.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Now. I think she's an awful candidate.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The Gavin Newsom line is a little bit interesting there
because Gavin Newsome not calling her back. Fuck, this is
to me it should be talked about way more. This
is he's gonna have to convince. I mean, he's gonna
have to find ways to sweet talk Kamala into not
running because all she does is take attention, funding, and
(14:42):
focus off of him from that California ecosystem political ecosystem
early on. And so this is again, this is where
I think whatever she whatever appointment she wants, whatever cushy gig,
you know, maybe something that's got longtime tenure attached, do it.
That's the Gavin Newsom plan. You do not want to
(15:03):
spend your first few months of the primary fighting it
out with somebody over your home state who's already been
vice president and already has a solid donor network and
everything else, right, so he's got to find a way
to He wants her to not run and then some
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Speaker 6 (16:54):
I would just like to suggest for what you call
someone who is an expert on Kamala Harris, maybe you
just go with homologists. It's it rolls off the tongue easier,
you don't trip over it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So homologist comologist, I think he's right, like a Jim basically.
Yeah one also just apologist because much of what you
do is have to apologize for the arguments that she
is actually making as an official representative of the Society
of Comologists. You know, I think let's just give this
(17:26):
due respect here. You know, maybe there's some apologizing, but
there's also some celebrating of Kamala's most amusing moments. What
percentage of this audience do you think, like you has
purchased Kamala's book already? Is this the least because they
know that my job is to do it, to bring
them the golden nuggets from the book? Is this here
(17:46):
for the thing that you have most done in four
years that the audience will least do? In other words,
is this your biggest divergence in behavior from the audience?
It's definitely top five high on the list. Yeah, Oh no,
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Sexton Show. Okay, this is something that is significant that
I think actually ties in quite a bit with the
Jimmy Kimmel's story. So, Jimmy Kimmel is going to be
back on air much of the nation, but not if
you have a Next Star or a Sinclair affiliate carrying
(19:14):
your ABC station. I have a Next Star affiliate here
in Nashville, So I will not get Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Some of you will, some of you will not. It
will return.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm sure we'll be talking about what he will say there,
But there has been a massive outpouring of attention on
Jimmy Kimmel not having his show. He was preempted, suspended,
whatever phrase you want to use from the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Monday editions of his program, and he is now going
(19:47):
to be back on air on Tuesday. So he missed
four shows. You would think that it was the largest,
most significant attack on free speech that we have ever
seen based on the response from the left, So Jimmy
four shows. Similarly, if you care about free speech, a
story that is almost going to get no attention whatsoever,
(20:08):
but I think is one of the most significant of
the twenty first century, and that is YouTube has admitted
that it censored conservative speakers on their platform at the
behest of the Biden administration. We're going to talk to
Jim Jordan about this tomorrow, but buck, let me just
give you a sense for how this went down. As
(20:31):
someone who ran a media company and needed to be
making money on YouTube, as many media companies do. Every
time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I
don't think you should get the COVID shot. I don't
think you need it if you're young and healthy, all
(20:52):
these things which have been proven to be true. You
mentioned masking every time I said things like wearing a
mask when you walk into a restaurant and then taking
it off when you sit down at the table is nonsensical.
We would get strikes, and when we got strikes, they
would prevent us from monetizing our content. And at one
(21:15):
point in time, because Tommy Laren is also one of
our employees at OutKick, at one point in time they
suspended us I believe it was for a month from
being able to make any money at all. And they
now are saying, hey, we shouldn't have done that, and
we'll talk about it with Jim Jordan. But this is
(21:37):
actual free speech being attacked. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, who
would have the opportunity to miss four days and come
back and he's making millions of dollars, many people out there,
including you, Buck, were curtailed significantly, including me, including the
company that I ran, OutKick, because we were willing to
(21:58):
say the truth about the COVID shot and about wearing
masks and about all of this such that this is
what they did. This is crazy. But I'm just I'm
taking you behind the curtain. I sold the company in
twenty twenty one. They stopped allowing my show to air live,
and they would edit out any reference that I happened
(22:20):
to make to COVID shots, to masking, to schools being closed,
all those things, and then post it so they could
monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how
crazy that is. That is what and again, this was
the company to try to make money to pay people salaries.
(22:41):
YouTube is a huge driver of revenue for virtually every
media company in the country. Now, they would not air
my show live because we were getting so many strikes
that were disallowing us from being able to monetize this
damages It might be in the billions of dollars that
(23:01):
quote unquote conservative. I would just say common sense YouTubers
were dealing with for simply questioning whether we needed to
be mandating shots, whether they made sense. They essentially took
the Biden administration and did what the Biden administration would
not be able to do, which is sensor political speech.
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They would do it again. Yes, part of this that
we all know, that's very frustrating. They're just backing off
right now because they don't want the eye of Trump
to focus in on them too closely in this moment
while our team, so to speak, is in power. That's so,
you know, it's hard to feel good about this other.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Than we were right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And you know I had I had a you know,
small YouTube channel that got shut down, and it was
the kind of thing where you get a strike or
two and then you don't want to deal with it
anymore and so you just stop.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It was I was doing a radio show at the time,
but I was trying to also just put stuff out
clack on YouTube separately, and I just realized, this is nonsense.
I mean, I had a whole PolitiFact story on me
about masks and other things, you know, just trying to
trash me. And Facebook, by the way, the same thing
shut down on Facebook. Anyway, I'm not this isn't what
it was me. And they did it into a lot
(24:15):
of people in our space. In fact that they didn't
do it to you when you were a conservative, I
would wonder like where were you during COVID and how
are you in any way useful? But these companies they're
admitting it now, like I said, because of where the
wind is blowing, they would we should not have any illusions.
They would do this again in a heartbeat. And it's
(24:37):
not a fair game. It's a rigged game on YouTube,
it's a rigged game on Facebook and has been for
years and rigged against people who are right of center.
So that is very frustrating because these platforms, because they
were dishonest about it, and they got really big. I mean,
this is something that else that I think everyone needs
to understand. YouTube and Facebook. In the early days, they
(25:01):
were Okay, we're going to allow different perspectives, and it
was essentially like a free speech within the law, which
is what it should always be. People say, oh, but
you know, you shouldn't be able to just have copyrighted material,
or oh you shouldn't be able to have you know, uh,
material that's illegal. Of course, no one's saying that. This
is about I don't like the content. I'm going to
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and I'm going to block the audience from seeing it
and artificially shut it down, which is what they did,
and they did it for purely partisan purposes. They should
be ashamed. They're not ashamed. I'll point this out to you.
They don't care. They're just doing what's smart for them
right now. But for a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
This is uh. This is a reminder of what we're
up against and the kind of stuff that they were pulling,
and everything we said that they were doing was true.
This show YouTube refuse to allow us to post our
Rand Paul interview because of his city USA senator and
an MD, a medical doctor and a senator would not
(25:59):
let us put it on the internet running for reelection.
When in theory, whatever you think about Ram Paul, you
should want every single aspect of his political views to
be as widely distributed as possible. They took down our
interview with President Trump from Bedminster YouTube.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Now I want all of you to go subscribe to
YouTube Clay and Buck right now. But I guarantee you
we are still minimized in distribution and algorithmic of success
because of the problem the ghosts and the machine linger
for a long time afterwards. Once once you're in YouTube jail,
you can basically never get out. That's the issue. Once
(26:39):
they decide that you're you're on the naughty list, you
don't get because it's all about the algorithmic showing of
shows to people so you can get more subscribers and
so that your own audience can see it. When they
decide that they're going to limit your reach, you're done.
They put you, they put you in jail. Here, by
the way, is what the House Judiciary Committee and Jim
(27:00):
Jordan put out just specifically so you know the Biden administry.
Google admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee. One
the Biden administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove
content that did not violate YouTube's policies. Two, the Biden
administration censorship pressure was quote unacceptable and wrong. Three public
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debate should never comic the expense of relying authorities. Four
the company will never use third party fact checkers and
Europe sensor. Five europe censorship laws targeting American companies and
threatening American speech, including the removal of lawful content. And
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again we'll talk with Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But
this is crazy. We talked about it on this program.
Some of you will remember it. But sitting United States
Senator Ran Paul interviewed on this program not allowed to
be posted on YouTube. President Trump, when we sat down
with him at Bedminster and interviewed him, they would not
(28:09):
allow us to post that entire interview. Can I just
the rand Paul issue as well had to do with
with COVID and Fauci. Rand Paul is a practicing medical doctor. Yes,
he is an actual MD and a US senator, And
they didn't let us post the interview on YouTube because
it went against their communist guidelines. I mean, they're the absurdity, right,
(28:31):
I mean, they went full Beijing on us with this
stuff and just decided what could and couldn't be said.
And you know it really YouTube showed us who they are.
I mean, I don't know, you know, look, I know
I said that. I said, we'll subscribe to our YouTube channel.
We'll use all the tools at our disposal to get
the message out as far as we can, as fast
as we can while we have them. So I make
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no apologies for that, to be clear. So yeah, we
want to build up a YouTube presence now while we
can as long as we can, because we believe in
what we say and we think people need to hear it.
But is there trust? Is there trust that has been
built with these entities that can only be done over time,
That can only happen if they allow us to build
up the audience that we know we can have. But
we have millions of radio listeners, Clay, we're gonna you know,
(29:16):
we've been shadow banded on YouTube for a long time.
Now they're telling us it's gone. Well, now let's see
if it's gone. I would also point out you will
probably not hear a word from anybody who has been
screaming about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech actually discussing Google admitting
that YouTube, which Google owns YouTube, that the Biden administration
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pressured Google slash YouTube to restrict a lot of videos
out there and cost conservative media companies hundreds of millions
of dollars and maybe billions. And my concern is what
you just laid out, Buck, Yeah, they're doing this when
Trump is in office. Now, is that going to change
whenever we have a Democrat back in the White House.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
And this is where this matters. The Supreme Court withed
on this one. The Supreme Court had this case and
it was I think one of the most important First
Amendment cases that they have had in my life. The
Biden administration on Facebook, on YouTube, all over the internet,
these social media companies, they restricted speech by a third party.
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If you can deputize something that the government cannot do,
the government can't restrict your own mind speech. If the
government does it through a third party, then they're just
deputizing someone else to do what they could not do.
That's exactly what happened during COVID. I mean, they're one
of an opportunity. Yeah, one of the worst Supreme Court decisions.
(30:51):
I think we have six to three, one of the
worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time.
And if I went back and read through the decision, Clay,
you know, I scanned through it quickly enough thun to
read the whole thing again, but I went through just
to remind myself of it.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And it was a lot of But can you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Really prove that Biden pushed them, and can you really
prove there was a harm? And can you really tell
me they won't do this again? Or they will do
this again? It's like, well, nothing is certain, guys, But
I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Yeah, they
did these things. I mean, Jensaki threatened the companies from
the White House press briefing and all of the emails
(31:25):
illustrate what they were doing, the fact that this was
not an opportunity, that the Supreme Court didn't take this
opportunity to say stridently, this is unacceptable and we're not
going to stand for it. I think it's a failure
of this current Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I think it's the.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Beginning of Amy Cony, Barrett and Roberts. Let you down, Clay.
That's not the first or the last time, unfortunately, sadly,
and this goes to I don't think they understand the
internet that well. And I don't mean that as a
huge insult. Most seventy something year old people and most
sixty something year old people don't really understand how the
(32:03):
internet works. I think I understand pretty well how the
internet works. I don't understand admiralty law very well. It's
hard to be an expert on everything they whipped here though, Yeah,
well they it's it is the public square now because
it is so much faster and more powerful than printing
out a pamphlet and handing it out to people in
the town square. Online is the town square now. If
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you don't have free speech online, you don't have it
meaningfully anywhere. And that's the problem. That's what I think
they don't really grasp. You know, they still think, like well,
Thomas Pain and his pamphlets, it's like Thomas Paine would
be all over the internet if you were around today,
all right, it would be a very different world he'd
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You know, you know what happened to me Buck? Speaking
of vocabulary. My fifth grader had a analogy section of
his English homework. I'm not trying to brag. I'm a
perfect score vertical guy on test scores, all right, I
do really well. I couldn't get all of his analogies.
(35:47):
I called in Laura fairly smart as well, and I
looked at him and I was like, this is the
most difficult analogy section I have ever seen fifth grade.
Fifth grade, and you're gonna be in this situation at
some point in time where you're looking at the homework
the math. Don't even get me started on the way
(36:09):
they do math now. But I'm pretty good at analogies.
I couldn't figure out any of these analogies, and I
wanted to screenshot it and post it and let everybody
look at it. I don't even know what company is
doing these. I don't know if it's AI. We got
to be better at the homework that we're giving our
fifth graders out there. Play you just got to sneak
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Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't even think that would work.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that's where this came from, because it was
analogies that would never ever be analogized in any Way,
the likes of fifth grade. I mean, this was tougher
than the SAT and the LSAT. We'll talk about some
more of this than we come back
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will play some of that audio for you guys before
(00:46):
the show is done today. But Kamala Harris has her
new book out. She is doing a media tour. You
heard us playing some of the take from the view.
But last night her opening interview you was with Rachel Maddow,
and Rachel Maddow actually did a little bit of journalism
(01:08):
because she pushed Kamala Harris on some of the arguments
that are the most ridiculous that Kamala is making in
particular having to do with her vice president choice, and Buck, you,
as the Kamala Harris expert, having already purchased her book,
will soon be able to tell us whether the news
reports are accurate on this. We prefer to be called Kamalologists. Yes,
(01:33):
that's a tough word. So Kamala Harris. The book is
out and she dove into as part of the book,
she is explaining why she ended up picking Tim Wallas
as her vice presidential pick. I give you credit, Buck,
because she basically is saying Josh Shapiro thought he was
too good for the number two job as VP, which
(01:56):
was your take. I would also submit that I do
believe him being Jewish made him in the mind of
Kamala Harris, given how close Michigan was going to be
an unselectable vice presidential candidate. I think that speaks to
the issues that now exist in the left in this
country where being pro Israel is an unacceptable position. I
(02:20):
think you're seeing Chuck Schumer in real time try to
figure out how does he balance the old school pro
Israel Democrat base that elected him for the past several
decades with the new AOC Israel is a bad guy
and Palestine is the good guy. Angele, even in the
wake of the Hamas terror attack. I would submit that
(02:41):
is a sign of the failure to distinguish between good
and evil, which the Democrat Party is rampant with right now.
So Joshapiro's out because he's Jewish and because maybe he
was a little bit too ambitious. Gavin Newsom and I
still think this is really funny. Gavin Newsom refused used
to even return Kamala Harris's phone call.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
JB.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Pritzker the super wealthy sky on of the with the
Hyatt I think it's the Hyatt family fortune in the
in the hotel business. He said, I can't make a
decision because Illinois is hosting the event. And then she
started to run through some of the other possibilities, and
(03:26):
she said she would have picked Mayor Pete, but she
was concerned that Mayor Pete was gay, and that it
was asking too much of the electorate, given that she
was a black and Asian woman married to a Jewish man,
to pick a gay running mate. And Kamala Harris got
confronted about this a little bit. Here is what it
(03:49):
sounded like last night MSNBC with Rachel Maddow on that
particular issue, Listen to.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because
he was gay.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's hard to hear.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
No, No, that's not what I said that that's that he
couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point,
as I write in the book, is that I was
clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one
of the most hotly contested elections for president and United States,
against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor to
(04:24):
be a black woman running for president United States and
as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with
the stakes being so high, it made me very sad.
But I also realized it would be a real risk.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, what she's trying to argue and doing it in
very Kamala Harris in articulate fashion book, I think is
I'm not homophobic, but lots of people are homophobic, and therefore.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I could not pick may Or Pete.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What she's not saying is a lot of the homophobes
are actually black voters in the Democrat Party. Because Mayor
Pete in South Carolina, when suddenly black voters have a
huge say in the Democrat primary wouldn't vote for him
at all. And right now in the did you see
(05:18):
a couple months ago they came out with a poll
of black voters. Mayor Pete's at zero percent. I think
Kamala Harris is not telling the truth here, go figure.
But I think they had data and they said, you've
already got an issue with black men. Twenty one percent
of them ended up voting Trump. But if you have
a gay white guy as your vice president, your issues
(05:42):
with black men are going to explode in a way
that makes you unelectable. In other words, this is a
sign of a substantial element of homophobia. You know who
loves Mayor Pete. White people, White women love Mayor Pete.
They would if only white women in America voted Pete.
(06:03):
May Or Pete would be right now the president of
the United States. Black men do not. And this goes
to the tension of the coalition of the party that
Democrats have built. Well, I do think it's it's funny
that Kamala decided to go there right now. She didn't
have to do this. Really, that's thee her book.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Again.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
This is sometimes you have these unforced errors in books
where you have ten people reading them. This is like
with the Christy Nome, we talked about it shooting the
dog thing. I'm like, I don't know that i'd want
that to be one of the hallmarks of my autobiography.
If I were advising her, I don't know that I
would go into explaining why you didn't pick mayor Pete
and saying the country's not ready for a gay guy.
(06:43):
I got a theory on this book, but I want
to hear this.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But this is my.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Point, is that she's forced herself to speak on the
issue that all Democrats know is not supposed to be
spoken of, which is that a Democrat candidate cannot win
if he or she is gay, cannot win the primary
because they cannot win the black vote. And they's such
a substantial Black Democrat primary voting, you know, block that
(07:11):
it's came over and you're not All the data shows this,
but you're not supposed to talk about this because what
it begins to bring out is the identity politics coalition
of the Democrats is inherently at odds with itself in
a whole range of different ways. And that's where you're
just supposed to shut up and you just hope you
(07:35):
cobbled together enough votes from these different groups in some
cases who have very different views of what the future
of the country should look like or but as long
as they're all getting their piece of the pie, so
to speak, everything is supposed to be fine. Kamala Harris
is not an a depth politician. I said this all along.
She was pushed through the California system where you can
(07:57):
just get by with identity politics and the right connections.
You know, becoming the Attorney General and then a Senator
from California does not require you to have to play
the game the way that if you're going to be
a senator from Virginia or a Senator from North Carolina
or from Arizona, let's say, you know, you have to
(08:19):
understand the game a little bit differently. She got to
just let the system elevate her all the way through.
And and this is why she's then just say this
is I mean, if you want to do you want
to talk here, She's let me ask, well.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Let me give you my nat let me give you
my idea.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
If I were trying to be incredibly charitable to Kamala
for how this gets in the book, she's directly undercutting
Mayor Pete while looking like she's not. In other words,
if she comes out and just directly says, hey, black
guys aren't going to vote for a gay white guy,
then it actually looks bad for her. Here she is
(08:59):
trying to fin and let other people make the argument
that she herself is not making because she actually sees
Mayor Pete as one of her top adversaries in the
event that she runs again. Well, here or she is
asked about whether she's going to run again eighteen play it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Insteader running in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
That's not my focus right now. I know it's not
my focus at all.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I know, really isn't you know?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I'm just going yeah, well, well let me I know
you're not considering it now. But are you Are you
saying when you decided said you're not going to run
for governor California, correct, Were you saying you are never
going to run for anything ever again? Or were you
just saying I'm not going to run for that office
right now?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
That was the decision before me and I made the
decision not to run for governor of California. By the way,
there are a lot of great candidates running, and I
love my state, and we want somebody to definitely follow
in the footsteps of Gavin in terms of standing up
and understanding the power Thatlfornia has to stand up to
what we're saying in DC.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think we all know that she's not running for
governor of California because that means she's she's not going
to be able to do both. And if she were
to lose, she's definitely not running for president then, so it's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
All or not.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Once you've run for president, I don't really know that
you can run for anything else. Realistically, I think, well,
I should say, once you've been I'm sorry, once you've
been the nominee for president, I think it's very hard. Yeah,
of course you can run and run for other things.
But I mean if you've been the top of the
ticket and you lose, I don't think you then generally
are like, you know what, I'm going to be a
congressman now, or I'm gonna run for Senate, or I
(10:36):
mean I'll be a governor. Historically, if I'm not mistaken,
Nixon did just that right now. It's been fifty years,
but Nixon lost the presidency by a smidge to JFK
and then he ran for governor of California lost and
I think that's when he said he was like had
(10:56):
his fit and told the press you're never gonna have
Nixon to kick around anymore. And then he came back
in one in sixty eight. Well, the historians out there,
let me know if that's true. Now, I do think
Kamalist memory pool. If you nailed all that, by the way,
I think the point still stands. I think it's very
very very unlikely that somebody will do that, especially in
the current political and media environment, but the fact that
(11:19):
it has ever happened would be pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I think that's why may Or Pete decided not to
run in the state of Michigan. Remember he left south
in Indiana. He now lives in Traverse City, Michigan. Shout
out to all of our new listeners in Traverse City,
fantastic place. I was up in northern Michigan over the
weekend talking to a lot of you, and I do think,
first of all, that's not a bad question from Rachel Maddow.
(11:44):
And she's smart, right, That actually is a question that
got an answer. You knew she's going to dodge it.
And then she followed up and said, okay, well, was
that California decision a no to politics going forward or
was it a note of just that particular office, because
it does leave open the door. By the way, you
nailed the timeline. Nixon ran and lost a close selection
(12:04):
of JFK in nineteen sixty nineteen sixty two, ran for
governor of California and lost to Democrat incumbent Pat Brown.
And then Nixon said, you won't have Nixon to kick
around anymore. And everyone believed his political career was over
at that point. So there is one comeback kid situation here.
In sixty eight, after several years of supporting other Republican candidates,
(12:27):
Nixon launched a successful comeback campaign, defeated Hubert Humphrey and
third party candidate George Wallace to win the presidency.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But it didn't end up so great.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The good old Dickens actually won the presidency twice, then
won pretty comfortably, I think in seventy two, and then
obviously threw up the deuce is getting on the airplane
on the White House lawn after he was forced to
ignore me the whole other conversations. Nixon's real crime, if
there is such a thing was just being such a
successful and dedicated anti communist, and the left never forgave
(12:59):
him for that one. But that's a whole other conversation. Also, Uh,
I think there's a the Nixon and the Watergate investigation
and Woodward and birds seeing. There's so many angles to
that story still because I think it continues to infect
the way that media covers Republican politicians to this day.
(13:21):
It changed the calculus to a large extent forever. I
also think though that Kamala, irrespective of whether she knew
the Nixon history, and maybe she did, maybe she didn't,
she realized if she ran for governor and lost, that's
she's She's a two time loser from her home state.
And you know, in her own reality, I think there's
just no way. It's either run for president or run
for nothing. I think that's true and and I think
(13:42):
your your analysis is not wrong at all. In it's
correct that once you run for president it's seen as
a step back.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now, Vivek is doing it right, but he will lost.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
He run.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's really about being the nominee. It's about being the
running when there's fifteen people running. It's just as I said,
it's like more, you know, it's the Vigon however knows
Vikas Romney went back and became a senator, right, There
are some guys, but I think everybody kind of knew
Mitt Romney's political career was over and he still wanted
to be in the game, so to speak. But by
(14:14):
and large, I think she's gonna run.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Now. I think she's an awful candidate.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The Gavin Newsom line is a little bit interesting there
because Gavin Newsome not calling her back. Fuck, this is
to me it should be talked about way more. This
is he's gonna have to convince. I mean, he's gonna
have to find ways to sweet talk Kamala into not
running because all she does is take attention, funding, and
(14:42):
focus off of him from that California ecosystem political ecosystem
early on. And so this is again, this is where
I think whatever she whatever appointment she wants, whatever cushy gig,
you know, maybe something that's got longtime tenure attached, do it.
That's the Gavin Newsom plan. You do not want to
(15:03):
spend your first few months of the primary fighting it
out with somebody over your home state who's already been
vice president and already has a solid donor network and
everything else, right, so he's got to find a way
to He wants her to not run and then some
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I would just like to suggest for what you call
someone who is an expert on Kamala Harris, maybe you
just go with homologists. It's it rolls off the tongue easier,
you don't trip over it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So homologist comologist, I think he's right, like a Jim basically.
Yeah one also just apologist because much of what you
do is have to apologize for the arguments that she
is actually making as an official representative of the Society
of Comologists. You know, I think let's just give this
(17:26):
due respect here. You know, maybe there's some apologizing, but
there's also some celebrating of Kamala's most amusing moments. What
percentage of this audience do you think, like you has
purchased Kamala's book already? Is this the least because they
know that my job is to do it, to bring
them the golden nuggets from the book? Is this here
(17:46):
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It's definitely top five high on the list. Yeah, Oh no,
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play along with us. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Okay, this is something that is significant that
I think actually ties in quite a bit with the
Jimmy Kimmel's story. So, Jimmy Kimmel is going to be
back on air much of the nation, but not if
you have a Next Star or a Sinclair affiliate carrying
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your ABC station. I have a Next Star affiliate here
in Nashville, So I will not get Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Some of you will, some of you will not. It
will return.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I'm sure we'll be talking about what he will say there,
But there has been a massive outpouring of attention on
Jimmy Kimmel not having his show. He was preempted, suspended,
whatever phrase you want to use from the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Monday editions of his program, and he is now going
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to be back on air on Tuesday. So he missed
four shows. You would think that it was the largest,
most significant attack on free speech that we have ever
seen based on the response from the left, So Jimmy
four shows. Similarly, if you care about free speech, a
story that is almost going to get no attention whatsoever,
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but I think is one of the most significant of
the twenty first century, and that is YouTube has admitted
that it censored conservative speakers on their platform at the
behest of the Biden administration. We're going to talk to
Jim Jordan about this tomorrow, but buck, let me just
give you a sense for how this went down. As
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someone who ran a media company and needed to be
making money on YouTube, as many media companies do. Every
time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I
don't think you should get the COVID shot. I don't
think you need it if you're young and healthy, all
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these things which have been proven to be true. You
mentioned masking every time I said things like wearing a
mask when you walk into a restaurant and then taking
it off when you sit down at the table is nonsensical.
We would get strikes, and when we got strikes, they
would prevent us from monetizing our content. And at one
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point in time, because Tommy Laren is also one of
our employees at OutKick, at one point in time they
suspended us I believe it was for a month from
being able to make any money at all. And they
now are saying, hey, we shouldn't have done that, and
we'll talk about it with Jim Jordan. But this is
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actual free speech being attacked. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, who
would have the opportunity to miss four days and come
back and he's making millions of dollars, many people out there,
including you, Buck, were curtailed significantly, including me, including the
company that I ran, OutKick, because we were willing to
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say the truth about the COVID shot and about wearing
masks and about all of this such that this is
what they did. This is crazy. But I'm just I'm
taking you behind the curtain. I sold the company in
twenty twenty one. They stopped allowing my show to air live,
and they would edit out any reference that I happened
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to make to COVID shots, to masking, to schools being closed,
all those things, and then post it so they could
monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how
crazy that is. That is what and again, this was
the company to try to make money to pay people salaries.
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YouTube is a huge driver of revenue for virtually every
media company in the country. Now, they would not air
my show live because we were getting so many strikes
that were disallowing us from being able to monetize this
damages It might be in the billions of dollars that
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quote unquote conservative. I would just say common sense YouTubers
were dealing with for simply questioning whether we needed to
be mandating shots, whether they made sense. They essentially took
the Biden administration and did what the Biden administration would
not be able to do, which is sensor political speech.
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They would do it again. Yes, part of this that
we all know, that's very frustrating. They're just backing off
right now because they don't want the eye of Trump
to focus in on them too closely in this moment
while our team, so to speak, is in power. That's so,
you know, it's hard to feel good about this other.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Than we were right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And you know I had I had a you know,
small YouTube channel that got shut down, and it was
the kind of thing where you get a strike or
two and then you don't want to deal with it
anymore and so you just stop.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It was I was doing a radio show at the time,
but I was trying to also just put stuff out
clack on YouTube separately, and I just realized, this is nonsense.
I mean, I had a whole PolitiFact story on me
about masks and other things, you know, just trying to
trash me. And Facebook, by the way, the same thing
shut down on Facebook. Anyway, I'm not this isn't what
it was me. And they did it into a lot
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of people in our space. In fact that they didn't
do it to you when you were a conservative, I
would wonder like where were you during COVID and how
are you in any way useful? But these companies they're
admitting it now, like I said, because of where the
wind is blowing, they would we should not have any illusions.
They would do this again in a heartbeat. And it's
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not a fair game. It's a rigged game on YouTube,
it's a rigged game on Facebook and has been for
years and rigged against people who are right of center.
So that is very frustrating because these platforms, because they
were dishonest about it, and they got really big. I mean,
this is something that else that I think everyone needs
to understand. YouTube and Facebook. In the early days, they
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were Okay, we're going to allow different perspectives, and it
was essentially like a free speech within the law, which
is what it should always be. People say, oh, but
you know, you shouldn't be able to just have copyrighted material,
or oh you shouldn't be able to have you know, uh,
material that's illegal. Of course, no one's saying that. This
is about I don't like the content. I'm going to
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and I'm going to block the audience from seeing it
and artificially shut it down, which is what they did,
and they did it for purely partisan purposes. They should
be ashamed. They're not ashamed. I'll point this out to you.
They don't care. They're just doing what's smart for them
right now. But for a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
This is uh. This is a reminder of what we're
up against and the kind of stuff that they were pulling,
and everything we said that they were doing was true.
This show YouTube refuse to allow us to post our
Rand Paul interview because of his city USA senator and
an MD, a medical doctor and a senator would not
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let us put it on the internet running for reelection.
When in theory, whatever you think about Ram Paul, you
should want every single aspect of his political views to
be as widely distributed as possible. They took down our
interview with President Trump from Bedminster YouTube.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Now I want all of you to go subscribe to
YouTube Clay and Buck right now. But I guarantee you
we are still minimized in distribution and algorithmic of success
because of the problem the ghosts and the machine linger
for a long time afterwards. Once once you're in YouTube jail,
you can basically never get out. That's the issue. Once
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they decide that you're you're on the naughty list, you
don't get because it's all about the algorithmic showing of
shows to people so you can get more subscribers and
so that your own audience can see it. When they
decide that they're going to limit your reach, you're done.
They put you, they put you in jail. Here, by
the way, is what the House Judiciary Committee and Jim
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Jordan put out just specifically so you know the Biden administry.
Google admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee. One
the Biden administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove
content that did not violate YouTube's policies. Two, the Biden
administration censorship pressure was quote unacceptable and wrong. Three public
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debate should never comic the expense of relying authorities. Four
the company will never use third party fact checkers and
Europe sensor. Five europe censorship laws targeting American companies and
threatening American speech, including the removal of lawful content. And
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again we'll talk with Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But
this is crazy. We talked about it on this program.
Some of you will remember it. But sitting United States
Senator Ran Paul interviewed on this program not allowed to
be posted on YouTube. President Trump, when we sat down
with him at Bedminster and interviewed him, they would not
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allow us to post that entire interview. Can I just
the rand Paul issue as well had to do with
with COVID and Fauci. Rand Paul is a practicing medical doctor. Yes,
he is an actual MD and a US senator, And
they didn't let us post the interview on YouTube because
it went against their communist guidelines. I mean, they're the absurdity, right,
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I mean, they went full Beijing on us with this
stuff and just decided what could and couldn't be said.
And you know it really YouTube showed us who they are.
I mean, I don't know, you know, look, I know
I said that. I said, we'll subscribe to our YouTube channel.
We'll use all the tools at our disposal to get
the message out as far as we can, as fast
as we can while we have them. So I make
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no apologies for that, to be clear. So yeah, we
want to build up a YouTube presence now while we
can as long as we can, because we believe in
what we say and we think people need to hear it.
But is there trust? Is there trust that has been
built with these entities that can only be done over time,
That can only happen if they allow us to build
up the audience that we know we can have. But
we have millions of radio listeners, Clay, we're gonna you know,
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we've been shadow banded on YouTube for a long time.
Now they're telling us it's gone. Well, now let's see
if it's gone. I would also point out you will
probably not hear a word from anybody who has been
screaming about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech actually discussing Google admitting
that YouTube, which Google owns YouTube, that the Biden administration
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pressured Google slash YouTube to restrict a lot of videos
out there and cost conservative media companies hundreds of millions
of dollars and maybe billions. And my concern is what
you just laid out, Buck, Yeah, they're doing this when
Trump is in office. Now, is that going to change
whenever we have a Democrat back in the White House.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
And this is where this matters. The Supreme Court withed
on this one. The Supreme Court had this case and
it was I think one of the most important First
Amendment cases that they have had in my life. The
Biden administration on Facebook, on YouTube, all over the internet,
these social media companies, they restricted speech by a third party.
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If you can deputize something that the government cannot do,
the government can't restrict your own mind speech. If the
government does it through a third party, then they're just
deputizing someone else to do what they could not do.
That's exactly what happened during COVID. I mean, they're one
of an opportunity. Yeah, one of the worst Supreme Court decisions.
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I think we have six to three, one of the
worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time.
And if I went back and read through the decision, Clay,
you know, I scanned through it quickly enough thun to
read the whole thing again, but I went through just
to remind myself of it.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And it was a lot of But can you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Really prove that Biden pushed them, and can you really
prove there was a harm? And can you really tell
me they won't do this again? Or they will do
this again? It's like, well, nothing is certain, guys, But
I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Yeah, they
did these things. I mean, Jensaki threatened the companies from
the White House press briefing and all of the emails
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illustrate what they were doing, the fact that this was
not an opportunity, that the Supreme Court didn't take this
opportunity to say stridently, this is unacceptable and we're not
going to stand for it. I think it's a failure
of this current Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I think it's the.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Beginning of Amy Cony, Barrett and Roberts. Let you down, Clay.
That's not the first or the last time, unfortunately, sadly,
and this goes to I don't think they understand the
internet that well. And I don't mean that as a
huge insult. Most seventy something year old people and most
sixty something year old people don't really understand how the
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internet works. I think I understand pretty well how the
internet works. I don't understand admiralty law very well. It's
hard to be an expert on everything they whipped here though, Yeah,
well they it's it is the public square now because
it is so much faster and more powerful than printing
out a pamphlet and handing it out to people in
the town square. Online is the town square now. If
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you don't have free speech online, you don't have it
meaningfully anywhere. And that's the problem. That's what I think
they don't really grasp. You know, they still think, like well,
Thomas Pain and his pamphlets, it's like Thomas Paine would
be all over the internet if you were around today,
all right, it would be a very different world he'd
be operating in. Look at stake, Night over the Sextons.
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I pronounced it is more fun. I just think it
like kind of has the has a vibe that feels better.
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You know, you know what happened to me Buck? Speaking
of vocabulary. My fifth grader had a analogy section of
his English homework. I'm not trying to brag. I'm a
perfect score vertical guy on test scores, all right, I
do really well. I couldn't get all of his analogies.
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I called in Laura fairly smart as well, and I
looked at him and I was like, this is the
most difficult analogy section I have ever seen fifth grade.
Fifth grade, and you're gonna be in this situation at
some point in time where you're looking at the homework
the math. Don't even get me started on the way
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they do math now. But I'm pretty good at analogies.
I couldn't figure out any of these analogies, and I
wanted to screenshot it and post it and let everybody
look at it. I don't even know what company is
doing these. I don't know if it's AI. We got
to be better at the homework that we're giving our
fifth graders out there. Play you just got to sneak
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a little rock or a little chatchypt.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't even think that would work.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I think that's where this came from, because it was
analogies that would never ever be analogized in any Way,
the likes of fifth grade. I mean, this was tougher
than the SAT and the LSAT. We'll talk about some
more of this than we come back
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