December 19, 2024 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, our number two
Thursday edition. Hope all of you are having a fantastic
maybe early start to your Christmas season. As I know
many of you are going to be traveling soon if
you haven't started already, make sure you take us with
you wherever you go. My kids, Buck, are going to
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be arriving during the course of today's program, out for
at least two of them, out for the winter break.
So if you hear chaos in the next couple of days,
it's probably my kids playing what is now the greatest
selling video game of the year, the new EA Sports
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College Football game, which they obsessively play downstairs, and sometimes
I can hear them while I'm doing the show. So
they will now be out for Christmas. And if you
remember what it's like to be a kid and get
out for Christmas break, there are not very many better
feelings than getting out for Christmas breaking. How awesome that was, Buck,
when you finished the last feeling, it is really best feeling,
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Absolutely fantastic. I love Christmas as a kid. My parents
always did a great job being sure we had a
really Christmasy feel in the home, and my mom's amazing
at decorating with the tree and all that on the
stockings and everything really gets into the Christmas spirit. What
is the greatest toy you ever remember getting as a kid.
Was there one thing where your your mind was just
completely blown? Oh? Man, that's a really good question. I
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think it would depend on age. I remember getting the
Ewalk play set from Star Wars if for those of
you out there who are around my age, they had
the Ewalk Village and I remember being super super impressed
by having the Ewalk Village to play with. I got
you Sega Saturn. We given a Sega Saturn when I
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was maybe I guess thirteen or something, twelve eleven thirteen,
they're probably thirteen, and I was the greatest Christmas gift
that I was the most excited about. But as a
as a kid, kid, like really young, those of you
who remember he Man the cartoon, probably a lot of you.
Castle Gray Schull. Oh that's a good too. I got
that too. That's an amazing yeah. Oh yeah. That was
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walking out there with my uh like Indiana Jones pajamas
with the feet built into them as a kid with
my brothers seeing Castle Gray Skull and it was the
coolest moment of my life up to that, you know,
five years or whatever, and uh yeah, phenomenal it. You
will soon be able to have what is really an
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awesome experience of as your kids start to get older,
giving them gifts and having their excitement kind of translate,
particularly really young kids when they wake up in that
joy of Santa having arrived overnight. And I know a
lot of you out there get to experience at both
his kids and I mean kids, then parents and then grandparents,
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which is super cool to be able to go through
that entire trajectory. But that is officially underway for a
lot of people holiday season. We want all of you
to say safe and we hope you're going to have
a fantastic time. I wanted to get into this because
I do think it's going to be significant in the
days and weeks and months ahead. The combination of Donald
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Trump and Elon Musk is maybe the greatest, most influential
partnership that I can remember between a politician and a
citizen who is just trying to advocate for the politician's goals.
Elon Must, I know he's doged, but he's not being
paid and otherwise he is not a member of the
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administration and official capacity, but he's incredibly influential. You saw
it just happen with the fifteen hundred page Omnibus Continuing Resolution.
Whatever you want to say, that the battle's going on
right now. What everyone needs to prepare themselves for is
Democrats are aware of how incredibly powerful this partnership is,
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and they are going to do everything they can to
try to make Donald Trump believe that Elon Musk is
the real power behind the throne and that Trump is
not actually pulling the strings. This is very calculated on
the part of left wing media. They recognize how strong
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the partnership is and they are going to do everything
they can to try to tear it down. Prepare yourselves
for it. I hope Caroline Levitt, who is just on
and other people who see Trump all the time, are
talking to him about what is going to be an
attempt to try to detract from that relationship because of
how successful it is. I give you that as a
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story that in the days of the weeks and months
is going to be very important because it is so
clear and calculated that the talking points have gone out
on this. This is the view earlier today Woope, Goldberg saying,
if I were Trump, I'd be nervous about walking around
the stairs given Elon Musk quest for power. Listen, who
is in charge? Because I've been saying.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It for a while, I've been saying that I think Elon.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Must believes he's president. I do. I called I've called
him vice president, I called him president because I don't
know what JD is doing. I hardly ever say I don't.
I don't remember last time we even talked about JD.
You're right, he's planning the presidency when he gonna get
rid of Trump. So you think it's Musk and Musk Vance? Hey,
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you know who stay away from the stairways. People put
the leg out to trip people going down the stairs.
Watch out, all right? So trying to make a joke,
Oh look, Trump's gonna get killed because JD. Vance and
Elon Musk are really the powers behind the throne. This
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is going to become, if it hasn't already, the primary
to talking point of left wing media. They recognized that
X under Elon Musk is would you agree with this? Buck?
I think you probably would. The most powerful media platform
out there right now and the most influential I don't
think there's even a close second right now. It's what
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the Internet is supposed to be, which is a place
where you have, you know, when you come to communications
and exchange of ideas. The promise of the Internet was
instant connectivity and freedom. And Twitter became a social justice
activist censorship entity. That was its primary mission and it
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wasn't even like a thing that it was doing. That
was what it was really doing. Eglon has transformed it
back to what the initial promise. I remember Twitter in
the early days play so to you, it was like
the Wild West. And then over time, really what happened
was Trump used it so effectively in twenty sixteen and
they started tightening the screws and tightening the screws. They
couldn't allow that to continue. So yes, I think that
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x is the most media platform in the digital space
out there right now. And I think that Elon and
look the fact that Bezos is sitting down with Trump
as well. I don't know what I would I'll tell
you this, Clay, for the first time, looking across the
ideological battlefield at our opponents in media on the Democrat side,
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I don't even know how I would advise them right
now because they're in such a desperate strait. It's like
they're the army that's shown up with no AMMO, no shoes,
no strategy, and no generals, like they have no idea
what's going on? Well, I think what you're seeing on
the left right now is there are a lot of
people with platforms, not a lot of people with audience.
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Yes that matters, right, Like, Okay, so if you're Anderson Cooper,
you can go on CNN as you have for twenty
some odd years. But as soon as you're off CNN,
nobody really cares about to Anderson Cooper. So you're spot on.
But let me push you to the next level of this.
Then what would you tell like, if you were a
consultant for the DNC in the media space right now,
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what is there? You know? What is there? So? What like?
What if you're trying to build What I'm saying is
if you were taking over C and that or something,
what is their message even supposed to be? I don't
know how you go from this guy is Hitler to
the country's doing great and the most important people in
business in the world love this guy and are sitting
down with him and everything's looking cool so far. You
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know what, Yeah, I say, you know my points. I
had too many beers fifteen years ago. Like, what have
they got? They've lit themselves on fire, nobody believes them anymore,
and here is the the next step on this. I
don't even know who I would say is the most
effective spokesperson for the left of center arguments right now. Historically,
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I would said Rachel Maddow. And i'm historically I mean
the last seven, eight, ten years. But she's lit herself
on fire and she's only on one day a week,
and she seems to have burned herself out. I can
give you a lot of people on the right who
I think are effective, and maybe centrists that are really
effective and their audience trusts them and their audience will
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follow them. Who is that person on the left? I
can't even tell you. Let's just put it this way, buck,
If I were in the agent business and I were
getting ten percent of somebody on the left's earnings for
the next five years during the Trump era, I don't
even know who i'd want to represent, because I think
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they're talented enough to cut through the noise and actually
be really relevant. Can you even think like, who would
on the left would you want? Like, there's people make
a lot of money, Rachel Maddow, But I feel like
she's peaked. And I can't even point you to someone
that is of the left that I would s say, Boy,
their audience loves them. They have a real runway here.
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They can be incredibly influential in the opposition to Trump
during his second term. I can't even tell you who
that person is. I That's what I'm That's why I'm
asking you, right, That's the point is that there really
doesn't seem to be a you know, a team ready
to go. You know, I'll give you an example, I
think of what's happening right now or kind of the
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dynamic at play. Barack Obama came along two thousand and eight,
was what was the key thing? Why was he able
to beat Hillary Clinton? Other than being like, you know,
more more likable and better on the stump and everything.
He didn't vote for the Iraq War. Now, he wasn't
in the Senate to vote for it at the time,
but he wasn't automatically tied to what the country had
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decided was a disastrous policy. Right now, the media of
the Democrat corporate media all went all in on Trump
will lose. He's a threat to democracy. He is Hitler.
And I think what we're both picking up on is
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they all went down with that ship. I don't know
who you know, I don't know who the voice is
on the left who you can't just immediately mock. And
then when you add in and this is the front
page of the Wall Street Journal today, the Biden Hiden,
Biden's decline. They have no credibility. It's it's a massacre
out there for left wing media for their own audiences.
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Because here's the unpardonable, here's the unforgivable. And I'm talking
about this like I'm a Democrat now, so maybe I
should like totally like change my vice. You guys all
know that I'm like a democrat now. That's how democrats
all sound. I don't know if you know that, Clay.
They they are at a point now where they've been
so wrong. It has been so clear that they have
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humiliated their own audience. And that's what's unforgivable. Are people
are extended radio family get to tune into us every day.
And yes, of course we always say we speak the truth.
We do the best we can try to carry on
Rush's legacy. We're so thankful for this platform. But everyone
can tune into us and know these guys were right
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and they shot straight with us the whole time. And
you know, that's an earned credibility that we have for
what we do. And we appreciate so many of you,
millions of you listening. But that's the truth we have.
If you were doing the other thing on the Democrat side,
your own audience and this is why I found the
Morning Joe thinks so fascinating. Your own audience is tuning
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in going You made me look like a moron to
all of my friends and everyone, you know at the
cocktail parties this holiday season or you know a little
earlier in the holiday season, but you know going into Thanksgiving,
Trump's gonna lose. He's Hitler. No he's not, and know
he isn't You know that that's the fundamental challenge they have.
They humiliated their own audience. Totally true. And you know
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what sometimes is worse than love or hate, which in
the media business can provoke reaction. Right, you either love
somebody you hate somebody. To me, it feels like a
lot of MSNBC and CNN viewers are actually indifferent. They're
just tuning out. If you go look at their numbers,
fifty percent of their audience has effectively vanished. And that
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means they're not even angry at the host anymore, because
at least, if you're angry at somebody, you might still
care what they say. I think it was Proust Marcel
Prus here he probably didn't expect to get him quoted today,
who basically said, the worst indignity is not hating I'm paraphrasing,
is not hating someone. It is being totally indifferent to
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their existence. And you really think about it. At least
when you hate somebody, it's the other side of the
coin of love, right you're still emotionally reacting to them.
Just being totally indifferent to them is the cold cruel
hand of reality that MSNBC and that CNN right now
have I will make this prediction a twenty twenty five,
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you know, because this is male like Clay's taking. You
got solo tomorrow. Then, as we said, next week, got
some great guest host special shows. So this is my
last show for twenty twenty four. A prediction in twenty
twenty five about who will emerge. Wes Moore of Maryland
is going to become the premier Democrat political brand. Just watch.
It'll take a little time, and Gavin Newson's going to
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try to elbow in there like the slimy communist he is.
But Wes Moore is going to emerge, I think as
a top contender. And I think he's going to shove
Kamala Harris aside because she's I'm a little surprised she's
staying in the game more than we anticipate, at least
for right now. We'll see if that changes. Wes Moore,
to your point, is actually a huge football fan, and
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he was at the Army Navy game which was being
played in Maryland. He's a governor of Maryland and he
was photoed shaking hands and hanging out with Trump. I
thought it was an interesting move by him. He's a
combat veteran, he likes football. He's he's a Democrat. Everybody so,
but he comes across as as you know, very authentic
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and like an actual guy instead of a guy from
Minnesota who came across like some Democrat focus group version
of you know, being a guys guy. So Wes Moore,
I think you're gonna see it. Remember this prediction. In
twenty twenty five, Wes Moore will emerge as the big
Democrat name. Look as good as we're feeling about everything
right now, and we are. It's a holiday season. Trump
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is amazing. We got to make plans for the long
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I was getting so into my Christmas tunes there I
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realize we're doing a live radio show. It's not just
like listening to Christmas music and start thinking about what's
going to go under the tree. It might be some
lumps of coal for the lobbyists in DC. Clay, we'll
talk to Senator Rand Paul about the Cramnibus, which I
like saying. It's just sort of fun to say the
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Cramnibus bill. It reminds me a little bit of the Crampus,
which is this Northern European tradition of is that the Yeah,
it's like the scary center, right, you know I'm talking
about that. Yeah, I think you're right. We'll have some fun.
By the way, So this is your last show of
the year, we come back. I've got a clip for
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you that I don't think you're gonna have her. You're
right about Crampus. Crampus is a horned and this is
just from Wikipedia. Anthropomorphic figure in Central and Eastern Alpine
folkloric tradition said to accompany Saint Nicholas on visits to children.
So he's like the scary Santa. If you've been naughty,
we'll talk about something that I think you're gonna love.
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How do you know who to trust in media? Your
boy Aaron Rodgers has an idea. I want to play
this cut for you. I bet you haven't heard it.
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buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
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Buck I got an audio clip that I want to
play for you, and I got to give credit to
Aaron Rodgers, who is not having a good season as
the New York Jets quarterback. Frankly, nobody associated with the
Jets is having a good season. I'm sorry for our
wor listeners out there who came in with some optimism
in the Jets season. But he did say this the
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other day on ESPN. This is from Pat McAfee's show,
and he said, you know how they will have like
your credentials on the screen when you're a media analyst,
it might say you know Buck Sexton of the Clay
and Buck Show or Clay Travis Clay and Buck Show
might say OutKick, like, whatever your credentials are. When Aaron
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Rodgers is on ESPN, pretty good credentials. Super Bowl MVP
and four time NFL MVP, I think is on the screen.
So when he's talking about playing quarterback, you might not
agree with him, but it's like, boom, here are my credentials.
He said he wants everybody in media to have to
say how many COVID shots they've gotten, and then you
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can just look at that and determine how much credence
or credibility you want to give to it. And honestly,
I don't know if you can come up with another one.
But in this era, you know, I don't really use
where you went to college as a proxy for how
intelligent you are, or even if you went to college,
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if you're like Elon Musk or or Jeff Bezos and
you found companies like I do give a lot of
credit to that. That's not easy to do. But if
you told me you can only know one thing about
everybody on television talking about any issue under the sun,
knowing how many COVID shots they got actually is not
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an awful idea. Here's Aaron Rodgers making the case. Listen.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I know I got to say this multiple times for
people because they don't listen. But say whatever you want
about me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But just before you do it, whether you state your name,
your calcolades, pronouns, whatever it is, just states your back
sets so that anything you say afterwards gets put in
the right Leight. Just get it out there, because then
when you say things about me, people can at least
be like, oh, you are captured by the multi billion
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dollar propagandist and you're still upset about Just so everybody
knows where you're coming. Everybody knows, Okay, cool, you're twice
vacs Maderna with three booster shots. And then say what
you want to say whatever. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
What do you think? I actually think it's kind of genius.
Doesn't that tell you a great deal in the wake
of COVID about how much for you and me? I
think it would tell everybody? For us personally, I think
it tells you a lot. Wouldn't that impact how you
would consider someone's opinion on a variety of subjects. It's perfection.
He's a very shrewd fellow, it's a brilliant test and
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I totally agree with his assessment here, and yeah, I
would love to know. I mean, for example, the craziest
people in the media were the last one still saying
things like I've gotten my seventh booster. But remember Scarborough
was like I would have been really sick with COVID
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if I hadn't already had eight shots. Do you remember
when we remember playing that clip like if you got
more than two, like maybe if you're eighty five, like
my dad's eighty, my mom is eighty two, eighty as well,
can I can I tell you go ahead? Go ahead?
I was gonna say, I I maybe understand you getting
more than two shots for anyone that is younger than fifty.
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If you got more than two COVID shots, I don't
trust your opinion on anything, honestly, because you were just
a sheep and you were just bleeding your way to
go to the pharmacist and just keep getting shot up
with a worthless shot. I think it's actually brilliant. If
I found out that you got five COVID shots, I'm
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not taking your opinion on anything serious. I think that's
a sound policy. Also, if you are not angry about
mask and I mean angry about mask mandates, not even
that you didn't think they were necessarily a great idea,
if you don't think that mask mandates were a moronic
and tyrannical and pointless epidemiologically, although very useful for control reasons.
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I don't trust some I don't trust someone's judgment on
matters of policy or life who does not see what
a catastrophe the whole mask thing was and what an
absolute disgrace to the whole public health universe it was.
And I also note doctors who still kind of be like, well,
I'm a doctor, and so I you're not a very
smart doctor. I don't care where he went to school. Yeah,
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I agree, And I've made hiring decisions where I've been
more likely by far to hire somebody at my companies
based on whether you were like, hey, I didn't get
a COVID shot. In fact, I'm kind of impressed when
people say, hey, because of where I live, I went
and got a fake COVID vax card. I've heard that
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a bunch from people in our industry. I've never want
to blow anyone up on this, obviously, because technically it's
very illegal. I knew so many people who had fake
COVID cards, so many people who had fake COVID cards.
That's all I can say. That's all I can say
about not gonna blow even under duress, Clay I would
not name names, but yeah, a lot of people had
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fake COVID shot cards in New York City. I'm willing
to give you the first two shots because again I
understand not everybody did the math and understood things well,
and it's easy to fall into hype. But after the
first two shots didn't work, if you went and got
a booster, I can't trust your opinion on anything. It's
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basically an intelligence test, and god forbid you got more
than one booster, you are a moron. And if you're
in the opinion business, I can't trust your opinion on anything.
So I give credit to Aaron Rodgers. I had never
thought of this before. But if you had to come
on and say, hey, I'm so and so I got
six shots, I'd be like, yep, I'm not even listening
to anything else after that. Well, this is why, to
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be fair, we've had a version of this test that
we've discussed on the show for a while, which pertains
to politicians, public figures, and how somebody acted throughout the fullness.
You know, the entirety of COVID was the perfect simulation
of what their judgment is like, their level of honesty,
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their level of courage or lack of all of those
things as somebody who has power in public life. So,
whether it's politicians, you know, CDC people, doctors, hospital administrators,
you got to run the perfect stress test on whether
somebody has reasonable, decent judgment and can process new information
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or not. So yeah, no, Aaron Rodgers, Dude, I've already
told you I'm a big fan of the Aaron Rodgers.
He was on I know, the Green Bay Packers. I'm like,
I know that, But didn't you play for another team too?
Didn't he go to the Jets or something? He's on
the Jets right now. Did you intro with the when
I said, I'm sorry, Jets fans, that's been a rough
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season for you bad. Yes, he was a Green Bay Packer.
I thought he was tired. No, he's like forty years
old and not had a good season tour his achilles
tendon last year. And if you're out there and you're saying,
why is Aaron Rodgers talking about vas status. It's because
he refused to get the COVID shot and everybody in
the sports media ripped him to the high heavens as
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if he were typhoid Mary out there trying to kill everyone,
and so he still hasn't forgotten about it. He's a
grudge guy, which I get a lot of people use
grudge and sports grudges as a method to fire themselves up.
But that discussion on ESPN, I actually I hadn't thought
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about it before. But can you think of a better
way in the last four years for a media member
to immediately tell you something and then you decide whether
or not you believe them. Look, they're democrats out there
that I think voted for Kamala Harris that are not
total morons. They're just committed to their team and they're
willing to do it. So voting status, I'm not to
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me how many COVID shots you got is actually far
more dispositive than who you voted for, you know, as
I was kind of sad, you know, just sitting there
fortunately drinking my Crocket Coffee Best Coffee Anywhere Cracket Coffee
dot Com. While Joe Scarborough is on the screen this
morning and Carrie is such a such a patient and
loving wife that she she lets me flip on this
(27:39):
Morning Joe. Sometimes even though she's just she feels like
it's she can't take it. She's like, I gotta go
to it. Noe. She goes and takes Ginger for a walk.
I've realized though, what the deal is with him and
a lot of others like him. It's almost like a
cartel lawyer, you know, like a lawyer for the cartels.
They'll do anything and say anything because this is the
job and that's it. And you know, if they got
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to bend the rules and be dishonest and whatever, fine,
whatever he's got to do, you know what I mean.
There's no ethos, honor, or integrity in this. It's just
making a buck. And if you have to look like
a jackass a lot of the time, that's the job.
So I don't even think it bothers him. Really, I
think he's at that level of media sociopath where just
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say whatever, you know. So the good news is don't
have to feel bad for miss Holidays. He's at him
or Mica. I wonder if they're gonna have dinner with
Trump again. Probably, I wonder if eventually he decides to go,
I mean, it depends on what that contract looks like.
From an MSNBC. Do I think that if Joe Scarborough
got an opportunity to become center right at News Nation
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or Newsmax. I don't think Fox would ever pick him up.
But you know it's some other network possibly that would
view him as star new His Nation wouldn't be too crazy,
I think as a possibility. Well, do I think that
all of a sudden he would go right of center
if that's where he thought the audience the money was. Absolutely,
I mean I would place bets on it. Absolutely. I mean, yeah,
go go go to the Chris Cuomo routine. Well, all of
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a sudden, you're like, yeah, you know, maybe I needed
to be more of a bro and like not actually
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movies are discussed. Although, Clay, I've heard a rumor, and
I guess it's not a rumor because it's from you,
So that's technically just firsthand that you are going to
see Gladiator two today? Is this correct? Not a Christmas movie?
But it is a Christmas release of Switt Yes, it
came out again Thanksgiving fair. I am highly suspect that
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this is gonna work out well, but I because I'm
with your wife, Laura says it's her favorite movie. It's
a yeah, Gladiator, not Gladiator too Gladiator for me, It's
definitely a top five movie it's an absolutely fantastic movie. It's
probably that's number two for me. I think Braveheart's number
one for favorite movies all time. How are you feeling
about this going into it? You know, I feel like
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it's like the pregame show for the movie you're gonna see. Well,
I feel like it's gonna be good, and I have
no idea. I haven't read the reviews. I'm going in
completely blind. I didn't realize I went to buy tickets.
You know, the Lion King Mufasa movie is coming out,
and I don't watch traditional media. I guess, so I
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missed a lot of knowing what movies are coming out
and everything else. And I only know because I went
into the movie theater to go buy tickets. I'm actually
kind of intrigued to see. For those of you who
have forgotten Mufasa is the evil lion and lion king,
that one actually seems like it's probably gonna dominate Mufasa.
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Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Yes, I know your power
zone pretension as weak as a war togs backside. I've
been thinking this totally wrong. I don't care about Mufasa.
I thought this was the scar I wanted the bad
guy of the Lion King. I've gotten that totally wrong. Yeah,
I'm glad you're there to correct me, because my phone
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would have been a disaster. You would have got on
Oh yeah, I mean that's confusing Mufasa and Scar. That's like,
that's like Darth Vader versus Luke. I mean, you gotta
know what's what you want to talk. I know what
the woke era is crazy. Do you remember that they
decided it was racist for a white person to be
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the voice of a lion because lions were from Africa.
Do you remember this discussion, John There was a lot
of discussion around the Lion King because I believe Whoopy
Goldberg voiced the hyena in The Lion King and Scar.
There was this whole thing. Scar was played by Jeremy Irons,
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but they said that there were people that said that
Jeremy Irons that it was anti LGBTQ because Scar didn't
have a femae, so Scar was a gay lion. There's
all this like social justice analysis of that. This This
might have been the craziest argument out there and I
think it's still still percolating. Jonathan Taylor Thomas, who was
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one of the kids from Home Alone was the voice
of Young Simba, which is Taylor Thomas was in Home Alone?
Did I say Home Alone? Yes, hold on Jonathan Taylor
Thomas Home Improvement. There was one of the kids from
Home Improvement. Yes, my pop culture bona fides are collapsing here.
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But he's a young white kid. He was the voice
of Young Simba. They said it was racist because lions
are from Africa to have white people as the voice
for cartoon lions. So when they have remade the Lion
King movies, they have insisted that only black people can
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voice the lions because otherwise it would be cultural appropriation.
This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.
So in theory, Buck, this would mean, like Kung Fu Panda,
it has to be a Chinese person who is doing
the voice of the panda, or else it would be
racist cultural appropriation. Right. You know what's funny is if
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you had somebody doing speaking in an English, speaking English
and having a Chinese accent, it would be considered the panda.
That would be super racist, yes, but to have a
white guy speaking just English as a panda also racist.
I'm starting to feel like Clay. No matter what there
are people gonna say that's kind of racist, but I'm
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never even Yes, that's one hundred percent the case. But
think about the idea being that the race of the
person who speaks for an animal has to be from
the same place. So if you are, for instance, if
there's a tie like Tony the Tiger back in the
day in frosted Flakes, if it weren't an Indian guy,
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it would be racist for the I mean, this is
what they were arguing, And this is what I was
thinking when I went in and I started to get
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Rand Paul of Kentucky, and he has floated this is
a wild one. He has floated the idea of Elon
Musk becoming Speaker of the House because you don't have
to actually be a member of Congress to be speaker.
We'll ask him about that more when we come back
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, our number two
Thursday edition. Hope all of you are having a fantastic
maybe early start to your Christmas season. As I know
many of you are going to be traveling soon if
you haven't started already, make sure you take us with
you wherever you go. My kids, Buck, are going to
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be arriving during the course of today's program, out for
at least two of them, out for the winter break.
So if you hear chaos in the next couple of days,
it's probably my kids playing what is now the greatest
selling video game of the year, the new EA Sports
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College Football game, which they obsessively play downstairs, and sometimes
I can hear them while I'm doing the show. So
they will now be out for Christmas. And if you
remember what it's like to be a kid and get
out for Christmas break, there are not very many better
feelings than getting out for Christmas breaking. How awesome that was, Buck,
when you finished the last feeling, it is really best feeling,
(01:04):
Absolutely fantastic. I love Christmas as a kid. My parents
always did a great job being sure we had a
really Christmasy feel in the home, and my mom's amazing
at decorating with the tree and all that on the
stockings and everything really gets into the Christmas spirit. What
is the greatest toy you ever remember getting as a kid.
Was there one thing where your your mind was just
completely blown? Oh? Man, that's a really good question. I
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think it would depend on age. I remember getting the
Ewalk play set from Star Wars if for those of
you out there who are around my age, they had
the Ewalk Village and I remember being super super impressed
by having the Ewalk Village to play with. I got
you Sega Saturn. We given a Sega Saturn when I
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was maybe I guess thirteen or something, twelve eleven thirteen,
they're probably thirteen, and I was the greatest Christmas gift
that I was the most excited about. But as a
as a kid, kid, like really young, those of you
who remember he Man the cartoon, probably a lot of you.
Castle Gray Schull. Oh that's a good too. I got
that too. That's an amazing yeah. Oh yeah. That was
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walking out there with my uh like Indiana Jones pajamas
with the feet built into them as a kid with
my brothers seeing Castle Gray Skull and it was the
coolest moment of my life up to that, you know,
five years or whatever, and uh yeah, phenomenal it. You
will soon be able to have what is really an
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awesome experience of as your kids start to get older,
giving them gifts and having their excitement kind of translate,
particularly really young kids when they wake up in that
joy of Santa having arrived overnight. And I know a
lot of you out there get to experience at both
his kids and I mean kids, then parents and then grandparents,
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which is super cool to be able to go through
that entire trajectory. But that is officially underway for a
lot of people holiday season. We want all of you
to say safe and we hope you're going to have
a fantastic time. I wanted to get into this because
I do think it's going to be significant in the
days and weeks and months ahead. The combination of Donald
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Trump and Elon Musk is maybe the greatest, most influential
partnership that I can remember between a politician and a
citizen who is just trying to advocate for the politician's goals.
Elon Must, I know he's doged, but he's not being
paid and otherwise he is not a member of the
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administration and official capacity, but he's incredibly influential. You saw
it just happen with the fifteen hundred page Omnibus Continuing Resolution.
Whatever you want to say, that the battle's going on
right now. What everyone needs to prepare themselves for is
Democrats are aware of how incredibly powerful this partnership is,
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and they are going to do everything they can to
try to make Donald Trump believe that Elon Musk is
the real power behind the throne and that Trump is
not actually pulling the strings. This is very calculated on
the part of left wing media. They recognize how strong
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the partnership is and they are going to do everything
they can to try to tear it down. Prepare yourselves
for it. I hope Caroline Levitt, who is just on
and other people who see Trump all the time, are
talking to him about what is going to be an
attempt to try to detract from that relationship because of
how successful it is. I give you that as a
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story that in the days of the weeks and months
is going to be very important because it is so
clear and calculated that the talking points have gone out
on this. This is the view earlier today Woope, Goldberg saying,
if I were Trump, I'd be nervous about walking around
the stairs given Elon Musk quest for power. Listen, who
is in charge? Because I've been saying.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It for a while, I've been saying that I think Elon.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Must believes he's president. I do. I called I've called
him vice president, I called him president because I don't
know what JD is doing. I hardly ever say I don't.
I don't remember last time we even talked about JD.
You're right, he's planning the presidency when he gonna get
rid of Trump. So you think it's Musk and Musk Vance? Hey,
(05:35):
you know who stay away from the stairways. People put
the leg out to trip people going down the stairs.
Watch out, all right? So trying to make a joke,
Oh look, Trump's gonna get killed because JD. Vance and
Elon Musk are really the powers behind the throne. This
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is going to become, if it hasn't already, the primary
to talking point of left wing media. They recognized that
X under Elon Musk is would you agree with this? Buck?
I think you probably would. The most powerful media platform
out there right now and the most influential I don't
think there's even a close second right now. It's what
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the Internet is supposed to be, which is a place
where you have, you know, when you come to communications
and exchange of ideas. The promise of the Internet was
instant connectivity and freedom. And Twitter became a social justice
activist censorship entity. That was its primary mission and it
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wasn't even like a thing that it was doing. That
was what it was really doing. Eglon has transformed it
back to what the initial promise. I remember Twitter in
the early days play so to you, it was like
the Wild West. And then over time, really what happened
was Trump used it so effectively in twenty sixteen and
they started tightening the screws and tightening the screws. They
couldn't allow that to continue. So yes, I think that
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x is the most media platform in the digital space
out there right now. And I think that Elon and
look the fact that Bezos is sitting down with Trump
as well. I don't know what I would I'll tell
you this, Clay, for the first time, looking across the
ideological battlefield at our opponents in media on the Democrat side,
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I don't even know how I would advise them right
now because they're in such a desperate strait. It's like
they're the army that's shown up with no AMMO, no shoes,
no strategy, and no generals, like they have no idea
what's going on? Well, I think what you're seeing on
the left right now is there are a lot of
people with platforms, not a lot of people with audience.
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Yes that matters, right, Like, Okay, so if you're Anderson Cooper,
you can go on CNN as you have for twenty
some odd years. But as soon as you're off CNN,
nobody really cares about to Anderson Cooper. So you're spot on.
But let me push you to the next level of this.
Then what would you tell like, if you were a
consultant for the DNC in the media space right now,
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what is there? You know? What is there? So? What like?
What if you're trying to build What I'm saying is
if you were taking over C and that or something,
what is their message even supposed to be? I don't
know how you go from this guy is Hitler to
the country's doing great and the most important people in
business in the world love this guy and are sitting
down with him and everything's looking cool so far. You
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know what, Yeah, I say, you know my points. I
had too many beers fifteen years ago. Like, what have
they got? They've lit themselves on fire, nobody believes them anymore,
and here is the the next step on this. I
don't even know who I would say is the most
effective spokesperson for the left of center arguments right now. Historically,
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I would said Rachel Maddow. And i'm historically I mean
the last seven, eight, ten years. But she's lit herself
on fire and she's only on one day a week,
and she seems to have burned herself out. I can
give you a lot of people on the right who
I think are effective, and maybe centrists that are really
effective and their audience trusts them and their audience will
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follow them. Who is that person on the left? I
can't even tell you. Let's just put it this way, buck,
If I were in the agent business and I were
getting ten percent of somebody on the left's earnings for
the next five years during the Trump era, I don't
even know who i'd want to represent, because I think
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they're talented enough to cut through the noise and actually
be really relevant. Can you even think like, who would
on the left would you want? Like, there's people make
a lot of money, Rachel Maddow, But I feel like
she's peaked. And I can't even point you to someone
that is of the left that I would s say, Boy,
their audience loves them. They have a real runway here.
(10:04):
They can be incredibly influential in the opposition to Trump
during his second term. I can't even tell you who
that person is. I That's what I'm That's why I'm
asking you, right, That's the point is that there really
doesn't seem to be a you know, a team ready
to go. You know, I'll give you an example, I
think of what's happening right now or kind of the
(10:25):
dynamic at play. Barack Obama came along two thousand and eight,
was what was the key thing? Why was he able
to beat Hillary Clinton? Other than being like, you know,
more more likable and better on the stump and everything.
He didn't vote for the Iraq War. Now, he wasn't
in the Senate to vote for it at the time,
but he wasn't automatically tied to what the country had
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decided was a disastrous policy. Right now, the media of
the Democrat corporate media all went all in on Trump
will lose. He's a threat to democracy. He is Hitler.
And I think what we're both picking up on is
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they all went down with that ship. I don't know
who you know, I don't know who the voice is
on the left who you can't just immediately mock. And
then when you add in and this is the front
page of the Wall Street Journal today, the Biden Hiden,
Biden's decline. They have no credibility. It's it's a massacre
out there for left wing media for their own audiences.
(11:29):
Because here's the unpardonable, here's the unforgivable. And I'm talking
about this like I'm a Democrat now, so maybe I
should like totally like change my vice. You guys all
know that I'm like a democrat now. That's how democrats
all sound. I don't know if you know that, Clay.
They they are at a point now where they've been
so wrong. It has been so clear that they have
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humiliated their own audience. And that's what's unforgivable. Are people
are extended radio family get to tune into us every day.
And yes, of course we always say we speak the truth.
We do the best we can try to carry on
Rush's legacy. We're so thankful for this platform. But everyone
can tune into us and know these guys were right
(12:13):
and they shot straight with us the whole time. And
you know, that's an earned credibility that we have for
what we do. And we appreciate so many of you,
millions of you listening. But that's the truth we have.
If you were doing the other thing on the Democrat side,
your own audience and this is why I found the
Morning Joe thinks so fascinating. Your own audience is tuning
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in going You made me look like a moron to
all of my friends and everyone, you know at the
cocktail parties this holiday season or you know a little
earlier in the holiday season, but you know going into Thanksgiving,
Trump's gonna lose. He's Hitler. No he's not, and know
he isn't You know that that's the fundamental challenge they have.
They humiliated their own audience. Totally true. And you know
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what sometimes is worse than love or hate, which in
the media business can provoke reaction. Right, you either love
somebody you hate somebody. To me, it feels like a
lot of MSNBC and CNN viewers are actually indifferent. They're
just tuning out. If you go look at their numbers,
fifty percent of their audience has effectively vanished. And that
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means they're not even angry at the host anymore, because
at least, if you're angry at somebody, you might still
care what they say. I think it was Proust Marcel
Prus here he probably didn't expect to get him quoted today,
who basically said, the worst indignity is not hating I'm paraphrasing,
is not hating someone. It is being totally indifferent to
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their existence. And you really think about it. At least
when you hate somebody, it's the other side of the
coin of love, right you're still emotionally reacting to them.
Just being totally indifferent to them is the cold cruel
hand of reality that MSNBC and that CNN right now
have I will make this prediction a twenty twenty five,
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you know, because this is male like Clay's taking. You
got solo tomorrow. Then, as we said, next week, got
some great guest host special shows. So this is my
last show for twenty twenty four. A prediction in twenty
twenty five about who will emerge. Wes Moore of Maryland
is going to become the premier Democrat political brand. Just watch.
It'll take a little time, and Gavin Newson's going to
(14:19):
try to elbow in there like the slimy communist he is.
But Wes Moore is going to emerge, I think as
a top contender. And I think he's going to shove
Kamala Harris aside because she's I'm a little surprised she's
staying in the game more than we anticipate, at least
for right now. We'll see if that changes. Wes Moore,
to your point, is actually a huge football fan, and
(14:40):
he was at the Army Navy game which was being
played in Maryland. He's a governor of Maryland and he
was photoed shaking hands and hanging out with Trump. I
thought it was an interesting move by him. He's a
combat veteran, he likes football. He's he's a Democrat. Everybody so,
but he comes across as as you know, very authentic
(15:02):
and like an actual guy instead of a guy from
Minnesota who came across like some Democrat focus group version
of you know, being a guys guy. So Wes Moore,
I think you're gonna see it. Remember this prediction. In
twenty twenty five, Wes Moore will emerge as the big
Democrat name. Look as good as we're feeling about everything
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I was getting so into my Christmas tunes there I
(16:49):
realize we're doing a live radio show. It's not just
like listening to Christmas music and start thinking about what's
going to go under the tree. It might be some
lumps of coal for the lobbyists in DC. Clay, we'll
talk to Senator Rand Paul about the Cramnibus, which I
like saying. It's just sort of fun to say the
(17:10):
Cramnibus bill. It reminds me a little bit of the Crampus,
which is this Northern European tradition of is that the Yeah,
it's like the scary center, right, you know I'm talking
about that. Yeah, I think you're right. We'll have some fun.
By the way, So this is your last show of
the year, we come back. I've got a clip for
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you that I don't think you're gonna have her. You're
right about Crampus. Crampus is a horned and this is
just from Wikipedia. Anthropomorphic figure in Central and Eastern Alpine
folkloric tradition said to accompany Saint Nicholas on visits to children.
So he's like the scary Santa. If you've been naughty,
we'll talk about something that I think you're gonna love.
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How do you know who to trust in media? Your
boy Aaron Rodgers has an idea. I want to play
this cut for you. I bet you haven't heard it.
And like you said, we'll talk with Rampaul in a
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buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
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Buck I got an audio clip that I want to
play for you, and I got to give credit to
Aaron Rodgers, who is not having a good season as
the New York Jets quarterback. Frankly, nobody associated with the
Jets is having a good season. I'm sorry for our
wor listeners out there who came in with some optimism
in the Jets season. But he did say this the
(19:19):
other day on ESPN. This is from Pat McAfee's show,
and he said, you know how they will have like
your credentials on the screen when you're a media analyst,
it might say you know Buck Sexton of the Clay
and Buck Show or Clay Travis Clay and Buck Show
might say OutKick, like, whatever your credentials are. When Aaron
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Rodgers is on ESPN, pretty good credentials. Super Bowl MVP
and four time NFL MVP, I think is on the screen.
So when he's talking about playing quarterback, you might not
agree with him, but it's like, boom, here are my credentials.
He said he wants everybody in media to have to
say how many COVID shots they've gotten, and then you
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can just look at that and determine how much credence
or credibility you want to give to it. And honestly,
I don't know if you can come up with another one.
But in this era, you know, I don't really use
where you went to college as a proxy for how
intelligent you are, or even if you went to college,
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if you're like Elon Musk or or Jeff Bezos and
you found companies like I do give a lot of
credit to that. That's not easy to do. But if
you told me you can only know one thing about
everybody on television talking about any issue under the sun,
knowing how many COVID shots they got actually is not
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an awful idea. Here's Aaron Rodgers making the case. Listen.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I know I got to say this multiple times for
people because they don't listen. But say whatever you want
about me.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But just before you do it, whether you state your name,
your calcolades, pronouns, whatever it is, just states your back
sets so that anything you say afterwards gets put in
the right Leight. Just get it out there, because then
when you say things about me, people can at least
be like, oh, you are captured by the multi billion
(21:14):
dollar propagandist and you're still upset about Just so everybody
knows where you're coming. Everybody knows, Okay, cool, you're twice
vacs Maderna with three booster shots. And then say what
you want to say whatever. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
What do you think? I actually think it's kind of genius.
Doesn't that tell you a great deal in the wake
of COVID about how much for you and me? I
think it would tell everybody? For us personally, I think
it tells you a lot. Wouldn't that impact how you
would consider someone's opinion on a variety of subjects. It's perfection.
He's a very shrewd fellow, it's a brilliant test and
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I totally agree with his assessment here, and yeah, I
would love to know. I mean, for example, the craziest
people in the media were the last one still saying
things like I've gotten my seventh booster. But remember Scarborough
was like I would have been really sick with COVID
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if I hadn't already had eight shots. Do you remember
when we remember playing that clip like if you got
more than two, like maybe if you're eighty five, like
my dad's eighty, my mom is eighty two, eighty as well,
can I can I tell you go ahead? Go ahead?
I was gonna say, I I maybe understand you getting
more than two shots for anyone that is younger than fifty.
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If you got more than two COVID shots, I don't
trust your opinion on anything, honestly, because you were just
a sheep and you were just bleeding your way to
go to the pharmacist and just keep getting shot up
with a worthless shot. I think it's actually brilliant. If
I found out that you got five COVID shots, I'm
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not taking your opinion on anything serious. I think that's
a sound policy. Also, if you are not angry about
mask and I mean angry about mask mandates, not even
that you didn't think they were necessarily a great idea,
if you don't think that mask mandates were a moronic
and tyrannical and pointless epidemiologically, although very useful for control reasons.
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I don't trust some I don't trust someone's judgment on
matters of policy or life who does not see what
a catastrophe the whole mask thing was and what an
absolute disgrace to the whole public health universe it was.
And I also note doctors who still kind of be like, well,
I'm a doctor, and so I you're not a very
smart doctor. I don't care where he went to school. Yeah,
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I agree, And I've made hiring decisions where I've been
more likely by far to hire somebody at my companies
based on whether you were like, hey, I didn't get
a COVID shot. In fact, I'm kind of impressed when
people say, hey, because of where I live, I went
and got a fake COVID vax card. I've heard that
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a bunch from people in our industry. I've never want
to blow anyone up on this, obviously, because technically it's
very illegal. I knew so many people who had fake
COVID cards, so many people who had fake COVID cards.
That's all I can say. That's all I can say
about not gonna blow even under duress, Clay I would
not name names, but yeah, a lot of people had
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fake COVID shot cards in New York City. I'm willing
to give you the first two shots because again I
understand not everybody did the math and understood things well,
and it's easy to fall into hype. But after the
first two shots didn't work, if you went and got
a booster, I can't trust your opinion on anything. It's
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basically an intelligence test, and god forbid you got more
than one booster, you are a moron. And if you're
in the opinion business, I can't trust your opinion on anything.
So I give credit to Aaron Rodgers. I had never
thought of this before. But if you had to come
on and say, hey, I'm so and so I got
six shots, I'd be like, yep, I'm not even listening
to anything else after that. Well, this is why, to
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be fair, we've had a version of this test that
we've discussed on the show for a while, which pertains
to politicians, public figures, and how somebody acted throughout the fullness.
You know, the entirety of COVID was the perfect simulation
of what their judgment is like, their level of honesty,
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their level of courage or lack of all of those
things as somebody who has power in public life. So,
whether it's politicians, you know, CDC people, doctors, hospital administrators,
you got to run the perfect stress test on whether
somebody has reasonable, decent judgment and can process new information
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or not. So yeah, no, Aaron Rodgers, Dude, I've already
told you I'm a big fan of the Aaron Rodgers.
He was on I know, the Green Bay Packers. I'm like,
I know that, But didn't you play for another team too?
Didn't he go to the Jets or something? He's on
the Jets right now. Did you intro with the when
I said, I'm sorry, Jets fans, that's been a rough
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season for you bad. Yes, he was a Green Bay Packer.
I thought he was tired. No, he's like forty years
old and not had a good season tour his achilles
tendon last year. And if you're out there and you're saying,
why is Aaron Rodgers talking about vas status. It's because
he refused to get the COVID shot and everybody in
the sports media ripped him to the high heavens as
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if he were typhoid Mary out there trying to kill everyone,
and so he still hasn't forgotten about it. He's a
grudge guy, which I get a lot of people use
grudge and sports grudges as a method to fire themselves up.
But that discussion on ESPN, I actually I hadn't thought
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about it before. But can you think of a better
way in the last four years for a media member
to immediately tell you something and then you decide whether
or not you believe them. Look, they're democrats out there
that I think voted for Kamala Harris that are not
total morons. They're just committed to their team and they're
willing to do it. So voting status, I'm not to
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me how many COVID shots you got is actually far
more dispositive than who you voted for, you know, as
I was kind of sad, you know, just sitting there
fortunately drinking my Crocket Coffee Best Coffee Anywhere Cracket Coffee
dot Com. While Joe Scarborough is on the screen this
morning and Carrie is such a such a patient and
loving wife that she she lets me flip on this
(27:39):
Morning Joe. Sometimes even though she's just she feels like
it's she can't take it. She's like, I gotta go
to it. Noe. She goes and takes Ginger for a walk.
I've realized though, what the deal is with him and
a lot of others like him. It's almost like a
cartel lawyer, you know, like a lawyer for the cartels.
They'll do anything and say anything because this is the
job and that's it. And you know, if they got
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to bend the rules and be dishonest and whatever, fine,
whatever he's got to do, you know what I mean.
There's no ethos, honor, or integrity in this. It's just
making a buck. And if you have to look like
a jackass a lot of the time, that's the job.
So I don't even think it bothers him. Really, I
think he's at that level of media sociopath where just
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say whatever, you know. So the good news is don't
have to feel bad for miss Holidays. He's at him
or Mica. I wonder if they're gonna have dinner with
Trump again. Probably, I wonder if eventually he decides to go,
I mean, it depends on what that contract looks like.
From an MSNBC. Do I think that if Joe Scarborough
got an opportunity to become center right at News Nation
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or Newsmax. I don't think Fox would ever pick him up.
But you know it's some other network possibly that would
view him as star new His Nation wouldn't be too crazy,
I think as a possibility. Well, do I think that
all of a sudden he would go right of center
if that's where he thought the audience the money was. Absolutely,
I mean I would place bets on it. Absolutely. I mean, yeah,
go go go to the Chris Cuomo routine. Well, all of
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a sudden, you're like, yeah, you know, maybe I needed
to be more of a bro and like not actually
such a whimp. You know. Yeah, there you go, true
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It is the Christmas Seals. Itll take some of your
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movies are discussed. Although, Clay, I've heard a rumor, and
I guess it's not a rumor because it's from you,
So that's technically just firsthand that you are going to
see Gladiator two today? Is this correct? Not a Christmas movie?
But it is a Christmas release of Switt Yes, it
came out again Thanksgiving fair. I am highly suspect that
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this is gonna work out well, but I because I'm
with your wife, Laura says it's her favorite movie. It's
a yeah, Gladiator, not Gladiator too Gladiator for me, It's
definitely a top five movie it's an absolutely fantastic movie. It's
probably that's number two for me. I think Braveheart's number
one for favorite movies all time. How are you feeling
about this going into it? You know, I feel like
(32:00):
it's like the pregame show for the movie you're gonna see. Well,
I feel like it's gonna be good, and I have
no idea. I haven't read the reviews. I'm going in
completely blind. I didn't realize I went to buy tickets.
You know, the Lion King Mufasa movie is coming out,
and I don't watch traditional media. I guess, so I
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missed a lot of knowing what movies are coming out
and everything else. And I only know because I went
into the movie theater to go buy tickets. I'm actually
kind of intrigued to see. For those of you who
have forgotten Mufasa is the evil lion and lion king,
that one actually seems like it's probably gonna dominate Mufasa.
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Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Yes, I know your power
zone pretension as weak as a war togs backside. I've
been thinking this totally wrong. I don't care about Mufasa.
I thought this was the scar I wanted the bad
guy of the Lion King. I've gotten that totally wrong. Yeah,
I'm glad you're there to correct me, because my phone
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would have been a disaster. You would have got on
Oh yeah, I mean that's confusing Mufasa and Scar. That's like,
that's like Darth Vader versus Luke. I mean, you gotta
know what's what you want to talk. I know what
the woke era is crazy. Do you remember that they
decided it was racist for a white person to be
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the voice of a lion because lions were from Africa.
Do you remember this discussion, John There was a lot
of discussion around the Lion King because I believe Whoopy
Goldberg voiced the hyena in The Lion King and Scar.
There was this whole thing. Scar was played by Jeremy Irons,
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but they said that there were people that said that
Jeremy Irons that it was anti LGBTQ because Scar didn't
have a femae, so Scar was a gay lion. There's
all this like social justice analysis of that. This This
might have been the craziest argument out there and I
think it's still still percolating. Jonathan Taylor Thomas, who was
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one of the kids from Home Alone was the voice
of Young Simba, which is Taylor Thomas was in Home Alone?
Did I say Home Alone? Yes, hold on Jonathan Taylor
Thomas Home Improvement. There was one of the kids from
Home Improvement. Yes, my pop culture bona fides are collapsing here.
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But he's a young white kid. He was the voice
of Young Simba. They said it was racist because lions
are from Africa to have white people as the voice
for cartoon lions. So when they have remade the Lion
King movies, they have insisted that only black people can
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voice the lions because otherwise it would be cultural appropriation.
This is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.
So in theory, Buck, this would mean, like Kung Fu Panda,
it has to be a Chinese person who is doing
the voice of the panda, or else it would be
racist cultural appropriation. Right. You know what's funny is if
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you had somebody doing speaking in an English, speaking English
and having a Chinese accent, it would be considered the panda.
That would be super racist, yes, but to have a
white guy speaking just English as a panda also racist.
I'm starting to feel like Clay. No matter what there
are people gonna say that's kind of racist, but I'm
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never even Yes, that's one hundred percent the case. But
think about the idea being that the race of the
person who speaks for an animal has to be from
the same place. So if you are, for instance, if
there's a tie like Tony the Tiger back in the
day in frosted Flakes, if it weren't an Indian guy,
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it would be racist for the I mean, this is
what they were arguing, And this is what I was
thinking when I went in and I started to get
my tickets for Gladiator too. By the way, go get
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come back. We are scheduled to be joined by Senator
Rand Paul of Kentucky, and he has floated this is
a wild one. He has floated the idea of Elon
Musk becoming Speaker of the House because you don't have
to actually be a member of Congress to be speaker.
We'll ask him about that more when we come back
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