March 26, 2025 • 36 mins
The Dean of American Journalists, Bill O'Reilly, on how he would handle the Signal scandal, his grade for President Trump, and the future of the Democrat Party leadership. Bill's upcoming book "Confronting Evil" and his Three American Live show with Stephen A. Smith and Chris Cuomo is this Sunday and tickets are still available. They delved into the Signal chat controversy, asserting that the incident is not a scandal but an embarrassing mistake. The hosts and O'Reilly then debated the ethics of journalists accessing sensitive information and the potential consequences for national security. The conversation then shifted to President Trump's performance in his second term. O'Reilly graded Trump on various aspects, giving him high marks for border control and deportations but a lower grade for tariffs. They also discussed the potential for a ceasefire in Ukraine and the future of the Democratic Party, with O'Reilly criticizing figures like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Finally, the hosts touched on the decline of Disney, particularly the failure of the Snow White remake. They humorously debated who should have been cast as Snow White, with Clay suggesting Sidney Sweeney and Buck emphasizing the importance of casting a truly beautiful actress. The hour wrapped up with a discussion on body positivity and the impact of Ozempic on Hollywood's beauty standards.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the program.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We'll take some of your calls.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We'll continue to react to everything, and we bring in
now our good friend Bill O'Reilly. Next book comes out
in September, Confronting Evil, Assessing the worst of the Worst,
and he's got a Three Americans live show with Stephen A.
Smith and Chris Cuomo in Westbury, New York. It is
this Sunday. Tickets available at Bill O'Reilly dot com. Bill,
(00:33):
we appreciate you coming on. All right, How big of
a story do you think the signal controversy is? How
long does it go on? What is your analysis right now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation, so we
know what happened. You know, Wall sinadvertently screwed up his
communications on this inner site, and this weasel Jeffrey Goldberg
got on the site and got the information. Big mistake,
(01:07):
not a scandal. If I were President Trump, I wouldn't
fire anybody, certainly embarrassing. If it happens again, then he
has to fire a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I think that's totally correct, though I totally agree with that. Bill,
Thanks for being here with us. The one part of
this that I think is interesting is or are There
a few things that have come out of this, but
one of them is what do you think are the
ethics of a journalist in this case getting access? Do
(01:39):
you think that he plays the I'm a journalist, so
I should just find out whatever I can card or
given that it's national security, which by his own admission
is high level stuff impending strike, he should have ducked
out of it. I mean, what do you think is
the right move? Quite honestly, if you were advising somebody
who came to you and said, hey, I'm in this
chat and they're talking about stuff they shouldn't, what would
(02:01):
you tell them to do?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All right? As the dean of American journalism, that's me
fifty years this year in the business, getting paid fifty years,
So I'm appointing myself the dean of American journalism. If
it were me and I got on a thread accidentally
as a reporter, I would take notes, all right. I
(02:28):
would get the information because that's what reporters do. And Goldberg,
I don't think did anything deceitful, but I'm not entirely sure,
and I'm gonna make a point about that in the moment.
But as far as a reporter is concerned, his or
her duty is to assemble information, and this would be
(02:50):
something that drops in your lap and you're going, WHOA,
I'm gonna listen to this, okay, So that's not any
kind of violation of journalistic ethics or anything else. Then
you have to decide what to do with the information
now here it becomes a little bit murky. If lives
are in danger, if military actions compromise, certainly you cannot
(03:15):
release it cannot until after the fact. And I believe
that's what Goldberg did. So this all happened on March fifteenth, right,
so he was shutting a fine line, no doubt, And
the FBI should be interviewing him. I don't know what
cash Ftel is, but agents should have interviewed him on Monday,
(03:40):
just to find out, you know, what the deuce happened? Right?
Does that make sense? Everybody? Why wouldn't you be Jeffrey
Goldberg be interviewed by the FBI. I don't believe that's happened.
That has Nobody knows about it it should. Finally, the
the importance of the story is that if you are
(04:05):
going to depend on the Internet for vital national security communications,
the Chinese and Russians are going to be your best friends.
So all these people should have known better, all of them.
It's a lot of inexperience in that national security room,
as we all know, and I pointed that out before
these appointments were made. So there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So what do you think? You said, you think the
story's basically over.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
President Trump certainly has no love lost for the national
security experts out there, demanding that people be fired after
they raided his home and tried to put him in
prison for the rest of his life for classified documents.
Trump seems to be totally behind his team right now.
Through sixty days, there have been very few leagues. I mean,
(04:55):
this was, as Buck and I have talked about, not
only an error, but an error that actually was probably
the worst person you could have put on the text thread,
right because I don't think most people would have behaved
in the way necessarily that Jeffrey Goldberg has. But we're
through sixty days. You think this story is going to
(05:16):
go away? What grade would you give President Trump? Bill
O'Reilly right now through the first couple of months of
Trump two point zero.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Okay, so you're not just grading him on this incident,
you're grading him on correct the performance. So I actually
have asked this question on Stephen A. Smith podcast Monday,
and thank you for mentioning the live show that we're
doing on Sunday at Westbury Long Island. And I give
Trump various grades. So he gives an A plus on
(05:49):
the border, Yep, he gets a B plus on the
deportations of criminal aliens. I think that Holman, who I
had on my program and then it Spin News yesterday,
it's got to be a little bit more methodical about
who's getting booted out of here and why, So I
(06:11):
better it might be plus the tariffs, I'm giving them
a C and an incomplete because we do not know
how that's going to work out, and it's spooked the
stock market, so some people got hurt in the short term.
I tell all my listeners and viewers do not react
to political things in a stock market. Just ride it out.
(06:34):
And there is information, by the way, that is coming
in the I think it was one of the Arab states,
Gulf States investing a trillion dollars in American economy, and
that's not reported by the corrupt press. So there is
big money coming into the United States which will bolster
(06:57):
the economy. But right now people are confused about tariffs.
It is a confusing situation, and so I'm giving them
a c there as far as overall demeanor is concerned.
As you guys probably know, I was in a cabinet
meeting in the White House on Saint Patrick's day. He
was totally in command. I think he's doing the right
thing with Putin, even though Putin is on the cover
(07:19):
of my upcoming book Confronting Evil. Putin is evil, but
you got to deal with evils sometimes. And I think
they're going to get some kind of seas fire in
Ukraine that's big. So overall, I would say President Trump
is having a successful launch into his second term.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
We're trying to bill O'Reilly. Oh sorry, I just want't
bill out. I want to ask you. You mentioned the
live show coming up with Stephen A. There's a different
kind of live show that's been happening lately, a road
show of sorts with Bernie Sanders and AOC. It's like
the Socialist Elder statesman trying to pass the torch to
the woke radical leftist. You know, this is this the
(08:04):
future of the Democrat Party? You think, are they going
to lead into this? You know, well, how do you
see that playing out? Because they have, as we've discussed
with you before, the bench. They can tell us all
day it's strong. Their bench is not strong right now.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, if they continue on this way, and you're throw
in Maxine Waters saying that Malania Trump may not be
a citizen. You throw in that Crockett woman in Texas
who is mocking Greg Abbott in a wheelchair. You put
that all in one soup bowl, and Americans are going
(08:43):
this party is disintegrating. With a thirty percent approval rating,
You're going to have two communists go out and do
a tour. Sanders is a hardcore communist. He wants to
see his private property. Oh, Cassio Cortez, I don't think
understands the difference between socialism and communism. Could be wrong,
and I don't want to be super silly as word
(09:04):
of the day. She went to the same college I
went to Boston University. But I don't think she understands
economics at all. I think she's just a trendy person
who goes and says what she thinks a radical left
followers want to hear. But Saters is a dangerous man.
He's dangerous And I don't know whether most Americans understand
(09:25):
that Uncle Bernie is a hardcore communist, but certainly when
you promote a wealth tax where the government would come
into your home and seize private property under the guise
of taxation, you're a communist. That's what communism is. So
the Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of
(09:47):
those four people, then it's done.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't know if you saw this, Lebron James, since
you were going to be with Steven A.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Smith and you just did his podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Lebron James just went on ESPN and really kind of
took a two by four to Steven A.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't know if you saw this, but he mocked
him over the way that he has You know, they
had a confrontation of sorts on the court, and he
mocked him over the way that he has covered it.
You have seen Steven A. Smith be engaging more and
more in politics. Do you buy the idea that he
(10:29):
might ever do anything in terms of actually running for office.
You're doing this tour with him now, I'm sure you'll
talk about the Lebron feud a little bit, But what
is his end game here? He's now got one hundred
million dollar contract from ESPN. He's gonna theoretically have more
money than he could theoretically spend. I say theoretically because
there's a lot of people out there who have made
(10:50):
a hundred million dollars crazily and end up going bankrupt somehow.
So that's still out there. But what do you think
the next move for steven a is, Well, he's.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Run for politics anytime soon. He's in his fifties. When
he gets in his sixties, who probably have enough of
calling Cleveland Cavalier games? And maybe he'll say way, And
he's a very smart guy. I think he's honest. I've
seen nothing to the contrary. I'm going to take his
measure on Sunday. You know, Cuomo and Smith, they better
(11:23):
be on their game. They're coming up against me, the
Dan of American journalism, self appointed of course. But anyway,
Lebron James, when he was yelling at Stephen A. Smith
initially was doing so as a father. And I understand
that because Smith mocked his son, Bronnie James, who might
(11:47):
not be ready for prime time yet is on the Lakers.
It is a NEPO situation, but I understand that by
yelling at Smith on the sideline that then lebron James
pulled his growing and was out for two weeks. So
maybe maybe that's something. But you know, these kinds of feuds,
(12:08):
a lot of them are artificial and they help the feuders. Yes,
lebron James is an attention junkie loves it, and I
think steven A likes the attention as well.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Bill, do you still have some tickets to sell for
this live event? Where do folks go to get them?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, it's it's a really nice crowd, but we
just released fifteen VIP tickets where after the show you
get to meet me and Cuomo and Smith. Now why
anyone would want to do that, I don't know, but
they sold out fast than first, so we scrounged up
fifteen more and then we you know, Westbrook, I don't
(12:46):
know if you guys have been there. It's really a
good theater. It's not a bad seat in the place.
It's got a big audio visual and I already have
the topics that we're going to talk about with the
Q and A from the audience. It's going to be
a lot of fun and rot. They're gonna be serious
things that we mentioned as well. So if anybody wants
(13:07):
a good afternoon Sunday afternoon, go to Bill O'Reilly dot
com link. You're right over ticket master whispering music fare
all of that. And I appreciate you guys, mentioned he
it's very kind of you to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Keep up the good work. Am I what?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Sorry, that's what happens. You got two guys doing this sometimes.
He said, keep up the good work. And I said,
we appreciate you coming on. Uncle Bill always welcome here.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I appreciate you having me, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's Bill O'Reilly.
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Speaker 1 (15:25):
On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome.
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
So we have an update here from Secretary of Defense Hegseeth,
our friend Pete Hegseth, who has weighed in on this situation.
And here's the here's the latest from Pete Hegseth. Clay
tell everybody how he's responding on this whole signal issue.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He Pete Hegseth just tweeted, Let's get this straight. The
Atlantic released the so called war plans, and those plans
include no names, no targets, no locations, no units, no routes,
no sources, no methods, and no classified information. Those are
some really crappy. He did not use that word or plans.
(16:13):
This only proves one thing. Jeff Goldberg has never seen
a war plan or an attack plan as he now
calls it, not even close. As I type this, my
team and I are traveling the Indo pacificcom region, meeting
with commanders, the guys who make real war plans, and
talking to troops. We will continue to do our job
(16:34):
while the media does what it does best pedal hoaxes.
That is Pete Hagseth responding to the latest story from
the Atlantic. Here's what I would say, Buck, I don't
know what the Atlantic still has back on the on
the so called storyline, because they now have published multiple
(16:54):
stories on this. A part of that, certainly, I would
think the uh Trump team knows exactly what was said
on the text chain. The general rule, I will say
is this, get ahead of the story. Don't allow it
to continue to come out in dribs and drabs. I
hope this is the end of it, but they are
(17:15):
intentionally dragging it out. It seems to me at the
Atlantic to get as much attention as they possibly can.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right and as I said, my concern along has been
that they'll catch them in a lie.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is always what you have to be aware of
in these situations.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Right, they have information, they're saying that it has the
following the rejection of the assertions from Tulci, Gabber and
Heckseeth and others opens up the possibility they get blindsided
with something. But I think they got to know what
he has because they were the ones in the text chat,
so I don't think they would be that silly. And
like I said, I think this is the last day
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program.
By the way, major League Baseball comes back tomorrow. I
wanted to hit something that we had a big conversation
about yesterday and you and I were just talking about it, Buck,
the way that Disney has totally lost its connection with
large segments of the American population. You and I were
(19:20):
looking during the commercial break, and I've got it pulled
up on my phone on the stocks app. I don't
want to sound like Tim Walls here, but if you
had bought Disney stock on in July of twenty fifteen,
so it's basically a decade ago, the stock price was
around one hundred and twenty dollars a share. Today, ten
(19:43):
years later, the stock price is around one hundred dollars
a share, so you would have lost, not even factoring
in inflation twenty percent, roughly stock valuation at a time
when the stock market it itself has more than doubled.
Now you may have made some money back on dividends,
(20:05):
but I bet a lot of you out there have
Disney stock in your four to oh one k's or
if you buy like I do, S and P five
hundred index funds. Disney is one of the five hundred
biggest companies in the world, so you're going to have
some exposure to this company. We talked about this in
the context of the snow White movie, where Woke Disney
(20:28):
is collapsing. They're going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars,
and you and I had a conversation where there's something
about the casting that just didn't make sense. And I
think if they had just let you and me actually
make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a
billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions
(20:49):
of dollars. And if you think that's crazy, as we
told you yesterday, the original animated snow White, released in
nineteen thirty seven, made four billion dollars in modern day dollars,
so it basically funded the Disney Corporation and made it
the huge success that it was in Walt Disney's era. Now,
(21:10):
my wife, last night, we're driving back from dinner and
we went to a songwriter event, which was really fun.
Ten Pans South, one of the events that they do
here in town where everybody explains how they came to
write the songs that they did. Very cool in Nashville.
And my wife said, I think you're wrong about who
should have been cast as snow White. She said, Rachel
(21:32):
Zegler clearly the wrong choice. And then we got into
my big thing, which is Gal Gadot is actually better
looking than Rachel Zegler. You can't have you agree with
me on that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Well, yeah, but I think she's too old to be
snow White. Isn't snow White supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
But sorry, you all back. I'm fired up about this.
I really am fired enough about this. But taking you
back to the nineteen thirty seven snow White, the entire
pro of Snow White is that snow White has replaced
the evil stepmother as the fairest in all the land.
(22:09):
So I don't buy off the face that Gal Gadot
is worse looking than snow White. Right, So the entire
premise of the movie doesn't happen if the evil step
queen Stepmother Queen is it is actually still better looking
than snow White.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But I said, I think I said it on the air.
I know I tweeted.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It that Sidney Sweeney should have been cast as snow White.
My wife says that this is me being clouded by
Sidney Sweeney's boobs. She says that Sidney Sweeney is far
too buxom to use a word that will probably make
Buck Sexton happy, far too buxom to have actually played
(22:51):
snow White. So it got me thinking, I'm sure that
we're going to be deluged right now. Who would have been?
I would stick to my Sidney Sweeney choice. I think
it would have been excellent. I think the movie would
have made a billion dollars, and I think that she
would be a fabulous snow White. My wife says, I
am beclouded potentially by Sidney Sweeney's de celatage. I'm trying
(23:15):
to use as many different words for boobs as I
can here, buck, who would have been a better choice?
And I pushed back against my wife.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I said, you.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Remember, Lindsey Lohan made a lot of money in those
Herbie and the love Bug movies back in the day,
and she was quite the bucks some last and it
was not considered to be too body. So who would
have been the appropriate choice for snow White?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Buck? Do you have a name? Producer, Ali, do you
have a name?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
If they had given the Clay and Buck show carda
blanche here to pick the next snow White, who could
have been the pick to make a billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I think it's Sidney Sweeney. Do you have a better name?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I'm not as First of all, I'm definitely not getting
in the crossfire here of whether you are.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Too influenced by Sidney Sweeney's boobs.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And that's it. It's characterizing the choice here. I do
not want to be near the shrapnel from this one.
So whatever, however, you decide to go this one. I
I And so there's that. The my thing on the
Sidney Sweeney, I'm sorry. On the Rachel zeglarcy now I'm
thinking that, Yeah, there you go. You're getting clouded too.
Can't can't get can't get away.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
The Rachel Zeglar component of this is and I don't
say this to be mean, I mean I just look,
there are some roles in. You know, it's unfortunate. I
am not going to make a living as an underwear model.
You know what I mean, like I I wish, I
wish things were different, but that's not gonna happen. And
I accept that in life, Like I don't have a
six pack working on it, but I don't have a
six pack, and that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm an older guy. I think that snow White.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Should be pretty, like really pretty, and I don't think
that this was a good casting choice for that reason.
For me, it's just you, Rachel Zegler is not good
looking enough her buck Sexton to be snow White. Correct, Yeah,
that is That's my take on it. So I could
go with any number of different Who is the uh Anna?
You know, like you know Ana da Armas? I think
(25:12):
is is?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That? Is that?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Her name?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Very pretty? Now she's a little you know.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I also don't want to get into the agism thing here,
but she might be a little bit old, do you
know what I'm talking about? No, you don't know Anada Armas.
She played she just was who did she? She just
played Marilyn Monroe. I think. Okay, And so you know
that to me, if you're you're investing or you could
go sort of more the you know, the the younger.
(25:37):
I don't know how I look, it's a cartoon. I mean,
snow White, she falls in love with the prince. You know,
you gotta let's assume snow White is I don't know,
nineteen or twenty. You know, I think that's probably a
pretty good if we're trying to throw it in the
in the range here of what you could have somebody
that age player who's just a really good actress and
really pretty and do a really good job. You know,
I don't think I don't think that Rachel Zegler is
(25:58):
enough of a draw. Somebody pointed out one of our
VIPs that she was in the West Side Story, which
also she starred in that Bomb as well, Like how
many bombs are you allowed to start in before people
start to realize you are not the draw that the
executives who make these decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Think they are. You know, just like a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
People are figuring this out about medicine, about about you know, legal.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Minds, about a lot. There are a lot of morons
who are movie executives. They don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
All they want to do is keep their job because
their job ultimately is overpaid and easy to do but
hard to get, which is through of a lot of
these sort of senior level corporate jobs. It's tough to get.
But once you have it, all you're trying to do
is keep it because you know, you go to meetings,
you're like, yo, we should agreen like this, you know whatever.
And so I think that you have to look at
these kinds of decisions that Disney has made and understand
(26:48):
these people were They didn't build Disney. This is a
common thing with leftist as well. The people that are
making the decisions there now they inherited Disney and they
are driving it into the ground. Same way like Gavin
Newsom took over the state of California and it's just
making it worse all the time. He didn't build Hollywood
and Silicon Valley, he took it over and ruined it.
(27:09):
They're ruining Disney the execs that are running it the
same way.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Ali producer Ali come up on the mic if you
can do you agree with Laura that Sidney Sweeney's boobs
are too big to play snow White? Have I been
led astray in my casting decision here?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, Claire, you're definitely looking in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Susceptible to influence. You think maybe on casting decisions.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She does have that really beautiful alabaster skin. Sidney Sweeney does, Yeah, yeah,
she does. Dakota Fanning does too.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, that was your suggestion, Dakota Fanning and Buck I'll
sign off on this.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't, I legit didn't don't know who this person is.
And I'm not claiming, by the way, to be that
plugged in on many modern day movies, because I'm not
out as.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Much added armis. But it's actually a really good call.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I think it's because it's is this someone, this is movie,
this is fantasy. You want to really look at her
face on the screen. Okay, this is the business. And
I know we're like getting away from this these days.
And it's interesting too. You know there's the whole like
body positivity thing ten years ago, which everybody's oh, you know,
maybe even sooner than more recently than that, and now
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with all these different drugs, people can take you of
these celebrities who are look, I'm body positive and now
they weigh like one hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He's focused on the apples. What happened to? Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, Ali jumping in and saying that I'm focused on
the apples. It is true, but yeah, you're right the
body positive. As soon as ozempic started, body positivity didn't
exist anymore. Everybody wanted to get skinny. Everybody like, hey,
I'm super fat, but I'm really positive about the way
I look. No, people are taking ozimpic like crazy if
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they can afford it. And the body positivity thing, which
by the way, isn't very healthy, right, Like this whole
idea of putting people who are morbidly obese on this
magazine and being like, oh, this person is like superbody positive.
I think maybe you should be a little bit less
body positive and try and get healthier. Just an idea. Yes,
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it's actually not help. I would say, I practice what
I preach with this one. It is not good.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You don't want to sit down with your doctor and
have them say, hey, you're trending toward pre diabetes. You
don't want to have that conversation. You know, you don't
want to find out that some of your blood and
your health markers are going south on you because you're
going to pay the price no matter what some celebrity says.
So you know, not everybody has to like I said,
you don't have to be a bikini or an underwear model.
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A guy girl doesn't Matt Well, I mean, guys, you
don't even't wear bikinis. But you know what I mean,
It's not about being perfect, it's not about keeping yourself
at some unrealistic level of expectation. It's just about being
healthy and getting the most out of your day to
day out of your life. And people that tell you
that it doesn't matter anything that you know, however, as
someone looks is totally fine. They're lying to them and
they're not being honest with them with themselves about what
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the long term issues are. But back to like who's
hot enough to place no White? I can't believe we've
been having this conversation. Uh, look for me, Clay, it's
it's even beyond. The funniest thing is still the Dwarves.
That they got rid of the Dwarves, and.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think they should be really mad at Peter Dinklice,
the guy who got to play Tyrian Lanister. He's gotten
every good dwarf role for the entire like last generation.
And then he tells the dwarf people who were acted
the tiny ladder up behind him. You know what I mean, Yeah,
totally just totally like destroyed these seven dwarf actors who
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aren't going to ever have the opportunity. Maybe you go
out and I don't know, you kill it as dopey
or doc and next thing you know, you're you're the
next Tyrian Lanister character. The fact that they made to
avoid offending people, they didn't let actual dwarves play the
dwarves and instead they made commuter computer animated versions of them,
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which is just to me kind of the peak of
the woke absurdity.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Right, I mean this is a bit like how in
order like they in order to truly support women, the
left feminist movement, in its final stages here has decided
that men can be women the same way any women can,
and in doing so completely undermine women, women's rights, women's sports,
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et cetera. Right, it goes to the ultimate conclusion of
the destruction of the thing that it supposedly supports and
cares about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
The most ridiculous woke Disney move ever, And I still
think this is steric. By the way, you can talk
back if you think we're crazy on this. Do you
remember when they decided that the African animals had to
have black voices or else it would be cultural appropriation.
When they remade The Lion King, this is one of
the most crazy parts of this. They said that if
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it's not a black voice the animal, it is cultural appropriation.
For instance, for a lion, which is from Africa to
not be voiced by a black person in America it
is That was like, next, I don't even know how
you get your head around how crazy that is. They
were concerned that a lion having a white voice would
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be cultural appropriation, so they had black, you know, American actors.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
The original Lion King.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
There was criticism because the one of the hyenas was
voiced by Whoopi Goldberg and Scar they say, is you
know Scar, the lion is gay, And so there was
this whole Oh, there's these subliminal messages of who the
bad like, who the bad guys or bad people are,
and it's like, these are cartoons. It's a cartoon, yes,
lion guys, a cartoon hyena like that is not really
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but people get very excited about this stuff.
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Find them on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcast. Welcome back in lots of UH reaction pouring in.
Brian's got a funny one here, Buck, I believe the
obvious choice for snow White would be Dylan mulvaney. That
would I mean, if they had cast a dude as
snow White, that would have been Peaked Disney.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That would have been I would say, I'm gonna tell
you this, As much as that would be insane and
like the destruction of Western civilization happening in real time,
I would almost respect Disney's hootspot with that one. I'd say, Wow, Wow,
they're going to do They're going all in like that.
That would be That would be just just clacking off
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the explosives to bring down the Magic Kingdom all at once.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I mean, that would just be Wow. It would be
really really funny.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yet, yes, I mean, why not go ahead and be
as expansive as possible for UH to be able to
set that up? It would be really really funny to
see that happen. And by the way, producer Ali deluged
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Speaker 4 (36:15):
Let's open do you want to open up lines to
you know, signals, snow white, whatever it is. Let's lot
rack and stack some calls here because we haven't gotten
to as many in the last couple of days as
we want, so we'll do that right when we come back.
We'll also dive into some updates from Doze World and
the Secretary of Agriculture with one of the craziest contracts
I've ever heard of the government doing, which is really
(36:38):
saying something these days, plus Trump weighing in declassifying crossfire,
hurricane documents, and more so big third Hour coming up.
But light up those lines, send us those talkbacks now.
We're going to dive into them in just a few
minutes
Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the program.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We'll take some of your calls.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We'll continue to react to everything, and we bring in
now our good friend Bill O'Reilly. Next book comes out
in September, Confronting Evil, Assessing the worst of the Worst,
and he's got a Three Americans live show with Stephen A.
Smith and Chris Cuomo in Westbury, New York. It is
this Sunday. Tickets available at Bill O'Reilly dot com. Bill,
(00:33):
we appreciate you coming on. All right, How big of
a story do you think the signal controversy is? How
long does it go on? What is your analysis right now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Pretty much over today unless there's another revelation, so we
know what happened. You know, Wall sinadvertently screwed up his
communications on this inner site, and this weasel Jeffrey Goldberg
got on the site and got the information. Big mistake,
(01:07):
not a scandal. If I were President Trump, I wouldn't
fire anybody, certainly embarrassing. If it happens again, then he
has to fire a whole bunch of people.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I think that's totally correct, though I totally agree with that. Bill,
Thanks for being here with us. The one part of
this that I think is interesting is or are There
a few things that have come out of this, but
one of them is what do you think are the
ethics of a journalist in this case getting access? Do
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you think that he plays the I'm a journalist, so
I should just find out whatever I can card or
given that it's national security, which by his own admission
is high level stuff impending strike, he should have ducked
out of it. I mean, what do you think is
the right move? Quite honestly, if you were advising somebody
who came to you and said, hey, I'm in this
chat and they're talking about stuff they shouldn't, what would
(02:01):
you tell them to do?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
All right? As the dean of American journalism, that's me
fifty years this year in the business, getting paid fifty years,
So I'm appointing myself the dean of American journalism. If
it were me and I got on a thread accidentally
as a reporter, I would take notes, all right. I
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would get the information because that's what reporters do. And Goldberg,
I don't think did anything deceitful, but I'm not entirely sure,
and I'm gonna make a point about that in the moment.
But as far as a reporter is concerned, his or
her duty is to assemble information, and this would be
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something that drops in your lap and you're going, WHOA,
I'm gonna listen to this, okay, So that's not any
kind of violation of journalistic ethics or anything else. Then
you have to decide what to do with the information
now here it becomes a little bit murky. If lives
are in danger, if military actions compromise, certainly you cannot
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release it cannot until after the fact. And I believe
that's what Goldberg did. So this all happened on March fifteenth, right,
so he was shutting a fine line, no doubt, And
the FBI should be interviewing him. I don't know what
cash Ftel is, but agents should have interviewed him on Monday,
(03:40):
just to find out, you know, what the deuce happened? Right?
Does that make sense? Everybody? Why wouldn't you be Jeffrey
Goldberg be interviewed by the FBI. I don't believe that's happened.
That has Nobody knows about it it should. Finally, the
the importance of the story is that if you are
(04:05):
going to depend on the Internet for vital national security communications,
the Chinese and Russians are going to be your best friends.
So all these people should have known better, all of them.
It's a lot of inexperience in that national security room,
as we all know, and I pointed that out before
these appointments were made. So there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So what do you think? You said, you think the
story's basically over.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
President Trump certainly has no love lost for the national
security experts out there, demanding that people be fired after
they raided his home and tried to put him in
prison for the rest of his life for classified documents.
Trump seems to be totally behind his team right now.
Through sixty days, there have been very few leagues. I mean,
(04:55):
this was, as Buck and I have talked about, not
only an error, but an error that actually was probably
the worst person you could have put on the text thread,
right because I don't think most people would have behaved
in the way necessarily that Jeffrey Goldberg has. But we're
through sixty days. You think this story is going to
(05:16):
go away? What grade would you give President Trump? Bill
O'Reilly right now through the first couple of months of
Trump two point zero.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Okay, so you're not just grading him on this incident,
you're grading him on correct the performance. So I actually
have asked this question on Stephen A. Smith podcast Monday,
and thank you for mentioning the live show that we're
doing on Sunday at Westbury Long Island. And I give
Trump various grades. So he gives an A plus on
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the border, Yep, he gets a B plus on the
deportations of criminal aliens. I think that Holman, who I
had on my program and then it Spin News yesterday,
it's got to be a little bit more methodical about
who's getting booted out of here and why, So I
(06:11):
better it might be plus the tariffs, I'm giving them
a C and an incomplete because we do not know
how that's going to work out, and it's spooked the
stock market, so some people got hurt in the short term.
I tell all my listeners and viewers do not react
to political things in a stock market. Just ride it out.
(06:34):
And there is information, by the way, that is coming
in the I think it was one of the Arab states,
Gulf States investing a trillion dollars in American economy, and
that's not reported by the corrupt press. So there is
big money coming into the United States which will bolster
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the economy. But right now people are confused about tariffs.
It is a confusing situation, and so I'm giving them
a c there as far as overall demeanor is concerned.
As you guys probably know, I was in a cabinet
meeting in the White House on Saint Patrick's day. He
was totally in command. I think he's doing the right
thing with Putin, even though Putin is on the cover
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of my upcoming book Confronting Evil. Putin is evil, but
you got to deal with evils sometimes. And I think
they're going to get some kind of seas fire in
Ukraine that's big. So overall, I would say President Trump
is having a successful launch into his second term.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
We're trying to bill O'Reilly. Oh sorry, I just want't
bill out. I want to ask you. You mentioned the
live show coming up with Stephen A. There's a different
kind of live show that's been happening lately, a road
show of sorts with Bernie Sanders and AOC. It's like
the Socialist Elder statesman trying to pass the torch to
the woke radical leftist. You know, this is this the
(08:04):
future of the Democrat Party? You think, are they going
to lead into this? You know, well, how do you
see that playing out? Because they have, as we've discussed
with you before, the bench. They can tell us all
day it's strong. Their bench is not strong right now.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, if they continue on this way, and you're throw
in Maxine Waters saying that Malania Trump may not be
a citizen. You throw in that Crockett woman in Texas
who is mocking Greg Abbott in a wheelchair. You put
that all in one soup bowl, and Americans are going
(08:43):
this party is disintegrating. With a thirty percent approval rating,
You're going to have two communists go out and do
a tour. Sanders is a hardcore communist. He wants to
see his private property. Oh, Cassio Cortez, I don't think
understands the difference between socialism and communism. Could be wrong,
and I don't want to be super silly as word
(09:04):
of the day. She went to the same college I
went to Boston University. But I don't think she understands
economics at all. I think she's just a trendy person
who goes and says what she thinks a radical left
followers want to hear. But Saters is a dangerous man.
He's dangerous And I don't know whether most Americans understand
(09:25):
that Uncle Bernie is a hardcore communist, but certainly when
you promote a wealth tax where the government would come
into your home and seize private property under the guise
of taxation, you're a communist. That's what communism is. So
the Democratic Party putting their future in the hands of
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those four people, then it's done.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't know if you saw this, Lebron James, since
you were going to be with Steven A.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Smith and you just did his podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Lebron James just went on ESPN and really kind of
took a two by four to Steven A.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Smith.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't know if you saw this, but he mocked
him over the way that he has You know, they
had a confrontation of sorts on the court, and he
mocked him over the way that he has covered it.
You have seen Steven A. Smith be engaging more and
more in politics. Do you buy the idea that he
(10:29):
might ever do anything in terms of actually running for office.
You're doing this tour with him now, I'm sure you'll
talk about the Lebron feud a little bit, But what
is his end game here? He's now got one hundred
million dollar contract from ESPN. He's gonna theoretically have more
money than he could theoretically spend. I say theoretically because
there's a lot of people out there who have made
(10:50):
a hundred million dollars crazily and end up going bankrupt somehow.
So that's still out there. But what do you think
the next move for steven a is, Well, he's.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Run for politics anytime soon. He's in his fifties. When
he gets in his sixties, who probably have enough of
calling Cleveland Cavalier games? And maybe he'll say way, And
he's a very smart guy. I think he's honest. I've
seen nothing to the contrary. I'm going to take his
measure on Sunday. You know, Cuomo and Smith, they better
(11:23):
be on their game. They're coming up against me, the
Dan of American journalism, self appointed of course. But anyway,
Lebron James, when he was yelling at Stephen A. Smith
initially was doing so as a father. And I understand
that because Smith mocked his son, Bronnie James, who might
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not be ready for prime time yet is on the Lakers.
It is a NEPO situation, but I understand that by
yelling at Smith on the sideline that then lebron James
pulled his growing and was out for two weeks. So
maybe maybe that's something. But you know, these kinds of feuds,
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a lot of them are artificial and they help the feuders. Yes,
lebron James is an attention junkie loves it, and I
think steven A likes the attention as well.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Bill, do you still have some tickets to sell for
this live event? Where do folks go to get them?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, it's it's a really nice crowd, but we
just released fifteen VIP tickets where after the show you
get to meet me and Cuomo and Smith. Now why
anyone would want to do that, I don't know, but
they sold out fast than first, so we scrounged up
fifteen more and then we you know, Westbrook, I don't
(12:46):
know if you guys have been there. It's really a
good theater. It's not a bad seat in the place.
It's got a big audio visual and I already have
the topics that we're going to talk about with the
Q and A from the audience. It's going to be
a lot of fun and rot. They're gonna be serious
things that we mentioned as well. So if anybody wants
(13:07):
a good afternoon Sunday afternoon, go to Bill O'Reilly dot
com link. You're right over ticket master whispering music fare
all of that. And I appreciate you guys, mentioned he
it's very kind of you to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Keep up the good work. Am I what?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Sorry, that's what happens. You got two guys doing this sometimes.
He said, keep up the good work. And I said,
we appreciate you coming on. Uncle Bill always welcome here.
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I appreciate you having me, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
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Speaker 4 (15:29):
So we have an update here from Secretary of Defense Hegseeth,
our friend Pete Hegseth, who has weighed in on this situation.
And here's the here's the latest from Pete Hegseth. Clay
tell everybody how he's responding on this whole signal issue.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He Pete Hegseth just tweeted, Let's get this straight. The
Atlantic released the so called war plans, and those plans
include no names, no targets, no locations, no units, no routes,
no sources, no methods, and no classified information. Those are
some really crappy. He did not use that word or plans.
(16:13):
This only proves one thing. Jeff Goldberg has never seen
a war plan or an attack plan as he now
calls it, not even close. As I type this, my
team and I are traveling the Indo pacificcom region, meeting
with commanders, the guys who make real war plans, and
talking to troops. We will continue to do our job
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while the media does what it does best pedal hoaxes.
That is Pete Hagseth responding to the latest story from
the Atlantic. Here's what I would say, Buck, I don't
know what the Atlantic still has back on the on
the so called storyline, because they now have published multiple
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stories on this. A part of that, certainly, I would
think the uh Trump team knows exactly what was said
on the text chain. The general rule, I will say
is this, get ahead of the story. Don't allow it
to continue to come out in dribs and drabs. I
hope this is the end of it, but they are
(17:15):
intentionally dragging it out. It seems to me at the
Atlantic to get as much attention as they possibly can.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Right and as I said, my concern along has been
that they'll catch them in a lie.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is always what you have to be aware of
in these situations.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Right, they have information, they're saying that it has the
following the rejection of the assertions from Tulci, Gabber and
Heckseeth and others opens up the possibility they get blindsided
with something. But I think they got to know what
he has because they were the ones in the text chat,
so I don't think they would be that silly. And
like I said, I think this is the last day
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
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We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program.
By the way, major League Baseball comes back tomorrow. I
wanted to hit something that we had a big conversation
about yesterday and you and I were just talking about it, Buck,
the way that Disney has totally lost its connection with
large segments of the American population. You and I were
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looking during the commercial break, and I've got it pulled
up on my phone on the stocks app. I don't
want to sound like Tim Walls here, but if you
had bought Disney stock on in July of twenty fifteen,
so it's basically a decade ago, the stock price was
around one hundred and twenty dollars a share. Today, ten
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years later, the stock price is around one hundred dollars
a share, so you would have lost, not even factoring
in inflation twenty percent, roughly stock valuation at a time
when the stock market it itself has more than doubled.
Now you may have made some money back on dividends,
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but I bet a lot of you out there have
Disney stock in your four to oh one k's or
if you buy like I do, S and P five
hundred index funds. Disney is one of the five hundred
biggest companies in the world, so you're going to have
some exposure to this company. We talked about this in
the context of the snow White movie, where Woke Disney
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is collapsing. They're going to lose hundreds of millions of dollars,
and you and I had a conversation where there's something
about the casting that just didn't make sense. And I
think if they had just let you and me actually
make casting decisions, that the movie might have made a
billion dollars for Disney instead of losing hundreds of millions
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of dollars. And if you think that's crazy, as we
told you yesterday, the original animated snow White, released in
nineteen thirty seven, made four billion dollars in modern day dollars,
so it basically funded the Disney Corporation and made it
the huge success that it was in Walt Disney's era. Now,
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my wife, last night, we're driving back from dinner and
we went to a songwriter event, which was really fun.
Ten Pans South, one of the events that they do
here in town where everybody explains how they came to
write the songs that they did. Very cool in Nashville.
And my wife said, I think you're wrong about who
should have been cast as snow White. She said, Rachel
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Zegler clearly the wrong choice. And then we got into
my big thing, which is Gal Gadot is actually better
looking than Rachel Zegler. You can't have you agree with
me on that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Well, yeah, but I think she's too old to be
snow White. Isn't snow White supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
But sorry, you all back. I'm fired up about this.
I really am fired enough about this. But taking you
back to the nineteen thirty seven snow White, the entire
pro of Snow White is that snow White has replaced
the evil stepmother as the fairest in all the land.
(22:09):
So I don't buy off the face that Gal Gadot
is worse looking than snow White. Right, So the entire
premise of the movie doesn't happen if the evil step
queen Stepmother Queen is it is actually still better looking
than snow White.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But I said, I think I said it on the air.
I know I tweeted.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It that Sidney Sweeney should have been cast as snow White.
My wife says that this is me being clouded by
Sidney Sweeney's boobs. She says that Sidney Sweeney is far
too buxom to use a word that will probably make
Buck Sexton happy, far too buxom to have actually played
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snow White. So it got me thinking, I'm sure that
we're going to be deluged right now. Who would have been?
I would stick to my Sidney Sweeney choice. I think
it would have been excellent. I think the movie would
have made a billion dollars, and I think that she
would be a fabulous snow White. My wife says, I
am beclouded potentially by Sidney Sweeney's de celatage. I'm trying
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to use as many different words for boobs as I
can here, buck, who would have been a better choice?
And I pushed back against my wife.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I said, you.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Remember, Lindsey Lohan made a lot of money in those
Herbie and the love Bug movies back in the day,
and she was quite the bucks some last and it
was not considered to be too body. So who would
have been the appropriate choice for snow White?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Buck? Do you have a name? Producer, Ali, do you
have a name?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
If they had given the Clay and Buck show carda
blanche here to pick the next snow White, who could
have been the pick to make a billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I think it's Sidney Sweeney. Do you have a better name?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I'm not as First of all, I'm definitely not getting
in the crossfire here of whether you are.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Too influenced by Sidney Sweeney's boobs.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And that's it. It's characterizing the choice here. I do
not want to be near the shrapnel from this one.
So whatever, however, you decide to go this one. I
I And so there's that. The my thing on the
Sidney Sweeney, I'm sorry. On the Rachel zeglarcy now I'm
thinking that, Yeah, there you go. You're getting clouded too.
Can't can't get can't get away.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
The Rachel Zeglar component of this is and I don't
say this to be mean, I mean I just look,
there are some roles in. You know, it's unfortunate. I
am not going to make a living as an underwear model.
You know what I mean, like I I wish, I
wish things were different, but that's not gonna happen. And
I accept that in life, Like I don't have a
six pack working on it, but I don't have a
six pack, and that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I'm an older guy. I think that snow White.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Should be pretty, like really pretty, and I don't think
that this was a good casting choice for that reason.
For me, it's just you, Rachel Zegler is not good
looking enough her buck Sexton to be snow White. Correct, Yeah,
that is That's my take on it. So I could
go with any number of different Who is the uh Anna?
You know, like you know Ana da Armas? I think
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is is?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That? Is that?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Her name?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Very pretty? Now she's a little you know.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I also don't want to get into the agism thing here,
but she might be a little bit old, do you
know what I'm talking about? No, you don't know Anada Armas.
She played she just was who did she? She just
played Marilyn Monroe. I think. Okay, And so you know
that to me, if you're you're investing or you could
go sort of more the you know, the the younger.
(25:37):
I don't know how I look, it's a cartoon. I mean,
snow White, she falls in love with the prince. You know,
you gotta let's assume snow White is I don't know,
nineteen or twenty. You know, I think that's probably a
pretty good if we're trying to throw it in the
in the range here of what you could have somebody
that age player who's just a really good actress and
really pretty and do a really good job. You know,
I don't think I don't think that Rachel Zegler is
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enough of a draw. Somebody pointed out one of our
VIPs that she was in the West Side Story, which
also she starred in that Bomb as well, Like how
many bombs are you allowed to start in before people
start to realize you are not the draw that the
executives who make these decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Think they are. You know, just like a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
People are figuring this out about medicine, about about you know, legal.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Minds, about a lot. There are a lot of morons
who are movie executives. They don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
All they want to do is keep their job because
their job ultimately is overpaid and easy to do but
hard to get, which is through of a lot of
these sort of senior level corporate jobs. It's tough to get.
But once you have it, all you're trying to do
is keep it because you know, you go to meetings,
you're like, yo, we should agreen like this, you know whatever.
And so I think that you have to look at
these kinds of decisions that Disney has made and understand
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these people were They didn't build Disney. This is a
common thing with leftist as well. The people that are
making the decisions there now they inherited Disney and they
are driving it into the ground. Same way like Gavin
Newsom took over the state of California and it's just
making it worse all the time. He didn't build Hollywood
and Silicon Valley, he took it over and ruined it.
(27:09):
They're ruining Disney the execs that are running it the
same way.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Ali producer Ali come up on the mic if you
can do you agree with Laura that Sidney Sweeney's boobs
are too big to play snow White? Have I been
led astray in my casting decision here?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, Claire, you're definitely looking in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Susceptible to influence. You think maybe on casting decisions.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She does have that really beautiful alabaster skin. Sidney Sweeney does, Yeah, yeah,
she does. Dakota Fanning does too.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, that was your suggestion, Dakota Fanning and Buck I'll
sign off on this.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't, I legit didn't don't know who this person is.
And I'm not claiming, by the way, to be that
plugged in on many modern day movies, because I'm not
out as.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Much added armis. But it's actually a really good call.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I think it's because it's is this someone, this is movie,
this is fantasy. You want to really look at her
face on the screen. Okay, this is the business. And
I know we're like getting away from this these days.
And it's interesting too. You know there's the whole like
body positivity thing ten years ago, which everybody's oh, you know,
maybe even sooner than more recently than that, and now
(28:18):
with all these different drugs, people can take you of
these celebrities who are look, I'm body positive and now
they weigh like one hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
He's focused on the apples. What happened to? Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, Ali jumping in and saying that I'm focused on
the apples. It is true, but yeah, you're right the
body positive. As soon as ozempic started, body positivity didn't
exist anymore. Everybody wanted to get skinny. Everybody like, hey,
I'm super fat, but I'm really positive about the way
I look. No, people are taking ozimpic like crazy if
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they can afford it. And the body positivity thing, which
by the way, isn't very healthy, right, Like this whole
idea of putting people who are morbidly obese on this
magazine and being like, oh, this person is like superbody positive.
I think maybe you should be a little bit less
body positive and try and get healthier. Just an idea. Yes,
(29:10):
it's actually not help. I would say, I practice what
I preach with this one. It is not good.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
You don't want to sit down with your doctor and
have them say, hey, you're trending toward pre diabetes. You
don't want to have that conversation. You know, you don't
want to find out that some of your blood and
your health markers are going south on you because you're
going to pay the price no matter what some celebrity says.
So you know, not everybody has to like I said,
you don't have to be a bikini or an underwear model.
(29:35):
A guy girl doesn't Matt Well, I mean, guys, you
don't even't wear bikinis. But you know what I mean,
It's not about being perfect, it's not about keeping yourself
at some unrealistic level of expectation. It's just about being
healthy and getting the most out of your day to
day out of your life. And people that tell you
that it doesn't matter anything that you know, however, as
someone looks is totally fine. They're lying to them and
they're not being honest with them with themselves about what
(29:57):
the long term issues are. But back to like who's
hot enough to place no White? I can't believe we've
been having this conversation. Uh, look for me, Clay, it's
it's even beyond. The funniest thing is still the Dwarves.
That they got rid of the Dwarves, and.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I think they should be really mad at Peter Dinklice,
the guy who got to play Tyrian Lanister. He's gotten
every good dwarf role for the entire like last generation.
And then he tells the dwarf people who were acted
the tiny ladder up behind him. You know what I mean, Yeah,
totally just totally like destroyed these seven dwarf actors who
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aren't going to ever have the opportunity. Maybe you go
out and I don't know, you kill it as dopey
or doc and next thing you know, you're you're the
next Tyrian Lanister character. The fact that they made to
avoid offending people, they didn't let actual dwarves play the
dwarves and instead they made commuter computer animated versions of them,
(30:57):
which is just to me kind of the peak of
the woke absurdity.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Right, I mean this is a bit like how in
order like they in order to truly support women, the
left feminist movement, in its final stages here has decided
that men can be women the same way any women can,
and in doing so completely undermine women, women's rights, women's sports,
(31:22):
et cetera. Right, it goes to the ultimate conclusion of
the destruction of the thing that it supposedly supports and
cares about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
The most ridiculous woke Disney move ever, And I still
think this is steric. By the way, you can talk
back if you think we're crazy on this. Do you
remember when they decided that the African animals had to
have black voices or else it would be cultural appropriation.
When they remade The Lion King, this is one of
the most crazy parts of this. They said that if
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it's not a black voice the animal, it is cultural appropriation.
For instance, for a lion, which is from Africa to
not be voiced by a black person in America it
is That was like, next, I don't even know how
you get your head around how crazy that is. They
were concerned that a lion having a white voice would
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be cultural appropriation, so they had black, you know, American actors.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
The original Lion King.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
There was criticism because the one of the hyenas was
voiced by Whoopi Goldberg and Scar they say, is you
know Scar, the lion is gay, And so there was
this whole Oh, there's these subliminal messages of who the
bad like, who the bad guys or bad people are,
and it's like, these are cartoons. It's a cartoon, yes,
lion guys, a cartoon hyena like that is not really
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but people get very excited about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
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Find them on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcast. Welcome back in lots of UH reaction pouring in.
Brian's got a funny one here, Buck, I believe the
obvious choice for snow White would be Dylan mulvaney. That
would I mean, if they had cast a dude as
snow White, that would have been Peaked Disney.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That would have been I would say, I'm gonna tell
you this, As much as that would be insane and
like the destruction of Western civilization happening in real time,
I would almost respect Disney's hootspot with that one. I'd say, Wow, Wow,
they're going to do They're going all in like that.
That would be That would be just just clacking off
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the explosives to bring down the Magic Kingdom all at once.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I mean, that would just be Wow. It would be
really really funny.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yet, yes, I mean, why not go ahead and be
as expansive as possible for UH to be able to
set that up? It would be really really funny to
see that happen. And by the way, producer Ali deluged
in reactions and let me just say this, we got
a bunch of people who were saying that Jasmine Crockett
is trying to destroy the brand value that we're building
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weigh in on a variety of different topics.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Let's open do you want to open up lines to
you know, signals, snow white, whatever it is. Let's lot
rack and stack some calls here because we haven't gotten
to as many in the last couple of days as
we want, so we'll do that right when we come back.
We'll also dive into some updates from Doze World and
the Secretary of Agriculture with one of the craziest contracts
I've ever heard of the government doing, which is really
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