August 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a gripping and emotionally charged analysis of the tragic Minneapolis church shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church, where two children were killed and several others injured. The hosts explore the emerging details surrounding the shooter, identified as a transgender individual, and delve into the ideological motivations behind the attack, including anti-Christian, anti-Trump, and antisemitic sentiments. The shooter’s weapon reportedly bore disturbing inscriptions such as “Kill Donald Trump,” “Burn Israel,” and “6 million wasn’t enough,” sparking a broader conversation about trans terrorism, left-wing extremism, and media bias.
Drawing parallels to the Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Clay and Buck argue that mainstream media outlets like MSNBC, CNN, and The New York Times routinely suppress or downplay the ideological affiliations of shooters when they conflict with progressive narratives. The hosts criticize political figures, including Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, for allegedly minimizing the role of prayer and failing to address the ideological roots of such violence.
The hour also features passionate listener reactions, including calls for armed school security, especially in religious institutions, and critiques of gender-affirming medical procedures for minors. The discussion includes predictions of future lawsuits against doctors and hospitals performing puberty blockers and top/bottom surgeries, likening current practices to historical medical abuses like lobotomies.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
In hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show, we
are following in real time and awful story out of Minneapolis.
I want to update you in the event that you
have not heard. A shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church
has sent Two people have been killed, an eight year
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old and a ten year old, and four We don't
know their ages, We don't know the details. According to
a Minneapolis area emergency room, have had to have emergency surgery.
We don't know if those are adults. We know nine
kids went to the hospital. We don't know if it
were two adults. We don't know exactly who had the
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surgeries and what their latest outcome is likely to be.
But if you can pray for them, that certainly would
be important and worthy to do. Here now, as we
went to break, I said a lot of details about
the shooter now emerging. This is feeling very similar to
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the Covenant School shooting that many of you will remember
in my hometown of Nashville, Tennessee. What happened at the
Covenant School shooting was a trans individual went in angry
at the world, angry at the church, and shot up
the place. There was a manifesto associated with it. That
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manifesto was buried for a very long time, and if
you don't want to call it a manifesto, it was
a series of journal writings. Most people still don't know
what happened there because almost immediately much of the media
just stopped covering who the shooter was as more of
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these details come out. This shooter appears to have posted
multiple videos on YouTube, and among the details are a
photo of Jesus as a target, a gun with kill
Donald Trump written on the side of it, a endorsement
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of trans ideologies. This appears to have been a man
potentially trying to identify as a woman, and I believe
more details will be coming out about this. And again,
two young kids, an eight and a ten year old
killed and four needing surgery rushed to the emergency room.
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I believe where we should be having a conversation here
is the trans community is overwhelmingly if you look at
how tiny their percentage is engaged in many different violent
acts out there, and a lot of people are going
to never hear the detail that we just shared with you.
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A lot of people never heard the details about the
Covenant School shooting that we have shared with you on
this program, because again it's not the right kind of
person doing the shooting for the left and much of
the media. And again on the ammunition clip written is
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where is your God? On the gun itself killed Donald
Trump a target with Jesus's head in where the head
is of a target? And do you believe in God?
Question mark written on the weapon as well. So it's
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pretty awful and obviously something that has now become far
too common when it comes to the trans shooting community
and Buck, I honestly think that we should be having
a conversation about the drugs that we're putting these young
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people on. We know that the transhooter at Covenant School
was all meted up with crazy amounts of hormones and
everything else. I think it will come out that there
were other aspects of medication that likely were involved in
this shooter as well. And this feels to me like
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something that a rational, reasonable society should be talking about
in earnest now with it becoming unfortunately far too common.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, let's think this.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Let's think this through for a moment, because there's substantial
evidence now that this is a white left wing anti
Trump trans Antifa like ideology we're dealing with here, and
it's not the first time. It's very similar to what
we saw in the Covenant School shooting, and there have
been other trans shooters as well. And one thing that
is commonplace among these, and this is terrorism. This is
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a trans terrorist, Okay, that is what happened here. This
is somebody killing for political and ideological reasons. So don't
let them drop. There are two words they're going to
want to drop from this discussion immediately, trans and terrorist,
and those are the two central words in this. This
was a because it's not about the person being transfer
se it's about somebody who is pursuing an ideology that
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is unfortunately rammed down everybody's throats by a lot of institutions.
Now that being trans is central to your identity, that
it is immutable, even though of course it is based
on a mutable transition, right, but this is intrinsic to
who you are. Anybody who opposes this, say like the
Catholic Church, which does not support Now, the Catholic Church
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would tell you love trans people, support trans people, help
trans people, all of which is true, all of which
is moral, and on other churches as well, though some churches,
I THNK go as so far as to say that
actually the trans thing should be celebrated for what it is.
That is a different thing. I'm saying. The Catholic Church says,
hug love, support, be good to trans individuals. That doesn't
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necessarily mean you have to play along with the delusion.
That doesn't mean that you have to say that you
don't need help. And what we're seeing here, Clay, is
a society that aspects of it, at least corporate major corporations,
the academy meaning colleges, universities, and schools, all the way
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down to a very little level. They have been pushing
this ideology for a long time. And now that ideology,
now that belief system of transit central to identity, is
coming up against its first real moment of reckoning. People
are finally saying no. And what they did with this
for a long time was it's about just be tolerant
of it, and people like you and me and others
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go tolerant of it. Of course, you know, we love
trans people as people. They are brothers or sisters in
the you know, in the most general sense there fellow
human beings. Even Trump said this yesterday right. Trump said, yeah, look,
I love trans people, but I can't have seven foot
dudes playing against women. Now that's in the sports context.
You can love a trans person as a human being
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and treat them with dignity and kindness and respect while
also saying we need to get you help. You're not
actually a woman, it's not actually true. You should get assistance,
you should get therapy, you should seek the attention of
people who can help you work through this. What we
have instead is half of society telling them this is
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essential to who you are. Anybody who challenges or questions this, right,
they're always going to want to conflate these things. Challenging
or questioning someone's transidentity does not mean saying, you know,
hateful things, hurting someone, refusing to hire someone, doing any
of that. That's not what it is. What it is
is living in reality. Okay, those other things are bad,
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and nobody should do those things to any person. But
what you see here is a society clay where there's
a massive schism, where half the country is telling people
like this individual, this is something to be celebrated. It's wonderful,
it's beautiful, you are whatever you say you are, and Therefore,
what are those institutions, Clay, And what are those individuals
who say, I'm sorry, I still love you as a person,
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but what you are doing is not truth. You are
not living in truth, and I cannot go along with
the lie. I will not live by lies. I will
still love you as my fellow brother or sister human being.
I will still care for you. I want what's best
for you, But I will not live by your lie, Clay.
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People who are already clearly emotionally unstable, who already have problems,
they're being given these two very different messages. And how
many times does this have to happen before we say
there's something deeply wrong here, there's something that has had
we have crossed a rubicon, and now we have a
problem that we have to face up to. I think
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we've been there for a while. I think this just
solidifies that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and I think you brought it home for me
because I hadn't really spent much time on this the
trans and I really looked into it aggressively after the
Covenant School shooting, which happened in my hometown of Nashville.
They believe that if you try to stop children from
being trans that you are committing genocide.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Genocide correct, very important to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And if you believe that you're having genocide committed against you,
then all acts of violence in that perverted and twisted
worldview are justified because you believe that your very essence
is being targeted. Then you tie in all these other
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different toxic stews. Buck also, on the gun that this
individual used to shoot up the Catholic school, I'm looking
at photos online as we're talking, written six million was
it enough?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And all sorts of anti Jewish sentiments as well.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Can I just say something like there's also in Russian
written on the gun for anyone, because this reminds me
when I used to go on CNN and have these
debates whenever it was a jihadis terrorists who have been
relatively quiet in this country for a while. Now to
how we're using that term, I just said, this is
a trans terrorist. Do you know what was written on
the gun in Russian? I'm a terrorist? So I'm just wondering,
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is do any left wingers want to debate me on
this one?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
My analysis led me to this is an active terror
and this person is saying I am a terrorist. The
person who did it. I think we should listen. I
think that that's pretty clear. Burn Israel also written on
the gun. I mean, this entire weapon that he used
to kill innocent kids is populated with left wing ideology,
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and this wedding of the left to the trans community
is creating, I think, a toxic worldview. And you really
brought it home because when you think to yourself, they
have convinced these people that if you aren't giving a
twelve year old puberty blockers, you are committing genocide against
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the trans community. They are willing to act out as
terrorists as a result. They think that they're in some
way morally justified in their perverted minds to do this.
Here's where this really really comes together, everybody, and we
just have to be honest about this all with each other.
If trying to again, like I said, doing so with love,
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doing so with support, doing so with kindness in your heart,
but if refusing to affirm the trans identity of an individual,
and more specifically, as Clay raises, if refusing to allow
a twelve year old to take puberty blockers and have
a you know, breast removal or you know they call
it upper or bottom top or bottom surgery. If you
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or an institution are the moral equivalent of a Nazi
because you are erasing people and committing genocide for doing so,
of course there will be people who say, well, whatever
institution is standing in that way must be evil, and
they have it exactly backwards. And so why are Catholic
churches and why are Catholic children being Because this is
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an individual who had through extreme left wing belief that
unfortunately is far the belief is far more prevalent in
this country than the violences. But that's always the case.
This is the case in jihadism and Islamism and around
the world with that too, there's the belief, and then
they're those who act on the belief. These radical left
wing beliefs have been mainstreamed, been supported throughout society, have
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been supported by corporations, by the Democrat Party, by the media,
and now we are paying a price as a society
for this because people have been convinced that what is
beautiful and good and decent and moral and righteous in
our society is actually the source of evil. And that
is why they're shooting up children in a Catholic church.
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And it is not the first time, and tragically. I
don't think it will be the last time, and it's
time we looked at this Clay. I just tweeted this
when people know I believe this. If we as a
society decided that the great civil rights struggle of our
time was elevating people with extreme schizophrenia. I know schizophrena
is on a spectrum. I know people have had schizophrenia.
I have very close friends who have had schizophrenia. I'm
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not maligning anybody for any mental health illness, mental health.
Everybody has mental health struggles. But I'm saying extreme schizophrenia
is both crippling and pretty frightening to people who have
to deal with it. If we elevated that as a
beautiful thing that everybody must celebrate, cannot question say to
suggest that you should get treatment for this, Clay as evil.
To suggest treatment for it is evil. If we did that,
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terrible things would happen in this country. We have done that.
It's just not what schizophrenia and now we are seeing
the outcome, and now we are seeing the reality of this,
and I think that's to be very clear on it.
I think that's all I said, and we're going to continue.
We'll take some of your talkbacks. As more of these
details are coming out again, I would expect that you
will see a lot of left wing organizations start to
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back away because this is becoming very much of a
trend unfortunately. And look, I hated to say at six
million wasn't enough to kill Israel. Written on the gun
of this person who attacked a Catholic church this morning.
Anti Semitism has skyrocketed. There are way too many people
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out there that are attacking people for being Jewish all
around the world, but certainly in our country and certainly
in Israel itself. And that's what the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews is trying to do. Israel is not
an easy place to live, particularly for the elderly. Thousands
of families that have lost their homes because of missile attacks.
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A donation you make to the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews, I mean, this killer went after Christians and
he wanted to go after Jews.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Two.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
This is awful. This is what the IFCJ is trying
to do. Bring people who are Christians and Jews, good
decent people to try to stop mass attacks on innocent people.
And now's your time to help to rush your gift.
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You can also go online at IFCJ dot org. That's
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IFCJ dot org.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
You don't know what.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You don't know, right, but you could.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
On the Sunday Hang with Buck podcast, Welcome back into
Clay and Bocks. Big story we are on here today
is the continuous breaking news about this horrible shooting at
the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis. Clay, you have an update
for us which just solidifies our reporting so far and
our analysis on this.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Tell everybody, Yeah, I'm trying to avoid sharing the full name,
but Minnesota, let's just.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Say that you're gonna end up. You would end up
dead naming the person, so that's a big clue.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, Minnesota court records confirm this person who identified as
a woman with a woman's name, changed his name to
identify as a woman in twenty twenty. So the trans
terrorist aspect of this is one hundred conferrent confirmed.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is a trans terrorist, everybody, a trans terrorist in
Minneapolis just shot up a church full of little kids,
and it's believed that there was reconnaissance done in advance
that he he had sketched this out and decided I
did that he was going to go in there and
kill as many as possible. Clay Again, I don't want
to get ahead of where the facts are, but I
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have to think that yesterday was the same shooter. They
didn't catch the shooter. Yesterday a rifle at a church
shooting it up. Someone was killed. Is there somebody else
who's going around with a rifle shooting up churches in Minneapolis.
I mean, if that's the case, that's you know, we
got even bigger problems than we realize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
This is an awful, awful story. But again to your point, yes,
and also this evokes what happened at the Covenant School
in Nashville. This is something that we should be talking
about in earnest. And I think, certainly for people who
are saying this is going to be a real conversation
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that happens now going forward, I think beyond the shadow.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And remember the media hit the Manifesto because it was
a trans.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Terrorist there, and it's trans terrast again. And look right
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weighing in awful news coming out of Minneapolis, and I
do think remember when Jensaki was supposed to be the
star of MSNBC and she was going to be the
Rachel Maddow replacement. You might be wondering how people are
responding on the left to what has happened to innocent
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eight and ten year old kids killed in Minneapolis. Jensaki tweeted,
when kids are getting shot in the pews at a
Catholic school mass, and your crime plan is to have
National Guard put mulch down around DC, maybe rethink your strategy.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
She's a moron. I mean, I know she was the
Press secretary, but that means nothing. She's a moron that
that has nothing to do with anything. But what does
trying to beautify Washington, DC have to do with a
left wing trans terrorist who probably watched MSNBC a lot,
by the way, just throwing that out there, killing a
bunch of kids in a church, Like, what, how could
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someone's brain a functions and connect these two things? I
would say she should be ashamed of herself. But she's
an airhead. I mean, she's truly an imbecile.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
A lot of you weighing in, we haven't taken any
reactions yet. Let's hit some of this QQ Joseph in
South Carolina. I think he's actually got a really interesting
and good take. This is ninety four point three in
South Carolina or news radio station there, Joseph, South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I think a lot of his problem is that they
should do something about these doctors performing all of this
stuff on these young kids. I know they take oath
about not hurting anybody or you know, and this is
destroying some little kid's life from twelve or thirteen or
fourteen years old. That's against they're oath. I don't understand
why they don't lose their license.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
You know what is wrong with these people.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think he hit on a really really important story
that I believe is going to grow in significance over
the next decade plus. A lot of these people who
have gotten trans surgeries are still relatively young. I think
that there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some
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of these doctors. Because if you were twelve and you
had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor, you're gonna
suddenly wake up one day at twenty two. You're gonna
have come through puberty, you're gonna be a more knowledgeable adult,
and you're gonna sit back and say, I can't believe
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what adults let me do to myself. The fact that
doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently
sterilized young kids when they are minors, I think you're
going to see juries are going to get some of
these cases. They are going to bankrupt some of these doctors.
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I'm just telling you where it's coming, and we're gonna
go back and we're going to look at this. I
really believe, particularly as it pertains to young kids, as
the equivalent of when so many people were getting lobotomized
and that was considered to be just kind of standard
operating procedure for doctors. I think this is going to
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be it's going to take financial pain raining down on
some of these doctors and hospitals that made this a
part of their business. And I think it's actually a
really kind of forward thinking comment there.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You know, I think about just in the context. You know,
I was basically a I was a political science major
in college. This will make sense in a second everyone,
but I was really in Islamic studies major as much
as or sort of Islamic history and politics. I could
have been a double major because of all the classes,
and I remember classes I took in both disciplines. But
I remember that when they passed under Zia in Pakistan,
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they passed laws, the Hodud ordinances. It's like right around
nineteen eighty they passed laws about hand amputation, and so
you know, you can cut like the Quranic punishment cut
off your hand for stealing. One of the problems they
ran into was that actual trained doctors were like, I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
To you know, to their to their doctor's credit.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And there's also there's been other instances, you know, the
Malaysian Medical Association, for example, under a similar in one
of the states in Malaysia refused, like the doctors refused
to do the amputations, even though the state was mandating
that this would be a punishment. They're like, sorry, we don't,
you know, we're doctors. We don't cut off healthy hands. Yeah,
and this wasn't that long ago, everybody, right, this is
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and roughly speaking in my it was in Clay's lifetime,
roughly speaking in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And my point here is, but doctors in this country
are removing healthy breasts or healthy genitals from people because
of feelings. Think about this. The Pakistani doctors under a
dictator who were told get ready to remove people's hands
for Koranic punishment. We're like, sorry, not doing it. But
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in this country you have major medical major medical hospitals
are children's hospitals who are saying, yeah, we're going to
give puberty blockers and We're going to remove breasts in
teenage girls.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's monstrous. I don't know what else to say. This
is monstrous stuff. They should not be doing this. I agree.
A couple of callers.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
By the way, let's start with Katie in southern California. Katie,
you say you just dropped your kids off at a
Catholic school this morning.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, I did. Kay, it's a TK through eighth grade
school here in southern California. And after I heard about
it and was getting ready for work and literally called
the security guard at our school and I said, dude,
put your head on a swivel. He already knew about it.
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Which I'm going to implore parents right now. You need
to get involved in the if you should know, if
you don't have a security guard at your school, he
should demand one's armed. They have a couple of them.
And the first thing I said he said, he actually
said to me, Katie, I know we deterred people here
because I see them. We're in southern California. You have
a homeless copulation, you have mental problem, mental health issues,
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people going up and down the street. And he's like,
I know we've deterred people from coming in here. And
I can only say that it hits home. Those kids
were praying, and for the mayor of Minneapolis to come
out and say things like this is not the time
for purs or whatever he said. I'm not going to
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say what I said to myself. It was a cuts word.
He can go himself. But at the end of the day,
right now, I can assure you all the Catholics in
my kids school are praying because they know about it,
and any Christian around the world should be. And that
is what you do. You pray more and this is
an act. I even told our security guard today, if
you need more resources, you let us know. We will
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find the money. And I think more parents need to
get involved in knowing that. And you should know your
community at a public school or a private school, and
that you demand that somebody is outside at least protecting
because that church where my kids go to to pray
when they have masks, is more fortified than the one
probably that was there today, and I doubt that they
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had security guard because that person would have been dead
in about half a second.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Thank you for the call, Katie. I endorse everything that
she said. I said this right after the Covenant School shooting.
We have armed officers at my public school kids school.
We have armed officers at my older kids private school.
I want every school in America to have armed security
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inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody.
I think it's important buck what she just said. I
also think a lot of kids need to learn that
they can trust police officers, especially when they're young, that
police officers are their allies, not their enemies. I think
that having armed security at every school makes sense K
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to twelve public, private, all of them. I soundly endorse it,
And if your school doesn't, I would say it's probably
worth having conversations about why they don't.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I mean, you could.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You could hire right now one hundred thousand veterans and
pay them one hundred thousand dollars a year. You know,
a nice salary. You know that's it depends where they are.
I mean, if you're in a like Midwestern state, that's
a really nice salary. If you're in you know, some
of the major cities, it's a fine salary. Depends but
it's a good living. Right you're making six figures. It's
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a good living, and it cost ten billion dollars. Now,
I know that's a lot of money, but for our
federal government. I mean for the money that we you're
gonna tell me what.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
We spend on public schools that doesn't have anything to
do with direct safety of kids. Again, I want for
your kids same thing I want for my kids, public private.
I want everybody to have arm security. By the way,
she referenced the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob frey Fry.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I knew it was going to be a sorry, go ahead,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, we haven't played this
because I'm not surprised. This's the same guy who cried
and got on his knee and wept at the George
Floyd funeral. He said, now is not the time for prayer. Basically,
I think that's what she's referencing, and let's go ahead
and play it for you guys. I didn't want to
play it or early on because it's predictable, and also
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I think it actually detracts from the legitimate things we're
talking about, trying to pray for the innocent victims, the
four kids who had to potentially have surgery at the
Minneapolis are Hospital. But this is Mayor Jacob fray Fry
right after the shooting.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms
around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster.
These were Minneapolis families, these were American families, and the
amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary.
And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers
right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the
first week of school, they were in a church. These
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are kids that should be learning with their friends. They
should be playing on the playground. They should be able
to go to school or church in peace without the
fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have
the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of
basic assurances that every family should have every step of
the day, regardless of where they are in our country.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, that's different than what I thought we were playing.
He basically said, as part of this discussion, your prayers
effectively don't matter, and that is what many people are
reacting to. And what you know, frankly, is the real
conversation here should be we've got a trans terrorist. How
do we stop this from ever happening again?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, I'm the mayor of Minneapolis. Is a gut this
little weasel just putting that out there. We've seen that
for a long time, no surprise. A lot of people
have been harmed, a lot of bad things have happened
because he's a coward who thinks that you know, singing
Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together and doing vigils for
social justice instead of allowing people to be safe, you know,
in their homes and and walking.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Down the streets is important. But I would just say this, Clay,
I knew and a lot of you knew this too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Look, we don't want to do that thing here on
the show of throwing out guesses just on the gut feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But if you have I can tell you this. I
text to set it off air. We set it off air.
We were like, hey, so we'll say it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
To each other because I you know, we don't we
don't want to be we don't want to tell you
information that we have to correct. Ever, that's why we
try to be very precise as the breaking news is
coming out. And then if we're ever wrong, as you know,
we'll code rend ourselves on it and we'll come out
you know. I mean, I got one wrong recently on
the economy size. I mean, things happen. I'm still sad
about it. My point is, Clay, if you had asked me.
(30:59):
I texted my family this morning, they said who do
you think this is? And or you know, who do
you think is behind this? As soon as I saw
I was a church as kids, I'm like, this is
a left wing lune. This just sent them right away.
It was just based on what happened here. Left wing
Luna immediately went to Coventry in my head, and you
and I were talking, is that this looks like Coventry,
looks like almost a copycat to the Coventry shooting. And uh,
(31:21):
what I can tell you is when the mayor came
out and he was, you know, rending garments and crying
and all emotional about it. I'm not saying that's not
the proper response. It is the proper response. However, if
it had been a situation of a shooting and it
was a white male who was in any way identifiable
(31:41):
with Trump or with you know, guns, militia, you know
whatever and anything that is right wing coded, he would
have come out sad and then transitioned right away to
righteous indignation. Why hasn't President Trump condemned it? You know, blah,
you know exactly, But he didn't, and he did and
because he already knew that this was a Heshi situation
(32:03):
and that's what we were dealing with.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's one undred percent right. And a lot of you
are hearing all of this. MSNBC and CNN and the
New York Times and the Washington Post are going to
mostly not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting.
And if they can, I tell you what I said,
I think there's gonna be actually coverage of it in
(32:27):
this They're not really here's what they're gonna do, clay it.
And any of you are curious about this, I want
you to to, if you can stomach it, check out
like a Prime time just the opening monologue andemus. They're
going to cover this in a strictly news like, Okay,
here's what happened, everybody, Here's what happened. Here's what happened.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
And then if there's converse, they're not really going to
do analysis of it, and then tomorrow the analysis will
be on these shows. We have to be on guard
for anti trans violence from the MAGA community. This is
what they do. That is very likely.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I also think the way they'll cover it is as criticism.
They'll say Trump supporters immediately addressed the trans terrorist connection
here as if were the ones who are behaving in
an inappropriate fashion, and then you're right, it will lead
to but the trans community is actually always the victim,
(33:20):
the real victims.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And in the broader sense, they will say the real
victims of MAGA are the trans community, and you'll say,
the victims are the little children who are just shot
by this left wing psychopath who believes in all of
this left wing ideology, including his hatred of Donald Trump,
which is very explicit written on his gun, and the
(33:42):
I'm a terrorist thing, I think is a tip off
that he's a terrorist putting that out there too. All right, look,
this is no way to talk about this other than
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
In hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show, we
are following in real time and awful story out of Minneapolis.
I want to update you in the event that you
have not heard. A shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic church
has sent Two people have been killed, an eight year
(00:21):
old and a ten year old, and four We don't
know their ages, We don't know the details. According to
a Minneapolis area emergency room, have had to have emergency surgery.
We don't know if those are adults. We know nine
kids went to the hospital. We don't know if it
were two adults. We don't know exactly who had the
(00:43):
surgeries and what their latest outcome is likely to be.
But if you can pray for them, that certainly would
be important and worthy to do. Here now, as we
went to break, I said a lot of details about
the shooter now emerging. This is feeling very similar to
(01:05):
the Covenant School shooting that many of you will remember
in my hometown of Nashville, Tennessee. What happened at the
Covenant School shooting was a trans individual went in angry
at the world, angry at the church, and shot up
the place. There was a manifesto associated with it. That
(01:27):
manifesto was buried for a very long time, and if
you don't want to call it a manifesto, it was
a series of journal writings. Most people still don't know
what happened there because almost immediately much of the media
just stopped covering who the shooter was as more of
(01:47):
these details come out. This shooter appears to have posted
multiple videos on YouTube, and among the details are a
photo of Jesus as a target, a gun with kill
Donald Trump written on the side of it, a endorsement
(02:14):
of trans ideologies. This appears to have been a man
potentially trying to identify as a woman, and I believe
more details will be coming out about this. And again,
two young kids, an eight and a ten year old
killed and four needing surgery rushed to the emergency room.
(02:40):
I believe where we should be having a conversation here
is the trans community is overwhelmingly if you look at
how tiny their percentage is engaged in many different violent
acts out there, and a lot of people are going
to never hear the detail that we just shared with you.
(03:01):
A lot of people never heard the details about the
Covenant School shooting that we have shared with you on
this program, because again it's not the right kind of
person doing the shooting for the left and much of
the media. And again on the ammunition clip written is
(03:22):
where is your God? On the gun itself killed Donald
Trump a target with Jesus's head in where the head
is of a target? And do you believe in God?
Question mark written on the weapon as well. So it's
(03:44):
pretty awful and obviously something that has now become far
too common when it comes to the trans shooting community
and Buck, I honestly think that we should be having
a conversation about the drugs that we're putting these young
(04:06):
people on. We know that the transhooter at Covenant School
was all meted up with crazy amounts of hormones and
everything else. I think it will come out that there
were other aspects of medication that likely were involved in
this shooter as well. And this feels to me like
(04:30):
something that a rational, reasonable society should be talking about
in earnest now with it becoming unfortunately far too common.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, let's think this.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Let's think this through for a moment, because there's substantial
evidence now that this is a white left wing anti
Trump trans Antifa like ideology we're dealing with here, and
it's not the first time. It's very similar to what
we saw in the Covenant School shooting, and there have
been other trans shooters as well. And one thing that
is commonplace among these, and this is terrorism. This is
(05:04):
a trans terrorist, Okay, that is what happened here. This
is somebody killing for political and ideological reasons. So don't
let them drop. There are two words they're going to
want to drop from this discussion immediately, trans and terrorist,
and those are the two central words in this. This
was a because it's not about the person being transfer
se it's about somebody who is pursuing an ideology that
(05:25):
is unfortunately rammed down everybody's throats by a lot of institutions.
Now that being trans is central to your identity, that
it is immutable, even though of course it is based
on a mutable transition, right, but this is intrinsic to
who you are. Anybody who opposes this, say like the
Catholic Church, which does not support Now, the Catholic Church
(05:48):
would tell you love trans people, support trans people, help
trans people, all of which is true, all of which
is moral, and on other churches as well, though some churches,
I THNK go as so far as to say that
actually the trans thing should be celebrated for what it is.
That is a different thing. I'm saying. The Catholic Church says,
hug love, support, be good to trans individuals. That doesn't
(06:12):
necessarily mean you have to play along with the delusion.
That doesn't mean that you have to say that you
don't need help. And what we're seeing here, Clay, is
a society that aspects of it, at least corporate major corporations,
the academy meaning colleges, universities, and schools, all the way
(06:34):
down to a very little level. They have been pushing
this ideology for a long time. And now that ideology,
now that belief system of transit central to identity, is
coming up against its first real moment of reckoning. People
are finally saying no. And what they did with this
for a long time was it's about just be tolerant
of it, and people like you and me and others
(06:54):
go tolerant of it. Of course, you know, we love
trans people as people. They are brothers or sisters in
the you know, in the most general sense there fellow
human beings. Even Trump said this yesterday right. Trump said, yeah, look,
I love trans people, but I can't have seven foot
dudes playing against women. Now that's in the sports context.
You can love a trans person as a human being
(07:16):
and treat them with dignity and kindness and respect while
also saying we need to get you help. You're not
actually a woman, it's not actually true. You should get assistance,
you should get therapy, you should seek the attention of
people who can help you work through this. What we
have instead is half of society telling them this is
(07:37):
essential to who you are. Anybody who challenges or questions this, right,
they're always going to want to conflate these things. Challenging
or questioning someone's transidentity does not mean saying, you know,
hateful things, hurting someone, refusing to hire someone, doing any
of that. That's not what it is. What it is
is living in reality. Okay, those other things are bad,
(07:58):
and nobody should do those things to any person. But
what you see here is a society clay where there's
a massive schism, where half the country is telling people
like this individual, this is something to be celebrated. It's wonderful,
it's beautiful, you are whatever you say you are, and Therefore,
what are those institutions, Clay, And what are those individuals
who say, I'm sorry, I still love you as a person,
(08:22):
but what you are doing is not truth. You are
not living in truth, and I cannot go along with
the lie. I will not live by lies. I will
still love you as my fellow brother or sister human being.
I will still care for you. I want what's best
for you, But I will not live by your lie, Clay.
(08:44):
People who are already clearly emotionally unstable, who already have problems,
they're being given these two very different messages. And how
many times does this have to happen before we say
there's something deeply wrong here, there's something that has had
we have crossed a rubicon, and now we have a
problem that we have to face up to. I think
(09:04):
we've been there for a while. I think this just
solidifies that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, and I think you brought it home for me
because I hadn't really spent much time on this the
trans and I really looked into it aggressively after the
Covenant School shooting, which happened in my hometown of Nashville.
They believe that if you try to stop children from
being trans that you are committing genocide.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Genocide correct, very important to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
And if you believe that you're having genocide committed against you,
then all acts of violence in that perverted and twisted
worldview are justified because you believe that your very essence
is being targeted. Then you tie in all these other
(09:54):
different toxic stews. Buck also, on the gun that this
individual used to shoot up the Catholic school, I'm looking
at photos online as we're talking, written six million was
it enough?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And all sorts of anti Jewish sentiments as well.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Can I just say something like there's also in Russian
written on the gun for anyone, because this reminds me
when I used to go on CNN and have these
debates whenever it was a jihadis terrorists who have been
relatively quiet in this country for a while. Now to
how we're using that term, I just said, this is
a trans terrorist. Do you know what was written on
the gun in Russian? I'm a terrorist? So I'm just wondering,
(10:42):
is do any left wingers want to debate me on
this one?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
My analysis led me to this is an active terror
and this person is saying I am a terrorist. The
person who did it. I think we should listen. I
think that that's pretty clear. Burn Israel also written on
the gun. I mean, this entire weapon that he used
to kill innocent kids is populated with left wing ideology,
(11:09):
and this wedding of the left to the trans community
is creating, I think, a toxic worldview. And you really
brought it home because when you think to yourself, they
have convinced these people that if you aren't giving a
twelve year old puberty blockers, you are committing genocide against
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the trans community. They are willing to act out as
terrorists as a result. They think that they're in some
way morally justified in their perverted minds to do this.
Here's where this really really comes together, everybody, and we
just have to be honest about this all with each other.
If trying to again, like I said, doing so with love,
(11:56):
doing so with support, doing so with kindness in your heart,
but if refusing to affirm the trans identity of an individual,
and more specifically, as Clay raises, if refusing to allow
a twelve year old to take puberty blockers and have
a you know, breast removal or you know they call
it upper or bottom top or bottom surgery. If you
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or an institution are the moral equivalent of a Nazi
because you are erasing people and committing genocide for doing so,
of course there will be people who say, well, whatever
institution is standing in that way must be evil, and
they have it exactly backwards. And so why are Catholic
churches and why are Catholic children being Because this is
(12:40):
an individual who had through extreme left wing belief that
unfortunately is far the belief is far more prevalent in
this country than the violences. But that's always the case.
This is the case in jihadism and Islamism and around
the world with that too, there's the belief, and then
they're those who act on the belief. These radical left
wing beliefs have been mainstreamed, been supported throughout society, have
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been supported by corporations, by the Democrat Party, by the media,
and now we are paying a price as a society
for this because people have been convinced that what is
beautiful and good and decent and moral and righteous in
our society is actually the source of evil. And that
is why they're shooting up children in a Catholic church.
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And it is not the first time, and tragically. I
don't think it will be the last time, and it's
time we looked at this Clay. I just tweeted this
when people know I believe this. If we as a
society decided that the great civil rights struggle of our
time was elevating people with extreme schizophrenia. I know schizophrena
is on a spectrum. I know people have had schizophrenia.
I have very close friends who have had schizophrenia. I'm
(13:44):
not maligning anybody for any mental health illness, mental health.
Everybody has mental health struggles. But I'm saying extreme schizophrenia
is both crippling and pretty frightening to people who have
to deal with it. If we elevated that as a
beautiful thing that everybody must celebrate, cannot question say to
suggest that you should get treatment for this, Clay as evil.
To suggest treatment for it is evil. If we did that,
(14:07):
terrible things would happen in this country. We have done that.
It's just not what schizophrenia and now we are seeing
the outcome, and now we are seeing the reality of this,
and I think that's to be very clear on it.
I think that's all I said, and we're going to continue.
We'll take some of your talkbacks. As more of these
details are coming out again, I would expect that you
will see a lot of left wing organizations start to
(14:30):
back away because this is becoming very much of a
trend unfortunately. And look, I hated to say at six
million wasn't enough to kill Israel. Written on the gun
of this person who attacked a Catholic church this morning.
Anti Semitism has skyrocketed. There are way too many people
(14:52):
out there that are attacking people for being Jewish all
around the world, but certainly in our country and certainly
in Israel itself. And that's what the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews is trying to do. Israel is not
an easy place to live, particularly for the elderly. Thousands
of families that have lost their homes because of missile attacks.
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A donation you make to the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews, I mean, this killer went after Christians and
he wanted to go after Jews.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Two.
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You don't know what.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You don't know, right, but you could.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
On the Sunday Hang with Buck podcast, Welcome back into
Clay and Bocks. Big story we are on here today
is the continuous breaking news about this horrible shooting at
the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis. Clay, you have an update
for us which just solidifies our reporting so far and
our analysis on this.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Tell everybody, Yeah, I'm trying to avoid sharing the full name,
but Minnesota, let's just.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Say that you're gonna end up. You would end up
dead naming the person, so that's a big clue.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, Minnesota court records confirm this person who identified as
a woman with a woman's name, changed his name to
identify as a woman in twenty twenty. So the trans
terrorist aspect of this is one hundred conferrent confirmed.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is a trans terrorist, everybody, a trans terrorist in
Minneapolis just shot up a church full of little kids,
and it's believed that there was reconnaissance done in advance
that he he had sketched this out and decided I
did that he was going to go in there and
kill as many as possible. Clay Again, I don't want
to get ahead of where the facts are, but I
(17:07):
have to think that yesterday was the same shooter. They
didn't catch the shooter. Yesterday a rifle at a church
shooting it up. Someone was killed. Is there somebody else
who's going around with a rifle shooting up churches in Minneapolis.
I mean, if that's the case, that's you know, we
got even bigger problems than we realize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
This is an awful, awful story. But again to your point, yes,
and also this evokes what happened at the Covenant School
in Nashville. This is something that we should be talking
about in earnest. And I think, certainly for people who
are saying this is going to be a real conversation
(17:46):
that happens now going forward, I think beyond the shadow.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And remember the media hit the Manifesto because it was
a trans.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Terrorist there, and it's trans terrast again. And look right
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(18:56):
weighing in awful news coming out of Minneapolis, and I
do think remember when Jensaki was supposed to be the
star of MSNBC and she was going to be the
Rachel Maddow replacement. You might be wondering how people are
responding on the left to what has happened to innocent
(19:19):
eight and ten year old kids killed in Minneapolis. Jensaki tweeted,
when kids are getting shot in the pews at a
Catholic school mass, and your crime plan is to have
National Guard put mulch down around DC, maybe rethink your strategy.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
She's a moron. I mean, I know she was the
Press secretary, but that means nothing. She's a moron that
that has nothing to do with anything. But what does
trying to beautify Washington, DC have to do with a
left wing trans terrorist who probably watched MSNBC a lot,
by the way, just throwing that out there, killing a
bunch of kids in a church, Like, what, how could
(20:00):
someone's brain a functions and connect these two things? I
would say she should be ashamed of herself. But she's
an airhead. I mean, she's truly an imbecile.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
A lot of you weighing in, we haven't taken any
reactions yet. Let's hit some of this QQ Joseph in
South Carolina. I think he's actually got a really interesting
and good take. This is ninety four point three in
South Carolina or news radio station there, Joseph, South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
I think a lot of his problem is that they
should do something about these doctors performing all of this
stuff on these young kids. I know they take oath
about not hurting anybody or you know, and this is
destroying some little kid's life from twelve or thirteen or
fourteen years old. That's against they're oath. I don't understand
why they don't lose their license.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
You know what is wrong with these people.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think he hit on a really really important story
that I believe is going to grow in significance over
the next decade plus. A lot of these people who
have gotten trans surgeries are still relatively young. I think
that there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some
(21:12):
of these doctors. Because if you were twelve and you
had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor, you're gonna
suddenly wake up one day at twenty two. You're gonna
have come through puberty, you're gonna be a more knowledgeable adult,
and you're gonna sit back and say, I can't believe
(21:35):
what adults let me do to myself. The fact that
doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently
sterilized young kids when they are minors, I think you're
going to see juries are going to get some of
these cases. They are going to bankrupt some of these doctors.
(21:56):
I'm just telling you where it's coming, and we're gonna
go back and we're going to look at this. I
really believe, particularly as it pertains to young kids, as
the equivalent of when so many people were getting lobotomized
and that was considered to be just kind of standard
operating procedure for doctors. I think this is going to
(22:16):
be it's going to take financial pain raining down on
some of these doctors and hospitals that made this a
part of their business. And I think it's actually a
really kind of forward thinking comment there.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
You know, I think about just in the context. You know,
I was basically a I was a political science major
in college. This will make sense in a second everyone,
but I was really in Islamic studies major as much
as or sort of Islamic history and politics. I could
have been a double major because of all the classes,
and I remember classes I took in both disciplines. But
I remember that when they passed under Zia in Pakistan,
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they passed laws, the Hodud ordinances. It's like right around
nineteen eighty they passed laws about hand amputation, and so
you know, you can cut like the Quranic punishment cut
off your hand for stealing. One of the problems they
ran into was that actual trained doctors were like, I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
To you know, to their to their doctor's credit.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
And there's also there's been other instances, you know, the
Malaysian Medical Association, for example, under a similar in one
of the states in Malaysia refused, like the doctors refused
to do the amputations, even though the state was mandating
that this would be a punishment. They're like, sorry, we don't,
you know, we're doctors. We don't cut off healthy hands. Yeah,
and this wasn't that long ago, everybody, right, this is
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and roughly speaking in my it was in Clay's lifetime,
roughly speaking in my lifetime.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And my point here is, but doctors in this country
are removing healthy breasts or healthy genitals from people because
of feelings. Think about this. The Pakistani doctors under a
dictator who were told get ready to remove people's hands
for Koranic punishment. We're like, sorry, not doing it. But
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in this country you have major medical major medical hospitals
are children's hospitals who are saying, yeah, we're going to
give puberty blockers and We're going to remove breasts in
teenage girls.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's monstrous. I don't know what else to say. This
is monstrous stuff. They should not be doing this. I agree.
A couple of callers.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
By the way, let's start with Katie in southern California. Katie,
you say you just dropped your kids off at a
Catholic school this morning.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, I did. Kay, it's a TK through eighth grade
school here in southern California. And after I heard about
it and was getting ready for work and literally called
the security guard at our school and I said, dude,
put your head on a swivel. He already knew about it.
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Which I'm going to implore parents right now. You need
to get involved in the if you should know, if
you don't have a security guard at your school, he
should demand one's armed. They have a couple of them.
And the first thing I said he said, he actually
said to me, Katie, I know we deterred people here
because I see them. We're in southern California. You have
a homeless copulation, you have mental problem, mental health issues,
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people going up and down the street. And he's like,
I know we've deterred people from coming in here. And
I can only say that it hits home. Those kids
were praying, and for the mayor of Minneapolis to come
out and say things like this is not the time
for purs or whatever he said. I'm not going to
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say what I said to myself. It was a cuts word.
He can go himself. But at the end of the day,
right now, I can assure you all the Catholics in
my kids school are praying because they know about it,
and any Christian around the world should be. And that
is what you do. You pray more and this is
an act. I even told our security guard today, if
you need more resources, you let us know. We will
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find the money. And I think more parents need to
get involved in knowing that. And you should know your
community at a public school or a private school, and
that you demand that somebody is outside at least protecting
because that church where my kids go to to pray
when they have masks, is more fortified than the one
probably that was there today, and I doubt that they
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had security guard because that person would have been dead
in about half a second.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Thank you for the call, Katie. I endorse everything that
she said. I said this right after the Covenant School shooting.
We have armed officers at my public school kids school.
We have armed officers at my older kids private school.
I want every school in America to have armed security
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inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody.
I think it's important buck what she just said. I
also think a lot of kids need to learn that
they can trust police officers, especially when they're young, that
police officers are their allies, not their enemies. I think
that having armed security at every school makes sense K
(27:12):
to twelve public, private, all of them. I soundly endorse it,
And if your school doesn't, I would say it's probably
worth having conversations about why they don't.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I mean, you could.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
You could hire right now one hundred thousand veterans and
pay them one hundred thousand dollars a year. You know,
a nice salary. You know that's it depends where they are.
I mean, if you're in a like Midwestern state, that's
a really nice salary. If you're in you know, some
of the major cities, it's a fine salary. Depends but
it's a good living. Right you're making six figures. It's
(27:42):
a good living, and it cost ten billion dollars. Now,
I know that's a lot of money, but for our
federal government. I mean for the money that we you're
gonna tell me what.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
We spend on public schools that doesn't have anything to
do with direct safety of kids. Again, I want for
your kids same thing I want for my kids, public private.
I want everybody to have arm security. By the way,
she referenced the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob frey Fry.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I knew it was going to be a sorry, go ahead,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I was just gonna say, we haven't played this
because I'm not surprised. This's the same guy who cried
and got on his knee and wept at the George
Floyd funeral. He said, now is not the time for prayer. Basically,
I think that's what she's referencing, and let's go ahead
and play it for you guys. I didn't want to
play it or early on because it's predictable, and also
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I think it actually detracts from the legitimate things we're
talking about, trying to pray for the innocent victims, the
four kids who had to potentially have surgery at the
Minneapolis are Hospital. But this is Mayor Jacob fray Fry
right after the shooting.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms
around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster.
These were Minneapolis families, these were American families, and the
amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary.
And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers
right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the
first week of school, they were in a church. These
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are kids that should be learning with their friends. They
should be playing on the playground. They should be able
to go to school or church in peace without the
fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have
the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of
basic assurances that every family should have every step of
the day, regardless of where they are in our country.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Okay, that's different than what I thought we were playing.
He basically said, as part of this discussion, your prayers
effectively don't matter, and that is what many people are
reacting to. And what you know, frankly, is the real
conversation here should be we've got a trans terrorist. How
do we stop this from ever happening again?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, I'm the mayor of Minneapolis. Is a gut this
little weasel just putting that out there. We've seen that
for a long time, no surprise. A lot of people
have been harmed, a lot of bad things have happened
because he's a coward who thinks that you know, singing
Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together and doing vigils for
social justice instead of allowing people to be safe, you know,
in their homes and and walking.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Down the streets is important. But I would just say this, Clay,
I knew and a lot of you knew this too.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Look, we don't want to do that thing here on
the show of throwing out guesses just on the gut feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But if you have I can tell you this. I
text to set it off air. We set it off air.
We were like, hey, so we'll say it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
To each other because I you know, we don't we
don't want to be we don't want to tell you
information that we have to correct. Ever, that's why we
try to be very precise as the breaking news is
coming out. And then if we're ever wrong, as you know,
we'll code rend ourselves on it and we'll come out
you know. I mean, I got one wrong recently on
the economy size. I mean, things happen. I'm still sad
about it. My point is, Clay, if you had asked me.
(30:59):
I texted my family this morning, they said who do
you think this is? And or you know, who do
you think is behind this? As soon as I saw
I was a church as kids, I'm like, this is
a left wing lune. This just sent them right away.
It was just based on what happened here. Left wing
Luna immediately went to Coventry in my head, and you
and I were talking, is that this looks like Coventry,
looks like almost a copycat to the Coventry shooting. And uh,
(31:21):
what I can tell you is when the mayor came
out and he was, you know, rending garments and crying
and all emotional about it. I'm not saying that's not
the proper response. It is the proper response. However, if
it had been a situation of a shooting and it
was a white male who was in any way identifiable
(31:41):
with Trump or with you know, guns, militia, you know
whatever and anything that is right wing coded, he would
have come out sad and then transitioned right away to
righteous indignation. Why hasn't President Trump condemned it? You know, blah,
you know exactly, But he didn't, and he did and
because he already knew that this was a Heshi situation
(32:03):
and that's what we were dealing with.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's one undred percent right. And a lot of you
are hearing all of this. MSNBC and CNN and the
New York Times and the Washington Post are going to
mostly not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting.
And if they can, I tell you what I said,
I think there's gonna be actually coverage of it in
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this They're not really here's what they're gonna do, clay it.
And any of you are curious about this, I want
you to to, if you can stomach it, check out
like a Prime time just the opening monologue andemus. They're
going to cover this in a strictly news like, Okay,
here's what happened, everybody, Here's what happened. Here's what happened.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
And then if there's converse, they're not really going to
do analysis of it, and then tomorrow the analysis will
be on these shows. We have to be on guard
for anti trans violence from the MAGA community. This is
what they do. That is very likely.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I also think the way they'll cover it is as criticism.
They'll say Trump supporters immediately addressed the trans terrorist connection
here as if were the ones who are behaving in
an inappropriate fashion, and then you're right, it will lead
to but the trans community is actually always the victim,
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the real victims.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And in the broader sense, they will say the real
victims of MAGA are the trans community, and you'll say,
the victims are the little children who are just shot
by this left wing psychopath who believes in all of
this left wing ideology, including his hatred of Donald Trump,
which is very explicit written on his gun, and the
(33:42):
I'm a terrorist thing, I think is a tip off
that he's a terrorist putting that out there too. All right, look,
this is no way to talk about this other than
a big hard turn. Let's let's let's all shake off
for a second. We're talking about really serious stuff. I'm
taking you to a totally different direction for a minute.
So take a breather, take a breath, and get ready
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We got a quick turnaround, so just going to tell
you where we're going to the next hour. More conversation
here about the trans terrorist shooting up in Minnesota in
Minneapolis at the Annunciation Church and Clay, there's a lot
of conversation we had about this. We'll also talk to
our friend David Rutherford, who's a dad, a patriot, a
(35:53):
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security aspects here. What he thinks about putting particularly I
think more ve terrans who are trained with firearms in
places to just provide us more security, especially in gathering places,
religious institution, schools. We're talking about all that coming up
here in a few minutes. With Dave Rutherford, and in
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