September 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the evolving dynamics within the Democratic Party, highlighting internal conflicts and potential 2028 presidential contenders. The hour opens with analysis of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (AOC) rumored ambitions to run for either president or the U.S. Senate, challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. The hosts explore AOC’s political trajectory, her branding strategy, and her influence on the progressive wing of the party, while contrasting her youth and media appeal with Schumer’s establishment credentials and age. The conversation shifts to President Donald Trump’s enduring energy and dominance in the political landscape, emphasizing his resilience and continued influence despite attempts to question his age and fitness. The hosts argue that Trump remains a “force of nature,” drawing comparisons to the perceived decline of other political figures. A major segment of Hour 2 focuses on the tragic assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. The hosts discuss the disturbing details surrounding the alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, including his online radicalization, psychological instability, and involvement in fringe internet subcultures. This leads to a broader critique of Gen Z’s vulnerability to social contagion, particularly around gender identity and mental health. Referencing data from Gallup and the Williams Institute, the show highlights the exponential rise in transgender and non-binary identification among youth, linking it to online echo chambers and cultural shifts. The hour also includes commentary on Vice President Kamala Harris’s political maneuvering, her new book, and her past decisions regarding potential running mates like Pete Buttigieg and Josh Shapiro. The hosts analyze the challenges Democrats face in balancing identity politics with electability, especially in key swing states.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of play in Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here. Well, let's talk about Democrats,
don't It's always a fun one talk about the Democrats.
I will give you. I had an update for you
on the Charlie Kirkis fass and what we know about him,
(00:23):
very troubling stuff. We'll get to that at the bottom
of this hour, because I wanted to first dive into
this the Democrat situation leadership wise, and this piece in Axios,
which I saw it said AOC i's twenty twenty eight
presidential run. And now the headline that I'm seeing is
(00:44):
AOC's twenty twenty eight decision run for president or Senate.
So it feels like they're already downgrading this a little
bit from what I initially saw. But here's what they're saying.
AOC and her team are positioning for her to run
for president of the or the US, not president of
the Senate, president or the US Senate in twenty twenty eight.
(01:06):
According to her, people could shake up the presidential race
if it were to be Senate Senate Minority leader Chuck
Schumer seventy four is up for reelection in twenty twenty eight.
I think she would beat Chuck Schumer. I really do
remember she pushed out. I forget who the guy was.
He was a senior Democrat guy in the house, though,
(01:29):
who just got really entitled and lazy and didn't really
want to fight for his seat. I can't remember his
name now it's been a while, but she was an
upstart and she managed to beat him. For that's an
I love watching Democrat infighting is always fun, right, It's
like watching you want both sides to lose, so whatever
they do to each other so entertaining. But I think
(01:51):
that AOC would be formidable Schumer when it comes to funding,
and he knows the game and he's got the donors
and all that shore. But he's going to be the
seventy what is he gonna be? Seventy six, seventy seven,
what he's up for reelection? The guy's gonna be looking
at eighty years old. AOC is a whole lot younger,
and I do think the dynamic has changed a little
(02:13):
bit now. Joe Crowley, thank you, team Joe Crowley. Was
you AOC beat? I think the dynamic has changed a
bit now in a post Biden public meltdown era, where
now it really it really hits when somebody says, look
at that guy or that gal too old for that
(02:33):
position of power. Right now. I know they want to
do this with Trump, but it doesn't work because Trump
is still a force of nature. Right This guy is
the energy and the you know this, This is just true.
Even honest people who despise Trump are willing to admit
that the guy has just an unbelievable zest for the game,
(02:58):
for being out there, for doing press conferences, for doing
live events, and then you know, playing eighteen holes and
then you know, traveling to this place and traveling to
that place and having the conferences. And he's incredible that way.
So that's why it doesn't work. If Trump wasn't apparent
in his physical capability, then they would be pushing this
(03:18):
a lot, obviously in a post Biden era. But you know,
Chuck Schumer, I mean, he's getting up there. He looks
like he's lost a step, and you know, senate term
six years is really gonna be anyway. I think she
could be formidable for Schumer, But in my mind, she's
gonna run for president. Well, why wait, you think they
think she's going to be patient and take the long
(03:40):
view on this one and now run for president. Because,
as I've said, and I do really believe this, running
for president has become for a lot of people just
a branding exercise. It's something that allows a person to
get their name out there, to build their social media,
which matters in elections. Now, this in politics, So I
(04:04):
could see this absolutely being the case. Now, the problems
that she'll come up against are she's far left. She's
kind of a phony in a lot of ways. Right,
As you know, she's like AOC from the Bronx, except
she's from Westchester, so and those are not similar places. Really.
There are some very nice parts of the Bronx, and
(04:26):
there are some very very upscale, expensive parts of the Bronx,
and that's sure. But she's pretended to be from the
the mean streets of the Bronx and that's just not true.
So she's up as somebody also who is very left wing,
as we know, and that will be an issue for it.
(04:47):
But I think the bigger problem is she is not,
in fact very bright, and that is a reality that
will be hard for her to cover. We're up for
very long. I mean, for example, after after Charlie Kirk's assassination,
here's AOC this is cut fifteen calling for gun control
(05:13):
play fifteen. I mean, listen.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I know this might be a point of disagreement amongst
some folks, but I think that our common sense kind
of gun safety measures are so passed to beyond in
terms of us being able to pass this.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This isn't about taking anyone's.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Guns away, because this isn't about attacking Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's about how do we get to a point where
people who are at risk of committing domestic violence, who
are at risk of committing violence can so easily gain
access to deadly weapons such as these, And so to me,
it's time to pass common sense and gun safety measures,
(05:53):
the kind of things that responsible gun owners also support.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What she says is just completely it's just uh pablum.
It's it's nothing, it's nonsense. What would be the common
sense gun safety measure that would apply to the assassination
or the assassin of Charlie Kirk? What what would it
have been? What would it what would have stopped this?
(06:21):
If you're talking about the weapon, which is what democrats
almost always focus on it was a bold action rifle.
So now where it's just saying you can't have If
you can't have a bold action rifle, you can't have
a firearm. Period. This is what the uh A lot
of the Democrats say, well, I have no problem with
(06:44):
with hunters. You know, when they put tim Walls out there,
it was like holding a shotgun upside down looks like uh,
you know, a less masculine version of Elmer Fudd, you know,
and he's like, oh, he's like, I like to go hunting.
You know, No, the second moment is not about hunting.
It's a nice, nice thing to be able to do
with your firearm, but it's not about hunting. As you know,
(07:04):
it's a defense against tyranny. It's the inherent right of
self defense and defense against the tyrannical state that we
all have and that the founders recognized. But they would
usually say things. Democrats would say things like, wow, you
know you don't need one hundred rounds to kill a
deer or something. So yeah, but if you're taking away
both action rifles, now, now there's no firearm that somebody's
(07:27):
gonna be able to have. So on the actual weapon
the actual tool the firearm. Here, there's no gun control
law that anybody could even begin to talk about that
isn't just the absolute confiscation of all firearms. Because if
you can't have a both action rifle, you can't have anything.
You definitely can't have a semi auto rifle, you definitely
can't have a pistol. I mean, you go down the list,
(07:47):
it's absurd. And then she brings up well, to stop
people that are prone to violence from getting access to
a gun, Okay, there are laws about this. You have
to fill out a form, you have to say whether
you've been involuntarily committed. I mean, there are these things,
there are these steps in the process. There is a
background check, but none of that would have caught this individual.
(08:12):
So what really And it's interesting that there was some
brief conversation about making the mental health status of somebody
who is transgender a possible barrier to firearms ownership. That's
an interesting conversation. You know, the NRA publicly came out
(08:33):
against it. It's an interesting conversation. And Democrats don't want that.
That they don't want because that also brings up the
issue of whether transgenderism or gender dysphoria, as it was
formerly called and listed in the DSM. Gender dysphoria is
a mental health condition that in any way could be
(08:55):
a precursor to people that are a danger. This is
that's the conversation that it brings up. Is what the conversation.
That's what they didn't want to have. Uh So I
would just note that AOC on any number of issues
is going to do very poorly if she has to,
if she has to actually explain her positions to the
(09:16):
American people. But she won't really have to explain them.
You know, she's young, she's dynamic, she's telegenic. We're in
a a media obsessed world and a media obsessed culture
and politics increasingly. You know, it does feel like a
game show, unfortunately, and it is. It is very similar
(09:37):
to it in many ways. Now it's just about you know,
who's famous and who's who's getting attention and who's getting
talked about. So I think she is almost certain to
run for president. As I said all along. Something else
that has been interesting to me in in this whole process, though,
is where does that leave good old Gavin, good old
(09:57):
Gavin Newsom. Well, he is right now, the standard bearer
of the Democrat Party. He is the guy who he
thinks can coast into that role. Well, what's the obvious
move here, gab it at the top of the ticket,
AOC at the bottom of the ticket. That way they
(10:18):
can do the preparing for the future thing newsoam has
the you know, the experience and everything else. It is
also the case that you've had two female nominees for
the Democrats who have both lost back to back, not
back to back, but have both lost in succession, so
you know Hillary and then Kamala, So they would have
(10:39):
a guy at the top of the Democrat ticket. In
that case, you'd have some diversity with AOC at the
bottom of gender and she is a Latina, So that
would make Democrats happy, and it would make the left
feel like they would have a powerful voice inside the administration.
I just think that we already know that's where it's
got to go. It's going to be at the top
(11:00):
of the ticket, AOC at the bottom of the ticket.
I think this is I don't want to say it's preordained.
A lot of things can happen between now and then,
and I understand that Mom Donnie's probably going to become
who has a lot of similarities to AOC ideologically and
everything else. He's probably going to become the mayor of
New York City, but it's gonna take him a while
to make New York worse. It's gonna take a little
(11:22):
bit of time, and he's a going to be someone
that they will just say, well, that's New York. And
I don't think that he's going to drag down, for example, AOC,
certainly at a Democrat primary. So this is where I
see it going. As you're wondering how the Democrat Party
is going to shake out, I think eventually it will
just it will be clear that they need an established,
(11:43):
an older establishment figure, not as old as Biden, because
we all know how that ended up. But you're gonna
have Gavin Newsom, and then you will have to make
things more interesting. You will have AOC at the bottom
of the ticket. I think that is where is all going.
And I tend to be right on these things, so
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I wanted to get some more of your calls and
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else to discuss here for a moment. Where does Kamala
factor into all of this? Kamala has a book outs,
(13:55):
and I believe our esteemed friend and co host, mister
Clay Travis plans on attending one of the book tour
stops with a right producer rally, a future is female
t shirt on and perhaps a man bun. I think
if he's going man bun, he should also have to
(14:15):
dye a patch of his hair purple, because I don't
want him to be you know, I don't want him
to be made. I don't want his cover to be blown.
I think he goes purple patch, maybe just the not
the top nine, if you will. From the man bun
can be purple, and that way he'll really fit in.
He needs glasses though, with big thick rims, you need
(14:35):
big thick rim glasses. So he is considering going. I
think he is going to go. And I guess I
have to now get Kamala's book. One hundred and seven days.
That's how long it will feel like I am reading
this book. I am sure about Kamala's ill fated run
(14:56):
for the presidency. But one thing that I have found
interesting in all of this is she starting to try
to settle some scores here and there. There's a little
bit of that going on. And she straight up said, look,
I didn't pick Pete Butter Judge because the whole gay
thing and that was going to be a problem. I
(15:18):
didn't say it like that, but I mean she's saying that.
That's why she was concerned that Pete Butter Judge would
be an issue, because he's a member of the LGBTQIA
plus community, and Pete Bouta Judge has responded to her
on this play nineteen. I was surprised when I read that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just believe in giving Americans more credit than that.
You know, my experience in politics has been that the
way that you earn trust with voters is based mostly
on what they think you're going to do for their lives,
not on categories. And I wouldn't have run for president
if I didn't believe that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Kamala Harris said her first choice was Pete Buddha Judge,
but she wasn't willing to do it, so she went
with Adam Wall, I mean Tim Wall, sorry, Tim Walls. Instead,
Pete Buddha Judge was her first choice. Now we said
(16:19):
this along, you will remember if she was going to
try to win, the move was Joshapiro in Pennsylvania. Now
I understand the Michigan issue with that, which is he
got a lot of Muslims that don't want to vote
for the Jewish guy, Joshapiro. That's just the truth. This
is what all the data shows, and Democrats realize they've
got this coalition of people who are in many ways
(16:44):
just kind of united by well socialism, antipathy toward traditional
America and Americana. But there's also a lot of group
rivalries and problems because of the identity politics coalition that
they've cobbled together. Part of that is they got a
lot of Muslim immigrants to America who don't like Jews
(17:05):
and don't like gays and won't vote for them. That's
the truth. That's why she has to make these That's
why she didn't go Joshuapiro and why she didn't go
with a Buddha Judge. Although it's beyond just the Muslim
voters of Dearborn that the Buddha Judge is an issue
for as we know the problem that the Democrat Party
has with that. And this is where I do it
(17:28):
would be good to have Clay here because the way
he says it, you know, I put it delicately. Sometimes
he puts it a little less delicately. But let's just
say that Pete Buddha Judge has weakness with male African
American voters in the Democrat Party's that's putting it mildly.
(17:48):
But yeah, Kamala, you're seeing the calculations that she made.
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going to really be a surprise, i think, to anyone,
but it just goes to thepravity and clear just evil
of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin here that he They
(19:17):
now have been looking into his online activities and his
online profile, so the kind of things that he would do,
sites he would go to. All of this part of
it is to tract communications, which the FBI must do
because there is still the possibility of co conspirators or
those who may have aided and embedded the assassination of
(19:40):
our dearly departed friend Charlie Kirk. But what they found
is really disgusting stuff, and again not a surprise given
what we already knew about this person. There's something, there's
a very basic part of your humanity and a very
(20:06):
clear part of your soul that you would have to
have shut out and smothered to be able to put
the sights of a rifle on someone having a peaceful
exchange of ideas on a college campus, completely defenseless. I
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might add, you know, this isn't someone who said, you know,
I'll meet you at high noon and we'll see may
the best man win. This is the cowardly shot of
an assassin, a sniper against an unarmed and defenseless person
and a father, a husband, And the fact of I
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still the part of this that is just I'm haunted
by it. To know, many of you are the visual
the videos of what happened to Charlie, which I do
not ever want to see again. But at the time
we were all watching it, we all saw and that
just the thought of his children and his wife, it
hits all of us. And we're obviously never going to
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forget Charlie's legacy and all the brilliant and fantastic things
that he did and was doing for this country. We're
also not going to be able to forget the trauma though,
of what happened to him, and we shouldn't forget it.
But it's painful. It's painful, and I would feel that
way if what happened had happened to somebody who was
(21:33):
a staunch you know, if it was the same set
of circumstances to a staunch Democrat who was part of
a major movement. You know, if they had done this
to some big name democrat, I would be horrified by
this and horrified by what it has done to that
person's family and so forth. You know that we all
know that. And so when you look at what kind
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of a person could do that this Tyler Robinson, it's
the kind of person who, according to the New York
Post here, played furry porn video games. Now, I will
tell you I am reasonably informed of things in this world,
(22:18):
because for my job, I have to just know about
as much as I possibly can. I had never until
reading this article heard of a furry porn video game.
But if you just go through the words in your head,
you will understand more or less what we're talking about here.
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And this guy was going into the hardcore and deep, dark,
scary corners of the twisted sexual Internet. And this was
part of his radicalization process. This is part of what
led this man. Like I said, you have to have
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darkened your soul, you have to have suppressed that basic
part of your humanity to have done what this person did.
There's something satanic that is central to this act. You
must have whether you you know, whether he believes in
Satan or not, there must have been you know, whether
(23:23):
it was like a Satanist or not. There must have
been a devil at the center of this process, because
otherwise you couldn't do it. And I think that there's
a broader problem here, and it is this. The movement,
this trans and all the letters and everything else is
(23:48):
creating more and more space for really bizarre and depraved
sexual stuff online. It does get talked about, certainly by
the media that supports this stuff in general, but it's
real and it's there, and you know the number of people,
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for example, who are being pushed down this path with
there's this this Scott Atlas, you know, who's a well
known doctor and you know an MD and was involved
with speaking out against COVID. Used to have him on
my show during that period and he's now you know,
it's serving in the it served in the Trump administration. Uh,
he wrote an op ed. I was just reading it.
(24:32):
It's looking at the prevalence of people who are or
who are Q or questioning or intersects as a function
of gen Z, which again this is the alleged Charlie
Kirk assassin, the assassin. He's a gen Z person by age.
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And the increase is in the thousands of percentile points,
you know, thousands of percentage points. So it's ten fifteen
times or more increase in people who are identifying this way.
And that is here you go. This is from the
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Scott Atlas piece. Gen Z's psychological frailty sets the stage
for unique vulnerability to social contagion suggested by the explosion
of gender confusion. Transgender identification among young adults surge from
zero point five nine percent in twenty fourteen to three
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point zero eight percent in twenty twenty three, a four
hundred and twenty two percent increase, with non binary identities
up one thousand, two hundred and sixty percent and transgender
men quadrupling three hundred and nine percent, driven by social media,
echo chamber and peer pressure gallups. Twenty twenty five poll
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shows LGBTQ plus identification at nine point three percent overall,
nearly triple three point five percent in twenty twelve, doubling
in five years, with over twenty three percent of Gen
Z identifying as such. A twenty twenty five poll from
the Williams Institute estimates over seven hundred and twenty four
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thousand transgender youth in America. This confusion pushes use toward youth,
toward drastic measures like mutilative surgeries, and fuels mental health crises.
This also notes, by the way that only thirteen percent
of d transitioners will receive any support at all from
LGBT organizations. So they'll all help you trans quote transition,
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but if you want to detransition. You're on your own?
Why is that? Why should there be such an agenda.
Isn't it about helping people, helping people in crisis? Not
a lot of d transit something you don't even hear
about very much, do you? Why do I bring these
things all? Why am I talking about this? And the
talking about the assassin because he's gen Z and he
(27:10):
was in love with a transferry. This is this is
deeply psychologically and emotionally destabilizing stuff. This is sicko, weirdo stuff. Okay,
you know what, I know it. We all know it.
Something very wrong here. And he doesn't come from a
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background at all that would you know, be indicative of
this kind of a trend. It's one thing when you
see and I get start to name them, but all
these celebrities, all these I love. By the way, Hollywood
people finally realize Hollywood is gross. It has so much
less cultural power and impact that it used to know.
(27:51):
I mean, if you look up to celebrities now, like
Hollywood actors, you really, you know, you really don't know
anything about anything, right, I mean, you want to enjoy
a movie once in a while with some of these,
you know, schmo's that's fine, but you know, we don't
look off to them. We'll go that actor he said
this or she said that. But it's one thing when
one of these actors says, oh, I have like a
trans kid, I got a non binary kid, I got
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a you know, I got I got a kid who's trans,
non binary, furry and questioning, you go, okay, that's the
that's the parents projecting their psychoses and neuroses onto their kids.
Like it's very obvious, right, It's no surprise that the
left wing radicals have these kids who can't just grow
up and like the boys play with trucks and then
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go through puberty and find girls. All of a sudden,
they go through puberty and they think girls are pretty,
and then they want to be around girls, you know,
in their teenage years more and or you know, at
some point of their teenage years, and then they want
to get married and have babies. That can't be that.
There has to be some other thing that they are
pushed towards. In the case of the Charlie kirkis Assen,
though it was online and it was the institutions like
(29:01):
maybe his I don't know what his high school was
but in this case, I think, primarily online, this ideological
ecosystem and echo chamber that is constantly reinforcing, pushing this
stuff and reinforcing this stuff. And I told you I
saw this with gihannis radicalization. There were people who.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Would become willing to murder innocence, including women and children,
in the name of jihad, mostly based on watching YouTube videos.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This is real, This can happen. This kind of brainwashing
in this case, really a form of self brainwashing is possible.
It does happen, and it happened with this shooter. But
in this case it's this depraved gender transgender identity stuff
(29:57):
all mixed into this which can completely unmore anybody. But
you know, a young man, I mean, can you imagine,
you know, maybe all these messages this guy is watching.
I'm trying to remember even what you call this. It's
like transfurry porn video games in his spare time. This
(30:20):
guy's a sick, weirdo. And even apart from what we
know about the violence, and and you know, the the
murder of Charlie Kirk, which of course is the worst
thing of all, but this guy's got problems. And yet
the Left is always telling you that they want to
they want to make more space for this stuff. You
gotta be more tolerant of this stuff. This is this
(30:42):
is just the way people are. Well, you know, maybe
it shouldn't be the way people are. Maybe you should
be able to say, you know, if you're if you
find yourself as a gen Z person not knowing whether
you are attracted to men or women, or whether you're
a man or a woman, and whether you should watch
you know, furry porn online or you're watching for report online. Rather,
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you need help. This should not be encouraged. This should
not be called part of a civil rights crusade. There's
something very sick and evil and twisted that is going
on here, and they are going after our youth with
this people eighteen to twenty five. We see the numbers,
(31:26):
we see the reality, and they're they're radicalized into this.
You know, we don't have good terminology really yet for
what to call this. I mean leftism, sure, you know,
gender identity stuff, trans cult there's all these different things.
But something has happened here because you can't tell me
that some guy who grows up with in an otherwise
(31:48):
normal and stable family in you know, I think Utah
with a dad in law enforcement. This guy ends up
by the time he's college age, watching transfer cartoon porn
or whatever and is in love with a transferrey himself.
And you can't tell me that there's not something really
(32:08):
wrong with the influences that he is subjected to online
and buy this digital culture. And we have to figure
out ways to counteract this, to fight against this, to
shut this stuff down, to push this stuff, you know,
(32:28):
out of as far out of the mainstream, certainly as possible,
because the left is always trying to mainstream this stuff.
The left always gets angry. We say, you know, I
don't think we should have kids able to access hardcore
pornography online. So let's put some things in place, and oh,
you know who has problems with it? The left always, oh,
you know what I mean? Free speech? No, I don't think.
(32:49):
I don't think a third grader being able to find,
you know, easily some of that without age verification stuff,
find some of the stuff that we all know it's
freely online. It's not a free speech issue, okay. And
this is a demonic argument to make that they make
if remember that I'll take your calls here in a
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you live a few minutes away from uvu in an Aorum.
Tell us what's going on?
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I do so. First of all, I am super unique
to you. I am a single, educated, conservative religious hr professional?
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Wow? Hi. I was like, no, you sound like everyone
in our audience, and then it was oh, hr professional, okay, nice.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Well hopefully professionals.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, good Joe. We did. By the way, I want
to be very clear about something. We need our people
like good sane people in all the professions so that
none of the p Russians are dominated by communist maniacs anymore. Because,
as you know, if you wanted to keep out people
for whatever reason, there's so many ways you could play
that game anyway. But I'm glad you're doing that. What
(35:11):
else did you want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Also? Is there any way that you can add hot
chocolate to your Crockett Coffee for those of us who
don't drink coffee, is there?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know what, I will one hundred percent. I'll bring
that up to our chief of ops, my brother Mason,
and uh and yeah, I think we actually probably can
do that. I would love to do that. I'm I
love hot chocolate, so I'm into it. I will pass
that along.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And I have a doodle dog, so I follow along
your ginger stories. They're my favorite. So I live in Utah.
I actually went to YU which is ten minutes down
the road, and I was going to be the next
caller last week, right before you guys found out decide
how an opinion on whatever the topic was. But uvu
(35:56):
is I might start crying. Is like ten minutes for me.
And they're holding a vigil today at four o'clock. I
know people who were there. I know people who saw it.
I know people who teach there. I drive by there
regularly to go to Trader Joe's and my parents was
ten minutes away from Washington County. And I can tell
(36:17):
you that it's rock this community, like it's it's been
very emotional, like nothing ever happens here.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I can I can imagine it has been really traumatic,
but our thoughts and prayers are with you, and thank
you for calling in. From Orum and team, we'll be
right back
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of play in Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you for being here. Well, let's talk about Democrats,
don't It's always a fun one talk about the Democrats.
I will give you. I had an update for you
on the Charlie Kirkis fass and what we know about him,
(00:23):
very troubling stuff. We'll get to that at the bottom
of this hour, because I wanted to first dive into
this the Democrat situation leadership wise, and this piece in Axios,
which I saw it said AOC i's twenty twenty eight
presidential run. And now the headline that I'm seeing is
(00:44):
AOC's twenty twenty eight decision run for president or Senate.
So it feels like they're already downgrading this a little
bit from what I initially saw. But here's what they're saying.
AOC and her team are positioning for her to run
for president of the or the US, not president of
the Senate, president or the US Senate in twenty twenty eight.
(01:06):
According to her, people could shake up the presidential race
if it were to be Senate Senate Minority leader Chuck
Schumer seventy four is up for reelection in twenty twenty eight.
I think she would beat Chuck Schumer. I really do
remember she pushed out. I forget who the guy was.
He was a senior Democrat guy in the house, though,
(01:29):
who just got really entitled and lazy and didn't really
want to fight for his seat. I can't remember his
name now it's been a while, but she was an
upstart and she managed to beat him. For that's an
I love watching Democrat infighting is always fun, right, It's
like watching you want both sides to lose, so whatever
they do to each other so entertaining. But I think
(01:51):
that AOC would be formidable Schumer when it comes to funding,
and he knows the game and he's got the donors
and all that shore. But he's going to be the
seventy what is he gonna be? Seventy six, seventy seven,
what he's up for reelection? The guy's gonna be looking
at eighty years old. AOC is a whole lot younger,
and I do think the dynamic has changed a little
(02:13):
bit now. Joe Crowley, thank you, team Joe Crowley. Was
you AOC beat? I think the dynamic has changed a
bit now in a post Biden public meltdown era, where
now it really it really hits when somebody says, look
at that guy or that gal too old for that
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position of power. Right now. I know they want to
do this with Trump, but it doesn't work because Trump
is still a force of nature. Right This guy is
the energy and the you know this, This is just true.
Even honest people who despise Trump are willing to admit
that the guy has just an unbelievable zest for the game,
(02:58):
for being out there, for doing press conferences, for doing
live events, and then you know, playing eighteen holes and
then you know, traveling to this place and traveling to
that place and having the conferences. And he's incredible that way.
So that's why it doesn't work. If Trump wasn't apparent
in his physical capability, then they would be pushing this
(03:18):
a lot, obviously in a post Biden era. But you know,
Chuck Schumer, I mean, he's getting up there. He looks
like he's lost a step, and you know, senate term
six years is really gonna be anyway. I think she
could be formidable for Schumer, But in my mind, she's
gonna run for president. Well, why wait, you think they
think she's going to be patient and take the long
(03:40):
view on this one and now run for president. Because,
as I've said, and I do really believe this, running
for president has become for a lot of people just
a branding exercise. It's something that allows a person to
get their name out there, to build their social media,
which matters in elections. Now, this in politics, So I
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could see this absolutely being the case. Now, the problems
that she'll come up against are she's far left. She's
kind of a phony in a lot of ways. Right,
As you know, she's like AOC from the Bronx, except
she's from Westchester, so and those are not similar places. Really.
There are some very nice parts of the Bronx, and
(04:26):
there are some very very upscale, expensive parts of the Bronx,
and that's sure. But she's pretended to be from the
the mean streets of the Bronx and that's just not true.
So she's up as somebody also who is very left wing,
as we know, and that will be an issue for it.
(04:47):
But I think the bigger problem is she is not,
in fact very bright, and that is a reality that
will be hard for her to cover. We're up for
very long. I mean, for example, after after Charlie Kirk's assassination,
here's AOC this is cut fifteen calling for gun control
(05:13):
play fifteen. I mean, listen.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I know this might be a point of disagreement amongst
some folks, but I think that our common sense kind
of gun safety measures are so passed to beyond in
terms of us being able to pass this.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This isn't about taking anyone's.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Guns away, because this isn't about attacking Second Amendment.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's about how do we get to a point where
people who are at risk of committing domestic violence, who
are at risk of committing violence can so easily gain
access to deadly weapons such as these, And so to me,
it's time to pass common sense and gun safety measures,
(05:53):
the kind of things that responsible gun owners also support.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What she says is just completely it's just uh pablum.
It's it's nothing, it's nonsense. What would be the common
sense gun safety measure that would apply to the assassination
or the assassin of Charlie Kirk? What what would it
have been? What would it what would have stopped this?
(06:21):
If you're talking about the weapon, which is what democrats
almost always focus on it was a bold action rifle.
So now where it's just saying you can't have If
you can't have a bold action rifle, you can't have
a firearm. Period. This is what the uh A lot
of the Democrats say, well, I have no problem with
(06:44):
with hunters. You know, when they put tim Walls out there,
it was like holding a shotgun upside down looks like uh,
you know, a less masculine version of Elmer Fudd, you know,
and he's like, oh, he's like, I like to go hunting.
You know, No, the second moment is not about hunting.
It's a nice, nice thing to be able to do
with your firearm, but it's not about hunting. As you know,
(07:04):
it's a defense against tyranny. It's the inherent right of
self defense and defense against the tyrannical state that we
all have and that the founders recognized. But they would
usually say things. Democrats would say things like, wow, you
know you don't need one hundred rounds to kill a
deer or something. So yeah, but if you're taking away
both action rifles, now, now there's no firearm that somebody's
(07:27):
gonna be able to have. So on the actual weapon
the actual tool the firearm. Here, there's no gun control
law that anybody could even begin to talk about that
isn't just the absolute confiscation of all firearms. Because if
you can't have a both action rifle, you can't have anything.
You definitely can't have a semi auto rifle, you definitely
can't have a pistol. I mean, you go down the list,
(07:47):
it's absurd. And then she brings up well, to stop
people that are prone to violence from getting access to
a gun, Okay, there are laws about this. You have
to fill out a form, you have to say whether
you've been involuntarily committed. I mean, there are these things,
there are these steps in the process. There is a
background check, but none of that would have caught this individual.
(08:12):
So what really And it's interesting that there was some
brief conversation about making the mental health status of somebody
who is transgender a possible barrier to firearms ownership. That's
an interesting conversation. You know, the NRA publicly came out
(08:33):
against it. It's an interesting conversation. And Democrats don't want that.
That they don't want because that also brings up the
issue of whether transgenderism or gender dysphoria, as it was
formerly called and listed in the DSM. Gender dysphoria is
a mental health condition that in any way could be
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a precursor to people that are a danger. This is
that's the conversation that it brings up. Is what the conversation.
That's what they didn't want to have. Uh So I
would just note that AOC on any number of issues
is going to do very poorly if she has to,
if she has to actually explain her positions to the
(09:16):
American people. But she won't really have to explain them.
You know, she's young, she's dynamic, she's telegenic. We're in
a a media obsessed world and a media obsessed culture
and politics increasingly. You know, it does feel like a
game show, unfortunately, and it is. It is very similar
(09:37):
to it in many ways. Now it's just about you know,
who's famous and who's who's getting attention and who's getting
talked about. So I think she is almost certain to
run for president. As I said all along. Something else
that has been interesting to me in in this whole process, though,
is where does that leave good old Gavin, good old
(09:57):
Gavin Newsom. Well, he is right now, the standard bearer
of the Democrat Party. He is the guy who he
thinks can coast into that role. Well, what's the obvious
move here, gab it at the top of the ticket,
AOC at the bottom of the ticket. That way they
(10:18):
can do the preparing for the future thing newsoam has
the you know, the experience and everything else. It is
also the case that you've had two female nominees for
the Democrats who have both lost back to back, not
back to back, but have both lost in succession, so
you know Hillary and then Kamala, So they would have
(10:39):
a guy at the top of the Democrat ticket. In
that case, you'd have some diversity with AOC at the
bottom of gender and she is a Latina, So that
would make Democrats happy, and it would make the left
feel like they would have a powerful voice inside the administration.
I just think that we already know that's where it's
got to go. It's going to be at the top
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of the ticket, AOC at the bottom of the ticket.
I think this is I don't want to say it's preordained.
A lot of things can happen between now and then,
and I understand that Mom Donnie's probably going to become
who has a lot of similarities to AOC ideologically and
everything else. He's probably going to become the mayor of
New York City, but it's gonna take him a while
to make New York worse. It's gonna take a little
(11:22):
bit of time, and he's a going to be someone
that they will just say, well, that's New York. And
I don't think that he's going to drag down, for example, AOC,
certainly at a Democrat primary. So this is where I
see it going. As you're wondering how the Democrat Party
is going to shake out, I think eventually it will
just it will be clear that they need an established,
(11:43):
an older establishment figure, not as old as Biden, because
we all know how that ended up. But you're gonna
have Gavin Newsom, and then you will have to make
things more interesting. You will have AOC at the bottom
of the ticket. I think that is where is all going.
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else to discuss here for a moment. Where does Kamala
factor into all of this? Kamala has a book outs,
(13:55):
and I believe our esteemed friend and co host, mister
Clay Travis plans on attending one of the book tour
stops with a right producer rally, a future is female
t shirt on and perhaps a man bun. I think
if he's going man bun, he should also have to
(14:15):
dye a patch of his hair purple, because I don't
want him to be you know, I don't want him
to be made. I don't want his cover to be blown.
I think he goes purple patch, maybe just the not
the top nine, if you will. From the man bun
can be purple, and that way he'll really fit in.
He needs glasses though, with big thick rims, you need
(14:35):
big thick rim glasses. So he is considering going. I
think he is going to go. And I guess I
have to now get Kamala's book. One hundred and seven days.
That's how long it will feel like I am reading
this book. I am sure about Kamala's ill fated run
(14:56):
for the presidency. But one thing that I have found
interesting in all of this is she starting to try
to settle some scores here and there. There's a little
bit of that going on. And she straight up said, look,
I didn't pick Pete Butter Judge because the whole gay
thing and that was going to be a problem. I
(15:18):
didn't say it like that, but I mean she's saying that.
That's why she was concerned that Pete Butter Judge would
be an issue, because he's a member of the LGBTQIA
plus community, and Pete Bouta Judge has responded to her
on this play nineteen. I was surprised when I read that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I just believe in giving Americans more credit than that.
You know, my experience in politics has been that the
way that you earn trust with voters is based mostly
on what they think you're going to do for their lives,
not on categories. And I wouldn't have run for president
if I didn't believe that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Kamala Harris said her first choice was Pete Buddha Judge,
but she wasn't willing to do it, so she went
with Adam Wall, I mean Tim Wall, sorry, Tim Walls. Instead,
Pete Buddha Judge was her first choice. Now we said
(16:19):
this along, you will remember if she was going to
try to win, the move was Joshapiro in Pennsylvania. Now
I understand the Michigan issue with that, which is he
got a lot of Muslims that don't want to vote
for the Jewish guy, Joshapiro. That's just the truth. This
is what all the data shows, and Democrats realize they've
got this coalition of people who are in many ways
(16:44):
just kind of united by well socialism, antipathy toward traditional
America and Americana. But there's also a lot of group
rivalries and problems because of the identity politics coalition that
they've cobbled together. Part of that is they got a
lot of Muslim immigrants to America who don't like Jews
(17:05):
and don't like gays and won't vote for them. That's
the truth. That's why she has to make these That's
why she didn't go Joshuapiro and why she didn't go
with a Buddha Judge. Although it's beyond just the Muslim
voters of Dearborn that the Buddha Judge is an issue
for as we know the problem that the Democrat Party
has with that. And this is where I do it
(17:28):
would be good to have Clay here because the way
he says it, you know, I put it delicately. Sometimes
he puts it a little less delicately. But let's just
say that Pete Buddha Judge has weakness with male African
American voters in the Democrat Party's that's putting it mildly.
(17:48):
But yeah, Kamala, you're seeing the calculations that she made.
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going to really be a surprise, i think, to anyone,
but it just goes to thepravity and clear just evil
of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin here that he They
(19:17):
now have been looking into his online activities and his
online profile, so the kind of things that he would do,
sites he would go to. All of this part of
it is to tract communications, which the FBI must do
because there is still the possibility of co conspirators or
those who may have aided and embedded the assassination of
(19:40):
our dearly departed friend Charlie Kirk. But what they found
is really disgusting stuff, and again not a surprise given
what we already knew about this person. There's something, there's
a very basic part of your humanity and a very
(20:06):
clear part of your soul that you would have to
have shut out and smothered to be able to put
the sights of a rifle on someone having a peaceful
exchange of ideas on a college campus, completely defenseless. I
(20:29):
might add, you know, this isn't someone who said, you know,
I'll meet you at high noon and we'll see may
the best man win. This is the cowardly shot of
an assassin, a sniper against an unarmed and defenseless person
and a father, a husband, And the fact of I
(20:50):
still the part of this that is just I'm haunted
by it. To know, many of you are the visual
the videos of what happened to Charlie, which I do
not ever want to see again. But at the time
we were all watching it, we all saw and that
just the thought of his children and his wife, it
hits all of us. And we're obviously never going to
(21:11):
forget Charlie's legacy and all the brilliant and fantastic things
that he did and was doing for this country. We're
also not going to be able to forget the trauma though,
of what happened to him, and we shouldn't forget it.
But it's painful. It's painful, and I would feel that
way if what happened had happened to somebody who was
(21:33):
a staunch you know, if it was the same set
of circumstances to a staunch Democrat who was part of
a major movement. You know, if they had done this
to some big name democrat, I would be horrified by
this and horrified by what it has done to that
person's family and so forth. You know that we all
know that. And so when you look at what kind
(21:56):
of a person could do that this Tyler Robinson, it's
the kind of person who, according to the New York
Post here, played furry porn video games. Now, I will
tell you I am reasonably informed of things in this world,
(22:18):
because for my job, I have to just know about
as much as I possibly can. I had never until
reading this article heard of a furry porn video game.
But if you just go through the words in your head,
you will understand more or less what we're talking about here.
(22:39):
And this guy was going into the hardcore and deep, dark,
scary corners of the twisted sexual Internet. And this was
part of his radicalization process. This is part of what
led this man. Like I said, you have to have
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darkened your soul, you have to have suppressed that basic
part of your humanity to have done what this person did.
There's something satanic that is central to this act. You
must have whether you you know, whether he believes in
Satan or not, there must have been you know, whether
(23:23):
it was like a Satanist or not. There must have
been a devil at the center of this process, because
otherwise you couldn't do it. And I think that there's
a broader problem here, and it is this. The movement,
this trans and all the letters and everything else is
(23:48):
creating more and more space for really bizarre and depraved
sexual stuff online. It does get talked about, certainly by
the media that supports this stuff in general, but it's
real and it's there, and you know the number of people,
(24:11):
for example, who are being pushed down this path with
there's this this Scott Atlas, you know, who's a well
known doctor and you know an MD and was involved
with speaking out against COVID. Used to have him on
my show during that period and he's now you know,
it's serving in the it served in the Trump administration. Uh,
he wrote an op ed. I was just reading it.
(24:32):
It's looking at the prevalence of people who are or
who are Q or questioning or intersects as a function
of gen Z, which again this is the alleged Charlie
Kirk assassin, the assassin. He's a gen Z person by age.
(24:54):
And the increase is in the thousands of percentile points,
you know, thousands of percentage points. So it's ten fifteen
times or more increase in people who are identifying this way.
And that is here you go. This is from the
(25:15):
Scott Atlas piece. Gen Z's psychological frailty sets the stage
for unique vulnerability to social contagion suggested by the explosion
of gender confusion. Transgender identification among young adults surge from
zero point five nine percent in twenty fourteen to three
(25:39):
point zero eight percent in twenty twenty three, a four
hundred and twenty two percent increase, with non binary identities
up one thousand, two hundred and sixty percent and transgender
men quadrupling three hundred and nine percent, driven by social media,
echo chamber and peer pressure gallups. Twenty twenty five poll
(26:04):
shows LGBTQ plus identification at nine point three percent overall,
nearly triple three point five percent in twenty twelve, doubling
in five years, with over twenty three percent of Gen
Z identifying as such. A twenty twenty five poll from
the Williams Institute estimates over seven hundred and twenty four
(26:27):
thousand transgender youth in America. This confusion pushes use toward youth,
toward drastic measures like mutilative surgeries, and fuels mental health crises.
This also notes, by the way that only thirteen percent
of d transitioners will receive any support at all from
LGBT organizations. So they'll all help you trans quote transition,
(26:50):
but if you want to detransition. You're on your own?
Why is that? Why should there be such an agenda.
Isn't it about helping people, helping people in crisis? Not
a lot of d transit something you don't even hear
about very much, do you? Why do I bring these
things all? Why am I talking about this? And the
talking about the assassin because he's gen Z and he
(27:10):
was in love with a transferry. This is this is
deeply psychologically and emotionally destabilizing stuff. This is sicko, weirdo stuff. Okay,
you know what, I know it. We all know it.
Something very wrong here. And he doesn't come from a
(27:31):
background at all that would you know, be indicative of
this kind of a trend. It's one thing when you
see and I get start to name them, but all
these celebrities, all these I love. By the way, Hollywood
people finally realize Hollywood is gross. It has so much
less cultural power and impact that it used to know.
(27:51):
I mean, if you look up to celebrities now, like
Hollywood actors, you really, you know, you really don't know
anything about anything, right, I mean, you want to enjoy
a movie once in a while with some of these,
you know, schmo's that's fine, but you know, we don't
look off to them. We'll go that actor he said
this or she said that. But it's one thing when
one of these actors says, oh, I have like a
trans kid, I got a non binary kid, I got
(28:14):
a you know, I got I got a kid who's trans,
non binary, furry and questioning, you go, okay, that's the
that's the parents projecting their psychoses and neuroses onto their kids.
Like it's very obvious, right, It's no surprise that the
left wing radicals have these kids who can't just grow
up and like the boys play with trucks and then
(28:36):
go through puberty and find girls. All of a sudden,
they go through puberty and they think girls are pretty,
and then they want to be around girls, you know,
in their teenage years more and or you know, at
some point of their teenage years, and then they want
to get married and have babies. That can't be that.
There has to be some other thing that they are
pushed towards. In the case of the Charlie kirkis Assen,
though it was online and it was the institutions like
(29:01):
maybe his I don't know what his high school was
but in this case, I think, primarily online, this ideological
ecosystem and echo chamber that is constantly reinforcing, pushing this
stuff and reinforcing this stuff. And I told you I
saw this with gihannis radicalization. There were people who.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Would become willing to murder innocence, including women and children,
in the name of jihad, mostly based on watching YouTube videos.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This is real, This can happen. This kind of brainwashing
in this case, really a form of self brainwashing is possible.
It does happen, and it happened with this shooter. But
in this case it's this depraved gender transgender identity stuff
(29:57):
all mixed into this which can completely unmore anybody. But
you know, a young man, I mean, can you imagine,
you know, maybe all these messages this guy is watching.
I'm trying to remember even what you call this. It's
like transfurry porn video games in his spare time. This
(30:20):
guy's a sick, weirdo. And even apart from what we
know about the violence, and and you know, the the
murder of Charlie Kirk, which of course is the worst
thing of all, but this guy's got problems. And yet
the Left is always telling you that they want to
they want to make more space for this stuff. You
gotta be more tolerant of this stuff. This is this
(30:42):
is just the way people are. Well, you know, maybe
it shouldn't be the way people are. Maybe you should
be able to say, you know, if you're if you
find yourself as a gen Z person not knowing whether
you are attracted to men or women, or whether you're
a man or a woman, and whether you should watch
you know, furry porn online or you're watching for report online. Rather,
(31:03):
you need help. This should not be encouraged. This should
not be called part of a civil rights crusade. There's
something very sick and evil and twisted that is going
on here, and they are going after our youth with
this people eighteen to twenty five. We see the numbers,
(31:26):
we see the reality, and they're they're radicalized into this.
You know, we don't have good terminology really yet for
what to call this. I mean leftism, sure, you know,
gender identity stuff, trans cult there's all these different things.
But something has happened here because you can't tell me
that some guy who grows up with in an otherwise
(31:48):
normal and stable family in you know, I think Utah
with a dad in law enforcement. This guy ends up
by the time he's college age, watching transfer cartoon porn
or whatever and is in love with a transferrey himself.
And you can't tell me that there's not something really
(32:08):
wrong with the influences that he is subjected to online
and buy this digital culture. And we have to figure
out ways to counteract this, to fight against this, to
shut this stuff down, to push this stuff, you know,
(32:28):
out of as far out of the mainstream, certainly as possible,
because the left is always trying to mainstream this stuff.
The left always gets angry. We say, you know, I
don't think we should have kids able to access hardcore
pornography online. So let's put some things in place, and oh,
you know who has problems with it? The left always, oh,
you know what I mean? Free speech? No, I don't think.
(32:49):
I don't think a third grader being able to find,
you know, easily some of that without age verification stuff,
find some of the stuff that we all know it's
freely online. It's not a free speech issue, okay. And
this is a demonic argument to make that they make
if remember that I'll take your calls here in a
second on this one, I'm sure a lot of you
(33:09):
want to weigh in. Look, we'll see some fireworks on
Capitol Hill in the weeks ahead, because, oh my gosh,
is there going to be a shutdown. Look, the government
still got a lot of dysfunction and a huge amount
of debt. Trump's fixing it as fast as he can,
but he can't fix all thirty seven trillion. And so
there's going to be inflation, and there's going to be instability,
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ninety eight, ninety eight ninety eight. Today, Christy in Utah, Christy,
(34:25):
you live a few minutes away from uvu in an Aorum.
Tell us what's going on?
Speaker 6 (34:30):
I do so. First of all, I am super unique
to you. I am a single, educated, conservative religious hr professional?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Wow? Hi. I was like, no, you sound like everyone
in our audience, and then it was oh, hr professional, okay, nice.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Well hopefully professionals.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, good Joe. We did. By the way, I want
to be very clear about something. We need our people
like good sane people in all the professions so that
none of the p Russians are dominated by communist maniacs anymore. Because,
as you know, if you wanted to keep out people
for whatever reason, there's so many ways you could play
that game anyway. But I'm glad you're doing that. What
(35:11):
else did you want to talk about?
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Also? Is there any way that you can add hot
chocolate to your Crockett Coffee for those of us who
don't drink coffee, is there?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You know what, I will one hundred percent. I'll bring
that up to our chief of ops, my brother Mason,
and uh and yeah, I think we actually probably can
do that. I would love to do that. I'm I
love hot chocolate, so I'm into it. I will pass
that along.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And I have a doodle dog, so I follow along
your ginger stories. They're my favorite. So I live in Utah.
I actually went to YU which is ten minutes down
the road, and I was going to be the next
caller last week, right before you guys found out decide
how an opinion on whatever the topic was. But uvu
(35:56):
is I might start crying. Is like ten minutes for me.
And they're holding a vigil today at four o'clock. I
know people who were there. I know people who saw it.
I know people who teach there. I drive by there
regularly to go to Trader Joe's and my parents was
ten minutes away from Washington County. And I can tell
(36:17):
you that it's rock this community, like it's it's been
very emotional, like nothing ever happens here.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I can I can imagine it has been really traumatic,
but our thoughts and prayers are with you, and thank
you for calling in. From Orum and team, we'll be
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