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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number two Friday edition, Clay and Buck.
I am down on the north side of Florida on
the beautiful Panhandle. Buck is down on the south side
of Florida in Miami. We are covering both sides of
the state and all sides of the country as we
take you into the weekend. And I want to play
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a cut for you to kind of put a bow
on the discussion that we had surrounding the John Bolton
eighteen felony counts that he has been charged with. Even
on MSNBC when the indictment came out and they reviewed
the charges against him, they said, uh oh, this is
not very good for John Bolton. Here is MSNBC's guest
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cut thirty three. Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It doesn't look good for him. There's no way to
slice it. The details of this indictment do not look good.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay, that's former White House Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Matthews.
And so if CNN and MSNBC are actually saying, uh oh,
that is a huge mess, it probably is a huge
mess for John Bolton. And we've talked about that a lot.
In an hour one would encourage you go download the podcast.
You can dive in and keep up with us, even
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or just turning us on wherever you may be across
the country. A whole first hour much of the discussion
about John Bolton. Now, there were two different debates last night.
For those of you who have been following this closely,
this is an off year and there are not a
ton of races going on. But the New Jersey governor's race,
the Virginia governor's race, and now the Virginia Attorney General's
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race in conjunction with the New York City mayor's race,
will give you some sense maybe of the political environment
in general. Now, to be fair, Kamala won New Jersey
by five or six points, she won Virginia by five
or six points, and obviously New York City, even though
it moved in Trump's direction, these are all Democrat bases.
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So I'm not sure how much you can tell what
the impact is going to be going forward. Uh So,
all of that in mind, but within the context of
these debates, I just got to be honest, Buck, You're
a lifelong New York City resident who moved to Miami.
What is Curtis Leewa doing Mom Donnie is going to
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win this race as long as he stays in it.
And I get it. If some of you say, well
Andrew Cuomo is no better, I'm gonna vote for Curtis Sliwa,
I get it. But whenever there is an anti Mom
Donnie vote that is being split, it means Mom Donnie
is going to win.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And so I just I don't understand at all what
is going on here, and Mam Donnie just went aggressively
after Andrew Cuomo. Will play a couple of those a
couple of those cuts, But I do want to play
this from Harry Enton, who just lays out the math
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on Mam Donnie is going to win. This is cut
thirty one.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Mamdanni leads by eighteen points.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Right now, look at the largest polling average miss since
nineteen hundred and eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know what it was, It was eleven points.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You don't have going to be a mathematical genius to
know eleven points is less than eighteen points. So if
Andrew Cuomo is going to come back and win, either
something like Curtis Leewa has to drop out of the race,
or you need a polling miss that is nearly twice
as large as the largest.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Miss on record.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So you're gonna probably need something historically unprecedented for Andrew
Cuomo to win this race if the polling average holds.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Through election day.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, Buck, what am I missing here?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I have previously said, and I'm sorry to the wor listeners.
I'm sorry to all of you in New York City.
I have previously said, I actually think Mam Donnie Win,
a Mam Donnie Win is beneficial to the nation because
it forces a far left wing Shaking his head, he's
already getting roufful look on his face.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Hey, I thought we're all I thought all we conservatives
were on this lifeboat together. And Clay is taking New
York and the christ State area conservatives and he's saying,
just like, just like Jack, there was no room for
him on the door with Rose. He's letting New Yorkers
just slide into the icy depths after the Titanic has
gone down. And I'm not okay with that. I would
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I'm rolling my lifeboat over to you New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I want you to be okay, water's cold, there's no
room for the rest of us. Sometimes you just got
to toss New York City in. Let it, much like
Buck Island, as another island, go underneath the waves of
left wing insanity. Uh, and let the rest of us
live to see a happier day. So I actually don't
know that this is a bad result for the national
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picture as it pertains to the House of Representatives, as
it pertains to all of the Senate races, governor's races
in the midterms coming up in twenty twenty six. But
but there is no other result here for New Yorkers. Mom,
Donnie is gonna win as long as Curtis Sleewas stays
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in the race. Buck, You're a lifelong New York City
guy until a couple of years ago. What's going on here?
What is the calculus other than I want the attention
and I want the the Uh. I think it's just
attention because you're not gonna win for Curtis Sleewa, who
I like. We've had him on the show a bunch.
I just don't understand what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Look, uh, I you know, I appreciate where Curtis is
coming from.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Is I don't know him.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know him, but we've got him on the
show before and I like him.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I mean, he's yeah, and would he be would he
be a great mayor? Yeah, sure he would. Really, he'd
be so much better. But we got to look at
the political reality as it is here. And you said,
I'm a I'm a former New Yorker, which the the
Gertrude Stein thing. America is my country, but Paris is
my hometown. It feels like Florida is my state, but
New York City is my hometown. You know that's I
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feel like a Floridian at the state level. But I
still have much more of a connection to New York
City than I do to Miami specifically. That may change
in time, But so maybe I'm a New Yorker in
exile in some way. I think a lot of people
down here are actually.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Clay.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
I think what you need to do is have Cuomo
offer I was gonna say, Mom, Donnie, that's not good.
Gonna have Cuomo offer Sliwa, maybe a deputy mayor role
with the portfolio of public safety, which would also go
toward the fact that Cuomo is the jail break. I mean,
the problem here is Cuomo is awful too. I'm actually
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not getting the.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Fact that he's considered in any way to be the savior.
Is how bad of a position that New York City
has put itself in. I am not that convinced that
Cuomo would be a lot better than mom.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Do Do I think he'd be better than Mam Donnie? Yeah,
I'm not convinced he'd be a lot better than Mam Donnie.
So that's why it's very hard for me to even
I think the mentality is, oh my gosh, I'm not
gonna do what the Left does with like a Hitler thing.
But like, oh, that Hitler guy's awful. Thank God we've
got Stalin on our side, you know, like there's a
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little bit of that going on here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Stalin was really bad too.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Uh So I think that Cuomo is Stalin in this analogy,
and I think that it's very hard for Sliwa to
see this as anything other than maybe a miracle happens.
But I can't let this be left to Cuomo either.
But if you if you want it to not be Mamdanni,
he's got to get some deal going and he's got
to drop out. And why he won't drop out, I
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don't know. He's not going to be mayor unless a
meteor hits the world and something completely unforeseeable happens.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Now, let me give you a positive side of this,
because mam Donnie's gonna win. I want all of you
to be prepared for this. What are the guys we
had call in who was all angry at me for
telling you this. This is not the polls trying to
tell you a story. This is Mamdanni is gonna win
because the mam Donni opposition is going to be split
between Sliwa and Cuomo. Could be beneficial. Let me give
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you a positive New York angle. Could be beneficial for
Elised Stephonic, who is running to try to beat Kathy
Hokel in twenty twenty six. In fact, this is what
Elist Stephonic just put out. The New York Times was
upset that Elis Stephonics said that that Mamdanni is a Jihattist.
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They said that this is islamophobic of Elis Stephonic. And
this is her response, which I like. I called Zorron
Mamdani a jihadis because he is Mamdanni is a raging
anti Semite. Mam Donnie is the definition of a jihadist
as he supports hamas terrorist, which he did as recently
as yesterday when he refused to call for Hamas terris
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to put down their arms, the same Hamas terrorist group
that slaughtered civilian including New Yorkers, on October seven, twenty
twenty three. He is Kathy Hokeels endorsed jiehattist communist who
she is empowered to destroy New York City. It's why
the New York State Democratic Party chair refuses to support him.
It's why multiple Democrat members of Congress refuse to support him.
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It's why Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries have still not
endorsed him because Zron is a jahadist who will destroy
New York. Thank you, now, that's a pretty good response
from Elis Stefani. I think that not only could it
benefit her in the governor's race if Mamdannie is in. Certainly,
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I think it's massively beneficial. To her point, There's a
reason Akiem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, who are also New
York City guys, have not come on board with Mamdannie.
So I am circling back to I'm gonna look at
this as a positive as a glass half full situation. Yes,
New York is gonna drown, but the rest of us
are going to be in much better position. So kiss
(10:01):
to New Yorkers, and uh, I'm just gonna continue to
float away on my life vest while you guys go
under the water in the icy waters. I just think
I think there's room. I think there's room for Jack
on that door. And Rose needs to just, you know,
suck it in a little bit here and make some space.
So New York, I'm not I'm not letting you just
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go down into the icy depths of communism without a fight.
All right, mister Nashville over here, a little bit of
a Nashville New York rivalry.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
He has no problem with New York turning into someone
And we're.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Gonna be fine. Tennessee's fine, Florida is fine where I
am right now. New York, I'm gonna be up there
with you on Monday. But yeah, you're kind of screwed.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I think it's it's all gonna be okay. But maybe
this is finally.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
The uh, the sanity that needs to happen, unfortunately through
a degree of pain, that will allow at least to
Phonic to be not just competitive, but maybe win against
Kathy Hochel. That's a positive. I do think.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I think someone like Hochel Well, the thing that she
would have relied on in previous elections to stay in
office would have been the abortion issue in New York.
I think that's going to be largely off that it's
not off the table. They're going to try to make
a thing of it, but people don't care that much.
It doesn't move the needle the way that they would
need it to. So I think at least Aphonic will
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be very competitive on the economy and on public safety statewide,
and just also running a saner, better government in New York,
which it could certainly have, as we love, we love
to say New York has fewer people than Florida and
double the budget and worse public services. So someone has
to explain how that's not the clearest indicator imaginable of
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the misappropriation or misallocation.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Of funds that's going on a New York and a
regular basis. Mom, Donnie.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
I also want to note Play said this was cut fourteen.
He apologized to NYPD officers, but I want you to
listen very closely to the way.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That he says it. Play fourteen.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
I apologize for the language that I used, and I
spoke to them about the fact that I want to
work with them to deliver public safety because what we're
seeing in the city right now is we're asking officers
to do nearly everything we can think of.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Police officers that I spoke to, they don't want a
behind closed doors apology.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
They want a broad public apology for the things that
you suggested about them. Will you do that right now?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Absolutely? I'll apologize to police officers right here, because this
is the apology that I've been sharing with many rank
and file officers. And I apologize because of the fact
that I'm looking to work with these officers, and I
know that these officers, these men and women who serve
in the NYPD, they put their lives on the line
every single day.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I apologize for the language I used. I apologize because
the cops are great. He's saying here, But what he's
not doing is apologizing for jumping on the bandwagon of
cops are racist and cause all of the problems in
our cities because of that racism him and therefore we
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need to pull funding from them, which makes everybody less safe,
including and specifically minority residence. Right like, it's it's it's
a hollow apology clays.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It feels like, yeah, apologize. It's almost like when and
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Where I'm going with this one with your wife. I'm
sorry if that upset you. Oh, not good?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Or rather, i'm sorry you took it that way.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No, you know what I mean. Yes, I'm sorry if
you were offended by that like that. It's not really
what they want to hear.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, the tone of your voice, tone of you. It's
not what you said, it's the tone of your voice.
Why are you yelling? I'm not yelling. This is how
I talk every husband out there, slowly nodding.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm having flashbacks right now.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I'm a little traumatized just hearing you say this.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let's play a little bit more of these, mind let
me play this as we go to break, and then
let's talk about this. Because Public Transit producer Ali, I
think some of the other crew rides public transit in
New York and they now are going to try to
make public transit free for everybody. Here's the problem. The
issue is safety and cleanliness. It's not cost cut and
(14:23):
making it free for everybody, to me, is not going
to make safety better and it's not going to make
the cleanliness of the experience better. Cut eleven. Just going
to raise tax rates and everything's going to be free.
This is what he's going to do. It's again New York,
you're going to sink underneath the waters. But the rest
of us we're going to be great. We've got nice
life rafts. Cut eleven.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
The question is how you'll make them free.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
We will fund the revenue that would have otherwise been
brought in from fares, and that's something that we would
do in partnership with Albany and I put forward two proposals.
The first is to raise taxes on the top one
percent of New Yorkers by two percent. That would raise
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would raise five billion.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Though there you go, just gonna tax everybody. It's buses,
But how many people out there think to themselves, Hey,
what busses need? The cost is too high. We just
need to have cheaper bussing. Anybody really think that it's
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Speaker 3 (16:33):
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
We got more on the Mum Donnie, Tommy, Mom Donnie.
Is Trump gonna be able to help send him home
to mommy? Uh by making fun of him?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
We'll see. We've got him saying oh wow, oh mom,
Donnie's throwing some He's getting a little saucy over here.
He says, this has cut twelve and okay, let's just
hear him.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He's going after Cuomo play twelve twelve.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
If we have a health pandemic, then why would New
Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to
their death and nursing homes. That's the kind of experience
that's on offer here today. What I don't have an experience,
I make up for an integrity, And what you don't
have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Woooo.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Now here's the problem. When he lands a good line
against Cuomo, I kind of like it because Cuomo's awful.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Clay, this is the problem. Cuomo is very very bad.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Cuomo is not a good This isn't like the Chicago
mayor's race where you had like a reasonable guy running
against Brandon Johnson.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
They're very awful.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, New Yorkers that put themselves in quite the pickle
here because every option they pick is basically an awful one.
And that's why we have to let you go under
the waters metaphorically speaking, of course, and the rest of
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That's IFCJ dot org. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck
Sexton Show David Rutherford, part of the Clay and Buck
podcast network. We're going to get in to the situation
in Venezuela with him momentarily just updating you on the news.
In the last couple of moments, Zelensky of Ukraine has
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arrived at the White House for a meeting with President
with President Trump, question yelled out, does he believe he
can convince Putin to end the World War in Ukraine?
Trump nods yes, as he is welcoming Zelensky clad in
a black suit for those of you who are staructorially inclined,
(19:33):
not in his green fatigues and T shirt. Just FYI.
So they have begun that meeting. We will see what news,
if any, emerges from that discussion. We bring in now
David Rutherford. Excited to have him as a part of
the Clay and Buck podcast network. He's doing fabulous work.
You should go subscribe to his podcast. Make sure that
you're on top of everything in sort of military and
(19:56):
door kicking, bad ass worldview, and he is with us. Now, okay,
we've seen all of the blown up votes that are
happening off the coast in the Caribbean area, off the
coast of Venezuela. There has been talked Trump has talked
about it. CIA may be covertly attempting to attack the
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regime of Maduro there, the person who stole power according
to most analysis of the election there. What should we
know about Venezuela? Where do you think it's headed? Are
we going to have boots on the ground? Is the
Maduro regime in your mind in danger? David Rutherford, Hey,
thank you.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Guys so much for having me on. That was a
hell of intro. I appreciate that. I believe where what
we need to do is look at the maxuses of
power that are emerging through the Venezuelan developments. Right, You've
got China who's invested over sixty billion dollars into loans, infrastructure,
everything you can think of. You've got coordinated relationships potentially
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with Mexican cartels. Just recently we had a Mexican cartels
issue basically headhunting fees on certain border patrols. And then
I also think you have probably a large portion of
the population after the last election fiasco with Machado, that
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is probably primed and wants to change. So all of
these things converging into I think the posture that we're
representing right now. I mean, what three D fifty two's
We've got ten thousand troops, We've got soft guys. There's
definitely agency folks working down there. So what happens next,
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I think is going to be dependent upon Madurero's actions.
I mean, the funniest thing I saw in the last
few hours was one of their naval ships ran aground
and sunk. So I'm not sure anybody's not good right
So that you know, I think where things are heating
up for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, Venezuela's Maduro regime has just ordered military exercises, by
the way, which I gotta say.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I guess if you are the you're the tinpot dictator
of Venezuela, now rut you gotta make it seem like
you got muscles to flex. But if I were this guy,
if I were Maduro, I might well, I'm sure he
already has stash cash in uh where are the places
people do it, like the Cook Islands or the Channel
Islands or whatever. But if I were him, I would
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have my If I were Maduro, I would have my
go bag ready and an exit plan.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Maybe he could go get an apartment next door to
a sad playing video games over in Russia.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Wait, can I just jump in there?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
When I read that rut all I wanted to know
in that article just ever under Stance, the longtime dictator
of Syria. There was a report that came out that
he's just hanging out in a luxury Moscow apartment playing
video games all day?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Is it call of do?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I want to know what the video game is?
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, Roadbox, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
You know, I think what's interesting is you have people
that capture power in the way they did. And you know,
I don't know if either of you saw the deposition
from the gentleman relative Tina Peters was putting it out
relative to his work at smart Mattic and the specific
development of that operating system to capture the elections thirty
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years ago or whatever it was. And and you know,
I think when you have somebody that drives the country
into the ground, Eventually what happens the people began to
rise up, and we certainly saw that in the last
election and then the crackdown that came over. You know, yes,
this idea of citizen warfare. We saw the what was
(23:52):
a couple of months ago, they were showing some promo
stuff of you know, tractor Bob and you know, the
little lady holding the aka learning how to fight, and
that's absurd. I just don't believe that this country is
willing to endure any more of what's been taking place
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because you know, they're look at their inflation, look at
their production, look at their output. The only thing that
saves them, obviously is illegal drug traffic and probably some
human trafficking as well as uh, you know, probably some
arms traffic, and but it's oil and so, you know,
before putting boots on the ground, I'd love to see
maybe a blockade or something a little bit more, giving
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them time to negotiate or alter or come out with
a position before we start sending, you know, a young
American women into fight in Venezuela.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
We're speaking to David Rutherford, former Navy seal, host of
The David Rutherford Show on the Clay and Buck podcast network,
which you should all be catching up on listening to
this weekend if you if you missed this week's episode
and Rut you mentioned the cartels and how they've put
out bounties on members of US Border Patrol. We've had
multiple strikes now on narco terrorist boats in the Caribbean,
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lethal strikes, right, kinetic strike missile is basically blown up ships,
and we're moving more military assets into the region to
do this. And when Joint Special Operations gets involved here,
when our operators are doing more against these cartels, do
you think the likelihood is they're going to go on
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go to ground and try to ride it out or
are they going to try to escalate the violence in
response to change the political calculation here at home?
Speaker 9 (25:44):
You know, that's the great question, right, Iron Plaid has had.
There's a woman who's a Mexican reporter who's talking about
she's doing on the ground interviews, you know, block out faces,
and they're saying we're just gonna wait it out. But
think about them the magnitude of the impact of shutting
that border down.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
What does it cause?
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Right, It's a lot of people. There's a guy named
Oscar Ramirez that's been reporting that there's a small civil
war amongst the cartels grouping building. So you know, I
think everybody's looking for, you know, how do we recapture
those those revenue streams that we lost from human trafficking
and probably a significant portion of trafficking across the border,
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and so what what do they have to lose other
than you know, going kinetics. So as a result of that, Yeah,
there's a distinct possibility that's this, you know, Jasock. I
don't know about typical soft units, the lower tier three units,
but I definitely think you know, JASO combined with you know,
maybe some of the agency's assets or some of the
you know, counter narco assets within homeland. Yeah, they're they're
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going to be ramping up their their mission profiles for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Where does this go? All right? So we're I know
you're trying to analyze this in general, but what do
you think the true end goal? Marco Rubio is very
very well informed with what's been going on in Venezuela
former senator obviously now a Secretary of State, So I
would imagine that he's driving a large degree of this
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inside of the White House. If the Trump team had
their ability to sort of waive their magic wand what
would they like to see happen in Venezuela. We know
they have unbelievable I think it's Chevron, primarily oil and
gas assets that used to be American owned. There have
been reports that Maduro basically is bending the knee and saying,
(27:37):
whatever you guys need, I'll give back to you in
terms of oil and gas assets. Is it any kind
of negotiation with him or do you think he has
to be gone in order for there to be any
sort of reconciliation between the United States and Venezuela.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Play That is the thousand dollars question right there right
And I think Mark Rubio is a great guy to
be doing this. He's been so integrated into the Central
South American political landscape as or you know, his Cuban
ancestry and just where he positions himself and has been
for years. So I think he's a great guy. I
(28:13):
think they're riding this incredible high of negotiations right now.
Obviously the Ukraine Russia one is the one that escapes them,
but I think there might be a real willingness to,
you know, come in and try and negotiate some type
of deal, uh to to put the fires out, so
to speak, and that would be relative to regaining some
(28:36):
considerable you know, uh leverage on the oil industry because
that's the heartbeat of their whole country. However, you know,
you've got a very staunch influence coming from China again.
You know, I was looking up the numbers just you know,
this morning, and it's pretty staggering what they've been doing.
So if they feel like they their exports can be
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maintain pain through their China relationship or the Bricks relationship
or whatever that might be, I think there, you know,
Maduro might be willing to stave off any of the
economic pressures that he's already been doing so far. But
I just think there's such a momentum. I mean that
that piece deal in Israel, I mean that is more
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significant than anything I think we've seen in a long
long time. And the fact that you know, Machada wanted
to give her Nobel Peace Prize to Trump. You know,
there's this unique relationship that's been formed there. So I
think it's some kind of either deal with with like
you said, with the oil industry or some of those,
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but it's also I would imagine pressure to hold new
elections with some perhaps some un oversight that that would
be something that would be truly a monumental feat for
Rubio in his team of of you know, the newly
found ability to have diplomacy in our state department, which
(30:04):
is a pretty awesome thing to see.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
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Speaker 9 (30:19):
But you saw what happened the last time the Green
Beret guy went down there and tried to do it right.
And you know what was kind of funny, which is
kind of this hidden story a lot of people don't
talk about, is you know they the last administration tried
to pin that on a bunch of Trump loyalists right
FBI investigations. They tried to really connect some true Trump
(30:41):
loyalists people that are involved in the government now to
participating and kind of that you know, random like Kamakazi
We're going to take down. It was almost like a
bush League bay of pigs for Yasco. For the grouping.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
It was like an a these action movie plot, but
it was real.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
It was totally real. And I have a lot of
friends that had to go talk to the Bureau as
a result of that. And so I don't know. I mean,
I I I think the population is ripe for some influence,
but I don't, I don't know. Man, it seemed like
the military really coalesced around him to go after you know,
(31:24):
the opposition or whatever you want to call it, after
those elections, you know, and we saw Brazil was able
to do that. You know, a lot of these other
kind of socialist countries were able to do that. And
so what I think it is is how are they
so confident that they can, you know, repress those uprisings?
And I think it's about a money issue. So where
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is Venezuela getting the money to pay for their soldiers
at scale in support of knocking down these these you know,
organic uprisings, internal and organic with quotations obviously.
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So thank you for joining us here and we'll hang
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Speaker 3 (34:49):
What's going on? Sean?
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Any guys, how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call. Hey,
I've been immersed in the Venezuelan culture here for over
twenty years, and I can tell you that Maduro is
only a small part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
You're still there, Yeah, yeah, everyone's listening.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Go ahead, okay, okay, yeah, it's it's not only Maduro.
It's also a guy by the name of diast out
of Caveo, who's the big narco king there. He's kind
of a lieutenant to Maduro. So if you take on Madua,
you have to kill theist out of Caveo. It's just
he's a narco as bad as they come. The other
thing is they you were talking about, and I believe
(35:30):
the same blood as Rutherford, so I kind of know
a little here about decades prior to him. But the
money of that Maduro is still us in gold. It's
transported to Britain. This is a well known fact. It's
been transported to Spain, but it's also been in the
hands of hugushapas his daughter who lives in New York City.
So you know, he's as long as he's been in office.
(35:56):
So if you take care of him, you gotta take
care of this out to veil in all his soldiers
as well.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
And I'm sure alrighty Ruby, all, thanks, thanks, thanks, thank you, Sean.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
But yep, we hear you, We hear you on that.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Look, Clay, it's really is the Trump administration going to
go full clear in present danger on the Maduro regime
and the narco terrorists.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
They're in, You know, they're.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
In, and it could get interesting, and we're already blowing
up boats, which they didn't even do in clear in
present danger.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And this all ties into a large extent not only
on the drug front, but on the price of oil
and gas. Has anybody noticed that the price of oil
and gas continues to plummet and that it is cheapest
that it has been since twenty twenty one when we
were coming out of COVID and people were not traveling
very much. Uh, that's a big win that doesn't get
(36:46):
very much discussion. We'll talk about that and more. Final
Hour of the week next