June 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the political upheaval surrounding New York City's mayoral race, highlighting the rise of Democratic Socialist candidate Zohran Mamdani. Clay and Buck analyze the implications of Mamdani's nomination, emphasizing how his progressive platform—backed by figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders—signals a broader shift within the Democratic Party. They explore the national ramifications of this political momentum, warning that what happens in New York could soon influence Democrat-led cities across the country. The hosts critique Mamdani's proposals, including an 800% increase in funding for hate crime prevention and his assertion that the criminal justice system is inherently racist. They argue these initiatives are more about left-wing indoctrination than effective governance. The conversation also touches on Mamdani's savvy use of social media and his appeal to younger voters, many of whom are financially supported by their parents and drawn to socialism despite benefiting from capitalism. Eric Adams, the current mayor, is portrayed as a potential moderate counterweight, possibly running as an independent. The show discusses the strategic challenges Adams faces, especially if former Governor Andrew Cuomo enters the race, potentially splitting the anti-Mamdani vote. The hosts also examine the fractured state of the Democratic Party, debating whether it can still suppress far-left candidates or if it will continue to “double down on crazy.” President Donald Trump is referenced as a stabilizing force, particularly in contrast to the chaos the hosts associate with progressive policies. They highlight the effectiveness of Trump-era immigration enforcement, with praise for figures like Tom Homan and Stephen Miller, and criticize sanctuary city policies that undermine federal law enforcement. The hour concludes with a broader cultural critique, linking the rise of socialism to generational entitlement and a rejection of meritocracy. The hosts argue that capitalism’s success has ironically enabled the luxury of anti-capitalist sentiment, particularly among younger, affluent urban voters.
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Danny Mania sweeping the Democrats all across this land of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And uh, we all know from yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That this guy Zoran Mamadani is the Democrat nominee for
the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now that's not a done deal. There are some long
bomb in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hopes that maybe Eric Adams could pull this off, or
maybe there's some Cuomo deal, although I think Cuomo now
is just considered a loser.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right the comeback, Clay.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
The comeback has not worked out the way that Cuomo
wanted these the spaghetti and to meet balls was not
as good.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
As he was hoping for.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's because it was a total whiff by me, Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I mean, I really thought that they had rolled out
the red carpet for him. I thought he was going
to win the mayoral race and would then use it
as the jumping off point to be a candidate in
twenty twenty eight. Instead, I think his political career is over.
I think I think he gave up the political ghosts,
so to speak, in that loss and the way that
he lost.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So now here here's again, I have to I bring
this to your attention because so go with New York City,
So go with a lot of other Democrat cities. I
think this is going to be viewed. So if you
live in Texas and you're like, well, that's New York's problem. Yeah,
But you know you live in a city like Houston
or Dallas, which is Democrat majority, unfortunately, this might affect
(02:08):
you. You know, obviously, if you live in California, you're in
a Democrat enclave state wide. You know, there's a lot
of stuff, a lot of stuff that that will filter
out from this, And I think it's an interesting test
case because you already have national level them. You had
Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, I don't even know he was
on Twitter. He was like, hey, here, you're a socialist.
(02:29):
You love those pretty ladies. I lock pretty ladies too.
We should talk, you know. Bill Clinton all of a
sudden giving his congratulations Komaney himself just kidding. Komane didn't
congratulate him, but it would have been funny if he had.
Komaanie did say that they've won the war, though, that
is I do have that one here.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
We'll get to that later.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Bill Clinton, congratulations to Zoron on your victory, wishing you success.
Well yeah, yeah, nothing really interesting there. But Bill Clinton
weighed in AOC and Bernie. There's really there's really a
decision that's being made with AOC within the Democrat Party.
There's the AOC Bernie pathway, and then there's the you know,
(03:10):
somebody who's the Democrat in charge of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What's that guy I'm forgetting blanket.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know, there's like the Basheer or the governor of
Maryland or the you know, there's that like I'm a Democrat,
but I'm not like one of those crazy Democrats. They'll
do whatever Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi tell them, but
they pretend not to be right. Right now, you've just
had a big win go up on the board for
the crazy AOC wing of the Democrat Party, and I
(03:36):
understand you might say, Buck, they'll never be able to
win a national election.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Kamala lost by in the electoral college, which is what matters.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
A couple of hundred thousand votes really, right, meaning I
understand she lost by a lot more she lost the
popular vote. I'm not taking away from Trump's enormous victory.
It was fantastic. But if you were able to shift
a couple hundred thousand votes in half a dozen states,
really less than half the states, Kamala Harris would have
been president.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So don't let's not.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Get complacent about the fact that the worst presidential candidate
in my lifetime is somebody who wasn't that far.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It was not like a you know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Mondale, absolute thrashing. Okay, this was something that was closer
than it should have been. Now let's just just because
of why I don't want you to think, oh, this
is just New York City's problem. This is that's like
saying Soros prosecutors were New York's problem. Oh wait, hold
on a second. They were in every major city in
the country for a while. There were Soros prosecutors in
(04:37):
Saint Louis, and in and in Philly and in la
and let you know, you get it on the list
right Chicago. Soros money all over the country. So you
have to watch these trends. Clay, let's get into some
of the crazy stuff here. Socialist democrat Zoran Mamdani. Something
that he says he wants to do. This is cut nine.
(04:57):
This guy says he wants to a eight hundred percent
increase hate crime prevention.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Play this.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know that Jewish New Yorkers, like Jewish Americans, are
fearful in this moment of antisemitism. And ultimately it's through
the conversations I've had with Jewish New Yorkers that I
have developed a proposal for the Department of Community Safety
that would include an eight hundred percent increase in funding
for hate crime prevention programs. Because ultimately, we cannot simply
(05:27):
say that antisemitism has no home in this city or
no place in this country. We have to do more
than talk about it. We have to tackle it, and
that's what we will do. Through this funding and through
this commitment, we will root out bigotry across the five boroughs.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let me just throw this out there, Clay.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
This is going to absolutely not work at all to
stop any bigotry, but it will be a way to
fund left wing and doctrination programs in community centers, schools
and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, and look, I think what you're saying is so
important because a lot of people think, oh, y York City,
that doesn't really impact my life in a substantial way.
I think who with the mayor of New York City
is impacts all of our lives, even if you live
in the smallest town in Alabama or the most remote
(06:14):
part of Utah. The decisions made in New York City,
given its primacy as the financial capital of the world,
have a major residence, and the idea that New York
City is going to potentially elect a guy like mom
Donnie should be a clarion call for sanity to ring forth.
(06:36):
And I think maybe some of these parents that are
subsidizing all their kids to live in New York City.
Producer Ali made a good point yesterday, But I do
think it's true that a lot of mom Donnie's voters
are young under thirties who otherwise wouldn't be living in
New York City but for the fact that their parents
are helping to pay their rent, and they have decided
(06:59):
they like social the parents like capitalism because that's how
they can afford to take care of their kids. But
I do think that there's a generational divide here, and
I think as you break all of this down, unfortunately, look,
I don't know that the Democrat Party, this is a
(07:19):
good question for you, buck is still in a powerful
enough position that they would be able to knock out
a Bernie Sanders candidacy. Now that they would be able
to knock out an AOC candidacy. Now, I think the
party is so fractured and so broken. And you might say, Okay,
well that's good. The problem is they could win. I
(07:41):
don't think it's a crazy idea that Bernie Sanders could
if he weren't eighty three or eighty four or whatever
the heck he is, that he could catch fire, someone
like him could catch fire and end up as the president.
I don't think it's a crazy, ridiculous idea.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm gonna tell you something I watched a lot of
these mom Donnie videos, and the guy is the guy
is very slick, He understands social media. He comes across
as just objectively. He comes across as affable and pretty
humble and a guy who.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Just wants to talk to people.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He did this whole video it's now gone pretty viral
play where he goes around talking to like, you know,
if people call him like halal carts, like the meat,
meat and rice carts that are in New York City,
asking them like why is it so expensive? Like why
is it ten or twelve dollars now for this wouldn't
couldn't be less? And he has these guys he goes
right in and they're saying, Oh, it's because of city permitting.
(08:44):
The city permitting process is corrupt and takes too long
and it's too expensive. And he goes, oh, we're going
to fix that. You know, say what you will about
the fact that he was, you know, freezing. There's a
whole bill Ackman has a whole takedown to this guy.
Freezing rent prices is just going to make the house
shortage worse worse because it means that you know, there
are expenses that are already baked in and people have
(09:05):
to build more, and they don't want to build more
if they can't actually charge the market rate anyway. So
here he's an economic illiterate, but he understands Mom, Donnie,
understands story, and he understands social media and how to
connect with an audience. I you know, don't don't sleep
on this guy.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You know, we have this thing, you know, and I
know we've done this with AOC two. Oh you know, Jess,
but this guy doesn't strike me as dumb. Wrong, yes, dumb. No,
he doesn't strike me as dumb and you know, horrible ideas, certainly,
But this is the other you know, the option that
Democrats have is not is to say we're not going
(09:44):
to go towards the center and try to reform our crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We're gonna double down on crazy. We're just gonna package
it better. Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think AOC sees this and says, I'm running for
president now in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Absolutely, I've said that's all along. You asked me right
after this election, who's going to be the leader Democrat
Party as well? I said AOC at one point. And
then I've also mentioned Wes Moore, the governor of Maryland,
but those are the pathways. There's the AOC hard left
socialists just say the stuff that you want to say
as and then there's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The oh, I'm not like them, I'm more normal, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You get the AOC policies. But you get somebody who
pretends to be something else during the election cycle. That's
the lecture approach.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The Democrat Party has the ability to slap down someone
like Bernie Sanders if he were running today, which if
I'm looking at AOC, I'm saying, mom Donnie just ran through.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
What did Mom Donnie do?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
He's pretty good on social media, you may think, and
I certainly think that AOC is economically illiterate and a moron.
There's a huge audience for what she puts out on
social media, and she's skilled at that. Now I don't
I hope that her overall policies are so crazy and
(10:58):
she would do such a poor job even of those
policies that she would not be capable of winning an election.
But I think you're starting to see that the Democrat
Party had two pathways. They could wake up and be
somewhat more sane, or at least pretend to be more sane,
and take the more moderate path as they move towards
(11:18):
twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight, or they could
double triple and quadruple down on crazy. And it seems
to me that the early returns, based on what we
saw in New York City, are that they're going to
double triple, quadruple down on crazy. And you know, now
we're in a situation where Eric Adams is the savior
(11:38):
of New York City, and that's only if they can
get Cuomo to officially drop out, if they can find
a way to kind of corral this strange coalition that
potentially he would be able to bring to bear, and
that would require black voters interestingly deciding that they had
to show up in a monster number for Eric Adams
(12:02):
in order to offset a lot of these young white
voters that have fallen in love with socialism.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So you've got Mamdanie talking about the eight hundred percent
increase in the anti bigotry forces, not police, like, I
don't know what they're going to be bigotry prevention programs. Also,
as we know in New York talking about if you're
talking about anti Semitic or anti Asian bigotry, Yeah, probably
(12:29):
not gonna if you're a leftist, you're not going to
like the demographics that are disproportionately targeting those groups. This
is just a matter of fact, a matter of numbers
and data. But put that aside for a moment. Here
is really at the heart of it. Mamdani saying that
our criminal justices and this is cut eight, is just
straight up racist.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
The alternatives are things that we must look to immediately,
both with regards to you neighborhood groups who do anti
violence work and are shown to be more effective than
the police, but also asking you know, if we have
an understanding that our criminal justice system is racist, which
is quite a general understanding now it seems to be
(13:09):
shared by many, many people, then how can we simultaneously
be investing in it as the way we both judge
and determine the futures of so many people in our state.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Now that was twenty twenty, granted, but the criminal justice
system in this country is actually not racist.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It is not racist.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I know that this is something democrats love to say,
but the laws are the laws, and we.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Have talked about this before, and to me, the way
that this gets destroyed is if you just push back
anybody who says this just nod and say super sexist too.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Why are men charged with the crime?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Men do?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Really unfair those murdered laws. Men do all the murders.
This is my favorite argument, Claiy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We've been making it here for a long time because
they don't know what to say, because they have to admit, Yeah,
men commit more murders. We just threw sorry, guys, we're
the ones who kill people. Does that mean we change
the murder laws? Does that mean that murder laws are sexist?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It does not. It's a pretty strong argument.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's good one to use on your kids or grandkids
if they bring that home with you sometime instead of
immediately combating them there say you know what, I've been
thinking about this a lot. Why are men in prison
at such higher rates than women? I think maybe we
need to go back and look at all of our laws.
They're very sexist, and see how your kids respond.
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Speaker 1 (15:36):
Puomo still has to make a decision about whether he's
gonna drop out or not. But the man, the myth,
the legend, Eric Adams is now potentially sorry, now potentially
the savior of New York City. He's running as an independent.
He saw the train coming down the tracks. He stepped
(15:58):
out of the way before Mom. He flattened him. And
he now says, Mom, Donnie, he's a snake oil salesman.
Listen to this cut twelve.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
He's a snake oil salesman. He would say and do
anything to get elected. Think about this for my moment.
He wants to raise one percent. He wants to raise
tax on one percent of New York as high incommerness.
As a mayor, you don't have the authority to do that.
You know who has the authority to do that? An assemblyman,
(16:27):
which he is. He wants to do free buses, He
could have done it that assembly. Then he doesn't understand
the power of government and how you must making sure
you improve your economy, raise the standard of living.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And this is what we've done in the city.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
And I'm looking forward to being on the campaign trail
and showing New York is we can't go backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Eric Adams has got a second life here as a
guy who a lot of people are going to be
turning to in New York and saying, look, buddy, you're
not great, but you're better than the psychosocialists so what
can you do for us?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, and I think, I mean far be it from us.
I mean Eric Adams has been better than Bill de Blasio,
I think. But you mentioned yesterday, is it Jessica Tish
who is now basically running the NYPD. She's the commissioner,
he is running it. Yeah. I mean they have done
a pretty good job pushing back against the numbers that
(17:24):
skyrocketed during COVID in the first couple of years after,
and if they put mom Donnie back in, we have
an interesting data set of what happens when you decide
you won't let the police do their jobs.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Traff I mean crime skyrockets. I mean, we know what will.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Need, what you really need now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And you know Tish is Jessica Tish is a part
of this, but so is Bloomberg. Before that, you need
the Bruce Wayne effect in Gotham of people who now
don't wear a Batman costume and beat up you know, thugs.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That would be cool, but that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But people who are of the elite and think that
they need to step in and help the city and
not leave it to honestly, the you know a lot
of the s are of low iq from the machine
of New York City politics people to take over because
they're just not good enough.
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We have been talking about the big decision that New
York City is going to have. What do you think
Cuomo does. I was totally wrong. I thought I did
(19:37):
think he would run for mayor. I look like a genius.
Up told I can put this.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
One in the in the Forget file, Clay, Okay, you've
made some great calls this one. This one didn't quite
work out as we thought, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What's the best Let's pretend that you were giving advice
to Andrew Cuomo. Is it to now get behind mom
Donnie and just kind of step off to the side,
or is it to try to run as an independent
and maybe have a secret deal behind the scenes, Because
(20:09):
if he runs as an independent and Eric Adams runs,
then Mom Donnie's definitely gonna win because they will split
the Mam Donnie opposition vote.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think he's a two time loser, and that means
the best thing that he can do is to get
an agent and find his way onto an episode of
Law and Order where he plays a probably elderly mobster
or something along those lines, maybe a corrupt politician. I
do not think that he has a future in New
(20:39):
York politics anymore after this.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't see it, because.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You know you can't win the No, he'll just be
playing spoiler at that point, if I'm a New Yorker
and I'm New York adjacent in my heart, right, I mean,
if I'm a New Yorker still though voting. You know,
I talk to my family about this all the time,
and I want what's best for New York. Not just
for all of our fantastic w r L listeners and
podcast listeners in the New York area. We want the
(21:03):
best for all of you, but also my own family
is there. So when when we talk about safe streets
in New York, I'm thinking about my mom, my dad,
my sister, and I'm thinking about people who I love
and mean a lot to me. So that means that
I want what's best now. In what way is Andrew
Cuomo an improvement over Eric Adams? I have to say,
(21:24):
I don't think he is. And so that's where the problem.
You've got a guy who's already a mayor, already in
the job. Not horrible, Okay, he's not good, you know,
I think Eric Adams. And let me know w o
R listeners if you want, if you think this is
a fair grade. I think he's a you know, if
the Blasio was an f I think Mayor Eric Adams
(21:46):
is probably a C minus maybe a C. You know,
I think that's that's a fair. You know, he's not
intentionally maliciously destroying New York. He's just not a very
good manager.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Uh. He was good on the issue. Let's take a
few things.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He tried to help on the crime issue. Brought in
somebody good here with Jesse Tish to run the NYPED
as commissioner. He spoke out in a way that I
think was really important for the Trump campaign. Actually he
didn't speak on behalf of them. But when he said,
guys were flooded with all these migrants, this is crazy.
He was honest about that and said he didn't want anymore.
So he did do some things that are There's nothing
(22:24):
I can do. Blasio did nothing that is good. Everything
that Blasio did was in my mind, every decision he
made was against the interest of New Yorkers.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And we can just forget about him.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But you know, didn't he run for president, by the way,
didn't run for president for a second.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Wasn't even one of those guys was like I'm also
on the stage.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Everyone was like, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So Clay, I think that Eric Adams is the non
mom downy hope of New.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
York Now and is that enough?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And people who are gonna tell me, Buck you can
get behind Curtis sleeuw Will you can get behind Curtis
slie Will.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Obviously I agree with Curtis. I like Curtis. We've had
on the show several times, had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know, he's it's an eighty twenty Democrat city guys,
it's not It's just not gonna happen. It's just not
gonna happen. I wish you know that that wasn't the case.
But you just had the most radical leftist win the
Democrat primary. You're not about to win over a lot
of Democrats to be a Republican. That's not gonna happen.
They're vote for a Republican.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
A part of me wonders whether there might be such
a panic setting in among the Wall Street universe that
somebody with hundreds of millions of dollars a lah of Bloomberg.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well sid Ackman is by saying he's going to spend
huge money. Bill Ackman, who's the who's kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
We need to get him on the show because I
think that would be an interesting conversation, but he is.
He has been tweeting that that there are people out
there that he thinks he could help to persuade. The
challenge is, whoever is opposed to Mom Donnie. Everybody else
has to drop out, and there has to be one
focal point of Hey, this is the or the gal
(24:01):
as the case may be, who is going to go
head to head against Mom Donnie and everybody has to
get behind this person. My concern is, I think Cuomo's
ego is involved here now, Eric Adams, I don't think
there's any way he's going to drop out, And then
Curtis Sliwa. You start getting all these different groups, and
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it's hard to get to fifty percent plus one when
you've got best many different splintered individuals.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Running.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
De Blasio's presidential campaign, by the way, good research by Ali.
He ran from May sixteenth, twenty nineteen to September twentyeth,
twenty nineteen, spent one point four million dollars, and everybody
just kind of laughed him out of the arena because
even New Yorkers were like, this is one of the
craziest things we've ever seen that a guy who's this
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didn't the guy this unpopular would decide to run, didn't
build the Blasio make news. Most recently, Buck because he
and his wife announced that they were going to basically
have an open marriage.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Am I wrong about this?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think I know this and tried to forget it
because I don't really need to know this stuff. But
I believe there's something like that that has occurred.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, they made a public statement that they were staying married,
but they were going to.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Be with other people.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, what a ridiculous guy that dude was the
fact that he could get elected actually makes me terrified,
because Mom, Donnie, to your point, Buck is actually a
super articulate, smart, charismatic guy who's just wrong about everything.
But he's not an unlikable person, if that makes sense.
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He's wrong about everything, but not unlikable, and also smart
and savvy when it comes to trying to understand how
to make arguments on social media. Yes, I think that
he's more formidable than a lot of people looking from
the outside are are assessing right now, and that's something
to keep in mind as we go forward. So look,
(26:04):
I'm totally I hope, I hope I'm wrong on this one,
and I hope that this is something that you know
that that does not come to pass.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But here is, uh, let me see, we've got Tom
Holman laying down the lag here. You know, there's this
whole separation of powers thing, and here is Tom Holman saying, look,
you can't kick ice out of New York buddy. It's
called federal law play sixteen.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
He's vowed to kick the quote fascist ice out of
New York City. Okay, So how do you intend to
deal with that? Because I would guess there's gonna be
a lot of criminals and Iranian cells and whatnot in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The job's not done there. What do you say to
this guy? Good luck with that?
Speaker 10 (26:50):
Buggle law trumps him every every every every day, every hour,
every minute. We're going to be in New York City.
A matter of fact, because there's a sanctuary city. President
Trump made a clear week and a half ago, we're
going we're going double Downald, triple Downald sanctuary cities.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
If we can't arrest the bad guy and accounted.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
You know, one agent resting one bad guy, they released
him in the streets like New York does every day.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
We got to send whole team to look for this.
This guy.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, that's gonna be a showdown that I don't think
it's gonna go well for Mom Donnie. By the way,
I don't think that he wants to be on the
other side of Tom Homan on the immigration issue because,
first of all, legally, Holman's right, and second of all,
if there's anything that looks like a showdown, this Mam
Donnie guy is gonna shrink away from that fight very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm not sure anybody in the entire Trump team is
working harder right now than Tom Homan is. I mean,
if you look.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
At that Kean Miller, I mean when we saw him,
Steven Miller looks like he looks like he lives on
a cot on the White House floor right now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean he's going through a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
There are a lot of guys who are working unbelievable
hours because they see this as the eighteen months when
Trump is able to be his most defective, efficient version
of himself. But the amount of media that is out
there that Tom Holman is doing on a day to
day basis and the amount of success that he is
having is frankly unparalleled. And I know we talk about
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this on this program and try to make sure that
we reference it often. I'm not sure in our lives
that there has ever been anything that government has fixed
faster and more effectively than the border under Trump when
you consider historic failure under Biden. And it was as
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if a light switch just got flipped or got turned off,
whichever direction you want to go, and overnight everything changed
and it became flawless. And you know that's the case
because it suddenly isn't talked about anywhere, but my goodness,
this is the number one thing Trump said he would fix,
and they don't want to give him any credit for it.
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But Tom Holman and the team and Steven Miller is
a part of this too. They've just been unbelievable on
this front.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Also, want to bring this to your attention again because
I know, you know, we talk about this and it's like, oh,
we're so New York focused and bucks from New York.
And maybe that's why a lot of people are focused
in on this all over the country right now, because
it's a playbook that I think you're going to see
replicated elsewhere, and you could even see replicated in the
twenty twenty eight election cycle, which I know feels like
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in eternity away, but it's not I'll be here before
you know it. And socialist Mamdani Kami Mamdani. This cut
ten is saying, yeah, what I did, This should be
the playbook. This absolutely will work in other cities, in
other states across America.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Play it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You're a proud democratic socialist.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Do you think that is a platform that would work
for other candidates running in other parts of the country.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Absolutely. I think ultimately this is a campaign about inequality,
and you don't have to live in the most expensive
city in the country to have experienced that inequality, because
it's a national issue and what Americans coast to coast
are looking for are people who will fight for them.
And part of how we got to this point was
through the endorsements of Congressman Alexandria Ocasio Cortes and Senator
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Bernie Sanders, who've been leading this fight against oligarchy across
the country. And I think that in focusing on working
people and their struggles, we also return back to what
makes so many of us proud to be Democrats in
the first place.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Not shying away from it at all. Clay, I think
you will see more people try to play this. Remember
The whole thing about socialism is that all you have
to do you find as many people as possible who
are unhappy with some aspect of their day to day life,
and you tell them it's not your fault. There's nothing
that you can do to change this. Other people are
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the reason for this. I'm going to hurt those other people,
usually financially, sometimes more than that. But I'm going to
hurt those other people and take their stuff and give
it to you and make your problems go away. It's
very appealing. It works for a reason, and so I
don't we have not seen the end of this. You know,
on the right, we yell socialism and act like it's
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some kind of argument under a lot of people, a
lot of you, especially gen X and gen Z, they
love their socialism. They don't know what it is, but
sounds good to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The biggest fullaw of capitalism is it provides the wealth
and luxury to think you don't need capitalism anymore. It's
just the lesson out there is you have to have
the freedom and the time and the wealth in order
to make these arguments. And I look at those Mom
Donnie celebration partners. Those aren't poor kids. Celebrating Mom Donnie winning.
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That is not people struggling to put food in their mouths.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I know who they are. I know who they are.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I used to socialize in New York with a lot
of people that would fall into the mom Donnie category.
But Clay, you know, I often mentioned naval Ravakan. Did
you see this? I just thought this was a perfect
one liner on this whole situation. He wrote, socialism is
the suicide pact of mediocrity. It is absolutely true, and
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that really gets the psychology of it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
If there are.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
People that have more than me, people work you know,
that are doing more than me, people that are happier
and enjoying more than me.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I want a.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
System of power that will pull them down and promises
to pull me up. And even if it doesn't pull
me up, as long as it pulls them down, I'll
be happy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
This is why I thought sports was such an important battleground,
because sports is the ultimate meritocracy. Best man or best
woman wins, and as soon as they can start to
create the idea that there's something wrong with that, or
that a boy can be a girl's champ and all
this other stuff, they destroy the underbelly of much of
success in the meritocracy in the country, which is embedded
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in sports. You know, I made this argument something fun
for you guys to think about. Is there anything more
trusted in America today that the scoreboard? Think about that
for a minute, and where everybody sits around and argues
about everything the scoreboard in a game, if it's a
little bit off, everybody's standing up, like, hey, that bucket
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was just made.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You may be upset with officials every now and then,
but I would argue that the scoreboard might be the
most trusted symbol in America today that we trusted to
be able to tell is who's winning and who's losing.
And at the end of a game, everybody says, you
know what that team won or that team lost. Think
about it for a minute. I really think it might
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Speaker 4 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Donna in North Carolina wants to weigh in on a
the Pete Hegseth press conference that we were talking about
to start off the show a couple hours ago.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Donna, thanks for listening.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Uh, it's a privilege to talk to you guys, and
you're welcome and and I'll be quick because I know
I have a short runway here. Uh, just so you
know where I'm coming from. I am a conservative Christian.
I'm a girl raised in the South, a disabled, a
retired veteran. I love Trump, voted for him all three time.
I was enjoying the verbals thanking that Pete hex Seth
(35:26):
was given to the media today. And I love how
feisty he is because honestly, I believe that's what we
need in a leader like him and like Trump. And
I've been following the comment on the being a veteran,
I fought a lady sometimes a lady. I've been following
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the comment about the boys and the bomber, and I thought, well,
you know, didn't bother me. I'm like the last caller.
Being called one of the boys in many ways could
be a privilege. But you know, he's a feisty guy,
and he's up against all those people who are against
him when he's talking to him. And I think, given
that this was something that was first posed as a
question about the referring to them the boys and the bomber,
(36:11):
you know didn't bother me. And I thought, Hm, that's
a missed opportunity. So just kind of like was watching
social media and seeing everybody say stop, stop, stop being
word pleased, and it's like, I recognize that the left
weaponize the languages and they try to redefine things all
the time, and they love sound bite, but I just
kind of feel like it was a missed opportunity because
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he could have blunted that message somewhat by saying, you know,
I think those who serve in the military understand that
we're not trying to slight the women. You know that
this was an historic lady pilot who did something that's
never been done in it.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Okay, we're coming up on an end of the hour.
Thank you for the call. I think the challenge is bucking.
We'll maybe build on this a bit in the third hour.
The question wasn't coming from a place of goodness. It
was designed to attack them.
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Danny Mania sweeping the Democrats all across this land of ours.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And uh, we all know from yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
That this guy Zoran Mamadani is the Democrat nominee for
the mayor of New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now that's not a done deal. There are some long
bomb in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hopes that maybe Eric Adams could pull this off, or
maybe there's some Cuomo deal, although I think Cuomo now
is just considered a loser.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right the comeback, Clay.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
The comeback has not worked out the way that Cuomo
wanted these the spaghetti and to meet balls was not
as good.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
As he was hoping for.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's because it was a total whiff by me, Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I mean, I really thought that they had rolled out
the red carpet for him. I thought he was going
to win the mayoral race and would then use it
as the jumping off point to be a candidate in
twenty twenty eight. Instead, I think his political career is over.
I think I think he gave up the political ghosts,
so to speak, in that loss and the way that
he lost.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So now here here's again, I have to I bring
this to your attention because so go with New York City,
So go with a lot of other Democrat cities. I
think this is going to be viewed. So if you
live in Texas and you're like, well, that's New York's problem. Yeah,
But you know you live in a city like Houston
or Dallas, which is Democrat majority, unfortunately, this might affect
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you. You know, obviously, if you live in California, you're in
a Democrat enclave state wide. You know, there's a lot
of stuff, a lot of stuff that that will filter
out from this, And I think it's an interesting test
case because you already have national level them. You had
Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, I don't even know he was
on Twitter. He was like, hey, here, you're a socialist.
(02:29):
You love those pretty ladies. I lock pretty ladies too.
We should talk, you know. Bill Clinton all of a
sudden giving his congratulations Komaney himself just kidding. Komane didn't
congratulate him, but it would have been funny if he had.
Komaanie did say that they've won the war, though, that
is I do have that one here.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
We'll get to that later.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Bill Clinton, congratulations to Zoron on your victory, wishing you success.
Well yeah, yeah, nothing really interesting there. But Bill Clinton
weighed in AOC and Bernie. There's really there's really a
decision that's being made with AOC within the Democrat Party.
There's the AOC Bernie pathway, and then there's the you know,
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somebody who's the Democrat in charge of Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What's that guy I'm forgetting blanket.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know, there's like the Basheer or the governor of
Maryland or the you know, there's that like I'm a Democrat,
but I'm not like one of those crazy Democrats. They'll
do whatever Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi tell them, but
they pretend not to be right. Right now, you've just
had a big win go up on the board for
the crazy AOC wing of the Democrat Party, and I
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understand you might say, Buck, they'll never be able to
win a national election.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Kamala lost by in the electoral college, which is what matters.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
A couple of hundred thousand votes really, right, meaning I
understand she lost by a lot more she lost the
popular vote. I'm not taking away from Trump's enormous victory.
It was fantastic. But if you were able to shift
a couple hundred thousand votes in half a dozen states,
really less than half the states, Kamala Harris would have
been president.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So don't let's not.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Get complacent about the fact that the worst presidential candidate
in my lifetime is somebody who wasn't that far.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It was not like a you know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Mondale, absolute thrashing. Okay, this was something that was closer
than it should have been. Now let's just just because
of why I don't want you to think, oh, this
is just New York City's problem. This is that's like
saying Soros prosecutors were New York's problem. Oh wait, hold
on a second. They were in every major city in
the country for a while. There were Soros prosecutors in
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Saint Louis, and in and in Philly and in la
and let you know, you get it on the list
right Chicago. Soros money all over the country. So you
have to watch these trends. Clay, let's get into some
of the crazy stuff here. Socialist democrat Zoran Mamdani. Something
that he says he wants to do. This is cut nine.
(04:57):
This guy says he wants to a eight hundred percent
increase hate crime prevention.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Play this.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know that Jewish New Yorkers, like Jewish Americans, are
fearful in this moment of antisemitism. And ultimately it's through
the conversations I've had with Jewish New Yorkers that I
have developed a proposal for the Department of Community Safety
that would include an eight hundred percent increase in funding
for hate crime prevention programs. Because ultimately, we cannot simply
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say that antisemitism has no home in this city or
no place in this country. We have to do more
than talk about it. We have to tackle it, and
that's what we will do. Through this funding and through
this commitment, we will root out bigotry across the five boroughs.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Let me just throw this out there, Clay.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
This is going to absolutely not work at all to
stop any bigotry, but it will be a way to
fund left wing and doctrination programs in community centers, schools
and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, and look, I think what you're saying is so
important because a lot of people think, oh, y York City,
that doesn't really impact my life in a substantial way.
I think who with the mayor of New York City
is impacts all of our lives, even if you live
in the smallest town in Alabama or the most remote
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part of Utah. The decisions made in New York City,
given its primacy as the financial capital of the world,
have a major residence, and the idea that New York
City is going to potentially elect a guy like mom
Donnie should be a clarion call for sanity to ring forth.
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And I think maybe some of these parents that are
subsidizing all their kids to live in New York City.
Producer Ali made a good point yesterday, But I do
think it's true that a lot of mom Donnie's voters
are young under thirties who otherwise wouldn't be living in
New York City but for the fact that their parents
are helping to pay their rent, and they have decided
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they like social the parents like capitalism because that's how
they can afford to take care of their kids. But
I do think that there's a generational divide here, and
I think as you break all of this down, unfortunately, look,
I don't know that the Democrat Party, this is a
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good question for you, buck is still in a powerful
enough position that they would be able to knock out
a Bernie Sanders candidacy. Now that they would be able
to knock out an AOC candidacy. Now, I think the
party is so fractured and so broken. And you might say, Okay,
well that's good. The problem is they could win. I
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don't think it's a crazy idea that Bernie Sanders could
if he weren't eighty three or eighty four or whatever
the heck he is, that he could catch fire, someone
like him could catch fire and end up as the president.
I don't think it's a crazy, ridiculous idea.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm gonna tell you something I watched a lot of
these mom Donnie videos, and the guy is the guy
is very slick, He understands social media. He comes across
as just objectively. He comes across as affable and pretty
humble and a guy who.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Just wants to talk to people.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
He did this whole video it's now gone pretty viral
play where he goes around talking to like, you know,
if people call him like halal carts, like the meat,
meat and rice carts that are in New York City,
asking them like why is it so expensive? Like why
is it ten or twelve dollars now for this wouldn't
couldn't be less? And he has these guys he goes
right in and they're saying, Oh, it's because of city permitting.
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The city permitting process is corrupt and takes too long
and it's too expensive. And he goes, oh, we're going
to fix that. You know, say what you will about
the fact that he was, you know, freezing. There's a
whole bill Ackman has a whole takedown to this guy.
Freezing rent prices is just going to make the house
shortage worse worse because it means that you know, there
are expenses that are already baked in and people have
(09:05):
to build more, and they don't want to build more
if they can't actually charge the market rate anyway. So
here he's an economic illiterate, but he understands Mom, Donnie,
understands story, and he understands social media and how to
connect with an audience. I you know, don't don't sleep
on this guy.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You know, we have this thing, you know, and I
know we've done this with AOC two. Oh you know, Jess,
but this guy doesn't strike me as dumb. Wrong, yes, dumb. No,
he doesn't strike me as dumb and you know, horrible ideas, certainly,
But this is the other you know, the option that
Democrats have is not is to say we're not going
(09:44):
to go towards the center and try to reform our crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We're gonna double down on crazy. We're just gonna package
it better. Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think AOC sees this and says, I'm running for
president now in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Absolutely, I've said that's all along. You asked me right
after this election, who's going to be the leader Democrat
Party as well? I said AOC at one point. And
then I've also mentioned Wes Moore, the governor of Maryland,
but those are the pathways. There's the AOC hard left
socialists just say the stuff that you want to say
as and then there's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The oh, I'm not like them, I'm more normal, and then.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You get the AOC policies. But you get somebody who
pretends to be something else during the election cycle. That's
the lecture approach.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
The Democrat Party has the ability to slap down someone
like Bernie Sanders if he were running today, which if
I'm looking at AOC, I'm saying, mom Donnie just ran through.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
What did Mom Donnie do?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
He's pretty good on social media, you may think, and
I certainly think that AOC is economically illiterate and a moron.
There's a huge audience for what she puts out on
social media, and she's skilled at that. Now I don't
I hope that her overall policies are so crazy and
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she would do such a poor job even of those
policies that she would not be capable of winning an election.
But I think you're starting to see that the Democrat
Party had two pathways. They could wake up and be
somewhat more sane, or at least pretend to be more sane,
and take the more moderate path as they move towards
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twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight, or they could
double triple and quadruple down on crazy. And it seems
to me that the early returns, based on what we
saw in New York City, are that they're going to
double triple, quadruple down on crazy. And you know, now
we're in a situation where Eric Adams is the savior
(11:38):
of New York City, and that's only if they can
get Cuomo to officially drop out, if they can find
a way to kind of corral this strange coalition that
potentially he would be able to bring to bear, and
that would require black voters interestingly deciding that they had
to show up in a monster number for Eric Adams
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in order to offset a lot of these young white
voters that have fallen in love with socialism.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So you've got Mamdanie talking about the eight hundred percent
increase in the anti bigotry forces, not police, like, I
don't know what they're going to be bigotry prevention programs. Also,
as we know in New York talking about if you're
talking about anti Semitic or anti Asian bigotry, Yeah, probably
(12:29):
not gonna if you're a leftist, you're not going to
like the demographics that are disproportionately targeting those groups. This
is just a matter of fact, a matter of numbers
and data. But put that aside for a moment. Here
is really at the heart of it. Mamdani saying that
our criminal justices and this is cut eight, is just
straight up racist.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
The alternatives are things that we must look to immediately,
both with regards to you neighborhood groups who do anti
violence work and are shown to be more effective than
the police, but also asking you know, if we have
an understanding that our criminal justice system is racist, which
is quite a general understanding now it seems to be
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shared by many, many people, then how can we simultaneously
be investing in it as the way we both judge
and determine the futures of so many people in our state.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Now that was twenty twenty, granted, but the criminal justice
system in this country is actually not racist.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It is not racist.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I know that this is something democrats love to say,
but the laws are the laws, and we.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Have talked about this before, and to me, the way
that this gets destroyed is if you just push back
anybody who says this just nod and say super sexist too.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Why are men charged with the crime?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Men do?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Really unfair those murdered laws. Men do all the murders.
This is my favorite argument, Claiy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We've been making it here for a long time because
they don't know what to say, because they have to admit, Yeah,
men commit more murders. We just threw sorry, guys, we're
the ones who kill people. Does that mean we change
the murder laws? Does that mean that murder laws are sexist?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It does not. It's a pretty strong argument.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's good one to use on your kids or grandkids
if they bring that home with you sometime instead of
immediately combating them there say you know what, I've been
thinking about this a lot. Why are men in prison
at such higher rates than women? I think maybe we
need to go back and look at all of our laws.
They're very sexist, and see how your kids respond.
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Puomo still has to make a decision about whether he's
gonna drop out or not. But the man, the myth,
the legend, Eric Adams is now potentially sorry, now potentially
the savior of New York City. He's running as an independent.
He saw the train coming down the tracks. He stepped
(15:58):
out of the way before Mom. He flattened him. And
he now says, Mom, Donnie, he's a snake oil salesman.
Listen to this cut twelve.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
He's a snake oil salesman. He would say and do
anything to get elected. Think about this for my moment.
He wants to raise one percent. He wants to raise
tax on one percent of New York as high incommerness.
As a mayor, you don't have the authority to do that.
You know who has the authority to do that? An assemblyman,
(16:27):
which he is. He wants to do free buses, He
could have done it that assembly. Then he doesn't understand
the power of government and how you must making sure
you improve your economy, raise the standard of living.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And this is what we've done in the city.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
And I'm looking forward to being on the campaign trail
and showing New York is we can't go backwards.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Eric Adams has got a second life here as a
guy who a lot of people are going to be
turning to in New York and saying, look, buddy, you're
not great, but you're better than the psychosocialists so what
can you do for us?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, and I think, I mean far be it from us.
I mean Eric Adams has been better than Bill de Blasio,
I think. But you mentioned yesterday, is it Jessica Tish
who is now basically running the NYPD. She's the commissioner,
he is running it. Yeah. I mean they have done
a pretty good job pushing back against the numbers that
(17:24):
skyrocketed during COVID in the first couple of years after,
and if they put mom Donnie back in, we have
an interesting data set of what happens when you decide
you won't let the police do their jobs.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Traff I mean crime skyrockets. I mean, we know what will.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Need, what you really need now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
And you know Tish is Jessica Tish is a part
of this, but so is Bloomberg. Before that, you need
the Bruce Wayne effect in Gotham of people who now
don't wear a Batman costume and beat up you know, thugs.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That would be cool, but that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
But people who are of the elite and think that
they need to step in and help the city and
not leave it to honestly, the you know a lot
of the s are of low iq from the machine
of New York City politics people to take over because
they're just not good enough.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
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right now on the intel leaks surrounding the Iran operation.
We have been talking about the big decision that New
York City is going to have. What do you think
Cuomo does. I was totally wrong. I thought I did
(19:37):
think he would run for mayor. I look like a genius.
Up told I can put this.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
One in the in the Forget file, Clay, Okay, you've
made some great calls this one. This one didn't quite
work out as we thought, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What's the best Let's pretend that you were giving advice
to Andrew Cuomo. Is it to now get behind mom
Donnie and just kind of step off to the side,
or is it to try to run as an independent
and maybe have a secret deal behind the scenes, Because
(20:09):
if he runs as an independent and Eric Adams runs,
then Mom Donnie's definitely gonna win because they will split
the Mam Donnie opposition vote.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think he's a two time loser, and that means
the best thing that he can do is to get
an agent and find his way onto an episode of
Law and Order where he plays a probably elderly mobster
or something along those lines, maybe a corrupt politician. I
do not think that he has a future in New
(20:39):
York politics anymore after this.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't see it, because.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You know you can't win the No, he'll just be
playing spoiler at that point, if I'm a New Yorker
and I'm New York adjacent in my heart, right, I mean,
if I'm a New Yorker still though voting. You know,
I talk to my family about this all the time,
and I want what's best for New York. Not just
for all of our fantastic w r L listeners and
podcast listeners in the New York area. We want the
(21:03):
best for all of you, but also my own family
is there. So when when we talk about safe streets
in New York, I'm thinking about my mom, my dad,
my sister, and I'm thinking about people who I love
and mean a lot to me. So that means that
I want what's best now. In what way is Andrew
Cuomo an improvement over Eric Adams? I have to say,
(21:24):
I don't think he is. And so that's where the problem.
You've got a guy who's already a mayor, already in
the job. Not horrible, Okay, he's not good, you know,
I think Eric Adams. And let me know w o
R listeners if you want, if you think this is
a fair grade. I think he's a you know, if
the Blasio was an f I think Mayor Eric Adams
(21:46):
is probably a C minus maybe a C. You know,
I think that's that's a fair. You know, he's not
intentionally maliciously destroying New York. He's just not a very
good manager.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Uh. He was good on the issue. Let's take a
few things.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
He tried to help on the crime issue. Brought in
somebody good here with Jesse Tish to run the NYPED
as commissioner. He spoke out in a way that I
think was really important for the Trump campaign. Actually he
didn't speak on behalf of them. But when he said,
guys were flooded with all these migrants, this is crazy.
He was honest about that and said he didn't want anymore.
So he did do some things that are There's nothing
(22:24):
I can do. Blasio did nothing that is good. Everything
that Blasio did was in my mind, every decision he
made was against the interest of New Yorkers.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And we can just forget about him.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
But you know, didn't he run for president, by the way,
didn't run for president for a second.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I think he did.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Wasn't even one of those guys was like I'm also
on the stage.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Everyone was like, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So Clay, I think that Eric Adams is the non
mom downy hope of New.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
York Now and is that enough?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
And people who are gonna tell me, Buck you can
get behind Curtis sleeuw Will you can get behind Curtis
slie Will.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Obviously I agree with Curtis. I like Curtis. We've had
on the show several times, had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know, he's it's an eighty twenty Democrat city guys,
it's not It's just not gonna happen. It's just not
gonna happen. I wish you know that that wasn't the case.
But you just had the most radical leftist win the
Democrat primary. You're not about to win over a lot
of Democrats to be a Republican. That's not gonna happen.
They're vote for a Republican.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
A part of me wonders whether there might be such
a panic setting in among the Wall Street universe that
somebody with hundreds of millions of dollars a lah of Bloomberg.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well sid Ackman is by saying he's going to spend
huge money. Bill Ackman, who's the who's kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
We need to get him on the show because I
think that would be an interesting conversation, but he is.
He has been tweeting that that there are people out
there that he thinks he could help to persuade. The
challenge is, whoever is opposed to Mom Donnie. Everybody else
has to drop out, and there has to be one
focal point of Hey, this is the or the gal
(24:01):
as the case may be, who is going to go
head to head against Mom Donnie and everybody has to
get behind this person. My concern is, I think Cuomo's
ego is involved here now, Eric Adams, I don't think
there's any way he's going to drop out, And then
Curtis Sliwa. You start getting all these different groups, and
(24:23):
it's hard to get to fifty percent plus one when
you've got best many different splintered individuals.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Running.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
De Blasio's presidential campaign, by the way, good research by Ali.
He ran from May sixteenth, twenty nineteen to September twentyeth,
twenty nineteen, spent one point four million dollars, and everybody
just kind of laughed him out of the arena because
even New Yorkers were like, this is one of the
craziest things we've ever seen that a guy who's this
(24:54):
didn't the guy this unpopular would decide to run, didn't
build the Blasio make news. Most recently, Buck because he
and his wife announced that they were going to basically
have an open marriage.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Am I wrong about this?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I think I know this and tried to forget it
because I don't really need to know this stuff. But
I believe there's something like that that has occurred.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, they made a public statement that they were staying married,
but they were going to.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Be with other people.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mean, what a ridiculous guy that dude was the
fact that he could get elected actually makes me terrified,
because Mom, Donnie, to your point, Buck is actually a
super articulate, smart, charismatic guy who's just wrong about everything.
But he's not an unlikable person, if that makes sense.
(25:43):
He's wrong about everything, but not unlikable, and also smart
and savvy when it comes to trying to understand how
to make arguments on social media. Yes, I think that
he's more formidable than a lot of people looking from
the outside are are assessing right now, and that's something
to keep in mind as we go forward. So look,
(26:04):
I'm totally I hope, I hope I'm wrong on this one,
and I hope that this is something that you know
that that does not come to pass.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But here is, uh, let me see, we've got Tom
Holman laying down the lag here. You know, there's this
whole separation of powers thing, and here is Tom Holman saying, look,
you can't kick ice out of New York buddy. It's
called federal law play sixteen.
Speaker 9 (26:34):
He's vowed to kick the quote fascist ice out of
New York City. Okay, So how do you intend to
deal with that? Because I would guess there's gonna be
a lot of criminals and Iranian cells and whatnot in
New York City.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
The job's not done there. What do you say to
this guy? Good luck with that?
Speaker 10 (26:50):
Buggle law trumps him every every every every day, every hour,
every minute. We're going to be in New York City.
A matter of fact, because there's a sanctuary city. President
Trump made a clear week and a half ago, we're
going we're going double Downald, triple Downald sanctuary cities.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
If we can't arrest the bad guy and accounted.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
You know, one agent resting one bad guy, they released
him in the streets like New York does every day.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
We got to send whole team to look for this.
This guy.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, that's gonna be a showdown that I don't think
it's gonna go well for Mom Donnie. By the way,
I don't think that he wants to be on the
other side of Tom Homan on the immigration issue because,
first of all, legally, Holman's right, and second of all,
if there's anything that looks like a showdown, this Mam
Donnie guy is gonna shrink away from that fight very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm not sure anybody in the entire Trump team is
working harder right now than Tom Homan is. I mean,
if you look.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
At that Kean Miller, I mean when we saw him,
Steven Miller looks like he looks like he lives on
a cot on the White House floor right now.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean he's going through a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
There are a lot of guys who are working unbelievable
hours because they see this as the eighteen months when
Trump is able to be his most defective, efficient version
of himself. But the amount of media that is out
there that Tom Holman is doing on a day to
day basis and the amount of success that he is
having is frankly unparalleled. And I know we talk about
(28:15):
this on this program and try to make sure that
we reference it often. I'm not sure in our lives
that there has ever been anything that government has fixed
faster and more effectively than the border under Trump when
you consider historic failure under Biden. And it was as
(28:37):
if a light switch just got flipped or got turned off,
whichever direction you want to go, and overnight everything changed
and it became flawless. And you know that's the case
because it suddenly isn't talked about anywhere, but my goodness,
this is the number one thing Trump said he would fix,
and they don't want to give him any credit for it.
(28:59):
But Tom Holman and the team and Steven Miller is
a part of this too. They've just been unbelievable on
this front.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Also, want to bring this to your attention again because
I know, you know, we talk about this and it's like, oh,
we're so New York focused and bucks from New York.
And maybe that's why a lot of people are focused
in on this all over the country right now, because
it's a playbook that I think you're going to see
replicated elsewhere, and you could even see replicated in the
twenty twenty eight election cycle, which I know feels like
(29:24):
in eternity away, but it's not I'll be here before
you know it. And socialist Mamdani Kami Mamdani. This cut
ten is saying, yeah, what I did, This should be
the playbook. This absolutely will work in other cities, in
other states across America.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Play it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You're a proud democratic socialist.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Do you think that is a platform that would work
for other candidates running in other parts of the country.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Absolutely. I think ultimately this is a campaign about inequality,
and you don't have to live in the most expensive
city in the country to have experienced that inequality, because
it's a national issue and what Americans coast to coast
are looking for are people who will fight for them.
And part of how we got to this point was
through the endorsements of Congressman Alexandria Ocasio Cortes and Senator
(30:11):
Bernie Sanders, who've been leading this fight against oligarchy across
the country. And I think that in focusing on working
people and their struggles, we also return back to what
makes so many of us proud to be Democrats in
the first place.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Not shying away from it at all. Clay, I think
you will see more people try to play this. Remember
The whole thing about socialism is that all you have
to do you find as many people as possible who
are unhappy with some aspect of their day to day life,
and you tell them it's not your fault. There's nothing
that you can do to change this. Other people are
(30:45):
the reason for this. I'm going to hurt those other people,
usually financially, sometimes more than that. But I'm going to
hurt those other people and take their stuff and give
it to you and make your problems go away. It's
very appealing. It works for a reason, and so I
don't we have not seen the end of this. You know,
on the right, we yell socialism and act like it's
(31:06):
some kind of argument under a lot of people, a
lot of you, especially gen X and gen Z, they
love their socialism. They don't know what it is, but
sounds good to them.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The biggest fullaw of capitalism is it provides the wealth
and luxury to think you don't need capitalism anymore. It's
just the lesson out there is you have to have
the freedom and the time and the wealth in order
to make these arguments. And I look at those Mom
Donnie celebration partners. Those aren't poor kids. Celebrating Mom Donnie winning.
(31:40):
That is not people struggling to put food in their mouths.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I know who they are. I know who they are.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I used to socialize in New York with a lot
of people that would fall into the mom Donnie category.
But Clay, you know, I often mentioned naval Ravakan. Did
you see this? I just thought this was a perfect
one liner on this whole situation. He wrote, socialism is
the suicide pact of mediocrity. It is absolutely true, and
(32:07):
that really gets the psychology of it.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
If there are.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
People that have more than me, people work you know,
that are doing more than me, people that are happier
and enjoying more than me.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I want a.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
System of power that will pull them down and promises
to pull me up. And even if it doesn't pull
me up, as long as it pulls them down, I'll
be happy.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
This is why I thought sports was such an important battleground,
because sports is the ultimate meritocracy. Best man or best
woman wins, and as soon as they can start to
create the idea that there's something wrong with that, or
that a boy can be a girl's champ and all
this other stuff, they destroy the underbelly of much of
success in the meritocracy in the country, which is embedded
(32:51):
in sports. You know, I made this argument something fun
for you guys to think about. Is there anything more
trusted in America today that the scoreboard? Think about that
for a minute, and where everybody sits around and argues
about everything the scoreboard in a game, if it's a
little bit off, everybody's standing up, like, hey, that bucket
(33:13):
was just made.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You may be upset with officials every now and then,
but I would argue that the scoreboard might be the
most trusted symbol in America today that we trusted to
be able to tell is who's winning and who's losing.
And at the end of a game, everybody says, you
know what that team won or that team lost. Think
about it for a minute. I really think it might
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Speaker 4 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Donna in North Carolina wants to weigh in on a
the Pete Hegseth press conference that we were talking about
to start off the show a couple hours ago.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Donna, thanks for listening.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Uh, it's a privilege to talk to you guys, and
you're welcome and and I'll be quick because I know
I have a short runway here. Uh, just so you
know where I'm coming from. I am a conservative Christian.
I'm a girl raised in the South, a disabled, a
retired veteran. I love Trump, voted for him all three time.
I was enjoying the verbals thanking that Pete hex Seth
(35:26):
was given to the media today. And I love how
feisty he is because honestly, I believe that's what we
need in a leader like him and like Trump. And
I've been following the comment on the being a veteran,
I fought a lady sometimes a lady. I've been following
(35:46):
the comment about the boys and the bomber, and I thought, well,
you know, didn't bother me. I'm like the last caller.
Being called one of the boys in many ways could
be a privilege. But you know, he's a feisty guy,
and he's up against all those people who are against
him when he's talking to him. And I think, given
that this was something that was first posed as a
question about the referring to them the boys and the bomber,
(36:11):
you know didn't bother me. And I thought, Hm, that's
a missed opportunity. So just kind of like was watching
social media and seeing everybody say stop, stop, stop being
word pleased, and it's like, I recognize that the left
weaponize the languages and they try to redefine things all
the time, and they love sound bite, but I just
kind of feel like it was a missed opportunity because
(36:33):
he could have blunted that message somewhat by saying, you know,
I think those who serve in the military understand that
we're not trying to slight the women. You know that
this was an historic lady pilot who did something that's
never been done in it.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Okay, we're coming up on an end of the hour.
Thank you for the call. I think the challenge is bucking.
We'll maybe build on this a bit in the third hour.
The question wasn't coming from a place of goodness. It
was designed to attack them.
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