May 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the ongoing controversy surrounding former President Joe Biden’s cognitive fitness and the media’s alleged complicity in covering it up. Clay and Buck analyze revelations from the new book Original Sin, which they argue confirms long-held suspicions about Biden’s inner circle concealing his condition. The hosts criticize mainstream media figures like Jake Tapper and Joe Scarborough, accusing them of participating in what they describe as a coordinated “information operation” to mislead the public during the 2020 and 2024 election cycles. The discussion highlights the editorial shift in legacy media outlets like The Washington Post and The New York Times, which the hosts claim have transitioned from objective journalism to subscription-driven echo chambers. They argue that these outlets now cater to ideological fan bases rather than pursuing truth, contributing to the “balkanization” of media and public discourse. Clay and Buck also explore the broader implications of media bias, questioning whether liberal audiences were genuinely unaware of Biden’s condition or willfully ignored it to defeat Donald Trump. They suggest that recent media “mea culpas” are more about damage control than genuine accountability. In the second half of the hour, the show shifts focus to a tragic antisemitic attack in Washington, D.C., where a young Jewish couple was murdered. The hosts speak with Yael Eckstein, President and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, who offers a powerful response from Israel. She connects the attack to rising global antisemitism and the dangerous rhetoric emerging from pro-Palestinian protests on U.S. college campuses. Eckstein emphasizes the need for unity among Jews and Christians and praises former President Trump for his swift condemnation of the attack. The hour concludes with a brief, lighthearted segment on the New York Knicks’ historic playoff collapse, offering a moment of levity amid the heavy political and cultural commentary.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour of Clay and Bock kicks off now,
and we have the continued Biden cover up going on.
We all know that we've been told some very interesting
things about the inner circle of Joe Biden and how
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they were hiding. They were hiding Biden put simply, And
what's interesting about this is we knew that because we
said it over and over again every single day. And
yet it reminds me a bit about how we knew
that the lockdowns and school closures during COVID were completely
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unnecessary and horrifically stupid. And we said it every single day,
every single day. But you know, somehow it didn't. It
didn't register with the other side. It didn't really make sense.
But okay, so now we have the book that has
come out. I thought this was the case, was going
to be the case all along, this book Original Sin,
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which is now being told it's sold out. I was
buying copies. I'm not buying a.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Copy Clay Clay.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I may buy a Clay, damn it. I just I
want to read it because I want to know if
there is I want to be able to speak on
it as as in depth as I possibly can. I
would but I respect that you don't want to read
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it and don't want to pay a dark haired copy
from you in DC. Okay, Laura was very unhappy that
I said I was going to buy it. She was
very angry about it, my wife, you know. But I
have not bought it yet, but I'm going to be
in a I've got a car ride up to the
ND five hundred this weekend, and uh, I figure maybe
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I can read along for for part of that ride.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I need a new book.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, Well, so sorry, I apologized everyone for forsaking, for forsaking, notwithstanding, notwithstanding,
I do not recomen you, bibe. But here's here's what
I think is so interesting going on right now. Uh,
it's exactly as we thought, just you know everything, We
see all this coming, and they still do it, they
still say it. So I think there's something to that,
right And one of the realities is they're going with
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the Oh my gosh, Biden was just so cagey and
we're just so dumb that we couldn't figure out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What all of the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Publicly, you know, it's one thing to say we knew,
but we were quiet about it. We were talking about
this every day. This was a sky is blue phenomenon.
You know, we're saying, hey, guys, a sky is blue,
and then you know, months and months and months of
Biden and then sure enough they're like, wait a second,
are you saying that we know what color the sky is?
(02:54):
These people are shameless, and the most shameless of all
may in fact be well, I don't know, Tapper or Scarborough.
This was an op. This was an information operation. This
was propaganda. This was an active choice made to just
pretend like nothing was going on here. Right, we were
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talking to them, We knew they could hear us, but
they just gave us the silent treatment on this. Right,
that's what was going on. And Tapper goes on Scarborough's
show with I need you to hear this because Clay,
I'm almost impressed with the hootspa. I'm almost impressed with
the uh wow, the gall to try this one on
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for size for everybody. And it is that there was
a special campaign from the White House, just a fool,
good old Joe Scarborough play eight.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Our reporting indicates that Joe Biden, who as you know,
is a frequent viewer of the show, saw when David
Ignatius wrote that column and I think August twenty twenty
three say that Joe Biden should not run for reelection
because of what he had been hearing, right, And he
came on this show and you guys had a robust
conversation about this.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You largely agreed that you had been hearing.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Things about this, but that there was really no alternative
that Kamala Harris was not up to the job. That's
what Democrats were telling you. Behind the scenes, Joe Biden
saw that. Joe Biden said to staffers that he wanted
to convince you that you were wrong, and he focused
on you like you were a constituency, like you were
farmers in Iowa, like you were the Kawanas Club in
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New Hampshire, and he made sure that you thought differently.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Clay, Clay, come on, now, this to me seems very clear.
This is he's got Tapper is going around like the
Pope of liberalism and giving people absolution. Like do you
know Joe that there was a special you who said
the dumbest thing maybe ever spoken on cable news, which
you and I know, Clay, that is something right, maybe
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the dumbest thing ever said. Oh, but the House was
running a campaign to fool you. Yeah, this ties in.
First of all, I don't think that if that were true,
the campaign would even need to be that effective, because
Joe Scarborough wanted to say that Biden was perfectly fine,
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so he was predisposed to buy into all of this
clap trap. But I think it's much bigger, and I
think this is important. Yesterday the Washington Post and I'm
looking at it right now, had an editorial up.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did you see this?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
If Biden was too frail for his job, voters should
have been informed. This is the Washington Post editorial board.
Take gee, who might have a job that is designed
to tell voters what people in positions of power might
need to know that those in positions of power might
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not want them to know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The free press. It's the litter, the only reason they exist. Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But this is important, and I think it's so important,
and I think many people still haven't gotten haven't realized it.
This isn't a flaw. It's the system that has been designed.
And in particular, I've made this argument before. I don't
think a lot of people have realized it. Back in
(06:23):
the day when the Washington Post took down Richard Nixon
over Watergate and when they frankly tried to take down
Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinsky. Do you know how they
made money advertising? The more people who bought their newspaper
and saw the ads, the higher the circulation, the more
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money they made. And so there wasn't an incentive to
try to do the biggest, boldest, brashest, maybe sometimes riskiest
Pentagon Papers story because more people then paid attention to
your newspaper a little bit of money, Eric Clay because
the Drudge Report came to national prominence, because it was
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the Drudge Report, not the Washington Post that broke the
Monica story. Because the Beltway press was defending Clinton because
they've always been playing political games like this. But I
can tell you reading the Clinton coverage they went after
him pretty hard. And but regardless, the story is advertising.
(07:29):
What I believe has not been talked about enough for
the New York Times and for the Washington Post. Subscription
models digitally, which is basically what these businesses are, are
no longer in the business of actually telling people news
and aggregating the biggest possible audience. They're now in the
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business of serving fans and what New York Times subscribers
and Washington Post subscribers are like fan base is that
subscribe to online sports message boards. They never break negative
news because they were play. Yeah, this is true, Clay.
I would also add though, that the whole business of
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news as everyone's carrying around essentially a what would have
been a supercomputer like thirty years ago, it's completely changed, right,
I mean, what did CNN give you that you couldn't
get before? In the nineties you could turn on news, right,
it wasn't really an option. And now we've got we've got,
you know, countless websites, We've got Twitter, we've got citizen journalists,
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you know. So the having information flow is no longer
the value proposition. Certainly that it was in the Watergate era,
but even than it was I think in the nineties.
Added to what you're talking about, which is the balkanization
of audience and the fan fiction stuff is how we've
gotten that. I mean, the New York Times editorial board
is insane. I mean, these people live in an alternate universe.
And Jake Tapper coming forward now, Clay, it's like there's
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a revelation and he shared this with all of us,
as if we didn't know the part of this that
he and his buddies are skipping over is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
We all knew. We said it every day, right.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
This is not the revelation. But this is also where
a lot of those people have no idea what we
say on the program. And this goes to the Balkanization.
This is why I asked you. I think it was
Yesterdayier did a Laura Trump though they clay they were
there were efforts to try to get this to cross over,
and people like Tapper shut it down. Oh I agree.
(09:32):
What I'm saying is they will. And this is what
this is what I spend a huge amount of my
time thinking about. Now I'm on the media nerd side.
When you really look at the Balkanization. We know every
one of you watching and or listening to us right now.
We told you yesterday as soon as Trump had that
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Oval office event, we knew exactly what the New York
Times would say about it. We knew what CNN would
say about it. We told you before they even said it.
We are aware on this program, and most of you
are too. You are steeped in the arguments of the left.
You consider what they say, and you adjust your arguments
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to make better arguments. As a result, they have no
idea what we say. Whatever percentage of the audience that
has died in the wall MSNBC fan that is, if
the extent Jake Tapper has fans, those people are not
subject to most of the arguments that we make here
every day. Now, there's a ton of you out there
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listening to us right now who found us partly because
of new media, because you saw a video get shared.
This is why I don't mind getting attacked, because when
you get attacked by the left, it actually exposes your
arguments to the left. And maybe seventy five percent of
people are like, that guy's a moron, I hate him.
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Twenty five percent are like, oh, that's an interesting argument.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It gets into the question of how many people are persuadable.
And this is why I was asking a question. If
you were a rational, reasonable adult, capable of logic and contemplation,
if you had been watching MSNBC and only reading the
New York Times, you might have bought into the idea
(11:24):
that Joe Biden was not mentally and physically deficient. Everybody
listening to this program is known in for.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Years, right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't think anyone really bought it. That's my whole
I think this is another the whole thing's another off.
I think everybody knew. I think everybody was aware, and
now I think everybody was pretending they weren't aware because
of the implications of what that would be. I think
the audience was aware that the argument made a sister call.
We did not get a single call from a Democrat
being like I was fooled. You know, we asked for
it yesterday. Now maybe that's just because this is our show.
(11:53):
We don't have a ton of left wing lunatics listening.
But I don't think anybody was fooled by this.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
In Clay.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Here's also why I think this isn't the This isn't
coming clean. This is clean up, okay, this is this
is an op from Tapper and the whole rest of
the bunch, because they've completely lit their whatever credibility they had.
And I don't mean credibility even in being non objective.
I mean credibility as being not morons. So yeah, I
guess that goes to the question, because I have maybe
more faith in America and media, who is the audience, Like,
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who is the person that is like, you know what
I've gotta I like, how is your brain so broken?
And clearly the audio everybody collapsing, I can tell you
who the audience is, everybody. And also I think part
of this is I've known how Tapper operates and CNN
and these people operate for fifteen years now, so I've
seen the maneuvering. This is meant to do, this is
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meant to be the Okay, we finally we've dealt with this.
Now we're back to being journalists everybody we had. But
that's not what's going on because they're not naming the
sources in the book. They're not naming who did the lying.
It's all Biden, who matters not one bit to anyone anymore. Okay,
nobody cares. So there's no price that's being paid by
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a single Democrat who you know isn't Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And we all know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Joe Biden is in a rough spot right now for
other reasons. I bet I would just say this. The
whole game was defeating Trump, was defeating Hitler. So if
they all have to go around and pretend the emperors
walking around with clothing on, that's what they did, they
hold I just I refuse to believe they didn't know.
I refuse to believe that they didn't know. Like I, Clay,
(13:31):
do you really think anybody with an IQ over eighty
didn't realize that Joe Biden was How's it? I think
I think a lot of people did. I think this
is sad, but I think they trusted Rachel Maddow. I
think they trusted Joe Scarborough and I just believe in
markets and if you're lied to long enough, I think
that the audience leaves, and actually the data is reflecting
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that that is occurring. Because I think they're upset because
they said they would defeat Trump. I think they're upset
because of what happened. Do you think any of them
would care at all, Clay, if if Biden had stayed
in and won, if they didn't have the debate, is
this conversation happening at all?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, I think that's that's why That's why I
would have brought Jake tapperon, because I would ask him
that question, would you have written this book if Biden
had won the election? And I think if you want
to have I leave this to you, If you want
to have a model, you'll come on. Because I think
Megan Kelly filayed him to such an extent. But I
so big picture. Fox News is now beating MSNBC and
(14:32):
CNN combined two to one.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Never occurred. It's never occurred.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Sixty six percent of television viewership is Fox News, thirty
three percent combined roughly is CNN and MSNBC. Now, maybe
part of that is people are upset because Kamala lost.
But I think a lot of people have realized they
were being lied to. Now here's the scary thing for
like Washington Post, they're actually entire business model. Now if
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Jeff Bez cared is to lie, because if they don't,
people cut subscriptions. I think these people want to be
lied to, and I think they knew they were being
lied to.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's what's so.
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there is a form of absolution that is being sought
by Jake Tapper to try and explain how.
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This could happen.
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And the argument seems to be, boy, the Biden team,
they were just such good wires, and I don't think
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
We told you about this horrific assassination that occurred last
night at the Jewish Museum in Washington, DC and a
young Jewish couple soon to be engaged, gunned down in
cold blood, and the assass in, the alleged murderer shouting free,
Free Palestine. So I think we all know exactly what
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was going on here. Notice the Trump administration not playing
the We may never know the real motive games that
the FBI or anything. We understand why this atrocity was committed.
We want to talk to our friend Yile Exstein. Now
she's a president and CEO of the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Yaiel, are the condolences from this audience
go out to the families of those killed in this horrible,
(19:30):
this horrible active of violence, and also our solidarity goes
out to our brothers and sisters in Israel. My understanding
is the Trump administration has immediately reached out and there's
already discussions between the two nations to express those condolences.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It is so comforting for all of us here in
Israel to hear the condolences, but even more than that,
maybe to feel the love and the prayers and the
support and the unity. You know, well, I think what
this killing represents is everything that the evil is trying
to destroy. It represents America and Israel. It represents Jews
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and Christians. It represents our shared values of striving for
life and brotherhood. They were actually going to get engaged
next week in Jerusalem, and they were both part of
groups that worked on helping Israelis and Arabs to work
together in the high tech sector and find common values.
And so to hear those words of condolences right away,
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to feel the prayers, to see the support that millions
of Americans are showing against this attack is something that
what I believe it is the silenced majority that's speaking loud.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, when I was over with you and the IFCJ
and Israel. I'm a nerd when it comes to newspapers.
I want to read all the newspapers that I can,
and so the English language newspapers that I was reading,
I was kind of amazed how how much coverage there
was of the college campus protests in Israel and how
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much that impacted people in Israel. To see that, to
see the videos, and obviously to be reading about it.
I don't know that this audience is as aware of
that coverage and how it impacts people in Israel. When
people at the University of Michigan or UCLA or Columbia
or whatever school my alma mater, George Washington University are protesting,
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but those kids are globalizing the intafada that is one
of the chants. Free free Pales nine is another one
of this chants. Isn't this, in your mind and in
the mind of many people in Israel a natural outgrowth
over what those kids were saying on those campuses.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Oh well, one hundred percent spot on. This is what
it means to globalize anti sada. I've lived in Israel
through antipadas where there are suicide bombers that are blowing
up buses and coffee shops every single day, when there
are even teenagers who are sent to stab random civilians
and Israel that's what them to sada is. And when
you say globalized Antifada, that this is exactly what it
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looks like on the streets of Washington, d c. Gunning
down to innocent people simply because they represented Israel. And
it's so important for you to bring up these college
protests because what they represent us here in Israel. I'm
the daughter in law and granddaughter of two Holocaust survivors.
All of my father in law and my grandfather's family
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were killed in the Holocaust, and we were raised on
these stories of how it started by looking at Jews
as different. By suddenly Jews aren't allowed to go and
study on certain college campuses. Suddenly they're not allowed to
enter certain areas. And so what those college protests represent
when we see Jews not able to get into certain
public areas of college campuses or to get into buildings
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on college campuses, that they're paying tuition and they should
be able to go there, but they can't because they're Jewish.
This is getting so much coverage in Israel because it's
so familiar. This isn't something that's new. Anti is the
oldest hatred. It's as old as the Jewish people. We
saw it with Amalik in the scriptures, we saw it
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with Wicked Hayman, we saw it with the Nazis. And
today we're seeing it not only with Islamic extremists, but
people who are educated. We see who are raised in Chicago.
This shooter today, somebody who had an education, who you
wouldn't profile as an Islamic extremist from Iraq or Afghanistan
or someone else. This is an American who did this.
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And you see that this hatred is seeping into American culture,
which for me is the most terrifying. You know, I
was just on the border with Syria where the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews provided food and medical aid
to Christians being persecuted in Syria. And what I see
is that this isn't isolated to the Jewish people, is
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not isolated to Israel. It's a hatred against God himself.
And that's why they're targeting Jews and Christians because actually,
from what I understand your own one of the victims
of the shooting today he actually identified as a Messianic
Jew he was half Christian. This is all of our wars,
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this is all of our darkness, this is all of
our threats. And I think the only answer is to
come together in love, to love one another, to help
one another, to stand in solidarity against this darkness. It's
the only way to stab us.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Kile.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We know, and we've talked about it here many times
on the show that unfortunately the Democrat Party is far
too tolerant of the intolerance and the anti Semitism that
exists as a portion. I'm not I have Jewish friends
who vote Democrat. I understand this is not the entire
Democrat Party base, but there is a portion of the
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Democrat Party that is truly anti Semitic, and the party,
I would argue overall, is far too tolerant of that.
Do you see thatanging at all as things as incidents
like this happened. Do you see Democrat leadership starting to
speak with more moral clarity or do you think that
they are unfortunately held hostage by the anti Semitic anti
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Semitic members in their midst.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It was so incredible and comforting to see the President
of America, President Trump, immediately call out this attack as
anti semitism and call it wrong. This is something that
should be the basis for anyone. I saw some people
from the Senate, from the American government, representing America, who
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avoided questions on if this was wrong, if this was bad,
if this is anti Semitic. To have the President of
America stand up and quickly denounce what happened and say
that he stands with the Jewish community and recognizes that
this is anti Semitism in its most evil form. It's
something that's so and unfortunately we're not seeing enough of
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What's terrifying to me is that we're seeing this hatred
against Jews pop up everywhere. You see it on the right,
you see it on the left. But what's so encouraging
to me is that in facing this hatred that no
longer disguises itself, no longer pretends to be tolerant, calls
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out hating Jews, hating Christians. I think that we've seen
the silenced majority speak up louder than ever. I see
this in my work with the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews. We have more people writing to us, donating,
taking an active stand in face of this hatred, both
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on the right and the left to say that doesn't
represent me. I stand for these Judeo Christian values that
we need to stand unified with. I stand with God,
I stand with God's word. I stand with God's people.
And if, oh if Jews, then Christians are separated. If
we're able to let hatred and division win, we are
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both facing the same state. We're both facing the same darkness.
And so I think we have to stand up against
hatred on the right on the left, and we have
to do exactly what President Trump did today, which is
call evil evil, called darkness darkness, and learn from the
warning of Isaiah from thousands of years ago, and he said,
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at the end of day's light will be called dark
and good will be called bad, and we have to
be careful for that. What we thought today from President
Trump was him calling bad bad, calling darkness darkness. And
it's something we all have to learn from and not
be afraid to say out loud.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
There are many things that people say about President Trump
that are certainly untrue. You're talking to us from Israel
right now. Israel, if it were a United State and
able to vote in the presidential election, would have voted
massively for Donald trum similar to the margins based on
the data that I've seen that West Virginia or Wyoming
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did among the trumpiest of Trump states. What do people
in Israel think when Trump is called Hitler?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, I think we all know in Israel's firsthand what
Hitler did. He built concentration camps, He burned bodies in
the mass. My daughter just got back from Poland where
she was walking through Auschwitz where her grandfather's family were burned,
his siblings, his grandparents, six million Jews that were murdered
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in the Holocaust. For the Holocaust, the global Jewish population
was around twenty six million Jews. Still today we haven't
reached that number. We still haven't reached the numbers of
Jews around the world as there was before the Holocaust.
And so I think to call any democratic leader today
that isn't targeting and killing and setting up concentration camp
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Stephen you as their name and the same sentence as
Hitler is not only offensive, it's dangerous because if we
don't learn from the mistakes of the past, they are
maybe inevitably going to repeat themselves, God forbid. And that's
what we're seeing today when people are standing up for Hamas,
standing up for terrorists, trying to trying to support the
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yemen Huti terrorists who call death for Israel, death for
America as their slogan. And you see across America that
there are students that are supporting and calling heroes the
terrorists that want to destroy them. It's something that we
haven't learned from history. And then God forbid, it could
repeat itself. And so across the Middle East, you know,
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in Islamic Muslim countries that are more moderate, like Egypt
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Morocco, it is illegal
to waive a Palestinian flag because that Pealsdonian flag doesn't
represent a Palestinian people, it represents Hamas, it represents the
terror body that's leading them right now. And so across
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the moderate Muslim world, you're not allowed to have a
preacher of Imam a mosque that's praising Samas or the
Palestinian leadership. You'll literally go to jail. And so what
happened they all less use moderate Islamic countries and went
to America and set up their mosques in America and
are doing their rallies with their Palestinian flags praising Hamas
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in America, and it's not only staying now with the
Islamic extremists, it's actually infiltrating into the brains and lives
and icy actions of young Americans, young Americans that are
now standing in solidarity with terrorists. If we don't wake
up immediately in the West, that will take over everyone
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who now thinks that we don't need to give it
any attention and we don't need to take a stand.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I think this is important as we go away, and
thank you for calling in from Israel. There aren't very
many countries in the Middle East where a gay or
a transperson could live with freedom. Israel is in fact
the only one. And so when you hear people on
the left somehow siding with Hamas or the idea of
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anti Israel, it really is a cognitive dissonance that's even
difficult to comprehend. I really wish people could come visit
and see. But yeah, I think that's important, and thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Thank you so much. And I think it's so important
to remember that the Palestinian people are being oppressed and
held hostage by Hamas, which is a terror group where
women have to wear he jobs there's no freedom. There's
no freedom to vote. There hasn't been elections and over
ten years, there's no right for people to voice any
(31:56):
criticism of the government. And if they have anything against
the person, they could just kill them without any sort
of trial or any sort of legal document. And so
when we have terror groups that are ruling the Palestinian people,
I think when we say free Gaza, they're missing two
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words from Hamas. The sooner this terror group goes, the
sooner the Palestinian people will be able to be free.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Thank you, yell Exstein from Israel giving us the latest
from there and also reacting to the awful event in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Thank you so much.
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last night like Buck was. We'll have some fun with
this in the third hour. You finally have gotten back.
The Knicks haven't been winning twenty five years. Basically, when
you were a kid, they were good. They're up comfortably.
I'm gonna be honest with you. I turned off my television.
(34:21):
I was watching the game a little bit. I said, man,
Nick's are up twelve points two and a half minutes ago,
whatever the heck it was. I was like, this game's over.
I went to go read my British spy collection books,
The Slow House, which I love. Mickhern is the author
of these books. If you like spy books, I can't
put these down. Their Paige Schurtners, I know. I think
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they made a television show about it on Amazon. I've
never watched the television show. I love the books. I mean,
they are so good. So I was like, well, this
game's over. I'm gonna put this down, go ahead and
start getting ready for bed. Didn't even look back at
my phone until I got the notification about the serious
incident in DC, and I then went in and I
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saw your tweet.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The Knicks blew a lead.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
On an epic level that almost has never happened before
in the playoffs. I think, Clay, you could have put
five of me out there with my bad knee and
I would have held the lead that they had.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, it should have been over. It was a
gut punch.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But I do give the Knicks credit for consistency, because
I can't think of another sports franchise that, for so
many decades has been so consistent in finding the best
possible moment to disappoint you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's really an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
As a Knicks ben, you know, just when you think,
just when you think they may break out and come
through for you.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But really, I think this is your fall. Clay. I
had to.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Watch my beloved Nicks just have a gut punch of
a night. You get me all emotionally invested in this game,
and last night I just couldn't believe it. It was
the most shocking thing I've seen on TV since the
red wedding of Game of Throne. Here's a stat for
before that game last night. Congratulations to the Pacers. Teams
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leading by nine points or more with one minute left
were fourteen hundred and thirty four and oh in NBA
playoff games, fourteen hundred and thirty four and oh, that
was a super difficult to collapse. We'll have some fun
with that and we'll roll through all the big news
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stories out there coming up.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Third hour of the program.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Thanks for hanging with US Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton
on the front lines of truth.
All right, second hour of Clay and Bock kicks off now,
and we have the continued Biden cover up going on.
We all know that we've been told some very interesting
things about the inner circle of Joe Biden and how
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they were hiding. They were hiding Biden put simply, And
what's interesting about this is we knew that because we
said it over and over again every single day. And
yet it reminds me a bit about how we knew
that the lockdowns and school closures during COVID were completely
(00:42):
unnecessary and horrifically stupid. And we said it every single day,
every single day. But you know, somehow it didn't. It
didn't register with the other side. It didn't really make sense.
But okay, so now we have the book that has
come out. I thought this was the case, was going
to be the case all along, this book Original Sin,
(01:06):
which is now being told it's sold out. I was
buying copies. I'm not buying a.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Copy Clay Clay.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I may buy a Clay, damn it. I just I
want to read it because I want to know if
there is I want to be able to speak on
it as as in depth as I possibly can. I
would but I respect that you don't want to read
(01:34):
it and don't want to pay a dark haired copy
from you in DC. Okay, Laura was very unhappy that
I said I was going to buy it. She was
very angry about it, my wife, you know. But I
have not bought it yet, but I'm going to be
in a I've got a car ride up to the
ND five hundred this weekend, and uh, I figure maybe
(01:55):
I can read along for for part of that ride.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I need a new book.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, Well, so sorry, I apologized everyone for forsaking, for forsaking, notwithstanding, notwithstanding,
I do not recomen you, bibe. But here's here's what
I think is so interesting going on right now. Uh,
it's exactly as we thought, just you know everything, We
see all this coming, and they still do it, they
still say it. So I think there's something to that,
right And one of the realities is they're going with
(02:23):
the Oh my gosh, Biden was just so cagey and
we're just so dumb that we couldn't figure out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What all of the rest of you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Publicly, you know, it's one thing to say we knew,
but we were quiet about it. We were talking about
this every day. This was a sky is blue phenomenon.
You know, we're saying, hey, guys, a sky is blue,
and then you know, months and months and months of
Biden and then sure enough they're like, wait a second,
are you saying that we know what color the sky is?
(02:54):
These people are shameless, and the most shameless of all
may in fact be well, I don't know, Tapper or Scarborough.
This was an op. This was an information operation. This
was propaganda. This was an active choice made to just
pretend like nothing was going on here. Right, we were
(03:16):
talking to them, We knew they could hear us, but
they just gave us the silent treatment on this. Right,
that's what was going on. And Tapper goes on Scarborough's
show with I need you to hear this because Clay,
I'm almost impressed with the hootspa. I'm almost impressed with
the uh wow, the gall to try this one on
(03:39):
for size for everybody. And it is that there was
a special campaign from the White House, just a fool,
good old Joe Scarborough play eight.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Our reporting indicates that Joe Biden, who as you know,
is a frequent viewer of the show, saw when David
Ignatius wrote that column and I think August twenty twenty
three say that Joe Biden should not run for reelection
because of what he had been hearing, right, And he
came on this show and you guys had a robust
conversation about this.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You largely agreed that you had been hearing.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Things about this, but that there was really no alternative
that Kamala Harris was not up to the job. That's
what Democrats were telling you. Behind the scenes, Joe Biden
saw that. Joe Biden said to staffers that he wanted
to convince you that you were wrong, and he focused
on you like you were a constituency, like you were
farmers in Iowa, like you were the Kawanas Club in
(04:30):
New Hampshire, and he made sure that you thought differently.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Clay, Clay, come on, now, this to me seems very clear.
This is he's got Tapper is going around like the
Pope of liberalism and giving people absolution. Like do you
know Joe that there was a special you who said
the dumbest thing maybe ever spoken on cable news, which
you and I know, Clay, that is something right, maybe
(04:57):
the dumbest thing ever said. Oh, but the House was
running a campaign to fool you. Yeah, this ties in.
First of all, I don't think that if that were true,
the campaign would even need to be that effective, because
Joe Scarborough wanted to say that Biden was perfectly fine,
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so he was predisposed to buy into all of this
clap trap. But I think it's much bigger, and I
think this is important. Yesterday the Washington Post and I'm
looking at it right now, had an editorial up.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Did you see this?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
If Biden was too frail for his job, voters should
have been informed. This is the Washington Post editorial board.
Take gee, who might have a job that is designed
to tell voters what people in positions of power might
need to know that those in positions of power might
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not want them to know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The free press. It's the litter, the only reason they exist. Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But this is important, and I think it's so important,
and I think many people still haven't gotten haven't realized it.
This isn't a flaw. It's the system that has been designed.
And in particular, I've made this argument before. I don't
think a lot of people have realized it. Back in
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the day when the Washington Post took down Richard Nixon
over Watergate and when they frankly tried to take down
Bill Clinton over Monica Lewinsky. Do you know how they
made money advertising? The more people who bought their newspaper
and saw the ads, the higher the circulation, the more
(06:43):
money they made. And so there wasn't an incentive to
try to do the biggest, boldest, brashest, maybe sometimes riskiest
Pentagon Papers story because more people then paid attention to
your newspaper a little bit of money, Eric Clay because
the Drudge Report came to national prominence, because it was
(07:03):
the Drudge Report, not the Washington Post that broke the
Monica story. Because the Beltway press was defending Clinton because
they've always been playing political games like this. But I
can tell you reading the Clinton coverage they went after
him pretty hard. And but regardless, the story is advertising.
(07:29):
What I believe has not been talked about enough for
the New York Times and for the Washington Post. Subscription
models digitally, which is basically what these businesses are, are
no longer in the business of actually telling people news
and aggregating the biggest possible audience. They're now in the
(07:50):
business of serving fans and what New York Times subscribers
and Washington Post subscribers are like fan base is that
subscribe to online sports message boards. They never break negative
news because they were play. Yeah, this is true, Clay.
I would also add though, that the whole business of
(08:11):
news as everyone's carrying around essentially a what would have
been a supercomputer like thirty years ago, it's completely changed, right,
I mean, what did CNN give you that you couldn't
get before? In the nineties you could turn on news, right,
it wasn't really an option. And now we've got we've got,
you know, countless websites, We've got Twitter, we've got citizen journalists,
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you know. So the having information flow is no longer
the value proposition. Certainly that it was in the Watergate era,
but even than it was I think in the nineties.
Added to what you're talking about, which is the balkanization
of audience and the fan fiction stuff is how we've
gotten that. I mean, the New York Times editorial board
is insane. I mean, these people live in an alternate universe.
And Jake Tapper coming forward now, Clay, it's like there's
(08:58):
a revelation and he shared this with all of us,
as if we didn't know the part of this that
he and his buddies are skipping over is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
We all knew. We said it every day, right.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
This is not the revelation. But this is also where
a lot of those people have no idea what we
say on the program. And this goes to the Balkanization.
This is why I asked you. I think it was
Yesterdayier did a Laura Trump though they clay they were
there were efforts to try to get this to cross over,
and people like Tapper shut it down. Oh I agree.
(09:32):
What I'm saying is they will. And this is what
this is what I spend a huge amount of my
time thinking about. Now I'm on the media nerd side.
When you really look at the Balkanization. We know every
one of you watching and or listening to us right now.
We told you yesterday as soon as Trump had that
(09:53):
Oval office event, we knew exactly what the New York
Times would say about it. We knew what CNN would
say about it. We told you before they even said it.
We are aware on this program, and most of you
are too. You are steeped in the arguments of the left.
You consider what they say, and you adjust your arguments
(10:17):
to make better arguments. As a result, they have no
idea what we say. Whatever percentage of the audience that
has died in the wall MSNBC fan that is, if
the extent Jake Tapper has fans, those people are not
subject to most of the arguments that we make here
every day. Now, there's a ton of you out there
(10:40):
listening to us right now who found us partly because
of new media, because you saw a video get shared.
This is why I don't mind getting attacked, because when
you get attacked by the left, it actually exposes your
arguments to the left. And maybe seventy five percent of
people are like, that guy's a moron, I hate him.
(11:00):
Twenty five percent are like, oh, that's an interesting argument.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It gets into the question of how many people are persuadable.
And this is why I was asking a question. If
you were a rational, reasonable adult, capable of logic and contemplation,
if you had been watching MSNBC and only reading the
New York Times, you might have bought into the idea
(11:24):
that Joe Biden was not mentally and physically deficient. Everybody
listening to this program is known in for.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Years, right.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't think anyone really bought it. That's my whole
I think this is another the whole thing's another off.
I think everybody knew. I think everybody was aware, and
now I think everybody was pretending they weren't aware because
of the implications of what that would be. I think
the audience was aware that the argument made a sister call.
We did not get a single call from a Democrat
being like I was fooled. You know, we asked for
it yesterday. Now maybe that's just because this is our show.
(11:53):
We don't have a ton of left wing lunatics listening.
But I don't think anybody was fooled by this.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
In Clay.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Here's also why I think this isn't the This isn't
coming clean. This is clean up, okay, this is this
is an op from Tapper and the whole rest of
the bunch, because they've completely lit their whatever credibility they had.
And I don't mean credibility even in being non objective.
I mean credibility as being not morons. So yeah, I
guess that goes to the question, because I have maybe
more faith in America and media, who is the audience, Like,
(12:22):
who is the person that is like, you know what
I've gotta I like, how is your brain so broken?
And clearly the audio everybody collapsing, I can tell you
who the audience is, everybody. And also I think part
of this is I've known how Tapper operates and CNN
and these people operate for fifteen years now, so I've
seen the maneuvering. This is meant to do, this is
(12:44):
meant to be the Okay, we finally we've dealt with this.
Now we're back to being journalists everybody we had. But
that's not what's going on because they're not naming the
sources in the book. They're not naming who did the lying.
It's all Biden, who matters not one bit to anyone anymore. Okay,
nobody cares. So there's no price that's being paid by
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a single Democrat who you know isn't Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And we all know.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Joe Biden is in a rough spot right now for
other reasons. I bet I would just say this. The
whole game was defeating Trump, was defeating Hitler. So if
they all have to go around and pretend the emperors
walking around with clothing on, that's what they did, they
hold I just I refuse to believe they didn't know.
I refuse to believe that they didn't know. Like I, Clay,
(13:31):
do you really think anybody with an IQ over eighty
didn't realize that Joe Biden was How's it? I think
I think a lot of people did. I think this
is sad, but I think they trusted Rachel Maddow. I
think they trusted Joe Scarborough and I just believe in
markets and if you're lied to long enough, I think
that the audience leaves, and actually the data is reflecting
(13:54):
that that is occurring. Because I think they're upset because
they said they would defeat Trump. I think they're upset
because of what happened. Do you think any of them
would care at all, Clay, if if Biden had stayed
in and won, if they didn't have the debate, is
this conversation happening at all?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, I think that's that's why That's why I
would have brought Jake tapperon, because I would ask him
that question, would you have written this book if Biden
had won the election? And I think if you want
to have I leave this to you, If you want
to have a model, you'll come on. Because I think
Megan Kelly filayed him to such an extent. But I
so big picture. Fox News is now beating MSNBC and
(14:32):
CNN combined two to one.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Never occurred. It's never occurred.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Sixty six percent of television viewership is Fox News, thirty
three percent combined roughly is CNN and MSNBC. Now, maybe
part of that is people are upset because Kamala lost.
But I think a lot of people have realized they
were being lied to. Now here's the scary thing for
like Washington Post, they're actually entire business model. Now if
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Jeff Bez cared is to lie, because if they don't,
people cut subscriptions. I think these people want to be
lied to, and I think they knew they were being
lied to.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's what's so.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You know, at some level in a cult, man, this
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It's truly never occurred before, and I think that kind
of speaks to the panics setting in. And you're right, Buck,
there is a form of absolution that is being sought
by Jake Tapper to try and explain how.
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This could happen.
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And the argument seems to be, boy, the Biden team,
they were just such good wires, and I don't think
anyone actually buys that the whole point of this Tapper
tour other than he's making a lot of money on
the book, so he gets marketing. He understands that is
so that in six months, Joe Scarborough, anyone ever attacks
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We told you about this horrific assassination that occurred last
night at the Jewish Museum in Washington, DC and a
young Jewish couple soon to be engaged, gunned down in
cold blood, and the assass in, the alleged murderer shouting free,
Free Palestine. So I think we all know exactly what
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was going on here. Notice the Trump administration not playing
the We may never know the real motive games that
the FBI or anything. We understand why this atrocity was committed.
We want to talk to our friend Yile Exstein. Now
she's a president and CEO of the International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Yaiel, are the condolences from this audience
go out to the families of those killed in this horrible,
(19:30):
this horrible active of violence, and also our solidarity goes
out to our brothers and sisters in Israel. My understanding
is the Trump administration has immediately reached out and there's
already discussions between the two nations to express those condolences.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It is so comforting for all of us here in
Israel to hear the condolences, but even more than that,
maybe to feel the love and the prayers and the
support and the unity. You know, well, I think what
this killing represents is everything that the evil is trying
to destroy. It represents America and Israel. It represents Jews
(20:10):
and Christians. It represents our shared values of striving for
life and brotherhood. They were actually going to get engaged
next week in Jerusalem, and they were both part of
groups that worked on helping Israelis and Arabs to work
together in the high tech sector and find common values.
And so to hear those words of condolences right away,
(20:32):
to feel the prayers, to see the support that millions
of Americans are showing against this attack is something that
what I believe it is the silenced majority that's speaking loud.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, when I was over with you and the IFCJ
and Israel. I'm a nerd when it comes to newspapers.
I want to read all the newspapers that I can,
and so the English language newspapers that I was reading,
I was kind of amazed how how much coverage there
was of the college campus protests in Israel and how
(21:06):
much that impacted people in Israel. To see that, to
see the videos, and obviously to be reading about it.
I don't know that this audience is as aware of
that coverage and how it impacts people in Israel. When
people at the University of Michigan or UCLA or Columbia
or whatever school my alma mater, George Washington University are protesting,
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but those kids are globalizing the intafada that is one
of the chants. Free free Pales nine is another one
of this chants. Isn't this, in your mind and in
the mind of many people in Israel a natural outgrowth
over what those kids were saying on those campuses.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Oh well, one hundred percent spot on. This is what
it means to globalize anti sada. I've lived in Israel
through antipadas where there are suicide bombers that are blowing
up buses and coffee shops every single day, when there
are even teenagers who are sent to stab random civilians
and Israel that's what them to sada is. And when
you say globalized Antifada, that this is exactly what it
(22:03):
looks like on the streets of Washington, d c. Gunning
down to innocent people simply because they represented Israel. And
it's so important for you to bring up these college
protests because what they represent us here in Israel. I'm
the daughter in law and granddaughter of two Holocaust survivors.
All of my father in law and my grandfather's family
(22:24):
were killed in the Holocaust, and we were raised on
these stories of how it started by looking at Jews
as different. By suddenly Jews aren't allowed to go and
study on certain college campuses. Suddenly they're not allowed to
enter certain areas. And so what those college protests represent
when we see Jews not able to get into certain
public areas of college campuses or to get into buildings
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on college campuses, that they're paying tuition and they should
be able to go there, but they can't because they're Jewish.
This is getting so much coverage in Israel because it's
so familiar. This isn't something that's new. Anti is the
oldest hatred. It's as old as the Jewish people. We
saw it with Amalik in the scriptures, we saw it
(23:08):
with Wicked Hayman, we saw it with the Nazis. And
today we're seeing it not only with Islamic extremists, but
people who are educated. We see who are raised in Chicago.
This shooter today, somebody who had an education, who you
wouldn't profile as an Islamic extremist from Iraq or Afghanistan
or someone else. This is an American who did this.
(23:30):
And you see that this hatred is seeping into American culture,
which for me is the most terrifying. You know, I
was just on the border with Syria where the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews provided food and medical aid
to Christians being persecuted in Syria. And what I see
is that this isn't isolated to the Jewish people, is
(23:51):
not isolated to Israel. It's a hatred against God himself.
And that's why they're targeting Jews and Christians because actually,
from what I understand your own one of the victims
of the shooting today he actually identified as a Messianic
Jew he was half Christian. This is all of our wars,
(24:12):
this is all of our darkness, this is all of
our threats. And I think the only answer is to
come together in love, to love one another, to help
one another, to stand in solidarity against this darkness. It's
the only way to stab us.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Kile.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We know, and we've talked about it here many times
on the show that unfortunately the Democrat Party is far
too tolerant of the intolerance and the anti Semitism that
exists as a portion. I'm not I have Jewish friends
who vote Democrat. I understand this is not the entire
Democrat Party base, but there is a portion of the
(24:50):
Democrat Party that is truly anti Semitic, and the party,
I would argue overall, is far too tolerant of that.
Do you see thatanging at all as things as incidents
like this happened. Do you see Democrat leadership starting to
speak with more moral clarity or do you think that
they are unfortunately held hostage by the anti Semitic anti
(25:15):
Semitic members in their midst.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
It was so incredible and comforting to see the President
of America, President Trump, immediately call out this attack as
anti semitism and call it wrong. This is something that
should be the basis for anyone. I saw some people
from the Senate, from the American government, representing America, who
(25:40):
avoided questions on if this was wrong, if this was bad,
if this is anti Semitic. To have the President of
America stand up and quickly denounce what happened and say
that he stands with the Jewish community and recognizes that
this is anti Semitism in its most evil form. It's
something that's so and unfortunately we're not seeing enough of
(26:02):
What's terrifying to me is that we're seeing this hatred
against Jews pop up everywhere. You see it on the right,
you see it on the left. But what's so encouraging
to me is that in facing this hatred that no
longer disguises itself, no longer pretends to be tolerant, calls
(26:25):
out hating Jews, hating Christians. I think that we've seen
the silenced majority speak up louder than ever. I see
this in my work with the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews. We have more people writing to us, donating,
taking an active stand in face of this hatred, both
(26:45):
on the right and the left to say that doesn't
represent me. I stand for these Judeo Christian values that
we need to stand unified with. I stand with God,
I stand with God's word. I stand with God's people.
And if, oh if Jews, then Christians are separated. If
we're able to let hatred and division win, we are
(27:07):
both facing the same state. We're both facing the same darkness.
And so I think we have to stand up against
hatred on the right on the left, and we have
to do exactly what President Trump did today, which is
call evil evil, called darkness darkness, and learn from the
warning of Isaiah from thousands of years ago, and he said,
(27:27):
at the end of day's light will be called dark
and good will be called bad, and we have to
be careful for that. What we thought today from President
Trump was him calling bad bad, calling darkness darkness. And
it's something we all have to learn from and not
be afraid to say out loud.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
There are many things that people say about President Trump
that are certainly untrue. You're talking to us from Israel
right now. Israel, if it were a United State and
able to vote in the presidential election, would have voted
massively for Donald trum similar to the margins based on
the data that I've seen that West Virginia or Wyoming
(28:05):
did among the trumpiest of Trump states. What do people
in Israel think when Trump is called Hitler?
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, I think we all know in Israel's firsthand what
Hitler did. He built concentration camps, He burned bodies in
the mass. My daughter just got back from Poland where
she was walking through Auschwitz where her grandfather's family were burned,
his siblings, his grandparents, six million Jews that were murdered
(28:36):
in the Holocaust. For the Holocaust, the global Jewish population
was around twenty six million Jews. Still today we haven't
reached that number. We still haven't reached the numbers of
Jews around the world as there was before the Holocaust.
And so I think to call any democratic leader today
that isn't targeting and killing and setting up concentration camp
(29:00):
Stephen you as their name and the same sentence as
Hitler is not only offensive, it's dangerous because if we
don't learn from the mistakes of the past, they are
maybe inevitably going to repeat themselves, God forbid. And that's
what we're seeing today when people are standing up for Hamas,
standing up for terrorists, trying to trying to support the
(29:24):
yemen Huti terrorists who call death for Israel, death for
America as their slogan. And you see across America that
there are students that are supporting and calling heroes the
terrorists that want to destroy them. It's something that we
haven't learned from history. And then God forbid, it could
repeat itself. And so across the Middle East, you know,
(29:48):
in Islamic Muslim countries that are more moderate, like Egypt
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Morocco, it is illegal
to waive a Palestinian flag because that Pealsdonian flag doesn't
represent a Palestinian people, it represents Hamas, it represents the
terror body that's leading them right now. And so across
(30:09):
the moderate Muslim world, you're not allowed to have a
preacher of Imam a mosque that's praising Samas or the
Palestinian leadership. You'll literally go to jail. And so what
happened they all less use moderate Islamic countries and went
to America and set up their mosques in America and
are doing their rallies with their Palestinian flags praising Hamas
(30:31):
in America, and it's not only staying now with the
Islamic extremists, it's actually infiltrating into the brains and lives
and icy actions of young Americans, young Americans that are
now standing in solidarity with terrorists. If we don't wake
up immediately in the West, that will take over everyone
(30:55):
who now thinks that we don't need to give it
any attention and we don't need to take a stand.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I think this is important as we go away, and
thank you for calling in from Israel. There aren't very
many countries in the Middle East where a gay or
a transperson could live with freedom. Israel is in fact
the only one. And so when you hear people on
the left somehow siding with Hamas or the idea of
(31:24):
anti Israel, it really is a cognitive dissonance that's even
difficult to comprehend. I really wish people could come visit
and see. But yeah, I think that's important, and thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Thank you so much. And I think it's so important
to remember that the Palestinian people are being oppressed and
held hostage by Hamas, which is a terror group where
women have to wear he jobs there's no freedom. There's
no freedom to vote. There hasn't been elections and over
ten years, there's no right for people to voice any
(31:56):
criticism of the government. And if they have anything against
the person, they could just kill them without any sort
of trial or any sort of legal document. And so
when we have terror groups that are ruling the Palestinian people,
I think when we say free Gaza, they're missing two
(32:16):
words from Hamas. The sooner this terror group goes, the
sooner the Palestinian people will be able to be free.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Thank you, yell Exstein from Israel giving us the latest
from there and also reacting to the awful event in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
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coffee dot com use codebook. Maybe you were up late
last night like Buck was. We'll have some fun with
this in the third hour. You finally have gotten back.
The Knicks haven't been winning twenty five years. Basically, when
you were a kid, they were good. They're up comfortably.
I'm gonna be honest with you. I turned off my television.
(34:21):
I was watching the game a little bit. I said, man,
Nick's are up twelve points two and a half minutes ago,
whatever the heck it was. I was like, this game's over.
I went to go read my British spy collection books,
The Slow House, which I love. Mickhern is the author
of these books. If you like spy books, I can't
put these down. Their Paige Schurtners, I know. I think
(34:41):
they made a television show about it on Amazon. I've
never watched the television show. I love the books. I mean,
they are so good. So I was like, well, this
game's over. I'm gonna put this down, go ahead and
start getting ready for bed. Didn't even look back at
my phone until I got the notification about the serious
incident in DC, and I then went in and I
(35:01):
saw your tweet.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The Knicks blew a lead.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
On an epic level that almost has never happened before
in the playoffs. I think, Clay, you could have put
five of me out there with my bad knee and
I would have held the lead that they had.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean, it should have been over. It was a
gut punch.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
But I do give the Knicks credit for consistency, because
I can't think of another sports franchise that, for so
many decades has been so consistent in finding the best
possible moment to disappoint you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
It's really an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
As a Knicks ben, you know, just when you think,
just when you think they may break out and come
through for you.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But really, I think this is your fall. Clay. I
had to.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Watch my beloved Nicks just have a gut punch of
a night. You get me all emotionally invested in this game,
and last night I just couldn't believe it. It was
the most shocking thing I've seen on TV since the
red wedding of Game of Throne. Here's a stat for
before that game last night. Congratulations to the Pacers. Teams
(36:05):
leading by nine points or more with one minute left
were fourteen hundred and thirty four and oh in NBA
playoff games, fourteen hundred and thirty four and oh, that
was a super difficult to collapse. We'll have some fun
with that and we'll roll through all the big news
(36:26):
stories out there coming up.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Third hour of the program.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
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