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March 19, 2025 36 mins

In Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck dive into a variety of engaging topics, starting with a lighthearted debate about cobbler versus pie, sparked by a humorous disagreement between Clay and his wife. The conversation then transitions to the NCAA tournament, with Clay sharing his excitement and strategies for filling out his bracket, while Buck teases him about potential overconfidence. The hosts also discuss a viral clip of Alec Baldwin and his wife Hilaria, highlighting the bizarre nature of her adopted Spanish accent and the dynamics of their public interactions. This leads to a broader discussion about relationships and red flags, with Buck offering insights from his single days in New York City. A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to analyzing the political leanings of college-educated white women, who are notably divergent from other demographic groups in their strong opposition to Donald Trump and support for progressive causes. Clay and Buck explore the social and cultural factors contributing to this trend, including the influence of social media and the emphasis on empathy and social justice. They invite female callers to share their perspectives, resulting in a lively and insightful discussion about gender, education, and political identity.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Buck, I got some
sad news start off our number three. It appears that
I'm going to have to divorce Laura Travis because when
I just went downstairs, she said, and I quote, I
think Buck's right as well as that caller Cobbler is
probably just a poor man's pie. And do you think

(00:25):
you know someone been married years? Amazing? And I go
downstairs just to try to get my NCAA tournament bracket.
I'm just sitting there filling it out, minding my own business.
Laura Travis walks in to the kitchen and says that
Cobbler's a poor man's pie. So again, it's gonna be sad. Divorce,

(00:46):
I'm told is awful, But sometimes you have to stand
up for things like pie. I tell you, the foundation
of a great relationship is speaking the truth when your
partner needs to hear it, even if it stings a
little sometimes. So Lara's just do you a favor on
this Cobbler issue. And I'm glad that everyone else out
there knows the truth, which is that Cobbler is just

(01:06):
poor man's pie. That's okay. So that's that doesn't mean
it doesn't taste good. I'm not saying it doesn't taste good.
It's just we got to have this is not nom
there are rules, you know. We've got to have a
ranking of things. I am going to continue to fight
for Cobbler to the end of my existence, and all
of the calumnies, all of the outrageous assaults in Shakespearean terms,

(01:28):
the slings and arrows of derision will not stand. And
I am going to continue to fight the good fight.
And I'm filling out my NCAA tournament bracket. By the way,
as we are simultaneously continuing it. Have you scoped out
my bracket at all? Like are you feeling? I didn't
want it to be fair. I didn't want to be influenced.
And see, oh, but choices buck made I can score

(01:48):
by going opposite directions. I am one hundred percent only
making choices based on looking at this. I just wanted
to know and get you on the record now if
you were while overconfident based upon my bracket. I wanted
us to get that out right now so that if
by some miracle I actually win this thing, we will
get we will get to make even more fun of

(02:10):
you at the end of this process. That's what I mean.
I think the great thing about the bracket as again,
the NC DOUBLEA Tournament tips off tomorrow, and I'm going
to apologize for myself in advance because I will probably
screw up a ton of things because I will be
doing this show and simultaneously watching college basketball on both
Thursday and Friday, so I will not so I will
keep I will keep us on the on the tracks,

(02:32):
don't worry. So if I'm totally blowing it even more
so than normal tomorrow, it's going to because I'm trying
to keep my eyes on this. The great thing about
the NC DOUBLEA Tournament is, and many of you out
there who are part of bracket challenges will be able
to attest to this is very often the people who
win these bracket challenges are not in any way actually

(02:52):
paying attention to college basketball at all on a regular basis,
which is what makes it in some ways even more
fun because there isn't necessarily a high correlation between college
basketball experts who are gonna post I mean, legitimately, all
they do is cover college basketball for ESPN or Fox

(03:13):
or CBS or NBC or whoever it is sports companies
out there, you can beat them without having spent hardly
any time at all on it. So I do think
that that is really pretty incredible. And one of the
fun things about the bracket challenge in general is Clay
hedging a little bit. Here is this a little hedging?
I notice on the frack? Have you picked the team

(03:34):
the team that you think is gone?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I know?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
And your your your wife, who I hope has the
good enough sense to like Cobbler more than pie because
she was raised in the South. And have you asked Carrie?
We may have a real uh split opinion here in couples, Clay,
I think you know this very clearly or without even
asking my gator loving wife. Of course, I have to

(03:58):
go with Florida to win the whole thing because I
want to stay married. Oh well, picked Florida too, So
maybe I need to change for our bracket challenge because
the challenge on this is if we both picked the
same team. The way this works is it could come
down to like who wins a Sweet sixteen matchup before
all is said and done. So I do think that
we're talking about wives. We got to play this Alec

(04:20):
Baldwin clip so you shared with me last night. If
you guys have not seen this, so this is one
of the great untold stories. Producer, Ali, if she's in there,
can you pull up your mic. I want to get
your take because they live in New York City. So
Alec Baldwin, I don't know. This is like wife number
three or four for him and they have I think

(04:40):
it's like seven kids and they have a reality television show.
So he married this girl. Hillary Hillary grew up I
believe in like New Jersey, right, Massachusetts, Massachusetts? Okay, Hillary
grew up. Hillary grew up in Massachusetts. She has just
decided that she is actually going to be called Hilaria

(05:03):
and that she is Spanish, and she has just started
speaking with a Spanish accent. This happens all the time,
and it says if no one is going to point out,
I mean, this is like houly crazy chick. Ali, am
I wrong on this? That she is? She has grown up?
You're from Massachusetts. To my knowledge, you have never come

(05:24):
on this show and started talking like you're Spanish, and
you haven't changed your name to a Spanish variation of Alice.
What is going on? Here, Am I crazy? Or is
this chick crazy even by crazy chick standards?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Well, first of all, it's not a new thing. This
has been She's been doing this for a while, so
it's not new. And I think she met someone, she
married someone, and just wanted to create an identity for
herself and that's what this was.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
But you can't pretend that you are European, like out
of nowhere and start changing your name and speaking with
an accent when you grew up in Massa. Like if
I think all the differences, she got called on it. Okay,
But because she's a public figure, if tomorrow I came
on the show and I just started talking with a
Cuban accent and I suddenly claimed that I had some

(06:13):
sort of Cuban ancestry and that was why I had
to be called, you know, Ricardo now instead of Richard
Clay Travis, and you would, reg all of you out
there listening, would be like, yeah, this is super weird.
I think Clay may have gone.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Crazy changed her accent when she moved to Europe.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, but yeah, that's weird. I agree, But this is
just a normal girl from Massachusetts. Mary's Alec Baldwin here's
the question. You guys, I bet have seen and heard
this clip. They're doing some sort of red carpet walk
and you need to watch it. But this is what
it sounded like. And I can't believe it, but I
actually felt sorry for Alec Baldwin. And and I actually

(06:57):
wonder whether Alec Baldwin, as he stares in the camera,
you can like see his soul escaping. Every man who
has been married to an awful woman has had this experience.
I would imagine at some point in time. I wouldn't know,
because I'm married to a great woman, with the exception
of her being one hundred percent wrong about Cobbler. But
listen to this clip of Alec Baldwin and Hilario Baldwin

(07:18):
from Spain slash Massachusetts. No, no, I think we're gonna
see you know. It's we're gonna see how it feels
to have it be out there. This is great, you're
a winner. Oh my god, when I'm talking, you're not talking. No,
when I'm talking, you're not talking. This is why, Yes,
we'll have to like to just cut him out of
the show. It keeps going, and you need to see

(07:39):
Alec Baldwin's face Buck, I don't know how many red
carpets you've walked. I've walked a few. First of all,
I can't even imagine what the reaction would be if
Alec Baldwin cut his wife off like that and said,
you just need to pretend she's not here. I mean,
he would be totally canceled over this. But for the
men out there, I didn't think it was possible. I
watched this, Buck, and I actually felt sorry for Alec Baldwin.

(08:00):
You can hear a little bit of that weird accent
that she's trying, and again she says that her name
is now Hilario even though she's Hillary from Boston. This
is weird, Like, what is going on here? I don't know, man,
how do we even get on this? Because we were
talking about my wife and the fact that I'm gonna
have to get divorrowed because she said that pie is
a poor man's uh, that that cobbler is a poor

(08:21):
man's pie. I will say this you having. I do
think I could, And maybe I'm wrong about this, but
I was single for a long time in New York City,
which is like the jungle of single life. Like it is,
it is a rough place I think I could do
a whole show, a whole podcast on like relationships and
red flags from a guy's from a guy's perspective, like
I've been I've been through it all, man, Like I've

(08:42):
seen I've seen stuff I haven't you know. Anyway, Uh, well,
this ties in with the college educated women thing that
I was going to talk about of college educated women
smooth transition you're making there. Well, I was gonna say,
can I just put this little bit of advice out there?
If somebody in public is not always on your team

(09:03):
and your advocate, you have a huge problem. Yeah, there
is never any There is never an excuse, whether it
is a spouse, a friend, a colleague, if somebody in
public undermines you and you feel that at all, and
particularly in a romantic relationship, But if you're ever with it,
if you're a guy and you're the gal and she

(09:23):
kind of takes shots at you in front of her
female friends, anything like that, you gotta just you gotta
put the You gotta honestly, you gotta run, you gotta
get away from it. It's done. It's not gonna work,
because that goes to a very deep seated lack of
respect and lack of accountability. Well, it also ties in,
honestly with what the Kennedy family did to RFK Junior,

(09:43):
which we talked about. It's one thing that's growing your
family under the bus, which is just that just means
you have no honor and no character. That's straightforward, speaking
of no honor and no character. A lot of college
educated women are actually in that camp. And I was
looking at this Steve Kornaki, No, yes, Steve Cornashy, the
guy at one of the data gurus that is at NBC.

(10:06):
I always get these guys made MSNBC, MSNBNBAC. He's actually
one of the smarter and more reasonable people over there
well because he just has to look at data and
analyze it as opposed to just saying irrational things. And
he said, there's some numbers here, and we shared this
on social media. But I think we should dive into
this because it actually goes a long way towards explaining

(10:27):
the world that we're in right now. So I'll give you,
for instance, Donald Trump. What is a voter's opinion of
Donald Trump? White men with no degree have a plus
forty one opinion of Donald Trump. That is, white men
without college degrees love Donald Trump. White men who went
to college plus one Donald Trump. You know, okay, so

(10:50):
white men who went to college very even basically like
kind of reflective of the nation. White women with no
college degree have a plus fourteen positivity of Donald Trump.
Listen to this. White women who went to college or
got graduate degrees, so college plus minus thirty eight opinion

(11:14):
of Donald Trump. And I'm writing a new book on this,
like kind of gender related issues, buck one thing that
I think is starting to happen, And I want to
take some calls on this. I want to hear from
women only women, because you know, you and I are
morons on a lot of things related to women. So
I only want women to react to this. I think
a lot of women who went to college, they're getting

(11:37):
sixty percent of all degrees. Now, there are way more
college educated women than there are college educated men. I
think that they have been uniquely susceptible to capture in
a social media era such that they are way more
likely to be responding emotionally because women who went to

(11:57):
college are not even similar in in any way to
ever white women. These are just white women to white men,
both who went to college and didn't and to white
women who didn't go to college. But this is I
think one of the big fault lines in America today.
The Democrat Party by and large is almost exclusively the

(12:19):
party of college educated white women, and college educated white
women are not behaving like almost any other white person
on the planet. What's going on here? Why are they
the outliers? I think they have been largely misled and
set up for poor choices by the culture that we

(12:40):
currently have. I think that college educated white women in particular,
tend to think that everything should be delayed the for career.
And for some women that is absolutely a great move.
For a lot of women, they will end up regretting
getting a not just a college degree. But remember you
got to add into their women who get advanced, you know,

(13:01):
master's degree, PhD. I mean, some women end up being
in school until they're thirty two, thirty three years old,
and then they turn around and they say, Okay, well
now I want to date and find my husband and
build a family. Biology is incredibly important and it matters,
and it affects life choices in ways. And again, people
can I'm not saying anyone, you know, you can choose

(13:23):
your own thing. This is America. That's a free country. Absolutely,
but women have been told, oh, you can do exactly
the same path as your male counterparts and there's no difference.
And anyone who tells you otherwise is bad or you
know a sex sister, that's a lie. Yeah, And that's
where a lot of this comes from. A lot of
women who get married, you know, who don't go to
college then to get married younger, start families younger, and

(13:45):
have a different life perspective. Again, we're speaking in vast generalizations.
Please do not call me and say I have a
PhD and five children and a happy I know, okay,
but we're talking about the you know, you and I.
That is the one frustration we have is to hear
from outliers of the audience when we're talking in the
most broad in general terms. You know, you know, somebody's egg.

(14:06):
I'm a I'm a former Navy seal and Delta Force member,
and I love Broadway shows. Okay, but like you're kind
of an outlier, you know, Like that's love. It is
the number one thing that people love to say. I
was joking about it yesterday. But anytime I come on
and I say anything, which is true for the nation. Right,
average price of a gallon of gas two eighty five.

(14:26):
People feel compelled to tell me, hey, well, yesterday in Boston,
I just paid four to ten. Okay, well it's a
national number, so it may be more expensive in your neighborhood.
Same thing with eggs. I love it. They deluge me.
I want to get calls though, women only. What is
going on with college educated women? Why white women in particular?
Are they completely off the reservation compared to again, college

(14:48):
educated men, non college educated men and women? What is
the story here?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
And uh?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
What is going on? All right? So we will break
all this down. We are going to dive into it.
I got to pick for you, bucker this down. This
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In c DOUBLEA tournament action. This is tomorrow's games. I believe.
I'm not sure what Dave Florida plays, so I could
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automatic win for Johnny Broom. He is the star of

(15:16):
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(15:39):
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(16:00):
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Speaker 1 (16:59):
Get your podcasts. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Sure enough, Clay,
sure enough. I said, please don't tell enough. I'm just kidding.
This doesn't really fall into the category. But we get
people who are like, well, you're speaking in generalizations, and
I'm a break in that generalization. Vip Linda writes, I'm
a college educated white woman with a master's degree. I
think it is more about being brainwashed with my body,

(17:22):
my choice, and abortion. I actually think Linda is correct
here that that's a big that the the abortion and
women's rights quote unquote component of this. You get you
get inundated with that stuff in four years of college.
I mean it is, Clay, I have talked about this.
I had to give people I was an ra I know,
make fun of me. I had to give people dental damns.

(17:45):
I did not know what that was, and I was
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from Steve Kornaki, and I was just laying it out.
College educated white women they hate Trump. They're the only
group of white voters that hates Trump. In fact, he

(19:12):
has a positive review of everybody else. And the difference
between white men with no college degree and white women
with college degrees has probably never been more expansive, huge difference.
White women with college degrees hate Elon, they hate Doge,
they hate the Republican Party, they love Zolensky, and they

(19:37):
also Buck love DEI. So, basically, white women with college
degrees as a group, I know there are many white
women with college degrees that are listening to us right now,
are divergent from every other white person in America in
a massive way. White men with college degrees are not

(19:57):
similar to white women with college degrees, and certainly white
women and men without college degrees are not similar at
all either. A bunch of people want to weigh in,
and let's start with Lois in Raleigh, North Carolina. What
do you think is to explain this?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I am a
college educated woman with a master's degree in education administration.
I worked until thirty nine, got married, and had my son.
I love Trump, and I think maybe some of these women,
because I know some are very angry. Maybe they're even
kind of intimidating, and so they kind of put people

(20:39):
off a little. I don't know, but that's been my experience.
So but I love Trump and I'm a college educated
woman and white.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right, Well, we know, we know there are a lot
of we know there are a lot of you out there.
I'm curious. I mean when you say, did you have peers,
you know, women who are in your program, let's say
your master's program, Like, what what has their experience been?
Because you said, I think you got married at thirty nine,
you had a kid, you know, it all worked out
for you, right, But do you have a lot of
people from your master's program who maybe never were able

(21:07):
to start a family or feel like they spent too
much time in the library or whatever. I'm curious what
your general conception or perception is.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Well, I guess My perception is I felt they they
sort of gave this go away. I'm strong, I'm tough,
I'm not vulnerable that.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Type of thing.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Do you think that was because they were told that
they should compete with men in the workplace in a
way that was unhealthy. I mean, what's your analysis of it.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
I think it's unhealthy because I wanted to be married
and have a child and be a college educated woman.
I wanted to have all of that, and I did.
I just had to wait.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, okay, I've got a good email here, Thank you
for the call. By the way, with you, I can
mention my wife has double graduate degrees and voted for Trump.
So obviously there are a lot of people out there
in that camp. But again on the outlier thing, you know,
Mark Zuckerberg didn't finish college and is one of the
richest people on the planet. That doesn't mean that like

(22:05):
people shouldn't get an education, right, you know, it doesn't
or that you shouldn't finish college if you think that's
gonna be good for you. You know, the exception is not
the rule. The outlier typically is an outlier for a reason.
Good email here from Katie. She says howdy from San Antonio.
College educated gigam Aggie's means she's a tex A and
M grad. I'm a white woman here, voted for Trump,

(22:26):
and what I'm interested in is why you think women,
not what you did, but why you think these numbers
do reflect the truth. There are a lot of people
who disagree with you. Here's her explanation. Many of my
childhood friends turned extremely liberal while in college. Then they
moved into urban suburban areas around Dallas, Austin, and Houston.

(22:47):
All of my white college educated liberal friends are extremely
vocal on social media about the same issues abortion, the
Alphabet Crew, nonsense, and above all, pandering to the race
social causes like BLM. It's like they fall all over
each other to show who is the most apologetic for

(23:09):
being white and who adopts the most pets from their
local shelter. Their need to fill morally superior is unmatched.
I think that's a really great email that actually makes
a lot of sense. Yeah, high five to who was
the author of that one. Vad Katie Gigamaggie's good luck
to Texas A and M in the tournament. Based on this,

(23:30):
She also said, by the way, Texas A and m
one of the exceptions mostly conservative school, especially compared to
that Orange school in Austin, taking a little bit of
a shot at University of Texas. But it is interesting
that it's like for college educated women, their social stature
is a competition to see who can appear the most

(23:53):
emotionally empathetic, and they may well drive it. I think
that the notional blackmail that we are all put through
in college by the woke machinery is particularly effective on women.
I just think that, again, that doesn't mean that all
women succumb to it. It just means that I think

(24:14):
that women are more likely because they're more Look, can
we can speak about these things honestly, right? Women tend
to be more empathetic. Women tend to be more in
touch with their feelings, you know. In general, Okay, I
need some woman to call, like I could bench press
you buck like I'm sure you can. But generally speaking,
women are more when full macho man Randy Savage's the

(24:37):
that's the lesbian woman from the Democrat Party that picked
Tim Walls as the man to appeal to. You get
what I'm you get what I'm putting down. But I
think that women want to be in. I'm talking about
college women in college were of that age. Obviously, they
want to be empathetic. They want to be sympathetic, they
want to do what they can for other people, and
they are told that to be good people, bull to

(25:01):
be good people, you have to identify with these cousin
Clay a perfect example of this, Zelenski. The college educated
women love little Zelenski. Give me more money. I'm here
for Donald Trump in my T shirt. Like, the whole
thing is bizarre when you think about this. Also, what
are these college educated women know about what it means

(25:24):
to be somewhere where you could get blown up by
an ied or shot by a sniper rifle, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. And yet they're the ones that
are so all in on this Ukraine war situation. Like,
think about this for a second. The guys who has fought,
who has fought a lot of Americans war. Now, I
have friends who come from very well off backgrounds who

(25:44):
were in the Army and in the Marines too, So
I'm not I'm not saying again we're speaking generalities here, Okay,
working class men are the ones who fight America's wars.
Rich Man's poor Man's Fight has been a praise for
hundreds of years, and it's true. In the world. It is,
you know, eighteen year olds from working class backgrounds who

(26:07):
are the ones signing up fighting our wars. I don't
think anybody would find this a controversial statement. It is
the truth. And it's interesting that they like Trump the
guy who's trying to end the war, and white college
educated women are the ones who are like Slava Ukrainy,
like fight till the very end. The guys know that

(26:27):
this stuff is nasty and you want to end it
as fast as possible. This is not a video game.
Mary in San Marcos, Texas, what's your theory on what's
going on here?

Speaker 6 (26:39):
I think they're spoiled brats. I think they think they're enabled,
and they think that they're better, and they think that
they're going to do whatever they think they want to do.
They are using the female card. I'm in my sixties, man.
It took me a while to get my degree, but
I work my butt off to get my degree, literally
because we did have federal loans then we had to

(27:02):
pay it as we went. But I very much earned
my degree. I am a degree from Texas, A and
M Corporus Christi, Texas. But I am a teacher. I
retired after twenty five years. But before that, I was
a mechanic in an oil refinery. I was a mechanic
in Abbot Laboratory medical manufacturing system. As I said, I

(27:25):
worked my butt off. And these ladies that are just
doing this, they couldn't be bothered by dirting their hands
doing menal work, waitressing, or working in their kitchen or
working uh in some kind of hands on product. They're little,
you know, little mistuccies doing what they want to do
because I'm a female and I can do this, and

(27:46):
you know you have to hire me because I'm entitled. No,
you're not.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thank you for the call, but I love it. Thank
you for the call. I do think there's a generational
divide here, right, because a lot of women college graduates
are recent women college graduates, meaning in the last twenty
or thirty years. As now women get way more college
degrees in question, for you, buck, are women, because of

(28:12):
social media, far more likely to be susceptible to what
their friends do and say than men are. Like I
don't know about you, but Clay and I Clay and
I here experts on women. I just think it's kind
of funny. Yes, I'm just having I'm just having a
go at you. Yes, I think that you are correct.
I think that the I see this all the time.

(28:34):
Can I just tell you something, you know, I have
I still have some friends who are single and I
and I love hearing about, you know, their story. It's
great to hear their stories, right, It's it's like hearing
about people who are out there in the jungle trying
to find the tiger still, you know, like I'm I'm safe.
And I got an older brother who's who's a fantastic

(28:54):
guy and a very LGB bachelor, a great catch. Just
thrown it out there, great catch, Mason, my older brother,
and and he's still single. But you know, I've got
a bunch of friends down here as well, who are
all single guys. And Clay. The number of women who
think it's really appealing to tell guys that their great
life life aspiration is to travel is insane to me.

(29:16):
This is this is entirely a product of Instagram culture
and getting the likes. And I'm in Toulom and I'm
in Barcelona, and I'm in all these places and all
my friends think I'm living this great life. Traveling is
a thing you do once in a while to do
a reset from your actual life. And yeah, sound like

(29:37):
an Instagram influencer chick right now. I kind of think
they're right. I love to travel. I want to go everywhere.
That's what I want to do. I want to just
travel over the You gotta see me, like on the
edge of a cliff taking a selfie, like look at
the sea in the background. We need doctor Laura. Where's
doctor Laura. We need hear the weigh in on this.
But I do think that first of all, I have

(29:58):
no idea what my friends say on social media, Like
I use social media. If you were trying to find
you found, you found a great woman and built a
beautiful family in a real young world where you meet
face to face like in law school, like most people
used to meet face to face. But so I the
whole dating on the internet thing was like predates me. So,
but I'm saying if you if you met a girl
in you know, not Laura, if you had met somebody

(30:20):
before you met Laura, and you said, hey, like, you know,
what do you want to do? Just like I just
want to travel now, you think that's a you think
that not not. I want to build a family. I
like to travel. Now what I wanted to hear you're
a want you don't count now I'm talking about when
you were single. Oh yeah, No, what I wanted to
hear was I want to have a ton of kids. Yeah,
that's what I would want to hear. So you agree

(30:42):
with me your whole I love to travel thing, Clay, Yeah, like,
cause you're you know, I'm already around totally different, but
but I do think the thing that I wanted to
hear was, Hey, I want to have a bunch of kids.
And that's what had appeal to me. And if you're
or I guess I'm thinking like twenty five year old

(31:03):
day if you're like thirty five and you meet somebody
and like, what do you want to do with your life?
Like I want to travel. That's a little bit weird person.
There's a lot I've had. This is what I'm telling you.
There are a lot of women in their thirties who
their aspiration is their life aspiration again as they're presenting
it on social media and on dating apps or whatever,
is I want to travel. And I just think that
this is this mindset of this self actualization through selfies

(31:29):
is really damaging. I think it's totally true. Here's another
question for you. Do you think women are more impacted
by negativity on social media? Like, in other words, anything
that we post, If you want to go into the mentions,
you can find five or six people that are like,
kill yourself, I hope you die, right, I mean that
is very common on social media, particularly Twitter compared to Instagram.

(31:52):
How much of this is just a fear of anybody
disagreeing with them in a desperate way. Women are far
more social savvy than men are, Like I don't know
what I'm getting, the cold shoulder, I don't notice because
I'm I'm not savvy enough to notice it in many respects.
And I do think women are more, far more tuned.
And I wonder my thought on this is what would

(32:15):
Trump have been like in a non social media era. Well,
come back, let's come back to this. Okay, let's come
back to those two questions. And also we'll get some
of your calls to close us out. We're talking about
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(32:36):
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Week Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the iHeart Radio,
Adam or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome
back into Clay and Buck. We are fired up here
on this topic, as are so many of you. You're
calling in, you're writing in all over the place we have.
Is this a call Christine and Cape Cod and God?

(34:19):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Hi? Well? I am. I have two children in their twenties.
I raised them in affluent Newton, Massachusetts. I have a
master's degree to successful companies. Although I'm a Republican, all
of my best friends that I raised my children with
were crazy Liberals. And to the point of where what

(34:43):
I think is going on and what I saw in
our community is that boys have been totally emasculated as
well as men, And for the most part, most of
the men in our community were raised to be very effeminate,
to not be aggressive, to not be real men, to
not be do sexual advances, advances for concern over being

(35:05):
aggressive or for it to be looked at as you know,
rapists or whatever. And so I think young boys are
are not are told not to be that way. And
so when all these women are confronted with a real
man who is aggressive, who is all you know, playing
outside and wrestling and all of that, they are like

(35:27):
a guest. Boys shouldn't be that way. Men shouldn't be
that way.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So Trump, super fast, real.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Man, I think, I think is looked upon as that.
And so I think, and certainly like my daughter who
is in Cambridge and went to school in Boston, all
of the men were very effeminate. So you have all
of these women who and the women in my community,
we were all lucky enough to raise our children at home,

(35:54):
so they were leading very feminine roles within their households,
how you know, staying home, taking care of their kids,
all of that. Yet we were telling our kids to
not be that way. Don't assume those roles. Girl, you know,
get that abortion if you want that abortion, and boys
don't be don't wrestle, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, they masculinize the women. Actually, the young women are
being told to act more like men, and men are
being told to act more like women. It's part of
the whole gender confusion in this country. Great call, great call,
Thank you so much. Let me just say for those
of you, because I think we have like every line
right now lit up. We obviously were at the end
of the show, so Clint and I would love it
if you would whatever you want to say tell us
on talkback. We will definitely hear it. We get all

(36:34):
of the talkbacks, We get them sent to us in
emails so we can hear them or read the transcript,
and we'll play some of them tomorrow because we're at time.
Great idea. Yes, if you are still waiting, give us
the talkback on the iHeart App and we will play
a bunch of these tomorrow. Great emails, great calls. We'll
be back with all of you tomorrow in CAA tournament.
Get your picks in, let's have some fun.

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