May 9, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features an engaging discussion with Steve Hilton, a Fox News personality running for governor of California. Hilton criticizes Gavin Newsom's governance, highlighting issues such as population decline due to mismanagement, high taxes, and excessive regulations. He emphasizes the need for change and outlines his background, including his work in the UK government and his move to California in 2012. Hilton discusses the political landscape, noting recent shifts in several counties from blue to red and the potential for a populist message to resonate with working-class voters, particularly Latinos.
The conversation also touches on the impact of wildfires in California, attributing their severity to environmental extremism and governmental incompetence. Hilton criticizes the handling of permits for rebuilding and the broader failures of Democrat rule in Los Angeles County. The discussion then shifts to Kamala Harris's political future, with Hilton expressing skepticism about her viability as a change candidate due to her long tenure in California politics without significant accomplishments.
Clay and Buck also delve into the hypocrisy of Bernie Sanders' use of private jets while campaigning against the oligarchy, highlighting the disconnect between his rhetoric and actions. They discuss the broader issue of politicians enjoying elite lifestyles funded by wealthy donors while advocating for socialist policies.
The hour concludes with a critique of ESPN's focus on social issues, specifically the inclusion of trans kids in sports, and a reflection on the changing priorities in sports broadcasting. The hosts express frustration with the politicization of sports and emphasize the importance of competition and fairness.
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As promised, we got our friend Steve Hilton on the
line with us now. He is of Fox News fame
and he is running for governor of our biggest state
by population, California. A lot of you are residents of
(00:43):
that great state, which is poorly governed but still a
lovely place. Steve, good to have you on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh, it's fantastic to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
And I've got a new claim to fame, okay, which
is the Gavin Newsoon just launched what he calls a
fact checking web site to fight back against misinformation and
the MAGA trolls and guess who was his first target?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Me?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So I think I'm doing something right if he's focusing
on me. And guess what he focused on. A point
that I made about people leaving California said that is false.
Our population is growing, and so Clay, if I can
just use a very simple basic sports analogy, own goal,
Gavin Newsom, Yes, our population is growing in California, but
(01:27):
only because of illegal immigration. Actual people are leaving in
droves because of the mismanagement, the taxes, the regulation, the
insanity of Gavin Newsom and this fifteen years of one
party rule by the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All right, Steve, I want you to introduce I know
you've been on the show before. You had a great
book that came out recently, but I want to give
you an opportunity because there's tons of people listening right
now in California. Also, as you just mentioned, a lot
of people who used to live in California that are
listening to us right now. You love the state of California.
You grew up a huge fan of a beautiful state.
(02:03):
What is your background and how have you come to
end up running for governor of California.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
People can hear I still have the British accident. I
was born and raised in the UK. My parents Hungarian.
Actually they were produced from communism in Hungary.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Most of my family's back in Hungary.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And then in twenty twelve we moved here to California
with my wife and my two sons.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I've raised my family here.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I taught at Stanford University, I started a business here.
All of that before joining Fox News, and in fact,
just before moving here to California, I worked in the
government in the UK, our senior advisor to Prime Minister
David Cameron, where I was really leading our domestic policy reform.
So I've worked in government, I've worked in the private sector.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I've had this show on Fox News.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I've just written a book about how California is the
worst run state in America. But the good news is
all of that is man made. This is not a
natural disaster. These are all decisions and policies implemented by Democrats.
We can turn it all around as long as we
vote for people who are going to bring change. And
that's why I'm running for governor. It's very obvious what
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needs to be done here. It's just as the President says,
it's just common sense. It's not complicated. But we just
need to vote for change. Too many people, I think
have given up on California. They assume it's going to
be like this forever. That is not the case. I've
been on the road now nearly three weeks. Everywhere I go,
you get this huge energy, people just sick and tired
of the nonsense and really optimistic that now we've got
(03:37):
a candidate with the energy and the ideas to make
a difference, and that's going to be me.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Steve, it would be you know, obviously there was another
very successful and well known immigrant to this country, legal
immigrant to this country who became the governor, so we
all remember, and he was I believe a Republican at
the time. So it is possible were a ways out
from where you would get the opportunity to dethrone Noosemism,
(04:05):
which even though the Democrats would kick and scream about
it would be for their own good. But how do
you run that gauntlet? I mean, what can you do
in a state like California where what is it about
sixty forty Democrat or Republican by registration maybe a little more. Yeah,
how can you actually thread this needle and win. It
has been done in the not too distant past. What
(04:27):
would you have to do to make this a serious race?
And you know, not like there's some people that run
for governor there as a vanity campaign. What are you
going to do?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One totally agree with that, And look, the starting point
is that there are some ingredients that are grounds for optimism.
So in the last election in November twenty twenty four,
ten counties in California flip from blue to red, and
you know, including some significant ones like Fresno County. I'll
be there later today. I'm in the Central Valley today
(04:56):
with our great egg industry, which are this huge supporter
of Fresno County. Fresno's the fifth biggest city in California,
fliped from bluetread along with nine other counties. It's Huntington Beach,
the biggest city in Orange County. That's where I launched
my campaign a couple of weeks ago, because it's so
symbolic just four years ago. For a little bit little
over four years ago, the city council there was six
to one Democrat. Now it's seven zero Republican massive turnaround
(05:20):
there and was just rated the best run city in California.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You look at the number of votes.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That President Trump got in California, that's more than enough
to win in twenty twenty six, which is a midterm
year where you tend to have lower voting turnout. So
if all the Trump voters turn out in twenty twenty six,
I will win. Now, of course that's a big if,
but it's something you can work on to persuade people
that it's worth going out to vote. And then the
(05:48):
final ingredient, and this is really where my focus is
going to be, is just as you've seen across the
country in the Trump years, this massive political realignment with
Latinos and working class voters shifting from Democrat to Republican.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's our opportunity in California.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Latinos are the largest group in California forty percent of
the population, and the working class vote, which the Democrats
have taken for granted, is right there for the taking.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I was in East LA on Monday, sitting down with
working class Latino families, parents and business owners.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They are sick of all the nonsense.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
They're the people hammered the most by these policies, the
tax increases, the regulations, the climate extremism that tells you
what kind of truck to drive and how to cook
your food. They've had it with all of that stuff,
the nonsense in the schools. So I think that's our opportunity,
and I'm going to really go for it with that
kind of populist message. I think that's the real heart
(06:41):
of this. The theme of my show was positive populism.
I wrote a book a few years ago called Positive Populism.
I think that's how we can pull this off in California.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What's the latest on the wildfires in the La Area,
Pacific Palacades, Alta Dina, If I remember correctly the neighborhoods
that were most devastated, and how do you think that
might have shaken people out of some of the entrenched
politics that they might have embraced for a generation.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's incredibly important because it is just an absolute symbol
of everything that's wrong with California, because it's this combination
of ideological extremism and governing incompetence. Those two things together,
the ideology is what led to the fact that these
fires were so much worse than they need have been
because of the environmental extremism that said you can't clear brush,
(07:34):
you can't manage your land properly. People are fined for
trying to clear brush from their own property, all driven
by their climate extremism. And then you see the incompetence,
of course, the empty reservoir, the fire hydrants with no water,
the fire department that was not deployed properly, on and
on right, and the reason that's so important. And now
(07:54):
you see the incompetence totally exceeding even what we saw before.
Bass saying to President Trump to his face, Yes, we're
going to get on with it and issue permits for
rebuilding and do it in record time. Still, I mean
a few weeks ago is four permits had been issued.
Now I think it's up to the massive number of thirty.
It is an absolute joke. It and exposes how ridiculous
(08:16):
these people are. So Karen Bass. A few weeks ago
she did a press conference where she announced where the
post that she put out said, I have just signed
an executive order streamlining permitting for rebuilding Los Angeles. If
you actually look at what she said, it says she said,
I've just signed an executive order tasking agency heads with
developing paths forward to streamlining permits.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
In other words, it's bs because all you've.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Got from these California politicians is these idiots who have
no clue how to run anything. All they do is
manage their way around the political machine that's being exposed.
And the reason it matters so much that it's in LA,
it's because Los Angeles is the biggest county in California.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Twenty three percent the vote is LA County.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So the fact that that's the place that's been so
directly exposed to the disaster of Democrat rule is incredibly
important and another great ingredient for how we can win here.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Speaking of Steve Hilton, he has announced his candidacy for
governor of California. I was wondering, Steve, because you would
have an ear to the ground, so to speak, on
how things are going with the opposition there, with the
Democrats that you're going to try to unset. The future
of Kamala Harris in California politics. People talk about her
still as possible governor, they talk about her still as
(09:34):
possible presidential candidate. How do you see Karmala's future?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, just in terms of what I'm hearing to take
the first part of your question. What we're hearing from
those close to her and reporters who follow her movements
is that she's been told, in no uncertain terms that
there's really no support for her from the donors from
the Democrat machine for another residential run.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That the support isn't there for that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So if she wants to do anything, it's going to
be governor of California. I would welcome that, because when
people ask me, well, how are you gonna win as
a Republican in California, Here's what I say. The truth is,
we've got majorities in California now who say, for a
long time have been saying it's time for change.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
States going in the wrong direction. All of that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So the candidate who's going to win in twenty twenty six,
regardless of party label, is the change candidate. Kamala Harris
is literally the most implausible change.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Candidate you could ever imagine.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
She's been around in California politics for decades and she's
done nothing of any note where is a single accomplishment
in all her years DA of San Francisco, Attorney General
of California, Senator for California, vice vice president, and a
disastrous presidential candidate. Not once in any of those years,
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but she actually delivered anything of value to anybody in
the real world. And so I don't think there's anything
better that would help our chances more than for Kamala
Harris to be the candidate. Plus you'd get I think,
a lot of support right across the country from people
who would love the chance to beat her again.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I love your pitch, and I think that you not
being from California actually makes the pitch really resonate.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Buck and I have talked about this.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I didn't get to go visit the state of California
until I think I was twenty one. I had a
college roommate from there, went out and visited. Buck grew
up in New York City. California was a shimmering city
on a hill, dreamy for a lot of people who
live in many parts of the United States, and I
bet also for kids like you growing up in England,
growing up in Europe. It was a place that people
(11:43):
aspired to go. You can help to tell that story
and bring it back. But when you travel the state,
do you get that sense that there still is that
desire to make California really epitomize and personify the American dream.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh, Clayt, You're so right about that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
In fact, there's a very specific example of working about
back in the day before when I was working for
David Cameron, he was the leader of the Conservative Party.
I was his chief policy advisor. Before we actually before
he became Prime Minister. The Spectator magazine print magazine in
the UK ran a cover story about the plans that
we were developing, and the headline of the piece was
(12:23):
California Dreaming, and the theme of the article was Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru. The plans they're developing are all
about making the UK more like California.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He's inspired by California. He thinks it's the best place
in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Okay, this was twenty years ago, So I mean, is
there a single political advisor anywhere in the world who
would want to make their country more like California today?
Of course, not that shows how far badly off track
we've gotten, But the point is there. Exactly as you
said to me, California represents the ultimate expression of America.
There's a phrase that I used the whole time, California
(12:59):
means to Ama, what America means to the world. So
to me, California represents everything I love about this country.
Ambition and energy and optimism and dynamism and startup hustle
and actually also the rebel spirit the people who made
it here to the West coast and went through the
Sierra Nevada and struggled through all those barriers to get
(13:20):
here and build this amazing place that we have, as
far as I'm concerned, the greatest place in the world, California.
That's an amazing energy that we have, and it's been
crushed by this ridiculous, bossy, bureaucratic, nanny state, bloated government.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We lift that off. There's nothing that we can't do
in California, and I love that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I'm in love with California in a very very serious way,
and that's why I'm really determined to do this. If
we can turn things around in California, it's not just
going to be great for all of us here, it's
going to be great for the whole country too.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Steve Hilton, where's your website for the campaign? Anybody who
live We are a lot of California listeners. Such a
big state, so many great Republicans behind enemy lines there,
Where do they go?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So Steve Hilton for Governor dot com. Fr Steve Hilton
for Governor dot com. We would love your support. We're
up against a very big and well funded Democrat machine
the government unions, of course, but I'd love people's time
and energy as well. We've got to really build a
grassroots movement, so you can get involved with us at
the website. Steve Hilton for Governor dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We'll be talking to you more, Steve. Good luck to you,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Fantastic, great to see you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
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crazy Town continues to find its way into the world
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of sports. But even I sometimes hear this and I
can't believe that this is real. This was on ESPN
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Her final message that she wants to send trans kids
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Speaker 5 (16:36):
Being on this show has been a privilege in a platform,
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and that is this that trans kids deserve.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
To play sports.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Think about what you remember from your time playing sports,
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high fives. It's that moment when you have a great
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Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's also competition. I think I think sports is competition.
I don't think it's just joy and fairness in competition.
And every trans kid. First of all, I'm gonna probably
upset people here. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't believe that trans kids exist. I don't believe
that you are six years old and you are like, oh,
I'm a girl in a boy's body, just like I
don't believe that six year olds who think they're a
dinosaur or a Jedi are actually speaking the truth. This
is me having raised three kids. Now you're over eighteen,
and you decide that's going to make you happier, that's
a different conversation. But these kids can all play sports.
(17:55):
You play the sport of your gender, and by the way,
if you're really good. We had a ten year old
girl on our boys team. She was the best player.
Pre puberty. That can happen. So this whole idea, like
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want to know what's going to happen to the Nick
Celtics series, and then you're getting lectured about trans kid
in sports.
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It's it's crazy. They can play sports with the gender
that they actually are. It's fine. You want to grow
your hair out long and be called Susan, No problem.
You're still playing with dudes because you're a dude. Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (19:22):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We had
been talking about this exchange with Bernie. I want to
go beyond just the immediate allegations here of you know,
hypocrisy for Bernie Sanders on this one. And also it's
remarkable this guy, he just he stayed around as long
as he has in Democrat politics. What he's what he's
selling is he is a just a fiction. The whole
(19:43):
thing is an absurdity. And I'll explain why that is
in a second. Clay and I will dive into this,
but first, Yeah, he's on an oligauky tour. He's going
around talking about the oligarchy, which you know, what does
that even mean? Right, It's just just a thing to
manipulate the emotions of not very bright people, which he
(20:03):
does quite well. And this is brought up by Brett Behar,
who is very gentlemanly but will ask the question, right,
he will ask the question he should ask as a
person who is on TV and has the access, but
he does in a gentlemanly fashion. Here he is asking
Bernie Sanders, hey, you're flying around talking about the oligarchy.
Which means the elites. Essentially, these really are are interchangeable terms.
(20:27):
And you fly private everywhere? Is that kind of weird
play it?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Free Beacon says Bernie
Sanders spent two hundred twenty one thousand on private jets
fighting the Oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders.
That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on
private jet travel over the years.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How do you push back on both of those.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Things when the last time you saw Donald Trump during
a campaign mode at National Airport.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
No, no, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
But he's also not fighting the oligarchy. No.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rally is in a week the only
way you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around.
No apologies for that. That's what campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're gonna do it
in the future.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I just point out, Clay that it is actually possible
to get around to a lot of places without flying private.
To start with that, I mean, I'm sure I understand,
of course it's more convenient to fly private. Is that
anyone who has ever done it knows. But beyond that,
I like Brett Bear's point there too, which is, yeah,
but your your whole thing is the elites. You're doing
(21:37):
something that is the ultimate symbol of elitism. Still I
think that, I think really expensive boat and private jet
travel are the two ultra elite things. And he sees
no dissonance with this in his messaging at all.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let's start here, what percentage of people do you think
have ever flown private? Ninety nine point eight percent haven't
ninety nine points seven percent have it? Like, clearly less
than one percent have ever flown in a private plane.
And I'm not talking about like, hey, I'm in a.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Like a a propeller, like a planet jumper, and the
Bahamas doesn't count because that's the only way you can
get from one island to another. And by the way,
those planes might as well be paper airplanes. I'm just saying,
I'm talking about a private jet. It is one in
a thousand at best. Yes, And so I don't now.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Having said that, I don't begrudge people who have the
resources to do it, because typically that's one reason you
bust your ass right because you're val Really, the private
jet travel is about saving time more than it's about
anything else. So because you can get to places that
are way more difficult to get to. I don't disagree
with that argument. But you can't be on a fighting
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the oligarchy tour and lecture me that what you want
me to Wait and United and our buddy Jesse Kelly
has talked about this, I think before, but I think
it's a good synthesis. A lot of times Paul politicians
and I will put politicians in both parties for this.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And this is one reason I like Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Want to have the super rich jet setter lifestyle without
having earned that lifestyle themselves. And so they have other
richer people paying for a travel that they can't otherwise
afford themselves. And this is why I really respect a
lot of people that are in this Trump administration. They're
(23:28):
all taking pay cuts to work on behalf of the
country by and large, they are leaving behind jobs that
paid them a lot more to try and give back
to the country. Whether it's Trump, whether it's Best, whether
it's Lutnick, whether it's I mean, you can just RFK Junior.
Probably on some level, the family's very wealthy. You can
just run through a list of these people who are
(23:49):
giving back to the country that otherwise Linda McMahon would
have been. We just talked to Kelly Leffler. All of
these people have independent wealth, and I don't begrudge using
that into pent wealth. But when you use you basically
suck at the teat of the public, or you use
other rich people to elevate your lifestyle and then you
(24:10):
lecture me about how awful they are, I'm sorry, it's indefensible. Well,
but this is also I think that's a perfect pivot
point here into the whole message is a fraud. This
notion that the Democrats stand against oligarchy as a party.
They have more billionaires than we do. They have more
Fortune Fortune fifty or Fortune one hundred companies and CEOs,
(24:34):
et cetera on their side than we do. They have
Wall Street on their side, they have the biggest hedge
fund directors on their side. The Democrats are the party
of the elites, and this is the big lie they
tell is that they're the party of the middle class,
when in reality, the Democrats and this just this, you
can look at the data. Democrats are the party of
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people who are so rich that the moronic policies they
push do not count and just make them feel good
about themselves. Right, you know, the illegals are going to
go live with the poor people, so Democrats can be
open borders because oh also maybe they'll be making, you know,
things for them and their factories are working in the
chicken processing plants that they own or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So it's for the elites. And then it's for the
dependent class, which is government employees by and large, like
federal bureaucrats, and people on various forms of welfare and
state dependency. This is who the Democrats actually. This is
what comprises the modern Democrat at its core, modern Democrat
party and the pretense that somehow they stand to thwart wealth.
(25:35):
I mean, if you look at the richest neighborhoods in America,
they are overwhelmingly not just Democrat majority, they're overwhelmingly Democrat
Democrats strongholds. And you know what does that tell you, right?
I mean, if you go into the richest parts of
New York City, the richest parts of la the richest
parts of Chicago. Everybody sits around talking about how they're
(25:57):
with her, and they voted for Kamala and you know,
they thought that Biden was sharp as attack. So that
is what bothers me so much about the whole Bernie
Sanders scam is that the Democrats are the you know,
you just saw this really kind of creepy photo spread
of Soros's son Alex Soros with Anthony Weiner starting on
(26:18):
that which is which you know, this is like where
do these where do these people? Why do they want
to just inflict their terrible ideas on the rest of us. Also,
I hate this thing of of you know, these heiresses
or rather these ex wives and these uh, these Trustafarians
who come forward with their terrible ideas who have never
actually done anything, and they want to fund all the
(26:39):
all the left wing morons out there who have more
bad ideas for the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I the if you didn't see it, it looks like
an evil villain photo that they post for. I don't know,
I've never I hate you and I have done in
a funny way. You and I have done a few
of these photo shoots before for promotional purposes, and I
just I justies any photo shoot because I'm like, just
take a still shot of some television hit whatever. I
(27:05):
don't like putting on makeup. I don't like getting dressed up.
It is miserable to me.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Co imagine doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For free, like, not for your job at all. They're like, hey,
you and your wife are gonna get dressed up and
we're gonna do some ridiculous photo shoot. And let me
ask you this. If you were a thirty nine year
old billionaire, would you end up with a forty nine
year old ex wife of what's the guy's name, the
crazy dude in New York Anthony Wiener?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah? Would you you mean the convicted sex criminals? Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Would you want to in some way have your they
have kids? Would you want if you were a thirty
nine year old billionaire to end up with a forty
nine year old woman who has children with a sex
offender convicted? I believe, Anthony Wiener so that your life
forever is connected to him. I just I don't even
understand how that would be possible. You were in New York,
(28:01):
she can you imagine being a single billionaire in New
York City? Like, the girls that you have access to
are the likes of which you've never seen before. Now
maybe maybe you're like, hey, I can't trust all these people,
but to end up with the forty nine year old
ex wife of Anthony Wiener, Like, that's the choice you make.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It it's a political it's a political matter. Though, because
she gives him I think that's probably gives him entree
because remember, Huma Abidin was also a political marriage of sorts.
I'm not saying maybe they loved each other tremendously and
I wasn't in the room, you know, I get it.
But she she was very tough. She was basically Hillary
Clinton's right hand woman, okay, and when Hillary Clinton was
(28:42):
expected to be President of the United States for eight years,
whom a Abdin was a very important person and was
able to build her network among the Democrats who matter
all across the country, the donors, the movers and shakers,
all that stuff. Right. So Anthony Wiener marries into you know, Mary's.
That situation didn't go so well with that marriage, as
we know, for obvious reasons. And a guy named Wiener,
(29:05):
you can't make this up. A guy named Wiener who
was brought down in politics for sending photos of his wiener. Yeah,
there's certainly anority there. I mean, and then you marry
his ex wife. I mean, that's what I like. I'm
just she may be the greatest human who's ever existed.
This is he He is a guy who he's just
(29:26):
going to be the continuation of Sorrows, which has used
billions of dollars to inflict the worst ideas on the
American people. But to have so many people feeding at
the trough that they'll never turn around and look at
you and say, you know, what you're doing is just
going to result in, you know, horrible stuff for everybody.
You know. Does anybody who is funding like BLM protest
movements and to the BLM organization do they take any
(29:48):
ownership of the fact that now a solid majority, like
sixty five percent of the American people say BLM did
nothing to help race relations and made everything worse. Does
anyone take ownership for that? No, Sorrows money behind a
lot of these organis Soros money behind the worst ideas
in the country. But he marries Huma Aviden because she
has the rolodex to connect him to the people who
matter within that movement. Still, I can't believe I'm actually
(30:10):
going to do this. Buck In George Soros's defense, he
has awful politics, I can't believe I'm going to say this,
but at least he made his own money. I mean,
I don't agree with his politics, but at least he
went out and made billions of dollars in the marketplace
at large through capitalism. Now I think, unfortunately he's inflicted awful,
(30:30):
awful results on the United States with his endorsement of
soft on crime district attorneys. But now his son is
just inheriting billions of dollars, has never proven to have
any talent at anything in the world, and suddenly he's
like the Democrat powerbroker. I mean, his photo is with
every prominent Democrat in the entire country. They basically all
(30:55):
show up and shake.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Him for the money tree and beg him for his
grace and his cash.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And it's kind of gross.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And again, this is why I respect the people who
actually made their own money and have decided, hey, I
made my money. Now I'm going into politics more than
the people who either inherit it or are just trying
to trade on other wealthy people to have a lifestyle
they otherwise haven't earned.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And I just bring it back to the Bernie Sanders
Tour for imbeciles, which is what's going on right now
with AOC. Right, they're like, yeah, like free everything for everybody.
The numbers don't work. We are running out of room
to keep putting this stuff on the national credit card
and hoping that our dollar doesn't get destroyed. Okay, they
can't keep doing We cannot mathematically. And it's not just
(31:43):
me saying clay and you saying it and Republicans, it's
people like Elon Musk who have an understanding of numbers
and where things are going structurally over time. We cannot
keep doing this. They want to do the thing that
will hurdle us toward insolvency faster than anything, which is
create a universe versal pay or you know, a universal
Medicare system whatever it is that they're calling it today,
(32:03):
universal healthcare. And the thing about Bernie Sanders I find
so fascinating is he shouts down the oligarchy. But who's
who's writing the checks to pay for the private jets?
That's that's yes, of course, yes, yes, rich people. He
is a little tool of rich people who are make
believe socialists from their mansions in Brentwood and the Upper
(32:26):
West Side. That's what really Bernie Sanders is all about.
And then other people who, instead of blaming the rich
for all their problems, should take some accountability and say, hey,
what am I really doing with myself? What am I
really contributing to my community in my day to day life?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
How about also climate change, which they now just vanished
talking about. You notice that's kind of vanished as a
talking point. Climate change hasn't been talked about very much recently.
But the amount of jet fuel exhaust the amount of
ozone depletion, whatever you want to say, from a private
jet is off the charts. And so it's not even
(33:03):
just the convenience argument. It's also a way to manute.
You're destroying the planet.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And this was al Gore's argument too, whenever somebody would
point out that he was flying on private jets everywhere,
and it was well, it's really important. It's more important
that I'm out there spreading the message about climate change
than I actually adhere to the stuff that I preach. Right, Well,
people can see through that who have the ability to
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We appreciate all of you who are listening. Also for
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Are you excited? Are you prepared for your first ever
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Sexton Show YouTube channel. Welcome back to Clay and Buck.
As promised, we got our friend Steve Hilton on the
line with us now. He is of Fox News fame
and he is running for governor of our biggest state
by population, California. A lot of you are residents of
(00:43):
that great state, which is poorly governed but still a
lovely place. Steve, good to have you on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh, it's fantastic to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
And I've got a new claim to fame, okay, which
is the Gavin Newsoon just launched what he calls a
fact checking web site to fight back against misinformation and
the MAGA trolls and guess who was his first target?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Me?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
So I think I'm doing something right if he's focusing
on me. And guess what he focused on. A point
that I made about people leaving California said that is false.
Our population is growing, and so Clay, if I can
just use a very simple basic sports analogy, own goal,
Gavin Newsom, Yes, our population is growing in California, but
(01:27):
only because of illegal immigration. Actual people are leaving in
droves because of the mismanagement, the taxes, the regulation, the
insanity of Gavin Newsom and this fifteen years of one
party rule by the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All right, Steve, I want you to introduce I know
you've been on the show before. You had a great
book that came out recently, but I want to give
you an opportunity because there's tons of people listening right
now in California. Also, as you just mentioned, a lot
of people who used to live in California that are
listening to us right now. You love the state of California.
You grew up a huge fan of a beautiful state.
(02:03):
What is your background and how have you come to
end up running for governor of California.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
People can hear I still have the British accident. I
was born and raised in the UK. My parents Hungarian.
Actually they were produced from communism in Hungary.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Most of my family's back in Hungary.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And then in twenty twelve we moved here to California
with my wife and my two sons.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So I've raised my family here.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I taught at Stanford University, I started a business here.
All of that before joining Fox News, and in fact,
just before moving here to California, I worked in the
government in the UK, our senior advisor to Prime Minister
David Cameron, where I was really leading our domestic policy reform.
So I've worked in government, I've worked in the private sector.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I've had this show on Fox News.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I've just written a book about how California is the
worst run state in America. But the good news is
all of that is man made. This is not a
natural disaster. These are all decisions and policies implemented by Democrats.
We can turn it all around as long as we
vote for people who are going to bring change. And
that's why I'm running for governor. It's very obvious what
(03:15):
needs to be done here. It's just as the President says,
it's just common sense. It's not complicated. But we just
need to vote for change. Too many people, I think
have given up on California. They assume it's going to
be like this forever. That is not the case. I've
been on the road now nearly three weeks. Everywhere I go,
you get this huge energy, people just sick and tired
of the nonsense and really optimistic that now we've got
(03:37):
a candidate with the energy and the ideas to make
a difference, and that's going to be me.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Steve, it would be you know, obviously there was another
very successful and well known immigrant to this country, legal
immigrant to this country who became the governor, so we
all remember, and he was I believe a Republican at
the time. So it is possible were a ways out
from where you would get the opportunity to dethrone Noosemism,
(04:05):
which even though the Democrats would kick and scream about
it would be for their own good. But how do
you run that gauntlet? I mean, what can you do
in a state like California where what is it about
sixty forty Democrat or Republican by registration maybe a little more. Yeah,
how can you actually thread this needle and win. It
has been done in the not too distant past. What
(04:27):
would you have to do to make this a serious race?
And you know, not like there's some people that run
for governor there as a vanity campaign. What are you
going to do?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One totally agree with that, And look, the starting point
is that there are some ingredients that are grounds for optimism.
So in the last election in November twenty twenty four,
ten counties in California flip from blue to red, and
you know, including some significant ones like Fresno County. I'll
be there later today. I'm in the Central Valley today
(04:56):
with our great egg industry, which are this huge supporter
of Fresno County. Fresno's the fifth biggest city in California,
fliped from bluetread along with nine other counties. It's Huntington Beach,
the biggest city in Orange County. That's where I launched
my campaign a couple of weeks ago, because it's so
symbolic just four years ago. For a little bit little
over four years ago, the city council there was six
to one Democrat. Now it's seven zero Republican massive turnaround
(05:20):
there and was just rated the best run city in California.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You look at the number of votes.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That President Trump got in California, that's more than enough
to win in twenty twenty six, which is a midterm
year where you tend to have lower voting turnout. So
if all the Trump voters turn out in twenty twenty six,
I will win. Now, of course that's a big if,
but it's something you can work on to persuade people
that it's worth going out to vote. And then the
(05:48):
final ingredient, and this is really where my focus is
going to be, is just as you've seen across the
country in the Trump years, this massive political realignment with
Latinos and working class voters shifting from Democrat to Republican.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's our opportunity in California.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Latinos are the largest group in California forty percent of
the population, and the working class vote, which the Democrats
have taken for granted, is right there for the taking.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I was in East LA on Monday, sitting down with
working class Latino families, parents and business owners.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
They are sick of all the nonsense.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
They're the people hammered the most by these policies, the
tax increases, the regulations, the climate extremism that tells you
what kind of truck to drive and how to cook
your food. They've had it with all of that stuff,
the nonsense in the schools. So I think that's our opportunity,
and I'm going to really go for it with that
kind of populist message. I think that's the real heart
(06:41):
of this. The theme of my show was positive populism.
I wrote a book a few years ago called Positive Populism.
I think that's how we can pull this off in California.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What's the latest on the wildfires in the La Area,
Pacific Palacades, Alta Dina, If I remember correctly the neighborhoods
that were most devastated, and how do you think that
might have shaken people out of some of the entrenched
politics that they might have embraced for a generation.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's incredibly important because it is just an absolute symbol
of everything that's wrong with California, because it's this combination
of ideological extremism and governing incompetence. Those two things together,
the ideology is what led to the fact that these
fires were so much worse than they need have been
because of the environmental extremism that said you can't clear brush,
(07:34):
you can't manage your land properly. People are fined for
trying to clear brush from their own property, all driven
by their climate extremism. And then you see the incompetence,
of course, the empty reservoir, the fire hydrants with no water,
the fire department that was not deployed properly, on and
on right, and the reason that's so important. And now
(07:54):
you see the incompetence totally exceeding even what we saw before.
Bass saying to President Trump to his face, Yes, we're
going to get on with it and issue permits for
rebuilding and do it in record time. Still, I mean
a few weeks ago is four permits had been issued.
Now I think it's up to the massive number of thirty.
It is an absolute joke. It and exposes how ridiculous
(08:16):
these people are. So Karen Bass. A few weeks ago
she did a press conference where she announced where the
post that she put out said, I have just signed
an executive order streamlining permitting for rebuilding Los Angeles. If
you actually look at what she said, it says she said,
I've just signed an executive order tasking agency heads with
developing paths forward to streamlining permits.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
In other words, it's bs because all you've.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Got from these California politicians is these idiots who have
no clue how to run anything. All they do is
manage their way around the political machine that's being exposed.
And the reason it matters so much that it's in LA,
it's because Los Angeles is the biggest county in California.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Twenty three percent the vote is LA County.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So the fact that that's the place that's been so
directly exposed to the disaster of Democrat rule is incredibly
important and another great ingredient for how we can win here.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Speaking of Steve Hilton, he has announced his candidacy for
governor of California. I was wondering, Steve, because you would
have an ear to the ground, so to speak, on
how things are going with the opposition there, with the
Democrats that you're going to try to unset. The future
of Kamala Harris in California politics. People talk about her
still as possible governor, they talk about her still as
(09:34):
possible presidential candidate. How do you see Karmala's future?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, just in terms of what I'm hearing to take
the first part of your question. What we're hearing from
those close to her and reporters who follow her movements
is that she's been told, in no uncertain terms that
there's really no support for her from the donors from
the Democrat machine for another residential run.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That the support isn't there for that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So if she wants to do anything, it's going to
be governor of California. I would welcome that, because when
people ask me, well, how are you gonna win as
a Republican in California, Here's what I say. The truth is,
we've got majorities in California now who say, for a
long time have been saying it's time for change.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
States going in the wrong direction. All of that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So the candidate who's going to win in twenty twenty six,
regardless of party label, is the change candidate. Kamala Harris
is literally the most implausible change.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Candidate you could ever imagine.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
She's been around in California politics for decades and she's
done nothing of any note where is a single accomplishment
in all her years DA of San Francisco, Attorney General
of California, Senator for California, vice vice president, and a
disastrous presidential candidate. Not once in any of those years,
(10:55):
but she actually delivered anything of value to anybody in
the real world. And so I don't think there's anything
better that would help our chances more than for Kamala
Harris to be the candidate. Plus you'd get I think,
a lot of support right across the country from people
who would love the chance to beat her again.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I love your pitch, and I think that you not
being from California actually makes the pitch really resonate.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Buck and I have talked about this.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I didn't get to go visit the state of California
until I think I was twenty one. I had a
college roommate from there, went out and visited. Buck grew
up in New York City. California was a shimmering city
on a hill, dreamy for a lot of people who
live in many parts of the United States, and I
bet also for kids like you growing up in England,
growing up in Europe. It was a place that people
(11:43):
aspired to go. You can help to tell that story
and bring it back. But when you travel the state,
do you get that sense that there still is that
desire to make California really epitomize and personify the American dream.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh, Clayt, You're so right about that.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
In fact, there's a very specific example of working about
back in the day before when I was working for
David Cameron, he was the leader of the Conservative Party.
I was his chief policy advisor. Before we actually before
he became Prime Minister. The Spectator magazine print magazine in
the UK ran a cover story about the plans that
we were developing, and the headline of the piece was
(12:23):
California Dreaming, and the theme of the article was Steve Hilton,
David Cameron's policy guru. The plans they're developing are all
about making the UK more like California.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
He's inspired by California. He thinks it's the best place
in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Okay, this was twenty years ago, So I mean, is
there a single political advisor anywhere in the world who
would want to make their country more like California today?
Of course, not that shows how far badly off track
we've gotten, But the point is there. Exactly as you
said to me, California represents the ultimate expression of America.
There's a phrase that I used the whole time, California
(12:59):
means to Ama, what America means to the world. So
to me, California represents everything I love about this country.
Ambition and energy and optimism and dynamism and startup hustle
and actually also the rebel spirit the people who made
it here to the West coast and went through the
Sierra Nevada and struggled through all those barriers to get
(13:20):
here and build this amazing place that we have, as
far as I'm concerned, the greatest place in the world, California.
That's an amazing energy that we have, and it's been
crushed by this ridiculous, bossy, bureaucratic, nanny state, bloated government.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
We lift that off. There's nothing that we can't do
in California, and I love that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I'm in love with California in a very very serious way,
and that's why I'm really determined to do this. If
we can turn things around in California, it's not just
going to be great for all of us here, it's
going to be great for the whole country too.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Steve Hilton, where's your website for the campaign? Anybody who
live We are a lot of California listeners. Such a
big state, so many great Republicans behind enemy lines there,
Where do they go?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
So Steve Hilton for Governor dot com. Fr Steve Hilton
for Governor dot com. We would love your support. We're
up against a very big and well funded Democrat machine
the government unions, of course, but I'd love people's time
and energy as well. We've got to really build a
grassroots movement, so you can get involved with us at
the website. Steve Hilton for Governor dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We'll be talking to you more, Steve. Good luck to you,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Fantastic, great to see you. Thank you.
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wanted to play this for you, Buck, because I know
crazy Town continues to find its way into the world
(16:15):
of sports. But even I sometimes hear this and I
can't believe that this is real. This was on ESPN
yesterday Kate Fagan on a show called Around the Horn.
Her final message that she wants to send trans kids
deserve to be playing sports. This is just a sports broadcast.
This is what you would have heard cut seventeen.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Being on this show has been a privilege in a platform,
and I know it's my last time on it, and
I want to say something worthy of that privilege and platform,
and that is this that trans kids deserve.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
To play sports.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Think about what you remember from your time playing sports,
Like ninety nine percent of it is finding that jersey
for the first time, your favorite number, community, joy those
high fives. It's that moment when you have a great
play with a teammate. It's the feeling of belonging and
it does not no gender and trans kids deserve that
the same as everybody else does. And Tony, this space
(17:07):
has on Around the Horn, It's been about diversity and inclusion,
lifting up new voices because sports is joy and sports
is humanity and the more people who have that, the better.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
It's also competition. I think I think sports is competition.
I don't think it's just joy and fairness in competition.
And every trans kid. First of all, I'm gonna probably
upset people here. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't believe that trans kids exist. I don't believe
that you are six years old and you are like, oh,
I'm a girl in a boy's body, just like I
don't believe that six year olds who think they're a
dinosaur or a Jedi are actually speaking the truth. This
is me having raised three kids. Now you're over eighteen,
and you decide that's going to make you happier, that's
a different conversation. But these kids can all play sports.
(17:55):
You play the sport of your gender, and by the way,
if you're really good. We had a ten year old
girl on our boys team. She was the best player.
Pre puberty. That can happen. So this whole idea, like
you're just tuning into sports and you're like, man, I
want to know what's going to happen to the Nick
Celtics series, and then you're getting lectured about trans kid
in sports.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's it's crazy. They can play sports with the gender
that they actually are. It's fine. You want to grow
your hair out long and be called Susan, No problem.
You're still playing with dudes because you're a dude. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
True, but this is what you're missing in the larger world.
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Speaker 2 (19:22):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We had
been talking about this exchange with Bernie. I want to
go beyond just the immediate allegations here of you know,
hypocrisy for Bernie Sanders on this one. And also it's
remarkable this guy, he just he stayed around as long
as he has in Democrat politics. What he's what he's
selling is he is a just a fiction. The whole
(19:43):
thing is an absurdity. And I'll explain why that is
in a second. Clay and I will dive into this,
but first, Yeah, he's on an oligauky tour. He's going
around talking about the oligarchy, which you know, what does
that even mean? Right, It's just just a thing to
manipulate the emotions of not very bright people, which he
(20:03):
does quite well. And this is brought up by Brett Behar,
who is very gentlemanly but will ask the question, right,
he will ask the question he should ask as a
person who is on TV and has the access, but
he does in a gentlemanly fashion. Here he is asking
Bernie Sanders, hey, you're flying around talking about the oligarchy.
Which means the elites. Essentially, these really are are interchangeable terms.
(20:27):
And you fly private everywhere? Is that kind of weird
play it?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
You've gotten criticized from other people. Free Beacon says Bernie
Sanders spent two hundred twenty one thousand on private jets
fighting the Oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders.
That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on
private jet travel over the years.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How do you push back on both of those.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Things when the last time you saw Donald Trump during
a campaign mode at National Airport.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
No, no, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
But he's also not fighting the oligarchy. No.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
And you run a campaign and you do three or
four or five rally is in a week the only
way you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people.
I think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting
line at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people
are waiting. That's the only way you can get around.
No apologies for that. That's what campaign travel is about.
We've done it in the past, We're gonna do it
in the future.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I just point out, Clay that it is actually possible
to get around to a lot of places without flying private.
To start with that, I mean, I'm sure I understand,
of course it's more convenient to fly private. Is that
anyone who has ever done it knows. But beyond that,
I like Brett Bear's point there too, which is, yeah,
but your your whole thing is the elites. You're doing
(21:37):
something that is the ultimate symbol of elitism. Still I
think that, I think really expensive boat and private jet
travel are the two ultra elite things. And he sees
no dissonance with this in his messaging at all.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let's start here, what percentage of people do you think
have ever flown private? Ninety nine point eight percent haven't
ninety nine points seven percent have it? Like, clearly less
than one percent have ever flown in a private plane.
And I'm not talking about like, hey, I'm in a.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Like a a propeller, like a planet jumper, and the
Bahamas doesn't count because that's the only way you can
get from one island to another. And by the way,
those planes might as well be paper airplanes. I'm just saying,
I'm talking about a private jet. It is one in
a thousand at best. Yes, And so I don't now.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Having said that, I don't begrudge people who have the
resources to do it, because typically that's one reason you
bust your ass right because you're val Really, the private
jet travel is about saving time more than it's about
anything else. So because you can get to places that
are way more difficult to get to. I don't disagree
with that argument. But you can't be on a fighting
(22:47):
the oligarchy tour and lecture me that what you want
me to Wait and United and our buddy Jesse Kelly
has talked about this, I think before, but I think
it's a good synthesis. A lot of times Paul politicians
and I will put politicians in both parties for this.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And this is one reason I like Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Want to have the super rich jet setter lifestyle without
having earned that lifestyle themselves. And so they have other
richer people paying for a travel that they can't otherwise
afford themselves. And this is why I really respect a
lot of people that are in this Trump administration. They're
(23:28):
all taking pay cuts to work on behalf of the
country by and large, they are leaving behind jobs that
paid them a lot more to try and give back
to the country. Whether it's Trump, whether it's Best, whether
it's Lutnick, whether it's I mean, you can just RFK Junior.
Probably on some level, the family's very wealthy. You can
just run through a list of these people who are
(23:49):
giving back to the country that otherwise Linda McMahon would
have been. We just talked to Kelly Leffler. All of
these people have independent wealth, and I don't begrudge using
that into pent wealth. But when you use you basically
suck at the teat of the public, or you use
other rich people to elevate your lifestyle and then you
(24:10):
lecture me about how awful they are, I'm sorry, it's indefensible. Well,
but this is also I think that's a perfect pivot
point here into the whole message is a fraud. This
notion that the Democrats stand against oligarchy as a party.
They have more billionaires than we do. They have more
Fortune Fortune fifty or Fortune one hundred companies and CEOs,
(24:34):
et cetera on their side than we do. They have
Wall Street on their side, they have the biggest hedge
fund directors on their side. The Democrats are the party
of the elites, and this is the big lie they
tell is that they're the party of the middle class,
when in reality, the Democrats and this just this, you
can look at the data. Democrats are the party of
(24:54):
people who are so rich that the moronic policies they
push do not count and just make them feel good
about themselves. Right, you know, the illegals are going to
go live with the poor people, so Democrats can be
open borders because oh also maybe they'll be making, you know,
things for them and their factories are working in the
chicken processing plants that they own or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
So it's for the elites. And then it's for the
dependent class, which is government employees by and large, like
federal bureaucrats, and people on various forms of welfare and
state dependency. This is who the Democrats actually. This is
what comprises the modern Democrat at its core, modern Democrat
party and the pretense that somehow they stand to thwart wealth.
(25:35):
I mean, if you look at the richest neighborhoods in America,
they are overwhelmingly not just Democrat majority, they're overwhelmingly Democrat
Democrats strongholds. And you know what does that tell you, right?
I mean, if you go into the richest parts of
New York City, the richest parts of la the richest
parts of Chicago. Everybody sits around talking about how they're
(25:57):
with her, and they voted for Kamala and you know,
they thought that Biden was sharp as attack. So that
is what bothers me so much about the whole Bernie
Sanders scam is that the Democrats are the you know,
you just saw this really kind of creepy photo spread
of Soros's son Alex Soros with Anthony Weiner starting on
(26:18):
that which is which you know, this is like where
do these where do these people? Why do they want
to just inflict their terrible ideas on the rest of us. Also,
I hate this thing of of you know, these heiresses
or rather these ex wives and these uh, these Trustafarians
who come forward with their terrible ideas who have never
actually done anything, and they want to fund all the
(26:39):
all the left wing morons out there who have more
bad ideas for the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I the if you didn't see it, it looks like
an evil villain photo that they post for. I don't know,
I've never I hate you and I have done in
a funny way. You and I have done a few
of these photo shoots before for promotional purposes, and I
just I justies any photo shoot because I'm like, just
take a still shot of some television hit whatever. I
(27:05):
don't like putting on makeup. I don't like getting dressed up.
It is miserable to me.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Co imagine doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
For free, like, not for your job at all. They're like, hey,
you and your wife are gonna get dressed up and
we're gonna do some ridiculous photo shoot. And let me
ask you this. If you were a thirty nine year
old billionaire, would you end up with a forty nine
year old ex wife of what's the guy's name, the
crazy dude in New York Anthony Wiener?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah? Would you you mean the convicted sex criminals? Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Would you want to in some way have your they
have kids? Would you want if you were a thirty
nine year old billionaire to end up with a forty
nine year old woman who has children with a sex
offender convicted? I believe, Anthony Wiener so that your life
forever is connected to him. I just I don't even
understand how that would be possible. You were in New York,
(28:01):
she can you imagine being a single billionaire in New
York City? Like, the girls that you have access to
are the likes of which you've never seen before. Now
maybe maybe you're like, hey, I can't trust all these people,
but to end up with the forty nine year old
ex wife of Anthony Wiener, Like, that's the choice you make.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It it's a political it's a political matter. Though, because
she gives him I think that's probably gives him entree
because remember, Huma Abidin was also a political marriage of sorts.
I'm not saying maybe they loved each other tremendously and
I wasn't in the room, you know, I get it.
But she she was very tough. She was basically Hillary
Clinton's right hand woman, okay, and when Hillary Clinton was
(28:42):
expected to be President of the United States for eight years,
whom a Abdin was a very important person and was
able to build her network among the Democrats who matter
all across the country, the donors, the movers and shakers,
all that stuff. Right. So Anthony Wiener marries into you know, Mary's.
That situation didn't go so well with that marriage, as
we know, for obvious reasons. And a guy named Wiener,
(29:05):
you can't make this up. A guy named Wiener who
was brought down in politics for sending photos of his wiener. Yeah,
there's certainly anority there. I mean, and then you marry
his ex wife. I mean, that's what I like. I'm
just she may be the greatest human who's ever existed.
This is he He is a guy who he's just
(29:26):
going to be the continuation of Sorrows, which has used
billions of dollars to inflict the worst ideas on the
American people. But to have so many people feeding at
the trough that they'll never turn around and look at
you and say, you know, what you're doing is just
going to result in, you know, horrible stuff for everybody.
You know. Does anybody who is funding like BLM protest
movements and to the BLM organization do they take any
(29:48):
ownership of the fact that now a solid majority, like
sixty five percent of the American people say BLM did
nothing to help race relations and made everything worse. Does
anyone take ownership for that? No, Sorrows money behind a
lot of these organis Soros money behind the worst ideas
in the country. But he marries Huma Aviden because she
has the rolodex to connect him to the people who
matter within that movement. Still, I can't believe I'm actually
(30:10):
going to do this. Buck In George Soros's defense, he
has awful politics, I can't believe I'm going to say this,
but at least he made his own money. I mean,
I don't agree with his politics, but at least he
went out and made billions of dollars in the marketplace
at large through capitalism. Now I think, unfortunately he's inflicted awful,
(30:30):
awful results on the United States with his endorsement of
soft on crime district attorneys. But now his son is
just inheriting billions of dollars, has never proven to have
any talent at anything in the world, and suddenly he's
like the Democrat powerbroker. I mean, his photo is with
every prominent Democrat in the entire country. They basically all
(30:55):
show up and shake.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Him for the money tree and beg him for his
grace and his cash.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And it's kind of gross.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And again, this is why I respect the people who
actually made their own money and have decided, hey, I
made my money. Now I'm going into politics more than
the people who either inherit it or are just trying
to trade on other wealthy people to have a lifestyle
they otherwise haven't earned.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And I just bring it back to the Bernie Sanders
Tour for imbeciles, which is what's going on right now
with AOC. Right, they're like, yeah, like free everything for everybody.
The numbers don't work. We are running out of room
to keep putting this stuff on the national credit card
and hoping that our dollar doesn't get destroyed. Okay, they
can't keep doing We cannot mathematically. And it's not just
(31:43):
me saying clay and you saying it and Republicans, it's
people like Elon Musk who have an understanding of numbers
and where things are going structurally over time. We cannot
keep doing this. They want to do the thing that
will hurdle us toward insolvency faster than anything, which is
create a universe versal pay or you know, a universal
Medicare system whatever it is that they're calling it today,
(32:03):
universal healthcare. And the thing about Bernie Sanders I find
so fascinating is he shouts down the oligarchy. But who's
who's writing the checks to pay for the private jets?
That's that's yes, of course, yes, yes, rich people. He
is a little tool of rich people who are make
believe socialists from their mansions in Brentwood and the Upper
(32:26):
West Side. That's what really Bernie Sanders is all about.
And then other people who, instead of blaming the rich
for all their problems, should take some accountability and say, hey,
what am I really doing with myself? What am I
really contributing to my community in my day to day life?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
How about also climate change, which they now just vanished
talking about. You notice that's kind of vanished as a
talking point. Climate change hasn't been talked about very much recently.
But the amount of jet fuel exhaust the amount of
ozone depletion, whatever you want to say, from a private
jet is off the charts. And so it's not even
(33:03):
just the convenience argument. It's also a way to manute.
You're destroying the planet.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And this was al Gore's argument too, whenever somebody would
point out that he was flying on private jets everywhere,
and it was well, it's really important. It's more important
that I'm out there spreading the message about climate change
than I actually adhere to the stuff that I preach. Right, Well,
people can see through that who have the ability to
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of you out there to know there is Mother's Day
on Sunday. So many amazing moms that are out there.
We appreciate all of you who are listening. Also for
people like Buck who are recent fathers. Thank you to
all the moms that have young children out there. But
(35:36):
a reminder to all of the husbands. You are on
the hook for Mother's Day for your kids who are
too young to realize that it is Mother's Day. If
you are a new father like Buck, it is important
for you to realize that you are now having to
do double duty, not only for your own mom, but
(35:57):
for your kid's own mom. And they will never these
kids realize what you were doing until one day they
grow up and they have to realize, oh, I got
to cover two different directions now, mom, my own mom
and also the mom of your kids.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It is a huge day. Do not screw it up.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
For all of you out there, Buck, this is your
first ever Mother's Day with Carrie as she is now
a mom, So you guys will have fun on Sunday.
Laura Travis, thank you for all the great mother and
you do for all three of our boys and Buck.
Are you excited? Are you prepared for your first ever
Mother's Day as a dad?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Absolutely? Ferry's the greatest mom already. It's very exciting. And
my mom is a fantastic mom as well. So yeah,
thank you Mom. I'm in to say thank you mom too. Yeah,
and thank you missus Travis for giving Clay life. Thank
you missus sexon for giving me life was. It was
very nice, very very nice, appreciative, very appreciative. We appreciate
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