March 6, 2025 • 36 mins
KS Sen. Roger Marshall, MD, on the 90-10 issue of boys competing against girls in sports, DOGE and Elon Musk, and Trump's Executive Order on dismantling the Department of Education. Hamilton has cancelled its run at the Kennedy Center because of President Trump. Clay thinks all musicals are awful, but didn't mind Hamilton. Buck scoffs, remembers his bad date seeing Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Trump is charged with racism for calling Sen. Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas". The whole Fauxcahontas nickname originated because she claimed to be Cherokee Indian. Clay's First Amendment and boobs CNN booting. Clay Travis can't be cancelled! Buck Sexton reminds him about his Gladiator II review.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome now number three Klay Travis buck Sexton Show, Thursday Edition.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've been
diving into a massive amount of the big stories out
there right now and we're joined now on Capitol Hill,
I believe by Senator Roger Marshall from the great state
of Kansas.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Senator, a lot to dive into with you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But earlier this week we talked with Majority Leader thuone
and we've been talking about Gavin Newsom and his potential
attempts to walk back the idea of men identifying as
women being able to compete in women's sports. Newsom, today,
Governor of California, called it completely unfair. Yet every single
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Democrat senator voted to allow it earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We're even you surprised that uniformly they were behind that idea.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I wasn't surprised because they've been very consistently against this.
They just seem to be wallowing in their own pig barn,
I guess, and they can't get off of this issue. Look,
this poll is more like ninety five to five back home,
ninety five of kans and don't think it's right boys
to compete against girls. This is not an eighty twenty issue.
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It's at least a ninety to ten issue. And I
think that's why you see Gavin Newsom, who thinks he's
the next president of the United States, is saying, gosh,
I got to walk away from this one. But our Democrats,
I'm just gonna say it, they've they've got a psychosis
right now. Not shake this Trump de arrangement syndrome. This
should be a very easy issue to get off of
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for them, and they just they can't stop. They're in
this hole. They can't stop digging.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Senator, appreciate you being with us. It's back.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think first time we've got a chance to talk
to you on the show. So goes and what has
been accomplished, what will be accomplished. I know you're looking
into this, you're involved with and have had recent conversations
with Elon Musk, who's filled you in on what's going
on with his team. Can you bring us up to
speed because there's what has been reported and then some
of this stuff, some of the numbers get a little
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bit adjusted about what does has done thus far, and
then what the plans are as you know, them, and
you know, to the best of your ability, what's confirmed
so far. You know, what what can we know is solid?
Is the one hundred billion dollars of savings, that is
that rock solid?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Bring us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, Buck, I think it's solid in the sense if
the swamp will do what we've exposed. So look at
it this way. Elon Musk is not out there looking
at people's Social Security numbers. He's too busy for that.
He has chosen some people that are now full time
employees of the federal government. They went through all that
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process you're supposed to, and they're in there shining a
flashlight and they they so they find some fraud, waste
of use, frankly, and confidence. They go back to those
agency heads and say, hey, there some money, here's some opportunities.
Why in the world we have two million federal employees
but over four million credit cards. Why in your agency
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you have ten thousand employees, but twenty thousand software subscriptions
to the same company. So I think that those will
come to fruition. But e basually we need to go
back to a recision process, and that's where the President
makes a request to rescind this money. And you've seen
these lists of things, and then Congress gets to vote
on those recisions, and we'll see if the Democrats can
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stay together and continue to vote against some of this fraud, waste,
and abuse. In speaking with Elon just yesterday, he truly
believes that there's fifteen to twenty five percent of government
spending is waste. I think more than that. I'll give
you a quick example. The Government Accounting Office, not Marshall,
not Elon Musk. The Government Accounting Office says last year
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the federal government issued two hundred and fifty billion dollars
of improper checks. Not froud waste reviews, just improper checks,
two hundred and fifty billion dollars. So we're trying to
track down things like that disguise the limit.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Here we're talking to Senator Roger Marshall. I think the
last time we had John Senator, we were up in
Milwaukee getting ready for the RNC. Appreciate you joining us again.
Let's go into we were just having a discussion Buck
and I were about the decision to have kids having surgeries.
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That there's a new study out that's the precipitating factor
of discussion here, saying that under eighteen surgeries that changed
the gender in some way. Gender change surgery is actually
incredibly destructive to kids and that they don't actually have
better outcomes as adults. I bet in the state of Kansas,
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it's similar to my home state of Tennessee. If I
took one of my boys they're all under eighteen, to
get a tattoo in addition to their mom killing me,
it would be a crime. I can't allow their skin
to be altered because they're miners. How in the world
is this permissible for parents to sign off on and
for doctors to do. I know you have a medical degree.
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Does this seem as crazy to you as it does
to both Buck and Eye?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, Clay and Buck. This this is absolutely a child abuse. Again,
I'm an obgyn. I'm just not a doctor. I'm an
obq a N. I've had to work on some young ladies,
girls born with with ambiguous genitally. I want to go
into the details, but it's a very painful surgery to
try to fix things, any type of surgery. You know,
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young ladies I've known and older women have had mathdectomies.
They have pain the rest of their life. They get lymphedema,
the blood doesn't drain right any of these surgeries. Anyone
that's gone through enough surgeries knows that there's gonna be
chronic pain because of this, and my guess is it
will lead to many, many more surgery. So I think
this from a from a child abuse standpoint, from a
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physician standpoint of doing no harm, I don't know why
anyone can do this. I'm I can't believe that the
Governor of Kansas dtot de bill that would have prevented
this from happening as well, and in the middle anguish. Look,
I feel for these people that feel like they should
be the opposite sex. I mean, there's something going on there.
They need some help, but let's not let them do
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something that they're reversible. You know, a young a mom
and bring in their teenage daughter to me and you know,
talking about frankly formiscuity and pregnancy, and I would just
I would talk to them both. Look, you don't want
this poetical permanent scar tissue. Once you get a tattoo,
it never goes away. If you get an STD, you've
become infertile for the rest of your life. So these
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surgeries they leave them infertile. Of obviously, and the medical
the medicines they give them lots of times also cause
in fertility that's not reversible, and a whole lot of
other changes. There's nothing right about this, I just yet.
Can anyone look me in the eye and say that
they think this is a good idea? I don't know
where it came from.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Speaking to Senator right now, out of pardon me, Clay,
take this for a second. I got a problem at
your piece, Senator Marshall from Kansas. As you look at
the battle going forward over whether or not the budget
priorities of President Trump are going to follow the Senate
direction or the House direction, what can you tell us
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the latest on those proposals. Do you think it's going
to be one bill? Do you think it's going to
be multiple bills? What should we know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
About how this is going to end up being reconciled
going forward and the timeframe behind it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Look, I think there could still be a second and
third bite of the apple, but we need to focus
right now on giving the president a win. What he's
asking is to make his tax cuts permanent. If we don't,
then it's going to mean thousands of dollars to hard
working families. If we don't make those tax cuts permanent,
it'll mean trillions of dollars of lost income to America.
(08:00):
So we need to make the tax cuts permittent in
this first, big, beautiful bill. So we're going to take
the House bill and try to improve it. So we're
going to try to make the tax cuts permanent. The
House does a nice job, given the President enough money
to fund building the wall and also the money to
get rid of these criminal, violent aliens that are in
the country as well, plus up the military sum as well.
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So I think we got to take what we can get.
President Reagan said this, take eighty percent if you can
get it. I think this will get ninety percent of
what we wanted, and then we're going to have to
come back and hopefully find more cuts. Well even or not,
the Senate wants to cut more money than the House does,
so we're trying to figure out if there's a way
to cut more money. And I talked about these recisions earlier.
To me, this is all one problem. They're all woven together.
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What can we do to work towards a balanced budget.
But we'll take the House bill and see if we
can approve it. Over here on the Senate side, come
back and take a second bite at the apple on
some of those other issues that President Trump wants us to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Get at center.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Marshall, I'm back and now I'll be able to hear
your answers. Sorry he came out there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
For a second.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Don't want to have an interview where I can't hear
the other side. Tell me what you think about the
executive order that is supposed to come down imminently on
I guess disassembling the Department of Education. It's not really
clear to me what exactly is going to be in
it because it hasn't been released, but I'm sure you're
up on it. Is this going to happen, and why
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is it? If it does happen, why is it the
right move?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Look, I think that most of us, especially conservatives, saying
that education should be controlled at the local level with
parents and their local school board. Because the federal government
is controlling so many of the dollars, they also have
rules and regulations that go along with that. What I
expect this executive order to do is to have Secretary
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McMahon present a plan to Congress to say this is
how we disassemble the Department of Education. Now, look, this
is a sad day for me in the sense that
President I helped start this Department of Education, but it's
just it's out of control. President Eisenhower also said that
you would rule the day when the federal government was
giving money to universities and the schools as well. So
(10:10):
I think this shield present a policy. I think there's
a limit to what he can do with an executive order,
and then it's going to be up to Congress to
act on this. But whatever he can do within the
constitutional limits of his abilities. They are an executive branch.
I think they're going to push everything they can to
the state level. You I think he can do school
choice through an executive order, but we need I need
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to check that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You were Tuesday in the House chamber for Donald Trump's speech.
What did you think of the speech and what did
you think of Democrat behavior? Based on being there in person,
we're told it was even more egregious in person than
it was for those of us watching on television.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, a couple of thoughts. You know, I can feel
this momentum from back home that when the night Donald
Trump was elected, you could just literally fill this big
shift we call America turning in the right direction. I've
never been more bullish on America than I am today
that our better days are ahead of us. And you saw,
I think his cabinet. Did you see the interaction the
body language of his cabinet members up front. That's really
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different than any I've seen. And I've just been up
here for eight years. But these people are godly men
and women. They have their own Bible study. I mean,
these folks are focused on America first. Now let's contrast
that to the Democrat side. This was rude. You know,
I suffered through four years of Biden. The first lady
Missus Biden is introduced, we stand up and politely applaud her.
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The people he's chosen, that Biden chose to come and
celebrate their lives. There were great stories, all of them,
most of them, and we stood up and applotted them.
But when the Democrats wouldn't get up and applaud for
a young Boyce who survived Braiden cancer, the Secret Service
was deputizing him. Another young man is life dream to
go to West Point, and they announced that in front
of every everybody as well. You know, I understand that
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they don't like President Trump. They are mistaken on the policies.
Though eighty percent of Americans, I'm going to back up
probably seventy percent of Americans. I don't want to exaggerate,
seventy percent of Americans at least support President Trump's agenda.
If you take them one at a time, seventy percent
of America support those agenda items. The Democrats again are
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wallowing there in a pig sty, if you will, and
they just can't get out. But it was an embarrassment.
It was worse than what you saw on TV. Very
petty to see these little signs flashed in front of us.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No doubt a Senator will appreciate you, and we happy
to have you on anytime. Keep up the good fight
and condolences on your Kansas City Chiefs going down. I
know of Kansas City. I know you're a big Chiefs fan.
That was a tough one for you.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I appreciate that. And my Jayhawks and Wildcats Kansas
schools aren't doing very well either. We'll live to fight
another day. Thanks for giving us a voice, Mike, Kansas.
Love listening to you guys. Thank you so much, have
a great day.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That's Senator Marshall, Great State of Kansas, solid representative for
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So fired up Buck to dive right into all of
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
I want to jump into this right away.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That's why I got excited about this, because I think
this is one of those issues where you and I
disagree vociferously, We disagree strenuously. Hamilton has canceled. It's you know,
the Broadway show. Hamilton has canceled its run at the
Kennedy Center in what is being taken as a hit
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at Donald Trump because he took control of the Performing
Arts Center's board of trustees. Our show, this is a
quote our show simply cannot, in good conscience participate and
be a part of this new culture that is being
imposed on the Kennedy Center. You know, this is the
Lynn Manuel Miranda production. I just want to point out
to everybody, Hamilton sucks. It has always sucked. It is horrible.
(15:51):
It is not good. And I don't even care about
the power I'm talking about artistically. I don't care that
it made a billion dollars, so did Cats. Hamilton is garbage.
It should go in French a lapoubelle. It is no good,
and everyone should just remember that. I just wanted to
trash Hamilton because I watched it on YouTube and it
was the worst thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I went and watched it on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Let me just say this I am, and then this
is I'm gonna get I know, I'm gonna get lit up.
I hate musicals. I don't like any musical. I understand
that some of you out there are like, oh, musicals
are amazing. Every time someone sings, I just it takes
me completely out of whatever story is going on because
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no one actually and I understand that maybe I just
want too much realism. No one ever actually sings anywhere,
so I hate all musicals within the context of.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
That, so Clay is a philistine. Put that aside for
a second.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
All musicals, by and large would be better if they
did not exist. The world would be better, in my opinion,
with no musicals. I just want actual plays.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, just want more.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Solo time for the flute.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's trip.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But within the context of understanding that all musicals are awful,
I thought, as all musicals are awful, Hamilton was higher
than the average musical performance.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
This is like, this is like if Gavin Newsom gave
his Broadway review of Hamilton, You're like, I don't it's
not my review.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is I hate all musicals. My wife is afraid to
try to get me to go to a musical. Okay,
I don't hate concerts. I hate musicals. But Hamilton was
not the worst musical that I've ever seen. The worst
musical I've ever seen is Headwig in The Angry Inch.
But Hamilton, which I saw in person, and I was traumatized.
(17:43):
I don't know if you know what that's about. It's
actually about a sex change operation.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
There you go. No, I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I got taken to it. It was not my choice.
It was a date.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It was a date that you know I should not
have gone on. But Hamilton is trash. I just like
to say it over and over again because I've always
said it and people disagree with me, but they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's where they have that great line in the succession
where they say what kind of party is it? He's like,
it's a party where you can admit that that Hamilton
actually wasn't any good.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
The best line in the whole series.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Amazing line.
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Of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We are rolling through the first edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't know if you saw this, but Elizabeth Warren
getting called Pocahontas as it was very well done by
Trump ad living the funniest in my opinion. I know
we've debated this before. I think clearly the funniest nickname
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that anyone has ever been given. But did you see this?
A Reuter's reporter came out and said that this was
super racist of Trump. And I want to make sure
that I read and ridicule this woman, because this is
a crazy take. Uh Nandida bos whose biography says and
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and community notes very fun. This is the White House
correspondent for Reuters Reuter.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's big news organization.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
She says on her account, facts not opinions, Northwestern grad.
I could give you her email address because it's in
her bio, but I am going to be kind and
I am not going to allow you guys to absolutely
flood her email with hysterical comments. I don't want that
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to happen. I'm trying to be kind here, she tweeted Buck.
Pocahontist first racial slur in a joint address. The reader's note,
I thought you would like this. Buck Community Notes says
Elizabeth Warren claimed to be a Native American and was
honored for being a woman of color at Harvard. This
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earned her the nickname Pocahontas. President Trump's use of the
nickname highlighted her absurdity and misrepresentation.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It then is a link.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Okay, shouldn't this be an actual still way bigger story
that Elizabeth Warren has to answer for more frequently. In
other words, the satire and ridicule that Trump is heaping
upon her, far from being racist, is actually ridiculing her
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because she owes her entire career to a claim that
she is Native American. She then, in an effort to
prove that she was Native American, shared a DNA test
that showed Buck she was one one thousand, twenty fourth
Native American one slash one twenty fourth, which is actually
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less Native American than the average white person living in
America today is. In other words, most of us, probably me,
maybe Buck as well, are more Native American than Elizabeth
Warren is. She wrote a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow.
She claimed that she was Native American because of her
(22:02):
cheekbones and excuse me, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Excuse me, important detail. She plagiarized a cook named Pow
Wow Chow. She stole a Julia Child's recipe, renamed it
under her pow Wow Chow, and then went on the warpath.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh that's good, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But she got her start in teaching at law schools
by claiming to be a minority. I not only is
this I think a very funny nickname. How about the
fact that this Reuters reporter, who claims that she only
deals in facts not opinions, says that Trump calling her
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Pocahontas is racist, like the standard for racism. You remember,
I actually feel sorry for this woman. Do you remember
Rachel doles Albuck the yes, the white woman who claimed
to be black and was the head of I think
like the Spokane Washington NAACP. We've got a big audience.
By the way, good recall with the Spokane Yes. I
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think that's correct. I thank you for everybody listening out
there in Spokane. We love you guys. So it would
not be racist to call her Harriet Tubman. It would
actually be very funny because she's not actually black. So
if I called her a modern day Harriet Tubman. First
of all, it's not an insult Harriet Tubman. They were
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trying to put her on the twenty dollars bill to
kick Andy Andrew Jackson off.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I don't know what happened with that. Do you remember
that that stories she's a heroic American icon.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Indeed, but if you were white and you claim to
be black, it wouldn't be racist for me to call
you Harriet Tubman. It would actually be funny because you're
not actually black. Trump's ridicule of Pocahontas of Elizabeth Warren
actually just reinforces for me what a complete free pass
she got from a total why. And it had me thinking,
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what is the worst lie that a Democrat in the
Senate has gotten away with? Because I think it's Elizabeth Warren.
But the guy who claimed Blumenthal totally lied about being
do you remember this, Buck Blumenthal, senator from Connecticut. I
believe totally lied about going to Vietnam and being under
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fire and all these things, and nobody talks about that either. Like,
there are a lot of deep lies that have been
allowed on the Democrat side. People just stop talking about it.
How about our Buddy Swallwell sleeping with a Chinese spy.
Like a lot of these stories that should be disqualifying,
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Just vanish.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Clay, You're just you're just doing like the Democrat great
hit all. He's like, he's like, he's like, Pocahontas is
a fraud.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Jay? That that that Teddy Kennedy let a woman drown
in the back of his car.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But some of the stuff, in other words, that you
get away with, and I'm talking about in your public life,
that should be integral to your overall bio. Elizabeth Warren
would have had no career if she hadn't lied about
being Native American Bluementhal tries to use his service to
justify his election. When you lie about basic fundamental aspects
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of your life that are easily refuted to me, that
should remain a bigger story. Instead, Trump's getting attacked for
making fun of Pocahontas.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You know what, It's not a bigger story anymore, Clay. Honestly,
Elizabeth Warren just not not powerful enough in the Democrat
Party to get too much focus or attention. You know,
you just think she's just totally irrelevant. So I think
she's about her anymore. That's exactly right. And I also
think that nobody truly gets upset about the about the
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Pocahontas line. This is just people who feel very sad
about what's going on with Trump and all of the
winning for Trump and the people who voted for him
and for the country.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Whether Democrats like it or not.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Uh, they're going to say these things like it's racist,
but that doesn't that doesn't actually add up, and I
would I would agree with you. It also is a
reminder of how much things have changed in the in
the Trump era. You have the actual president calling a
city US senator Pocahontas as a term of mockery. It
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was not it was not that long ago, where much
more minor. I mean, I think when do you think
the the canceled for minor slight power of the left
was at its absolute apex. I'm not talking about of course,
during COVID they gave us a trial of of pure
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communism and authoritarianism.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was madness.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
But I mean, if you said something that you didn't
even mean to be offensive, you could still get tossed.
I mean, you know, like you've different sports writers. I
remember who wrote things that got them fired, And sometimes
you'd look at it and you'd say, hold on a second,
that actually isn't racist at all.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The last time.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's a good question because I do think cancel culture
has feeded faded substantially, and you guys out there listening
may be able to think of it. It's a good question, buck,
who is the last person to get fired for something
that they said? Not like Joy Reid got fired because
nobody watched her show and she was a moron. Eventually
they started a fair reason to be fired from your
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tarration shows a fairly job, Like, if you're not good
at your job, I think you should be fired. So
I'm not talking about you get fired because not enough
people are consuming your work. I mean you got fired
because of one sentence or one story or one tweet.
(27:53):
I don't It's actually a really good question who. And
I don't mean like somebody at a local post office,
I mean somebody in the public arena. But I do
think it's faded even for normal jobs.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Which is good.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You shouldn't get fired for something that you post on
Facebook if you work at I don't know, a local
fire department. Did you see this story back by the
way I texted it to you. But in my hometown
of Nashville, did you see the fireman who teed off
on BLM and they offered to settle his case for
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one hundred thousand dollars. The local Nashville politician said, no,
that's too much. He went to trial and he won
one point eight million dollars because they had reprimanded him
for something that he posted anti the BLM protests on Facebook.
And so I think by that's yeah, amen, that's a
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win win for all. It's huge to love that story,
and I love that the politicians were all wrong, like, oh,
we're not going to settle this for one hundred thousand dollars.
They should all get fired for being morons. But it
does feel to me like we've come through the cancel
culture fires by and large, and nobody is really getting
canceled for one statement. Roseanne obviously is one of the
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ones in the last few years that I remember where
she made fun of Valerie Jarrett.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What do you care?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Like, why should she not be able to be on
a television show because she made fun of Valerie Jarret
in anyway?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I say that first, people can say awful things
about me if they wanted to, and they're on television
shows like you shouldn't lose your job because you ridicule
somebody online.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I can't even think of somebody. Can you.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We'll go to break and I'm gonna check mentions. You
can you know at Clay Travis, you can send me
a mention. I do think it's a sign of positivity
and also of Trump changing the culture that much of
the cancel culture universe has collapsed.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It really has.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It's a much better thing for the country. It was
a panic, and you saw this a lot with the
way that they would go after people in the media. Clay,
you and I have both witnessed this and at different
times experienced it ourselves. They try to create a frenzy
and they try to get immediate action by making it
seem like the transgression was much more serious than it
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was and to anybody really, because once you fired somebody,
you're not bringing them back. You're not going to go
back on that right. People have realized that, you know,
unless you're talking about something that's truly indefensible and crazy,
and even one's own audience and one's own side would
find it to be. So the notion of getting somebody
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can because they say something offhand that you know, struck
some as a little too riskue. That's just not the country.
I'm sorry. I thought this was America. That's not the
country I wanted to live in.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So I will say buck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The positive is if they come after you and they fail.
And this is what we were talking about this last
night at our dinner, when they tried to come after
me over the First Amendment. In Boobs line, you actually
come through all the fire and it really drives them
even more insane because I truly believe this. I think
I think I am uncancellable. I think I can say
whatever I want, and I think I cannot be canceled.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Look at this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I mean this.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I think the audience is like, you're uncancellable when your
audience will have your back no matter what, and they
know you're not gonna ben the knee and apologize. And
that's one thing that I have learned. I think we've
moved through cancel culture. But I don't think there's anything
I could say that would get me canceled.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I really mean that. Now people might be angry.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You're still here and you said Gladiator too was a
good movie, so I think we've already tested this out.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm a little bit nervous to even check my mentions
because I said all musicals are trash, and I know
I'm getting lit up.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I know some of you out.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
There if you think the flute orchestra mafia comes out
for you once you mess with show tunes and Broadway,
Tim Walls is going to be all up in your mentions,
very upset, sim Walls.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Tim Walls definitely loves musicals, oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I think he's probably practicing for the HMS Pinafore right now,
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
We do.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
We've got pandemonium breaking out all.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Your connect corrections that are coming down.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Let me start, cannot should I start?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'll oh yeah, Well, you gotta hop on this hand grenade.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Sir yes, go for it.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So would I said, no one had been canceled in
recent memory. I neglected to realize or remember. My apologies.
Ryan Gurdusky just got canceled by CNN like three months ago,
and he's he joined you.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
He is in the Brotherhood of the band.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
But he's legitimately our podcast network. And I just apologies
to the Ryan Gardusky fan base and all of his
family because I'm like, I can't even.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nobody's been canceled in forever.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And then I went into my mentions and all of
you are like, hey, you idiot, he's in your podcast network.
He made a joke about about a bomb and like
a pager exploding for a flagrantly anti Israel panelist on
UH on CNN, and they canceled him off CNN. So
that that is the last guy that I can remember.
(34:32):
Now a lot of you are sending me emails about
people in the past several years. We're not disputing that,
but I did totally whiff on forgetting one of our.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Own pod Well. We didn't cancel him. Uh, in fact,
probably was better for his career. Hired us. Yeah, we
hired him.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So we did the opposite of a cancel we responded
to cancel culture by hiring but I certainly whiffed on
that one. And you should go into my mentions right now.
Buck the musical they are. They are singing at my funeral,
the musical fans all throughout the entire landscape of musical theater.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So Clay Clay's has kicked the hornet's nest and they
are now all buzzing in tune as they are upset
at his musical take. Here but wheels on twitter on
x writes, Clay weird hill to die on, especially when
the hills are alive with the sound of music well played.
(35:30):
That I mean, some of you are very witty and
the comments are going to be outstanding. Would it be
for me to say that musicals are overwhelmingly more popular
with women than men. Would that be a fair comment
to make that musicals are more popular with women than.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Men overwhelmingly, Like the number of women that like musicals
far exceeds the number of men that like musicals. That
would be a fair analysis, right, Like I would say
seventy percent of musical fans are women and thirty and
they're all gay.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
But that's okay, There's nothing wrong with it. Musicals are awful.
Just tell me what you think. I don't need to
hear you sing what you think.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Just tell me, hey, this is every musical would be
better if they just talk to like normal people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I would be able to follow it. I would be
far more interested.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Tomorrow we're gonna talk about end of Ukraine War and
DOGE cuts to save the federal government's massive expenditures from
turning our economy into oblivion, and less conversation about musical
per se.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But I don't send this.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I don't know I was gonna say, send us your talkback,
send us your emails. Funny ones will be read on
the air, and memes of Clay Shirtless playing the flute
never gets old of parent
Welcome now number three Klay Travis buck Sexton Show, Thursday Edition.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've been
diving into a massive amount of the big stories out
there right now and we're joined now on Capitol Hill,
I believe by Senator Roger Marshall from the great state
of Kansas.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Senator, a lot to dive into with you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But earlier this week we talked with Majority Leader thuone
and we've been talking about Gavin Newsom and his potential
attempts to walk back the idea of men identifying as
women being able to compete in women's sports. Newsom, today,
Governor of California, called it completely unfair. Yet every single
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Democrat senator voted to allow it earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We're even you surprised that uniformly they were behind that idea.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, I wasn't surprised because they've been very consistently against this.
They just seem to be wallowing in their own pig barn,
I guess, and they can't get off of this issue. Look,
this poll is more like ninety five to five back home,
ninety five of kans and don't think it's right boys
to compete against girls. This is not an eighty twenty issue.
(01:19):
It's at least a ninety to ten issue. And I
think that's why you see Gavin Newsom, who thinks he's
the next president of the United States, is saying, gosh,
I got to walk away from this one. But our Democrats,
I'm just gonna say it, they've they've got a psychosis
right now. Not shake this Trump de arrangement syndrome. This
should be a very easy issue to get off of
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for them, and they just they can't stop. They're in
this hole. They can't stop digging.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Senator, appreciate you being with us. It's back.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think first time we've got a chance to talk
to you on the show. So goes and what has
been accomplished, what will be accomplished. I know you're looking
into this, you're involved with and have had recent conversations
with Elon Musk, who's filled you in on what's going
on with his team. Can you bring us up to
speed because there's what has been reported and then some
of this stuff, some of the numbers get a little
(02:08):
bit adjusted about what does has done thus far, and
then what the plans are as you know, them, and
you know, to the best of your ability, what's confirmed
so far. You know, what what can we know is solid?
Is the one hundred billion dollars of savings, that is
that rock solid?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Bring us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, Buck, I think it's solid in the sense if
the swamp will do what we've exposed. So look at
it this way. Elon Musk is not out there looking
at people's Social Security numbers. He's too busy for that.
He has chosen some people that are now full time
employees of the federal government. They went through all that
(02:47):
process you're supposed to, and they're in there shining a
flashlight and they they so they find some fraud, waste
of use, frankly, and confidence. They go back to those
agency heads and say, hey, there some money, here's some opportunities.
Why in the world we have two million federal employees
but over four million credit cards. Why in your agency
(03:08):
you have ten thousand employees, but twenty thousand software subscriptions
to the same company. So I think that those will
come to fruition. But e basually we need to go
back to a recision process, and that's where the President
makes a request to rescind this money. And you've seen
these lists of things, and then Congress gets to vote
on those recisions, and we'll see if the Democrats can
(03:32):
stay together and continue to vote against some of this fraud, waste,
and abuse. In speaking with Elon just yesterday, he truly
believes that there's fifteen to twenty five percent of government
spending is waste. I think more than that. I'll give
you a quick example. The Government Accounting Office, not Marshall,
not Elon Musk. The Government Accounting Office says last year
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the federal government issued two hundred and fifty billion dollars
of improper checks. Not froud waste reviews, just improper checks,
two hundred and fifty billion dollars. So we're trying to
track down things like that disguise the limit.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Here we're talking to Senator Roger Marshall. I think the
last time we had John Senator, we were up in
Milwaukee getting ready for the RNC. Appreciate you joining us again.
Let's go into we were just having a discussion Buck
and I were about the decision to have kids having surgeries.
(04:27):
That there's a new study out that's the precipitating factor
of discussion here, saying that under eighteen surgeries that changed
the gender in some way. Gender change surgery is actually
incredibly destructive to kids and that they don't actually have
better outcomes as adults. I bet in the state of Kansas,
(04:50):
it's similar to my home state of Tennessee. If I
took one of my boys they're all under eighteen, to
get a tattoo in addition to their mom killing me,
it would be a crime. I can't allow their skin
to be altered because they're miners. How in the world
is this permissible for parents to sign off on and
for doctors to do. I know you have a medical degree.
(05:13):
Does this seem as crazy to you as it does
to both Buck and Eye?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, Clay and Buck. This this is absolutely a child abuse. Again,
I'm an obgyn. I'm just not a doctor. I'm an
obq a N. I've had to work on some young ladies,
girls born with with ambiguous genitally. I want to go
into the details, but it's a very painful surgery to
try to fix things, any type of surgery. You know,
(05:41):
young ladies I've known and older women have had mathdectomies.
They have pain the rest of their life. They get lymphedema,
the blood doesn't drain right any of these surgeries. Anyone
that's gone through enough surgeries knows that there's gonna be
chronic pain because of this, and my guess is it
will lead to many, many more surgery. So I think
this from a from a child abuse standpoint, from a
(06:01):
physician standpoint of doing no harm, I don't know why
anyone can do this. I'm I can't believe that the
Governor of Kansas dtot de bill that would have prevented
this from happening as well, and in the middle anguish. Look,
I feel for these people that feel like they should
be the opposite sex. I mean, there's something going on there.
They need some help, but let's not let them do
(06:22):
something that they're reversible. You know, a young a mom
and bring in their teenage daughter to me and you know,
talking about frankly formiscuity and pregnancy, and I would just
I would talk to them both. Look, you don't want
this poetical permanent scar tissue. Once you get a tattoo,
it never goes away. If you get an STD, you've
become infertile for the rest of your life. So these
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surgeries they leave them infertile. Of obviously, and the medical
the medicines they give them lots of times also cause
in fertility that's not reversible, and a whole lot of
other changes. There's nothing right about this, I just yet.
Can anyone look me in the eye and say that
they think this is a good idea? I don't know
where it came from.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Speaking to Senator right now, out of pardon me, Clay,
take this for a second. I got a problem at
your piece, Senator Marshall from Kansas. As you look at
the battle going forward over whether or not the budget
priorities of President Trump are going to follow the Senate
direction or the House direction, what can you tell us
(07:26):
the latest on those proposals. Do you think it's going
to be one bill? Do you think it's going to
be multiple bills? What should we know.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
About how this is going to end up being reconciled
going forward and the timeframe behind it.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Look, I think there could still be a second and
third bite of the apple, but we need to focus
right now on giving the president a win. What he's
asking is to make his tax cuts permanent. If we don't,
then it's going to mean thousands of dollars to hard
working families. If we don't make those tax cuts permanent,
it'll mean trillions of dollars of lost income to America.
(08:00):
So we need to make the tax cuts permittent in
this first, big, beautiful bill. So we're going to take
the House bill and try to improve it. So we're
going to try to make the tax cuts permanent. The
House does a nice job, given the President enough money
to fund building the wall and also the money to
get rid of these criminal, violent aliens that are in
the country as well, plus up the military sum as well.
(08:21):
So I think we got to take what we can get.
President Reagan said this, take eighty percent if you can
get it. I think this will get ninety percent of
what we wanted, and then we're going to have to
come back and hopefully find more cuts. Well even or not,
the Senate wants to cut more money than the House does,
so we're trying to figure out if there's a way
to cut more money. And I talked about these recisions earlier.
To me, this is all one problem. They're all woven together.
(08:44):
What can we do to work towards a balanced budget.
But we'll take the House bill and see if we
can approve it. Over here on the Senate side, come
back and take a second bite at the apple on
some of those other issues that President Trump wants us to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Get at center.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Marshall, I'm back and now I'll be able to hear
your answers. Sorry he came out there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
For a second.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Don't want to have an interview where I can't hear
the other side. Tell me what you think about the
executive order that is supposed to come down imminently on
I guess disassembling the Department of Education. It's not really
clear to me what exactly is going to be in
it because it hasn't been released, but I'm sure you're
up on it. Is this going to happen, and why
(09:24):
is it? If it does happen, why is it the
right move?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Look, I think that most of us, especially conservatives, saying
that education should be controlled at the local level with
parents and their local school board. Because the federal government
is controlling so many of the dollars, they also have
rules and regulations that go along with that. What I
expect this executive order to do is to have Secretary
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McMahon present a plan to Congress to say this is
how we disassemble the Department of Education. Now, look, this
is a sad day for me in the sense that
President I helped start this Department of Education, but it's
just it's out of control. President Eisenhower also said that
you would rule the day when the federal government was
giving money to universities and the schools as well. So
(10:10):
I think this shield present a policy. I think there's
a limit to what he can do with an executive order,
and then it's going to be up to Congress to
act on this. But whatever he can do within the
constitutional limits of his abilities. They are an executive branch.
I think they're going to push everything they can to
the state level. You I think he can do school
choice through an executive order, but we need I need
(10:32):
to check that.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You were Tuesday in the House chamber for Donald Trump's speech.
What did you think of the speech and what did
you think of Democrat behavior? Based on being there in person,
we're told it was even more egregious in person than
it was for those of us watching on television.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, a couple of thoughts. You know, I can feel
this momentum from back home that when the night Donald
Trump was elected, you could just literally fill this big
shift we call America turning in the right direction. I've
never been more bullish on America than I am today
that our better days are ahead of us. And you saw,
I think his cabinet. Did you see the interaction the
body language of his cabinet members up front. That's really
(11:17):
different than any I've seen. And I've just been up
here for eight years. But these people are godly men
and women. They have their own Bible study. I mean,
these folks are focused on America first. Now let's contrast
that to the Democrat side. This was rude. You know,
I suffered through four years of Biden. The first lady
Missus Biden is introduced, we stand up and politely applaud her.
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The people he's chosen, that Biden chose to come and
celebrate their lives. There were great stories, all of them,
most of them, and we stood up and applotted them.
But when the Democrats wouldn't get up and applaud for
a young Boyce who survived Braiden cancer, the Secret Service
was deputizing him. Another young man is life dream to
go to West Point, and they announced that in front
of every everybody as well. You know, I understand that
(12:03):
they don't like President Trump. They are mistaken on the policies.
Though eighty percent of Americans, I'm going to back up
probably seventy percent of Americans. I don't want to exaggerate,
seventy percent of Americans at least support President Trump's agenda.
If you take them one at a time, seventy percent
of America support those agenda items. The Democrats again are
(12:24):
wallowing there in a pig sty, if you will, and
they just can't get out. But it was an embarrassment.
It was worse than what you saw on TV. Very
petty to see these little signs flashed in front of us.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
No doubt a Senator will appreciate you, and we happy
to have you on anytime. Keep up the good fight
and condolences on your Kansas City Chiefs going down. I
know of Kansas City. I know you're a big Chiefs fan.
That was a tough one for you.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I appreciate that. And my Jayhawks and Wildcats Kansas
schools aren't doing very well either. We'll live to fight
another day. Thanks for giving us a voice, Mike, Kansas.
Love listening to you guys. Thank you so much, have
a great day.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
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And politics, but also a little comic relief.
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Speaker 1 (14:49):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in my bad stepping in there.
So fired up Buck to dive right into all of
these crazy stories of the day.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I want to jump into this right away.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
That's why I got excited about this, because I think
this is one of those issues where you and I
disagree vociferously, We disagree strenuously. Hamilton has canceled. It's you know,
the Broadway show. Hamilton has canceled its run at the
Kennedy Center in what is being taken as a hit
(15:27):
at Donald Trump because he took control of the Performing
Arts Center's board of trustees. Our show, this is a
quote our show simply cannot, in good conscience participate and
be a part of this new culture that is being
imposed on the Kennedy Center. You know, this is the
Lynn Manuel Miranda production. I just want to point out
to everybody, Hamilton sucks. It has always sucked. It is horrible.
(15:51):
It is not good. And I don't even care about
the power I'm talking about artistically. I don't care that
it made a billion dollars, so did Cats. Hamilton is garbage.
It should go in French a lapoubelle. It is no good,
and everyone should just remember that. I just wanted to
trash Hamilton because I watched it on YouTube and it
was the worst thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I went and watched it on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Let me just say this I am, and then this
is I'm gonna get I know, I'm gonna get lit up.
I hate musicals. I don't like any musical. I understand
that some of you out there are like, oh, musicals
are amazing. Every time someone sings, I just it takes
me completely out of whatever story is going on because
(16:34):
no one actually and I understand that maybe I just
want too much realism. No one ever actually sings anywhere,
so I hate all musicals within the context of.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
That, so Clay is a philistine. Put that aside for
a second.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
All musicals, by and large would be better if they
did not exist. The world would be better, in my opinion,
with no musicals. I just want actual plays.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, just want more.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Solo time for the flute.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's trip.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But within the context of understanding that all musicals are awful,
I thought, as all musicals are awful, Hamilton was higher
than the average musical performance.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
This is like, this is like if Gavin Newsom gave
his Broadway review of Hamilton, You're like, I don't it's
not my review.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is I hate all musicals. My wife is afraid to
try to get me to go to a musical. Okay,
I don't hate concerts. I hate musicals. But Hamilton was
not the worst musical that I've ever seen. The worst
musical I've ever seen is Headwig in The Angry Inch.
But Hamilton, which I saw in person, and I was traumatized.
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I don't know if you know what that's about. It's
actually about a sex change operation.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
There you go. No, I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I got taken to it. It was not my choice.
It was a date.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
It was a date that you know I should not
have gone on. But Hamilton is trash. I just like
to say it over and over again because I've always
said it and people disagree with me, but they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That's where they have that great line in the succession
where they say what kind of party is it? He's like,
it's a party where you can admit that that Hamilton
actually wasn't any good.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
The best line in the whole series.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Amazing line.
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Of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
We are rolling through the first edition of the program.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't know if you saw this, but Elizabeth Warren
getting called Pocahontas as it was very well done by
Trump ad living the funniest in my opinion. I know
we've debated this before. I think clearly the funniest nickname
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that anyone has ever been given. But did you see this?
A Reuter's reporter came out and said that this was
super racist of Trump. And I want to make sure
that I read and ridicule this woman, because this is
a crazy take. Uh Nandida bos whose biography says and
(19:52):
and community notes very fun. This is the White House
correspondent for Reuters Reuter.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
There's big news organization.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
She says on her account, facts not opinions, Northwestern grad.
I could give you her email address because it's in
her bio, but I am going to be kind and
I am not going to allow you guys to absolutely
flood her email with hysterical comments. I don't want that
(20:22):
to happen. I'm trying to be kind here, she tweeted Buck.
Pocahontist first racial slur in a joint address. The reader's note,
I thought you would like this. Buck Community Notes says
Elizabeth Warren claimed to be a Native American and was
honored for being a woman of color at Harvard. This
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earned her the nickname Pocahontas. President Trump's use of the
nickname highlighted her absurdity and misrepresentation.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It then is a link.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Okay, shouldn't this be an actual still way bigger story
that Elizabeth Warren has to answer for more frequently. In
other words, the satire and ridicule that Trump is heaping
upon her, far from being racist, is actually ridiculing her
(21:17):
because she owes her entire career to a claim that
she is Native American. She then, in an effort to
prove that she was Native American, shared a DNA test
that showed Buck she was one one thousand, twenty fourth
Native American one slash one twenty fourth, which is actually
(21:41):
less Native American than the average white person living in
America today is. In other words, most of us, probably me,
maybe Buck as well, are more Native American than Elizabeth
Warren is. She wrote a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow.
She claimed that she was Native American because of her
(22:02):
cheekbones and excuse me, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Excuse me, important detail. She plagiarized a cook named Pow
Wow Chow. She stole a Julia Child's recipe, renamed it
under her pow Wow Chow, and then went on the warpath.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh that's good, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
But she got her start in teaching at law schools
by claiming to be a minority. I not only is
this I think a very funny nickname. How about the
fact that this Reuters reporter, who claims that she only
deals in facts not opinions, says that Trump calling her
(22:42):
Pocahontas is racist, like the standard for racism. You remember,
I actually feel sorry for this woman. Do you remember
Rachel doles Albuck the yes, the white woman who claimed
to be black and was the head of I think
like the Spokane Washington NAACP. We've got a big audience.
By the way, good recall with the Spokane Yes. I
(23:05):
think that's correct. I thank you for everybody listening out
there in Spokane. We love you guys. So it would
not be racist to call her Harriet Tubman. It would
actually be very funny because she's not actually black. So
if I called her a modern day Harriet Tubman. First
of all, it's not an insult Harriet Tubman. They were
(23:26):
trying to put her on the twenty dollars bill to
kick Andy Andrew Jackson off.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I don't know what happened with that. Do you remember
that that stories she's a heroic American icon.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Indeed, but if you were white and you claim to
be black, it wouldn't be racist for me to call
you Harriet Tubman. It would actually be funny because you're
not actually black. Trump's ridicule of Pocahontas of Elizabeth Warren
actually just reinforces for me what a complete free pass
she got from a total why. And it had me thinking,
(23:59):
what is the worst lie that a Democrat in the
Senate has gotten away with? Because I think it's Elizabeth Warren.
But the guy who claimed Blumenthal totally lied about being
do you remember this, Buck Blumenthal, senator from Connecticut. I
believe totally lied about going to Vietnam and being under
(24:22):
fire and all these things, and nobody talks about that either. Like,
there are a lot of deep lies that have been
allowed on the Democrat side. People just stop talking about it.
How about our Buddy Swallwell sleeping with a Chinese spy.
Like a lot of these stories that should be disqualifying,
(24:43):
Just vanish.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Clay, You're just you're just doing like the Democrat great
hit all. He's like, he's like, he's like, Pocahontas is
a fraud.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Do you know that?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Jay? That that that Teddy Kennedy let a woman drown
in the back of his car.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But some of the stuff, in other words, that you
get away with, and I'm talking about in your public life,
that should be integral to your overall bio. Elizabeth Warren
would have had no career if she hadn't lied about
being Native American Bluementhal tries to use his service to
justify his election. When you lie about basic fundamental aspects
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of your life that are easily refuted to me, that
should remain a bigger story. Instead, Trump's getting attacked for
making fun of Pocahontas.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You know what, It's not a bigger story anymore, Clay. Honestly,
Elizabeth Warren just not not powerful enough in the Democrat
Party to get too much focus or attention. You know,
you just think she's just totally irrelevant. So I think
she's about her anymore. That's exactly right. And I also
think that nobody truly gets upset about the about the
(25:54):
Pocahontas line. This is just people who feel very sad
about what's going on with Trump and all of the
winning for Trump and the people who voted for him
and for the country.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Whether Democrats like it or not.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Uh, they're going to say these things like it's racist,
but that doesn't that doesn't actually add up, and I
would I would agree with you. It also is a
reminder of how much things have changed in the in
the Trump era. You have the actual president calling a
city US senator Pocahontas as a term of mockery. It
(26:26):
was not it was not that long ago, where much
more minor. I mean, I think when do you think
the the canceled for minor slight power of the left
was at its absolute apex. I'm not talking about of course,
during COVID they gave us a trial of of pure
(26:47):
communism and authoritarianism.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It was madness.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
But I mean, if you said something that you didn't
even mean to be offensive, you could still get tossed.
I mean, you know, like you've different sports writers. I
remember who wrote things that got them fired, And sometimes
you'd look at it and you'd say, hold on a second,
that actually isn't racist at all.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The last time.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's a good question because I do think cancel culture
has feeded faded substantially, and you guys out there listening
may be able to think of it. It's a good question, buck,
who is the last person to get fired for something
that they said? Not like Joy Reid got fired because
nobody watched her show and she was a moron. Eventually
they started a fair reason to be fired from your
(27:33):
tarration shows a fairly job, Like, if you're not good
at your job, I think you should be fired. So
I'm not talking about you get fired because not enough
people are consuming your work. I mean you got fired
because of one sentence or one story or one tweet.
(27:53):
I don't It's actually a really good question who. And
I don't mean like somebody at a local post office,
I mean somebody in the public arena. But I do
think it's faded even for normal jobs.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Which is good.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You shouldn't get fired for something that you post on
Facebook if you work at I don't know, a local
fire department. Did you see this story back by the
way I texted it to you. But in my hometown
of Nashville, did you see the fireman who teed off
on BLM and they offered to settle his case for
(28:28):
one hundred thousand dollars. The local Nashville politician said, no,
that's too much. He went to trial and he won
one point eight million dollars because they had reprimanded him
for something that he posted anti the BLM protests on Facebook.
And so I think by that's yeah, amen, that's a
(28:49):
win win for all. It's huge to love that story,
and I love that the politicians were all wrong, like, oh,
we're not going to settle this for one hundred thousand dollars.
They should all get fired for being morons. But it
does feel to me like we've come through the cancel
culture fires by and large, and nobody is really getting
canceled for one statement. Roseanne obviously is one of the
(29:15):
ones in the last few years that I remember where
she made fun of Valerie Jarrett.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What do you care?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Like, why should she not be able to be on
a television show because she made fun of Valerie Jarret
in anyway?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And I say that first, people can say awful things
about me if they wanted to, and they're on television
shows like you shouldn't lose your job because you ridicule
somebody online.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I can't even think of somebody. Can you.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We'll go to break and I'm gonna check mentions. You
can you know at Clay Travis, you can send me
a mention. I do think it's a sign of positivity
and also of Trump changing the culture that much of
the cancel culture universe has collapsed.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It really has.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
It's a much better thing for the country. It was
a panic, and you saw this a lot with the
way that they would go after people in the media. Clay,
you and I have both witnessed this and at different
times experienced it ourselves. They try to create a frenzy
and they try to get immediate action by making it
seem like the transgression was much more serious than it
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was and to anybody really, because once you fired somebody,
you're not bringing them back. You're not going to go
back on that right. People have realized that, you know,
unless you're talking about something that's truly indefensible and crazy,
and even one's own audience and one's own side would
find it to be. So the notion of getting somebody
(30:39):
can because they say something offhand that you know, struck
some as a little too riskue. That's just not the country.
I'm sorry. I thought this was America. That's not the
country I wanted to live in.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So I will say buck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The positive is if they come after you and they fail.
And this is what we were talking about this last
night at our dinner, when they tried to come after
me over the First Amendment. In Boobs line, you actually
come through all the fire and it really drives them
even more insane because I truly believe this. I think
I think I am uncancellable. I think I can say
whatever I want, and I think I cannot be canceled.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I really do.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Look at this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I mean this.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I think the audience is like, you're uncancellable when your
audience will have your back no matter what, and they
know you're not gonna ben the knee and apologize. And
that's one thing that I have learned. I think we've
moved through cancel culture. But I don't think there's anything
I could say that would get me canceled.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I really mean that. Now people might be angry.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You're still here and you said Gladiator too was a
good movie, so I think we've already tested this out.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm a little bit nervous to even check my mentions
because I said all musicals are trash, and I know
I'm getting lit up.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I know some of you out.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
There if you think the flute orchestra mafia comes out
for you once you mess with show tunes and Broadway,
Tim Walls is going to be all up in your mentions,
very upset, sim Walls.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Tim Walls definitely loves musicals, oh for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I think he's probably practicing for the HMS Pinafore right now,
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Speaker 2 (33:27):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
We do.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
We've got pandemonium breaking out all.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Your connect corrections that are coming down.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Let me start, cannot should I start?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I'll oh yeah, Well, you gotta hop on this hand grenade.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Sir yes, go for it.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So would I said, no one had been canceled in
recent memory. I neglected to realize or remember. My apologies.
Ryan Gurdusky just got canceled by CNN like three months ago,
and he's he joined you.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
He is in the Brotherhood of the band.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
But he's legitimately our podcast network. And I just apologies
to the Ryan Gardusky fan base and all of his
family because I'm like, I can't even.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Nobody's been canceled in forever.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And then I went into my mentions and all of
you are like, hey, you idiot, he's in your podcast network.
He made a joke about about a bomb and like
a pager exploding for a flagrantly anti Israel panelist on
UH on CNN, and they canceled him off CNN. So
that that is the last guy that I can remember.
(34:32):
Now a lot of you are sending me emails about
people in the past several years. We're not disputing that,
but I did totally whiff on forgetting one of our.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Own pod Well. We didn't cancel him. Uh, in fact,
probably was better for his career. Hired us. Yeah, we
hired him.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So we did the opposite of a cancel we responded
to cancel culture by hiring but I certainly whiffed on
that one. And you should go into my mentions right now.
Buck the musical they are. They are singing at my funeral,
the musical fans all throughout the entire landscape of musical theater.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So Clay Clay's has kicked the hornet's nest and they
are now all buzzing in tune as they are upset
at his musical take. Here but wheels on twitter on
x writes, Clay weird hill to die on, especially when
the hills are alive with the sound of music well played.
(35:30):
That I mean, some of you are very witty and
the comments are going to be outstanding. Would it be
for me to say that musicals are overwhelmingly more popular
with women than men. Would that be a fair comment
to make that musicals are more popular with women than.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Men overwhelmingly, Like the number of women that like musicals
far exceeds the number of men that like musicals. That
would be a fair analysis, right, Like I would say
seventy percent of musical fans are women and thirty and
they're all gay.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
But that's okay, There's nothing wrong with it. Musicals are awful.
Just tell me what you think. I don't need to
hear you sing what you think.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Just tell me, hey, this is every musical would be
better if they just talk to like normal people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I would be able to follow it. I would be
far more interested.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Tomorrow we're gonna talk about end of Ukraine War and
DOGE cuts to save the federal government's massive expenditures from
turning our economy into oblivion, and less conversation about musical
per se.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But I don't send this.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I don't know I was gonna say, send us your talkback,
send us your emails. Funny ones will be read on
the air, and memes of Clay Shirtless playing the flute
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