November 24, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a wide range of topics blending politics, culture, and lifestyle. The hour opens with Thanksgiving travel tips and personal holiday plans, encouraging listeners to subscribe to the podcast for on-the-road listening. Clay shares an exclusive story about his private Vatican tour, meeting the Pope, and exploring historical maps from the Age of Exploration, while Buck reveals his family’s genealogical ties to John Speed, Queen Elizabeth I’s chief cartographer. The conversation shifts to reflections on ancient Rome, the Coliseum’s role in sports history, and critiques of Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations as “philosophy lite,” even noting Bill Clinton’s admiration for the text. Clay contrasts America’s youth with Europe’s deep history, citing experiences in Italy, Greece, and Israel, and thanks ambassadors appointed by the Trump administration for facilitating his trip. Political analysis takes center stage with discussion of Marjorie Taylor Greene’s decision to leave Congress, framed as part of a troubling trend where “crazy” behavior is rewarded in media. The hosts critique social media’s lack of accountability and ego-driven infighting on the right, warning that attention-seeking undermines conservative principles. They praise President Donald Trump for his decisive strike on Iran, arguing it brought stability to the Middle East without American casualties and strengthened the Abraham Accords. Buck promotes his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion, exploring how political madness is weaponized, while both hosts lament the fragmentation of conservative media in the podcast era. Economic frustration surfaces as Clay predicts the 2026 election will hinge on affordability, sharing a personal anecdote about rising costs. Lifestyle segments include holiday travel stress, flight delay strategies, and etiquette tips—such as saying “please” and “thank you,” dressing appropriately, and avoiding seat reclining in cramped coach cabins. The hosts debate travel attire, share humorous takes on airline behavior, and call out “chair terrorists” and passengers who play devices on speaker without headphones. Southwest Airlines earns praise for its seating flexibility. The hour closes with a lighthearted look at President Trump’s entertainment preferences, including his push for more buddy cop movies like Rush Hour and his love for 1980s and 1990s action classics. Trump’s favorite film, Bloodsport starring Jean-Claude Van Damme, gets special mention, along with anecdotes about fast-forwarding to fight scenes—a habit the hosts admit they share. Listener emails and talkbacks add personal flavor, referencing Trump’s resilience and cultural impact.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Just
so you know, we will be with you Tuesday of
this week and Wednesday of this week if you're gonna
be on the road, as I know a lot of
you are for Thanksgiving, including you're staying at home this year,
(00:23):
right Buck, you're with the little guy like just chilling. Hell,
good to New York. Oh, that's gonna be in New York.
You're gonna be home for Christmas, gonna be on the road.
Buck will be up in mom Donnie Land for Thanksgiving.
I will be on the road. I'll be down in Florida.
But we will be with you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Just
in case you're gonna be out on the road, I
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know a lot of you are gonna be driving around.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good time to sign just just you tomorrow, Just You Tomorrow.
Clay might lead everyone in the rosary before his baatification
as Saint Clay, which could come any moment.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Now, I have you toured Vatica before? Have you taken
like that?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say it it's gonna sound a
little little fruit through. But my eighth grade class trip
was to Italy, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Wow. Well I had never been to Italy till a
couple of years ago. I was out last week, super
secret move, got to go set up a meeting with
the Pope, got to hang out with the hmbath.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It was an awesome trip.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We got to tour the Vatican Buck after hours and
so we were the only people in the Sistine Chapel,
which if you I've been before, there's usually hundreds of people,
and we got a special tour going through the Vatican.
It was it was awesome the number of so maps
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that they have in the Vatican. You know, one of
the things that the Vatican used to be so powerful
for for those of you out there that are history nerds,
like both Buck and myself are. If you study history,
one of the things that was the most valuable back
in the day was accurate maps, particularly of the New World,
and that was considered to be basically the state secrets
(02:05):
of the era. How do you get to the Spice Islands?
I love that whole area, that whole era, the age
of exploration.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We got to go tour.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And see a bunch of maps buck that were made
almost immediately upon Columbus's discovery of America. And being able
to look at those maps that were drafted in the
fourteen nineties that they kept in the Vatican, or that
the Vatican eventually had ended up in control of, think
about how valuable that asset was. The maps of the world,
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in many ways were the most valuable intelligence of that era. So,
since we're just totally nerding out here, Clay my official
genealogist who did this whole family thing, my son's name
is Speed. It's because Speed is a family name. The
Speed Museum in Kentucky, by the way, the same line,
and we are very much descendants of that actually Kentuckian
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on one side.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
There you go something new for people.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And John Speed, who was the chief cartographer for Queen
Elizabeth in the early sixteen hundreds, is a direct descendant
and his descendants that came to America became the speech
last Sexton family. So my son is named for a
guy who made really good maps for the Queen of
England in the early sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Boom, that's all around.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's a heck of a connection. I just it was
an amazing trip. And I think I said this when
we came back. The first time I went to Italy
was a couple of years ago. We also got to
go to tour what I think is maybe the most
I mean, look, there are tons of incredible parts of Italy.
We're in the coliseum, which is for someone who is
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a fan of sports. I mean basically the beginning and
the foundation of every aspect of the entire sports.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Used to feed Christians to the lions there though Saint Clay,
so we don't.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We don't like that part of it, but a little bit,
a little bit of a downside potentially associated there.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the part that everyone always leaves out about Marcus Aurelius.
By the way, Oh, he was a stoic in the meditations.
Meditations a little self indulgence, if you ask me. And
also this guy was a huge persecutor of the Christians,
and his son, Commedists, was a psycho, and so he
wasn't a very good dad either, So maybe everybody should
stop getting all their lessons from the stoics. I'm just
(04:29):
throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I haven't ever read the Meditations of Marcus Aurelia. It's
actually on my list. Did you read it?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean it's a lot, it's it's a lot of
don't even get me started. Meditations is philosophy for people
who don't want to actually put too much work into philosophy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All right, it sounds like me. Sounds like me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Honestly, Bill Clinton's Bill Clinton was quoted a second I
think it was his favorite thing ever written.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm like, yeah, no surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Leaves plenty of tom to chase lay not spend a
lot of time actually studying.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I think if you told me, hey, you're gonna have
to spend a lot of time in a philosophy class,
I would that does not sound like something that I
would would want to do. But what I was gonna
say also is I think the coolest, maybe the most
amazing building is the Pantheon, which is roughly, you know,
two thousand years old. And every time I have the
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opportunity to tour a place like that, I can't help
but think just how incredibly young this nation is when
you think about it in the context of Greece, Rome.
Certainly last year I was over in Israel. You know,
the things that we consider to be super old here
are a pinprick of time and much of the quote
(05:47):
unquote old world. So I hope people get the opportunity
to go over there. Thank you to the Vatican ambassador
Brian Birch and Italy's ambassador Tilman Fertida. We had great
times with they and their families. Awesome people, great choices
by the Trump administration. Okay, I want to get your
take on this book because we haven't really talked about
it that much. We talked a lot about the race
(06:07):
that's going on. Encourage all of you in the Tennessee
seventh Congressional district to get out and vote.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Matt Van Epps was with us.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Kaylee Mcananey was with us last hour, and we opened
the show talking about the Trump mom Donnie Brofest, what
is your take on Marjorie Taylor Green's decision to give
up her congressional seat starting in January. Is this some
sort of super stupendous move that she is making in
the political stratosphere. Did she just get upset at criticism
(06:36):
from Trump and there's not much else to it. My
understanding is she's wealthy, she doesn't need to have a job.
What is going on here as you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
See it, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, I follow this in so far as it's
our job to know what's going on in the news.
But I started to put this a little bit into
the personal squabble category where somebody has some kind of
a beef with Trump and then they get into a
little bit of a backend for and it's just hard
for me to spend that much time and intellectual energy
on this. That said, I think there are people who
(07:09):
find it to be worthy of discussion. So I mean,
I'll just say this. She seemed to be getting a
little wacko recently. Some of the stuff she was saying
was a little lot of whacko.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Let's be honest, a lot of that going around these days.
Maybe a lot of that going around these days. And
I'll tell you what's really happened. And this is uh.
And you know, by the way, don't don't like do
the thing that people do.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm not naming anybody because I don't want to get
into any of the personal squabbles. We talk about ideas
and news here, and we're here for you for this audience,
not here for someone else's audience to get into some
back and forth and help their ratings.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We're here for you. We serve you Russia's audience that
he built over decades. And I would just say, there's
a there's a little bit of a disconcerting thing, Clay,
where people are getting crazier and crazier, and somehow it's
being rewarded in the on the American right, and that's
not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
This is not good.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Attention does not equal right. Attention does not equal clicks.
A lot of people get into this. Clicks and downloads
and all that are not actually the most important currency
in what we do. It's important, you know, if you
don't have anyone listening, it doesn't really matter what you
say if you're going to do this. But if you're
getting crazy out there and you're turning on people who
(08:32):
have stood with you, and you're turning I mean, look,
I'll just give you a perfect example. I found it
deeply sad that Dick Cheney endorsed Kamalaw and then at
his funeral had a bunch of communists destroying everything he
ever stood for. I think that's a really sad legacy,
on top of the legacy of the Bad Wars and
everything else. But I'm just at least go out with
(08:53):
your principles. Man, at least go out like guys. I
thought I was doing the right thing, but I stood
for something. He did the wrong thing, and then he
sold everything out. And I just can't think of a
sadder thing than that in your final years to do.
And I just see a lot of people right now
who are getting a lot of attention and everything else.
And like I said, I'm not going to get into
any individuals because I don't care, but they're saying crazy
(09:15):
stuff that sells out what they have stood for before.
And they can either explain that, which I haven't seen
a lot of, or people should see it for what
it is, which is just attention and money seeking. And
I think that that's a shame. I don't like what
I'm seeing. The trend is not is not our friend
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Here's this is the big trend that I have an
issue with. And I think Marjorie Taylor Green has in
some way gotten caught up in the in the chaos
there in a social media era, there is almost no
consequence for being wrong. All that matters is do people
(09:55):
pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What you're saying? And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You and I came on this program and I think
have been proven correct when we said, hey, striking Iran
is going to be a good decision that will help
to bring stability to the Middle East. I think you're
seeing potentially with Saudi Arabia coming in on the Abraham Accords.
I think President Trump was one hundred percent right on
(10:19):
that choice. Now, there was a debate out there. There
was a huge debate out there about whether it was
the right decision to strike Iran or not. I think
that was a smart debate to have.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Right. Everybody's not right on every issue. But if you said, hey.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If we strike Iran, world War three is going to happen,
and then we struck Iran and World War three did
not happen, and there were virtually no consequences. In fact, Buck,
I think I'm correct in saying not one single American
soldier was even harmed by US striking Iran.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think I'm correcting that right.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Not only was world War three not happen, as far
or from World War three as you could actually go occurred,
and in fact, I think more stability to the Middle
East and safety and security and peace was the result. Well,
what happens then there's not a consequence for being wrong.
And if you come on and you say, hey, guess
what I was wrong? I say this all the time.
(11:18):
I got the twenty twenty two election wrong on this show.
I thought we were gonna have a huge red wave.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I got it wrong. You come on, you own it.
Nobody's going to be perfect in every piece of analysis.
But it seems there's actually far from consequences for being wrong.
There's actually an incentive to be crazy, and it actually
is paying really well. And we may be the sanest
show on radio, which maybe the sayest show in America.
I wonder about that though, right when crazy is a
(11:45):
reward that makes me think that we're in a really
dangerous place.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And this ties into because we are capitalists. Here my book,
which I hope you'll pre order, Manufacturing Delusion, which is
about how you create madness and weaponize it for politics,
which is going on all the time. It's happening a
little bit on our side. There is a manufacturing of
delusion that is happening on the right. So please go
pre order the book, get a copy of Balls already
(12:12):
on the shelves, and then pre order Manufacturing delusion and uh,
because it's got to get those those pre order numbers
up or else they just don't make enough books.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Clay. I think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Part of this also is that the disaggregation and conservative
and right wing media. I'll just be honest. It used
to be there was there was Rush, and then there
was Fox News, and then there was kind of everything else,
you know. I mean there was and so there were
kind of the the biggest, baddest guys on the block
that enforced I think some degree of what the the
(12:45):
guardrails were just in you know, and obviously Sean had
a huge radio show, huge show at Fox. I mean,
there's people that are all that were all the elder
statesman of the party. But it's become so disaggregated now
in the podcast era that people are are chasing a
lot of a lot of audience I think by being
increasingly just out there because that's what we'll get attention online.
(13:09):
It's very hard to get attention online these days because
there are so many options, so I think the incentives
are kind of the in the wrong direction. But also
my bigger philosophical point on this, and we weren't even
planning to really talk about this that much. We can
talk about the pending coup in Venezuela later, But my
bigger point on this, Clay is, I think because the
Trump movement has been so successful and it feels like
(13:31):
our political enemies are so routed, at least temporarily, keep
saying it it's temporary. That now there's a lot of
infighting that's happening on the right that's much more about
It's much more ego driven than it is mission driven,
I will say that, And I find that disconcerting because
there are a lot of people who will never have
(13:51):
to work another day in their life and never have
to worry about, you know, paying the bills for.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Themselves, their kids, or their kids kids kids.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Because they stood with the movement and or they built
up a successful program or whatever it is, they have
an obligation not to do things that tear the country
down now, and they have an obligation, I think, to
stay on the team that brought us to this point
and not start going crazy out there.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Again, no names, don't tag me with names, So is
this who you're talking about? I just I just don't
want craziness on our side. That's not factual, that's not reasonable,
because then this gives a lot of breathing room, a
lot of oxygen for the left to come back and
be like, look at how crazy they are. Yeah, we
used to be crazy, Clay, but now we're focused on affordability.
(14:41):
Now we just care about healthcare and affordability while they're
squabbling over Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't like it, I think.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
As well said, and it's increasingly becoming, I think, an issue,
and it's going to be distracting, and as the midterms
come around. I do think one of the subtexts of
Trump Mom Donnie is Trump is recognizing that people are
very frustrated about what goods cost, and that, to a
large extent, twenty twenty six is probably going to be
(15:09):
a referendum on whether people think goods are affordable or not.
He's fixed the border crime, as we talked about already
on the program, is coming down substantially. But I said
it the other day, things just cost way more than
you think they should.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And I was at subway.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Again last night with my fifteen year old and I dropped,
this time twenty eight bucks on a couple of subway meals.
And that seems high to me, and I think a
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yes, welcome back in everybody to play and Buck and
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Our tour guide in the Colosseum asked where we were staying.
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We told him. He said, oh, you're in the newer section.
They consider sixteen hundreds the newer.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Section of the city. It's a very.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Different scale of time when you go to these places
in Europe. You know, sometimes you're in England. I here
and you're walking around, You're like, oh, what's that stone wall.
It's like they built that in one hundred a d
that's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, goes back the ways.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean again, what I love. It's not going to
surprise people. I didn't drink rose there. There are lots
of bars that are older than our country in England.
Think about that. The bar, the pub is older than
the entire country.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
There you go.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show Buck.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I know you talked about this.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Sean Duffy has been having a press conference which MSNBC
and CNN are not carrying, but which Fox News has
been carrying, talking go figure about the importance of safety
and comportment. Tomorrow is going to be the busiest travel
day of the year. I will be traveling. I've bet
(19:30):
a huge majority, maybe not a majority, but a huge
percentage of this overall audience is going to be traveling
this week. Tomorrow is the busiest travel day of the year.
My kids have school today and tomorrow, so we can't
leave till tomorrow night to go down to join the
rest of the family. And there is just going to
(19:51):
be chaos at many of your airports. And I bet
there is a decent percentage chance that almost everyone who
is certainly getting on into an airplane is going to
see somebody losing their mind, particularly as flights get canceled
stress of holiday travel. Laura, my wife makes fun of me,
(20:13):
Buck because I it depends on what city you live in,
but I will almost not go anywhere where you have
to have a connecting flight because inevitably you get stuck
in the city you don't want to be in, and
there's just gonna be a high level of angst.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I think when when it comes to dealing with the
desk staff, gate agents, et cetera on flight delays, Are
you good cop or bad cop? Cause I gotta say
people might this might surprise people. I'm good cop. You
want to deal with me once.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Carrie gets a hold of you? Oh man, she plays
she plays rough.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
She knows all the airlines, she knows all the airline tricks,
and she's she's not let them.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Get away with anything.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You and I are the softies on parents, right Like
Lara is way tougher on the boys than I am.
And I think you would probably rather deal with me
than with Laura on an angry flight related situation. I
don't lose my temper very often at all. But when
I lose it, I lose it pretty bad. But it
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might only happen once every three years or something.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm not a yeller. I'm not a screamer. I very
rarely like really lose my temper in any kind of
significant way. And I know a lot of people who
work at airlines, a lot of people who work in TSA.
You guys bear the brunt of this all the time.
And I just I know, because people are like, I've
got to get to my family event, and there's gonna
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be something that that gets that gets screwed up, and
you're stuck at an airport and you don't sleep very
much and everybody is just on they're on the edge
of the nerves at all times with travel, and then
the information is not great, you know. So you get
told to hey, your flight's an hour late, and how
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many times do you think does.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That really mean an hour late or does that mean
four hours?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And in an hour they're gonna add another hour and
then another one. Like, I don't feel like we get
great knowledge about exactly what the situation is.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So here's what here's what I see with the airlines,
and you know, I uh, I some have some insight
into these things. I have family members who are airline
airline employees. Here's what I have seen, though, Clay, is
that is that when airlines have any incentive for disinformation
when it comes to what the hold up is, or
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claiming something as weather when it is not, or you know, uh,
that's when I think people rightfully get completely just go
completely berserk when the airline is basically making a decision
we're going to we're going to super inconvenience all of
you because we didn't staff up properly, because we made
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an administrative mistake, and we're going to pretend that it's
whether or we're gonna pretend it's something that we don't
have to pay out on because that does happen. And
I think they've cut back on it because people are
catching onto this. But that's when you really get people
losing their minds. This was what Sean Duffy said. By
the way, say please and thank you. Yes, always good advice.
(23:20):
Be patient and polite, also generally good advice. Maybe dress
nicer and skip the pjs. Now ah, Okay, he's losing
me on this one. Like, okay, pj's yes, Like you
shouldn't be rocking your Ghostbusters. What is your traditional travel outfit?
Jogger's in a hoodie. I'm not going to pretend like
I want to be comfortable, but I don't look like
(23:41):
a slob. But I'm I'm especially the Miami Airport. Every
gate I have to walk like three miles to get
to it. Okay, I hate Miami Airport's the worst airport
for a large city in America with the possible exception
of o Hair, but I absolutely hate Miami. I think
Miami Airport sucks. So yeah, what about you were the
same thing? I mean, you wear like you know at
(24:02):
leisure as they call it. I totally I wear like uh,
which does not make Laura happy. But I would wear
like you know, like the athletic pants or whatever, Like
I would wear those everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Or sure, I'm not gonna wear a suit for the
airline attendance, Like, give me a break. Well, what is this?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't like wearing suits. You'll be pleased. I
did wear a suit for the Pope and I put
it on and I.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Just I hate suits, Like I think suit is like
I heard the Pope brought you in and said thank you,
my son, because I know you wore sandels to the
White House.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I wore a tie to see the Pope. I was
I was well dressed, dark suit.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
This is where I start getting all First of all,
saying please and thank you is critical in life. And
I will tell you that my son, my parents. One
of the great things that they did was they created
I really believe in this, and it was my mom
and dad insisted that manners are automatic. Like you said,
the way that you way that you address people, you know,
the way mister and missus and mister so and so,
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miss so and so when you're a kid.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Uh. I'm a big believers. People think that it sounds
formal sometimes I don't care. I think if you don't
know someone, you call them sir or ma'am as a
sign just as a sign of respect. I'm a big
believer in that. I think it's better than dude or
like you know, lady or whatever. Yes sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no,
ma'am is. I think I think everyone deserves respect until
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proven otherwise. So you approach everybody first, first, go with respect.
I want my son to say ma'am and sir. I
want my son to say please and think please and
thank you. Just has to be automatic because you have
to think about it. You won't do it that much.
But play manners are important. I'm gonna tell you something.
You know what lacks manners when people do this thing
where they're like, hey, I didn't plan ahead, so I
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want to sit with my friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Will you change seats with me? I want to be
very clear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If you were asking for a seat change and it
is not so you can sit with like a small
child that somehow you did not manage to get a
seat with, it better be the exact same kind of seat.
Because I have been in a situation where someone is like, hey,
can you give me your Economy plus seat because sometimes
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I like to save some money economy plus seat and
I'm and I'm sitting in Economy and it's like you're
you're asking for me to inconvenience myself further and you
want something from me. I think you're allowed to throw
the flag on this one, Like I think you're allowed
to have the seat that you the seat that you
paid for that you want.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
What I would add to Sean Duffie this would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
What I would add to Sean Duffy's request, do not
recline your seats, because really what you're talking about, Buck
is we're roughly six feet tall. If you're in a
coach class seat, which the vast majority of the time
I am and somebody reclines their seat on you when
you're about six feet tall, and God forbid some of
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you out there that are like six five or six
four taller guys, you basically cannot move. I try to
work a lot of times, Like with my laptop, I
fly Southwest Airlines all the time because it's the easiest
airline to fly out at. Now.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I can't believe they don't sponsor us yet You've given
Southwest so many shout outs on this show, Southwest Marketing,
Come on, step up.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
This is true. I don't know what was that up
in the air where the guy wants to get the
meeting from Sam. Remember the George Club.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's pretty good movie up in the air where the
guy I think it was, who's the airplane pilot has
the amazing voice Sam, you know what I'm talking about,
plays all the Westerns, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott
comes out if I remember correctly, and thanks thanks George
Clooney Buck I have.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't know how many people have ever gotten to
this level on Southwest Airlines. I'm not sure if this
is bragging. Some people will say, like you need to
spend your money better. I have over two million Southwest
Airlines travel points, so legitimately over two million Southwest Airlines
everywhere I try to work. As soon as someone reclines
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the seat, you cannot move if you're about six feet
I now try to sit very front row Southwest Airlines
because there's no seat in front of me. I just
put my laptop of my lap, of my newspaper, which
I also travel with all the time. I think that
people who recline their seats are the absolute terrorists of
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Okay Airline.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I know I'm gonna I'm gonna one up you on
this one. I think the seat reclining in economy, especially
for short flights, unless they're unless they're darkening the lights
and everyone's gonna try to get some shut eye. The
reclining seat thing, I think is excessive in economy. If
you're obviously in first class or whatever, you have more space.
That's different. So I agree with you on that though.
But Clay, I think the worst people flying these days
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other than those who are just getting into like shouting
and punching matches, which is, you know, shameful behavior, But
the worst people flying these days are the I forgot
mine or my child's headphones. And there are headphones being
given out for free on the plane, but I don't
want to use those headphones, and I don't have my headphones,
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so I'm just putting my iPad on speaker and just
letting it rip. I would walk with a bucket of
cold water up and down the aisles for free for
any of these airlines and pour it on offenders in
this category because they deserve it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That doesn't bother me as much. You notice sound, of.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Course, not you barburying, No, I just I don't notice
sound that much. Like I think I can like zone out,
so when there's crazy chaos around me, like I just
don't pick up all.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think I have misophonia. I think annoying sounds drive
me insane, and it's like a thing because I'm not good.
You notice it way way more to than Like I've
given extra headphones to people sitting around me on planes
and been like and been like, just take it, please,
just take it and use it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Okay, it's yours. Now. I carried an extra one that
was unused just for this purpose.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I love that, because you're trying to civilize the world
based on just covering carrying extra What I will say
about their recliners, going back to the terrorist of airlines,
these are non actual terrorists, but they tend to not
be very big people. And so if you're like seven
feet tall and you're in front of me and you
recline your seat, I'll look and I'll be like, Okay,
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you're just trying to make this a flight that you
can survive. The number of people that are like my
wife's size, like five two, five three, you actually have
plenty of space if you are a relatively normal sized
woman on an airplane, if you're a normal.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Sized dude, you do not.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The number of small people who recline their seats, I
think that layers another ad terrorist. So if I wish
the seats didn't recline. Now to your point, if you're
on an overnight flight, if it's a red eye, if
everybody's going to sleep, obviously that's different. But if I'm
getting a flight at noon and I sit down, and
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let's say I'm flying to LA on Southwest Airlines, as
I have done innumerable times over the years, the number
of people that will immediately recline their seat in front
of you, it's staggering to me it truly is.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I like this Sean. I like this Sean Duffy campaign.
I think the restoration of manners in American daily life
is a very worthy pursuit. I think please and thank
you are our foundational elements for civilization, and we should
be pushing on all on all these things. You know,
I'm all in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Buck. When we come back.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
This is something that I was texting with Buck about
last night. President Trump has an entertainment request that I
think is going to entertain all of you. He wants
a certain type of movie to be made new. We
will discuss so when we come back in the meantime.
I love prize picks. I love football. I don't know
if Buck's going to watch any this. I was looking
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at the slate of NFL games on Thanksgiving and then
college football games on Friday and Saturday, and I was
actually talking about this with my fifteen year old last night,
and I said, I don't even know if we're going
to leave the house other than to maybe go outside
and throw football some The amount of incredible games that
are coming Thanksgiving Day, after the Friday and Saturday for
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Speaker 2 (33:14):
All right, we're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck.
I'm out tomorrow, so I'm traveling up to ny See.
Mister Clay will have the con Saint Clay. He will
bring you all of his blessings courtesy of his.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
New friend, the Pope. And so there we go.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
We'll get into some of that and also getting some
of your talkbacks and some of your final calls here.
But first, Clay, I love explain everybody Trump's taste in
movies because it's like he rated the Sexton Boys VHS
collection from the nineties. Trump has great taste in movies
and he wants to make movies great again. I saw
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this and I texted it to Buck last night. This
is from Semaphore. It's a media company that is out there,
and they move into the relationship between Trump and Larry
Ellison and David Ellison, who now run Paramount, and they
said that Trump has gotten involved in suggesting new movies,
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and in particular he has said that he would like
to see more Rush hour movies, more buddy cop movies,
as as it pertains to going forward Paramount like for
those of you who remember, and that he considers the
best movies to have been made in the eighties and nineties,
including Bucks movie that is at the very top of
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his all time list, Blood Sport, which Sport the Van did,
the best van damn movie. I would say, the best
martial arts movie ever made.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Uh. It is a phenomenal movie. And I love the
Semaphore thing.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It says that Trump watches it, but he sometimes fast forwards.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Just to watch the flight scenes. I love Trump, He's
the best.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's the New Yorker profile piece. They said that Trump
had a reporter on the plane with him. This is
back from like nineteen ninety seven, and he had one
of his sons just fast forwarding to all of the
best fight scenes so they could watch it in forty
five minutes, as opposed to Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
The funny thing is every American male in every American
male who just not to self describe as a male feminist,
reads that and goes, yeah, you know, I sometimes just
watched the fights. He's like totally normal. If you're a
New Yorker reporter, this is just you're a ruffian, a philistine.
How could you just go and watch the fight scenes
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in blood Sport. It's a great movie, dude, It's a
great Steven Miller of the White House told us on
this show it's his favorite movie. Oh yeah, it's like
a top five for me. I wouldn't say it's all.
It's not number one, number one, but it's a great,
great film. I love that Trump loves it. Sissy said
it the IP email.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
By the way, Clay, the last time you lost your
temper was July thirteenth, when Trump was almost assassinated.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I saved your Instagram rant.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It helps me to watch it on days when I
get frustrated with the Left. I was furious that day
because we had just talked about the fact that it
was so inevitable that they were going to try to
kill Trump and furious about it. Jeff and Chandler Arizona.
He's a terrorist. Ff, you can play it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Sorry, guys, hate to disagree with you because I agree
with you on so many things. But does the button
on the chair work and if you press it to
the chair go back?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
If the answer is yes, then it's meant to be refined. Sorry. Okay, Jack,
gonna be mind discomfort.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
If you're gonna be if you're gonna be a chair terrorist,
that's on you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know what can we say?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Don't recline, don't recline, be concerned about the status of.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
The world, be a good human.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Keep your seat back up for Thanksgiving travel, We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Tomorrow and Wednesday with all of you. Thanks for hanging
Flee Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of
truth
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Just
so you know, we will be with you Tuesday of
this week and Wednesday of this week if you're gonna
be on the road, as I know a lot of
you are for Thanksgiving, including you're staying at home this year,
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right Buck, you're with the little guy like just chilling. Hell,
good to New York. Oh, that's gonna be in New York.
You're gonna be home for Christmas, gonna be on the road.
Buck will be up in mom Donnie Land for Thanksgiving.
I will be on the road. I'll be down in Florida.
But we will be with you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Just
in case you're gonna be out on the road, I
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know a lot of you are gonna be driving around.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Good time to sign just just you tomorrow, Just You Tomorrow.
Clay might lead everyone in the rosary before his baatification
as Saint Clay, which could come any moment.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Now, I have you toured Vatica before? Have you taken
like that?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm just gonna say it it's gonna sound a
little little fruit through. But my eighth grade class trip
was to Italy, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Wow. Well I had never been to Italy till a
couple of years ago. I was out last week, super
secret move, got to go set up a meeting with
the Pope, got to hang out with the hmbath.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It was an awesome trip.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
We got to tour the Vatican Buck after hours and
so we were the only people in the Sistine Chapel,
which if you I've been before, there's usually hundreds of people,
and we got a special tour going through the Vatican.
It was it was awesome the number of so maps
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that they have in the Vatican. You know, one of
the things that the Vatican used to be so powerful
for for those of you out there that are history nerds,
like both Buck and myself are. If you study history,
one of the things that was the most valuable back
in the day was accurate maps, particularly of the New World,
and that was considered to be basically the state secrets
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of the era. How do you get to the Spice Islands?
I love that whole area, that whole era, the age
of exploration.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We got to go tour.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And see a bunch of maps buck that were made
almost immediately upon Columbus's discovery of America. And being able
to look at those maps that were drafted in the
fourteen nineties that they kept in the Vatican, or that
the Vatican eventually had ended up in control of, think
about how valuable that asset was. The maps of the world,
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in many ways were the most valuable intelligence of that era. So,
since we're just totally nerding out here, Clay my official
genealogist who did this whole family thing, my son's name
is Speed. It's because Speed is a family name. The
Speed Museum in Kentucky, by the way, the same line,
and we are very much descendants of that actually Kentuckian
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on one side.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
There you go something new for people.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
And John Speed, who was the chief cartographer for Queen
Elizabeth in the early sixteen hundreds, is a direct descendant
and his descendants that came to America became the speech
last Sexton family. So my son is named for a
guy who made really good maps for the Queen of
England in the early sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Boom, that's all around.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's a heck of a connection. I just it was
an amazing trip. And I think I said this when
we came back. The first time I went to Italy
was a couple of years ago. We also got to
go to tour what I think is maybe the most
I mean, look, there are tons of incredible parts of Italy.
We're in the coliseum, which is for someone who is
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a fan of sports. I mean basically the beginning and
the foundation of every aspect of the entire sports.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Used to feed Christians to the lions there though Saint Clay,
so we don't.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We don't like that part of it, but a little bit,
a little bit of a downside potentially associated there.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the part that everyone always leaves out about Marcus Aurelius.
By the way, Oh, he was a stoic in the meditations.
Meditations a little self indulgence, if you ask me. And
also this guy was a huge persecutor of the Christians,
and his son, Commedists, was a psycho, and so he
wasn't a very good dad either, So maybe everybody should
stop getting all their lessons from the stoics. I'm just
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throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I haven't ever read the Meditations of Marcus Aurelia. It's
actually on my list. Did you read it?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I mean it's a lot, it's it's a lot of
don't even get me started. Meditations is philosophy for people
who don't want to actually put too much work into philosophy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
All right, it sounds like me. Sounds like me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Honestly, Bill Clinton's Bill Clinton was quoted a second I
think it was his favorite thing ever written.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I'm like, yeah, no surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Leaves plenty of tom to chase lay not spend a
lot of time actually studying.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I think if you told me, hey, you're gonna have
to spend a lot of time in a philosophy class,
I would that does not sound like something that I
would would want to do. But what I was gonna
say also is I think the coolest, maybe the most
amazing building is the Pantheon, which is roughly, you know,
two thousand years old. And every time I have the
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opportunity to tour a place like that, I can't help
but think just how incredibly young this nation is when
you think about it in the context of Greece, Rome.
Certainly last year I was over in Israel. You know,
the things that we consider to be super old here
are a pinprick of time and much of the quote
(05:47):
unquote old world. So I hope people get the opportunity
to go over there. Thank you to the Vatican ambassador
Brian Birch and Italy's ambassador Tilman Fertida. We had great
times with they and their families. Awesome people, great choices
by the Trump administration. Okay, I want to get your
take on this book because we haven't really talked about
it that much. We talked a lot about the race
(06:07):
that's going on. Encourage all of you in the Tennessee
seventh Congressional district to get out and vote.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Matt Van Epps was with us.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Kaylee Mcananey was with us last hour, and we opened
the show talking about the Trump mom Donnie Brofest, what
is your take on Marjorie Taylor Green's decision to give
up her congressional seat starting in January. Is this some
sort of super stupendous move that she is making in
the political stratosphere. Did she just get upset at criticism
(06:36):
from Trump and there's not much else to it. My
understanding is she's wealthy, she doesn't need to have a job.
What is going on here as you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
See it, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, I follow this in so far as it's
our job to know what's going on in the news.
But I started to put this a little bit into
the personal squabble category where somebody has some kind of
a beef with Trump and then they get into a
little bit of a backend for and it's just hard
for me to spend that much time and intellectual energy
on this. That said, I think there are people who
(07:09):
find it to be worthy of discussion. So I mean,
I'll just say this. She seemed to be getting a
little wacko recently. Some of the stuff she was saying
was a little lot of whacko.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Let's be honest, a lot of that going around these days.
Maybe a lot of that going around these days. And
I'll tell you what's really happened. And this is uh.
And you know, by the way, don't don't like do
the thing that people do.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm not naming anybody because I don't want to get
into any of the personal squabbles. We talk about ideas
and news here, and we're here for you for this audience,
not here for someone else's audience to get into some
back and forth and help their ratings.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
We're here for you. We serve you Russia's audience that
he built over decades. And I would just say, there's
a there's a little bit of a disconcerting thing, Clay,
where people are getting crazier and crazier, and somehow it's
being rewarded in the on the American right, and that's
not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
This is not good.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Attention does not equal right. Attention does not equal clicks.
A lot of people get into this. Clicks and downloads
and all that are not actually the most important currency
in what we do. It's important, you know, if you
don't have anyone listening, it doesn't really matter what you
say if you're going to do this. But if you're
getting crazy out there and you're turning on people who
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have stood with you, and you're turning I mean, look,
I'll just give you a perfect example. I found it
deeply sad that Dick Cheney endorsed Kamalaw and then at
his funeral had a bunch of communists destroying everything he
ever stood for. I think that's a really sad legacy,
on top of the legacy of the Bad Wars and
everything else. But I'm just at least go out with
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your principles. Man, at least go out like guys. I
thought I was doing the right thing, but I stood
for something. He did the wrong thing, and then he
sold everything out. And I just can't think of a
sadder thing than that in your final years to do.
And I just see a lot of people right now
who are getting a lot of attention and everything else.
And like I said, I'm not going to get into
any individuals because I don't care, but they're saying crazy
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stuff that sells out what they have stood for before.
And they can either explain that, which I haven't seen
a lot of, or people should see it for what
it is, which is just attention and money seeking. And
I think that that's a shame. I don't like what
I'm seeing. The trend is not is not our friend
right now?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Here's this is the big trend that I have an
issue with. And I think Marjorie Taylor Green has in
some way gotten caught up in the in the chaos
there in a social media era, there is almost no
consequence for being wrong. All that matters is do people
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pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What you're saying? And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You and I came on this program and I think
have been proven correct when we said, hey, striking Iran
is going to be a good decision that will help
to bring stability to the Middle East. I think you're
seeing potentially with Saudi Arabia coming in on the Abraham Accords.
I think President Trump was one hundred percent right on
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that choice. Now, there was a debate out there. There
was a huge debate out there about whether it was
the right decision to strike Iran or not. I think
that was a smart debate to have.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Right. Everybody's not right on every issue. But if you said, hey.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
If we strike Iran, world War three is going to happen,
and then we struck Iran and World War three did
not happen, and there were virtually no consequences. In fact, Buck,
I think I'm correct in saying not one single American
soldier was even harmed by US striking Iran.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think I'm correcting that right.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Not only was world War three not happen, as far
or from World War three as you could actually go occurred,
and in fact, I think more stability to the Middle
East and safety and security and peace was the result. Well,
what happens then there's not a consequence for being wrong.
And if you come on and you say, hey, guess
what I was wrong? I say this all the time.
(11:18):
I got the twenty twenty two election wrong on this show.
I thought we were gonna have a huge red wave.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I got it wrong. You come on, you own it.
Nobody's going to be perfect in every piece of analysis.
But it seems there's actually far from consequences for being wrong.
There's actually an incentive to be crazy, and it actually
is paying really well. And we may be the sanest
show on radio, which maybe the sayest show in America.
I wonder about that though, right when crazy is a
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reward that makes me think that we're in a really
dangerous place.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And this ties into because we are capitalists. Here my book,
which I hope you'll pre order, Manufacturing Delusion, which is
about how you create madness and weaponize it for politics,
which is going on all the time. It's happening a
little bit on our side. There is a manufacturing of
delusion that is happening on the right. So please go
pre order the book, get a copy of Balls already
(12:12):
on the shelves, and then pre order Manufacturing delusion and uh,
because it's got to get those those pre order numbers
up or else they just don't make enough books.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Clay. I think.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Part of this also is that the disaggregation and conservative
and right wing media. I'll just be honest. It used
to be there was there was Rush, and then there
was Fox News, and then there was kind of everything else,
you know. I mean there was and so there were
kind of the the biggest, baddest guys on the block
that enforced I think some degree of what the the
(12:45):
guardrails were just in you know, and obviously Sean had
a huge radio show, huge show at Fox. I mean,
there's people that are all that were all the elder
statesman of the party. But it's become so disaggregated now
in the podcast era that people are are chasing a
lot of a lot of audience I think by being
increasingly just out there because that's what we'll get attention online.
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It's very hard to get attention online these days because
there are so many options, so I think the incentives
are kind of the in the wrong direction. But also
my bigger philosophical point on this, and we weren't even
planning to really talk about this that much. We can
talk about the pending coup in Venezuela later, But my
bigger point on this, Clay is, I think because the
Trump movement has been so successful and it feels like
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our political enemies are so routed, at least temporarily, keep
saying it it's temporary. That now there's a lot of
infighting that's happening on the right that's much more about
It's much more ego driven than it is mission driven,
I will say that, And I find that disconcerting because
there are a lot of people who will never have
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to work another day in their life and never have
to worry about, you know, paying the bills for.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Themselves, their kids, or their kids kids kids.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Because they stood with the movement and or they built
up a successful program or whatever it is, they have
an obligation not to do things that tear the country
down now, and they have an obligation, I think, to
stay on the team that brought us to this point
and not start going crazy out there.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So that's just how I feel about it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Again, no names, don't tag me with names, So is
this who you're talking about? I just I just don't
want craziness on our side. That's not factual, that's not reasonable,
because then this gives a lot of breathing room, a
lot of oxygen for the left to come back and
be like, look at how crazy they are. Yeah, we
used to be crazy, Clay, but now we're focused on affordability.
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Now we just care about healthcare and affordability while they're
squabbling over Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't like it, I think.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
As well said, and it's increasingly becoming, I think, an issue,
and it's going to be distracting, and as the midterms
come around. I do think one of the subtexts of
Trump Mom Donnie is Trump is recognizing that people are
very frustrated about what goods cost, and that, to a
large extent, twenty twenty six is probably going to be
(15:09):
a referendum on whether people think goods are affordable or not.
He's fixed the border crime, as we talked about already
on the program, is coming down substantially. But I said
it the other day, things just cost way more than
you think they should.
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Different scale of time when you go to these places
in Europe. You know, sometimes you're in England. I here
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It's like they built that in one hundred a d
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I mean again, what I love. It's not going to
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show Buck.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I know you talked about this.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Sean Duffy has been having a press conference which MSNBC
and CNN are not carrying, but which Fox News has
been carrying, talking go figure about the importance of safety
and comportment. Tomorrow is going to be the busiest travel
day of the year. I will be traveling. I've bet
(19:30):
a huge majority, maybe not a majority, but a huge
percentage of this overall audience is going to be traveling
this week. Tomorrow is the busiest travel day of the year.
My kids have school today and tomorrow, so we can't
leave till tomorrow night to go down to join the
rest of the family. And there is just going to
(19:51):
be chaos at many of your airports. And I bet
there is a decent percentage chance that almost everyone who
is certainly getting on into an airplane is going to
see somebody losing their mind, particularly as flights get canceled
stress of holiday travel. Laura, my wife makes fun of me,
(20:13):
Buck because I it depends on what city you live in,
but I will almost not go anywhere where you have
to have a connecting flight because inevitably you get stuck
in the city you don't want to be in, and
there's just gonna be a high level of angst.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I think when when it comes to dealing with the
desk staff, gate agents, et cetera on flight delays, Are
you good cop or bad cop? Cause I gotta say
people might this might surprise people. I'm good cop. You
want to deal with me once.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Carrie gets a hold of you? Oh man, she plays
she plays rough.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
She knows all the airlines, she knows all the airline tricks,
and she's she's not let them.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Get away with anything.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You and I are the softies on parents, right Like
Lara is way tougher on the boys than I am.
And I think you would probably rather deal with me
than with Laura on an angry flight related situation. I
don't lose my temper very often at all. But when
I lose it, I lose it pretty bad. But it
(21:15):
might only happen once every three years or something.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Like.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm not a yeller. I'm not a screamer. I very
rarely like really lose my temper in any kind of
significant way. And I know a lot of people who
work at airlines, a lot of people who work in TSA.
You guys bear the brunt of this all the time.
And I just I know, because people are like, I've
got to get to my family event, and there's gonna
(21:40):
be something that that gets that gets screwed up, and
you're stuck at an airport and you don't sleep very
much and everybody is just on they're on the edge
of the nerves at all times with travel, and then
the information is not great, you know. So you get
told to hey, your flight's an hour late, and how
(22:02):
many times do you think does.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That really mean an hour late or does that mean
four hours?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And in an hour they're gonna add another hour and
then another one. Like, I don't feel like we get
great knowledge about exactly what the situation is.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So here's what here's what I see with the airlines,
and you know, I uh, I some have some insight
into these things. I have family members who are airline
airline employees. Here's what I have seen, though, Clay, is
that is that when airlines have any incentive for disinformation
when it comes to what the hold up is, or
(22:36):
claiming something as weather when it is not, or you know, uh,
that's when I think people rightfully get completely just go
completely berserk when the airline is basically making a decision
we're going to we're going to super inconvenience all of
you because we didn't staff up properly, because we made
(22:56):
an administrative mistake, and we're going to pretend that it's
whether or we're gonna pretend it's something that we don't
have to pay out on because that does happen. And
I think they've cut back on it because people are
catching onto this. But that's when you really get people
losing their minds. This was what Sean Duffy said. By
the way, say please and thank you. Yes, always good advice.
(23:20):
Be patient and polite, also generally good advice. Maybe dress
nicer and skip the pjs. Now ah, Okay, he's losing
me on this one. Like, okay, pj's yes, Like you
shouldn't be rocking your Ghostbusters. What is your traditional travel outfit?
Jogger's in a hoodie. I'm not going to pretend like
I want to be comfortable, but I don't look like
(23:41):
a slob. But I'm I'm especially the Miami Airport. Every
gate I have to walk like three miles to get
to it. Okay, I hate Miami Airport's the worst airport
for a large city in America with the possible exception
of o Hair, but I absolutely hate Miami. I think
Miami Airport sucks. So yeah, what about you were the
same thing? I mean, you wear like you know at
(24:02):
leisure as they call it. I totally I wear like uh,
which does not make Laura happy. But I would wear
like you know, like the athletic pants or whatever, Like
I would wear those everywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Or sure, I'm not gonna wear a suit for the
airline attendance, Like, give me a break. Well, what is this?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't like wearing suits. You'll be pleased. I
did wear a suit for the Pope and I put
it on and I.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Just I hate suits, Like I think suit is like
I heard the Pope brought you in and said thank you,
my son, because I know you wore sandels to the
White House.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I wore a tie to see the Pope. I was
I was well dressed, dark suit.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
This is where I start getting all First of all,
saying please and thank you is critical in life. And
I will tell you that my son, my parents. One
of the great things that they did was they created
I really believe in this, and it was my mom
and dad insisted that manners are automatic. Like you said,
the way that you way that you address people, you know,
the way mister and missus and mister so and so,
(25:04):
miss so and so when you're a kid.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Uh. I'm a big believers. People think that it sounds
formal sometimes I don't care. I think if you don't
know someone, you call them sir or ma'am as a
sign just as a sign of respect. I'm a big
believer in that. I think it's better than dude or
like you know, lady or whatever. Yes sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no,
ma'am is. I think I think everyone deserves respect until
(25:27):
proven otherwise. So you approach everybody first, first, go with respect.
I want my son to say ma'am and sir. I
want my son to say please and think please and
thank you. Just has to be automatic because you have
to think about it. You won't do it that much.
But play manners are important. I'm gonna tell you something.
You know what lacks manners when people do this thing
where they're like, hey, I didn't plan ahead, so I
(25:48):
want to sit with my friend or whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Will you change seats with me? I want to be
very clear.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
If you were asking for a seat change and it
is not so you can sit with like a small
child that somehow you did not manage to get a
seat with, it better be the exact same kind of seat.
Because I have been in a situation where someone is like, hey,
can you give me your Economy plus seat because sometimes
(26:16):
I like to save some money economy plus seat and
I'm and I'm sitting in Economy and it's like you're
you're asking for me to inconvenience myself further and you
want something from me. I think you're allowed to throw
the flag on this one, Like I think you're allowed
to have the seat that you the seat that you
paid for that you want.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
What I would add to Sean Duffie this would be fun.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
What I would add to Sean Duffy's request, do not
recline your seats, because really what you're talking about, Buck
is we're roughly six feet tall. If you're in a
coach class seat, which the vast majority of the time
I am and somebody reclines their seat on you when
you're about six feet tall, and God forbid some of
(26:58):
you out there that are like six five or six
four taller guys, you basically cannot move. I try to
work a lot of times, Like with my laptop, I
fly Southwest Airlines all the time because it's the easiest
airline to fly out at. Now.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I can't believe they don't sponsor us yet You've given
Southwest so many shout outs on this show, Southwest Marketing,
Come on, step up.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
This is true. I don't know what was that up
in the air where the guy wants to get the
meeting from Sam. Remember the George Club.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It's pretty good movie up in the air where the
guy I think it was, who's the airplane pilot has
the amazing voice Sam, you know what I'm talking about,
plays all the Westerns, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott, Sam Elliott
comes out if I remember correctly, and thanks thanks George
Clooney Buck I have.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't know how many people have ever gotten to
this level on Southwest Airlines. I'm not sure if this
is bragging. Some people will say, like you need to
spend your money better. I have over two million Southwest
Airlines travel points, so legitimately over two million Southwest Airlines
everywhere I try to work. As soon as someone reclines
(28:05):
the seat, you cannot move if you're about six feet
I now try to sit very front row Southwest Airlines
because there's no seat in front of me. I just
put my laptop of my lap, of my newspaper, which
I also travel with all the time. I think that
people who recline their seats are the absolute terrorists of
(28:26):
Okay Airline.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I know I'm gonna I'm gonna one up you on
this one. I think the seat reclining in economy, especially
for short flights, unless they're unless they're darkening the lights
and everyone's gonna try to get some shut eye. The
reclining seat thing, I think is excessive in economy. If
you're obviously in first class or whatever, you have more space.
That's different. So I agree with you on that though.
But Clay, I think the worst people flying these days
(28:49):
other than those who are just getting into like shouting
and punching matches, which is, you know, shameful behavior, But
the worst people flying these days are the I forgot
mine or my child's headphones. And there are headphones being
given out for free on the plane, but I don't
want to use those headphones, and I don't have my headphones,
(29:11):
so I'm just putting my iPad on speaker and just
letting it rip. I would walk with a bucket of
cold water up and down the aisles for free for
any of these airlines and pour it on offenders in
this category because they deserve it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That doesn't bother me as much. You notice sound, of.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Course, not you barburying, No, I just I don't notice
sound that much. Like I think I can like zone out,
so when there's crazy chaos around me, like I just
don't pick up all.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think I have misophonia. I think annoying sounds drive
me insane, and it's like a thing because I'm not good.
You notice it way way more to than Like I've
given extra headphones to people sitting around me on planes
and been like and been like, just take it, please,
just take it and use it.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Okay, it's yours. Now. I carried an extra one that
was unused just for this purpose.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I love that, because you're trying to civilize the world
based on just covering carrying extra What I will say
about their recliners, going back to the terrorist of airlines,
these are non actual terrorists, but they tend to not
be very big people. And so if you're like seven
feet tall and you're in front of me and you
recline your seat, I'll look and I'll be like, Okay,
(30:24):
you're just trying to make this a flight that you
can survive. The number of people that are like my
wife's size, like five two, five three, you actually have
plenty of space if you are a relatively normal sized
woman on an airplane, if you're a normal.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Sized dude, you do not.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The number of small people who recline their seats, I
think that layers another ad terrorist. So if I wish
the seats didn't recline. Now to your point, if you're
on an overnight flight, if it's a red eye, if
everybody's going to sleep, obviously that's different. But if I'm
getting a flight at noon and I sit down, and
(31:03):
let's say I'm flying to LA on Southwest Airlines, as
I have done innumerable times over the years, the number
of people that will immediately recline their seat in front
of you, it's staggering to me it truly is.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I like this Sean. I like this Sean Duffy campaign.
I think the restoration of manners in American daily life
is a very worthy pursuit. I think please and thank
you are our foundational elements for civilization, and we should
be pushing on all on all these things. You know,
I'm all in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Buck. When we come back.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
This is something that I was texting with Buck about
last night. President Trump has an entertainment request that I
think is going to entertain all of you. He wants
a certain type of movie to be made new. We
will discuss so when we come back in the meantime.
I love prize picks. I love football. I don't know
if Buck's going to watch any this. I was looking
(32:01):
at the slate of NFL games on Thanksgiving and then
college football games on Friday and Saturday, and I was
actually talking about this with my fifteen year old last night,
and I said, I don't even know if we're going
to leave the house other than to maybe go outside
and throw football some The amount of incredible games that
are coming Thanksgiving Day, after the Friday and Saturday for
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those of us that are football fans, is off the
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Speaker 2 (33:14):
All right, we're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck.
I'm out tomorrow, so I'm traveling up to ny See.
Mister Clay will have the con Saint Clay. He will
bring you all of his blessings courtesy of his.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
New friend, the Pope. And so there we go.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
We'll get into some of that and also getting some
of your talkbacks and some of your final calls here.
But first, Clay, I love explain everybody Trump's taste in
movies because it's like he rated the Sexton Boys VHS
collection from the nineties. Trump has great taste in movies
and he wants to make movies great again. I saw
(33:51):
this and I texted it to Buck last night. This
is from Semaphore. It's a media company that is out there,
and they move into the relationship between Trump and Larry
Ellison and David Ellison, who now run Paramount, and they
said that Trump has gotten involved in suggesting new movies,
(34:13):
and in particular he has said that he would like
to see more Rush hour movies, more buddy cop movies,
as as it pertains to going forward Paramount like for
those of you who remember, and that he considers the
best movies to have been made in the eighties and nineties,
including Bucks movie that is at the very top of
(34:35):
his all time list, Blood Sport, which Sport the Van did,
the best van damn movie. I would say, the best
martial arts movie ever made.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Uh. It is a phenomenal movie. And I love the
Semaphore thing.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It says that Trump watches it, but he sometimes fast forwards.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Just to watch the flight scenes. I love Trump, He's
the best.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's the New Yorker profile piece. They said that Trump
had a reporter on the plane with him. This is
back from like nineteen ninety seven, and he had one
of his sons just fast forwarding to all of the
best fight scenes so they could watch it in forty
five minutes, as opposed to Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
The funny thing is every American male in every American
male who just not to self describe as a male feminist,
reads that and goes, yeah, you know, I sometimes just
watched the fights. He's like totally normal. If you're a
New Yorker reporter, this is just you're a ruffian, a philistine.
How could you just go and watch the fight scenes
(35:33):
in blood Sport. It's a great movie, dude, It's a
great Steven Miller of the White House told us on
this show it's his favorite movie. Oh yeah, it's like
a top five for me. I wouldn't say it's all.
It's not number one, number one, but it's a great,
great film. I love that Trump loves it. Sissy said
it the IP email.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
By the way, Clay, the last time you lost your
temper was July thirteenth, when Trump was almost assassinated.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I saved your Instagram rant.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It helps me to watch it on days when I
get frustrated with the Left. I was furious that day
because we had just talked about the fact that it
was so inevitable that they were going to try to
kill Trump and furious about it. Jeff and Chandler Arizona.
He's a terrorist. Ff, you can play it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Sorry, guys, hate to disagree with you because I agree
with you on so many things. But does the button
on the chair work and if you press it to
the chair go back?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
If the answer is yes, then it's meant to be refined. Sorry. Okay, Jack,
gonna be mind discomfort.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
If you're gonna be if you're gonna be a chair terrorist,
that's on you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know what can we say?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Don't recline, don't recline, be concerned about the status of.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
The world, be a good human.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Keep your seat back up for Thanksgiving travel, We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Tomorrow and Wednesday with all of you. Thanks for hanging
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