November 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a wide range of cultural and political topics, offering bold commentary and sharp analysis. The hour opens with reflections on the end of the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, with Clay and Buck criticizing Democrats for what they describe as a performative and damaging political stunt. The hosts argue that the shutdown achieved little beyond public frustration and economic disruption. The conversation shifts to pop culture as Kim Kardashian’s repeated attempts to pass the California bar exam are discussed. While acknowledging her billionaire status, the hosts commend her persistence and ambition, contrasting it with what they perceive as a lack of humility and gratitude from former First Lady Michelle Obama. A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to a critical examination of Michelle Obama’s public statements, her Princeton thesis, and her perceived victimhood narrative. The hosts argue that the Obama family received unprecedented media grace and support, especially compared to other presidential families, including the Bushes, Clintons, and the current First Family under President Donald Trump. The show also explores the controversial topic of transgender athletes in women’s sports, spotlighting the International Olympic Committee’s evolving stance on eligibility criteria. Clay and Buck highlight the biological advantages of male athletes who identify as female and criticize what they see as the erosion of fairness in competitive sports. They reference high-profile cases like Lia Thomas and discuss broader implications for the integrity of women’s athletics, praising President Trump’s position on protecting women’s sports categories. Listeners also hear about Clay’s new book Balls, which blends autobiography with cultural critique, particularly focusing on the politicization of sports and the decline of meritocracy. The hosts celebrate its strong sales and potential placement on the New York Times bestseller list, encouraging fans to support the audiobook version. Toward the end of the hour, the show touches on California Governor Gavin Newsom’s apparent presidential ambitions, with speculation about his positioning as a leading Democratic contender. The hosts debate his electability and compare him to other potential candidates, noting his strong donor base and national recognition. The hour wraps with listener talkbacks, humorous pop culture references—including Pee-wee Herman’s “Large Marge”—and a lighthearted exchange about Clay’s treadmill habits during the show’s video recordings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody, third hour of Clay and Bumped.
Get's going right now. We've got a bunch of things
I want to talk to you about. Obviously, the shutdown
is coming to an end, longest shutdown in our history,
and the Democrats are trying to say they fought the
good fight. Really, they threw a temper tantrum and they
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made people anxious, frustrated, and made people suffer, just because
Democrats like to do those things. They did not actually
achieve their main end, but we'll discuss that a bit
more coming up. We've also got the very very important
news that Clay reminded me of that Kim Kardashian, despite trying,
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did not pass the California bar exam. I believe she's
tried a few times at this point but has not
yet passed it. So we're hoping, we're pulling for Kim
to pass the bar exam. I think, isn't she worth
the billion dollars? So this really is just like a
personal mountain that she is trying to climb.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I we'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know. She has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
To do hard things.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And it would be very easy, to your point, Buck,
when you become a billionaire, to just say, hey, I've
got everything I could possibly want. I'm not going to
try to push myself any further. And she decided she
wanted to try to become a lawyer, and she is
attempting to do it. I would point out who was
it that failed the bar of times?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
JFK. Junior, I think if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the JFK. Junior was
going to be a rocket scientist, so that's not surprising
for what But I mean he.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Went straight to law school.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or
wherever the heck they did, completely irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They let him in because of his last name. Yes,
he could be illiterate as a Kennady and they would
have led him into Harvard Law School and he continues
to trail.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So anyway, Well, I do think everybody's trying to poke
fun at her, but I give her credit for being
willing to try to do something super hard when she
could just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you. I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could you fill the bar? Exam. Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying, and hopefully at some point
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she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady, Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
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for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years, I don't even know how many magazine covers,
has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million dollar
yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughter's on. I
don't know if you could find all in a more
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privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would be
very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like like
Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but Elon
Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the Tesla
factory building. All this stuff big cost to his personal life.
Some people hate him obviouslyaks the allied with Trump. Michelle
Obama everywhere should go. She is worshiped, worshiped by elite's
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aside and yet you when she talks about things like,
for example, how she needed to have a celebrity style
glam team when she was in the White House. This
is how she speaks of it, play eight. I didn't
really have that choices.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Firstly, every day every time I was up, as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public, yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time, you know, I know, having a glam team
a trifecta. It feels like a luxury, but it was
a times time necessity. There's absolutely no way that I
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would be able to do my hair and make up
and have clothes ready at that fit. You know, because
where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
eight Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Eye that I can see.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And every time she speaks, I like her less. And
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been coddled,
She's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
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actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And let me explain why that is. I went off.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I might have gone off more on this than almost
anybody in the country. When she wasn't willing to show
up for Jimmy Carter's funeral, to me, it was such
a personal slap in the face to every American. Look,
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president, the
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United States, or when you are married to the president
of the United States. There are certain moments that demand
to me that you show up and show the least
semblance of respect for the country that you could. Hillary
Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The Bushes
were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump and
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Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to be
willing to give a few hours of your time to
get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get off,
be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't show
up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did I
give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like a
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person that would be fun to spend time with. Buck
and I just I look at this and instead of saying,
hey boy, you know I'm from I think the South
side of Chicago. If I'm not mistaken, I grew up
and I got to be the first lady of the
United States. I married the president. What is an incredible
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story that is that you can be a kid from
the South Side of Chicago and you can grow up
to do this right. I mean, you know who's actually
leaned into that because I think he's also from the
South Side of Chicago. The Pope, the American Pope Leo.
He's talked. I've seen quite a lot about how amazing
it is that a kid who grew up on the
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South side of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I just every time.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what a be
careful here, you might need to turn down the radio.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
What a bitch? What an ungrateful bitch.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Michelle Obama is unique among all of the first ladies
of different political parties. All she does is wine and
talk like, Hey, well i have to have a glam
squad or I'm not even gonna travel with my uh
with my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
People, Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now, you
could come after me because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag Why are your sleeves too long? Those are criticisms.
The answer is because I just buy things off the rack,
and I'm not a diva, and I just I don't
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get it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Every time she speaks Buck, I just think to myself, boy,
she had an opportunity. She reminds me of the US
women's soccer team. I think there's a lot of this.
I don't think it's just unique.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
To her for left winging people.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Do you remember when Meghan Rauppino they were playing in
the World Cup and she just chose that opportunity to
take shots at President Trump said I'm not gonna go
to the White House, I'm not gonna visit, and then
she insulted him with expletives. And I'm thinking to myself,
you were on the national stage for young women everywhere
around the world who aspire to grow up and be
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great soccer play like you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How about a scintilla.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this left wing and I think it's primarily women, honestly,
which is the foundation of the Democrat Party. This left
wing hectoring, ungrateful, baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party. Buck,
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I think it's why men are done with them. Every
man out there is like, yeah, I've had to deal
with that in my life. It's like every single Democrat
woman has got her finger out and she's lecturing you
all day long. And I think a lot of women
out there listening to us right now are nodding along.
It's like the whole party is just the most annoying
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person at your job who's lecturing you about something that
she doesn't like that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the You told me it was just atrocious administration. It
is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms of
you're like, what is this? But it's Princeton educated blacks
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and the black community is her? What's her thesis? Does
anyone want to guess what it's about? The isolation and
the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as a
black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on this
her entire like her the peak, the pinnacle of her
academic life as an undergraduate was to write a hundred
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page whine about how hard it was to be black
at Princeton, which, by the way, This was in the
heyday of firmative action. She probably got about three hundred
points worth of assistance on in terms of SAT comparison,
at least two hundred plus points to get into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So said she could whine about being black at Princeton
is because she was black at Princeton and.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Being black and applying to Princeton at that time was
a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes, that
is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got into
Princeton in large part because she was a black woman.
And then she wrote a thesis about her heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general,
the protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think it was last week. It was going viral.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
She was saying something like, oh, our family never got
the grace that other families got, and I saw that clip.
Maybe we can grab it before we finished the hour,
And I'm sorry, Buck. Do you remember, as I do,
the Bush Daughters getting destroyed by national media for relatively
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minor teenager related infractions as if they were modern day,
you know, felons of an enormous magnitude. They got treated
basically this aim as Hunter. And by the way, how
about the Bidens. Now they did a lot, but Hunter
and all the other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
And Chelsea back in the day, I don't remember everybody
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bending over backwards to.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Treat Chelsea really well.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And so you look at all the other kids, I
would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated
more fairly than any children of the president have, regardless
of political party, in my whole life. And we know
we've had all these guys on the program. Do you
think the Trumps have been treated fairly like the kids?
(12:38):
I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would put them
in prison if they could, for sure, and they haven't
done anything wrong. Yes, all true.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, the Democrats tried to be clear they would It's
not just they would desire to put Trump family members
in prison. They made moves to do so.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh totally. Other people are.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Gonna say, oh, well, Hunter, yeah, committed about one hundred
felonies on his laptop. If you just click and went
and looked through any of Hunter's laptop he got insanely
favorable treatment.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation. That storywinding.
That's a joke, everybody. That's a joke.
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Speaker 2 (14:50):
We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Michelle Obama maybe should be showing more gratitude than almost
anyone in America. I mean, her family is now worth
hundreds of millions of dollars, her husband was president twice.
Maybe just talk about how amazing it is that the
country allowed that to happen, and be grateful and be
willing to sometimes show up for public events, even if
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it sometimes does not fit your Hawaiian beach vacation or
your Martha's Vineyard beach vacation. Maybe possibly just show a
little bit of sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No, we don't get that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Instead we get Michelle Obama falsely. I just laid out
all the different kids of presidents and the way those
families were treated, arguing we weren't given that same grace
that other people got.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who does she think she is crazy?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Listen, you said we were all too aware that as
a first black couple, we couldn't afford any missteps.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, and you also say as a black woman, I
was under a particularly white hot Claire, did you feel.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
That for sure you can't afford to get anything wrong
because you didn't get the at least until the country
came to know us, we didn't get the grace that
I think some other families have gone.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think that's the opposite of reality. Yes, I think
that people were more excited, and there was and I was.
Just to be clear, I was living in DC at
the time. I was very much and I might have
even been invited. I was a single guy, okay, to
some Obama inauguration parties that were happening. I went as
a plus one. I was there. I'm just saying, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You went to the Obama inauguration parties.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Just no, no, no, no, no, not the party. There were
parties in DC, and I was invited just because I
was a suave and handsome guy. Some of the ladies
were like, you got to come with me to this party. Look,
I'm not going to say that I don't like a
good party. My point is merely the fanfare around the
first family of the Obamas at the time was unlike
anything this country has ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I think you hit on what is particularly discordant about this.
It's not that she was treated unfairly. That the Obamas
were treated more fairly. They were given more grace than
probably any presidential family in history because everyone was treating
them as if they were godlike in the media.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I mean, even now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Michelle Obama's overall favorability is high because most people don't
pay attention to what she actually says. They just like
the first Lady because the first Lady is supposed to
be above politics. But again, I just ran through all
the kids of the president since we started, basically since
like nineteen ninety two. I would argue Sasha and Melay
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Obama were more fairly treated than any of them.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
More I mean, they were the media if you and
by the way, I agree with the you you know,
kids under eighteen that are part of a you know,
first family, the attack totally off limits. And even the
kids if they're not involved in the public eye in
a real way, shouldn't be anyway, but they were all
worshiped and Michelle Obama's completely rewriting history and no surprise. Look,
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we can start it with I just I just had
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it up a second ago. But all the talkbacks. Uh,
let's start with AA, a Balls reader. Let's hear go
here go Donna Augustine. She was at the beginning of
the shutdown.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
There were two goals, both of which one was.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Saying no, no, I don't know what that was. Talkback AA,
Donna in Saint Augustine, Florida. She's a balls fan, and
we wanted to hear from Donna.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I've been reading the book Balls by Clay Travis. I'm
actually really enjoying it. Enjoyed the early part of the
story about your early career and the challenges and ups
and downs. You definitely have balls. I'm impressed and enjoyed
the story. I'm also enjoying things I thought I understood
in the news, but didn't understood how the dots connected.
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So thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So Clay. Is the book semi autobiographical I have. I
did buy my copy, and I know guy who could
probably get me a free one. But I bought my
copy and I have not yet had the chance to
dive into it, but I will. So tell me give
me a little little bit of a preview here. There's
some autobiographical components.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, look, I mean, how do you end up doing
what we do? I think if you trace the Trump era.
One of the things that I really examined in the book,
and I think historically is going to matter, is how
did we lose our way in sports in particular, but
also culture to the extent where we ended up and
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congratulations the Olympics now are coming out and saying that
they're going to ban men who identify as women. But
how did we create a landscape where the book opens
with Leah Thomas winning a man winning a women's NCAA
swimming championship in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
How did that happen? It wasn't overnight, it was gradual.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They tried to and this is one reason I'm talking
to you Buck today and why I've been talking to
everybody for the past several years. They tried to turn
sports into identity politics.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
They tried to strip away the.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Meritocracy, and they tried to take away that from sports.
Best man or best woman wins and how did that happen?
How did we end up with a man winning a
women's championship? So the book kind of gets into the
history of that and traces the media evolution. And let
me say this, you guys have bought this thing to
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such an extent that we are on the precipice of
for the first time ever, me being a New York
Times bestselling author.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So they have flagged the.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Book and it's going to be like right on the
border of whether we end up on the Times List.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Now, look, we've been.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The last book I wrote was a Wall Street Journal bestseller,
Publishers Weekly, USA Today List, all of those things. But
the Times List is what gets a book in the
front of a bookstore. It's what gets people maybe to
engage with a book that they otherwise wouldn't. So I
have a lot of immense gratitude. Obviously, a lot of
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people bought signed copies.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So far, so good.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's been six days, so but you guys have bought
thousands and thousands of copies. And you know what else,
a lot of you have bought the audiobook. And Buck,
I'm telling you, on your Christmas break, when you go
into that studio and you start recording it, you're gonna
be thankful for anybody who buys the audiobook, because recording
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the book yourself is an incredible grind. Of an effort,
particularly because you're just in a room by yourself, and
every word they're fixing, they're making sure that you read
it correctly, and so to the extent you want more
from me, there is six over six hours of me
reading every word of this book.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I'm betting it'll take you. It takes about.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Fifteen hours probably to record six, so a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That sounds like a lot of fun. Now we have
this from Reuter's this morning, Clay. No decision yet on
transgender athletes games eligibility, IOC International Olympic Committee says, but
they are moving to Titan eligibility criteria in a shift
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in sentiment that the IOC appears increasingly willing to get
on board with. Did a you turn in June? I'm
reading again from the Reuters report here deciding to take
the lead and setting eligibility criteria or participation of transgender athletes.
Coventry set up the Protection of the Female Category Working Group.
This is really what we've come to. Protection of the
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Female category, made up of experts as well as representatives.
An update. So what I'm seeing here, which is interesting
is that they know that this is going to be
preposterous and destroy the interest and love of the Olympics,
which the Olympics has been around for like three thousand years,
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I think something like that. I think it's eight hundred
bcs around there. You had the first Olympics in ancient Greece,
so it has been a long time this thing's been
going on, right, It's actually one of our oldest cultural
traditions that I'm aware of. And they realized that some
three hundred pound guy that would be very big, some
two hundred pound guy setting the women's record and shot
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put while he's like, you know, curling his beard is
probably going to hurt our sense as to how fair
this is. And yet now they're starting to say, well,
what about women who have the sry gene and the
Y chromosoon.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I want to be very clear.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
The trans movement has explicitly thought against trans identification having
anything to do with chromosomes or anything else. Yes, But
now with the Olympics, they're trying to play this game
of oh, well, what about people that have this very
rare mutation. What's a whole On a second, that's not
when when Trump banned men playing women's sports, it's dudes
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just say they're women that's what everyone's really talking about,
because if you make it about those chromosomes, the dudes
who say they're women don't count. So they're trying to
have it. But it looks to me a little bit
like they're trying to play both sides of this well.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Also, I don't think you can divorce from this decision
the fact that the Olympics are taking place, the Summer Olympics,
which is where this becomes, at least so far, the
biggest issue in LA. So Trump has already come out
and said, hey, this idea of men competing in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Did you see the powerlifter?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, this dude is I mean it's a monster dude.
It's like the Mountain from Game of Thrones suddenly deciding
to identify as a chick.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Isn't it interesting that any.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Athlete that is pretending that he is female, we can
see a picture and pick out who the dude is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, it's difficult at all. Right, you see it?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And I shared that video with you recently of the
volleyball player. The guy looks like Kobe Bryant soaring through
the air to spike the volleyball. Women's volleyball nets are lower,
women's basketballs are smaller. The entire physics of the sport
is very often different. I can't believe that this is
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where we are, that this is considered a victory. Remember
it was only a couple of years ago that the
dude boxer, two potential dude boxers won women's gold medals,
and now they won't take the gender test and they
don't qualify because and people say, well, this is really
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unfortunate because it invades their privacy.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's a cheek swab.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
A cheek swab is how they do genetic analysis to
determine what your chromosomal breakdown is. Now, some of these guys,
we don't need cheek swabs. We could have crocodile done detests,
but cheek swab. It's not like you're having to disrobe
or there's some doctor like probing your physical body. They
just cheek swab you and you either are or or
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not qualified to be a woman. And remember this is
only for men who identify as women. If biology wasn't real,
there'd be all these chicks deciding they were dudes competing
in the Olympics and competing in men's sports. Why isn't
that happening because biology is real and those women who
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identify as men are nowhere near big, strong, or fast.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Enough to compete.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Isn't that interesting that you never have a female to
male transition who automatically gets a gold medal? Is almost
like we're proving the experiment in reverse. Right, we all
know what's going on here. But I've always thought that
this is what would happen, is that the moment that
they're really cornered on this issue, which is that they're
just cornered by reality, they'll start to say, well, what
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about people who are intersex or have this rare chromosomal
They say what about the science? Say okay, are we
talking about that? Or are we And even still I
might add there's a science argument if you have male
chromosomes and the physical advantages of male testosterone, you should
only be able to compete against men. It's actually not
that complicated. Yes, right, And so there's that. But what
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they're trying to do is create a gray area here
so that then they can expand that gray area to
include macho man Randy Savage, so to peak, being like,
I'm not here to talk about my transition.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That is the South Park win that ended up being
reality and buck here is an easy way to kind
of sum it up. Men just have not been willing
to go for this. Think about this for a minute.
They just put you know, eight guys or whatever it
was on the cover of Glamour mag There have been
a bunch of men identifying as women who have.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Become Woman of the Year in the first year. They're women.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, what an insult to women that is? There
isn't I would argue, maybe one of you can come
up with one. I don't think there is a single
woman who has decided to identify as a man that
has in any way been more successful or extremely accepted
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by the male community. We're just saying, hey, we don't
play this game. No woman who becomes a man in
the first year is the man of the year. The
only person I can hardly even think about is the
uh Ellen Page And she basically destroyed her acting career.
She was actually a kind of a cute successful actress,
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remember her from back in the day. She had several
different movies and then decided that actually, my name's Elliott
Page and I'm a dude, and basically vanished to a
larger and if she had stayed Ellie Ellen Page probably
has another twenty years of Hollywood success. Instead becomes the
dude and people are like, yeah, whatever, I'm not really going.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
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Speaker 3 (31:32):
Closing up shop Monday edition of the program. Thanks to
all of you for hanging out with us. Our good
buddy Gavin Newsom is weighing in already, not even hiding
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
He says that it is incumbent upon him that he
needs to run for president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Of course, play cut nineteen and this.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Is the Election Rigging Response Act. This was not a
fight shows this is a fight we felt was important
to fight. Promposition fifty was never on the docket, was
not part of the agenda for me, though. It goes
back further, goes back to the federalization of the National Guard.
Now I want to mind folks it's not two or
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three hundred in California's four thousand National Guard were federalized.
Seven hundred active duty Marines were not sent overseas. They
were sent to the second largest city in the United
States of America.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yes, and it's it's that Gavin Newsom is being called
to it Bucket's not that he wants to be president.
It's that he has no other obligation or responsibility to
the nation.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
That's what's motivating all of this. We got to talk
to Uncle Bill on this Thursday because I saw him
on Bill Maher and he said Gavin Newsom has no shot. Now,
I'd like to agree with that. I don't think that
that's the way this is going to play out. Well,
oh oh oh, Uncle Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
About a lot he's wrong on this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think that Gavin Newsom has to be considered at
this point in time a presumptive nominee favorite.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Doesn't mean that he's going to be the nominee.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Lots can change between now and twenty twenty seven and
twenty twenty eight when that decision is made. But I
don't even know who you would put as a close
second right now when it comes to who's most likely
to be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't see anybody else who's going to be able
to compete with them. It was interesting because it's mirrored
the discussion they had because I saw some clips of
Bill on with well Bill O'Reilly on with Bill Maherk,
and they were saying I think he said, Wes Moore,
you got a lot of work to do in not
that much time to make Americans know who Wes Moore
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actually is. And I don't see it. Everybody knows who
Gavin Newsom is and he starts out with a lot
of Electoral College votes in his back pocket, with California
and and a huge donor network and all the round it.
Let's get to some of these talkbacks and VIPs, I
might add Clay. I like this one BB podcast listener, Steve.
Let's hear what he has to say.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Hey, Buck, this is just because you mentioned big trouble
in little China. This is Jack Burton, come and at
you on a dark and stormy nod from the Pork
Shop Express. I'll tell you when the Democrats shut down
the government and the heaven shake so hard that Nancy
Pelosi's face actually moves, I just tell him I listen
to Clay and Buck give me your best shot Punk.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Very well done. And I would just say that of
all the depictions of a of a trucker on radio,
Jack Burton in Big Trouble Little China is one of
my favorites. And that is a bizarre movie. It is
a completely bizarre movie that I still think is a
lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm gonna go off the radar for great depictions of
truckers and movies. Pee Wee Herman, remember the scary woman
truck driver that terrifies Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Oh I do that is? Was it Marge? I think?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, Large Marge on the You don't remember Large Marche
back in the day on the Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Uh, producer Mike just jumped in with that like he
watched it last Yeah, I'm at a loss here. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Marge was an iconic truck driver back in the day.
If you were watching the the Pee Wee Herman show.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
We need we need one of these, uh, you know,
trans powerlifters to be called Large March just as so
everybody knows that is actually a great nickname for one
of the powerlifters.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
This is also by the way we It's reminded me
that as we start to put up the video version
of the program, we would encourage you to go subscribe
at YouTube. Being able to put in photos like this
where we talk about large Marge and somebody on the
team is able to just boom remind everybody. I think
there's a lot of you out there remembering that very
scary scene from Pee Wee Herman VIP email from Kathy
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on the treadmill, Clay, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You look like an eight year old.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Who has to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
This is ridiculous. I'm getting nauseous watching you bobbing and weaving.
It is. Actually, we're gonna have to talk about this here.
It is. I'm getting nauseous too, and I have to
look at you for three hours.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So we're gonna have to figure someone out my health.
Think about all of the calories that I'm burning.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
You've burned like thirty calories.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I've walked like four miles today.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Uh yeah, Anyway, we're trying to build a YouTube feed,
not not kill it. So uh we'll discuss what's her name,
Kathy not a fan, guys, We'll have a great show
for you tomorrow, looking forward to it, and we will
certainly talk to you then and large. March sens your regards.
Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody, third hour of Clay and Bumped.
Get's going right now. We've got a bunch of things
I want to talk to you about. Obviously, the shutdown
is coming to an end, longest shutdown in our history,
and the Democrats are trying to say they fought the
good fight. Really, they threw a temper tantrum and they
(00:23):
made people anxious, frustrated, and made people suffer, just because
Democrats like to do those things. They did not actually
achieve their main end, but we'll discuss that a bit
more coming up. We've also got the very very important
news that Clay reminded me of that Kim Kardashian, despite trying,
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did not pass the California bar exam. I believe she's
tried a few times at this point but has not
yet passed it. So we're hoping, we're pulling for Kim
to pass the bar exam. I think, isn't she worth
the billion dollars? So this really is just like a
personal mountain that she is trying to climb.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I we'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know. She has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
To do hard things.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And it would be very easy, to your point, Buck,
when you become a billionaire, to just say, hey, I've
got everything I could possibly want. I'm not going to
try to push myself any further. And she decided she
wanted to try to become a lawyer, and she is
attempting to do it. I would point out who was
it that failed the bar of times?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
JFK. Junior, I think if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the JFK. Junior was
going to be a rocket scientist, so that's not surprising
for what But I mean he.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Went straight to law school.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or
wherever the heck they did, completely irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They let him in because of his last name. Yes,
he could be illiterate as a Kennady and they would
have led him into Harvard Law School and he continues
to trail.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So anyway, Well, I do think everybody's trying to poke
fun at her, but I give her credit for being
willing to try to do something super hard when she
could just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you. I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could you fill the bar? Exam. Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying, and hopefully at some point
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she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady, Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
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for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years, I don't even know how many magazine covers,
has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million dollar
yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughter's on. I
don't know if you could find all in a more
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privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would be
very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like like
Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but Elon
Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the Tesla
factory building. All this stuff big cost to his personal life.
Some people hate him obviouslyaks the allied with Trump. Michelle
Obama everywhere should go. She is worshiped, worshiped by elite's
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aside and yet you when she talks about things like,
for example, how she needed to have a celebrity style
glam team when she was in the White House. This
is how she speaks of it, play eight. I didn't
really have that choices.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Firstly, every day every time I was up, as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public, yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time, you know, I know, having a glam team
a trifecta. It feels like a luxury, but it was
a times time necessity. There's absolutely no way that I
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would be able to do my hair and make up
and have clothes ready at that fit. You know, because
where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
eight Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Eye that I can see.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And every time she speaks, I like her less. And
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been coddled,
She's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
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actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And let me explain why that is. I went off.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I might have gone off more on this than almost
anybody in the country. When she wasn't willing to show
up for Jimmy Carter's funeral, to me, it was such
a personal slap in the face to every American. Look,
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president, the
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United States, or when you are married to the president
of the United States. There are certain moments that demand
to me that you show up and show the least
semblance of respect for the country that you could. Hillary
Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The Bushes
were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump and
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Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to be
willing to give a few hours of your time to
get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get off,
be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't show
up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did I
give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like a
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person that would be fun to spend time with. Buck
and I just I look at this and instead of saying,
hey boy, you know I'm from I think the South
side of Chicago. If I'm not mistaken, I grew up
and I got to be the first lady of the
United States. I married the president. What is an incredible
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story that is that you can be a kid from
the South Side of Chicago and you can grow up
to do this right. I mean, you know who's actually
leaned into that because I think he's also from the
South Side of Chicago. The Pope, the American Pope Leo.
He's talked. I've seen quite a lot about how amazing
it is that a kid who grew up on the
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South side of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I just every time.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what a be
careful here, you might need to turn down the radio.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
What a bitch? What an ungrateful bitch.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Michelle Obama is unique among all of the first ladies
of different political parties. All she does is wine and
talk like, Hey, well i have to have a glam
squad or I'm not even gonna travel with my uh
with my wardrobe.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
People, Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now, you
could come after me because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag Why are your sleeves too long? Those are criticisms.
The answer is because I just buy things off the rack,
and I'm not a diva, and I just I don't
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get it.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Every time she speaks Buck, I just think to myself, boy,
she had an opportunity. She reminds me of the US
women's soccer team. I think there's a lot of this.
I don't think it's just unique.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
To her for left winging people.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Do you remember when Meghan Rauppino they were playing in
the World Cup and she just chose that opportunity to
take shots at President Trump said I'm not gonna go
to the White House, I'm not gonna visit, and then
she insulted him with expletives. And I'm thinking to myself,
you were on the national stage for young women everywhere
around the world who aspire to grow up and be
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great soccer play like you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
How about a scintilla.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this left wing and I think it's primarily women, honestly,
which is the foundation of the Democrat Party. This left
wing hectoring, ungrateful, baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party. Buck,
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I think it's why men are done with them. Every
man out there is like, yeah, I've had to deal
with that in my life. It's like every single Democrat
woman has got her finger out and she's lecturing you
all day long. And I think a lot of women
out there listening to us right now are nodding along.
It's like the whole party is just the most annoying
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person at your job who's lecturing you about something that
she doesn't like that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the You told me it was just atrocious administration. It
is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms of
you're like, what is this? But it's Princeton educated blacks
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and the black community is her? What's her thesis? Does
anyone want to guess what it's about? The isolation and
the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as a
black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on this
her entire like her the peak, the pinnacle of her
academic life as an undergraduate was to write a hundred
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page whine about how hard it was to be black
at Princeton, which, by the way, This was in the
heyday of firmative action. She probably got about three hundred
points worth of assistance on in terms of SAT comparison,
at least two hundred plus points to get into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So said she could whine about being black at Princeton
is because she was black at Princeton and.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Being black and applying to Princeton at that time was
a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes, that
is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got into
Princeton in large part because she was a black woman.
And then she wrote a thesis about her heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general,
the protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I think it was last week. It was going viral.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
She was saying something like, oh, our family never got
the grace that other families got, and I saw that clip.
Maybe we can grab it before we finished the hour,
And I'm sorry, Buck. Do you remember, as I do,
the Bush Daughters getting destroyed by national media for relatively
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minor teenager related infractions as if they were modern day,
you know, felons of an enormous magnitude. They got treated
basically this aim as Hunter. And by the way, how
about the Bidens. Now they did a lot, but Hunter
and all the other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
And Chelsea back in the day, I don't remember everybody
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bending over backwards to.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Treat Chelsea really well.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And so you look at all the other kids, I
would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated
more fairly than any children of the president have, regardless
of political party, in my whole life. And we know
we've had all these guys on the program. Do you
think the Trumps have been treated fairly like the kids?
(12:38):
I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would put them
in prison if they could, for sure, and they haven't
done anything wrong. Yes, all true.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Well, the Democrats tried to be clear they would It's
not just they would desire to put Trump family members
in prison. They made moves to do so.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh totally. Other people are.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Gonna say, oh, well, Hunter, yeah, committed about one hundred
felonies on his laptop. If you just click and went
and looked through any of Hunter's laptop he got insanely
favorable treatment.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation. That storywinding.
That's a joke, everybody. That's a joke.
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Speaker 2 (14:50):
We're talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Michelle Obama maybe should be showing more gratitude than almost
anyone in America. I mean, her family is now worth
hundreds of millions of dollars, her husband was president twice.
Maybe just talk about how amazing it is that the
country allowed that to happen, and be grateful and be
willing to sometimes show up for public events, even if
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it sometimes does not fit your Hawaiian beach vacation or
your Martha's Vineyard beach vacation. Maybe possibly just show a
little bit of sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No, we don't get that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Instead we get Michelle Obama falsely. I just laid out
all the different kids of presidents and the way those
families were treated, arguing we weren't given that same grace
that other people got.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who does she think she is crazy?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Listen, you said we were all too aware that as
a first black couple, we couldn't afford any missteps.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, and you also say as a black woman, I
was under a particularly white hot Claire, did you feel.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
That for sure you can't afford to get anything wrong
because you didn't get the at least until the country
came to know us, we didn't get the grace that
I think some other families have gone.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I think that's the opposite of reality. Yes, I think
that people were more excited, and there was and I was.
Just to be clear, I was living in DC at
the time. I was very much and I might have
even been invited. I was a single guy, okay, to
some Obama inauguration parties that were happening. I went as
a plus one. I was there. I'm just saying, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You went to the Obama inauguration parties.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Just no, no, no, no, no, not the party. There were
parties in DC, and I was invited just because I
was a suave and handsome guy. Some of the ladies
were like, you got to come with me to this party. Look,
I'm not going to say that I don't like a
good party. My point is merely the fanfare around the
first family of the Obamas at the time was unlike
anything this country has ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I think you hit on what is particularly discordant about this.
It's not that she was treated unfairly. That the Obamas
were treated more fairly. They were given more grace than
probably any presidential family in history because everyone was treating
them as if they were godlike in the media.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I mean, even now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Michelle Obama's overall favorability is high because most people don't
pay attention to what she actually says. They just like
the first Lady because the first Lady is supposed to
be above politics. But again, I just ran through all
the kids of the president since we started, basically since
like nineteen ninety two. I would argue Sasha and Melay
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Obama were more fairly treated than any of them.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
More I mean, they were the media if you and
by the way, I agree with the you you know,
kids under eighteen that are part of a you know,
first family, the attack totally off limits. And even the
kids if they're not involved in the public eye in
a real way, shouldn't be anyway, but they were all
worshiped and Michelle Obama's completely rewriting history and no surprise. Look,
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we can start it with I just I just had
(19:07):
it up a second ago. But all the talkbacks. Uh,
let's start with AA, a Balls reader. Let's hear go
here go Donna Augustine. She was at the beginning of
the shutdown.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
There were two goals, both of which one was.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Saying no, no, I don't know what that was. Talkback AA,
Donna in Saint Augustine, Florida. She's a balls fan, and
we wanted to hear from Donna.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I've been reading the book Balls by Clay Travis. I'm
actually really enjoying it. Enjoyed the early part of the
story about your early career and the challenges and ups
and downs. You definitely have balls. I'm impressed and enjoyed
the story. I'm also enjoying things I thought I understood
in the news, but didn't understood how the dots connected.
(19:53):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So Clay. Is the book semi autobiographical I have. I
did buy my copy, and I know guy who could
probably get me a free one. But I bought my
copy and I have not yet had the chance to
dive into it, but I will. So tell me give
me a little little bit of a preview here. There's
some autobiographical components.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, look, I mean, how do you end up doing
what we do? I think if you trace the Trump era.
One of the things that I really examined in the book,
and I think historically is going to matter, is how
did we lose our way in sports in particular, but
also culture to the extent where we ended up and
(20:35):
congratulations the Olympics now are coming out and saying that
they're going to ban men who identify as women. But
how did we create a landscape where the book opens
with Leah Thomas winning a man winning a women's NCAA
swimming championship in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
How did that happen? It wasn't overnight, it was gradual.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
They tried to and this is one reason I'm talking
to you Buck today and why I've been talking to
everybody for the past several years. They tried to turn
sports into identity politics.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
They tried to strip away the.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Meritocracy, and they tried to take away that from sports.
Best man or best woman wins and how did that happen?
How did we end up with a man winning a
women's championship? So the book kind of gets into the
history of that and traces the media evolution. And let
me say this, you guys have bought this thing to
(21:33):
such an extent that we are on the precipice of
for the first time ever, me being a New York
Times bestselling author.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So they have flagged the.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Book and it's going to be like right on the
border of whether we end up on the Times List.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Now, look, we've been.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
The last book I wrote was a Wall Street Journal bestseller,
Publishers Weekly, USA Today List, all of those things. But
the Times List is what gets a book in the
front of a bookstore. It's what gets people maybe to
engage with a book that they otherwise wouldn't. So I
have a lot of immense gratitude. Obviously, a lot of
(22:12):
people bought signed copies.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So far, so good.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's been six days, so but you guys have bought
thousands and thousands of copies. And you know what else,
a lot of you have bought the audiobook. And Buck,
I'm telling you, on your Christmas break, when you go
into that studio and you start recording it, you're gonna
be thankful for anybody who buys the audiobook, because recording
(22:37):
the book yourself is an incredible grind. Of an effort,
particularly because you're just in a room by yourself, and
every word they're fixing, they're making sure that you read
it correctly, and so to the extent you want more
from me, there is six over six hours of me
reading every word of this book.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
And I'm betting it'll take you. It takes about.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Fifteen hours probably to record six, so a long time.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That sounds like a lot of fun. Now we have
this from Reuter's this morning, Clay. No decision yet on
transgender athletes games eligibility, IOC International Olympic Committee says, but
they are moving to Titan eligibility criteria in a shift
(23:26):
in sentiment that the IOC appears increasingly willing to get
on board with. Did a you turn in June? I'm
reading again from the Reuters report here deciding to take
the lead and setting eligibility criteria or participation of transgender athletes.
Coventry set up the Protection of the Female Category Working Group.
This is really what we've come to. Protection of the
(23:47):
Female category, made up of experts as well as representatives.
An update. So what I'm seeing here, which is interesting
is that they know that this is going to be
preposterous and destroy the interest and love of the Olympics,
which the Olympics has been around for like three thousand years,
(24:08):
I think something like that. I think it's eight hundred
bcs around there. You had the first Olympics in ancient Greece,
so it has been a long time this thing's been
going on, right, It's actually one of our oldest cultural
traditions that I'm aware of. And they realized that some
three hundred pound guy that would be very big, some
two hundred pound guy setting the women's record and shot
(24:30):
put while he's like, you know, curling his beard is
probably going to hurt our sense as to how fair
this is. And yet now they're starting to say, well,
what about women who have the sry gene and the
Y chromosoon.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I want to be very clear.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
The trans movement has explicitly thought against trans identification having
anything to do with chromosomes or anything else. Yes, But
now with the Olympics, they're trying to play this game
of oh, well, what about people that have this very
rare mutation. What's a whole On a second, that's not
when when Trump banned men playing women's sports, it's dudes
(25:09):
just say they're women that's what everyone's really talking about,
because if you make it about those chromosomes, the dudes
who say they're women don't count. So they're trying to
have it. But it looks to me a little bit
like they're trying to play both sides of this well.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Also, I don't think you can divorce from this decision
the fact that the Olympics are taking place, the Summer Olympics,
which is where this becomes, at least so far, the
biggest issue in LA. So Trump has already come out
and said, hey, this idea of men competing in women's sports.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Did you see the powerlifter?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I mean, this dude is I mean it's a monster dude.
It's like the Mountain from Game of Thrones suddenly deciding
to identify as a chick.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Isn't it interesting that any.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Athlete that is pretending that he is female, we can
see a picture and pick out who the dude is.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, it's difficult at all. Right, you see it?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And I shared that video with you recently of the
volleyball player. The guy looks like Kobe Bryant soaring through
the air to spike the volleyball. Women's volleyball nets are lower,
women's basketballs are smaller. The entire physics of the sport
is very often different. I can't believe that this is
(26:31):
where we are, that this is considered a victory. Remember
it was only a couple of years ago that the
dude boxer, two potential dude boxers won women's gold medals,
and now they won't take the gender test and they
don't qualify because and people say, well, this is really
(26:53):
unfortunate because it invades their privacy.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's a cheek swab.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
A cheek swab is how they do genetic analysis to
determine what your chromosomal breakdown is. Now, some of these guys,
we don't need cheek swabs. We could have crocodile done detests,
but cheek swab. It's not like you're having to disrobe
or there's some doctor like probing your physical body. They
just cheek swab you and you either are or or
(27:19):
not qualified to be a woman. And remember this is
only for men who identify as women. If biology wasn't real,
there'd be all these chicks deciding they were dudes competing
in the Olympics and competing in men's sports. Why isn't
that happening because biology is real and those women who
(27:40):
identify as men are nowhere near big, strong, or fast.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Enough to compete.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Isn't that interesting that you never have a female to
male transition who automatically gets a gold medal? Is almost
like we're proving the experiment in reverse. Right, we all
know what's going on here. But I've always thought that
this is what would happen, is that the moment that
they're really cornered on this issue, which is that they're
just cornered by reality, they'll start to say, well, what
(28:07):
about people who are intersex or have this rare chromosomal
They say what about the science? Say okay, are we
talking about that? Or are we And even still I
might add there's a science argument if you have male
chromosomes and the physical advantages of male testosterone, you should
only be able to compete against men. It's actually not
that complicated. Yes, right, And so there's that. But what
(28:31):
they're trying to do is create a gray area here
so that then they can expand that gray area to
include macho man Randy Savage, so to peak, being like,
I'm not here to talk about my transition.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
That is the South Park win that ended up being
reality and buck here is an easy way to kind
of sum it up. Men just have not been willing
to go for this. Think about this for a minute.
They just put you know, eight guys or whatever it
was on the cover of Glamour mag There have been
a bunch of men identifying as women who have.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Become Woman of the Year in the first year. They're women.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, what an insult to women that is? There
isn't I would argue, maybe one of you can come
up with one. I don't think there is a single
woman who has decided to identify as a man that
has in any way been more successful or extremely accepted
(29:28):
by the male community. We're just saying, hey, we don't
play this game. No woman who becomes a man in
the first year is the man of the year. The
only person I can hardly even think about is the
uh Ellen Page And she basically destroyed her acting career.
She was actually a kind of a cute successful actress,
(29:49):
remember her from back in the day. She had several
different movies and then decided that actually, my name's Elliott
Page and I'm a dude, and basically vanished to a
larger and if she had stayed Ellie Ellen Page probably
has another twenty years of Hollywood success. Instead becomes the
dude and people are like, yeah, whatever, I'm not really going.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
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Speaker 3 (31:32):
Closing up shop Monday edition of the program. Thanks to
all of you for hanging out with us. Our good
buddy Gavin Newsom is weighing in already, not even hiding
it anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
He says that it is incumbent upon him that he
needs to run for president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Of course, play cut nineteen and this.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Is the Election Rigging Response Act. This was not a
fight shows this is a fight we felt was important
to fight. Promposition fifty was never on the docket, was
not part of the agenda for me, though. It goes
back further, goes back to the federalization of the National Guard.
Now I want to mind folks it's not two or
(32:16):
three hundred in California's four thousand National Guard were federalized.
Seven hundred active duty Marines were not sent overseas. They
were sent to the second largest city in the United
States of America.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yes, and it's it's that Gavin Newsom is being called
to it Bucket's not that he wants to be president.
It's that he has no other obligation or responsibility to
the nation.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
That's what's motivating all of this. We got to talk
to Uncle Bill on this Thursday because I saw him
on Bill Maher and he said Gavin Newsom has no shot. Now,
I'd like to agree with that. I don't think that
that's the way this is going to play out. Well,
oh oh oh, Uncle Bill.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
About a lot he's wrong on this.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think that Gavin Newsom has to be considered at
this point in time a presumptive nominee favorite.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Doesn't mean that he's going to be the nominee.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Lots can change between now and twenty twenty seven and
twenty twenty eight when that decision is made. But I
don't even know who you would put as a close
second right now when it comes to who's most likely
to be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't see anybody else who's going to be able
to compete with them. It was interesting because it's mirrored
the discussion they had because I saw some clips of
Bill on with well Bill O'Reilly on with Bill Maherk,
and they were saying I think he said, Wes Moore,
you got a lot of work to do in not
that much time to make Americans know who Wes Moore
(33:48):
actually is. And I don't see it. Everybody knows who
Gavin Newsom is and he starts out with a lot
of Electoral College votes in his back pocket, with California
and and a huge donor network and all the round it.
Let's get to some of these talkbacks and VIPs, I
might add Clay. I like this one BB podcast listener, Steve.
Let's hear what he has to say.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Hey, Buck, this is just because you mentioned big trouble
in little China. This is Jack Burton, come and at
you on a dark and stormy nod from the Pork
Shop Express. I'll tell you when the Democrats shut down
the government and the heaven shake so hard that Nancy
Pelosi's face actually moves, I just tell him I listen
to Clay and Buck give me your best shot Punk.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Very well done. And I would just say that of
all the depictions of a of a trucker on radio,
Jack Burton in Big Trouble Little China is one of
my favorites. And that is a bizarre movie. It is
a completely bizarre movie that I still think is a
lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I'm gonna go off the radar for great depictions of
truckers and movies. Pee Wee Herman, remember the scary woman
truck driver that terrifies Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Oh I do that is? Was it Marge? I think?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, Large Marge on the You don't remember Large Marche
back in the day on the Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Uh, producer Mike just jumped in with that like he
watched it last Yeah, I'm at a loss here. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Marge was an iconic truck driver back in the day.
If you were watching the the Pee Wee Herman show.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
We need we need one of these, uh, you know,
trans powerlifters to be called Large March just as so
everybody knows that is actually a great nickname for one
of the powerlifters.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
This is also by the way we It's reminded me
that as we start to put up the video version
of the program, we would encourage you to go subscribe
at YouTube. Being able to put in photos like this
where we talk about large Marge and somebody on the
team is able to just boom remind everybody. I think
there's a lot of you out there remembering that very
scary scene from Pee Wee Herman VIP email from Kathy
(35:58):
on the treadmill, Clay, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You look like an eight year old.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Who has to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
This is ridiculous. I'm getting nauseous watching you bobbing and weaving.
It is. Actually, we're gonna have to talk about this here.
It is. I'm getting nauseous too, and I have to
look at you for three hours.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So we're gonna have to figure someone out my health.
Think about all of the calories that I'm burning.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
You've burned like thirty calories.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I've walked like four miles today.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Uh yeah, Anyway, we're trying to build a YouTube feed,
not not kill it. So uh we'll discuss what's her name,
Kathy not a fan, guys, We'll have a great show
for you tomorrow, looking forward to it, and we will
certainly talk to you then and large. March sens your regards.
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