July 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of breaking news, political commentary, cultural analysis, and sports insight. The hour opens with the announcement of the passing of wrestling legend Hulk Hogan at age 71, prompting reflections on his cultural impact and legacy in American entertainment.
Clay Travis then dives into the latest developments in the Russiagate hoax, referencing new revelations from Tulsi Gabbard and emphasizing the long-term media and political implications. He also discusses the controversial decision by an Obama-appointed judge to block the release of grand jury testimony related to Jeffrey Epstein, highlighting ongoing concerns about transparency and justice.
A major segment is dedicated to critiquing Sunny Hostin of The View, particularly her comments on Stephen Colbert’s potential firing and its supposed threat to democracy. Travis challenges her legal credibility, sparking a broader conversation about First Amendment rights, media accountability, and the economics of entertainment. He contrasts Colbert’s financial losses with the massive $1.5 billion deal awarded to South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, underscoring the market-driven nature of media success.
The show also features an exclusive interview with Congressman Brian Jack of Georgia’s 3rd District. Jack, a former Trump White House official, discusses his newly introduced Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act, aimed at revitalizing professional boxing in the U.S. by modernizing outdated legislation. He emphasizes the need for innovation, athlete protections, and restoring boxing’s cultural relevance, with support from Lonnie Ali and the Association of Boxing Commissions.
In a sports-meets-politics crossover, Travis praises NFL coach John Harbaugh for defending his visit to President Trump amid media scrutiny, calling it a “home run” response and a sign of shifting cultural courage in sports. The segment also touches on the resurgence of UFC and WWE, the decline of boxing, and the importance of American athletes reclaiming dominance in combat sports.
The hour wraps with commentary on Hunter Biden’s media presence, speculation about his political ambitions, and skepticism over Joe Biden’s $10 million memoir deal. Clay also critiques Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin’s sports analogy gaffe, humorously pointing out her confusion between the Super Bowl and the college football national championship.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck traveling
to New York City for his dad's birthday. He just
texted me that the first ever flight with their baby
boy has been taken care of and that he slept
like a baby. The baby did the entire flight zero issue.
(00:22):
So that is flight number one for the Sexton family
as a trio. He is in New York City. All
going well. He'll be back with me on Monday. Breaking
news as we started the show, sad news, especially for
those of you who grew up watching hul Cogan back
in the day. Seventy one years old. Hul Cogan passes.
(00:43):
That just happened in the last couple of hours. If
you want to give us a talk back, you may
have heard several people talking about their experiences or their
memories of hul Cogan and absolute icon, true American original
spoke last year about this time in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at
the Republican National Convention. We may play you that audio
(01:04):
again in his honor as he endorsed President Trump, and
so we will continue to talk about that first hour
of the program. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast.
You will not miss anything. We talked all about the
Russiagate and why it mattered and why it was significant,
(01:25):
and where I thought things were headed. Now after the
revelations from Tulsea Gabbard yesterday, a lot of you asking
questions will continue to discuss those. I would put our
analysis of the larger Russia Gate question up against almost anyone,
maybe everyone, in all of media in terms of telling
you why it matters and where we go from here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Coming still down as the days and weeks continue. Also, Epstein,
the grand jury testimony refused to be released by Obama
appointed judge the grand jury testimony. Right now, there is
a meeting going on between Julaane Maxwell and one of
the top officials in the Department of Justice, one of
(02:13):
the deputy Attorney generals. We will find out if any
news emerges from that. Julaan Maxwell convicted of sex trafficking,
currently serving twenty years in prison as a part of
those convictions. She is in Tallahassee, Florida, and we will
give you the latest as more details emerge there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But I did want to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We got a bunch of clips out there, and we
almost talked about this yesterday, but then all the Russia
Gate news happened, and I thought this was super fascinating.
I believe, really Sunny Houston is the dumbest person who's
on television daily in media, and that might be unfair
to her because certainly there are lots of her castmates
(02:57):
on the View that give her a run, whether it's
Joey Beahar.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Woo Be Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But those people are actually comedians, and I don't know
that most of us look around and say, hey, you
know who the most brilliant people in America are comedians.
I don't necessarily look to Joy Behar or Whoope Goldberg
to be able to explain complicated things to large audiences.
Sonny Hostin, I believe has a law degree from Notre Dame.
(03:23):
Team will you confirm that that is correct? The Fighting
Irish gave Sonny Hostin a law degree. I know she
has a law degree. I think it's from Notre Dame,
but her inability to understand basic legal related issues when
she's talking to her audience suggests to me that Notre
(03:45):
Dame should ask for that law degree. Back here is
Sonny Hostin yesterday on the View saying firing Stephen Colbert
is the dismantling of our democracy and the mantling of
our constitution. Listen to cut ten.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
If it is political, this is the dismantling of our democracy.
This is the dismantling of our constitution. Right, and so
the first Amendment is the first Amendment for a reason,
and that is freedom of the press, freedom of speech,
freedom to speak truth to power. If that is taken away,
if the comedians are being attacked, then that means our
constitution is being dismantled. That means the very rubric of
(04:26):
our democracy is being dismantled. And I think every single
person should be really, really concerned about it. And if
we find out it is political, what are we going
to do as a country. We must protect our constitution,
but we must protect our demography.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
She is a moron. She does, in fact have a
law degree from Notre Dame. Notre Dame after that segment
aired should say, actually, could we please have your JD back.
I don't know if she ever passed a bar exam.
If she did, that is unbelievable. By the way, ABC,
(05:01):
I'm just getting an update. ABC got back with us
after we invited ourselves onto the view. Our producer Ali
we got an email, Hi, tomorrow is our last day
in studio for this season. The show returns in September
for the new season. We then said we would do
any day that they wanted in the new season. They
have not responded, so we at least now have made
(05:24):
contact with the View and negotiations are ongoing. And by negotiations,
I mean we are happy to go on anytime, and
they are likely to tell us that they will not
have us on anytime, but some negotiations are going. It's
kind of like how the single guys out there negotiations
to date Sidney Sweeney are going, Hey, Sidney.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Anywhere you want to go, you know, I'll.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Show up, we'll date, And Sidney Sweeney is like, yeah, okay,
probably not clamoring to date you, but if you're a
single guy, might as well shoot your shot. So basically,
we are telling the View will be there anytime, any play, anywhere,
and the View is saying, hey.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We got to wash our hair. We'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
But Sonny Hostin, I can't believe that this that a
law graduate again. I'm taking Whoopee Goldberg and Joy Behar
off the table that somebody who went to law school
for three years at a elite law school like Notre
Dame is a very good law school, could misapprehend basic
(06:28):
First Amendment and Constitution related law to go on and
talk to that audience and be that stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Look.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nobody has a constitutional right to get paid millions of
dollars to tell jokes.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If they did, that would be.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
A hell of a gig if in the Constitution it
was written, Hey, and Clay Travis gets to tell whatever
jokes he wants and everybody has to pay him millions
of dollars to do it. If that were a constitutional right,
that'd be a hell a constitutional right for me. No
one is taking away Stephen Colbert's right to free speech.
(07:07):
If tomorrow Julie Talbot, my boss and Buck's boss came
in and she said, hey, you guys are fired, nobody
would be taking away our First Amendment speech. We don't
have a First Amendment right to talk to you on
the radio every day. iHeart is a corporation and they
(07:29):
can decide, Hey, who do we think is going to
do a good show and make us money. We would
like to enter into a contract with them. If we
start doing a bad show, if we start not making
the money, then we would be gone. That's the reality.
Stephen Colbert's show lost forty million dollars. I will guarantee
(07:52):
you if this show lost one million dollars, I bet
Buck and.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I wouldn't have a job anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
If Russia's show had lost one million dollars, I bet
Rush wouldn't have had a job anymore. Anyone who talks
to large audiences for a living is obligated unless you
own the company yourself, which I do not, which Buck
does not, which Sean Hannity does not, which Glenn Beck
does not, which Jesse Kelly does not. All distributed by
(08:20):
Premiere on many of these same stations all across the nation.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
If we lose money, we're gonna lose our jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That's good. That's how the marketplace works. No one is
stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own YouTube channel. No
one is stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own podcast.
No one is stopping Stephen Colbert from telling as many
jokes at the expense of whomever he wants the punchline
(08:53):
to be for the rest of his life. All that
has happened is para out which owns CBS. They're business people,
they got out their ledger and they went down and
they said, hey, we're losing forty million dollars on this show.
Should we continue to lose forty million dollars on this
(09:17):
show forever? Maybe more as the audience continues to decline
and move online and move away from late night television.
Most business people would say, no, we're not going to
do this. Whatever you do. If you work at a
for profit business, if your mechanic shop is losing money,
(09:37):
you're probably going to fire people. If your roofer roofing
business is losing money, you're going to fire people. If
your gut or guard company is losing money, you're going
to fire people. No one has the right to be
employed for as long as they want and not have
(09:58):
the consequences of that at And for Sonny Hostin to say, oh,
our democracy, our constitution, our first amendment is at stake
if Stephen Colbert is fired because his show isn't making
money anymore, is so moronically unintelligent that I actually think
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Notre Dame should ask for their law.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Degree back.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And I think we should have an investigation into the
bar exam that Sonny Hostin passed, because if you have
that poor of an understanding of basic constitutional law. I
question how in the world you passed any bar exam.
What an unbelievable idiot. But that's the kind of arguments
(10:49):
that you are seeing now being made across the landscape.
And guess what also just happened. Paramount, the parent company
of CBS that distribute Stephen Colbert's show, just gave a million, sorry,
a billion and a half dollars to Trey Parker and
Matt Stone who do South Park, the comedic show which
(11:13):
has aired now for twenty some odd years on Comedy
Central and is also owned by Paramount. They just gave
them a new five year deal for one point five
billion dollars. And I believe I'm correct that their debut
episode for the new season just aired last night and
(11:35):
they made a lot of jokes at Donald Trump's expense.
Paramount didn't fire them. Do you know why? Because their
show makes money. And if your comedy show makes money,
my bet is that every business in America is going
to get behind you and want to make more money.
And so Sonny Hostin's on the view crazily that show
(11:58):
makes money. But if they start to lose money, guess
what's going to happen. ABC News is going to say, hey,
we don't have to do this anymore. Corporations aren't bound
to make you rich because some people happen to like
your politics. Failure to understand basic business actually is a
huge issue across the entire landscape of America.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
If you want to make more money and you aren't
at a for profit business, let me give you a
little piece of advice. On behalf of business owners everywhere,
on behalf of small business owners everywhere, make more money.
I have never seen anybody get fired who makes their
bosses a lot more money year after year. And that
(12:46):
is in fact the truth, whether Sunny Hostin knows it
or not. Poor Notre Dame Law School, please ask for
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Speaker 2 (14:48):
News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay
Travis at buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in Travis buck Sexton Show.
I want to give credit to this response that I
saw last night as I was getting ready for bed.
For those of you out there that are NFL fans,
I know Rush was a big NFL fan. Almost bought
(15:15):
an NFL team, if I remember correctly, back in the day.
John Harbaugh is the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.
His brother Jim is the head coach of the LA Chargers.
They recently went to visit President Trump in the Oval Office.
I shared a photo of that visit. They were also
there with the head of Nvidia. It was a heck
(15:37):
of a heck of a crew. And the NFL training
camps have just opened back up. It's probably not a
surprise at all that one of the very first questions
that got asked of John Harbaugh was not about, Hey,
how do you think Lamar Jackson's going to do how
do you get past Patrick Mahomes in the AFC. Instead,
(15:58):
it was how can you justify going to visit President Trump?
This is a sports media member asking John Harbaugh immediately
after the first day of practice. There's tons of sports
questions out there to ask him. No, no, no, how
can you justify going to visit President Trump? John Harbaugh
(16:20):
hit a home run with his answer. Here's cut twenty asked.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Donald Trump that said denigrating things? How fols norm putting
no games?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Who wanted to live there?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
You know as a prominent represent Well, well, how you
framed that question? I would frame the question like, you
got a chance to go visit with the president? Man,
what was that experience?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It was amazing? It was awesome, And I promise you
I root for our president. You know, I want our
president to be successful, just like I want I want
my quarterback to be successful and I want my team
to be successful. And it was. It was an amazing experience.
You know, It's it's not often you get invited and
you get a chance to do something like that. As
a family, you know, we were there, My daughter was there,
Jim's daughters were there, My mom and dad were there,
My mom and President Trump. You know, just seeing how
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he treated her was really meaningful.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, and he continued, What an absolute home run of
an answer. But this is what I've talked about. This
is where I saw them try to use sports and
take it over. You've got that loser sports media member.
The season just started. There's a billion questions you could
have for a football coach. Lead question, how in the world,
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how can you justify going to see President Trump? And
what a home run answer from John Harbaugh. I don't
particularly like the Ravens, although I do love Dereck Henry
and I like Lamar Jackson. But I'm a Titans fan
sadly and been a big rival for a long time.
But man, I love that answer, and I do think
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it's emblematic of the shifting culture that we're seeing, where
people aren't afraid of being criticized anymore. I like the
bravery that I'm seeing cross sports, pop culture, coaches and players.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
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Speaker 1 (18:01):
Sadly been talking about Hulk Coogan dying at the age
of seventy one. We never know when that moment is
gonna come. Malcolm Jamal Warner, theo On Cosby Show, died
in a awful drowning accident down in Costa Rica. Ozzy
Osbourne just passed three icons of entertainment. I hope they
had wills and trust. I know I have one because
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I don't know when my time's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
None of us know.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We'll go some more of
your talkbacks and some of your calls and emails to
close out the show. But we are going now to
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be joined by Representative Brian Jack from third Congressional District
in Georgia. Prior to joining this edition of Congress, you
worked with President Trump, and we're going to get into
a bunch of different things. But when you see all
of the stories coming out about the Russia Gate hoax
and everything that surrounds that, how impactful was that were
(19:33):
those hoaxes when Trump one point zero was underway?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What did you see in those days?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, first and foremost, as someone who listens to the show,
it's an honor to be a guest for the first
time on it, and I hope this is the first
of many conversations to come. But to your point, I
joined President Trump's campaign and in some of the earliest
days of his twenty sixteen campaign and when he went
to the White House, I served in the White House
in first the very last day of this administration. And
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while that administration set records across his agenda, this administration
is setting even more records. And I think what we
as a team learned throughout these last ten years is
to focus on the policies that matter to Americans, especially
at election time, which are the economy, which are immigration,
safety at home, and try to avoid as best you can,
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distractions that don't allow us to make our case to
the American people, and likewise don't allow us to deliver
wins to the American people. So I think we've all
endured quite a bit of those hoaxes, as you've mentioned,
and I myself and I know exception to it. And ultimately,
I think we're all excited this August to be talking
about the President's one big, beautiful bill and what we're
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going to accomplish the rest of this Congress, especially around boxing,
which is what I'm very excited about.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm going to get to that in a moment. But
you have seen, certainly the news about whole Cogan. A
lot of our audience has been reacting just an unbelievable
cultural icon from the eighties, the nineties, the two thousands.
I bet that you have some Hull Cogan memories, And
obviously last year on the stage at the RNC, what
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do you remember about the cultural icon of hul Cogan.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Sure? Well, I'm myself a big WWE fan, and was
even even bigger WCW fan back in the day. Admittedly
I was a big Goldberg fan. I actually went just
a few weeks ago to see his retirement match in Atlanta,
and it was very special for me because twenty seven
years before he retired, I also was at Hulk Versus Soldberg,
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you know the Georgia Dome ill Monday Night ago, but
I was at that show. So twenty seven years later
to have an opportunity to watch Goldberg retire was an
incredible opportunity, incredible experience, and that hadn't been said as
it relates to the Hulk coman. He to your point,
is an American icon and Frankly and I know we're
going to get into boxing, but that's what inspires me
about trying to revive boxing, this once great American sport
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that the heroes of boxing yesterday is something that inspires
me to try to get this legislation path that we
can have heroes and cultural icons like Muhammad Ali and
the sport going forward.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I mean, I think if you're around my age, you
grew up in the Mike Tyson era of boxing. Mike
Tyson was the must watch guy when I was a
kid growing up. A lot of people out there older
have different boxers that they watched. MMA has taken off.
In fact, President Trump has said next year, He's going
to have a UFC event on the south lawn of
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the White House, which I'm hoping I get to go
to because that's going to be one of the most
badass sporting events of all time. Boxing has struggled sometimes
in this culturally relevant space. WWE has monster audiences. Still,
we know that the UFC has unbelievable audience as well.
Huge percentages of our audience would be paying attention to
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those events on a regular basis, But boxing has struggled
to keep pace. Why do you think that is and
what are you trying to do to help bring boxing
back in the United States?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Well, what I find most interesting is that boxing, professional
boxing is the only sport regulated by Congress, and I
think that perhaps some of your listeners may not have
been aware of that, nor to have some of my
colleagues been aware of that. So part of this is
informing and letting people know that Congress actually has a
legitimate role in operating in the space because we have
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history here. In nineteen ninety six, Congress tried to address
some of the health and safety issues in boxing, and
they've passed the Professional Boxing Safety Act of ninety six
and two thousand Congress came back and passed the Mohammed
Ali Act, which helped address some of the corruptive nature
of the sport. I think one of the challenges in
the last twenty five years, again, it's been twenty five years,
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a quarter of a century since Congress touched and enacted
any legislation around boxing. You've seen this precipitous decline in
the sport. Viewerships down, pay per view buys are down,
and I think one of the challenges we haven't seen
innovation in this sport for twenty five years. The reason
why we have not seen innovation, and the reason why
I yesterday introduced the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act,
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is because we need to clarify existing law where it's
ambiguous so that we can usher in new types of organizations,
new types of business model, so to speak, to come
into this sport and function alongside the sanctioning organizations that
will continue to function in this sport. We want to
have more choice and more opportunities for boxers. We need
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legislation that defines who can operate in this space and
how they can operate in the space. And we've got
to clarify what's there because no innovation will not yield
the next generation of heroes what we're trying to deliver.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And I would imagine we would also like to have
more of the biggest fights in the United States, right
to the extent that we could help make that happened.
I know boxing is a global brand business now and
people pay for them to go all over the world,
but I would imagine part of that goal is to
make it possible for us to have great fights again
here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well to your point, I mean, people on the show,
you know where you were when Holyfield Tyson. You may
remember where you were in eighty five Hagler learned. So
I think that when you think about what we're trying
to accomplish here, it's to build to build consensus around
the country that we need Congress to move on this legislation.
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We've got to have an update every twenty five years,
and we need to deliver innovation opportunities for those that
are interested in operating in the sport. And innovation is
going to generate In my mind, it's going to generate
a lot of American interests in the sport. You're going
to see folks coming up and some of the safety
protections and some of the compensation enhancements that we're adding
to this bill are going to again motivate and excite
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people about wanting to get involved in the sport. It's
been seven years since American has won a gold medal.
I hope the next gold medalist is inspired by this
legislation and gets back into the ring and fights their
way to a champion.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I would love to have an American gold medal boxer.
I'd also just like to have men actually win men's
boxing and women win women's boxing. How crazy is it
that the President had to put a rule in place
so the United States Olympic Committee would say, hey, women's
sports can only be for the Olympics competed in by women.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, and again, I think that ultimately there may be
people that try to inject some of those cultural wars
into this. So this is a really sound piece of legislation,
and ultimately we have protections for male boxers and we've
protections from female boxers within this legislation. The key if
it is ensuring that we provide more opportunities for boxers
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to engage in the sport, earn better compensation in the sport.
Have greater health and safety protection. And I think anybody listening,
it's been twenty five years, a quarter of a century
we've updated boxing laws. It's long overdue. If we're able
to pass this, you're going to usher in a whole
new era of innovation that's going to revitalize and revive
the sport. And let me just also say, we call
them the Muhammad Ali Boxing Revive American Boxing Revival Act
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because we have the endorsement of Lani Ali, the wife
of Muhammad Ali. That was very special to us, and
she has a very special statement and support of it.
And we also have the endorsement of the Association of
Boxing Commissions. The ABC is considered the gold standard in
the sports. So having their input, helping learn from them
how best to shape this legislation, I think an incredible product.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Congressman, we appreciate you listening to the show. Thanks for
all the work you've done for President Trump. This sounds
like a bill that makes a lot of sense. You're
listening to Brian Jack, representing the third Congressional District of Georgia.
I hope we can keep keeping you entertained on this
and good luck with the bill.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
It was an honor speaking with you, A big fan
of yours, big fan of the show, and as a listener,
like I said, I would love to come back on,
and we expect September October will start season movement in
the committee process. But as we move toward our two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary next year, let's revive this once
great American sport.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you, no doubt, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's a Congressman Brian Jack, third Congressional District in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
More reactions to Hulk Hogan's untimely passing seventy one years old.
Also Russia Gate, and update on what's going on with Epstein.
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(31:20):
funny clips to play for you, maybe not all hugely hysterical.
But remember earlier in the week when Hunter Biden went
crazy on his interview the one year anniversary of his
dad dropping out, And I came on and Buck was like, man,
this is a crazy prediction by you. And I said,
I think Hunter Biden wants to run for president. And
(31:42):
I don't think anybody had said it at that point
yet now everybody is suddenly saying it. Here is Joe
Rogan saying Hunter Biden's a lot smarter than people give
him credit for. He could be president. This is real
cut twenty three.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
He is a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
I'll tell you that. Like he's talking and one of
the things he was talking about was why smoking things
are so addictive, why smoking cigarettes are so addictive, and
like a psychology behind it. He's not dumb, but he's
just a guy who you know, became an addict and
that's your whole life up. He'd become a subhuman when
you're junkied out all the time and you're you're that
(32:21):
dude who's like what he was doing, like making films
and driving on the gun. Ah, he was gone. He
was out there, dude, and he could be president.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
How about that he could nook Hunter Biden after all
he'd been through. Look we all his dirty laundry is
all out there. We all see it. He was a
freak just smart, smarter than his dad when his dad
was young.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And he was a crackhead, smarter than his dad when
his dad was young. And he's a crackhead, which is
a pretty good indictment of Joe Biden. Did you see
Joe Biden news came out yesterday ten million dollars for
his memoirs Advance. Who is gonna buy Joe Biden's memoirs?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Jill?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I mean, in all seriousness, I understood when Barack Obama
got a lot of money for his memoirs of saying okay,
I can see that a lot of people would buy that.
If Trump ever writes memoirs, I think that the number
of people that would buy it would be off the charts.
Joe Biden's memoirs put me down early. No one is
(33:28):
buying this book. The company that is giving him ten
million dollars, they are going to be giving away Joe
Biden's memoirs. First of all, I'm not even sure, sadly
that Joe Biden will be alive when his memoirs come out.
But I just I don't even think there is a
Joe Biden memoir audience eighty one point three million votes.
(33:50):
Can't even sell a book, can't even fill up an
arena eighty one point three million. Yeah, this is funny.
This is an email. Make sure that I get this right,
Patrick Vip emailer, Clay, you're full of great news today.
First you tell us Hulk Cogan is gone. That hit
(34:11):
me right before I was about to come on the show.
That news broke from TMZ. I'm sorry if you just
got in your car and you're just hearing it right now.
Seventy one years old, Hulk Cogan is now gone. And yes,
I started off the show. I said, Hey, I think
I got to tell you guys great feedback talkbacks from
you guys. We played some during the course of the show.
And then you tell me that my great notre dame
(34:34):
Fighting Irish gave Sonny Hoston a degree my world is gone.
And not only did they give Sonny Hoston a degree,
fation clawback her JD. I have legitimate questions about how
Sonny Hoston ever passed a bar exam based on her
legal analysis of why Stephen Colbert getting fired is actually
(34:58):
dangerous for America and our constitution. I just don't even
understand how that's remotely possible. Okay, speaking of morons. Michigan, Michigan,
you're not off the hook here. You had a super
close Senate election. The Democrat one Alissa Slotkin won.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
She is trying to make a.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Sports analogy yesterday on the Senate floor, and she said,
the Detroit Lions are going to win the National Championship
and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Only someone who has no.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Earthly idea about sports whatever, say it? Cut twenty one.
You want to wonder why Democrats are having trouble with men,
It's because they're so patently and authentic and they can't
even speak basic male culture conversational norms. Cut twenty one.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
By charting a strategy from beginning to end on how
we get through this moment, and we will for God's sakes, people,
The Detroit.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Lions are going to win the.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
National Championship and this super Bowl, and they were in
the toilet for years.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, big problem here. The National Championship is actually
for college football. It is impossible for the Detroit Lions
to win that and the Super Bowl. I would, however,
love for the Detroit Lions, on behalf of my wife,
Detroit area native Laura, and her family and friends, for
them to win the Super Bowl. But why stop there,
Senator Slotkin, why not also call for the Lions to
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win the World Series, the Stanley Cup, maybe even the
Preakness Kentucky Derby. Why stop at only one title the
Detroit Lions, Well, they could win them all, maybe even
kick the Detroit Pistons to the curb in Michigan and
win the NBA Title two. We'll win all the titles
with you on the Friday edition of the program. Thanks
(36:49):
as always for hanging with us, Rip hul Cogan
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck traveling
to New York City for his dad's birthday. He just
texted me that the first ever flight with their baby
boy has been taken care of and that he slept
like a baby. The baby did the entire flight zero issue.
(00:22):
So that is flight number one for the Sexton family
as a trio. He is in New York City. All
going well. He'll be back with me on Monday. Breaking
news as we started the show, sad news, especially for
those of you who grew up watching hul Cogan back
in the day. Seventy one years old. Hul Cogan passes.
(00:43):
That just happened in the last couple of hours. If
you want to give us a talk back, you may
have heard several people talking about their experiences or their
memories of hul Cogan and absolute icon, true American original
spoke last year about this time in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at
the Republican National Convention. We may play you that audio
(01:04):
again in his honor as he endorsed President Trump, and
so we will continue to talk about that first hour
of the program. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast.
You will not miss anything. We talked all about the
Russiagate and why it mattered and why it was significant,
(01:25):
and where I thought things were headed. Now after the
revelations from Tulsea Gabbard yesterday, a lot of you asking
questions will continue to discuss those. I would put our
analysis of the larger Russia Gate question up against almost anyone,
maybe everyone, in all of media in terms of telling
you why it matters and where we go from here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Coming still down as the days and weeks continue. Also, Epstein,
the grand jury testimony refused to be released by Obama
appointed judge the grand jury testimony. Right now, there is
a meeting going on between Julaane Maxwell and one of
the top officials in the Department of Justice, one of
(02:13):
the deputy Attorney generals. We will find out if any
news emerges from that. Julaan Maxwell convicted of sex trafficking,
currently serving twenty years in prison as a part of
those convictions. She is in Tallahassee, Florida, and we will
give you the latest as more details emerge there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But I did want to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We got a bunch of clips out there, and we
almost talked about this yesterday, but then all the Russia
Gate news happened, and I thought this was super fascinating.
I believe, really Sunny Houston is the dumbest person who's
on television daily in media, and that might be unfair
to her because certainly there are lots of her castmates
(02:57):
on the View that give her a run, whether it's
Joey Beahar.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Woo Be Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But those people are actually comedians, and I don't know
that most of us look around and say, hey, you
know who the most brilliant people in America are comedians.
I don't necessarily look to Joy Behar or Whoope Goldberg
to be able to explain complicated things to large audiences.
Sonny Hostin, I believe has a law degree from Notre Dame.
(03:23):
Team will you confirm that that is correct? The Fighting
Irish gave Sonny Hostin a law degree. I know she
has a law degree. I think it's from Notre Dame,
but her inability to understand basic legal related issues when
she's talking to her audience suggests to me that Notre
(03:45):
Dame should ask for that law degree. Back here is
Sonny Hostin yesterday on the View saying firing Stephen Colbert
is the dismantling of our democracy and the mantling of
our constitution. Listen to cut ten.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
If it is political, this is the dismantling of our democracy.
This is the dismantling of our constitution. Right, and so
the first Amendment is the first Amendment for a reason,
and that is freedom of the press, freedom of speech,
freedom to speak truth to power. If that is taken away,
if the comedians are being attacked, then that means our
constitution is being dismantled. That means the very rubric of
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our democracy is being dismantled. And I think every single
person should be really, really concerned about it. And if
we find out it is political, what are we going
to do as a country. We must protect our constitution,
but we must protect our demography.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
She is a moron. She does, in fact have a
law degree from Notre Dame. Notre Dame after that segment
aired should say, actually, could we please have your JD back.
I don't know if she ever passed a bar exam.
If she did, that is unbelievable. By the way, ABC,
(05:01):
I'm just getting an update. ABC got back with us
after we invited ourselves onto the view. Our producer Ali
we got an email, Hi, tomorrow is our last day
in studio for this season. The show returns in September
for the new season. We then said we would do
any day that they wanted in the new season. They
have not responded, so we at least now have made
(05:24):
contact with the View and negotiations are ongoing. And by negotiations,
I mean we are happy to go on anytime, and
they are likely to tell us that they will not
have us on anytime, but some negotiations are going. It's
kind of like how the single guys out there negotiations
to date Sidney Sweeney are going, Hey, Sidney.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Anywhere you want to go, you know, I'll.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Show up, we'll date, And Sidney Sweeney is like, yeah, okay,
probably not clamoring to date you, but if you're a
single guy, might as well shoot your shot. So basically,
we are telling the View will be there anytime, any play, anywhere,
and the View is saying, hey.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We got to wash our hair. We'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
But Sonny Hostin, I can't believe that this that a
law graduate again. I'm taking Whoopee Goldberg and Joy Behar
off the table that somebody who went to law school
for three years at a elite law school like Notre
Dame is a very good law school, could misapprehend basic
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First Amendment and Constitution related law to go on and
talk to that audience and be that stupid.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Look.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Nobody has a constitutional right to get paid millions of
dollars to tell jokes.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
If they did, that would be.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
A hell of a gig if in the Constitution it
was written, Hey, and Clay Travis gets to tell whatever
jokes he wants and everybody has to pay him millions
of dollars to do it. If that were a constitutional right,
that'd be a hell a constitutional right for me. No
one is taking away Stephen Colbert's right to free speech.
(07:07):
If tomorrow Julie Talbot, my boss and Buck's boss came
in and she said, hey, you guys are fired, nobody
would be taking away our First Amendment speech. We don't
have a First Amendment right to talk to you on
the radio every day. iHeart is a corporation and they
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can decide, Hey, who do we think is going to
do a good show and make us money. We would
like to enter into a contract with them. If we
start doing a bad show, if we start not making
the money, then we would be gone. That's the reality.
Stephen Colbert's show lost forty million dollars. I will guarantee
(07:52):
you if this show lost one million dollars, I bet
Buck and.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I wouldn't have a job anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
If Russia's show had lost one million dollars, I bet
Rush wouldn't have had a job anymore. Anyone who talks
to large audiences for a living is obligated unless you
own the company yourself, which I do not, which Buck
does not, which Sean Hannity does not, which Glenn Beck
does not, which Jesse Kelly does not. All distributed by
(08:20):
Premiere on many of these same stations all across the nation.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
If we lose money, we're gonna lose our jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That's good. That's how the marketplace works. No one is
stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own YouTube channel. No
one is stopping Stephen Colbert from starting his own podcast.
No one is stopping Stephen Colbert from telling as many
jokes at the expense of whomever he wants the punchline
(08:53):
to be for the rest of his life. All that
has happened is para out which owns CBS. They're business people,
they got out their ledger and they went down and
they said, hey, we're losing forty million dollars on this show.
Should we continue to lose forty million dollars on this
(09:17):
show forever? Maybe more as the audience continues to decline
and move online and move away from late night television.
Most business people would say, no, we're not going to
do this. Whatever you do. If you work at a
for profit business, if your mechanic shop is losing money,
(09:37):
you're probably going to fire people. If your roofer roofing
business is losing money, you're going to fire people. If
your gut or guard company is losing money, you're going
to fire people. No one has the right to be
employed for as long as they want and not have
(09:58):
the consequences of that at And for Sonny Hostin to say, oh,
our democracy, our constitution, our first amendment is at stake
if Stephen Colbert is fired because his show isn't making
money anymore, is so moronically unintelligent that I actually think
(10:21):
Notre Dame should ask for their law.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Degree back.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And I think we should have an investigation into the
bar exam that Sonny Hostin passed, because if you have
that poor of an understanding of basic constitutional law. I
question how in the world you passed any bar exam.
What an unbelievable idiot. But that's the kind of arguments
(10:49):
that you are seeing now being made across the landscape.
And guess what also just happened. Paramount, the parent company
of CBS that distribute Stephen Colbert's show, just gave a million, sorry,
a billion and a half dollars to Trey Parker and
Matt Stone who do South Park, the comedic show which
(11:13):
has aired now for twenty some odd years on Comedy
Central and is also owned by Paramount. They just gave
them a new five year deal for one point five
billion dollars. And I believe I'm correct that their debut
episode for the new season just aired last night and
(11:35):
they made a lot of jokes at Donald Trump's expense.
Paramount didn't fire them. Do you know why? Because their
show makes money. And if your comedy show makes money,
my bet is that every business in America is going
to get behind you and want to make more money.
And so Sonny Hostin's on the view crazily that show
(11:58):
makes money. But if they start to lose money, guess
what's going to happen. ABC News is going to say, hey,
we don't have to do this anymore. Corporations aren't bound
to make you rich because some people happen to like
your politics. Failure to understand basic business actually is a
huge issue across the entire landscape of America.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
If you want to make more money and you aren't
at a for profit business, let me give you a
little piece of advice. On behalf of business owners everywhere,
on behalf of small business owners everywhere, make more money.
I have never seen anybody get fired who makes their
bosses a lot more money year after year. And that
(12:46):
is in fact the truth, whether Sunny Hostin knows it
or not. Poor Notre Dame Law School, please ask for
your law degree to be returned because you have given
it to a moron that it is actually destroying the
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News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay
Travis at buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in Travis buck Sexton Show.
I want to give credit to this response that I
saw last night as I was getting ready for bed.
For those of you out there that are NFL fans,
I know Rush was a big NFL fan. Almost bought
(15:15):
an NFL team, if I remember correctly, back in the day.
John Harbaugh is the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens.
His brother Jim is the head coach of the LA Chargers.
They recently went to visit President Trump in the Oval Office.
I shared a photo of that visit. They were also
there with the head of Nvidia. It was a heck
(15:37):
of a heck of a crew. And the NFL training
camps have just opened back up. It's probably not a
surprise at all that one of the very first questions
that got asked of John Harbaugh was not about, Hey,
how do you think Lamar Jackson's going to do how
do you get past Patrick Mahomes in the AFC. Instead,
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it was how can you justify going to visit President Trump?
This is a sports media member asking John Harbaugh immediately
after the first day of practice. There's tons of sports
questions out there to ask him. No, no, no, how
can you justify going to visit President Trump? John Harbaugh
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hit a home run with his answer. Here's cut twenty asked.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Donald Trump that said denigrating things? How fols norm putting
no games?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Who wanted to live there?
Speaker 6 (16:29):
You know as a prominent represent Well, well, how you
framed that question? I would frame the question like, you
got a chance to go visit with the president? Man,
what was that experience?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:37):
It was amazing? It was awesome, And I promise you
I root for our president. You know, I want our
president to be successful, just like I want I want
my quarterback to be successful and I want my team
to be successful. And it was. It was an amazing experience.
You know, It's it's not often you get invited and
you get a chance to do something like that. As
a family, you know, we were there, My daughter was there,
Jim's daughters were there, My mom and dad were there,
My mom and President Trump. You know, just seeing how
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he treated her was really meaningful.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, and he continued, What an absolute home run of
an answer. But this is what I've talked about. This
is where I saw them try to use sports and
take it over. You've got that loser sports media member.
The season just started. There's a billion questions you could
have for a football coach. Lead question, how in the world,
(17:25):
how can you justify going to see President Trump? And
what a home run answer from John Harbaugh. I don't
particularly like the Ravens, although I do love Dereck Henry
and I like Lamar Jackson. But I'm a Titans fan
sadly and been a big rival for a long time.
But man, I love that answer, and I do think
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it's emblematic of the shifting culture that we're seeing, where
people aren't afraid of being criticized anymore. I like the
bravery that I'm seeing cross sports, pop culture, coaches and players.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Look, it's important to have a will or trust. We
never know.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Sadly been talking about Hulk Coogan dying at the age
of seventy one. We never know when that moment is
gonna come. Malcolm Jamal Warner, theo On Cosby Show, died
in a awful drowning accident down in Costa Rica. Ozzy
Osbourne just passed three icons of entertainment. I hope they
had wills and trust. I know I have one because
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I don't know when my time's gonna come.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
None of us know.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But I've got three boys, I've got a wife. I
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It's why I have a will and a trust. You
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us. We'll go some more of
your talkbacks and some of your calls and emails to
close out the show. But we are going now to
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be joined by Representative Brian Jack from third Congressional District
in Georgia. Prior to joining this edition of Congress, you
worked with President Trump, and we're going to get into
a bunch of different things. But when you see all
of the stories coming out about the Russia Gate hoax
and everything that surrounds that, how impactful was that were
(19:33):
those hoaxes when Trump one point zero was underway?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What did you see in those days?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, first and foremost, as someone who listens to the show,
it's an honor to be a guest for the first
time on it, and I hope this is the first
of many conversations to come. But to your point, I
joined President Trump's campaign and in some of the earliest
days of his twenty sixteen campaign and when he went
to the White House, I served in the White House
in first the very last day of this administration. And
(20:04):
while that administration set records across his agenda, this administration
is setting even more records. And I think what we
as a team learned throughout these last ten years is
to focus on the policies that matter to Americans, especially
at election time, which are the economy, which are immigration,
safety at home, and try to avoid as best you can,
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distractions that don't allow us to make our case to
the American people, and likewise don't allow us to deliver
wins to the American people. So I think we've all
endured quite a bit of those hoaxes, as you've mentioned,
and I myself and I know exception to it. And ultimately,
I think we're all excited this August to be talking
about the President's one big, beautiful bill and what we're
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going to accomplish the rest of this Congress, especially around boxing,
which is what I'm very excited about.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm going to get to that in a moment. But
you have seen, certainly the news about whole Cogan. A
lot of our audience has been reacting just an unbelievable
cultural icon from the eighties, the nineties, the two thousands.
I bet that you have some Hull Cogan memories, And
obviously last year on the stage at the RNC, what
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do you remember about the cultural icon of hul Cogan.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Sure? Well, I'm myself a big WWE fan, and was
even even bigger WCW fan back in the day. Admittedly
I was a big Goldberg fan. I actually went just
a few weeks ago to see his retirement match in Atlanta,
and it was very special for me because twenty seven
years before he retired, I also was at Hulk Versus Soldberg,
(21:42):
you know the Georgia Dome ill Monday Night ago, but
I was at that show. So twenty seven years later
to have an opportunity to watch Goldberg retire was an
incredible opportunity, incredible experience, and that hadn't been said as
it relates to the Hulk coman. He to your point,
is an American icon and Frankly and I know we're
going to get into boxing, but that's what inspires me
about trying to revive boxing, this once great American sport
(22:05):
that the heroes of boxing yesterday is something that inspires
me to try to get this legislation path that we
can have heroes and cultural icons like Muhammad Ali and
the sport going forward.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I mean, I think if you're around my age, you
grew up in the Mike Tyson era of boxing. Mike
Tyson was the must watch guy when I was a
kid growing up. A lot of people out there older
have different boxers that they watched. MMA has taken off.
In fact, President Trump has said next year, He's going
to have a UFC event on the south lawn of
(22:38):
the White House, which I'm hoping I get to go
to because that's going to be one of the most
badass sporting events of all time. Boxing has struggled sometimes
in this culturally relevant space. WWE has monster audiences. Still,
we know that the UFC has unbelievable audience as well.
Huge percentages of our audience would be paying attention to
(23:00):
those events on a regular basis, But boxing has struggled
to keep pace. Why do you think that is and
what are you trying to do to help bring boxing
back in the United States?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Well, what I find most interesting is that boxing, professional
boxing is the only sport regulated by Congress, and I
think that perhaps some of your listeners may not have
been aware of that, nor to have some of my
colleagues been aware of that. So part of this is
informing and letting people know that Congress actually has a
legitimate role in operating in the space because we have
(23:33):
history here. In nineteen ninety six, Congress tried to address
some of the health and safety issues in boxing, and
they've passed the Professional Boxing Safety Act of ninety six
and two thousand Congress came back and passed the Mohammed
Ali Act, which helped address some of the corruptive nature
of the sport. I think one of the challenges in
the last twenty five years, again, it's been twenty five years,
(23:54):
a quarter of a century since Congress touched and enacted
any legislation around boxing. You've seen this precipitous decline in
the sport. Viewerships down, pay per view buys are down,
and I think one of the challenges we haven't seen
innovation in this sport for twenty five years. The reason
why we have not seen innovation, and the reason why
I yesterday introduced the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act,
(24:17):
is because we need to clarify existing law where it's
ambiguous so that we can usher in new types of organizations,
new types of business model, so to speak, to come
into this sport and function alongside the sanctioning organizations that
will continue to function in this sport. We want to
have more choice and more opportunities for boxers. We need
(24:39):
legislation that defines who can operate in this space and
how they can operate in the space. And we've got
to clarify what's there because no innovation will not yield
the next generation of heroes what we're trying to deliver.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And I would imagine we would also like to have
more of the biggest fights in the United States, right
to the extent that we could help make that happened.
I know boxing is a global brand business now and
people pay for them to go all over the world,
but I would imagine part of that goal is to
make it possible for us to have great fights again
here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Well to your point, I mean, people on the show,
you know where you were when Holyfield Tyson. You may
remember where you were in eighty five Hagler learned. So
I think that when you think about what we're trying
to accomplish here, it's to build to build consensus around
the country that we need Congress to move on this legislation.
(25:34):
We've got to have an update every twenty five years,
and we need to deliver innovation opportunities for those that
are interested in operating in the sport. And innovation is
going to generate In my mind, it's going to generate
a lot of American interests in the sport. You're going
to see folks coming up and some of the safety
protections and some of the compensation enhancements that we're adding
to this bill are going to again motivate and excite
(25:56):
people about wanting to get involved in the sport. It's
been seven years since American has won a gold medal.
I hope the next gold medalist is inspired by this
legislation and gets back into the ring and fights their
way to a champion.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I would love to have an American gold medal boxer.
I'd also just like to have men actually win men's
boxing and women win women's boxing. How crazy is it
that the President had to put a rule in place
so the United States Olympic Committee would say, hey, women's
sports can only be for the Olympics competed in by women.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, and again, I think that ultimately there may be
people that try to inject some of those cultural wars
into this. So this is a really sound piece of legislation,
and ultimately we have protections for male boxers and we've
protections from female boxers within this legislation. The key if
it is ensuring that we provide more opportunities for boxers
(26:51):
to engage in the sport, earn better compensation in the sport.
Have greater health and safety protection. And I think anybody listening,
it's been twenty five years, a quarter of a century
we've updated boxing laws. It's long overdue. If we're able
to pass this, you're going to usher in a whole
new era of innovation that's going to revitalize and revive
the sport. And let me just also say, we call
them the Muhammad Ali Boxing Revive American Boxing Revival Act
(27:13):
because we have the endorsement of Lani Ali, the wife
of Muhammad Ali. That was very special to us, and
she has a very special statement and support of it.
And we also have the endorsement of the Association of
Boxing Commissions. The ABC is considered the gold standard in
the sports. So having their input, helping learn from them
how best to shape this legislation, I think an incredible product.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Congressman, we appreciate you listening to the show. Thanks for
all the work you've done for President Trump. This sounds
like a bill that makes a lot of sense. You're
listening to Brian Jack, representing the third Congressional District of Georgia.
I hope we can keep keeping you entertained on this
and good luck with the bill.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
It was an honor speaking with you, A big fan
of yours, big fan of the show, and as a listener,
like I said, I would love to come back on,
and we expect September October will start season movement in
the committee process. But as we move toward our two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary next year, let's revive this once
great American sport.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Thank you, no doubt, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's a Congressman Brian Jack, third Congressional District in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
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Also Russia Gate, and update on what's going on with Epstein.
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funny clips to play for you, maybe not all hugely hysterical.
But remember earlier in the week when Hunter Biden went
crazy on his interview the one year anniversary of his
dad dropping out, And I came on and Buck was like, man,
this is a crazy prediction by you. And I said,
I think Hunter Biden wants to run for president. And
(31:42):
I don't think anybody had said it at that point
yet now everybody is suddenly saying it. Here is Joe
Rogan saying Hunter Biden's a lot smarter than people give
him credit for. He could be president. This is real
cut twenty three.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
He is a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
I'll tell you that. Like he's talking and one of
the things he was talking about was why smoking things
are so addictive, why smoking cigarettes are so addictive, and
like a psychology behind it. He's not dumb, but he's
just a guy who you know, became an addict and
that's your whole life up. He'd become a subhuman when
you're junkied out all the time and you're you're that
(32:21):
dude who's like what he was doing, like making films
and driving on the gun. Ah, he was gone. He
was out there, dude, and he could be president.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
How about that he could nook Hunter Biden after all
he'd been through. Look we all his dirty laundry is
all out there. We all see it. He was a
freak just smart, smarter than his dad when his dad
was young.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And he was a crackhead, smarter than his dad when
his dad was young. And he's a crackhead, which is
a pretty good indictment of Joe Biden. Did you see
Joe Biden news came out yesterday ten million dollars for
his memoirs Advance. Who is gonna buy Joe Biden's memoirs?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Jill?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I mean, in all seriousness, I understood when Barack Obama
got a lot of money for his memoirs of saying okay,
I can see that a lot of people would buy that.
If Trump ever writes memoirs, I think that the number
of people that would buy it would be off the charts.
Joe Biden's memoirs put me down early. No one is
(33:28):
buying this book. The company that is giving him ten
million dollars, they are going to be giving away Joe
Biden's memoirs. First of all, I'm not even sure, sadly
that Joe Biden will be alive when his memoirs come out.
But I just I don't even think there is a
Joe Biden memoir audience eighty one point three million votes.
(33:50):
Can't even sell a book, can't even fill up an
arena eighty one point three million. Yeah, this is funny.
This is an email. Make sure that I get this right,
Patrick Vip emailer, Clay, you're full of great news today.
First you tell us Hulk Cogan is gone. That hit
(34:11):
me right before I was about to come on the show.
That news broke from TMZ. I'm sorry if you just
got in your car and you're just hearing it right now.
Seventy one years old, Hulk Cogan is now gone. And yes,
I started off the show. I said, Hey, I think
I got to tell you guys great feedback talkbacks from
you guys. We played some during the course of the show.
And then you tell me that my great notre dame
(34:34):
Fighting Irish gave Sonny Hoston a degree my world is gone.
And not only did they give Sonny Hoston a degree,
fation clawback her JD. I have legitimate questions about how
Sonny Hoston ever passed a bar exam based on her
legal analysis of why Stephen Colbert getting fired is actually
(34:58):
dangerous for America and our constitution. I just don't even
understand how that's remotely possible. Okay, speaking of morons. Michigan, Michigan,
you're not off the hook here. You had a super
close Senate election. The Democrat one Alissa Slotkin won.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
She is trying to make a.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Sports analogy yesterday on the Senate floor, and she said,
the Detroit Lions are going to win the National Championship
and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Only someone who has no.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Earthly idea about sports whatever, say it? Cut twenty one.
You want to wonder why Democrats are having trouble with men,
It's because they're so patently and authentic and they can't
even speak basic male culture conversational norms. Cut twenty one.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
By charting a strategy from beginning to end on how
we get through this moment, and we will for God's sakes, people,
The Detroit.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Lions are going to win the.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
National Championship and this super Bowl, and they were in
the toilet for years.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, big problem here. The National Championship is actually
for college football. It is impossible for the Detroit Lions
to win that and the Super Bowl. I would, however,
love for the Detroit Lions, on behalf of my wife,
Detroit area native Laura, and her family and friends, for
them to win the Super Bowl. But why stop there,
Senator Slotkin, why not also call for the Lions to
(36:27):
win the World Series, the Stanley Cup, maybe even the
Preakness Kentucky Derby. Why stop at only one title the
Detroit Lions, Well, they could win them all, maybe even
kick the Detroit Pistons to the curb in Michigan and
win the NBA Title two. We'll win all the titles
with you on the Friday edition of the program. Thanks
(36:49):
as always for hanging with us, Rip hul Cogan
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