January 6, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into explosive political and cultural commentary, major economic shifts, and breaking developments in U.S. foreign policy. The hour opens with Clay and Buck discussing the decline of New York City under Mayor Zohran Mamdani, warning that his radical socialist agenda—framed as replacing “rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism”—could devastate property rights and public safety. They highlight viral clips of Mamdani’s allies advocating for housing as a “collective good,” signaling a push toward shared equity models that undermine private ownership. The hosts argue this reflects the broader influence of unmarried progressive women on Democratic policy, calling them the driving force behind destructive cultural and political trends.
The conversation shifts to economic migration and the future of financial hubs, citing predictions that Miami and South Florida could replace New York as America’s financial capital, while tech billionaires flock to Texas. Clay and Buck attribute this to post-COVID remote work flexibility and tax advantages in states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee, contrasting these environments with high-tax states such as New York and California. They warn that as wealthy residents flee, blue states will raise taxes further, accelerating the exodus.
On foreign policy, the hour features an in-depth interview with Congressman Chip Roy, who praises President Trump’s bold leadership in Operation Absolute Resolve, the mission that captured Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro. Roy explains the strategic importance of stabilizing Venezuela, restoring its oil production, and preventing resources from flowing to adversaries like China, Russia, and Iran. He emphasizes that this is not “nation-building” but a critical move to secure the Western Hemisphere under the Trump Doctrine, strengthen U.S. energy independence, and protect national security. Roy also warns of challenges ahead, including corruption within Venezuela’s regime, and stresses the need for strong rule of law and economic recovery.
The discussion then pivots to the Somali daycare fraud scandal in Minnesota, which has rocked Governor Tim Walz’s political career. Clay and Buck play audio from Walz’s defiant press conference, where he vows not to resign despite mounting evidence of billions in fraudulent welfare payments. Roy underscores how grassroots investigations—like the viral exposé by a 23-year-old YouTuber—are filling the void left by legacy media, signaling a new era of citizen journalism and accountability. He calls for aggressive federal prosecutions, noting that fraud tied to federal funds warrants U.S. attorney involvement, and predicts that heads will roll as investigations expand nationwide.
Hour 3 closes with sharp cultural commentary, humorous banter about movie Easter eggs (Dumb and Dumber references), and reflections on the importance of codifying Trump’s border security policies to prevent future reversals. Clay and Buck frame these stories as part of a larger battle for America’s future—against socialism, corruption, and media bias—while celebrating the rise of independent voices and decisive leadership.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, I remember three Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I have
gone to war with the state of New Mexico unexpectedly today.
I hope that all of you living in I don't
even know what is New Mexico the frontier state, So
(00:20):
don't dig.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Me into this hole with you. Don't ask me New
Mexico trivia. So I have to take the incoming.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
On this one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I want to say something nice about New Mexico. One
of my college roomates lives there, and I've been to Albuquerque,
and what I remember is that they have a lot
of honey that they put on burritos. And that sounds
like something that doesn't make a lot of sense, but
it actually takes very good. So I would miss the
honey on the burritos if we let New Mexico go
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back to Mexico and if we ended up with better
states instead. So that is the land of enchantment, is
what New Mexico is. I thought it was the frontier state.
That's last guy, I guess. But uh, we are having
a lot of fun. Venezuela talk, Tim Walls talk.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Jim Walls talk is always great and fantastic. Do you
can we Since we're already talking about states that you
want to give away, you are trade trade away, trade away,
not giving.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Not giveaway.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I want something better in exchange for them, but I'm
willing to barter them, trade them.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, what are we trading for? New York City being
destroyed by mom Donnie? Just the knowledge that Communist house
never work.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're gonna We're gonna have a bigger House majority and
maybe add a couple of Senate seats. So it makes
me sad that all of you in you know, New
York City, just New York City. I mean, I bet
Long Island's gonna be nicer. I bet Westchester is gonna
be nicer. But those of you, maybe Staten Island, because
it's protected and has its own island, maybe it will
be okay. But Manhattan, in particular, Brooklyn Queens, all of
(01:56):
you are done.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know, you just sink beneath the waves like Atlantis,
and the rest.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Of the country just goes right on. I saw where
who was it?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
David Sachs came out and said, Miami's gonna replace New
York City as the financial capital of the United States.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Did you see that prediction from him.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The idea that is, yeah, the idea that's out there
now is that South Florida, it's really Miami and the
ninety five corridor up to Palm Beach in that area
and West Palm Palm Beach and on down is going
to become a major global financial hub.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That there will be a move also of these California
billionaires to Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, for the tech I think he's right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There is some momentum behind both of those things that
this is already going on in some ways.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Look, I do believe that one of the biggest legacies
of COVID is going to be that a lot of
people became aware that they could live anywhere in the
country and indeed all over the world and they would
not actually lose the ability to do their job at
a high level. And so if you have made that
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risk taking test that you would never have tried on
your own, right, if you make a million dollars a
year and you are a super successful New York City
investment banker, you would have never said, Hey, let me
see if I can still do my job just as well.
I'm going to risk it moved to Miami, or I'm
gonna move to Houston, or I'm gonna move to Nashville
where I live. A lot of those guys did it,
and now they're looking around and they're saying, why would
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I pay fourteen percent in state income tax? As much
like buck yourself if you could do your job just
as well, and oh, by the way, also live potentially
in a more hospitable environment to raise a family, as
I think most people would say, Hey, Texas, Tennessee, Florida,
does that feel like a better place to raise a
family to a lot of people than New York City
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or LA or Chicago.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think a lot of peop people.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Are saying yes, and they're moving, and so I do
think culturally, when David Sachs said that kind of made
me raise my eyebrows a little bit. And I'm not
one hundred percent sold on the idea necessarily, but man,
every time I come down to see you in Miami,
the number of buildings going up, it is extraordinary to
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see the amount of building that is going on in
South Florida and the property, what people are paying to
live in South Florida now, the amount of wealth that
is relocating. And then I think what you're going to
see is the state of New York in California and Illinois,
and as they lose some of those rich residents, they're
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going to have to raise taxes, and that's going to
accelerate the departure of other people. And so I think
the end result is going to be that, much like Atlantis,
New York City is going to sink beneath the waters,
and the rest of us are going to benefit from
your destruction.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I'm not going to sit here.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Downing mint julips A a Llah, mister Tennessee Clay Travis over there,
while New York just slips into New York Harbor and
while Manhattan disappears. I'm going to help you fight fight
the madness that is Mom Donnism, which has already showed
up in all kinds of ways.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Here.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Let's let's start with this one, Clay. This is a flashback.
Mam Donnie's tenant director is someone named I think Cia Weaver.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I guess that's how you say her first name. Here.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think this is super important. We should mention this
because this always comes up. It's not just Mom Donnie
it's who he puts into so many of these positions,
and he's picking a lot of crazy people.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, he's building a wacko brigade around him, which is
a really really bad sign of what's going to be
happening here here is this is a flashback in this
video too, Mam Donnie's tenant director. I want to just
listen to the words she uses when she's talking about
people being able to own and rent homes in New
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York by nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think the reality is is that for centuries we've
really treated property as an individualized good and not a
collective good, and we are going to and transitioning to
treating it as a collective good and towards a model
of shared equity will require that we think about it differently,
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and it will mean that family is especially white families,
but some POC families who are homeowners as well, are
going to have a different relationship to property than the
one that we currently have.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Okay, so first off, before we dive into the insanity here,
ironclad rule.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You cannot give.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Anyone authority in anything who does this up talking thing,
who does this thing where she starts talking up at
the end of sentences like it was a collective good
and now we're gonna treat it like it's or.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was you know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know what I'm saying, that's always a huge that's
a huge red flag. You don't want to listen to
anybody about anything important. Who does the up talk thing
at the end of sentences. I'm just telling you it's true.
You don't want this person operating on your heart. You
don't want them collecting, you know, rent, you don't want
them doing anything of any importance for you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's part one, Part two.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Notice that you have to just be like, yeah, we're
just gonna hurt white families more because you know, private
property rights aren't really a thing. This is how these
lunatics speak behind closed doors, and they're not supposed to
be able to fool enough people to have any political power.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But Mom, Donnie, did.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You asked the question, which I think is really good one?
What if Democrats are just wrong about everything? It's not
just Democrats though, it's the base of the Democrat Party
that is driving all of this insanity. And do you
know who the base of the Democrat Party is?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
White women.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
White women are highly educated. White women have bought into
everything that is wrong in America, and they aggressively put
in place policies that are utterly.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wrong on all fronts.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I just I look at it, and I know every
time I say this, we get you know, it's like
it reminds me of the what was the the Chris
Rock joke he used to tell where women would sing
along to really degrading rap lyrics and they would be like,
he's not talking about me, and he's like he's saying
your name, you know, like it's a great line if
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you ever would go out to a bar rap lyrics
very degrading to women, and all the women are dancing
around like crazy, you know, rapping along with the lyrics,
and whenever I say this, white women are.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Like, not me, I'm not it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, okay, But as.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
A percentage, overwhelmingly, the most destructive force in America today
is white women. Left wing and frankly, I married.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Married, unmarried, married white women is really the demographic you're
talking about, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But they are destroying the country and they're wrong on
every single issue. And the scary thing that I bet
this chick that we're that we're playing the audio from,
I bet she's an unmarried white woman, God forbid if
she's got a husband.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Uh, poor bastard.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I will tell you right now, the scary thing
to me, Buck is not being wrong, because trust me,
I've been wrong on a lot. You've been wrong on
a lot. Everybody out there has been wrong on a lot.
It's not being willing or able to recognize when you
are wrong and changing your opinion or changing your lifestyle choices.
(09:49):
These crazy unmarried white women are so committed to the
destructive belief systems that they have that results to don't
change their opinions.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I would tell you, honestly, man, it's just unmarried single women.
It's unmarried women in in like middlely, you know, particularly
like late thirties up until they're fifty. That's that's the demo.
It's it's across all races. They've got really bad.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, young young women are wrong like young men are
because they're just knuckleheads and they haven't had enough life
experience to learn. As you age, you start to have
a better life perspective and you can adjust in your opinions.
So younger people, I think, oftentimes have moronica takes. I've
got all sorts of opinions. I had when I was
seventeen that I.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Was saying, I mean, the true base, by the numbers
of the Democrat Party is actually black female voters. That's
the that's the absolute locked in base that they have
when it comes to voting. But I don't know, I
don't know that black women drive the choices made by
the Democrat Party as much as highly educated, unmarried white
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women do. That's the base you're talking about, like the
policy director versus who's the base.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The percentages of people who are going to show up
and just vote because they've always voted Democrat. Black women
are the most loyal Democrat voters. But the people that
are actually driving the proverbial bus of the Democrat Party
are unmarried white women, and they are driving basically the
bus off the side of a cliff, and they don't
recognize even choices they make. In New York City, Mom, Donnie,
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if he actually puts in place the policies that he
said he's going to do, you know what's going to happen.
Women are going to be infinitely more dangerous in the
lifestyle choices that they make. You're not gonna be able
to ride the subway you're not going to be able
to ride the buses.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're actually making choices that.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Are utterly destructive for their own lifestyle, and they're not
willing to recognize that they made the choice. Remember the
Great Sex and the City show back in the day, Buck,
there's a line where Charlotte, who I thought was the
I think I led women off a cliff whatever, refer
to it as great. I think that show is enormously
destructive to a generation of women. I've always believed that,
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and some chicks thought I was crazy years ago, and
now they're like, Buck, you're right, You're like this. It
is an entertaining show, but I think if it's a lifestyle.
But Charlotte at one point has this realization where she's
made all these life choices and they've all been wrong,
and she has this like meltdown or she says, I
chose my choice. I chose my choice. I chose my choice.
(12:29):
That is a realization that you made choices in your
life that led you to the position where you are.
I don't think a lot of these women are capable
of logically recognizing that they have chosen the method of
their own destruction. To use a Ghostbuster's reference. They're actually
making choices that are utterly destructive to their lifestyle, and
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there aren't there isn't a recognition of it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It would be different if you thought, I just this
is something I'd worry out all the time. If you
have a consequence free reality of your world, then how
can you in some way get people to make rational choices.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, this is the lack of accountability I always talking about.
Is the centerpiece of the Democrat Party's pitch to people,
which is that nothing that is in your life that
is bad is your fault or could be changed by you.
It is other people's fault, and the government is there
to hurt those people that are the reason you're dissatisfied
with things, and to give you the things that you
(13:33):
think you deserve. That's like the fundamental pitch of a Democrat.
Really it's just socialism, but they don't call it that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And speaking of socialism, you've got like Mam Donnie, you
know what we can come back to this Clay, but
Mamdani talking about how World Cup tickets for everybody you
know soccer World Cup tickets. What he's the mayor of
New York. He's not Emperor of the universe. But you know,
if you're a kami, it's the same thing to you.
So yeah, we'll play that. I saw that clip that
(14:02):
was going viral yesterday. Mamdannie has basically decided that he
has to address every single issue every day the mayor
of New York City. I don't know that you really
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Speaker 3 (15:39):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So, we have been talking about mam Donniism in New York,
the early stages of Mamdannism, and we've heard some things
that are troubling from people around it. We've heard from
Mom Donnie himself. In fact, one of the one of
the really the best ones was when he said recently
that he wanted to quote replace the frigidity of rugged
(16:04):
individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He wants to embrace New York City with the warmth
of collectivism and smother it with a pillow when he
does so. I mean, this is really bad stuff, everybody.
Bad stuff that's going to be happening if this guy
gets his way, and even some things that are just preposterous,
like here he is. The World Cup is going to
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be in a whole bunch of American cities.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
When does it start Clay.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
June, like early June of like five months from now,
so there'll be a lot of sports ball happening all
over America then.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And Mom, Donnie wants you to know that somehow he's
going to make tickets not expensive in New York so
anyone can go play twenty You know.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I had a New York and the other day come
up to me and ask me if there was any
way I could help him get World Cup tickets because
he was saying that the cost that he saw for
a game was six hundred dollars. Right, this is increasingly
out of reach. We have made what used to be
a working class game into a luxury experience, and there
are too many for whom it doesn't matter where the
World Cup is being played in the world. They know
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where they're going to watch it. It's TV, and we
want to ensure that there are more experiences available. It's
each and ever New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm just going to tell the I'm Donnie that I
want private jet travel and see how he handles that one.
He seems to have no understanding play of Yeah, it's
expensive because more people want to go than they can
fit in this seat, so they have to set a
market price.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Well, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I mean, I know this because I spend so much
time in the world of sports with stub hubs and
seat geeks of the world. There is never a sellout anymore.
You have a real market based costs. For every athletic
event on the planet or Broadway play, you can always
get a ticket.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The prices have gone up a lot though.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis vock Sexton Show. Oh let's
see we got a bunch of different clips out there.
Tim Walls finally took questions and he refused to resign,
says only will he resign over his dead body?
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Cut thirty Republicans want to tell you everybody with brown
skin is stealing money. Or that they're not welcome here.
They want to do nothing to improve this state. Their
idea of improving this state is being a parrot for
Donald Trump, agreeing to everything that he agreed with. Well,
here's what I'm going to tell you. It ain't happening.
I'm not going anywhere, and you can make all your
(19:36):
requests for me to resign over my dead body will
that happen. I will fight this thing till the very
end to make this state better. And the question that
I think they need to decide is is when do
the guy in the White House resign? When does he
take accountability for what he did? Because it isn't going
to happen here in terms of us shying away from
making a state better.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So you'll get to see me more.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
The good news is on this is is that I.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Got no election to look forward to.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I've been in front of you. I'll call on who
I want to call on, and I'll watch what the
press gets written, and we'll make sure that in this
state there's full accountability for everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Because I buck stops with me.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
I'm accountable for this and because of that accountability, I'm
not running for office again. But I have a year
to continue to improve on a record that I think
will stand up against anybody's, a record that has made
Minnesota better, a record that makes people want to come here,
and a record that has respected not only the dignity
of people, but the idea of rule of law and camaraderie.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, what's interesting here to me in general is does
it feel like to you the whole like he tried
to start off the argument by saying, Oh, this is
about racism and this is about coming after people who
are brown skin, does it feel like to you that
that argument has just complete Like it used to be,
(20:54):
you could shut down people really quickly if you said, hey,
you know, we got to look at crime and black
guys commit more crime than.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
White guys, They're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know, the Overton window was so small that if
you said that, they would say that's racist of you
to notice what basic data shows, and they would try
to shut down the conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It feels like they've lost that battle now. And I
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's social media just exploiting larger marketplace of ideas conversations,
but they're still trying to make it and it doesn't
even work.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
On legacy media anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, that's all true, And there's a number of reasons
why I think that Elon Musk's purchase of X is
still one of the most important free speech turning points
in the twenty first century. And I know that for
many of you who aren't even on X or never
on Twitter, you're like, how can that be? It's the
only place at scale. And I know some of you
are gonna tell me truth and whatever, and I appreciate that,
(21:48):
but that's the numbers speak to this. That's a very
small fraction of what you have on exit. It's the
only place at scale where ideas can be shared and
can really take hold of the public consciousness in a
way that is not dominated has not been dominated by
left wing control. We do have a Congressman Chip Roy
(22:09):
out of Texas with us now. Congressman, appreciate you being
with us.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Great too, Witio.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Sorry to step out of our gimpeting that we have
with the President and I had to give you all
a call, but.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Great to be on No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Tell the big guy we send him a high five.
He's doing an amazing job.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
We give him.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Give lots of thanks to him for a great twenty
twenty five. But we're talking here a little bit actually
about what's going on in Minnesota, the flaud there, and
now people are saying, if it's that bad of Minnesota,
what's it look like in California.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What's your take on this one, Congressman.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah, I mean, look what we're signing. What we're seeing
there is the inevitable outcome of two things. A very
broken immigration system, both legal and illegal, that flooded our country,
particularly places like Minneapolis, with the individuals who are you know,
obviously engaging in right in rampant fraud and taking taxpayer
money and base expanding it and bringing family members over
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and abusing our immigration system. But it's also the product
of a welfare state is out of control. We had
been doling out billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of
dollars NonStop now for years, and it's put on steroids
under the Biden administration. And now all of those two
things collided to produce this disaster in Minneapolis. Yes, it's
bad in California. Remember, by the way, last May June,
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when we were working to get the big beautiful bill passed,
Remember those of us who were fighting and saying we
needed the Medicaid work requirements and that we needed requirements
to clamp down on fraud. Remember, we were being saying, well,
you're going to take away Medicaid, You're going to make
all these No, we were trying to make sure that
only American citizens were able to get that benefit through Medicaid,
and we were trying to get rid of fraud. And
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by the way, Medicaid keeps going up under the big
beautiful bill. But we're just trying to type down on
the fraud. Now we've got miles to go. We're trying
to fight through the appropriations process now working with the
President's team at the Office Management and Budget. Now you've
got DJ and you've got them out there investigating in Minnesota.
We need to keep doing it and exposing it. And frankly,
all of you people out there that are keyboard warriors
looking at this stuff and finding the information. There's a
(24:04):
great guy, what is it, olfol Rando, his Twitter Accounty
is a great Texan dives into all of these accounts
and they, frankly, do a lot of workforce to help
identify this stuff. So we're going after it and doing
the best we can, and we got to just do
more because that fraud is all over the place because
of the money that's flowing.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You're running for Attorney General of Texas in addition to
being a congressman right now, Venezuela. What is the read
on oil and gas from somebody who's in a state
that knows more about oil and gas than anybody. What
is the reaction that you're hearing from the people in
the oil and gas industry. What do you think should
happen will happen with Venezuela.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Well, first of all, the president should great leadership, and
what he did in engaging in Venezuela, this is not unprecedented. Obviously,
Noriego was a president. Legally, I think the president's going
to be on strong footing in court. Went out and
extricated somebody who and bought I'm here for justice, who'd
been indicted for engaging and carrying out criminal activity and
organized crime with cartels and putting drugs into our communities.
So it's the right thing to do. They're now going
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to try to make sure that it's stable. Let that
Venezuela and people do what they need to do to
pick their leadership and run their country, but we're going
to make sure it's stable first. But remember they nationalized
the oil fields and their oil industry and took a
lot of the investments that Americans put in their ten
twenty thirty forty years ago, and that was a real
issue that we've got to now unwind and then make
(25:21):
sure now that oil isn't going to our enemies and
isn't going to China, isn't going to Iran, isn't going
to Russia, and rather as being able to flow into
Western hemisphere. And so I think that's going to happen.
I think people I'm talking to in the oil and
gas space are excited that we can have some oil
supply to help, you know, free up the market. I mean, look,
we can produce massive amounts.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Of oil here, but there's always limits to.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
What we can do with our fracking. It's so it's
nice to have multi sources and not be reliant on
any one area. So to add to Venezuela supply back
into the pipeline.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
So to speak, is viewed favorably.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
But also, you know, we need to make sure that
we don't have, you know, another situation where we go
invest in it and then it gets nationalized again. So
presidents doing the right thing, but we got to do
a lot of work to make sure that we can
rely on it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
How concerned are you, Congressman, about the next steps in Venezuela,
specifically pretending to the security and internal it's not a
stable place. The stability might be the wrong word, but
keeping this place from devolving into a hobbsey and mess.
(26:24):
What do you think are the ways forward here? And
how do you think the administration is going to be
able to handle some of these challenges?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Well, first of all, Marco Review has been doing a
fantastic job Secretary State. In every situation he's been put in,
He's great this weekend articulating why this is critical to
our national security interest, the Trump doctrine, whatever you want
to call it, with respective focusing on the Western hemisphere,
to push out our enemies and to increase the relationships
and the reliance on other countries in the Western hemisphere,
on America and not our enemies, not China, not Russia.
(26:54):
These are all things that are critically important. I am
concerned about the next steps. Those are very real concerns.
They've got a lot of people in the regime are
still in place. There's a lot of corruption that still exists.
Moving one guy out of it is a good step,
but it's not going to be the whole solution. We
got to work to try to get Venezuela back on
its feed, get it back to where it was economically
two decades ago, but moving forward to the stronger rule
(27:15):
of law and to have a better society that is
built on our Republican principles here and so I think
we've got a lot of work to do, but we
can do it, and it's worth it. Okay, this is
not the nation building of trying to go build a
country over in Iraq, you know, for twenty years while
you spend seven trillion dollars and lose seven thousand men
and women and seventy five thousand injuries. Which what we're
dealing with here is in our western hemisphere, in our backyard,
(27:37):
just south of Cuba, a country that is rich with
minerals that can be a benefit to our entire civilization
over here, but that we need to stab a loze.
So I think the President is doing the right thing,
but it's going to take a lot of work. This
is not easy. I'm not a big believer in, you know,
regime change in nation building. But what we're trying to
do here is create stability with an important country in
the Western hemisphere that's important to our national security interests.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We're talking to Congressman Ship Roy, running for the attorney
General of the state of Texas. When you look at
what's happened Tim Walls, we just played a couple of
cuts from him press conference availability today is political career
is effectively over. What does that tell us about the
dwindling power of legacy media When effectively this is a
(28:21):
twenty three year old on YouTube who went and did
his own investigation into fraud in Minnesota and I think
effectively ended Tim Walls's career. How does this change the
dynamics of the political universe and also the trajectory of
our country.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Well, look, I think this is an important moment and
I think we should recognize that. And I've been talking
about this quite a bit because when I mentioned a
minute ago, right, I wasn't joking when I said that
those are the listeners out there, the people who focus
on this stuff. They can go do some of this investigative,
investigative work that helps us with policy because people don't
realize that, you know, in the Congressional office, right, I mean,
I have fourteen or fifteen staff, half of them are
(28:59):
doing constituent services and you know, engagement with my constituents.
And you've got a handful of policy people, and you
have to do bills every day, and so it's hard
for us to go to the deep dive investigative work.
So when we've got support from the outside, which should
have been the media, right, the media is supposed to
be seeking truth wherever it may lead, right to quote
Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
They haven't been doing that. They've been an.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Advocate for radical Marxism and leftism. And now you've got
people like Nick who went out and did the hard work,
you know, on the ground in Minneapolis and Minnesota. And
now hopefully we're going to see more of that, and
see that in California and see that ever in Texas, right,
I mean, there's fraud in Texas and that we had
to root out. There's medicaid fraud division of the AG's Office,
the Attorney General's Office that you know, I want to
(29:39):
make sure we're focusing on reading out all the medicaid fraud.
But I know Texas is better than California and Minneapolis
and or Minnesota and New York.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
But we've got to have that.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
We've got to have people on the outside that are
helping us. Again, the founders understood the importance of the
freedom of the press. The question is who is the press?
And right now, with technology and with what Elon did
with X, it's impressive now what you can allow what
a twenty three year old, to your point, can do
to bring out truth. Again, this is all about seek
truth wherever it may lead. That's the goal.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Do you think that there will be accountability though a
lot of people, Congressman become very disillusioned with our system
when there's this exposure of something like this, and then
we're wondering, well, is anyone actually going to go to
prison over this? I mean, I saw I think this
is a US Attorney's office in Atlanta, Georgia is bringing
(30:32):
a prosecution against the state rep there for stealing fifteen
thousand dollars something like that in COVID funds. And they're
bringing that prosecution under public integrity and they're like, look,
you're a public official and you're stealing money from the
states you live in. That's unacceptable. I see what's going
on in Somalia. I'm hearing the people are take I'm
sorry with the Somalis in Minnesota, and you hear that
people are taking the GDP of Somalia from that state
(30:55):
and fraud.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Is anyone going to go to prison?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean you make a good point of I
tweeted that out early. I think it was the first
maybe to put that out, that their GDP thirteen billion
and we're talking about eighteen billion of potential fraud. Now
that's the potential number. That tweet got thirty five million views.
By the way, just to be clear about how much
people are recognizing this, and I think that's important to
your point. Yes, heads need to roll. I am glatified
(31:19):
to see that. I think I saw something like a
thousand prosecutions that were being discussed in the news reports
that I saw this morning or yesterday. You know, look,
this takes a little bit of work. You got to
prove up a case. I'm a former federal prosecutor in
the US Attorney's Office, and remember are typically our federal
laws are not designed for us to have a federal
police force, in federal prosecutorial force going into states but
(31:42):
where you've got the abuse of federal funds, where you've
got the nexus to the fraud of these federal tax
dollars flowing, and you have public servants who are engaging
in that kind of behavior, there's absolutely room for federal prosecutions.
We need to follow the truth wherever it may lead
on this stuff in terms of including state leaders and
those that are involved in knowingly and intentionally violating our laws.
(32:03):
And we've got to dive into it. And you know, look,
people ask me all the time, why isn't Judge Boseberg
being impeached? Well, I agree he should be. I mean
we should bring it up and if we should have
the vote, and if some Republicans won't vote for it,
then they got to go answer to their constituents. I
think we need to have some votes here on judicial impeachments.
I think we need to see prosecutions out of the
US Attorney's offices.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
And I hope we will.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Last question for you quickly here as we go to
break how much difference is Texas with a completely secured
southern border, And privately, do even some Democrats come up
to you and say, boy, things are so much better
here with a completely secured southern border.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I would call a lot of those folks, former Democrats,
frankly people South Texas.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Who have been looking at this going yeash. I mean,
that was.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Ridiculous what we were dealing with, the danger, the fentanyl,
the cartels, the criminal activity, the fact that our hospitals
and jails were all filled up. Now they see what
can happen when you just simply enforce the law that
I made. I literally just made it fifteen minutes ago.
Sitting in front of my Republican colleagues in our meeting,
I said, remember that the president had basically secured the
border in twenty twenty. It wasn't quite as tight as
it is now, but it was pretty tight. And guess
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what happened? It got blown to hell in a matter
of months under Biden and my orcs. We Congress must
codify the President's agenda, the president's actions that he's taken
as as president on the border, and pass what we
passed last Congress. Remember we passed Hr two, that strong
Border security bill. We have not passed that again. We
(33:31):
need to pass it. Sendate a to the Senate. We
need to force them to act if we don't codify
this stuff, then the next Democrat president will abuse it again.
So it's a great to answer your question. Texas in
a lot better spot. But look, we still have a
lot of people we still need to remove. Ice is
doing a good job, but we've got to go out
and find the folks that have been violating our laws,
the people that were wrongly parolled, and give it granted asylum,
(33:53):
move them, and then we need to pass laws to
codify these things to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Congressmanship Joy of the Great State of Texas, the next
Attorney general there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We appreciate the time, sir.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Thanks guys, take care.
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We got a quick turnaround here to close us out
for the day, but we throw some easter eggs into
the show usually movie references. I threw in samsonight, I
was way off, which is a pretty obscure line. Apparently
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listeners play gg.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That would be a reference to Dumb and Dumber. That's
absolutely dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
The Samsonite reference is clearly from Dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I got you reference. It's dumb and dumber.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Totally from Dumb and DUMMERKA classic reference.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Samsonite is from the movie Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I just wanted to say, I got that Easter egg.
That's dumb and Dumber, one of the funniest movies ever.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Gen me tell dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I did not google it and didn't need to.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Dumb and Dumber. The Samsonite swunson Sampsonite. That is dumb
and Dummer.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
If anybody doesn't know dom and Dummer, then they're just crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I love you, guys, Man Clay. They nailed it, nailed it.
That's really good.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just think in twenty six we could have some
fun if we tried to drop something in a couple
of times a week and didn't tell people and see
if they catch.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
It, like like like let's Easter eggs. I like it.
Good idea
Well, I remember three Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I have
gone to war with the state of New Mexico unexpectedly today.
I hope that all of you living in I don't
even know what is New Mexico the frontier state, So
(00:20):
don't dig.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Me into this hole with you. Don't ask me New
Mexico trivia. So I have to take the incoming.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
On this one.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I want to say something nice about New Mexico. One
of my college roomates lives there, and I've been to Albuquerque,
and what I remember is that they have a lot
of honey that they put on burritos. And that sounds
like something that doesn't make a lot of sense, but
it actually takes very good. So I would miss the
honey on the burritos if we let New Mexico go
(00:48):
back to Mexico and if we ended up with better
states instead. So that is the land of enchantment, is
what New Mexico is. I thought it was the frontier state.
That's last guy, I guess. But uh, we are having
a lot of fun. Venezuela talk, Tim Walls talk.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Jim Walls talk is always great and fantastic. Do you
can we Since we're already talking about states that you
want to give away, you are trade trade away, trade away,
not giving.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Not giveaway.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I want something better in exchange for them, but I'm
willing to barter them, trade them.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, what are we trading for? New York City being
destroyed by mom Donnie? Just the knowledge that Communist house
never work.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We're gonna We're gonna have a bigger House majority and
maybe add a couple of Senate seats. So it makes
me sad that all of you in you know, New
York City, just New York City. I mean, I bet
Long Island's gonna be nicer. I bet Westchester is gonna
be nicer. But those of you, maybe Staten Island, because
it's protected and has its own island, maybe it will
be okay. But Manhattan, in particular, Brooklyn Queens, all of
(01:56):
you are done.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know, you just sink beneath the waves like Atlantis,
and the rest.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Of the country just goes right on. I saw where
who was it?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
David Sachs came out and said, Miami's gonna replace New
York City as the financial capital of the United States.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Did you see that prediction from him.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The idea that is, yeah, the idea that's out there
now is that South Florida, it's really Miami and the
ninety five corridor up to Palm Beach in that area
and West Palm Palm Beach and on down is going
to become a major global financial hub.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That there will be a move also of these California
billionaires to Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, for the tech I think he's right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
There is some momentum behind both of those things that
this is already going on in some ways.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So I think that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Look, I do believe that one of the biggest legacies
of COVID is going to be that a lot of
people became aware that they could live anywhere in the
country and indeed all over the world and they would
not actually lose the ability to do their job at
a high level. And so if you have made that
(03:15):
risk taking test that you would never have tried on
your own, right, if you make a million dollars a
year and you are a super successful New York City
investment banker, you would have never said, Hey, let me
see if I can still do my job just as well.
I'm going to risk it moved to Miami, or I'm
gonna move to Houston, or I'm gonna move to Nashville
where I live. A lot of those guys did it,
and now they're looking around and they're saying, why would
(03:36):
I pay fourteen percent in state income tax? As much
like buck yourself if you could do your job just
as well, and oh, by the way, also live potentially
in a more hospitable environment to raise a family, as
I think most people would say, Hey, Texas, Tennessee, Florida,
does that feel like a better place to raise a
family to a lot of people than New York City
(03:58):
or LA or Chicago.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think a lot of peop people.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Are saying yes, and they're moving, and so I do
think culturally, when David Sachs said that kind of made
me raise my eyebrows a little bit. And I'm not
one hundred percent sold on the idea necessarily, but man,
every time I come down to see you in Miami,
the number of buildings going up, it is extraordinary to
(04:21):
see the amount of building that is going on in
South Florida and the property, what people are paying to
live in South Florida now, the amount of wealth that
is relocating. And then I think what you're going to
see is the state of New York in California and Illinois,
and as they lose some of those rich residents, they're
(04:41):
going to have to raise taxes, and that's going to
accelerate the departure of other people. And so I think
the end result is going to be that, much like Atlantis,
New York City is going to sink beneath the waters,
and the rest of us are going to benefit from
your destruction.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I'm not going to sit here.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Downing mint julips A a Llah, mister Tennessee Clay Travis over there,
while New York just slips into New York Harbor and
while Manhattan disappears. I'm going to help you fight fight
the madness that is Mom Donnism, which has already showed
up in all kinds of ways.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Here.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Let's let's start with this one, Clay. This is a flashback.
Mam Donnie's tenant director is someone named I think Cia Weaver.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I guess that's how you say her first name. Here.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think this is super important. We should mention this
because this always comes up. It's not just Mom Donnie
it's who he puts into so many of these positions,
and he's picking a lot of crazy people.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, he's building a wacko brigade around him, which is
a really really bad sign of what's going to be
happening here here is this is a flashback in this
video too, Mam Donnie's tenant director. I want to just
listen to the words she uses when she's talking about
people being able to own and rent homes in New
(06:07):
York by nineteen.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think the reality is is that for centuries we've
really treated property as an individualized good and not a
collective good, and we are going to and transitioning to
treating it as a collective good and towards a model
of shared equity will require that we think about it differently,
(06:29):
and it will mean that family is especially white families,
but some POC families who are homeowners as well, are
going to have a different relationship to property than the
one that we currently have.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Okay, so first off, before we dive into the insanity here,
ironclad rule.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You cannot give.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Anyone authority in anything who does this up talking thing,
who does this thing where she starts talking up at
the end of sentences like it was a collective good
and now we're gonna treat it like it's or.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was you know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know what I'm saying, that's always a huge that's
a huge red flag. You don't want to listen to
anybody about anything important. Who does the up talk thing
at the end of sentences. I'm just telling you it's true.
You don't want this person operating on your heart. You
don't want them collecting, you know, rent, you don't want
them doing anything of any importance for you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That's part one, Part two.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Notice that you have to just be like, yeah, we're
just gonna hurt white families more because you know, private
property rights aren't really a thing. This is how these
lunatics speak behind closed doors, and they're not supposed to
be able to fool enough people to have any political power.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But Mom, Donnie, did.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You asked the question, which I think is really good one?
What if Democrats are just wrong about everything? It's not
just Democrats though, it's the base of the Democrat Party
that is driving all of this insanity. And do you
know who the base of the Democrat Party is?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
White women.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
White women are highly educated. White women have bought into
everything that is wrong in America, and they aggressively put
in place policies that are utterly.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Wrong on all fronts.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I just I look at it, and I know every
time I say this, we get you know, it's like
it reminds me of the what was the the Chris
Rock joke he used to tell where women would sing
along to really degrading rap lyrics and they would be like,
he's not talking about me, and he's like he's saying
your name, you know, like it's a great line if
(08:38):
you ever would go out to a bar rap lyrics
very degrading to women, and all the women are dancing
around like crazy, you know, rapping along with the lyrics,
and whenever I say this, white women are.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Like, not me, I'm not it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, okay, But as.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
A percentage, overwhelmingly, the most destructive force in America today
is white women. Left wing and frankly, I married.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Married, unmarried, married white women is really the demographic you're
talking about, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But they are destroying the country and they're wrong on
every single issue. And the scary thing that I bet
this chick that we're that we're playing the audio from,
I bet she's an unmarried white woman, God forbid if
she's got a husband.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Uh, poor bastard.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I will tell you right now, the scary thing
to me, Buck is not being wrong, because trust me,
I've been wrong on a lot. You've been wrong on
a lot. Everybody out there has been wrong on a lot.
It's not being willing or able to recognize when you
are wrong and changing your opinion or changing your lifestyle choices.
(09:49):
These crazy unmarried white women are so committed to the
destructive belief systems that they have that results to don't
change their opinions.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I would tell you, honestly, man, it's just unmarried single women.
It's unmarried women in in like middlely, you know, particularly
like late thirties up until they're fifty. That's that's the demo.
It's it's across all races. They've got really bad.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Well, young young women are wrong like young men are
because they're just knuckleheads and they haven't had enough life
experience to learn. As you age, you start to have
a better life perspective and you can adjust in your opinions.
So younger people, I think, oftentimes have moronica takes. I've
got all sorts of opinions. I had when I was
seventeen that I.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Was saying, I mean, the true base, by the numbers
of the Democrat Party is actually black female voters. That's
the that's the absolute locked in base that they have
when it comes to voting. But I don't know, I
don't know that black women drive the choices made by
the Democrat Party as much as highly educated, unmarried white
(10:55):
women do. That's the base you're talking about, like the
policy director versus who's the base.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's right, You're right.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The percentages of people who are going to show up
and just vote because they've always voted Democrat. Black women
are the most loyal Democrat voters. But the people that
are actually driving the proverbial bus of the Democrat Party
are unmarried white women, and they are driving basically the
bus off the side of a cliff, and they don't
recognize even choices they make. In New York City, Mom, Donnie,
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if he actually puts in place the policies that he
said he's going to do, you know what's going to happen.
Women are going to be infinitely more dangerous in the
lifestyle choices that they make. You're not gonna be able
to ride the subway you're not going to be able
to ride the buses.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're actually making choices that.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Are utterly destructive for their own lifestyle, and they're not
willing to recognize that they made the choice. Remember the
Great Sex and the City show back in the day, Buck,
there's a line where Charlotte, who I thought was the
I think I led women off a cliff whatever, refer
to it as great. I think that show is enormously
destructive to a generation of women. I've always believed that,
(12:06):
and some chicks thought I was crazy years ago, and
now they're like, Buck, you're right, You're like this. It
is an entertaining show, but I think if it's a lifestyle.
But Charlotte at one point has this realization where she's
made all these life choices and they've all been wrong,
and she has this like meltdown or she says, I
chose my choice. I chose my choice. I chose my choice.
(12:29):
That is a realization that you made choices in your
life that led you to the position where you are.
I don't think a lot of these women are capable
of logically recognizing that they have chosen the method of
their own destruction. To use a Ghostbuster's reference. They're actually
making choices that are utterly destructive to their lifestyle, and
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there aren't there isn't a recognition of it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It would be different if you thought, I just this
is something I'd worry out all the time. If you
have a consequence free reality of your world, then how
can you in some way get people to make rational choices.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, this is the lack of accountability I always talking about.
Is the centerpiece of the Democrat Party's pitch to people,
which is that nothing that is in your life that
is bad is your fault or could be changed by you.
It is other people's fault, and the government is there
to hurt those people that are the reason you're dissatisfied
with things, and to give you the things that you
(13:33):
think you deserve. That's like the fundamental pitch of a Democrat.
Really it's just socialism, but they don't call it that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
And speaking of socialism, you've got like Mam Donnie, you
know what we can come back to this Clay, but
Mamdani talking about how World Cup tickets for everybody you
know soccer World Cup tickets. What he's the mayor of
New York. He's not Emperor of the universe. But you know,
if you're a kami, it's the same thing to you.
So yeah, we'll play that. I saw that clip that
(14:02):
was going viral yesterday. Mamdannie has basically decided that he
has to address every single issue every day the mayor
of New York City. I don't know that you really
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Speaker 3 (15:39):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So, we have been talking about mam Donniism in New York,
the early stages of Mamdannism, and we've heard some things
that are troubling from people around it. We've heard from
Mom Donnie himself. In fact, one of the one of
the really the best ones was when he said recently
that he wanted to quote replace the frigidity of rugged
(16:04):
individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He wants to embrace New York City with the warmth
of collectivism and smother it with a pillow when he
does so. I mean, this is really bad stuff, everybody.
Bad stuff that's going to be happening if this guy
gets his way, and even some things that are just preposterous,
like here he is. The World Cup is going to
(16:30):
be in a whole bunch of American cities.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
When does it start Clay.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
June, like early June of like five months from now,
so there'll be a lot of sports ball happening all
over America then.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And Mom, Donnie wants you to know that somehow he's
going to make tickets not expensive in New York so
anyone can go play twenty You know.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I had a New York and the other day come
up to me and ask me if there was any
way I could help him get World Cup tickets because
he was saying that the cost that he saw for
a game was six hundred dollars. Right, this is increasingly
out of reach. We have made what used to be
a working class game into a luxury experience, and there
are too many for whom it doesn't matter where the
World Cup is being played in the world. They know
(17:12):
where they're going to watch it. It's TV, and we
want to ensure that there are more experiences available. It's
each and ever New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm just going to tell the I'm Donnie that I
want private jet travel and see how he handles that one.
He seems to have no understanding play of Yeah, it's
expensive because more people want to go than they can
fit in this seat, so they have to set a
market price.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Well, what's happened?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I mean, I know this because I spend so much
time in the world of sports with stub hubs and
seat geeks of the world. There is never a sellout anymore.
You have a real market based costs. For every athletic
event on the planet or Broadway play, you can always
get a ticket.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The prices have gone up a lot though.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis vock Sexton Show. Oh let's
see we got a bunch of different clips out there.
Tim Walls finally took questions and he refused to resign,
says only will he resign over his dead body?
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Cut thirty Republicans want to tell you everybody with brown
skin is stealing money. Or that they're not welcome here.
They want to do nothing to improve this state. Their
idea of improving this state is being a parrot for
Donald Trump, agreeing to everything that he agreed with. Well,
here's what I'm going to tell you. It ain't happening.
I'm not going anywhere, and you can make all your
(19:36):
requests for me to resign over my dead body will
that happen. I will fight this thing till the very
end to make this state better. And the question that
I think they need to decide is is when do
the guy in the White House resign? When does he
take accountability for what he did? Because it isn't going
to happen here in terms of us shying away from
making a state better.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So you'll get to see me more.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
The good news is on this is is that I.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Got no election to look forward to.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I've been in front of you. I'll call on who
I want to call on, and I'll watch what the
press gets written, and we'll make sure that in this
state there's full accountability for everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Because I buck stops with me.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
I'm accountable for this and because of that accountability, I'm
not running for office again. But I have a year
to continue to improve on a record that I think
will stand up against anybody's, a record that has made
Minnesota better, a record that makes people want to come here,
and a record that has respected not only the dignity
of people, but the idea of rule of law and camaraderie.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay, what's interesting here to me in general is does
it feel like to you the whole like he tried
to start off the argument by saying, Oh, this is
about racism and this is about coming after people who
are brown skin, does it feel like to you that
that argument has just complete Like it used to be,
(20:54):
you could shut down people really quickly if you said, hey,
you know, we got to look at crime and black
guys commit more crime than.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
White guys, They're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You know, the Overton window was so small that if
you said that, they would say that's racist of you
to notice what basic data shows, and they would try
to shut down the conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It feels like they've lost that battle now. And I
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
It's social media just exploiting larger marketplace of ideas conversations,
but they're still trying to make it and it doesn't
even work.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
On legacy media anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes, that's all true, And there's a number of reasons
why I think that Elon Musk's purchase of X is
still one of the most important free speech turning points
in the twenty first century. And I know that for
many of you who aren't even on X or never
on Twitter, you're like, how can that be? It's the
only place at scale. And I know some of you
are gonna tell me truth and whatever, and I appreciate that,
(21:48):
but that's the numbers speak to this. That's a very
small fraction of what you have on exit. It's the
only place at scale where ideas can be shared and
can really take hold of the public consciousness in a
way that is not dominated has not been dominated by
left wing control. We do have a Congressman Chip Roy
(22:09):
out of Texas with us now. Congressman, appreciate you being
with us.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Great too, Witio.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Sorry to step out of our gimpeting that we have
with the President and I had to give you all
a call, but.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Great to be on No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Tell the big guy we send him a high five.
He's doing an amazing job.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
We give him.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Give lots of thanks to him for a great twenty
twenty five. But we're talking here a little bit actually
about what's going on in Minnesota, the flaud there, and
now people are saying, if it's that bad of Minnesota,
what's it look like in California.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What's your take on this one, Congressman.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Yeah, I mean, look what we're signing. What we're seeing
there is the inevitable outcome of two things. A very
broken immigration system, both legal and illegal, that flooded our country,
particularly places like Minneapolis, with the individuals who are you know,
obviously engaging in right in rampant fraud and taking taxpayer
money and base expanding it and bringing family members over
(23:02):
and abusing our immigration system. But it's also the product
of a welfare state is out of control. We had
been doling out billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of
dollars NonStop now for years, and it's put on steroids
under the Biden administration. And now all of those two
things collided to produce this disaster in Minneapolis. Yes, it's
bad in California. Remember, by the way, last May June,
(23:23):
when we were working to get the big beautiful bill passed,
Remember those of us who were fighting and saying we
needed the Medicaid work requirements and that we needed requirements
to clamp down on fraud. Remember, we were being saying, well,
you're going to take away Medicaid, You're going to make
all these No, we were trying to make sure that
only American citizens were able to get that benefit through Medicaid,
and we were trying to get rid of fraud. And
(23:43):
by the way, Medicaid keeps going up under the big
beautiful bill. But we're just trying to type down on
the fraud. Now we've got miles to go. We're trying
to fight through the appropriations process now working with the
President's team at the Office Management and Budget. Now you've
got DJ and you've got them out there investigating in Minnesota.
We need to keep doing it and exposing it. And frankly,
all of you people out there that are keyboard warriors
looking at this stuff and finding the information. There's a
(24:04):
great guy, what is it, olfol Rando, his Twitter Accounty
is a great Texan dives into all of these accounts
and they, frankly, do a lot of workforce to help
identify this stuff. So we're going after it and doing
the best we can, and we got to just do
more because that fraud is all over the place because
of the money that's flowing.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You're running for Attorney General of Texas in addition to
being a congressman right now, Venezuela. What is the read
on oil and gas from somebody who's in a state
that knows more about oil and gas than anybody. What
is the reaction that you're hearing from the people in
the oil and gas industry. What do you think should
happen will happen with Venezuela.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Well, first of all, the president should great leadership, and
what he did in engaging in Venezuela, this is not unprecedented. Obviously,
Noriego was a president. Legally, I think the president's going
to be on strong footing in court. Went out and
extricated somebody who and bought I'm here for justice, who'd
been indicted for engaging and carrying out criminal activity and
organized crime with cartels and putting drugs into our communities.
So it's the right thing to do. They're now going
(25:01):
to try to make sure that it's stable. Let that
Venezuela and people do what they need to do to
pick their leadership and run their country, but we're going
to make sure it's stable first. But remember they nationalized
the oil fields and their oil industry and took a
lot of the investments that Americans put in their ten
twenty thirty forty years ago, and that was a real
issue that we've got to now unwind and then make
(25:21):
sure now that oil isn't going to our enemies and
isn't going to China, isn't going to Iran, isn't going
to Russia, and rather as being able to flow into
Western hemisphere. And so I think that's going to happen.
I think people I'm talking to in the oil and
gas space are excited that we can have some oil
supply to help, you know, free up the market. I mean, look,
we can produce massive amounts.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Of oil here, but there's always limits to.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
What we can do with our fracking. It's so it's
nice to have multi sources and not be reliant on
any one area. So to add to Venezuela supply back
into the pipeline.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
So to speak, is viewed favorably.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
But also, you know, we need to make sure that
we don't have, you know, another situation where we go
invest in it and then it gets nationalized again. So
presidents doing the right thing, but we got to do
a lot of work to make sure that we can
rely on it.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
How concerned are you, Congressman, about the next steps in Venezuela,
specifically pretending to the security and internal it's not a
stable place. The stability might be the wrong word, but
keeping this place from devolving into a hobbsey and mess.
(26:24):
What do you think are the ways forward here? And
how do you think the administration is going to be
able to handle some of these challenges?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Well, first of all, Marco Review has been doing a
fantastic job Secretary State. In every situation he's been put in,
He's great this weekend articulating why this is critical to
our national security interest, the Trump doctrine, whatever you want
to call it, with respective focusing on the Western hemisphere,
to push out our enemies and to increase the relationships
and the reliance on other countries in the Western hemisphere,
on America and not our enemies, not China, not Russia.
(26:54):
These are all things that are critically important. I am
concerned about the next steps. Those are very real concerns.
They've got a lot of people in the regime are
still in place. There's a lot of corruption that still exists.
Moving one guy out of it is a good step,
but it's not going to be the whole solution. We
got to work to try to get Venezuela back on
its feed, get it back to where it was economically
two decades ago, but moving forward to the stronger rule
(27:15):
of law and to have a better society that is
built on our Republican principles here and so I think
we've got a lot of work to do, but we
can do it, and it's worth it. Okay, this is
not the nation building of trying to go build a
country over in Iraq, you know, for twenty years while
you spend seven trillion dollars and lose seven thousand men
and women and seventy five thousand injuries. Which what we're
dealing with here is in our western hemisphere, in our backyard,
(27:37):
just south of Cuba, a country that is rich with
minerals that can be a benefit to our entire civilization
over here, but that we need to stab a loze.
So I think the President is doing the right thing,
but it's going to take a lot of work. This
is not easy. I'm not a big believer in, you know,
regime change in nation building. But what we're trying to
do here is create stability with an important country in
the Western hemisphere that's important to our national security interests.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We're talking to Congressman Ship Roy, running for the attorney
General of the state of Texas. When you look at
what's happened Tim Walls, we just played a couple of
cuts from him press conference availability today is political career
is effectively over. What does that tell us about the
dwindling power of legacy media When effectively this is a
(28:21):
twenty three year old on YouTube who went and did
his own investigation into fraud in Minnesota and I think
effectively ended Tim Walls's career. How does this change the
dynamics of the political universe and also the trajectory of
our country.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Well, look, I think this is an important moment and
I think we should recognize that. And I've been talking
about this quite a bit because when I mentioned a
minute ago, right, I wasn't joking when I said that
those are the listeners out there, the people who focus
on this stuff. They can go do some of this investigative,
investigative work that helps us with policy because people don't
realize that, you know, in the Congressional office, right, I mean,
I have fourteen or fifteen staff, half of them are
(28:59):
doing constituent services and you know, engagement with my constituents.
And you've got a handful of policy people, and you
have to do bills every day, and so it's hard
for us to go to the deep dive investigative work.
So when we've got support from the outside, which should
have been the media, right, the media is supposed to
be seeking truth wherever it may lead, right to quote
Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
They haven't been doing that. They've been an.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Advocate for radical Marxism and leftism. And now you've got
people like Nick who went out and did the hard work,
you know, on the ground in Minneapolis and Minnesota. And
now hopefully we're going to see more of that, and
see that in California and see that ever in Texas, right,
I mean, there's fraud in Texas and that we had
to root out. There's medicaid fraud division of the AG's Office,
the Attorney General's Office that you know, I want to
(29:39):
make sure we're focusing on reading out all the medicaid fraud.
But I know Texas is better than California and Minneapolis
and or Minnesota and New York.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
But we've got to have that.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
We've got to have people on the outside that are
helping us. Again, the founders understood the importance of the
freedom of the press. The question is who is the press?
And right now, with technology and with what Elon did
with X, it's impressive now what you can allow what
a twenty three year old, to your point, can do
to bring out truth. Again, this is all about seek
truth wherever it may lead. That's the goal.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Do you think that there will be accountability though a
lot of people, Congressman become very disillusioned with our system
when there's this exposure of something like this, and then
we're wondering, well, is anyone actually going to go to
prison over this? I mean, I saw I think this
is a US Attorney's office in Atlanta, Georgia is bringing
(30:32):
a prosecution against the state rep there for stealing fifteen
thousand dollars something like that in COVID funds. And they're
bringing that prosecution under public integrity and they're like, look,
you're a public official and you're stealing money from the
states you live in. That's unacceptable. I see what's going
on in Somalia. I'm hearing the people are take I'm
sorry with the Somalis in Minnesota, and you hear that
people are taking the GDP of Somalia from that state
(30:55):
and fraud.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Is anyone going to go to prison?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, I mean you make a good point of I
tweeted that out early. I think it was the first
maybe to put that out, that their GDP thirteen billion
and we're talking about eighteen billion of potential fraud. Now
that's the potential number. That tweet got thirty five million views.
By the way, just to be clear about how much
people are recognizing this, and I think that's important to
your point. Yes, heads need to roll. I am glatified
(31:19):
to see that. I think I saw something like a
thousand prosecutions that were being discussed in the news reports
that I saw this morning or yesterday. You know, look,
this takes a little bit of work. You got to
prove up a case. I'm a former federal prosecutor in
the US Attorney's Office, and remember are typically our federal
laws are not designed for us to have a federal
police force, in federal prosecutorial force going into states but
(31:42):
where you've got the abuse of federal funds, where you've
got the nexus to the fraud of these federal tax
dollars flowing, and you have public servants who are engaging
in that kind of behavior, there's absolutely room for federal prosecutions.
We need to follow the truth wherever it may lead
on this stuff in terms of including state leaders and
those that are involved in knowingly and intentionally violating our laws.
(32:03):
And we've got to dive into it. And you know, look,
people ask me all the time, why isn't Judge Boseberg
being impeached? Well, I agree he should be. I mean
we should bring it up and if we should have
the vote, and if some Republicans won't vote for it,
then they got to go answer to their constituents. I
think we need to have some votes here on judicial impeachments.
I think we need to see prosecutions out of the
US Attorney's offices.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
And I hope we will.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Last question for you quickly here as we go to
break how much difference is Texas with a completely secured
southern border, And privately, do even some Democrats come up
to you and say, boy, things are so much better
here with a completely secured southern border.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I would call a lot of those folks, former Democrats,
frankly people South Texas.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Who have been looking at this going yeash. I mean,
that was.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Ridiculous what we were dealing with, the danger, the fentanyl,
the cartels, the criminal activity, the fact that our hospitals
and jails were all filled up. Now they see what
can happen when you just simply enforce the law that
I made. I literally just made it fifteen minutes ago.
Sitting in front of my Republican colleagues in our meeting,
I said, remember that the president had basically secured the
border in twenty twenty. It wasn't quite as tight as
it is now, but it was pretty tight. And guess
(33:11):
what happened? It got blown to hell in a matter
of months under Biden and my orcs. We Congress must
codify the President's agenda, the president's actions that he's taken
as as president on the border, and pass what we
passed last Congress. Remember we passed Hr two, that strong
Border security bill. We have not passed that again. We
(33:31):
need to pass it. Sendate a to the Senate. We
need to force them to act if we don't codify
this stuff, then the next Democrat president will abuse it again.
So it's a great to answer your question. Texas in
a lot better spot. But look, we still have a
lot of people we still need to remove. Ice is
doing a good job, but we've got to go out
and find the folks that have been violating our laws,
the people that were wrongly parolled, and give it granted asylum,
(33:53):
move them, and then we need to pass laws to
codify these things to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Congressmanship Joy of the Great State of Texas, the next
Attorney general there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We appreciate the time, sir.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Thanks guys, take care.
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was way off, which is a pretty obscure line. Apparently
not though, because you guys, many, many, many of you
nailed that. We have a montage of your genius schemed
listeners play gg.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That would be a reference to Dumb and Dumber. That's
absolutely dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
The Samsonite reference is clearly from Dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I got you reference. It's dumb and dumber.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
Totally from Dumb and DUMMERKA classic reference.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Samsonite is from the movie Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I just wanted to say, I got that Easter egg.
That's dumb and Dumber, one of the funniest movies ever.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Gen me tell dumb and Dummer.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I did not google it and didn't need to.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Dumb and Dumber. The Samsonite swunson Sampsonite. That is dumb
and Dummer.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
If anybody doesn't know dom and Dummer, then they're just crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I love you, guys, Man Clay. They nailed it, nailed it.
That's really good.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I just think in twenty six we could have some
fun if we tried to drop something in a couple
of times a week and didn't tell people and see
if they catch.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
It, like like like let's Easter eggs. I like it.
Good idea
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