May 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the American education system, homeschooling, and the broader implications of how children are taught in the U.S. Clay and Buck open the hour with a nostalgic reflection on the joy of summer break for schoolchildren, sparking a broader conversation about the structure and effectiveness of traditional schooling. Buck critiques the current school model as outdated and overly rigid, likening it to a form of institutionalized childcare rather than a system optimized for learning. Clay shares his personal experiences with public education and homeschooling, emphasizing the need for more practical life skills—like personal finance, mortgages, and compound interest—in school curricula.
The hosts also discuss the benefits of homeschooling, citing examples of families who have successfully educated their children outside the traditional system. They highlight how homeschooling can offer flexibility, personalized learning, and opportunities for real-world experiences. The conversation touches on historical education models, including how figures like Abraham Lincoln thrived with minimal formal schooling, and critiques the modern education system as a relic of the industrial era.
A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to an interview with Daniel Cameron, former Kentucky Attorney General and current U.S. Senate candidate. Cameron discusses the recent tornado devastation in Kentucky, his campaign to replace Mitch McConnell, and his alignment with Donald Trump’s America First agenda. He emphasizes issues like border security, energy independence, and fighting DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies. Cameron also addresses the shifting political landscape, particularly how younger men across racial lines are moving away from the Democratic Party due to its stance on masculinity and traditional values.
Listeners also hear from callers who share their homeschooling success stories and challenge Clay’s earlier comments about the usefulness of geometry, particularly the Pythagorean theorem, in real-world trades like electrical work.
This hour is packed with insightful commentary on education reform, conservative values, homeschooling benefits, and 2024 Senate race developments, making it a must-listen for politically engaged parents, educators, and voters interested in the future of American schooling and conservative leadership.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, Thursday edition. I bet
that some of you are starting maybe they put one
foot out the door. Memorial Day weekend starts in earnest.
Maybe for some of you already might be tipping back
a few drinks. I just went downstairs and the Travis
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boys have all finished school.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
For the year.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I understand some of you are like what, We
start early down a year in August a lot of times,
especially for football season. But so my kids are all
done so for the next two and a half months.
If you hear screaming in the background in my house,
it's probably kids fighting over video game controllers because they
are home for the summer. I promise that they are fine.
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But I asked you this off Airbuck, and I tweeted
about it here. As we get into the third hour,
is there any adult joy that is as pure as
the joy of a kid getting out of school for
the entire summer? Like every person who is out there
listening to me right now, just thinking about how joyful
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that made you when you were a kid, is experiencing
that from a nostalgic perspective. There are significant life moments
as adults, kids, marriages, buying a home, all of these
different things that are great. Maybe for some of you, retirement.
I don't know what it feels like to walk out
of a job and be like, I'm never doing that again.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Maybe there is an adult experience retirement style. But I
can't remember anything that is just more freeing than being
the kid walking out of school. Hey, that year is over, buddy,
nothing else to worry about, the big long stretch of summer.
Can you think of anything as an adult that is
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the equivalent of that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, And it's I think the first thing, the first
time as a kid you experienced overwhelming joy, with the
possible exception of like the perfect Christmas Morning, which I
think is also perhaps you know, a very very nice
moment for a lot of for a lot of kids.
But you know, it reminds me. I don't know our
school system, the way that we have it all set up.
(02:18):
I have pretty radical ideas on this. Maybe this isn't
the right forum for it, but I think the whole
I think kids are in school for far too long.
I think that school days is basically glorified childcare for
most people.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think people.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Should spend more time with their families. I think that
education has been made more democratized online than ever before.
And I'm not saying no. Obviously was a big, a
big proponent of in person learning during COVID everything. I'm
not saying get rid of school. I'm just saying, I mean,
I look, I just remember I remember being in school,
particularly high school. But being in school it felt like
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all the time, and always being tired all the time.
I think, I think all the time. Yeah, and that's
not good. That's actually not the way you should go
through life. We wouldn't we wouldn't accept that as adults,
and people are saying, well, a little bit is it's
like no, like getting getting up early in the morning
to practice for sports teams, or finishing sports games at
nine o'clock at night, and then having two hours of
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homework or three hours of homework. I mean, I went
to a pretty intense place for high school, but this
is not the way it should be. And I anyway,
I know I'm a little bit of a Schools are
a little bit more like prison than we wanted than
we want to admit.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's a little and I didn't expect to a school
now to turn into their prisons. Well I feel a
little bit like like you're the guy in the Shawshank
Redemption when he gets out of prison finally on that
last day of school.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Should it feel like that or should it be, Oh,
I'm gonna miss everybody around me. I never missed everybody.
I was like, get me out of here. Well, so
I loved school.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But I will say that my eyes opened a bit
on the homeschooling thing when I talked to a lot
of homeschooling parents and they say, hey, you know, we
can get through the entire lesson in two or three outs,
and then the kids are able to experience other things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, Now the challenge is what do your kids do
with all that extra time? Because my kids would play
video games and like, so I think how that time
is used.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Every kid is different.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But I have, in all honesty, I feel incredibly fortunate
as a parent. All of my kids will go public
school K to six. So in our neighborhood, we have
a fabulous school in our community. I feel like we've
gotten amazing teachers. I feel really fortunate they are kindergarten
to sixth grade. Even during COVID, it was obviously retrospect.
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They should have never shut down schools to finish that year.
But my kids are back in school in August of
twenty twenty full go all those things. And the seventh
through twelfth grade school that my boys go to is
also fabulous. So I feel like they're getting good options.
But I know a lot of people shoul really feel
that way. And someone I really like on that you
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guys have heard me tweet. I don't know if he
if he'd come on, if we're really his his speed,
but I've always I like this guy at a Silicon
Valley naval rabacon who's proached. You know, he's become a
he's one of the pro Trump Silicon Valley guys. Now
you know he's like the all in guys. He's just
really really smart, uh and has a lot of brilliant
things to say on a whole range of issues.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You've seen him, he's he's appeared on a lot of
the big podcasts. And he's a guy Clay who, like you,
effectively unlimited resources for his children and he he does
homeschooling and like tries to maximize their freedom as long
as they have the like they do the lesson planning
or whatever it is they have to do. So he
takes a very uh and he went to an elite
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high school in New York and everything. And you know,
he's one of these guys, right who he did all
the all the bells and whistles stuff in the education
world himself. And now he's just like, I don't think
that this really really needs to be done. Here's some
interesting stuff. When you actually look at this, you find
out that because people say, well what about you know,
look at the American educational system, it wasn't really until
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we were largely herded into factories and offices that the
notion of a nine months of the year and nine
to five essentially, I maybe even nine to three in
most schools school day was the norm the school.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I just just googled this for fun.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I mean, I knew that this was roughly the case
that all throughout the nineteenth century. I understand different times everything,
but pre industrial America, yes, people had helped their families
in the farms, et cetera. But students went to school
about seventy eight days a year. Now, just think about
this for a second. Someone like Abraham Lincoln would have grow.
You know, you say Abraham Lincoln went to school, someone
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like Abraham Lincoln or his era, they would have gone
to school for two or three you know, the equivalent
of like three months something like that, like that, and
you're able to learn a lot in those three months.
My point is that so much of school is wasted
because so much of school is just to have adults
who are paid to watch children so they don't, you know,
stab themselves in the eye with a pencil or like
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run out in front of a train or something. It's
really not about kids can't learn for eight hours a day?
Am I too radical and crazy on this? Kids cannot
learn for.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Eight hours, Clay, You and I can't learn for eight hours.
I finished the show.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
My wife tries to talk to me, and she's like,
feel like a mummy for an hour. I'm like yeah,
because I've just put her all out there for three hours.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I think. So here's by the way, there's Supreme Court
decision today in schooling that came down tied four to four.
So Oklahoma does not have the right to have charter
religious schools. And that's a simplification. Amy Cony Barrett recused herself.
So the Oklahoma Supreme Court decision stands because there was
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not a majority in the court.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Here's what I believe. Am I totally nuts?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Like like, well, so here's my concern about much of schooling.
It is that we have stopped, to a large extent
experimenting with Now children are taught and we are just
throwing money at it, and a lot of kids are
being failed by the process.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, that's because it's a jobs program. It's not about
the kids, and it's about the teachers' unions getting their
perks and their bennies and not actually about you know,
stuff going for the kids the best way that it can.
Now again, I feel because I was a public school
kid K through twelve my seven to twelfth grade, I
felt like I couldn't have gotten a better education my
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kids K to six and seven twelve, I think because
we have the resources, but public school K to six
has been fabulous for them, and then our seven to
twelfth grade is great too. I do what again, when
I looked at the homeschooling concepts, one of the things
that I think we do a really poor job of.
And this is me getting on my soapbox now as
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a parent with three kids in school. Much of what
our kids are taught they will never actually use in
their real life. Oh man, I could go, I go.
This gives me really fired up. For instance, I grew
I thought I went to a great school. I graduated.
Nobody ever sat down and talked to me about how
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mortgages work, or about what carriers and finance should be
something that everybody learns high school age.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Very basic stuff. You know, balance a checkbook is old school.
But just talking about life skills, I understand some of
you have gone on and my father in law as
an engineer, at no point in life have I ever
needed to find the hypot news of a triangle or
apply to pethic thagarean theorem.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And I understand you're like, well, you're really just teaching
your brain how to think. I think there are other
things I could have taught my brain how to think that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Would have been more useful in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And so I feel like we really would benefit from
basic economic training, from basic probability and statistics being embedded
in school learning, and that many of the things that
are a part of our regular curriculum are to a
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large extent useless and that doesn't mean that if you
are intrigued by something that you shouldn't be able to
pursue it, because the reality is, Look, I majored in
history undergrad I'm never going to stop reading history books.
And if you told me tomorrow, hey, you are basically
finite in the education that you have received. I want
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to learn something new every day and I want to
remain intellectually curious, and those are important assets to have.
But I feel like a dogmatic training schedule where you
teach a lot of kids things they don't need, it
doesn't make sense. And by the way, for shop too,
Like I was reading a great story and more power
to it. I think it's Philadelphia where they're teaching kids
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how to weld.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
If you know you're not going to go to.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
College, these kids are getting higher. I think it's a
front page Wall Street journal. I read seventy five thousand
dollars a year, and they're being trained how to weld
in school and they come out and they're getting recruited.
I mean, that's fabulous, Like, why don't we have more
things like this?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
If people think that DOGE found a lot of waste,
fraud and abuse in the federal government. If you actually
looked at the realities of public education in this country
and is what is foisted upon people and what we're
paying for, especially with your property taxes and everything else.
It's a car It's just a giant cartel, and it
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really is set up. It was never set up for
the benefit of children. It was set up to be
a babysitting program so that adults could go to their
offices or their factories and labor. And that is the
whole that is the whole point of it. Just like
in the Soviet Union, by the way, I mean, this
is what they actually wanted. Ever, this is going back
to the industry revolution the early nineteen hundreds, and that's
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when all of a sudden you have people going to
school for most of the year, five days a week.
You know, Notice how it aligns with what a adults
need for their work schedules. I'm just saying, Clay, I mean,
just to take this really simply. Uh, do you think
you could have learned? I know you you enjoyed. Look,
I had a good grammar school experience. I thought my
high school was a little too intense and a little
too nerdy. I mean, I'm not I'm not particularly fond
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of the place. But do you think you could have
learned the same amount of stuff with half of the
classroom instruction? But I'm certain that I could have. I
went to law school. I think you're talking about young
young forget about it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, No, but I think I think it extends into
grad school, perhaps even more. I had to go to
law school for three years to take the bar exam.
I think if you had told me you have six
months as you used to have to study to take
you used to just be able to pass the bar
exam and not have to go to law school, and
you could be like back in the day Andrew Jackson.
You apprenticed and you got to look at the books
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and you got to memorize all the stuff. I think
if you had told me you have six months to
study aggressively all of the law and then you will
take bar exam, I think I could have passed the
bar exam with six months of preparation. Instead, they made
me and look. I loved Vanderbilt Law School. I met
my wife there, some of my best friends are there.
(13:11):
It was an incredible three year experience. But it basically
is a barrier to being able to become a lawyer,
because you have to spend whatever it is, a quarter
million dollars now to go to law school to then
be able to have the right to take the bar exam.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think I want.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
This is blocking out achievement. Think thinking a little bit
outside of the box of this. You know, Clay, you're
a very sociable guy, and a lot of grad school
based on and I remember I went into getting it.
I went into media instead of grad school. So I
looked at this decision and it was just because I
didn't want to rack up all the debt and I
always wanted to work in media, and it kind of
just fell on my lap. Thank you, Glenn. But you
know you would have made connect It's it's to make
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connections and as social proof essentially for a lot of people.
And you know you would have made connections and found
your social proof otherwise, you know, without spending.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But you know we need to me Laura, I'm not
saying that, but you don't what I'm saying Like.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm just I am sympathetic for people who could be
So one of the things I again nerd out on
is to me, the job of any government should be
to allow the largest number of people to have the
greatest possible success based on individual liberty to pursue whatever
their talent is. I think around a lot of time now, buck,
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how many kids out there don't maximize their ability because
of barriers that are put in place that are not
particularly beneficial. In other words, they're the most brilliant lawyer
in America might not be able to have the money
to go to law school. And that doesn't seem right
to me. I'm a long term gold guy. Let's talk
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about this for a second, shall we.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
If you see what gold has done, you could pull
it up on a chart, for example, and you can
see that for the last oh, I don't know, choose
a number of decades. Gold, if you're a long term holder,
has been a sound investment. I believe in gold, and
we just had Ran Paul on today and he's telling
you the truth, which we're not actually tackling the debt.
We're making the debt worse. We're going to be crowding
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out private sector investment. I'm sorry to say this is
not going to change anytime soon and probably ever in
our lifetime, which means that dollars are going to be
decreasing in value. There will be inflation, and you can
do something about that now. This is where gold comes
in as a hedge against that inflation and the economic
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uncertainty and the financial crunch that it will cause. But
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You want to take action now and build your gold
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I think about I've been doing this for fifteen years.
You think about the people that have been telling you
(15:50):
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and central banks are hoarding it because they know that
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You've switched now to another job. You got a new
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safest long term thing that any of us can think of?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
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All right, welcome back to play and Buck take a
call here real quick. Jana in Tampa, you're up. Hello,
Hello Johanna and Tampa. Yes, hey, you got about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I just wanted to say that my family chose homeschooling
when my kids were at young ages, and we never
looked back. We had the option to do a lot
of different schools, and we started out in a private school,
and at second grade, I said, you know what I
can do this. I can give my family the character
training that I want them to have. I can teach
from American history from the right perspective. I can go
as faster as slow as we want to in every class,
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do as many sports as we want to. And we
were involved in so many activities. We traveled. It was amazing, awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Flowing through the Thursday
edition of the program. We're joined now by the Bluegrass
State's own Daniel Cameron, running for the Senate seat to
be vacated by Mitch Mama Connell next year.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And first of all, I'll start with this.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We have not talked about it a great deal, but
I know the state of Kentucky, along with Missouri, was
slammed by tornadoes over the last several days and over
the last week. I'm sure that has been a major
part of what you have been seeing and talking about
in the state. How are people doing so far as
you can tell us, Daniel.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, Clay Buck, thank you guys for having us on.
Ye it's I mean heartbreaking to see the lives lost
in parts of our community, particularly in the summerset in London,
community Pulaski and Laurel County. It was obviously just completely
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heartbreaking to lose folks and the devastation that occurred.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We've been encouraging.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
People to help out the London Police Department. They're collecting goods.
I've also encouraged people to go to Samaritan's Purse and
American rep Cross.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
So there are a few.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Different outlets and obviously the communities local churches really vital
to helping rebuild and getting folks back on their feet.
But it's going to be a long process. In fact,
I'll be down there on Saturday to visit with some folks.
But yeah, thanks for bringing that up, because I know
folks all across the country have been praying for those
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communities in particular. You know, we had storms all across
the state that those communities in particular were hit really hard.
So thank you for bringing that up. And yeah, if
anybody wants to give too, I mean again, the Samaritans Purse,
American Red Cross, local churches down in those areas certainly
would be grateful.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I know it's early and the election is not until
next year. That is the Republican primary to set up
who's going to be running to replace Mitch McConnell on
that side. But what does the focus seem to be
to you so far as you travel the state of
Kentucky and hear from people about the issues they care
about the most.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, Clay, I mean, I think people want a senator
from Kentucky that is going to stand with President Trump
and help support an agenda that is about building back, building,
back up our mental class and the working men and
women of this country. President Trump campaigned on that. That's
what this big beautiful bill is about, is making sure
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that we can lower people's taxes so they have more
money in their pockets. This is an administration that is
about securing our border, fighting the drug academic It's about
creating energy independence in this country.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
In Kentucky, we are a commonwealth to the extent we
have a competitive advantage. It's about our fossil fields industry.
It's coal and natural gas. And having a president in
the White House that recognizes that in order to have
energy independence, we have to have in prioritize are fossil fuels.
That's a big deal. And so Kentuckians want a senator
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that's going to stand up for their values, fight for
the Trump agenda, and I'm going to do that and
I've got a track record of having done that as
Attorney General. You know there will be people that jump
into this race, but what you will never hear somebody
say is that there's going to be somebody that's more
conservative and more supportive of the Trump administration than Daniel Cameron,
because there's not going to be. I've shown it with
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my record, and I'm led by conviction. I mean, right now,
in my current day job, I'm fighting diversity, equity inclusion,
I'm fighting against ESG because these are convictions. These are
core convictions for me, and I want to take that
spirit and that energy to the United States Senate and
fight on behalf of Kentuckian's and that's why I'm going.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
To win come.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You're right, we're about a little less than a year
away from the May primary. But I'm in a strong
position given all the polling right now. I think the
most recent poll have me up thirty points to my
next Clobe competitor. We're going to win this primary and
we're going to win the general as well, and I
want as many people to get on board as they
possibly can. I mean, I tell people all the time,
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go to Cameron for Kentucky dot com check us out.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Certainly would be grateful for the help and support.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
When you ran against Andy Basheer in the governor's race.
It seems like Andy Basheer is going to try to
run for president of the United States in twenty twenty eight.
And I know you're running for the Senate. But when
you look around at the candidates that the Democrat Party
is putting forward. We talk a lot on this program
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about how young men, black, white, Asian, Hispanic are breaking
away from the Democrat Party. And you know, I really say, men,
you know, younger than the age of forty five, for instance,
certainly eighteen to twenty four year olds is.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Off the charts. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And do you see that reflected when you travel around
in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Absolutely, I mean you know that, you know, men in
particular wants somebody that's not going to demean them, is
not going to belittle them, is not going to tell
them that they are the problem in every circumstance. And
President Trump spoke to men of all races. He spoke
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to men across this country in a way that candidly
Republican and Democrats just hadn't done. And I think men
have been gravit gravitating to the Republican Party because again,
they're tired of a Democratic party that tell that belittles
them and tells them again that they are the issue
to every problem in this country.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
President Trump has been strong in support of, frankly, people
of all walks of life. But the reason that men
of different races have been coming to the Republican Party
is because, again, this is a party that says, hey,
it's it's okay to be a man, it's okay to
be strong, it's okay to be a leader, and you
don't I have to apologize for that. And the Democrats,
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for whatever reason, have decided to double and triple down
on this ideology that tells you it's okay for men
to play in women's sports, that we somehow need to
be afraid of masculinity. Again, President Trump says, let's disregard that,
let's focus on men being leaders, working hard, providing for
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their families. And I hear that from people all across
Kentucky that are tired of a Democratic party that, you know,
candidly has tried to diminish the importance of men in
our society. And you know again, President Trump has recognized
that has looked for ways to make sure men know
that this is a party that supports them and is
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going to value them.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We're talking to Daniel Cameron, running for Senate in Kentucky.
I don't know if you've seen this news yet, but
you played college football at Louisville.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There is news now.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That the top twelve teams are going to make the
college football playoff in order they're going to be seeded
that way. That is just broken in the last fifteen
or twenty minutes. Do you expect if you go on
and I think you will become the next senator from Kentucky,
do you expect that your Louisville Cardinal will during your
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first term in office make the college football Playoff? Would
that be an expectation in six years?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Clay On the first point, I did play football U
of L. But play is a very generous term.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I took people all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I had a front row seat to the best team
in the house when I was sitting on the bench.
But hey man, look Hope springs Eternal. I believe in
coach Brohm. Look, I believe wholeheartedly that within the first
six years we're going to have a U OFL football
team that is playing in the playoffs and hopefully competing
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ultimately for that national championship.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
That's my hope. Again.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
You know, Jeff coach brom was one of the quarterbacks
coaches when I was playing, and they just the Broms
have a heart for not only the university but for
the community. And I know that's on their heart to
push and to strive to get us in that national
championship game. So I'm hopeful that will happen. I'm hoping
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it'll happen on the earlier side of my term and not.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Towards the end.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, our fans, our fans are like Tennessee fans.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
They're like all fans. They want success immediately.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
So let's make sure we get them there early as
opposed to the latter end of that first turn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, So last question for you. We just had
the Kentucky Derby a couple of weeks ago. Buck and
I were up there last year. It was fabulous for pit. Now,
I know you're a Louisville guy, but one of the
coolest things obviously is the derby, but also Keenland is
pretty fabulous and a lot of UK people tell me
that the combo and I still haven't done it. The
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combo of Kentucky football and Keenland Race Day is one
of the best days for a sports fan anywhere, even
as a U U of L guy, even as a
Louisville guy, would you give them that nod and say,
Keenland plus UK Football Day is pretty tough to beat.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
That's a that's a hard That is a hard day
to beat, regardless of where you are in the country.
I mean that there's no better atmosphere than than spending
a little time at Keenland and then at the uh
you know for UK football.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Game as well.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And I'll just say, you know, in that circumstance, not
only do you get to tailgate once, but you get
to tell gate twice because people tailgate before they go
into to Keenland and then you tailgate before you go
into the football game. Uh so yeah, I mean, I
I don't think you can you can argue with that position.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Uh look there, Look.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I'm I'm excited to be in a in a in
a commonwealth, in a state where we've got candidly like
two two roughly two programs right now that like are
really trying to get there together. I mean it makes
the whole state better. I mean, you know how rivalries work, man,
when when both teams are playing well or you know,
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trying to contend, whether it's in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Or the ACC. You know, that's a good thing for
our state.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
So I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm hopeful that you know,
next time you guys designed to come up for the combo, man,
you're gonna invite me to tag a lot with you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We're going to try to do it this fall. I'm
looking forward to it. Daniel Cameron, where can people find
you if they're interested in following along with the Senate race?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Look again, I encourage your listeners to go to Cameron
for Kentucky dot com.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Join us, help us.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
If you want to give us some financial support, we'd
be grateful for that as well. But again, this is
for our kids and our grandkids. This is for making
sure we have a merit based opportunity to society as
opposed to what we've seen from the Dei bunch. This
is about restoring that American dream helping President Trump push
forward on his agendas for the American worker, for the
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men and women of this commonwealth and country. So I
hope you'll join us, come on and let's go win
this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Outstanding stuff. As always, we appreciate you and we will
talk to you again soon. Good luck on the campaign.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I appreciate your brother.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
God bless that's Daniel Cameron. You can check him out
as he just laid it out. And Buck is going
to be back here in a second. I'm gonna really
let him kind of pour his sorrows out as a
longtime New York Nick fan with the collapse that they
had in last night's game. But Oklahoma City is rolling
right now, Minnesota Timberwolves are in the mix. We got
(30:37):
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Speaker 2 (31:32):
Hi, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're closing up
shop for the day.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Make sure you check out the Clay and Buck podcast
network today and over this long holiday weekend, which reminds
me Clay's got you solo.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'm gonna be taking on little Man Judy as I
call him in the morning, mister James Speed and I.
We're gonna make sure Carrie can One thing I've realized,
Clay at this stage, got to make sure that your
wife or this case, my wife gets to be with
other adults sometimes and gets to get out of the
house sometimes.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Very valuable and important for young babies and mom health insanity.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yes, yeah, so I'm gonna be a.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I'm a mean, lean bottle feeding diaper changing machine at
this point, everybody, I'm I'm skilled in the arts of
dad baby stuff. At least I've gotten pretty good at this.
Let's take some calls and also some talkbacks. This GG
talkback Clay Richard in Louisville wants to call you out.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Hey, guys, this is Richard here from Louisville.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Just wanted to tell you I did need the Pythagorean theorem.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I'm a master electrician with Local three sixty nine, and
that's one of the exact formulas that we use in
the apprenticeship to figure out several different things. Never did
I think I would use it. I wish I understood
it better back then, and why I need it now?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Clay, you're getting called out for being a Pythagorean doubter.
But also he clearly was on like the electrician machine
room floor or whatever there. Yeah, he was, he was
working hard there giving us a call about it. I
have If there's kids getting out of school listening to
me right now, I know it's gonna fly in the
face of everything you've been told. Much of what you
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use in geometry I have never used in my entire life.
And I've also never thought, boy, I really wish that
I knew geometry better now. I've wished that I understood
mortgage is better. I've wished that I understood, as we
were talking about off the air, how compound interest works.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I wish I knew how to read a ballot sheet better.
There are lots of things I wish I had been
taught that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
There should be a day in every high school across America,
in like eighth grade or ninth grade or whatever, where
they're just like, this is compound interest Day everybody, because
you think that saving some money from your summer job
or from your you know, from whatever, also bringing back
kids working.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
In their teen years. I hootored for money.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, you had jobs for money, like doing things
you make, you know, fifteen dollars hour, twenty dollars an hour.
That doesn't seem like to a lot of people now, like, oh,
I have to be an influencer on TikTok to make
any money. Well, actually, you can save money and build
up real wealth if you have a steady as she
goes approach to things and understand compound interest. So Heather,
and in Nashville, by the way, I bet she teaches
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her boys in her homeschool program about compound it. Just
what's going on, Heather.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Okay, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Fantastic?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Great?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Yeah, just call him. I caught a little bit about
your homeschool and in just a few seconds, and I
just wanted to share with you.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
At home schools for four years.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
My daughter is a sophomore going to be a junior
at a private school in Nashville. She got a seventy
five percentship. My son just graduated saturday and he got
a full scholarship. He's a National Merit scholar. And I'm
just kind of looking back and after it all, it was,
you know, it's a lot of hard days and all,
but I just wouldn't trade it for anything. I was
just heading it up, like over twenty thousand hours that
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he had not sitting in a classroom, and you know,
everybody has to make their own choices. But I mean
he was able to pursue his passions. I mean, he
loves the crochet. He got the best of show at
the Williamson County Fair because of his crochet. He runs,
he ran a marathon, he's had time. He actually thankfully
we were able to partner up with the public school system.
He ran cross country and trapped, so he had that
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full experience. It's been really the best of everything. Just
wouldn't have traded it completely.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Thank you, Heather.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Look, we did this for like a lot of parents
had to when schools shut down. We went down to
Florida for the month of May. My wife was teaching
the kids at home. I thought it was fabulous, and
somebody reached out and said, hey, this allows you to
be able to travel and experience things during the day
in a way you can't. Jimmy and Boca ratone's been
waiting a while. You're also at George Washington University grad.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Yes, hello, guys, Dettos and fifty years ago I went
to George Washington University. And a year ago when they
put the Kifa on the statue of George Washington, right
in the middle of a quad, I pulled up all
my college friends and I said to them, which one
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of you guys would have been holding the ladder? As
I climbed up to the top of the statue of
George Washington and tried to remove the KIFA.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay, well that's a funny idea. Sorry, the show is
ending for the day. We'll talk to you, see you
guys Tuesday. Clay's Got You Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Clee Travis and Buck Sexton on the front line of truth.
Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, Thursday edition. I bet
that some of you are starting maybe they put one
foot out the door. Memorial Day weekend starts in earnest.
Maybe for some of you already might be tipping back
a few drinks. I just went downstairs and the Travis
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boys have all finished school.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
For the year.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I understand some of you are like what, We
start early down a year in August a lot of times,
especially for football season. But so my kids are all
done so for the next two and a half months.
If you hear screaming in the background in my house,
it's probably kids fighting over video game controllers because they
are home for the summer. I promise that they are fine.
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But I asked you this off Airbuck, and I tweeted
about it here. As we get into the third hour,
is there any adult joy that is as pure as
the joy of a kid getting out of school for
the entire summer? Like every person who is out there
listening to me right now, just thinking about how joyful
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that made you when you were a kid, is experiencing
that from a nostalgic perspective. There are significant life moments
as adults, kids, marriages, buying a home, all of these
different things that are great. Maybe for some of you, retirement.
I don't know what it feels like to walk out
of a job and be like, I'm never doing that again.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm done.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Maybe there is an adult experience retirement style. But I
can't remember anything that is just more freeing than being
the kid walking out of school. Hey, that year is over, buddy,
nothing else to worry about, the big long stretch of summer.
Can you think of anything as an adult that is
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the equivalent of that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
No, And it's I think the first thing, the first
time as a kid you experienced overwhelming joy, with the
possible exception of like the perfect Christmas Morning, which I
think is also perhaps you know, a very very nice
moment for a lot of for a lot of kids.
But you know, it reminds me. I don't know our
school system, the way that we have it all set up.
(02:18):
I have pretty radical ideas on this. Maybe this isn't
the right forum for it, but I think the whole
I think kids are in school for far too long.
I think that school days is basically glorified childcare for
most people.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think people.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Should spend more time with their families. I think that
education has been made more democratized online than ever before.
And I'm not saying no. Obviously was a big, a
big proponent of in person learning during COVID everything. I'm
not saying get rid of school. I'm just saying, I mean,
I look, I just remember I remember being in school,
particularly high school. But being in school it felt like
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all the time, and always being tired all the time.
I think, I think all the time. Yeah, and that's
not good. That's actually not the way you should go
through life. We wouldn't we wouldn't accept that as adults,
and people are saying, well, a little bit is it's
like no, like getting getting up early in the morning
to practice for sports teams, or finishing sports games at
nine o'clock at night, and then having two hours of
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homework or three hours of homework. I mean, I went
to a pretty intense place for high school, but this
is not the way it should be. And I anyway,
I know I'm a little bit of a Schools are
a little bit more like prison than we wanted than
we want to admit.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's a little and I didn't expect to a school
now to turn into their prisons. Well I feel a
little bit like like you're the guy in the Shawshank
Redemption when he gets out of prison finally on that
last day of school.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Should it feel like that or should it be, Oh,
I'm gonna miss everybody around me. I never missed everybody.
I was like, get me out of here. Well, so
I loved school.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But I will say that my eyes opened a bit
on the homeschooling thing when I talked to a lot
of homeschooling parents and they say, hey, you know, we
can get through the entire lesson in two or three outs,
and then the kids are able to experience other things.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, Now the challenge is what do your kids do
with all that extra time? Because my kids would play
video games and like, so I think how that time
is used.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Every kid is different.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But I have, in all honesty, I feel incredibly fortunate
as a parent. All of my kids will go public
school K to six. So in our neighborhood, we have
a fabulous school in our community. I feel like we've
gotten amazing teachers. I feel really fortunate they are kindergarten
to sixth grade. Even during COVID, it was obviously retrospect.
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They should have never shut down schools to finish that year.
But my kids are back in school in August of
twenty twenty full go all those things. And the seventh
through twelfth grade school that my boys go to is
also fabulous. So I feel like they're getting good options.
But I know a lot of people shoul really feel
that way. And someone I really like on that you
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guys have heard me tweet. I don't know if he
if he'd come on, if we're really his his speed,
but I've always I like this guy at a Silicon
Valley naval rabacon who's proached. You know, he's become a
he's one of the pro Trump Silicon Valley guys. Now
you know he's like the all in guys. He's just
really really smart, uh and has a lot of brilliant
things to say on a whole range of issues.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You've seen him, he's he's appeared on a lot of
the big podcasts. And he's a guy Clay who, like you,
effectively unlimited resources for his children and he he does
homeschooling and like tries to maximize their freedom as long
as they have the like they do the lesson planning
or whatever it is they have to do. So he
takes a very uh and he went to an elite
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high school in New York and everything. And you know,
he's one of these guys, right who he did all
the all the bells and whistles stuff in the education
world himself. And now he's just like, I don't think
that this really really needs to be done. Here's some
interesting stuff. When you actually look at this, you find
out that because people say, well what about you know,
look at the American educational system, it wasn't really until
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we were largely herded into factories and offices that the
notion of a nine months of the year and nine
to five essentially, I maybe even nine to three in
most schools school day was the norm the school.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I just just googled this for fun.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I mean, I knew that this was roughly the case
that all throughout the nineteenth century. I understand different times everything,
but pre industrial America, yes, people had helped their families
in the farms, et cetera. But students went to school
about seventy eight days a year. Now, just think about
this for a second. Someone like Abraham Lincoln would have grow.
You know, you say Abraham Lincoln went to school, someone
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like Abraham Lincoln or his era, they would have gone
to school for two or three you know, the equivalent
of like three months something like that, like that, and
you're able to learn a lot in those three months.
My point is that so much of school is wasted
because so much of school is just to have adults
who are paid to watch children so they don't, you know,
stab themselves in the eye with a pencil or like
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run out in front of a train or something. It's
really not about kids can't learn for eight hours a day?
Am I too radical and crazy on this? Kids cannot
learn for.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Eight hours, Clay, You and I can't learn for eight hours.
I finished the show.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
My wife tries to talk to me, and she's like,
feel like a mummy for an hour. I'm like yeah,
because I've just put her all out there for three hours.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I think. So here's by the way, there's Supreme Court
decision today in schooling that came down tied four to four.
So Oklahoma does not have the right to have charter
religious schools. And that's a simplification. Amy Cony Barrett recused herself.
So the Oklahoma Supreme Court decision stands because there was
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not a majority in the court.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Here's what I believe. Am I totally nuts?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Like like, well, so here's my concern about much of schooling.
It is that we have stopped, to a large extent
experimenting with Now children are taught and we are just
throwing money at it, and a lot of kids are
being failed by the process.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, that's because it's a jobs program. It's not about
the kids, and it's about the teachers' unions getting their
perks and their bennies and not actually about you know,
stuff going for the kids the best way that it can.
Now again, I feel because I was a public school
kid K through twelve my seven to twelfth grade, I
felt like I couldn't have gotten a better education my
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kids K to six and seven twelve, I think because
we have the resources, but public school K to six
has been fabulous for them, and then our seven to
twelfth grade is great too. I do what again, when
I looked at the homeschooling concepts, one of the things
that I think we do a really poor job of.
And this is me getting on my soapbox now as
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a parent with three kids in school. Much of what
our kids are taught they will never actually use in
their real life. Oh man, I could go, I go.
This gives me really fired up. For instance, I grew
I thought I went to a great school. I graduated.
Nobody ever sat down and talked to me about how
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mortgages work, or about what carriers and finance should be
something that everybody learns high school age.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Very basic stuff. You know, balance a checkbook is old school.
But just talking about life skills, I understand some of
you have gone on and my father in law as
an engineer, at no point in life have I ever
needed to find the hypot news of a triangle or
apply to pethic thagarean theorem.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And I understand you're like, well, you're really just teaching
your brain how to think. I think there are other
things I could have taught my brain how to think that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Would have been more useful in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And so I feel like we really would benefit from
basic economic training, from basic probability and statistics being embedded
in school learning, and that many of the things that
are a part of our regular curriculum are to a
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large extent useless and that doesn't mean that if you
are intrigued by something that you shouldn't be able to
pursue it, because the reality is, Look, I majored in
history undergrad I'm never going to stop reading history books.
And if you told me tomorrow, hey, you are basically
finite in the education that you have received. I want
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to learn something new every day and I want to
remain intellectually curious, and those are important assets to have.
But I feel like a dogmatic training schedule where you
teach a lot of kids things they don't need, it
doesn't make sense. And by the way, for shop too,
Like I was reading a great story and more power
to it. I think it's Philadelphia where they're teaching kids
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how to weld.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
If you know you're not going to go to.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
College, these kids are getting higher. I think it's a
front page Wall Street journal. I read seventy five thousand
dollars a year, and they're being trained how to weld
in school and they come out and they're getting recruited.
I mean, that's fabulous, Like, why don't we have more
things like this?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
If people think that DOGE found a lot of waste,
fraud and abuse in the federal government. If you actually
looked at the realities of public education in this country
and is what is foisted upon people and what we're
paying for, especially with your property taxes and everything else.
It's a car It's just a giant cartel, and it
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really is set up. It was never set up for
the benefit of children. It was set up to be
a babysitting program so that adults could go to their
offices or their factories and labor. And that is the
whole that is the whole point of it. Just like
in the Soviet Union, by the way, I mean, this
is what they actually wanted. Ever, this is going back
to the industry revolution the early nineteen hundreds, and that's
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when all of a sudden you have people going to
school for most of the year, five days a week.
You know, Notice how it aligns with what a adults
need for their work schedules. I'm just saying, Clay, I mean,
just to take this really simply. Uh, do you think
you could have learned? I know you you enjoyed. Look,
I had a good grammar school experience. I thought my
high school was a little too intense and a little
too nerdy. I mean, I'm not I'm not particularly fond
(12:13):
of the place. But do you think you could have
learned the same amount of stuff with half of the
classroom instruction? But I'm certain that I could have. I
went to law school. I think you're talking about young
young forget about it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, No, but I think I think it extends into
grad school, perhaps even more. I had to go to
law school for three years to take the bar exam.
I think if you had told me you have six
months as you used to have to study to take
you used to just be able to pass the bar
exam and not have to go to law school, and
you could be like back in the day Andrew Jackson.
You apprenticed and you got to look at the books
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and you got to memorize all the stuff. I think
if you had told me you have six months to
study aggressively all of the law and then you will
take bar exam, I think I could have passed the
bar exam with six months of preparation. Instead, they made
me and look. I loved Vanderbilt Law School. I met
my wife there, some of my best friends are there.
(13:11):
It was an incredible three year experience. But it basically
is a barrier to being able to become a lawyer,
because you have to spend whatever it is, a quarter
million dollars now to go to law school to then
be able to have the right to take the bar exam.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think I want.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
This is blocking out achievement. Think thinking a little bit
outside of the box of this. You know, Clay, you're
a very sociable guy, and a lot of grad school
based on and I remember I went into getting it.
I went into media instead of grad school. So I
looked at this decision and it was just because I
didn't want to rack up all the debt and I
always wanted to work in media, and it kind of
just fell on my lap. Thank you, Glenn. But you
know you would have made connect It's it's to make
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connections and as social proof essentially for a lot of people.
And you know you would have made connections and found
your social proof otherwise, you know, without spending.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But you know we need to me Laura, I'm not
saying that, but you don't what I'm saying Like.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm just I am sympathetic for people who could be
So one of the things I again nerd out on
is to me, the job of any government should be
to allow the largest number of people to have the
greatest possible success based on individual liberty to pursue whatever
their talent is. I think around a lot of time now, buck,
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how many kids out there don't maximize their ability because
of barriers that are put in place that are not
particularly beneficial. In other words, they're the most brilliant lawyer
in America might not be able to have the money
to go to law school. And that doesn't seem right
to me. I'm a long term gold guy. Let's talk
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about this for a second, shall we.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
If you see what gold has done, you could pull
it up on a chart, for example, and you can
see that for the last oh, I don't know, choose
a number of decades. Gold, if you're a long term holder,
has been a sound investment. I believe in gold, and
we just had Ran Paul on today and he's telling
you the truth, which we're not actually tackling the debt.
We're making the debt worse. We're going to be crowding
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out private sector investment. I'm sorry to say this is
not going to change anytime soon and probably ever in
our lifetime, which means that dollars are going to be
decreasing in value. There will be inflation, and you can
do something about that now. This is where gold comes
in as a hedge against that inflation and the economic
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All right, welcome back to play and Buck take a
call here real quick. Jana in Tampa, you're up. Hello,
Hello Johanna and Tampa. Yes, hey, you got about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I just wanted to say that my family chose homeschooling
when my kids were at young ages, and we never
looked back. We had the option to do a lot
of different schools, and we started out in a private school,
and at second grade, I said, you know what I
can do this. I can give my family the character
training that I want them to have. I can teach
from American history from the right perspective. I can go
as faster as slow as we want to in every class,
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do as many sports as we want to. And we
were involved in so many activities. We traveled. It was amazing, awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean, I'm very interested for my little boy. I
can tell you that, Look, my friends, there's a sovereign
wealth fund that a lot of countries have, right could
one be coming our way. There are some smart people
who think it could be happening here with as much
as one hundred and fifty trillion dollars to build out
this fund. It's an asset buried under American soil and
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could be the basis for the creation of America's sovereign
wealth fund. Jim Rickards, former advisor of the White House
and Federal Reserve, says, if you're over fifty, this could
be your best chance to build lasting wealth from a
once in a century event. There may be smart investment
options that go along with this. It's worth you looking
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Flowing through the Thursday
edition of the program. We're joined now by the Bluegrass
State's own Daniel Cameron, running for the Senate seat to
be vacated by Mitch Mama Connell next year.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And first of all, I'll start with this.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We have not talked about it a great deal, but
I know the state of Kentucky, along with Missouri, was
slammed by tornadoes over the last several days and over
the last week. I'm sure that has been a major
part of what you have been seeing and talking about
in the state. How are people doing so far as
you can tell us, Daniel.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, Clay Buck, thank you guys for having us on.
Ye it's I mean heartbreaking to see the lives lost
in parts of our community, particularly in the summerset in London,
community Pulaski and Laurel County. It was obviously just completely
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heartbreaking to lose folks and the devastation that occurred.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We've been encouraging.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
People to help out the London Police Department. They're collecting goods.
I've also encouraged people to go to Samaritan's Purse and
American rep Cross.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
So there are a few.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Different outlets and obviously the communities local churches really vital
to helping rebuild and getting folks back on their feet.
But it's going to be a long process. In fact,
I'll be down there on Saturday to visit with some folks.
But yeah, thanks for bringing that up, because I know
folks all across the country have been praying for those
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communities in particular. You know, we had storms all across
the state that those communities in particular were hit really hard.
So thank you for bringing that up. And yeah, if
anybody wants to give too, I mean again, the Samaritans Purse,
American Red Cross, local churches down in those areas certainly
would be grateful.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I know it's early and the election is not until
next year. That is the Republican primary to set up
who's going to be running to replace Mitch McConnell on
that side. But what does the focus seem to be
to you so far as you travel the state of
Kentucky and hear from people about the issues they care
about the most.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, Clay, I mean, I think people want a senator
from Kentucky that is going to stand with President Trump
and help support an agenda that is about building back, building,
back up our mental class and the working men and
women of this country. President Trump campaigned on that. That's
what this big beautiful bill is about, is making sure
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that we can lower people's taxes so they have more
money in their pockets. This is an administration that is
about securing our border, fighting the drug academic It's about
creating energy independence in this country.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
In Kentucky, we are a commonwealth to the extent we
have a competitive advantage. It's about our fossil fields industry.
It's coal and natural gas. And having a president in
the White House that recognizes that in order to have
energy independence, we have to have in prioritize are fossil fuels.
That's a big deal. And so Kentuckians want a senator
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that's going to stand up for their values, fight for
the Trump agenda, and I'm going to do that and
I've got a track record of having done that as
Attorney General. You know there will be people that jump
into this race, but what you will never hear somebody
say is that there's going to be somebody that's more
conservative and more supportive of the Trump administration than Daniel Cameron,
because there's not going to be. I've shown it with
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my record, and I'm led by conviction. I mean, right now,
in my current day job, I'm fighting diversity, equity inclusion,
I'm fighting against ESG because these are convictions. These are
core convictions for me, and I want to take that
spirit and that energy to the United States Senate and
fight on behalf of Kentuckian's and that's why I'm going.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
To win come.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
You're right, we're about a little less than a year
away from the May primary. But I'm in a strong
position given all the polling right now. I think the
most recent poll have me up thirty points to my
next Clobe competitor. We're going to win this primary and
we're going to win the general as well, and I
want as many people to get on board as they
possibly can. I mean, I tell people all the time,
(23:09):
go to Cameron for Kentucky dot com check us out.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Certainly would be grateful for the help and support.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
When you ran against Andy Basheer in the governor's race.
It seems like Andy Basheer is going to try to
run for president of the United States in twenty twenty eight.
And I know you're running for the Senate. But when
you look around at the candidates that the Democrat Party
is putting forward. We talk a lot on this program
(23:36):
about how young men, black, white, Asian, Hispanic are breaking
away from the Democrat Party. And you know, I really say, men,
you know, younger than the age of forty five, for instance,
certainly eighteen to twenty four year olds is.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Off the charts. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And do you see that reflected when you travel around
in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Absolutely, I mean you know that, you know, men in
particular wants somebody that's not going to demean them, is
not going to belittle them, is not going to tell
them that they are the problem in every circumstance. And
President Trump spoke to men of all races. He spoke
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to men across this country in a way that candidly
Republican and Democrats just hadn't done. And I think men
have been gravit gravitating to the Republican Party because again,
they're tired of a Democratic party that tell that belittles
them and tells them again that they are the issue
to every problem in this country.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
President Trump has been strong in support of, frankly, people
of all walks of life. But the reason that men
of different races have been coming to the Republican Party
is because, again, this is a party that says, hey,
it's it's okay to be a man, it's okay to
be strong, it's okay to be a leader, and you
don't I have to apologize for that. And the Democrats,
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for whatever reason, have decided to double and triple down
on this ideology that tells you it's okay for men
to play in women's sports, that we somehow need to
be afraid of masculinity. Again, President Trump says, let's disregard that,
let's focus on men being leaders, working hard, providing for
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their families. And I hear that from people all across
Kentucky that are tired of a Democratic party that, you know,
candidly has tried to diminish the importance of men in
our society. And you know again, President Trump has recognized
that has looked for ways to make sure men know
that this is a party that supports them and is
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going to value them.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We're talking to Daniel Cameron, running for Senate in Kentucky.
I don't know if you've seen this news yet, but
you played college football at Louisville.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
There is news now.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
That the top twelve teams are going to make the
college football playoff in order they're going to be seeded
that way. That is just broken in the last fifteen
or twenty minutes. Do you expect if you go on
and I think you will become the next senator from Kentucky,
do you expect that your Louisville Cardinal will during your
(26:18):
first term in office make the college football Playoff? Would
that be an expectation in six years?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Clay On the first point, I did play football U
of L. But play is a very generous term.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I took people all the time.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I had a front row seat to the best team
in the house when I was sitting on the bench.
But hey man, look Hope springs Eternal. I believe in
coach Brohm. Look, I believe wholeheartedly that within the first
six years we're going to have a U OFL football
team that is playing in the playoffs and hopefully competing
(26:55):
ultimately for that national championship.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
That's my hope. Again.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
You know, Jeff coach brom was one of the quarterbacks
coaches when I was playing, and they just the Broms
have a heart for not only the university but for
the community. And I know that's on their heart to
push and to strive to get us in that national
championship game. So I'm hopeful that will happen. I'm hoping
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it'll happen on the earlier side of my term and not.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Towards the end.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
You know, our fans, our fans are like Tennessee fans.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
They're like all fans. They want success immediately.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
So let's make sure we get them there early as
opposed to the latter end of that first turn.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, So last question for you. We just had
the Kentucky Derby a couple of weeks ago. Buck and
I were up there last year. It was fabulous for pit. Now,
I know you're a Louisville guy, but one of the
coolest things obviously is the derby, but also Keenland is
pretty fabulous and a lot of UK people tell me
that the combo and I still haven't done it. The
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combo of Kentucky football and Keenland Race Day is one
of the best days for a sports fan anywhere, even
as a U U of L guy, even as a
Louisville guy, would you give them that nod and say,
Keenland plus UK Football Day is pretty tough to beat.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
That's a that's a hard That is a hard day
to beat, regardless of where you are in the country.
I mean that there's no better atmosphere than than spending
a little time at Keenland and then at the uh
you know for UK football.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Game as well.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
And I'll just say, you know, in that circumstance, not
only do you get to tailgate once, but you get
to tell gate twice because people tailgate before they go
into to Keenland and then you tailgate before you go
into the football game. Uh so yeah, I mean, I
I don't think you can you can argue with that position.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Uh look there, Look.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I'm I'm excited to be in a in a in
a commonwealth, in a state where we've got candidly like
two two roughly two programs right now that like are
really trying to get there together. I mean it makes
the whole state better. I mean, you know how rivalries work, man,
when when both teams are playing well or you know,
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trying to contend, whether it's in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Or the ACC. You know, that's a good thing for
our state.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
So I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm hopeful that you know,
next time you guys designed to come up for the combo, man,
you're gonna invite me to tag a lot with you.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We're going to try to do it this fall. I'm
looking forward to it. Daniel Cameron, where can people find
you if they're interested in following along with the Senate race?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Look again, I encourage your listeners to go to Cameron
for Kentucky dot com.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Join us, help us.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
If you want to give us some financial support, we'd
be grateful for that as well. But again, this is
for our kids and our grandkids. This is for making
sure we have a merit based opportunity to society as
opposed to what we've seen from the Dei bunch. This
is about restoring that American dream helping President Trump push
forward on his agendas for the American worker, for the
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men and women of this commonwealth and country. So I
hope you'll join us, come on and let's go win
this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Outstanding stuff. As always, we appreciate you and we will
talk to you again soon. Good luck on the campaign.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I appreciate your brother.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
God bless that's Daniel Cameron. You can check him out
as he just laid it out. And Buck is going
to be back here in a second. I'm gonna really
let him kind of pour his sorrows out as a
longtime New York Nick fan with the collapse that they
had in last night's game. But Oklahoma City is rolling
right now, Minnesota Timberwolves are in the mix. We got
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Speaker 2 (31:32):
Hi, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're closing up
shop for the day.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Make sure you check out the Clay and Buck podcast
network today and over this long holiday weekend, which reminds
me Clay's got you solo.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'm gonna be taking on little Man Judy as I
call him in the morning, mister James Speed and I.
We're gonna make sure Carrie can One thing I've realized,
Clay at this stage, got to make sure that your
wife or this case, my wife gets to be with
other adults sometimes and gets to get out of the
house sometimes.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Very valuable and important for young babies and mom health insanity.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yes, yeah, so I'm gonna be a.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I'm a mean, lean bottle feeding diaper changing machine at
this point, everybody, I'm I'm skilled in the arts of
dad baby stuff. At least I've gotten pretty good at this.
Let's take some calls and also some talkbacks. This GG
talkback Clay Richard in Louisville wants to call you out.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Hey, guys, this is Richard here from Louisville.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Just wanted to tell you I did need the Pythagorean theorem.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I'm a master electrician with Local three sixty nine, and
that's one of the exact formulas that we use in
the apprenticeship to figure out several different things. Never did
I think I would use it. I wish I understood
it better back then, and why I need it now?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Clay, you're getting called out for being a Pythagorean doubter.
But also he clearly was on like the electrician machine
room floor or whatever there. Yeah, he was, he was
working hard there giving us a call about it. I
have If there's kids getting out of school listening to
me right now, I know it's gonna fly in the
face of everything you've been told. Much of what you
(33:17):
use in geometry I have never used in my entire life.
And I've also never thought, boy, I really wish that
I knew geometry better now. I've wished that I understood
mortgage is better. I've wished that I understood, as we
were talking about off the air, how compound interest works.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I wish I knew how to read a ballot sheet better.
There are lots of things I wish I had been
taught that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
There should be a day in every high school across America,
in like eighth grade or ninth grade or whatever, where
they're just like, this is compound interest Day everybody, because
you think that saving some money from your summer job
or from your you know, from whatever, also bringing back
kids working.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
In their teen years. I hootored for money.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You know, you had jobs for money, like doing things
you make, you know, fifteen dollars hour, twenty dollars an hour.
That doesn't seem like to a lot of people now, like, oh,
I have to be an influencer on TikTok to make
any money. Well, actually, you can save money and build
up real wealth if you have a steady as she
goes approach to things and understand compound interest. So Heather,
and in Nashville, by the way, I bet she teaches
(34:17):
her boys in her homeschool program about compound it. Just
what's going on, Heather.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Okay, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Fantastic?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Great?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Yeah, just call him. I caught a little bit about
your homeschool and in just a few seconds, and I
just wanted to share with you.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
At home schools for four years.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
My daughter is a sophomore going to be a junior
at a private school in Nashville. She got a seventy
five percentship. My son just graduated saturday and he got
a full scholarship. He's a National Merit scholar. And I'm
just kind of looking back and after it all, it was,
you know, it's a lot of hard days and all,
but I just wouldn't trade it for anything. I was
just heading it up, like over twenty thousand hours that
(34:58):
he had not sitting in a classroom, and you know,
everybody has to make their own choices. But I mean
he was able to pursue his passions. I mean, he
loves the crochet. He got the best of show at
the Williamson County Fair because of his crochet. He runs,
he ran a marathon, he's had time. He actually thankfully
we were able to partner up with the public school system.
He ran cross country and trapped, so he had that
(35:19):
full experience. It's been really the best of everything. Just
wouldn't have traded it completely.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Thank you, Heather.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Look, we did this for like a lot of parents
had to when schools shut down. We went down to
Florida for the month of May. My wife was teaching
the kids at home. I thought it was fabulous, and
somebody reached out and said, hey, this allows you to
be able to travel and experience things during the day
in a way you can't. Jimmy and Boca ratone's been
waiting a while. You're also at George Washington University grad.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Yes, hello, guys, Dettos and fifty years ago I went
to George Washington University. And a year ago when they
put the Kifa on the statue of George Washington, right
in the middle of a quad, I pulled up all
my college friends and I said to them, which one
(36:11):
of you guys would have been holding the ladder? As
I climbed up to the top of the statue of
George Washington and tried to remove the KIFA.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay, well that's a funny idea. Sorry, the show is
ending for the day. We'll talk to you, see you
guys Tuesday. Clay's Got You Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
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