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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talking about what's going on with our government, specifically what's
going on with the Senate. They advanced yesterday the White
House request to remove cut billions in funds for an
AID and public broadcast. This is what is known as
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a recisions packet. It cleared its it cleared the hurdle.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Last night.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
JD Vance, the Vice President, went in there to break
the tie once again. The White House wants the cancelation
of nine point four billion dollars in funding that had
previously been approved for spending. Well, too bad, that was
the old That was the old boss. Welcome to the
new boss. Here starting a clock on a process that
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gives lawmakers, what does this say here forty five days
to act. This will make permanent some of the cuts
from Doge Clay. Remember Doge had all these recommendations. These
are Doge recommendations, and we can get into some of
the specifics of this, but first I have to say
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it's funny to me because they the argument that NPR
and PBS viewer supporters have always made right. The Corporation
for Public Broadcasting is gonna have a one point one
billion dollars in cuts. So the argument has always been
twofold from them, or two sided, two faced we don't
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even need the money, but you can't take away the money,
which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but it actually does
expose what's going on here. On the one hand, do
they like free money from the government. Yes, are they
used to getting free money from the government, obviously, But
beyond that, I think it's there. There's this brand value
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that is unearned in my mind, or should be unearned
for PBS and NPR, where they get to be something
that is mainstream and neutral and government supported, like we
need this, like this is inherently a public good because
it's being funded. It's not left wing agitprop.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I think that should stop.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And it's so obvious that this should have stopped a
long time ago. Conservatives and Republicans have been demanding it
for a very long time, and it looks like.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's about to happen.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
So everybody should just finally accept that this absurdity which
is throwing money at some left wing news organizations, is
going to come to an end.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Yay Trump, Yeah, And look, I think all of this
is very basic.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
We compete with NPR.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
This show does on probably what hundreds of marketplaces nationwide.
I mean, NPR is widely distributed, as is this show,
and I think most of you would find it ridiculous
if the government gave us billions of dollars in support
and taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean wondering, you know, it's like, is it as
crazy ideas the government wants to give to the clan
Buck Show a few billion dollars. I'm not gonna yell
at them. I'm not gonna get mad at them over it.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
But it is interesting. Again, I think the marketplace should work,
and thanks to you guys, the marketplace this show is.
You know, got five hundred and fifty affiliates. Now we're
up two hundred affiliates since we took over this show
in June of twenty one, and that's a credit to
all of you. NPR meanwhile, has had diminished audience, and
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meanwhile the government is giving them money. Does that seem
fair to you, regardless of what your politics are. I
don't think the government should be giving our show money.
They certainly shououln't be giving one of our top competitors
money in PR. So I sent out a joking tweet
just now saying Democrats, based on their logic of if
we don't provide taxpayer support to INPR npbs, then those
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entities shouldn't exist. Well, if a media outlet can't exist
without government support, why should that media outlet exist when
it's competing in the larger marketplace in PR, in particular
with US.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Look, if they do better than us, if there.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Are more people who want to listen to their programming,
if there's more people who want to listen to what
I consider to be left wing banal drivel, that's your right,
and that's unfortunate my opinion. But we got to compete
with them, We got to do better. But you shouldn't
give them billions of dollars and US nothing. And so
I think it would be quite funny if Republicans introduced
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a bill to give billions of dollars in support to US,
to Glenn Beck, to Sean Hannity, to the Premiere Radio network,
Jesse Kelly, and meanwhile continue to argue, Hey, NPR is
fair and this is not in any way putting a
finger on the scale INPR. I flagged this buck because
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I do think it's significant to remember. Do you remember
this headline that came out in recent vintage? It is
this is what NPR's managing editor for News said on
the Hunter Biden story during the twenty twenty election, we
don't want to waste our time on stories that are
not really stories, and we don't want to waste the
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listeners and readers time on stories that are just pure distractions. Well, boy,
that's a big swing and a miss. But isn't it
awfully convenient that during an election cycle NPR decided they
weren't going to talk about a story at all, and
as a result, huge percentages of Democrat voters, I think
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still to this day, to a large extent, believe that
the Hunter Biden laptop story was entirely manufactured and was
made up. And the reality is that, of course, has
not been in any way justifiable. They put their finger
on the scale to impact the outcome of an election,
and your tax payer dollars went to help subsidize that occurring.
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That seems like an easy recision vote. These are things
that Elon Musk's Doge team recognized as expenditures that are unnecessary,
and I believe the Republican Party should be able to
deliver on this. We hear a lot about hey, we're
spending too much money, We're spending too much money. Well
this is Look is it a small amount relatively speaking, yes,
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But if it's unnecessary money, do you spend unnecessary money
in your family budget? Probably not so if you're wasteful
and your expenditures on a family level, certainly. There are
lots of these issues that I believe in the larger
marketplace we can address and help to help to remove.
So to me, this feels like an absolute no brainer.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, and I think it is finally going to happen.
And anytime that the government is cutting wasteful spending is
a good time. And so far as it sets a
precedent and it shows that it's possible. And now more
and more people know what a recisions package is. That
this is When was the last time you heard anyone
even talk about that? You'd have to credit doze at least,
(07:22):
I think with popularizing far beyond what.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It used to be the idea that you could.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Send something to the Congress that says, hey, can we not.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Spend this money?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
How about that let's be Have you ever heard of
a recisions package before in the Senate, before this happened,
I know you knew it was a concept, but you
heard the one that actually made it. I can't remember
the last one that made its way through. This would
be the first one that I can think of in
a very long time.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And again, the precedent that's being set here, I think
is just there should be an open marketplace in media.
The I mean, this seems very basic to me, and
it's something that I think every Republican, regardless of your background,
should be in favor of the government shouldn't subsidize some
forms of media. And I understand, by the way, in
nineteen seventy five, I understand why there might have been
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a need to subsidize PBS. Does anybody think there's not
enough content now?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Are there?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
I mean, I just have to be honest with you.
I don't remember there ever being more documentaries being made
with the streaming era that we're in right now. I
don't remember what you know, Look when nineteen eighty two,
when everybody might have had five stations and maybe there's
no other way for your kids to watch Sesame Street.
I can see an argument, Hey, this is helpful one.
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You got a couple of month old luck, I will
tell you out there for anybody with young kids or grandkids,
there has never been more child programming created on a
yearly basis right now than exist that is being made
right now. And just this s necessity of PBS. I
believes Sesame Street on Netflix now, I mean, what is PBS.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Even doing that?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
It would need to be subsidized by the American taxpayer,
to say nothing of NPR, which again we directly compete
with and I know a little bit about their business model.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Have you seen the Titan submersible Netflix documentary? There's a
few of these popping around now. But just as you
were saying, all the all these documentaries that have been made,
I think you would enjoy it, or I think it
would be an interesting watch for you. I watched it
with Carrie maybe a week or two ago, and the
one thing I'd say that I couldn't believe that they
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missed this part of it was they don't really tell
you or show you anything about the actual implosion. You
remember this, this is a crazy story. We were on
the air together when this happened back in June of
twenty twenty three. When this there was a guy who's
a billionaire and the guy running this organization, and the
billionaires saw it. I think one or two other people
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who were on this sub that went all the way
down to see the Titanic, and in this case it imploded.
But it's a particularly harrowing tail because on the way
this guy should have known what was going to happen here.
The documentary makes it clear, and I just I was
watching this thing and all I could think, Clay was
they paid I think two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
(10:23):
to get to get a seat on this submersible. I
wouldn't have taken a seat on the submersible if they
had paid me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No interest.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well maybe I have a little bit of claustrophobia or something,
but no interest whatsoever. This should be at the absolute
bottom of my list. I would jump out of planes
long before I would do something like that. There's all
kinds of stuff that I would sign up for before
going into a tiny, you know, different designed little submarine
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to go peek at the Titanic from a little window.
I just thought the whole thing was was kind of nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Oh, I remember when that happened, and I was glad
I didn't get invited to do it, because I think
I would have been like, oh, that sounds kind of cool,
and and now I might be dead. So I'm trying
to say no to all ridiculous things. I don't want
to jump out of an airplane. I don't want to
go to space. I don't want to go on a submarine.
I don't even really want to go on a cruise ship.
So I'm pretty good just being on land and uh
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and hopefully uh yeah. Like this whole uh, this whole
process I think is interesting. By the way, speaking of
of the you know, sort of interesting tourist moves, we
should talk about this because you've got the young kid
now too, and it kind of ties in with the
PBS and the television program and everything else. Did you
see all the people screaming at jd Vance's kids at Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I did not.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Oh, oh, I'm pretty fired up about this. I had
not seen it. I went on Sean Hannity last night,
and Sean played all the videos. I knew that jd
Vance had taken his kids to amusement parks, as every
dad and mom basically on the planet will do at
some point, maybe even including Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
One day. I cannot wait.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
So you have to go stand in like ninety five
degree heat to get on a roller coaster for your vacation.
I can't wait for Angry Buck coming back from the
kids kids amusement parks. But are we really setting the
standard of if you don't like someone politically and they
go to a freakin amusement park.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I almost cursed there.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I gotta be careful with their three year old, that
you're gonna scream at them. I mean, this is like dastardly,
truly evil to me. Things that you would be yelling
at young kids whose parents have busy jobs like everybody
else and all the people out there, and they're deciding
to spend time with their kids and they're getting on
i don't know, like the Peter panride, and you're screaming
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at them because you disagree with their politics. Like this is,
I really think, psychologically broken evil stuff you can disagree
with Jade Vance, maybe screaming at his three year old
at Disneyland is a bridge too far, I would think
from most rational adults, but not for a lot of
leftists who decided to do this when they toured Disneyland.
I watched these videos and I was kind of in disbelief,
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even for knowing people are crazy once again being a.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Mannerless, godless leftist malcontent.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's not a good way to live your life, you know.
It's just we're just.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Just here to tell everybody it's better to be on
the other side, be on our side of this stuff.
You don't want to be one of them, one of
these evil comedies, bitter about everything, yells at children, it's
not good.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Good and even look, if you're out there right now
and you're thinking, oh, I really disagree with who's the
worst AOC doesn't have kids yet, who's the worst parent
on the Democrat side? In terms of someone you would
disagree with, whoever that person is. If you see them
at Universal Studios or Disney World or something and they're
with their three year old, there's plenty of ways you
can oppose their politics. I don't think yelling at them
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at an amusement park is going to advance your cause.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It actually just makes you the jerk.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And so regardless of your politics, let people take their
kids places and leave them alone.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know, Frederico Wilson is a member of Congress. She's
my member of Congress, actually covers my I thought it
was Salazar. I looked this up. It's Frederica Wilson. We're
on a plane together. We sat next to each other.
She has no idea who I am, but I would
never bother her. She's the She famously wears a cowboy
hat or a lot of the time. I'm not gonna
bother her, just sitting on her plane going home to
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her family. It's not the time, you know, excuse me, congresswoman,
or you know, people are people are nuts.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So yeah, no, don't do that. No, you don't do that,
all right.
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Com appreciate everybody rolling with us. You know what I
kind of love is when people have great opinions on
the talkbacks. And I thought I would hit a couple
of these here because I gotta say just really impressive
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takes here.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Let me make sure that I get it lined up correctly.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
There were two in particular that I thought were completely
from an unbiased perspective, absolutely brilliant. Here's Darren in Florida
ninety two five. He's just a really smart guy. Let's
listen to what he has to say.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
BB. This is Darren and Malabel, Florida.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
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Speaker 2 (16:02):
Anyways.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The Butler Pennsylvania National Monument is a fantastic idea. I
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a little bit to say that keep doing a great job, guys.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Thank you, and I feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know when Clay's like, I have a big idea,
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It's more fun when I can bring out the wampwomp button.
But Clay, the Butler Pennsylvania thing is a good idea
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Speaker 5 (16:30):
National Monument. I also think Moses in Montana. This guy
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Speaker 2 (16:37):
Moses from Montana.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I want to nominate Clay automatically for a Broadcaster of
the Year a Marconi Award for his immediate yank of
Rosie the Jetsons made.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That was awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
I was impressive Marconi for knowing the Jetson's made. I mean,
I think that's very valid. Everybody gets Marconi's these days.
I mean, it seems like my Jetson's knowledge should definitely qualify.
We'll have some fun, by the way, when we come
back to because a lot of people reacting to that
amusement park thing. And also I can't stop laughing thinking
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about you being for the next decade just sweating like
crazy at amusement parks with your kids.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If there is a hell for me, it's standing in
a hot day in a crowded place in line to
go do a thing with my kids who are being fussy,
that is, I think hell, I think you know that
would be sufficient punishment for whatever ill deeds I could
even I could concerns.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Headed for you.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
You hate amusement parks when it's ninety five degrees and
it's a three hour line. I cannot wait to hear
buck coming back from this thing. A lot of you,
by the way, dealing with that right now as we're
in the vacation season.
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Speaker 1 (18:42):
So we were just talking a second ago about what
happened when Jade Vance went with his family to disney Land,
and for a second, I didn't hear the land part.
I just thought, think of Disney. I was like, there's
no way that a random crowd would be booing jd
Vance in my great state of Florida. That's't that wouldn't happen.
The Florida Sun would immediately melt them if they tried
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such a thing. We don't allow that kind of nonsense
in this great state of Florida. But in California, Cammifornia, unfortunately,
this stuff, this stuff is able to fly. And some
of you are particularly fired up about this, so we'll
get to yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I just think this is something that connects with a
lot of parents out there. I mean the I I
think you have to be I'm just gonna be honest,
a really awful person to see someone with their young kids.
I mean we're talking about I think his kids are
like three and five ballpark, and even younger, like a
one year.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Old or something.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
To see somebody with several young kids at disney Land.
I do agree with you that they probably should have
gone to Disney World. I think the people there are
likely to have been more hospitable to them than the
people in Disneyland politically. But you shouldn't do this anywhere,
right I mean, look, I think that Hunter Biden is
a awful drug addicted, whying, conniving. I could put a
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lot of bad ages in front of him. He has
a young kid. If you saw him in line for
I don't know mister Toad's wild Ride and you started
yelling at him when he was there with his three year.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Old, I think you would be the jerk.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's indefensible, And I disagree with I think the guy
has been awful right Like, by the way, there's no
the same thing, there's no excuse.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
For people will try to sell, they'll try to justify.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I left this, were justifying this for a while in
the first Trump administration when remember remember Senator Ted Cruz
had maniacs surround him in a restaurant in DC, and
I think the restaurant, actually, to it's to its enduring credit,
was like embarrassed, told the told the protesters to leave,
invited center cruise back and said you know, we don't
want any of that nonsense here.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I think that's how it went down.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
But also Sarah Huckabee was harassed at a restaurant and
that restaurant actually was backing the protester. So this was
a thing they were doing, and they kept acting the left,
you know, the activist the MSNBC crowd kept saying, Oh,
we have to get up in people's faces and have
our voices be heard. Like never in human history has
it been easier to tell a public official what you
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think or to have your voice be heard. If you're
shouting at somebody in public, generally it's because you're trying
to intimidate or embarrass them. It has nothing to do
with having your concerns heard. And if you're doing it
in front of someone's kids or their family, you're a jerk.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
You're a jerk.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I think it's very very straightforward the on the good
news side of things when it comes to immigration, Stephen Miller,
he is. You know, if if the open Border's crowd
was choosing the form of their destructor, I think that
I think it would be Stephen Miller who is the
destructor of open borders and the madness here he is
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standing up for ICE officers and pointing out that day
in and day out with the enforcement operations that these
officers are doing in communities where there are a lot
of illegals and a lot of legal criminals.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean, I know that's that's sort of a weird
way to say it, but illegal status and they're committing crimes. Right,
So people who are doing bad things and they're never
supposed to be weren't supposed to be here in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Here's Stephen Miller play for.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
The rhetoric from Governor Newsom, the rhetoric from Karen Bass,
the rhetoric from Democrat leaders in Washington is directly encouraging
and incentivizing murderous migrant mobs to.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Attack ICE officers.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
When they describe ICE officers these heroes as some kind
of fascist force, some kind of a Gestapo force, they
are using the language that is meant to justify violence.
ICE officers are literally, in real time, liberating American communities,
once peaceful, once idyllic American communities from an invasion force.
I cannot imagine a nobler and more righteous activity for
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any American to do than to go into these communities
face off against hostile mobs and literally free them from
the forces of destruction and violence.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He's the best man, just just always on it, never
backs down, an inch knows the mission, totally dedicated to it.
Tom Homan and Steven Miller a are dynamic duo sitting
atop a core mission of this Trump administration.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Totally and you mentioned yesterday. I think we had this
conversation and Stephen has said it on the show. Stephen
Miller sees what happened to California, where he was born
and raised, and he is terrified that it's going to
happen to the whole nation, and he is going to
do everything in his power to try to keep that
from continuing to occur. And I think one of the
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big differences between Trump one point zero and Trump two
point oh, and we've talked about this a lot, is
the quality of advisors and the people who can get
things done that Trump has surrounding him.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
I think Trump would say, and he has said on
this program before Trump one point zero, he didn't really
they know what he was getting into. He wasn't a politician,
He didn't understand the opposition that he was going to
face in Washington, d C to his agenda. You can
look at the first six months. There have been very
very few policy based errors that this administration has had
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in the first six months of this tenure compared to
the first six months of the last tenure. And I
think it's important for us to keep echoing and keep
reinforcing and for many of you out there to recognize
the border is shut down. I saw that the fewest
border encounters number just came out yesterday, Buck, I think
since two thousand and three. So it's not only that
people aren't getting across, it's that a lot of people
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have realized you're not going to get across, and so
they're not even trying to come anymore. Fewest in a
generation at the border. Crime. Again, I don't want to
jinx this, but murder rates all over the country are
collapsing as police are being enabled to do their jobs
and actually make us safe all across the nation. And
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all time record highs on stock prices and inflation, as
we talked about to start off the show today, came
in below expert expectations again, Economy, border crime. Trump is
delivering real consequential leadership that is impacting everybody now on
a day to day basis, and it is incredibly successful. Now,
(25:20):
are there still things that can be better? Yes, every
president and every administration can all be better always at
what they're doing. But this has become pretty phenomenal to
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So Buck, we'll have the show solo tomorrow. So anything
that you disagree with about today's show, you should just
deluge him and complain in earnest and I'm sure that
he will be very excited to play all of your
angry comments tomorrow when he has the show solo. I'll
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be back for Friday. I'm going to be traveling, but
lots of good MOMENTUSM. I appreciate all the work that
you guys are doing. We are over eighty one thousand
on the YouTube subscribers. I have talked about this. I
want to get these numbers up. Maybe in the near
future we may have the full show that you are
going to be able to watch on YouTube. That is
a goal that we are working towards on this program,
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and you should be able to track us down. Type
in Clay Travis, type in Buck Sexton on YouTube. Buck
has promised when we hit ninety thousand, Puppies and Babies,
which is an ultimately Puffy and Baby, which is come
on now, that's pretty exciting. So hit that YouTube subscribe
button for Clay and Buck. I want to get us
over one hundred thousand. So in all honesty, this is
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the way that many people, their kids and grandkids are
consuming content. I've mentioned it before. My boys seventeen, fourteen
and ten. All they do is TikTok and YouTube. It's
where they get all of their information. They don't watch
traditional television, they don't listen to traditional radio. You can
share some of the segments that we might have here
with your kids and they are more likely to watch
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them there and a lot. I mean, I'm not surprised
because I know this is a huge parent and grandparent audience.
But I do think that a lot of people, I mean,
you guys are deluging us with or at least I'm
seeing a lot of commentary about the way that Jade
Vance was treated. And I don't think have we played
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Mike in New Jersey? This is hh he's a woor listener.
Let's listen to that.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
In reference to jd Vance's kids getting screamed at at Disneyland,
do you really expect people that jumped up and down
for joy at the desk of all the red state
white kids that drowned in Texas as they say it,
you want to do anything nice to anybody else's kids.
These people are dark, soulless creatures and don't deserve to
even be acknowledged in my opinion.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
You know, it's interesting because a lot of the stuff
that we see online I don't treat as the real
world because people say things I thought you said it
well buck about on this program. There's nothing that we
would say, and I think this has been true with
four years, that we would say on this program that
we wouldn't say face to face with someone. Now, it
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doesn't mean that you're gonna run up and be like,
I think that you're But there's nothing that I would
shrink from saying that I've said on radio. Ever, if
somebody came to me and they said, hey, you talked
about me, I would say, yeah, I said that. I
think a lot of people say online things that they
would never say in person. But to translate it to Disneyland,
it doesn't surprise me that people would say online, Oh,
I hate jd Vance and his kids and his family
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and everything else online. To yell at the kids in
person is a next level. And I actually thought Fetterman
when it comes to the on line discourse and a
lot of the negativity associated, unfortunately with the flooding that
we saw, was entirely connected to online discourse. But I
thought Fetterman, who somehow is the only Democrat that ever
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makes sense. He went on an interview recently, I believe
this was a semaphore, and he just said, I never
get online. I never read anything that people say online.
I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Listen, people criticize you a lot online. Does that make
you spend less time there?
Speaker 8 (30:28):
I don't. Well, I assume that's happening, but I'm actually
not on I'm not on social media at all at all,
not at all.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You used to do your own tweets, and I produced.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
I produced the content and the tweets. But I don't
just check in and I do the kinds.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Of a thing.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's like, why would I.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
It's like, I'd rather just sign up and have someone
spend thirty minutes punching me in the faith. So you
know that it's out there and you know that it's
back and forth. But I try to remind people that
social media is the funhouse mirror of the distortion of reality.
And wherever I go in public, people are lovely and
they're verally actually kind and very supportive and hey, can
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we have a picture and shake your hand kind of
a thing. So I would just remind anybody the world
that you see on those social media is just not
the reality. And imagine that through the lens of a
thirteen year old child that has access to the same
kinds of tools as an adult.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
I think we're going to see increasingly, unfortunately, I think
we're going to see social media and the fact that
we allowed young kids to be exposed to it as
a deleterious health related impact compare comparative to smoking.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
In some ways.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
And I think you're starting to see this already, where
schools are saying, wait a minute, we're not going to
allow kids to have phones in class. And I think
you're seeing a lot of parents say, hey, I'm not
going to give my kids phones until fourteen, fifteen years old.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's the right call.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I'm going to try to keep my kids offline as
long as I can. The bigger the tech execs are,
the more frequently do this, and Buck, you're going to
be making these decisions, you know, with your son in
the years ahead. And it's one thing that I think
my wife and I got right that we didn't give
our kids cell phones until fourteen. Now they let us
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have it because they were like, we're the only kids
in school that don't have cell phones. Dad, How in
the world can you and mom not let us have
cell phones? How can you keep us off social media?
I think increasingly more and more parents are going to
be making this decision. I think John Fetterman's right, the
difference between online behavior and public behavior is seismic, and
I think more and more people are recognizing it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yes, I think that it's amazing when I find that
there aren't bands on cell phones and all classrooms across
the country that that's still a thing that people are
pushing for. I would have just assumed that that was
already the case, that you were never allowed to take
your cell phone out in a classroom environment as a
kid in grammar school, high school. It must be enormously distracting.
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And I do think also one of the problems that
you see just all throughout society.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Is that people say things.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Everyone knows is you say things online you wouldn't say
to somebody in person. And it's very easy when you're
just writing things at someone's avatar to forget that there's
a human being on the other side of that. I mean, look,
i'll tell you someone, I get a fair amount of
nasty things sent to me, just like you do too.
You sometimes retweet them, which is pretty funny, but I
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generally try.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
To just you know, delete or whatever. I don't spend
much time with it.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
When I did the Bill Mahers Show, and we got
a lot of heat that time, someone wrote something that
was so ornate in its like bizarre, demented, and like
vile hatred that I actually did a little digging and
I figured out where this guy work.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Oh Cia you don't want a measure with the CIA guy.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
And I figured out who he was, you know, he
wrote behind some you know, some fake email account. But
I was able to figure out who he was, what
his name was, and I.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Was so close.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I was like should I should I just like forward
this to his employer? I mean, is that And I didn't.
I want to be clear, I didn't. But this guy,
if you didn't, seem like he was very married, kids,
worked for like a healthcare company and wrote the kind
of stuff that if you if you like, completely insane.
I think people hide demons internally, that they let run
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completely wild online and that there's almost a split personality
that some people have where they will you know, they're
they're putting one face out to the world, and then
the moment they have an internet connection and anonymity, they
turn into some kind of digital gremlin.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Uh. And it's it's common.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think it's like it should be classified as a
mental illness, is what I'm getting at, Like this is
a real problem that's out there.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
The thing that staggers me about this, and I see
it all the time is the number of times that
p people have either kids in their profile picture or
Bible versus in their profile picture.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Who right in the horrific thing like just awful awful.
I was like, do you literally have a like?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I shared one of these recently, a DM that I got,
and it was like, you legitimately have a Bible verse
as part of your profile and then you just sent
this to a stranger. I mean, I tend to be
somewhat amused by it because it's so absurdly ridiculous, but
it's also become quite normalized, and I think what people
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have recognized is what you said, that it's not the
real world, or at least people behave differently in the
real world than they do online. We appreciate all of you.
All of your complaints go to Buck. By the way,
it turns out that I've been mispronouncing the word banal.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's actually banal. I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
This is a problem you have when you have an
incredible vocabulary. Sometimes you know more words than you know
how to pronounce them. But I bet there's other people
who have been making that air thing. Thank you to
the pronuntion police for saving me for myself. As many
of you like to do.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Blake got pulled over by the pronunciation police. So that's
why he's taking tomorrow off just to punish himself. He's
giving himself a time out because of the pronunciation. Police
very scared.