September 17, 2024 • 36 mins
Kamala has nonsensical answers to easy questions and a completely vacuous campaign, but it doesn't matter to Democrat voters. Trump urges early voting in PA, GOP ballot requests way ahead of Dems vs. 2020. Dr. Marty Makary talks to Clay and Buck about his new book: “Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong, and What It Means for Our Health.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Third hour kicks
off now, and I feel compelled to play to bring
something into the discussion here that got left on the
cutting room floor yesterday because we obviously had an attempted
assassination of President Trump. On Sunday, Kamala Harris did an interview.
(00:24):
You see this, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, I told you about it on Friday, when
on Friday evening, it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Was Friday evening, and so we haven't had a chance
to go over some of this. But if you're wondering,
this is all related what we talked about in the
first hour. The immediate shift in the conversation from yeah, yeah,
some guy set up with a rifle with a scope
on it where Trump was going to be and maybe
was trying to assassinate him. But you know, it's Trump's
rhetoric that's causing this. And have you heard what he
(00:52):
said about the Haitian migrants, And they're just all in
on this. They don't care how gross it looks, they
don't care how obvious they're their propaganda may be. I
think one of the reasons for this is Kamala is
a horrible candidate. She is now, I know she was
able to memorize lines at the debate, and some people
were very impressed by that, But those were all prepared speeches.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's what that was.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was the equivalent of reading off of a prompter,
except she had to memorize it in advance. So give
her credit for that. She can memorize things. I'm sure
she'd be great in the school play whatever. Trump unfortunately
didn't really get her out of the prepared speeches. But fine,
put that, it doesn't matter. I think if you look
(01:36):
at it now, Trump kind of won that debate just
based on what's happened afterwards, what the polling has showed.
So there's that, and now we see why they're hiding
Kamala Harris from everybody, why they're going to these extreme
lengths normally for a presidential candidate. It's how do I
get as many people as possible to look at my face,
(02:00):
listen to my words? How do I enter the conversation
in every household in America as often as pob That's
really a big part of what modern elections have turned into.
It's a little bit like American idol. For Kamala Harris,
it's how do I get the media to tell everybody
to vote Democrat, vote Harris, and I don't have to
do anything, and you get a sensu as to why
here she is. I want you to listen closely. This
(02:24):
was on Friday. We didn't get a chance play this
for you because it came out after the show, and
yesterday we did all the post assassination attempt analysis. It's
on Friday. It's cut twenty six. Kama's big problem is
she's part of the vice president of a failed Biden administration,
and we haven't really gotten any sens as to how
is she going to be different than Biden. She tells
(02:45):
us she'll be better than Trump, But would she be
better than Biden? Or how would she be different or
anything like that. This is how she answers listen to this.
Wonder if there are one or two spots, policy areas
or approaches where you would say, I'm a different person.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Not Joe Biden, and you know, I offer a new
generation of leadership. And so, for example, thinking about developing
and creating an opportunity economy where it's about investing in
areas that really need a lot of work, and maybe
focusing on again the aspirations and the dreams, but also
(03:22):
just recognizing that at this moment in time, some of
the stuff we could take for granted years ago, we
can't take for granted anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Clay, what the heck does that mean? Does anybody know
what she just said? Some of the things we could
take for granted, we can't take for granted unburdened by
what has been a future that is the same but
different than the past. Like what is she saying?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I think it's so important to remember she's running
for a job basically that she already has, and she
can't tell anyone why she should have that job going forward.
The one that stood out to me, and look, this
was an awful interview's eleven minutes. Okay, she did an
eleven minute interview with a local Philadelphia news reporter, and
(04:05):
I had them roll this over because Monday, I imagine
we would have talked about it a lot, but somebody
tried to kill Trump. But she has asked about what
does she want to do to bring down prices? We
have this cut twenty seven. Uh, She's asked directly, Okay,
prices are up. What is your plan in specific detail
(04:27):
to bring down prices? I think this is the number
one question that most voters have in America. It's cut
twenty seven. Listen to the gobblygook response that Kamala provides
when we talk about bringing down prices and making life.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
More affordable for people, one or two specific things you
have in mind for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That, Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a
middle class kid. My mother raised my sister and me.
She worked very hard. She was able to finally save
up enough money to buy our first house when I
was a teenager. I grew up in a community of
hardworking people, you know, construction workers and nurses and teachers.
(05:08):
And I tried to explain to some people who may
not have had the same experience. You know, if a
lot of people will relate to this, you know, I
grew up in a neighborhood of folks who are very
proud of their lawn.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay, buck Clay, she's a I'm trying not to curse.
She's a flippant moron. Okay has memorized answers that she
just distributes that don't even have anything to do with
the question.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
She's asked that this is the key for anyone who's
like Calmwood did well in the debate. She didn't debate,
She had prepared speeches that she gave. She ignored the
moderator's questions and knew the moderators wouldn't follow up, so
she was able to get away with it. But it
(05:53):
was essentially written, Okay, she was just blabbering on about
and this retreating too when I was a middle class kid.
Has nothing to do with anything. Nobody cares. But you
can tell she's going back like an actress who's trying
to remember line line, trying to remember where is she
in the monologue? Right, She's going back to what she
(06:14):
is prepared to say the same because when she doesn't
have something prepared, it's what we heard before, which was
just I mean, I don't say it's nonsense like I
disagree with it. I say it's nonsense as in, it
is nonsensic, cull, It does not hold together in any
logic or rational way. It's just words coming out of
her mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Can you imagine Buck being this bad at an eleven
minute interview. I mean, we do interviews all the time.
We're great, we have five hundred affiliates. We thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Please like we're great. Yeah, we are great.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're great to have fortunate to have so many we
are great. I mean, I'm not humble, but but we're
fortunate to have five hundred affiliates out there. All right,
So we get asked to do lots of interview you
got a book coming out next year. One morning, Ali
can tell me. I think I did like twenty five
consecutive radio station interviews, all about ten or eleven minutes each,
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no idea what questions were coming. You just sit there
and you answer questions. I can't imagine being this bad
at answering questions and having had the job a vice
president for three and a half years. Buck the questions
you're getting, how do you lower prices? A? I mean,
this is not rocket It's not like she got asked
(07:33):
who the president of Albania is right, it's not quiz bowl, right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But also, her campaign's first major economic policy that they
officially unveiled, yes, was price controls correct, which is I mean,
this is like month one econ one oh one high
school level, not even college level economics. Price controls are
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a failure. It will not work when you're talking about
groceries with one percent margins it is. I mean the
fact that people look at you. You really get to
the point now where you know, they voted for a
dementia patient who was clearly in declined, that didn't care,
and now they're going to be voting for somebody who
didn't win a primary, who they all thought was terrible
(08:19):
before and they don't care. You know, you start to think, like,
how different is it from just if they wrote generic
Democrat on the ballot and try to convince everybody just
just vote, just vote for the generic Democrat. We'll figure
out who the president's going to be after the election.
Let's just keep the seat warm for a Democrat. And
I think that that's effectively the campaign that you are
(08:40):
seeing rolled out right now. It's just what kind of
machinery do they have to bring to bear to get
enough people to vote not Trump and for a Democrat.
Kam Ohis has no vision, she has no understanding of
any of this stuff. She has been actually really a
tool of the machine and not even running the Democrat
machine her whole career.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, and this is why if you're Vladimir Putin, or
if you're Chairman Ze, or if you are Kim Jong un,
you're running Iran, You're the Ayatola, You're anybody involved in Hesbula,
the Palestinian authority, the Gaza universe. You want Kamala Harris
to win because she's a moron, and morons have no
(09:22):
confidence in their own vision and so are going to
follow whatever the sheep inside of the Secretary of State's
office or the deep State tell them to do. And
this is why Trump was such a wild card for
them and why many of them didn't like him, because
Trump understand whatever else you think about Trump, Trump understands
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leverage and negotiation, and he became a president who was
willing to put pressure through leverage and negotiation on foreign adversaries,
and they were afraid of what he might do. I've
never heard a good Democrat response buck for why, if
if Trump was such a stooge of Putin, why didn't
Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was president. I've never heard
(10:06):
anybody be able to explain that, if Trump was such
a week leader, why did Hesbola not attack? Sorry, why
did Hamas and Hezboa, which we're dealing with right now,
not attack Israel like they did on October seventh? While
Trump was in office, there isn't a good response, because
the answer is they feared Trump. They were afraid of
(10:28):
what he might do to them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My concern about a Kamma administration is that it doesn't
matter how inept and how lacking in capability and vision
she is, because as we've seen with Biden, I mean,
no one really thinks Biden is the president right now
in any meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right. We all get that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's not like Biden's calling together meetings of his staff
and saying, guys, we really got to push this policy.
And this has been the case for a long time.
I'm not just saying now in the final months of
his presidency. Biden hasn't been running the show for a while.
We've all talked about it. We've all known there are advisors,
heads of agencies, political operatives from the Democrat apparatus who
(11:14):
are making Clay all the key decisions, pushing forward all
the agenda items, setting the schedule for the executive branch,
right and Kamala would really be more of that, and
if anything, I think she'd be even more compliant, you know,
she'd be more willing to go with whatever the Democrat
apparatus says. You know, Joe Biden still, I think because
(11:35):
of vanity likes to hold on to the oh, I'm
like middle class Joe and riding that you chew to
work and all that stuff. I think Kamala Harris would
be exactly what we've seen along, which is she'll go
She is a rubber stamp for the most left wing
agenda imaginable from the Democrat Party. And if anyone says, well,
that's not fair, that's not true. Look at all the
things that she said so he believed in before she
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was trying to fool everybody to be president. The thing
that makes me so angry about this that I just
find it's insulting. It is truly insulting to the American people,
who are not just Democrat voters. Democrat voters they don't
care about anything else. Kamala Harris, her abandoning of her
previous positions will all be abandoned once again as she
(12:19):
takes office. So she's going to double back and go
to the far left stuff that she's currently telling everybody,
or rather having surrogates tell everybody in the media. She's
not really for that. Do I think Kamala a president
Kamala Harris Clay would give a speech where she says
that we should we should have a reparations committee to
really look at this nationally. Absolutely, I do do I
think Kamala Harris, taking big money from California environmental wackos,
(12:43):
would push the most radical executive order based climate agenda
pot Absolutely I do.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I would bet on it with anybody who would want
to bet against me. I think she would go far
left on all this stuff. And the whole premise of
her candidacy is lying to you about that, right, That's
everything is just a lie about. Oh, and I was
a middle class kid. She was like she had like
some big struggle. She was the daughter of two university professors.
Give me a break.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
She lived in the richest neighborhood in all of Canada.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They were, you know, working in the coal mines or
a steel mill or something. Like. Everybody was okay, like
plenty of money, like nice things to do.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, but they had really good lawns. Buck. That's the
important thing to know about the neighborhood that she grew
up in. She doesn't care at all about how to
reduce prices, but people really care about their lawns. And
she's a moron.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know, but I don't think it matters, is what
I'm saying to you. I don't think it matters, unfortunately,
because they're hiding her enough that not enough people will
see it. And for Democrats, by the way, I think
smart Democrats know that Kamala is dumb and they don't
care at all because she is the She's like the
puppet president. Right, it's whatever the you know, the the
(13:53):
axual rods and the you know, the well.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mean, this is the point. We have a president. Now.
Do you think Joe Biden's doing anything? I mean, someone
stop talking about it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But he's not the president in any meaningful way. And
there is nothing. There is no one who is running
around this White House like, oh, guys, guys, Biden's calling
a meeting on a policy initiative. You know about this,
Like what's going on here? Biden is taking nap number
three at the beach right now, and I mean number
three today. That's who is the president of the United States.
(14:23):
We can all see it. Look, I mean, and yet,
and yet, when I go back home for Thanksgiving to
New York City, Clay, I'll be in a place where
eight to one they're going to Votekamala over Trump based
on the registration at least eight to one registration advantage.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's because they picked the team and it doesn't matter
who the head of the team is, they're gonna support him.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Couple of
things out there. Donald Trump has tweeted early voting in Pennsylvania,
Go vote, make America great Again DGT. That was twenty
minutes ago, and there is data. We want to talk
about data, not just feelings. Pennsylvania mail in ballot requests
(16:20):
in twenty twenty, fifty days before the election, there were
seven hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrat requests for
mail in ballots than there were for Republicans. Fifty days
before this election, there is four hundred and seventy seven
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know Democrats vote by mail more than Republicans.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
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Speaker 2 (16:51):
Am I correct that the election in Pennsylvania buck was
decided by eighty thousand voters. I believe I am correct
that that is the margin final margin I know, I
know in twenty twenty that was agreed upon based on
these mail in ballot request If my math is correct here,
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better position for twenty twenty four than in twenty twenty.
And by the way, the Democrat and republic I mean,
the Republican request for mail in ballots is not that
much different in twenty twenty versus twenty twenty four. So anyway,
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Our friend, doctor Marty McCarey is with us now on
Hopkins University Medical Center, and a book that he's written
(19:05):
is out today, Blind Spots, When Medicine Gets it Wrong
and What it Means for our health. It is already
a number two best seller in America on Amazon. Congrats
for that one, doctor McCay. Great to have you on
the program once again.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Good to be with you, guys, Thanks for having me.
Let's just dive right into it. I want to give
you the floor, Doc. I mean, we saw it during COVID.
Not only were people going along in groupthink, but they
remain steadfast in their wrong think as their group think
fell apart when the data and evidence came in, and
it feels like there's been no self reflection within medical circles.
(19:41):
But you would know much better than us. So what
are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yeah, look, I have not seen any humility for any
one of the many mistakes during COVID. But the book
I have doesn't really talk much about COVID because people
are sick of it and it's kind of tribal. But
COVID was a little peak into how a broader medical
establishment works with groupthink and blind If you look at
the track record of healthcare over the last fifty years
in America, it's been a failure. It's been a total failure. Sure,
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we're better at doing certain operations and emergency care, but
diabetes now has affected one in five children. Half of
kids today are overweight or obese. Autism goes up fourteen
percent every year for the last twenty three consecutive years.
And in my field of pancreatic cancer, cancer rates have
doubled in the last two decades. So who is stopping
(20:28):
to say, hey, what's going on here? We have a
poisoned food supply, we have these highly engineered chemicals, we
add pesticides, and nobody is talking about these root causes
in healthcare.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
We're talking to doctor Marty mccairy. You were so right
about everything having to do with COVID. So for people
out there who are interested in potentially reading this book,
I would encourage them just to do it because you've
been willing to speak out and challenge conventional orthodoxy. And
that brings me to this question. Scientific American, which is
a magazine that I've believe has existed for basically one
(21:01):
hundred and eighty years, nearly a two hundred year old publication,
in twenty twenty decided they had to endorse a presidential
candidate for the first time in their history. They endorsed
Donald Trump. Now again in twenty twenty four. Sorry, they
endorsed Joe Biden. Now again in twenty twenty four, they
are endorsing Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. What does it
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do to science to you for it to have become
so political that a magazine which theoretically only exists to
cover science, would feel compelled to have a favored presidential candidate, Well, Clay.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
It exposes them for who they are, that are political activists.
At the top of modern medicine. Look, most doctors and
health professionals are amazing people. They come to the field
out of a sense of compassion and wanting to help people.
But a small group of doctors at the top are
making all the decisions, and they've decided to get political.
New England Journal of Medicine the same thing. They were
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staunchly a partisan for two hundred and eight years and
just the last presidential election decided to endorse Biden with
the rationale that if we could only get Donald Trump
to wear a cloth mask a little more frequently, then
we could end the pandemic. That's what they thought.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's it's stunning. We're talking to doctor Martin McCarey blind
spots when medicine gets it wrong of what it means
for our health. I mean, Doc, I'm wondering in the book,
do you go into some areas where medicine has historically
gotten it so very wrong and where the consensus just
fell flat on its face. But I know you could
go back to what was it John Snow in eighteen
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seventies London, Doctor, wasn't it Doctor Snow? And figuring out
where typhus outbreaks were. There's that great book, The Ghost Map.
But I mean there's a lot of examples right through
even much more recent examples of institutional medicine saying this
has to be right and we find out it's actually not.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Yeah, Buck, So there's Look, there's an illusion of consensus
today around so much any health recommendations that the medical
establishment has perfectly backwards. They demonized natural fat for sixty years,
igniting the refined carbohydrate added sugar addiction that led to
the obesity epidemic. They got opioids are non addictive wrong
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for thirty years, They got peanut allergay prevention wrong for
fifteen years. They just recently corrected that they get so
many of these big recommendations wrong when they don't use
good science. People need to know the truth about gut
health and these giant blind spots that we don't talk
about in modern medicine but are central to health and longevity,
in the health of our nation's children. And that's why
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I wrote this book.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Give me a couple of things that is, writing this book,
you found that you think Americans should be doing for
either themselves or their kids that are not particularly massive
in detail, right. I mean, there's some things everybody should
be doing. You should be walking more. You should be
working out more right, But in terms of health, what
two or three pieces of advice that are aren't overwhelming
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would you give our audience right now that you think
could make a difference in how they feel and their
livelihoods and also their longevity.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
We have to take care of our gut health. The
millions of bacteria that line are and testing are integral
to digestion, training, the immune system, and even involved in mood.
So studies are showing taking antibiotics you don't need are
making us sick. Unnecessary sea sections change that microbiome. And
if you think pesticides are effective in killing pests, guess
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what they're doing to your gut bacteria. They're doing damage
as well, and it's causing a chronic inflammation. The bodies
reacting to all these chemicals like seed oils that are
not natural as they sound, their derivatives and their chemicals,
and so the body does not react with an acute
inflammatory response. It has a low grade response and it
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makes people feel sick. And most of our modern illnesses,
most chronic diseases, and many cancers are caused by inflammation.
So don't cook with corn oil and vegetable oil and
soybean oil, canola thinking they're say they're natural cook with
avocado oil, extra virgin olive oil, and other healthy oils DOCA.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
There's this realization that I think became pretty widespread in
the last maybe ten years, that people go through medical
school four years and the residency and it's all this
really time intensive, impressive knowledge, memorization, etc. That comes with it.
But I think I've heard that standard MD program there's
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like a day or maybe a week that even deals
with nutrition. I mean, you're laying out how much the
food that we eat affects in the most real and
important ways psychological health, physical health. Are they getting better
about that in med school because it feels like if
they're skipping it there, when are these doctors going to
catch up on it.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
You know, they're getting worse. And you're right, we're turning
these bright, creative young kids into robots with a reflex.
We tell them to memorize all this useless stuff they
don't have to know on demand. They have to also
memorize medication, so they learned just how to diagnose and
treat and no one's talking about the root causes of illnesses.
And the nutrition part is basically absent. I was just
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talking to a medical student from a school in the
US and he was telling me he got two hours
of nutrition training in his medical school, and when we
talked about what they taught him, it was the old
broken food pyramid nonsense from the government. The government spread
a lot of misinformation on nutrition and food. So it
would have been better probably for him to have zero
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time studying nutrition given what they were teaching them.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Doctor Martin McCarey with us right now. The book which
is skyrocketing by the way up bestseller list is out today,
That Blinds Book which Blind Spots. Yes, I'm looking at
it's the number twenty six overall bestseller in all of
America on Amazon literally at this moment, so many people
are buying it. That's an incredible debut for you on Amazon, Doc,
(26:59):
So congrats. I want to ask you this though, and
you and I have talked about this some, but Buck
and I are both nerds when it comes to history.
We love history. The study of science is overwhelmingly filled
throughout all of history with people who have challenged conventional
authority and ended up right. Maybe one hundred years down
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the line, maybe a couple of hundred years. Is it
really science at all for so many people out there
to be saying only trust the consensus, never challenge anything.
Is that the antithesis of science itself? And doesn't that
reflect a particularly stultifying idea that is ahistorical in nature
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because you're not looking back. I mean, look, several hundred
years ago, the most brilliant doctors out there, when you
got sick would have said, hey, the way we got
to treat this, make sure that we take as much
blood out of your body as we possibly can. It's
not just that oftentimes or wrong, it's that they're actually
doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know, people have.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Raw memories of what they just saw our government do.
A government reamed through an emergency approval of a novel
vaccine for young, healthy kids. They fired the two vaccine
experts that the FDA who objected to its approval. They
then forced it and required it on many people, and
then they silenced the doctors who expressed their concerns. That's
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the most dangerous thing a government can do. But it
turns out that whole dynamic with Anthony Fauci and people
who had different opinions being suppressed. That is the story
of many of the modern medicine health recommendations. Hormone replacement
therapy for postmenopausal women is amazing, women live longer, feel better,
it prevents Alzheimer's. All of these benefits are overwhelming. But
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there's an NIH doctor twenty two years ago who announced
that it caused breast cancer, even though his own data
never supported it. So sadly, to this day, fifty million
women have been denied this incredible therapy at the time
in menopause, and so people need to know the truth.
Eighty percent of doctors still believe that dogma, that hormon
therapy because of brust cancer, because it was an NIH
(29:14):
guy and an NIH guy doing a study with Harvard
and Stanford doctors must be correct, right. That's the power
of group think, and that's what we have to challenge.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Doctor McCarey wondering, and I know this is a big topic,
but someone told me recently, a friend of mine said,
do you know how many vaccines are on the CDC
website or Cleveland Clinic for example, I'm on their website
right now looking as I talk to you, or on
what's the vaccine schedule, and I said, I don't know,
(29:42):
like five or ten, and I think the number that
I was given was something like like forty or fifty.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Seventy two.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Seventy two. There you go, seventy two. I mean we
got HEPB rotavirus dip theory, heemophilis NIMA cockle inactivated polio
rotavirus dtaight, I mean I just go all seventy two
right here in front of me. That you know, I
grew up thinking, oh my gosh, vaccines have sort of
saved so many millions and millions of lives. And I
know there are very very good vaccines. It's a huge advance,
(30:12):
but seventy two seems like a lot.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Well, a couple of them are given together, so it's
not seventy two different sticks. But does a child need
a hepatitis B vaccine within an hour of being born?
Is that a nice way to welcome a human to
the world. Stick them with a hepatitis B vaccine? It's
a sexually acquired infection. What are we doing giving it
to newborns. It's not like, you know, hey, we've captured
(30:37):
the aliens, so we got to vaccinate them while we
have them in our hospital walls, so we need You
can't challenge they're sacred cows. You cannot challenge any vaccine
in medicine because the oligarchs have said it's a belief system.
You either believe in them or you don't. So if
you if you raise a couple of questions about some
they have a way of railroading folks. But you know,
(31:00):
now we can talk around them. Now We've got podcasts
and social media and books and many other things out there,
and we need to challenge these deeply held assumptions. Maybe
we need to treat more diabetes with cooking classes than
just throwing insulin at everybody. Maybe we need to talk
about school lunch programs, not just putting every overweight kid
on ozempic. Maybe we need to talk about environmental exposures
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that cost cancer, not just the chemo to treat it.
They have such blinders on and if they would have
one tenth of the enthusiasm they have for vaccines for
addressing our poisoned food supply, we'd have a much healthier country.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We're talking to doctor Marty McCarey. His book surging up
bestseller list. Encourage you to check it out and like
I said, it's all the way to number nine twenty
six in the nation blind spots. I bet we can
make that almost number one by the time he finishes
this interview. You were just talking about the getting all
the vaccine shots and everything else. Doc, When you look
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at the COVID shot right now, would you encourage anyone
to be getting that shot for their kids or themselves
at this point or do you think everybody's already had it?
There is truly zero benefit at this point.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Look, we were told the vaccine is what was going
to beat the pandemic and get us out of the pandemic.
You know what got us out of the pandemic was
natural immunity. So call me a little old fashion. I
want to see a proper randomized clinical trial before recommending
any novel medication to anybody. And that's going to be
my position with all medications.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Thanks Doc, drive that book all the way blind Spots
up to number one. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Thanks so much, guys.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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Speaker 2 (33:37):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Our thanks
to doctor Martin McCarey, who I really want to reemphasize this.
If you're like me, and if you're like Buck and
you're still furious about COVID. People who were willing to
speak out against the conventional wisdom and ended up being correct.
I'm telling you should go buy their books. When they
(33:59):
write books, I'm telling you should support them. And his
book is not about COVID, But I trust him buck
to be right about good advice from a health perspective
that many of us should be embracing that a lot
of us don't think about on a daily basis. Because
he was so right about COVID, I would be really
interested to see what he's saying about other aspects of health.
(34:20):
And the one thing that I've been fired up for
a long time, and I meant to ask doctor Mcarey.
I believe I'm correct. And only two countries in the
world allowed drugs to be advertised on television. It's US
and one other. I think we should end advertising of
drugs on television. And I understand that that is a
huge part of the revenue for cable channels and everything else.
(34:43):
But you can't tell me that a huge When patients
are walking into doctors' offices and asking for drugs by name,
and I'm talking about prescription drugs, you can't tell me
that that's making us healthier in any way, or that
that is overall good for America to have the pharmaceutical
industry able to take over all of the advertising industry
(35:06):
in general. I mean, does that make sense. It's one
thing if you want to advertise, like, hey, something that
you can buy over the counter. I get it.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
But prescription drug advertising gets me fired out. I don't
know free speech absolutist, I don't know. I think you're
starting to pick and choose. It's like me with cigarette bands.
I'm all about freedom until someone lights up next to
me at a restaurant, and then I want the stazi
to come in and put.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Their butt out. Now, you don't have the right to
advertise cocaine on television.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, that's an elites play.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's an illegal drug, right, But these drugs are not
able to be purchased without prescriptions. I'm saying over the counter, Okay,
you can go buy whatever. I'm not an expert on
over the counter drugs, but you want to go buy
and buy silent all sure, yeah, yeah yeah, or aspirin
or whatever else. But hey, my lower back is hurting,
and I saw a television ad during a football game
(35:54):
for a lower back prescription drug. This is probably not
going to help me at all, but they know if
they advertise it, you ask for it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You don't want to see any more ads with sort
of a vaguely named drug that just shows people in
their twilight years on horseback on a beach somewhere and
then randomly hugging each other in a beautiful field. And
you're like, is this what happens if I take this pill?
Because that seems like really cool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I tell you, Buck, what really has broken me on
allowing prescription drug advertisement this Travis Kelce two Shots in
one bs with Pfizer. I mean they have spent I
bet Pfizer spent two or three hundred million dollars trying
to get people to go buy their worthless COVID shot.
And I'm sorry, I don't think you should be. I
(36:40):
don't take any money back.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's a lot of money, though, I mean, you know,
I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. We're not
trying to do drug advertisements on the show unless the
money's right.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
But you know,
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Third hour kicks
off now, and I feel compelled to play to bring
something into the discussion here that got left on the
cutting room floor yesterday because we obviously had an attempted
assassination of President Trump. On Sunday, Kamala Harris did an interview.
(00:24):
You see this, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh yeah, I told you about it on Friday, when
on Friday evening, it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Was Friday evening, and so we haven't had a chance
to go over some of this. But if you're wondering,
this is all related what we talked about in the
first hour. The immediate shift in the conversation from yeah, yeah,
some guy set up with a rifle with a scope
on it where Trump was going to be and maybe
was trying to assassinate him. But you know, it's Trump's
rhetoric that's causing this. And have you heard what he
(00:52):
said about the Haitian migrants, And they're just all in
on this. They don't care how gross it looks, they
don't care how obvious they're their propaganda may be. I
think one of the reasons for this is Kamala is
a horrible candidate. She is now, I know she was
able to memorize lines at the debate, and some people
were very impressed by that, But those were all prepared speeches.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's what that was.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It was the equivalent of reading off of a prompter,
except she had to memorize it in advance. So give
her credit for that. She can memorize things. I'm sure
she'd be great in the school play whatever. Trump unfortunately
didn't really get her out of the prepared speeches. But fine,
put that, it doesn't matter. I think if you look
(01:36):
at it now, Trump kind of won that debate just
based on what's happened afterwards, what the polling has showed.
So there's that, and now we see why they're hiding
Kamala Harris from everybody, why they're going to these extreme
lengths normally for a presidential candidate. It's how do I
get as many people as possible to look at my face,
(02:00):
listen to my words? How do I enter the conversation
in every household in America as often as pob That's
really a big part of what modern elections have turned into.
It's a little bit like American idol. For Kamala Harris,
it's how do I get the media to tell everybody
to vote Democrat, vote Harris, and I don't have to
do anything, and you get a sensu as to why
here she is. I want you to listen closely. This
(02:24):
was on Friday. We didn't get a chance play this
for you because it came out after the show, and
yesterday we did all the post assassination attempt analysis. It's
on Friday. It's cut twenty six. Kama's big problem is
she's part of the vice president of a failed Biden administration,
and we haven't really gotten any sens as to how
is she going to be different than Biden. She tells
(02:45):
us she'll be better than Trump, But would she be
better than Biden? Or how would she be different or
anything like that. This is how she answers listen to this.
Wonder if there are one or two spots, policy areas
or approaches where you would say, I'm a different person.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Not Joe Biden, and you know, I offer a new
generation of leadership. And so, for example, thinking about developing
and creating an opportunity economy where it's about investing in
areas that really need a lot of work, and maybe
focusing on again the aspirations and the dreams, but also
(03:22):
just recognizing that at this moment in time, some of
the stuff we could take for granted years ago, we
can't take for granted anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Clay, what the heck does that mean? Does anybody know
what she just said? Some of the things we could
take for granted, we can't take for granted unburdened by
what has been a future that is the same but
different than the past. Like what is she saying?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I think it's so important to remember she's running
for a job basically that she already has, and she
can't tell anyone why she should have that job going forward.
The one that stood out to me, and look, this
was an awful interview's eleven minutes. Okay, she did an
eleven minute interview with a local Philadelphia news reporter, and
(04:05):
I had them roll this over because Monday, I imagine
we would have talked about it a lot, but somebody
tried to kill Trump. But she has asked about what
does she want to do to bring down prices? We
have this cut twenty seven. Uh, She's asked directly, Okay,
prices are up. What is your plan in specific detail
(04:27):
to bring down prices? I think this is the number
one question that most voters have in America. It's cut
twenty seven. Listen to the gobblygook response that Kamala provides
when we talk about bringing down prices and making life.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
More affordable for people, one or two specific things you
have in mind for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That, Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a
middle class kid. My mother raised my sister and me.
She worked very hard. She was able to finally save
up enough money to buy our first house when I
was a teenager. I grew up in a community of
hardworking people, you know, construction workers and nurses and teachers.
(05:08):
And I tried to explain to some people who may
not have had the same experience. You know, if a
lot of people will relate to this, you know, I
grew up in a neighborhood of folks who are very
proud of their lawn.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay, buck Clay, she's a I'm trying not to curse.
She's a flippant moron. Okay has memorized answers that she
just distributes that don't even have anything to do with
the question.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
She's asked that this is the key for anyone who's
like Calmwood did well in the debate. She didn't debate,
She had prepared speeches that she gave. She ignored the
moderator's questions and knew the moderators wouldn't follow up, so
she was able to get away with it. But it
(05:53):
was essentially written, Okay, she was just blabbering on about
and this retreating too when I was a middle class kid.
Has nothing to do with anything. Nobody cares. But you
can tell she's going back like an actress who's trying
to remember line line, trying to remember where is she
in the monologue? Right, She's going back to what she
(06:14):
is prepared to say the same because when she doesn't
have something prepared, it's what we heard before, which was
just I mean, I don't say it's nonsense like I
disagree with it. I say it's nonsense as in, it
is nonsensic, cull, It does not hold together in any
logic or rational way. It's just words coming out of
her mouth.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Can you imagine Buck being this bad at an eleven
minute interview. I mean, we do interviews all the time.
We're great, we have five hundred affiliates. We thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Please like we're great. Yeah, we are great.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're great to have fortunate to have so many we
are great. I mean, I'm not humble, but but we're
fortunate to have five hundred affiliates out there. All right,
So we get asked to do lots of interview you
got a book coming out next year. One morning, Ali
can tell me. I think I did like twenty five
consecutive radio station interviews, all about ten or eleven minutes each,
(07:13):
no idea what questions were coming. You just sit there
and you answer questions. I can't imagine being this bad
at answering questions and having had the job a vice
president for three and a half years. Buck the questions
you're getting, how do you lower prices? A? I mean,
this is not rocket It's not like she got asked
(07:33):
who the president of Albania is right, it's not quiz bowl, right.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But also, her campaign's first major economic policy that they
officially unveiled, yes, was price controls correct, which is I mean,
this is like month one econ one oh one high
school level, not even college level economics. Price controls are
(07:57):
a failure. It will not work when you're talking about
groceries with one percent margins it is. I mean the
fact that people look at you. You really get to
the point now where you know, they voted for a
dementia patient who was clearly in declined, that didn't care,
and now they're going to be voting for somebody who
didn't win a primary, who they all thought was terrible
(08:19):
before and they don't care. You know, you start to think, like,
how different is it from just if they wrote generic
Democrat on the ballot and try to convince everybody just
just vote, just vote for the generic Democrat. We'll figure
out who the president's going to be after the election.
Let's just keep the seat warm for a Democrat. And
I think that that's effectively the campaign that you are
(08:40):
seeing rolled out right now. It's just what kind of
machinery do they have to bring to bear to get
enough people to vote not Trump and for a Democrat.
Kam Ohis has no vision, she has no understanding of
any of this stuff. She has been actually really a
tool of the machine and not even running the Democrat
machine her whole career.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, and this is why if you're Vladimir Putin, or
if you're Chairman Ze, or if you are Kim Jong un,
you're running Iran, You're the Ayatola, You're anybody involved in Hesbula,
the Palestinian authority, the Gaza universe. You want Kamala Harris
to win because she's a moron, and morons have no
(09:22):
confidence in their own vision and so are going to
follow whatever the sheep inside of the Secretary of State's
office or the deep State tell them to do. And
this is why Trump was such a wild card for
them and why many of them didn't like him, because
Trump understand whatever else you think about Trump, Trump understands
(09:43):
leverage and negotiation, and he became a president who was
willing to put pressure through leverage and negotiation on foreign adversaries,
and they were afraid of what he might do. I've
never heard a good Democrat response buck for why, if
if Trump was such a stooge of Putin, why didn't
Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was president. I've never heard
(10:06):
anybody be able to explain that, if Trump was such
a week leader, why did Hesbola not attack? Sorry, why
did Hamas and Hezboa, which we're dealing with right now,
not attack Israel like they did on October seventh? While
Trump was in office, there isn't a good response, because
the answer is they feared Trump. They were afraid of
(10:28):
what he might do to them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My concern about a Kamma administration is that it doesn't
matter how inept and how lacking in capability and vision
she is, because as we've seen with Biden, I mean,
no one really thinks Biden is the president right now
in any meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Right. We all get that.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's not like Biden's calling together meetings of his staff
and saying, guys, we really got to push this policy.
And this has been the case for a long time.
I'm not just saying now in the final months of
his presidency. Biden hasn't been running the show for a while.
We've all talked about it. We've all known there are advisors,
heads of agencies, political operatives from the Democrat apparatus who
(11:14):
are making Clay all the key decisions, pushing forward all
the agenda items, setting the schedule for the executive branch,
right and Kamala would really be more of that, and
if anything, I think she'd be even more compliant, you know,
she'd be more willing to go with whatever the Democrat
apparatus says. You know, Joe Biden still, I think because
(11:35):
of vanity likes to hold on to the oh, I'm
like middle class Joe and riding that you chew to
work and all that stuff. I think Kamala Harris would
be exactly what we've seen along, which is she'll go
She is a rubber stamp for the most left wing
agenda imaginable from the Democrat Party. And if anyone says, well,
that's not fair, that's not true. Look at all the
things that she said so he believed in before she
(11:57):
was trying to fool everybody to be president. The thing
that makes me so angry about this that I just
find it's insulting. It is truly insulting to the American people,
who are not just Democrat voters. Democrat voters they don't
care about anything else. Kamala Harris, her abandoning of her
previous positions will all be abandoned once again as she
(12:19):
takes office. So she's going to double back and go
to the far left stuff that she's currently telling everybody,
or rather having surrogates tell everybody in the media. She's
not really for that. Do I think Kamala a president
Kamala Harris Clay would give a speech where she says
that we should we should have a reparations committee to
really look at this nationally. Absolutely, I do do I
think Kamala Harris, taking big money from California environmental wackos,
(12:43):
would push the most radical executive order based climate agenda
pot Absolutely I do.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I would bet on it with anybody who would want
to bet against me. I think she would go far
left on all this stuff. And the whole premise of
her candidacy is lying to you about that, right, That's
everything is just a lie about. Oh, and I was
a middle class kid. She was like she had like
some big struggle. She was the daughter of two university professors.
Give me a break.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
She lived in the richest neighborhood in all of Canada.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
They were, you know, working in the coal mines or
a steel mill or something. Like. Everybody was okay, like
plenty of money, like nice things to do.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, but they had really good lawns. Buck. That's the
important thing to know about the neighborhood that she grew
up in. She doesn't care at all about how to
reduce prices, but people really care about their lawns. And
she's a moron.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know, but I don't think it matters, is what
I'm saying to you. I don't think it matters, unfortunately,
because they're hiding her enough that not enough people will
see it. And for Democrats, by the way, I think
smart Democrats know that Kamala is dumb and they don't
care at all because she is the She's like the
puppet president. Right, it's whatever the you know, the the
(13:53):
axual rods and the you know, the well.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I mean, this is the point. We have a president. Now.
Do you think Joe Biden's doing anything? I mean, someone
stop talking about it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But he's not the president in any meaningful way. And
there is nothing. There is no one who is running
around this White House like, oh, guys, guys, Biden's calling
a meeting on a policy initiative. You know about this,
Like what's going on here? Biden is taking nap number
three at the beach right now, and I mean number
three today. That's who is the president of the United States.
(14:23):
We can all see it. Look, I mean, and yet,
and yet, when I go back home for Thanksgiving to
New York City, Clay, I'll be in a place where
eight to one they're going to Votekamala over Trump based
on the registration at least eight to one registration advantage.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's because they picked the team and it doesn't matter
who the head of the team is, they're gonna support him.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Couple of
things out there. Donald Trump has tweeted early voting in Pennsylvania,
Go vote, make America great Again DGT. That was twenty
minutes ago, and there is data. We want to talk
about data, not just feelings. Pennsylvania mail in ballot requests
(16:20):
in twenty twenty, fifty days before the election, there were
seven hundred and twenty five thousand more Democrat requests for
mail in ballots than there were for Republicans. Fifty days
before this election, there is four hundred and seventy seven
(16:41):
thousand more requests for ballots from Democrats than Republicans. We
know Democrats vote by mail more than Republicans.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Do.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Am I correct that the election in Pennsylvania buck was
decided by eighty thousand voters. I believe I am correct
that that is the margin final margin I know, I
know in twenty twenty that was agreed upon based on
these mail in ballot request If my math is correct here,
(17:13):
Republicans would be two hundred and fifty thousand in a
better position for twenty twenty four than in twenty twenty.
And by the way, the Democrat and republic I mean,
the Republican request for mail in ballots is not that
much different in twenty twenty versus twenty twenty four. So anyway,
(17:33):
in an eighty thousand election, if Democrats are starting off
with two hundred and fifty thousand less mail in ballots
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(19:05):
is out today, Blind Spots, When Medicine Gets it Wrong
and What it Means for our health. It is already
a number two best seller in America on Amazon. Congrats
for that one, doctor McCay. Great to have you on
the program once again.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Good to be with you, guys, Thanks for having me.
Let's just dive right into it. I want to give
you the floor, Doc. I mean, we saw it during COVID.
Not only were people going along in groupthink, but they
remain steadfast in their wrong think as their group think
fell apart when the data and evidence came in, and
it feels like there's been no self reflection within medical circles.
(19:41):
But you would know much better than us. So what
are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yeah, look, I have not seen any humility for any
one of the many mistakes during COVID. But the book
I have doesn't really talk much about COVID because people
are sick of it and it's kind of tribal. But
COVID was a little peak into how a broader medical
establishment works with groupthink and blind If you look at
the track record of healthcare over the last fifty years
in America, it's been a failure. It's been a total failure. Sure,
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we're better at doing certain operations and emergency care, but
diabetes now has affected one in five children. Half of
kids today are overweight or obese. Autism goes up fourteen
percent every year for the last twenty three consecutive years.
And in my field of pancreatic cancer, cancer rates have
doubled in the last two decades. So who is stopping
(20:28):
to say, hey, what's going on here? We have a
poisoned food supply, we have these highly engineered chemicals, we
add pesticides, and nobody is talking about these root causes
in healthcare.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
We're talking to doctor Marty mccairy. You were so right
about everything having to do with COVID. So for people
out there who are interested in potentially reading this book,
I would encourage them just to do it because you've
been willing to speak out and challenge conventional orthodoxy. And
that brings me to this question. Scientific American, which is
a magazine that I've believe has existed for basically one
(21:01):
hundred and eighty years, nearly a two hundred year old publication,
in twenty twenty decided they had to endorse a presidential
candidate for the first time in their history. They endorsed
Donald Trump. Now again in twenty twenty four. Sorry, they
endorsed Joe Biden. Now again in twenty twenty four, they
are endorsing Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. What does it
(21:23):
do to science to you for it to have become
so political that a magazine which theoretically only exists to
cover science, would feel compelled to have a favored presidential candidate, Well, Clay.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
It exposes them for who they are, that are political activists.
At the top of modern medicine. Look, most doctors and
health professionals are amazing people. They come to the field
out of a sense of compassion and wanting to help people.
But a small group of doctors at the top are
making all the decisions, and they've decided to get political.
New England Journal of Medicine the same thing. They were
(21:59):
staunchly a partisan for two hundred and eight years and
just the last presidential election decided to endorse Biden with
the rationale that if we could only get Donald Trump
to wear a cloth mask a little more frequently, then
we could end the pandemic. That's what they thought.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's it's stunning. We're talking to doctor Martin McCarey blind
spots when medicine gets it wrong of what it means
for our health. I mean, Doc, I'm wondering in the book,
do you go into some areas where medicine has historically
gotten it so very wrong and where the consensus just
fell flat on its face. But I know you could
go back to what was it John Snow in eighteen
(22:37):
seventies London, Doctor, wasn't it Doctor Snow? And figuring out
where typhus outbreaks were. There's that great book, The Ghost Map.
But I mean there's a lot of examples right through
even much more recent examples of institutional medicine saying this
has to be right and we find out it's actually not.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Yeah, Buck, So there's Look, there's an illusion of consensus
today around so much any health recommendations that the medical
establishment has perfectly backwards. They demonized natural fat for sixty years,
igniting the refined carbohydrate added sugar addiction that led to
the obesity epidemic. They got opioids are non addictive wrong
(23:15):
for thirty years, They got peanut allergay prevention wrong for
fifteen years. They just recently corrected that they get so
many of these big recommendations wrong when they don't use
good science. People need to know the truth about gut
health and these giant blind spots that we don't talk
about in modern medicine but are central to health and longevity,
in the health of our nation's children. And that's why
(23:37):
I wrote this book.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Give me a couple of things that is, writing this book,
you found that you think Americans should be doing for
either themselves or their kids that are not particularly massive
in detail, right. I mean, there's some things everybody should
be doing. You should be walking more. You should be
working out more right, But in terms of health, what
two or three pieces of advice that are aren't overwhelming
(24:01):
would you give our audience right now that you think
could make a difference in how they feel and their
livelihoods and also their longevity.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
We have to take care of our gut health. The
millions of bacteria that line are and testing are integral
to digestion, training, the immune system, and even involved in mood.
So studies are showing taking antibiotics you don't need are
making us sick. Unnecessary sea sections change that microbiome. And
if you think pesticides are effective in killing pests, guess
(24:31):
what they're doing to your gut bacteria. They're doing damage
as well, and it's causing a chronic inflammation. The bodies
reacting to all these chemicals like seed oils that are
not natural as they sound, their derivatives and their chemicals,
and so the body does not react with an acute
inflammatory response. It has a low grade response and it
(24:53):
makes people feel sick. And most of our modern illnesses,
most chronic diseases, and many cancers are caused by inflammation.
So don't cook with corn oil and vegetable oil and
soybean oil, canola thinking they're say they're natural cook with
avocado oil, extra virgin olive oil, and other healthy oils DOCA.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
There's this realization that I think became pretty widespread in
the last maybe ten years, that people go through medical
school four years and the residency and it's all this
really time intensive, impressive knowledge, memorization, etc. That comes with it.
But I think I've heard that standard MD program there's
(25:36):
like a day or maybe a week that even deals
with nutrition. I mean, you're laying out how much the
food that we eat affects in the most real and
important ways psychological health, physical health. Are they getting better
about that in med school because it feels like if
they're skipping it there, when are these doctors going to
catch up on it.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
You know, they're getting worse. And you're right, we're turning
these bright, creative young kids into robots with a reflex.
We tell them to memorize all this useless stuff they
don't have to know on demand. They have to also
memorize medication, so they learned just how to diagnose and
treat and no one's talking about the root causes of illnesses.
And the nutrition part is basically absent. I was just
(26:14):
talking to a medical student from a school in the
US and he was telling me he got two hours
of nutrition training in his medical school, and when we
talked about what they taught him, it was the old
broken food pyramid nonsense from the government. The government spread
a lot of misinformation on nutrition and food. So it
would have been better probably for him to have zero
(26:34):
time studying nutrition given what they were teaching them.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Doctor Martin McCarey with us right now. The book which
is skyrocketing by the way up bestseller list is out today,
That Blinds Book which Blind Spots. Yes, I'm looking at
it's the number twenty six overall bestseller in all of
America on Amazon literally at this moment, so many people
are buying it. That's an incredible debut for you on Amazon, Doc,
(26:59):
So congrats. I want to ask you this though, and
you and I have talked about this some, but Buck
and I are both nerds when it comes to history.
We love history. The study of science is overwhelmingly filled
throughout all of history with people who have challenged conventional
authority and ended up right. Maybe one hundred years down
(27:20):
the line, maybe a couple of hundred years. Is it
really science at all for so many people out there
to be saying only trust the consensus, never challenge anything.
Is that the antithesis of science itself? And doesn't that
reflect a particularly stultifying idea that is ahistorical in nature
(27:45):
because you're not looking back. I mean, look, several hundred
years ago, the most brilliant doctors out there, when you
got sick would have said, hey, the way we got
to treat this, make sure that we take as much
blood out of your body as we possibly can. It's
not just that oftentimes or wrong, it's that they're actually
doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know, people have.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Raw memories of what they just saw our government do.
A government reamed through an emergency approval of a novel
vaccine for young, healthy kids. They fired the two vaccine
experts that the FDA who objected to its approval. They
then forced it and required it on many people, and
then they silenced the doctors who expressed their concerns. That's
(28:27):
the most dangerous thing a government can do. But it
turns out that whole dynamic with Anthony Fauci and people
who had different opinions being suppressed. That is the story
of many of the modern medicine health recommendations. Hormone replacement
therapy for postmenopausal women is amazing, women live longer, feel better,
it prevents Alzheimer's. All of these benefits are overwhelming. But
(28:52):
there's an NIH doctor twenty two years ago who announced
that it caused breast cancer, even though his own data
never supported it. So sadly, to this day, fifty million
women have been denied this incredible therapy at the time
in menopause, and so people need to know the truth.
Eighty percent of doctors still believe that dogma, that hormon
therapy because of brust cancer, because it was an NIH
(29:14):
guy and an NIH guy doing a study with Harvard
and Stanford doctors must be correct, right. That's the power
of group think, and that's what we have to challenge.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Doctor McCarey wondering, and I know this is a big topic,
but someone told me recently, a friend of mine said,
do you know how many vaccines are on the CDC
website or Cleveland Clinic for example, I'm on their website
right now looking as I talk to you, or on
what's the vaccine schedule, and I said, I don't know,
(29:42):
like five or ten, and I think the number that
I was given was something like like forty or fifty.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Seventy two.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Seventy two. There you go, seventy two. I mean we
got HEPB rotavirus dip theory, heemophilis NIMA cockle inactivated polio
rotavirus dtaight, I mean I just go all seventy two
right here in front of me. That you know, I
grew up thinking, oh my gosh, vaccines have sort of
saved so many millions and millions of lives. And I
know there are very very good vaccines. It's a huge advance,
(30:12):
but seventy two seems like a lot.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Well, a couple of them are given together, so it's
not seventy two different sticks. But does a child need
a hepatitis B vaccine within an hour of being born?
Is that a nice way to welcome a human to
the world. Stick them with a hepatitis B vaccine? It's
a sexually acquired infection. What are we doing giving it
to newborns. It's not like, you know, hey, we've captured
(30:37):
the aliens, so we got to vaccinate them while we
have them in our hospital walls, so we need You
can't challenge they're sacred cows. You cannot challenge any vaccine
in medicine because the oligarchs have said it's a belief system.
You either believe in them or you don't. So if
you if you raise a couple of questions about some
they have a way of railroading folks. But you know,
(31:00):
now we can talk around them. Now We've got podcasts
and social media and books and many other things out there,
and we need to challenge these deeply held assumptions. Maybe
we need to treat more diabetes with cooking classes than
just throwing insulin at everybody. Maybe we need to talk
about school lunch programs, not just putting every overweight kid
on ozempic. Maybe we need to talk about environmental exposures
(31:20):
that cost cancer, not just the chemo to treat it.
They have such blinders on and if they would have
one tenth of the enthusiasm they have for vaccines for
addressing our poisoned food supply, we'd have a much healthier country.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We're talking to doctor Marty McCarey. His book surging up
bestseller list. Encourage you to check it out and like
I said, it's all the way to number nine twenty
six in the nation blind spots. I bet we can
make that almost number one by the time he finishes
this interview. You were just talking about the getting all
the vaccine shots and everything else. Doc, When you look
(31:55):
at the COVID shot right now, would you encourage anyone
to be getting that shot for their kids or themselves
at this point or do you think everybody's already had it?
There is truly zero benefit at this point.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Look, we were told the vaccine is what was going
to beat the pandemic and get us out of the pandemic.
You know what got us out of the pandemic was
natural immunity. So call me a little old fashion. I
want to see a proper randomized clinical trial before recommending
any novel medication to anybody. And that's going to be
my position with all medications.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Thanks Doc, drive that book all the way blind Spots
up to number one. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Thanks so much, guys.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Our thanks
to doctor Martin McCarey, who I really want to reemphasize this.
If you're like me, and if you're like Buck and
you're still furious about COVID. People who were willing to
speak out against the conventional wisdom and ended up being correct.
I'm telling you should go buy their books. When they
(33:59):
write books, I'm telling you should support them. And his
book is not about COVID, But I trust him buck
to be right about good advice from a health perspective
that many of us should be embracing that a lot
of us don't think about on a daily basis. Because
he was so right about COVID, I would be really
interested to see what he's saying about other aspects of health.
(34:20):
And the one thing that I've been fired up for
a long time, and I meant to ask doctor Mcarey.
I believe I'm correct. And only two countries in the
world allowed drugs to be advertised on television. It's US
and one other. I think we should end advertising of
drugs on television. And I understand that that is a
huge part of the revenue for cable channels and everything else.
(34:43):
But you can't tell me that a huge When patients
are walking into doctors' offices and asking for drugs by name,
and I'm talking about prescription drugs, you can't tell me
that that's making us healthier in any way, or that
that is overall good for America to have the pharmaceutical
industry able to take over all of the advertising industry
(35:06):
in general. I mean, does that make sense. It's one
thing if you want to advertise, like, hey, something that
you can buy over the counter. I get it.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
But prescription drug advertising gets me fired out. I don't
know free speech absolutist, I don't know. I think you're
starting to pick and choose. It's like me with cigarette bands.
I'm all about freedom until someone lights up next to
me at a restaurant, and then I want the stazi
to come in and put.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Their butt out. Now, you don't have the right to
advertise cocaine on television.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, that's an elites play.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's an illegal drug, right, But these drugs are not
able to be purchased without prescriptions. I'm saying over the counter, Okay,
you can go buy whatever. I'm not an expert on
over the counter drugs, but you want to go buy
and buy silent all sure, yeah, yeah yeah, or aspirin
or whatever else. But hey, my lower back is hurting,
and I saw a television ad during a football game
(35:54):
for a lower back prescription drug. This is probably not
going to help me at all, but they know if
they advertise it, you ask for it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You don't want to see any more ads with sort
of a vaguely named drug that just shows people in
their twilight years on horseback on a beach somewhere and
then randomly hugging each other in a beautiful field. And
you're like, is this what happens if I take this pill?
Because that seems like really cool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I tell you, Buck, what really has broken me on
allowing prescription drug advertisement this Travis Kelce two Shots in
one bs with Pfizer. I mean they have spent I
bet Pfizer spent two or three hundred million dollars trying
to get people to go buy their worthless COVID shot.
And I'm sorry, I don't think you should be. I
(36:40):
don't take any money back.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's a lot of money, though, I mean, you know,
I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. We're not
trying to do drug advertisements on the show unless the
money's right.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
But you know,
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