March 14, 2025 • 37 mins
Clay and Buck podcast host Tudor Dixon joins the show to discuss the Michigan Senate race, education, DOGE, Pete Buttigieg, Gretchen Whitmer and Democrat implosions. Rep. Sarah McBride (D-DE) says the Republican Party is obsessed with culture war issues. Vice President JD Vance says Green Card holders don't have an indefinite right to be in America. Free speech means even protecting speech you don't like. Mahmoud Khalil's attorney Donna Liberman says her client has been kidnapped and he's being charged with having ideas. Reporter asks Irish PM about Rosie O'Donnell and Trump weighs in with hilarious response. Use the iHeart Radio app Talkback feature to leave Buck some baby advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll come back in the third hour of play and
(00:01):
Buck on this lovely Friday. I appreciate you being with us.
Our friend Tutor Dixon joins us now. Tutor is, of
course the host of the Tutor Dixon Show on the
play in Box podcast network, and she is up in
her home state of Michigan right now. She's in Bay City,
in fact, and a fellow by the name of jd
Vance is in your neighborhood today, Tutor, you guys are
(00:24):
hanging out. What's going on up there? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Absolutely. He and Kelly Leffler, who is the administrator of
the small business is in Washington. She's out here today
as well. So they are coming to a small business
in Michigan called Vantage Plastics, and we are headed into
the building in a few minutes here to see them
speak about the importance of manufacturing in Michigan. That was
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a big promise from Donald Trump on the campaign trail,
and he is following through to make sure that he
is taking care of Michigan manufacturers and the workers here
in the state of Michigan. And we could not be
more excited to have them back here in the state.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So what can be done by the Trump administration, perhaps
JD as point man on some of some of these
policy items. What can be done to get manufacturing up
and running in the kind of increases that Donald Trump
wants and has promised.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think he's been very clear that he is going
to make sure that we don't have these competitors from
for example, China coming in. If you saw what happened
in Germany, the Volkswagen factories all closed down because the
Chinese electric pickles came to Germany and took over. And
he's been very clear that he's going to make sure
that things are American made and that American cars are
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still number one in the country. That's very important here
in the state of Michigan. Obviously, we are the state
that put the world on wheels. We want to make
sure that we continue to have auto manufacturing in the
United States and centered right here in the state of Michigan.
And so not only has he focused on that, but
those these tariffs that we are talking about as well,
that's also going to draw back American manufacturers and manufacturing
(02:03):
in America, which will ultimately help all of our Tier one,
Tier two, and Tier three suppliers here in the state
of Michigan, and that's what we want to make sure
we beef up because we are really struggling in the
state to make sure that we are supplying enough jobs
for the people in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So it sounds like when you're talking to people up
there who are in manufacturing, are they enthusiastic about Trump's
tariff specifically as they pertain to Canada or is there
one country that you hear about more than the others
right now? Because tariffs is getting a lot of attention
this week. So what are you hearing from people who
are trying to actually make stuff here at home in America?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Up in Michigan, the people if Michigan came out strong
for Donald Trump. They believe in what he's doing. When
I talk to them, they're like, yes, this is why
I voted for him. I trust what he's doing. I
know that he knows he understands the art of the deal,
he understands negotiations, he understands when he has the level bridge.
They're not concerned about all the fear mongering they're hearing
(03:03):
from the left because they know that they need a
change here in the state, especially in this state. I mean,
if you look at us, We're forty first in the
nation in almost every category. If something doesn't change in Michigan,
I mean, really, who's going to be the last person
to turn out the lights on the way out the door.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's a remarkable set of circumstances up there. And I
also want to know. Tell me what happened with Pete
Buddha Judge running for Senate in Michigan. It lasted like
a day and then I am told, is he even
a Michigan guy? I don't even know. I knew he
was in South Bend, Indiana, which is close by, as
the mayor. But what happened to Mayor Pete? I thought
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he was going to make a run for it up there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, Mayor Pete did win one election in his lifetime,
so he believes that he will be able to win
the presidency apparently now. But he was looking at the
Senate because he moved to Michigan about four years ago.
He moved to Traverse City, and I suspect that he
was looking at the Senate race. And yet there are
a lot of people here who've lived in Michigan for
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almost their whole lives, if not their whole lives who
would like to have the Senate seat on the Democrat side,
and I suspect that some of these women said to him, no,
you step aside. But then he's saying, well, people were
saying he'd have a better chance at the presidency if
he didn't have one run right after the other. Give
me a break. We know exactly what happened. He's a
failed transportation secretary. He knows that he cannot explain what's
(04:30):
happening in transportation today. That goes right back to his record.
He knows that running or being the mayor of South
Bend is not going to move people in the state
of Michigan to put him out there as one of
our senators. And he's a radical. He's not only that
at his job, he's a radical. He doesn't fit the
state of Michigan. So I think people went to him
and said, hey man, this is not your time. And
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he believes, for some reason that he can run for president.
And I look forward to watching the matchup of Big
Gretch and Mayor Pete together from Michigan again on the
stage trying to go up against the Republicans. I think
it'll be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
We're speaking of we're speaking to our friend Tutor Dixon,
who's got the Tutor Dixon podcast. You Read My Mind
with Gretchen Whittmer. Next up here on our list of
things to discuss. How is she doing statewide and approval ratings?
Where does she fall? You think in this you've probably
seen Gavin Newsom making a big play for the big
(05:27):
Democrat slot right meaning no one is going to be
running in a primary right now, but people are already
thinking about who is going to be and who are
who the front runners would be on the Democrat side.
Gretchen Whitmer and all this does how does she factor
in it? I mean, let's just get to this. Is
she running for president in the next cycle?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You think, oh, I have no doubt. I mean, Gretchen
Whitmer is generally well. She has historically always been running
for the next seat while she's in the one that
she currently is elected to. And she's not doing the job,
as you can see by us being the forty first
the nation in almost every category. But her approval ratings
stay high because she refuses to speak to the media,
(06:07):
and the media in Michigan lets her get away with
it because she's a Democrat. She puts out these videos
that are filled with why saying that the state is
in great shape, but if you look at the numbers,
the state is in horrible condition. The one thing that
will be her downfall is that she's never had a
strong opponent with financial the financial ability to prove how
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bad she is. And I say that as one of
her of her former opponents. There is so much that
needs to be exposed about Gretchen Whitmer on the presidential stage.
She cannot she would not be able to survive her
own record, but I look forward to her trying to
do it with her little videos of dorito communions and
things like that. I just don't think that's going to
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play well for the entire nation.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, what was that all about the dorito communion thing?
I remember that now. It feels like it was years ago,
but it wasn't that long ago. She was What was
the point of that? Again? I just remind me about
this one because I remember looking at this video on
X and thinking that is very weird.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
She went through this strange phase of having I think
she had a very young social media team that was
telling her all of these videos were very cool and
there had been strange videos where she was talking to
a potato and all of these bizarre AI videos. But
then the last one that she did, and this was
really the last cringey video she did. She had a
(07:28):
girl on her knees in front of her and she
was feeding her dorito's and they were The look on
their faces was very awkward, and everybody went, what in
the world, And it made the Catholics so mad they
went and protested outside of her house. How could you
treat the Catholics like this? I mean it was really
such an unforced error on her entire and she wasn't
(07:50):
campaigning why she was campaigning for Kamala Harris. It was
the same week that Kamala Harris did blue Off the
Al Smith dinner and did thee Mary Catherine Gallagher skit.
I mean, this is like the best way for Democrats
to make every Catholic in the country mad, and I
think they effectively did. And I really say that she
had a major She played a major role in them
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losing that election because of what she did with Catholics
that week.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yes, it's it has been quite a quite a journey
for gretchor Wimmer. I still am amazed that she hasn't
even been held accountable for the COVID situation. But I
guess that's not going to happen. Maybe it will if
she runs for president. How are you feeling about how
things are going with with doje Elon and cleaning up
the swamp? What's your take on that as somebody who's
(08:36):
had to look at I'm sure Michigan has some swampiness
to clean up, but nationwide doge Elon, they're looking at it.
How do you think it's.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Going There's no better sign that it's going well than
the Democrats completely freaking out about it. I mean, AOC
is saying she's going to primary Schumer because he's going
to go along with the cr that is going to
give Elon more power. I mean, they're obsessed. They're obsessed
with him because he is exposing the waste, fraud and abuse,
(09:04):
and the fact that they can't possibly step back and say, well, hey,
we do believe there needs to be cuts, we'd like
to see it a different way, or we'd like to
see this happen. They can't even logically look at it.
They just go into complete meltdown mode that there are
any cuts at all. That's unreasonable. And when you see
someone have a completely unreasonable reaction, you realize there's something
(09:26):
that they're hiding. And this is a very good program.
Elon Musk is doing an incredible job, and they're terrified
of it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, you have a few things happening simultaneously with
these cuts. One of them is the Department of Education
had a whole bunch of people told that their services
are no longer needed, and now we are told that
by the New York Times. I talked about this yesterday,
that because those people aren't around, we won't have the
best number crunchers to tell us how the school systems
(09:58):
are doing in different states. You know, so the federal
government has to just sit there and have people that
are hovering and crunching numbers to tell you that states
are feeling I assume, just taking Michigan as an example,
there's a lot that could be improved within the school system,
a lot of waste and a lot of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Forty first in education as well. That's what we have
to boast about. So when people say, well, my goodness,
what will we do if the Department of Ed isn't
there to tell us how bad we are. Actually, we'd
like to see phonics in schools. We'd like to see
kids reading. We know in the state of Michigan that
the kids who can't read almost always end up in prison.
(10:35):
We know that that's the case across the board, and
yet we're more concerned about whether or not there are
number crunchers in Washington, DC, rather than whether or not
the teachers in the classroom are getting the right information
to get to the students. That we have the best
public schools in the world. I mean, that shouldn't even
be a question for Americans. Americans should be saying every day,
(10:57):
why the heck would America not have the best schools
in the entire world? And the minute we see one slipping,
why wouldn't we just completely go crazy about the thought
of our kids not having the best possible education. There
is no there's no reason for us to accept anything
less than perfection when it comes to education in the
(11:18):
United States of America. And yet the fact that you
see Democrats every day saying, just keep funneling money into
a bunch of people who have had zero success. I
mean it's like you look at California, You've got what
a billion dollars that goes into homelessness in San Francisco,
in LA and yet you have the worst homelessness problem
(11:38):
in the entire country and you continue to funnel money
into it. At a certain point you say, man, homelessness
at poor education. These have all become industries and then
of themselves that thrive on failure. We can no longer
allow government to thrive on failure.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Tudor Dixon, everybody, tutor, have a great time at the
event today with the Vice President J d. Vance. Give
him regards from Clay and Buck to him. He should
come hang out with us soon and thank you for
being here, and everyone should go check out your podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
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Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We talked about
this the week. You had a member of Congress who
didn't want to play the game where you have to
say the wrong pronoun for a person because that's what
they demand. They tell you that's the nice thing to do.
You got to use the wrong pronoun or the improper.
Incorrect is actually the way to think of it, the
incorrect pronoun for somebody. You have to be a part
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of the delusion that somebody is actually a female when
they're not.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Takes us to the conversation with Representative McBride formerly Tim
now Sarah. So Sarah McBride is a guy, and this
got a lot of attention because a member of Congress
just wasn't going to do it. I mean, it wasn't
going to play the game refusal, he said, mister McBride
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or congressman. I think it was Congressman McBride, he said.
And now you'll notice this is the strategy that I've
told you about so many times. They try, meaning the left,
the people promoting the trans agenda, they try to tell
you that you have to say it the following way, right,
(15:10):
like you must do this, you must obey me. And
when we say hold on a second, I don't want
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by lies. Soulzanitsen. So this is where you see the
strategy work. And now that that exchange has happened, Congressman
(15:33):
McBride is saying, it's just another version of this. It's
why are you so obsessed with this? Why are you
obsessed with me? I hear, I live rent free in
the minds of my Republican colleagues. Play five.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I appear to live rent free in the minds of
some of my Republican colleagues. I wish that they would
spend even a fraction of the time that they spend
thinking about me thinking about how to lower the costs
for American families. I wish they would spend a fraction
of the time that they spend thinking about me figuring
out how to make government actually work better, rather than
making it work worse in order to prove that government
(16:07):
can't work. They are obsessed with culture war issues. The
Republican Party is obsessed with cultural war issues. It is
weird and it is bizarre, and the American people deserve
serious legislators, serious elected officials who are focused on bringing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
People together to deliver real results.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
For the American people, not to play games and not
to engage in school yard taunts.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We're obsessed. You're a dude who says he's a chick
and you're in the United States Congress and you want
people to go along with it. No, this is notice,
this is what happens. Do what I say or else. No,
I'm not going to because you're telling me that I
have to lie and I have to be a part
of this. Why are you so obsessed with this? Why
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is it such a big deal to you? Why is
it such a big deal to you? If you know
you're a woman, fine be it. You know, create this
thing in your head you're a woman. But people are
gonna call you mister, and it's gonna say mail on
your driver's license. And that's the way society is going
to function and be orderly because we can't all be
a part of someone's lie. That's a very straightforward situation.
(17:13):
You want to grow your hair long, you wanna call
yourself Sarah, Fine, you're a free human being. You do
all that, that's fine, but you don't get to make
us say, you know what you're actually you're actually a lady.
You're actually a lady, and you certainly can't say this
is a big deal to me. You have to obey
my rules. And then when we say no, you go,
why why are you so into this? Why why do
(17:35):
I live red free? In your heads? The whole thing
is preposterous. But they're gonna keep doing this. They're gonna
keep slamming this issue. They will not back away from
it because they have built the whole infrastructure of lunacy
around this. And so just get ready for it. Now
we've described the tactic. You will see it time and
time again. They'll try to pass legislation that says a
(17:56):
guy's actually a girl and or you have to treat
them like it, and we'll say no. And then they'll say,
why you have passing legislation about this? Or why are
you fighting about this in congress? So disingenuous, really childish.
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back into Clay. And you know, on this Friday, there's
(19:02):
a lot of talks still about this Mahmood Khalil character
who is facing deportation. And this has got a lot
of people fired up because I think it goes There's
a couple things that intersect, a couple of different issues
here that all come together. One is that the anti
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Semitic campus stuff where you had people who were taking
the side of Hamas, which is a designated terrorist organization,
which is a vicious, vile and disgraceful entity, and anyone
associated with it is also vicious, vile and disgraceful. Anyone
who defends it is being all those things as well,
(19:48):
And so people have just had enough. But also it
goes to I think the broader conversation when it comes
to it. So there's the anti Semitic part of it,
and people are rightly just find that abhorrent. And and
then there's because remember, if it was about humanity, saving
human beings, you know, doing the right thing, don't don't
we think that these campus protests could have happened for
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a whole lot of other things as well. Why just
this issue? You know, right where are the campus protests
over the Christians who are being massacred, you know, mutilated
and executed on the streets of Damascus right now? Because
a Jiehattist Muslim terror group is now the de facto
government of Syria. You know, where are the protests about that? Now?
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There are none? Of course, we know that there's not
going to be anybody who's paying attention to that issue
from the American left. It's only when there are Jews
involved in Israel involved that suddenly there is a a
an outrage that has to spill out onto the streets
and people have to become so so furious about this
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and and break laws too. Remember when you're talking about
destroying property, when you're talking about threatening people, menacing people,
salt and battery, there are laws against this stuff. And JD.
Vance addressed this, he said, look, and this is what Again,
my initial position on this was, I just want clarity
on what the authority is and what the violation is
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and what they've told us, because I always want that
right because we are a nation of laws. And if
the authority is you're here as a guest and the
government can just decide you gotta go, and that truly
is in statute and that is a statutory authority. Great,
this guy should go see you later. Now, I do
remind everybody that there will be a Democrat president at
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some point, and there might be some people, there might
be some dissidence in this country. Let's say, I mean
I brought up the idea of South African you know,
South African asylum or you know, yeah, asylum seekers showing
up here and talking about what's going on with them
in South Africa. That may be stuff that the Left
doesn't want to hear. Well, if they're on a visa
(21:57):
or if they're on a green cart, they can be
expelled to and can't say anything about it. Right, So
just we need to understand what the rules are. The
rules as we've as it's been laid out now show
us that you're allowed to just send somebody packing if
they're a visit in the country. Jade Vance, vice president
of Vance. Here he is cut twelve speaking about how, yeah, man,
you don't have a right to be here if you're
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not an American play A.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Green card holder, even if I might like that Green
card holder doesn't have an indefinite right to be in
the United States of America, right, American citizens have different
rights from people who have Green cards, from people who
have student visas. And so my attitude on this is
this is not fundamentally about free speech, and to me, yes,
it's about national security, but it's also more importantly about
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who do we as an American public decide gets to
join our national community. And if the Secretary of State
and the President decide this person shouldn't be in America and.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
They have no legal right to stay here.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, there you go. That is the authority, that is
the rule. And this is taking us back to an
earlier era. You go back and look at immigration, and
first of all, within our laws already on the books
for things like visas. You go back and you look
at what was happening at the turn of the twentieth century.
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A big concern for us was communism and people coming
into this country with socialist slash communist ties ideas and
wanting to foment communist revolution in America. And I know
now people dismiss this stuff and say, was that ever really?
Oh no, it was a big deal. And communism anarchism
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as well, they're different. But you had a period where
you had communist anarchists and socialists from call it roughly,
you know, eighteen ninety into the nineteen twenties, and that
was a big concern, and it was an issue for
immigration purposes as well. And I think that even when
you go get a security clearance, you know, they ask
you and they say, you know, have you ever been
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a part of a group that tries to overthrow the
United States. It's I think it's reasonable that we don't
want those people coming into the country or getting a
security clearance. And I think that people who have an
espouse ideology that is clearly at odds with or is
hostile to our way of life are are subject to deportation. Now,
you could say, what about Americans who feel that way?
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A lot of Democrats maybe who feel that way, just
throwing it out there, but what about Americans who feel
that way? That is the price we pay for free speech,
is that you can have a lot of Americans who
say things that we really really hate, but they're allowed
to They're allowed to have ideas that other Americans hate.
In fact, and this is this is really a cliche
now because everyone's heard it so many times. But if
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you won't protect speech that is offensive to a lot
of people in this country, you aren't You aren't actually
protecting free speech. I don't need free speech when it
comes to the government leaving me alone to discuss the weather.
I did need free speech when it came to telling
people that the government was wrong about vaccine mandates and
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about masks and about lockdowns, for example during COVID. Then
free speech matters, and a lot of people failed that test.
The government failed that test, the Biden administration horrifically. So
and so yes, I think that we're we're re orienting
our thinking about immigration, where yes, we're allowed to tell
people they can and can't come here, and yes we're
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allowed to pick who can and can come here based
upon what kind of a person they are, what they believe,
what kind of contribution they will make. It's not supposed
to be just whoever shows up, whoever's in walking distance
of the border gets to stay here. So that is
a big change. Now let's get into some of the
defense here of the macmood Khalil. Here is his attorney,
(25:44):
Donna Lieberman and her Look, she's his attorney, So you're
going to hear the stuff that an attorney would say.
Play thirteen.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He's being charged with having ideas and speaking out about them,
ideas that the government disapproves of. And really that's all
there is to it. This is a targeted, retaliatory and
extreme attack on the right of free expression. It's a
legal concept from this administration, but it has no basis
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in law, and it has no basis in under a
constitution that protects the right of free speech. The First
Amendment protects everybody in the country.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, but if you're here on a visa, we can
pull your visa. Right. So they're not saying, hey, we're
going to lock you up for twenty years for saying
things we didn't like. They're saying, you know what, you're
a jerk, and we're making you go home. And again
I could be wrong, but my understanding of it is,
and certainly Secretary of Rubio and Vice President Vance and
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many others have spoken out on this is government can
do that. Government can say, hey, it's been real, buddy,
but you get to go back now. And this is
where I think this is likely eventually to wind its
way through the core. Interesting. I wonder how high up
this will go, but it could go to the Supreme Court.
But I think eventually the courts will find in favor
(27:06):
of the administration. Again, assuming my read of the statutes
involved here is correct. I mean, that's certainly the position
that the Trump administration is taking. Absolutely, if this guy
was a US citizen, to be clear, if Mahmud Khalil
was a US citizen, this would absolutely be unconstitutional and
(27:28):
illegal to arrest him, and all this other stuff just
based on speech. See what this is what was confusing
in the early days. The people were saying, oh, well,
he was involved in violent protests and destruction of property,
and he should have been charged with crimes. Okay, if
he commits crimes, then you can arrest him when you
charge him with those crimes. But they're not actually, as
(27:50):
far as I have seen, charging him with crimes. They
are saying, you're a guest and we're sick of you
because you're annoying and you say bad thing, go home,
different thing. So we have these these separate and this
has been my understanding of it up to this point.
Oh oh, we got more from the attorney or this
has cut fourteen Donald Lieberman saying they've kidnapped this guy.
(28:11):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
They kidnapped this man, this young student father to be
in any minute now, based on an accusation that he
has the wrong political ideas and he has expressed them.
And this isn't just about him. This is a shot
across the bow. This is a message to every university
in the country. This is a message to every member
(28:33):
of the faculty in any university, to all the students.
It's an attempt to bully the universities into submission. It's
an attempt to bully and intimidate students from speaking out,
faculty from speaking out, and it's an attempt to bully
the rest of us into being quiet and going with
the administration's program.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You see, that's just not true because the rest of
us who are citizens aren't bothered by this at all, because,
as I said, and it wouldn't. This guy is the
stuff that he says, destroying lesson of civilization, being on
the side of Hamas you know, I despise all of that,
and I try to devote my professional life to countering
that here on this program. But if he were an
(29:12):
American citizen, the things that he said would not be
enough unless I'm missing something, would not be enough for
an arrest and any kind of a charge. But this
is about immigration law. This is not about speech law
per se or violation of some kind of a criminal statute.
(29:35):
So you know, it's an interesting case in that respect,
and the administration, the Trump administration, is taking an aggressive
stance on it. And like I said, I wanted all
of us to be clear because you have to remember
that there will be a Democrat president at some point
and they will use this too, because no one's ever
done this for in my knowledge, at least in living memory,
(29:55):
I don't think anyone's ever done this before. But now
this is a this is a precedent that has been
so you know, we're gonna have to live with it.
And maybe that's a that's a good thing. Well, it's
a good thing as long as the people in charge
are pulling visas of those who are truly radicals and
heinous and and attack our way of life with their ideas.
(30:17):
But remember Democrats will say that about people who don't
use proper pronouns. So that's the this becomes the issue
for it, and this is why it's important. Elections have
Elections have consequences. Elections have consequences, including apparently Rosie O'Donnell
going to Ireland. A reporter this is pretty funny. Actually
(30:37):
this is the Oval office. A reporter has asked the
Irish PM, because there was a meeting with Trump and
the and the Prime Minister of Ireland, why would you
let Rosie O'Donnell. I'm sorry, The reporter asked the Irish
PM about it, and then Trump weighs in on the
Rosie move to Ireland played twenty one.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Carlan is known for very happy, fun, loving people, great actions.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Getting in this room right now that I've met Why
the world would you let Rosie o'donald move to our
It's just going to lower your happiness low.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I like that question. You know who she is? You
better knowing, you're better off not knowing.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, Trump and Rosie O'donnald's log standing feud. I mean,
it's kind of just funny. They don't like each other
and they've gone after each other in the press. But
hopefully for Rosie's sake, they don't have some statute in
Ireland where if you just have terrible ideas and uh
and are too trump de range, you get sent you
get sent out of Ireland to America or whatever kind
(31:37):
of I think she's trying to get citizenship there, so
she's got some work to do on it. But you'll
notice other countries have their own set up, their own
rules about this, and that's just the way it is.
It's it's only America where everyone around the whole world
seems to be it seems to think they have the
right to have an opinion and a say in what
(32:00):
our immigration policies are you know, being in America is
a privilege, not a right, and unless you're a citizen,
and so this is a return to that baseline. Thinking
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
All right, we're.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Closing up shop on Clay and Buck. Was an honor
to get to hang with you this week and cover
things a solo while Play was on vacation. Really enjoy
getting every day every day doing this show is such
a privilege, and it's really I love my job, Clay
loves his job. We love doing this show, and so
thank you for being here here this week. We've got
(33:54):
some exciting news about some new affiliates that have been
joining up as well. I want to just say welcome
to all of them. We are very excited to be
able to speak to your audiences. There are dozens of
them that have joined, so we I won't name them
all right now because off the top of my head,
that's going to be kind of a long list, which
is a high class, high class problem. But you know,
this weekend, I'm doing something pretty interesting. I'm going to
(34:16):
be heading out to heading out to North Carolina to
do some training with my brothers and DJ Shipley, who
is a decorated former Seal Team six operative who we
will be spending some time just going through tactics and all.
(34:37):
We're basically showing up saying, DJ, teach us as much
as you can this weekend about about guns, about tactics,
about shooting, about marksmanship, you know, about self defense, about
room clearing. I mean, you know, whatever we've got time for.
We're just showing up ready to go. And so I'll
let you I'll let you know how that is next
week when I get a chance to after I've gotten
(34:59):
a chance to see for my But it's really it's
fun also to spend some time with the brothers. You know,
I have a baby coming in less than a month now,
and so the weekends where I can just take off
with with the guys, with my two brothers, and just
go and shoot a lot and work on marksmanship and
work on those those basics of firearm skills. It might
(35:20):
be a little tougher, I might have a lot more
diaper changing and things like that in my future, but
that will be a huge blessing and I am looking
forward to that too. I will say, it is remarkable
how hard it is to install these car seats in
the back of cars. I don't know how many of
you have felt the same way about this. I know
a lot of you are parents, a lot of your grandparents,
(35:41):
a lot of you have plenty of kids. But there's
got to be a better way, you know, There's got
to be an easier way than what we've got going on.
You gotta like slide through the and you got anchors
and you got to slide this. This stuff should be
so much easier in my mind than it really is.
So oh oh, that's a great idea producer Ali is saying,
(36:03):
leave me talkback baby advice this weekend and we'll get
to some of it next week. So on the talkback app,
or rather on the talkback feature on the iHeart radio app,
you can send us remember those are like voicemails, so
you don't have to if you want to call live
on hold. We love our live callers on the phone,
but if you don't want to hold, you just want
to send in your message. You do that and it
(36:24):
goes into us and we all hear it, and I
certainly see see or hear every talkback. We can't get
to all of them on the air, but we'll get
to as many as we can. So baby advice by
all means, send it my way and I'll let you
know how training goes this weekend. Trying to work on
my skills, just trying to learn, trying to understand more
about you know, trying to learn from the best, honestly,
(36:47):
and that's that's why we made this weekend happen with
the DJ Shiffley. So we'll tell you about that and
Clay's back with me on Monday. Talk to you then,
Shield Hig
I'll come back in the third hour of play and
(00:01):
Buck on this lovely Friday. I appreciate you being with us.
Our friend Tutor Dixon joins us now. Tutor is, of
course the host of the Tutor Dixon Show on the
play in Box podcast network, and she is up in
her home state of Michigan right now. She's in Bay City,
in fact, and a fellow by the name of jd
Vance is in your neighborhood today, Tutor, you guys are
(00:24):
hanging out. What's going on up there? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Absolutely. He and Kelly Leffler, who is the administrator of
the small business is in Washington. She's out here today
as well. So they are coming to a small business
in Michigan called Vantage Plastics, and we are headed into
the building in a few minutes here to see them
speak about the importance of manufacturing in Michigan. That was
(00:47):
a big promise from Donald Trump on the campaign trail,
and he is following through to make sure that he
is taking care of Michigan manufacturers and the workers here
in the state of Michigan. And we could not be
more excited to have them back here in the state.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So what can be done by the Trump administration, perhaps
JD as point man on some of some of these
policy items. What can be done to get manufacturing up
and running in the kind of increases that Donald Trump
wants and has promised.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think he's been very clear that he is going
to make sure that we don't have these competitors from
for example, China coming in. If you saw what happened
in Germany, the Volkswagen factories all closed down because the
Chinese electric pickles came to Germany and took over. And
he's been very clear that he's going to make sure
that things are American made and that American cars are
(01:39):
still number one in the country. That's very important here
in the state of Michigan. Obviously, we are the state
that put the world on wheels. We want to make
sure that we continue to have auto manufacturing in the
United States and centered right here in the state of Michigan.
And so not only has he focused on that, but
those these tariffs that we are talking about as well,
that's also going to draw back American manufacturers and manufacturing
(02:03):
in America, which will ultimately help all of our Tier one,
Tier two, and Tier three suppliers here in the state
of Michigan, and that's what we want to make sure
we beef up because we are really struggling in the
state to make sure that we are supplying enough jobs
for the people in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So it sounds like when you're talking to people up
there who are in manufacturing, are they enthusiastic about Trump's
tariff specifically as they pertain to Canada or is there
one country that you hear about more than the others
right now? Because tariffs is getting a lot of attention
this week. So what are you hearing from people who
are trying to actually make stuff here at home in America?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Up in Michigan, the people if Michigan came out strong
for Donald Trump. They believe in what he's doing. When
I talk to them, they're like, yes, this is why
I voted for him. I trust what he's doing. I
know that he knows he understands the art of the deal,
he understands negotiations, he understands when he has the level bridge.
They're not concerned about all the fear mongering they're hearing
(03:03):
from the left because they know that they need a
change here in the state, especially in this state. I mean,
if you look at us, We're forty first in the
nation in almost every category. If something doesn't change in Michigan,
I mean, really, who's going to be the last person
to turn out the lights on the way out the door.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It's a remarkable set of circumstances up there. And I
also want to know. Tell me what happened with Pete
Buddha Judge running for Senate in Michigan. It lasted like
a day and then I am told, is he even
a Michigan guy? I don't even know. I knew he
was in South Bend, Indiana, which is close by, as
the mayor. But what happened to Mayor Pete? I thought
(03:42):
he was going to make a run for it up there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Well, Mayor Pete did win one election in his lifetime,
so he believes that he will be able to win
the presidency apparently now. But he was looking at the
Senate because he moved to Michigan about four years ago.
He moved to Traverse City, and I suspect that he
was looking at the Senate race. And yet there are
a lot of people here who've lived in Michigan for
(04:06):
almost their whole lives, if not their whole lives who
would like to have the Senate seat on the Democrat side,
and I suspect that some of these women said to him, no,
you step aside. But then he's saying, well, people were
saying he'd have a better chance at the presidency if
he didn't have one run right after the other. Give
me a break. We know exactly what happened. He's a
failed transportation secretary. He knows that he cannot explain what's
(04:30):
happening in transportation today. That goes right back to his record.
He knows that running or being the mayor of South
Bend is not going to move people in the state
of Michigan to put him out there as one of
our senators. And he's a radical. He's not only that
at his job, he's a radical. He doesn't fit the
state of Michigan. So I think people went to him
and said, hey man, this is not your time. And
(04:51):
he believes, for some reason that he can run for president.
And I look forward to watching the matchup of Big
Gretch and Mayor Pete together from Michigan again on the
stage trying to go up against the Republicans. I think
it'll be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
We're speaking of we're speaking to our friend Tutor Dixon,
who's got the Tutor Dixon podcast. You Read My Mind
with Gretchen Whittmer. Next up here on our list of
things to discuss. How is she doing statewide and approval ratings?
Where does she fall? You think in this you've probably
seen Gavin Newsom making a big play for the big
(05:27):
Democrat slot right meaning no one is going to be
running in a primary right now, but people are already
thinking about who is going to be and who are
who the front runners would be on the Democrat side.
Gretchen Whitmer and all this does how does she factor
in it? I mean, let's just get to this. Is
she running for president in the next cycle?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You think, oh, I have no doubt. I mean, Gretchen
Whitmer is generally well. She has historically always been running
for the next seat while she's in the one that
she currently is elected to. And she's not doing the job,
as you can see by us being the forty first
the nation in almost every category. But her approval ratings
stay high because she refuses to speak to the media,
(06:07):
and the media in Michigan lets her get away with
it because she's a Democrat. She puts out these videos
that are filled with why saying that the state is
in great shape, but if you look at the numbers,
the state is in horrible condition. The one thing that
will be her downfall is that she's never had a
strong opponent with financial the financial ability to prove how
(06:28):
bad she is. And I say that as one of
her of her former opponents. There is so much that
needs to be exposed about Gretchen Whitmer on the presidential stage.
She cannot she would not be able to survive her
own record, but I look forward to her trying to
do it with her little videos of dorito communions and
things like that. I just don't think that's going to
(06:48):
play well for the entire nation.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, what was that all about the dorito communion thing?
I remember that now. It feels like it was years ago,
but it wasn't that long ago. She was What was
the point of that? Again? I just remind me about
this one because I remember looking at this video on
X and thinking that is very weird.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
She went through this strange phase of having I think
she had a very young social media team that was
telling her all of these videos were very cool and
there had been strange videos where she was talking to
a potato and all of these bizarre AI videos. But
then the last one that she did, and this was
really the last cringey video she did. She had a
(07:28):
girl on her knees in front of her and she
was feeding her dorito's and they were The look on
their faces was very awkward, and everybody went, what in
the world, And it made the Catholics so mad they
went and protested outside of her house. How could you
treat the Catholics like this? I mean it was really
such an unforced error on her entire and she wasn't
(07:50):
campaigning why she was campaigning for Kamala Harris. It was
the same week that Kamala Harris did blue Off the
Al Smith dinner and did thee Mary Catherine Gallagher skit.
I mean, this is like the best way for Democrats
to make every Catholic in the country mad, and I
think they effectively did. And I really say that she
had a major She played a major role in them
(08:11):
losing that election because of what she did with Catholics
that week.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yes, it's it has been quite a quite a journey
for gretchor Wimmer. I still am amazed that she hasn't
even been held accountable for the COVID situation. But I
guess that's not going to happen. Maybe it will if
she runs for president. How are you feeling about how
things are going with with doje Elon and cleaning up
the swamp? What's your take on that as somebody who's
(08:36):
had to look at I'm sure Michigan has some swampiness
to clean up, but nationwide doge Elon, they're looking at it.
How do you think it's.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Going There's no better sign that it's going well than
the Democrats completely freaking out about it. I mean, AOC
is saying she's going to primary Schumer because he's going
to go along with the cr that is going to
give Elon more power. I mean, they're obsessed. They're obsessed
with him because he is exposing the waste, fraud and abuse,
(09:04):
and the fact that they can't possibly step back and say, well, hey,
we do believe there needs to be cuts, we'd like
to see it a different way, or we'd like to
see this happen. They can't even logically look at it.
They just go into complete meltdown mode that there are
any cuts at all. That's unreasonable. And when you see
someone have a completely unreasonable reaction, you realize there's something
(09:26):
that they're hiding. And this is a very good program.
Elon Musk is doing an incredible job, and they're terrified
of it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, you have a few things happening simultaneously with
these cuts. One of them is the Department of Education
had a whole bunch of people told that their services
are no longer needed, and now we are told that
by the New York Times. I talked about this yesterday,
that because those people aren't around, we won't have the
best number crunchers to tell us how the school systems
(09:58):
are doing in different states. You know, so the federal
government has to just sit there and have people that
are hovering and crunching numbers to tell you that states
are feeling I assume, just taking Michigan as an example,
there's a lot that could be improved within the school system,
a lot of waste and a lot of nonsense.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Forty first in education as well. That's what we have
to boast about. So when people say, well, my goodness,
what will we do if the Department of Ed isn't
there to tell us how bad we are. Actually, we'd
like to see phonics in schools. We'd like to see
kids reading. We know in the state of Michigan that
the kids who can't read almost always end up in prison.
(10:35):
We know that that's the case across the board, and
yet we're more concerned about whether or not there are
number crunchers in Washington, DC, rather than whether or not
the teachers in the classroom are getting the right information
to get to the students. That we have the best
public schools in the world. I mean, that shouldn't even
be a question for Americans. Americans should be saying every day,
(10:57):
why the heck would America not have the best schools
in the entire world? And the minute we see one slipping,
why wouldn't we just completely go crazy about the thought
of our kids not having the best possible education. There
is no there's no reason for us to accept anything
less than perfection when it comes to education in the
(11:18):
United States of America. And yet the fact that you
see Democrats every day saying, just keep funneling money into
a bunch of people who have had zero success. I
mean it's like you look at California, You've got what
a billion dollars that goes into homelessness in San Francisco,
in LA and yet you have the worst homelessness problem
(11:38):
in the entire country and you continue to funnel money
into it. At a certain point you say, man, homelessness
at poor education. These have all become industries and then
of themselves that thrive on failure. We can no longer
allow government to thrive on failure.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Tudor Dixon, everybody, tutor, have a great time at the
event today with the Vice President J d. Vance. Give
him regards from Clay and Buck to him. He should
come hang out with us soon and thank you for
being here, and everyone should go check out your podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1 (13:57):
Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. We talked about
this the week. You had a member of Congress who
didn't want to play the game where you have to
say the wrong pronoun for a person because that's what
they demand. They tell you that's the nice thing to do.
You got to use the wrong pronoun or the improper.
Incorrect is actually the way to think of it, the
incorrect pronoun for somebody. You have to be a part
(14:20):
of the delusion that somebody is actually a female when
they're not.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Takes us to the conversation with Representative McBride formerly Tim
now Sarah. So Sarah McBride is a guy, and this
got a lot of attention because a member of Congress
just wasn't going to do it. I mean, it wasn't
going to play the game refusal, he said, mister McBride
(14:50):
or congressman. I think it was Congressman McBride, he said.
And now you'll notice this is the strategy that I've
told you about so many times. They try, meaning the left,
the people promoting the trans agenda, they try to tell
you that you have to say it the following way, right,
(15:10):
like you must do this, you must obey me. And
when we say hold on a second, I don't want
to do that because that makes me a liar, and
I don't want to lie. I want to live not
by lies. Soulzanitsen. So this is where you see the
strategy work. And now that that exchange has happened, Congressman
(15:33):
McBride is saying, it's just another version of this. It's
why are you so obsessed with this? Why are you
obsessed with me? I hear, I live rent free in
the minds of my Republican colleagues. Play five.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I appear to live rent free in the minds of
some of my Republican colleagues. I wish that they would
spend even a fraction of the time that they spend
thinking about me thinking about how to lower the costs
for American families. I wish they would spend a fraction
of the time that they spend thinking about me figuring
out how to make government actually work better, rather than
making it work worse in order to prove that government
(16:07):
can't work. They are obsessed with culture war issues. The
Republican Party is obsessed with cultural war issues. It is
weird and it is bizarre, and the American people deserve
serious legislators, serious elected officials who are focused on bringing.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
People together to deliver real results.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
For the American people, not to play games and not
to engage in school yard taunts.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We're obsessed. You're a dude who says he's a chick
and you're in the United States Congress and you want
people to go along with it. No, this is notice,
this is what happens. Do what I say or else. No,
I'm not going to because you're telling me that I
have to lie and I have to be a part
of this. Why are you so obsessed with this? Why
(16:51):
is it such a big deal to you? Why is
it such a big deal to you? If you know
you're a woman, fine be it. You know, create this
thing in your head you're a woman. But people are
gonna call you mister, and it's gonna say mail on
your driver's license. And that's the way society is going
to function and be orderly because we can't all be
a part of someone's lie. That's a very straightforward situation.
(17:13):
You want to grow your hair long, you wanna call
yourself Sarah, Fine, you're a free human being. You do
all that, that's fine, but you don't get to make
us say, you know what you're actually you're actually a lady.
You're actually a lady, and you certainly can't say this
is a big deal to me. You have to obey
my rules. And then when we say no, you go,
why why are you so into this? Why why do
(17:35):
I live red free? In your heads? The whole thing
is preposterous. But they're gonna keep doing this. They're gonna
keep slamming this issue. They will not back away from
it because they have built the whole infrastructure of lunacy
around this. And so just get ready for it. Now
we've described the tactic. You will see it time and
time again. They'll try to pass legislation that says a
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guy's actually a girl and or you have to treat
them like it, and we'll say no. And then they'll say,
why you have passing legislation about this? Or why are
you fighting about this in congress? So disingenuous, really childish.
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a lot of talks still about this Mahmood Khalil character
who is facing deportation. And this has got a lot
of people fired up because I think it goes There's
a couple things that intersect, a couple of different issues
here that all come together. One is that the anti
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Semitic campus stuff where you had people who were taking
the side of Hamas, which is a designated terrorist organization,
which is a vicious, vile and disgraceful entity, and anyone
associated with it is also vicious, vile and disgraceful. Anyone
who defends it is being all those things as well,
(19:48):
And so people have just had enough. But also it
goes to I think the broader conversation when it comes
to it. So there's the anti Semitic part of it,
and people are rightly just find that abhorrent. And and
then there's because remember, if it was about humanity, saving
human beings, you know, doing the right thing, don't don't
we think that these campus protests could have happened for
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a whole lot of other things as well. Why just
this issue? You know, right where are the campus protests
over the Christians who are being massacred, you know, mutilated
and executed on the streets of Damascus right now? Because
a Jiehattist Muslim terror group is now the de facto
government of Syria. You know, where are the protests about that? Now?
(20:32):
There are none? Of course, we know that there's not
going to be anybody who's paying attention to that issue
from the American left. It's only when there are Jews
involved in Israel involved that suddenly there is a a
an outrage that has to spill out onto the streets
and people have to become so so furious about this
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and and break laws too. Remember when you're talking about
destroying property, when you're talking about threatening people, menacing people,
salt and battery, there are laws against this stuff. And JD.
Vance addressed this, he said, look, and this is what Again,
my initial position on this was, I just want clarity
on what the authority is and what the violation is
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and what they've told us, because I always want that
right because we are a nation of laws. And if
the authority is you're here as a guest and the
government can just decide you gotta go, and that truly
is in statute and that is a statutory authority. Great,
this guy should go see you later. Now, I do
remind everybody that there will be a Democrat president at
(21:37):
some point, and there might be some people, there might
be some dissidence in this country. Let's say, I mean
I brought up the idea of South African you know,
South African asylum or you know, yeah, asylum seekers showing
up here and talking about what's going on with them
in South Africa. That may be stuff that the Left
doesn't want to hear. Well, if they're on a visa
(21:57):
or if they're on a green cart, they can be
expelled to and can't say anything about it. Right, So
just we need to understand what the rules are. The
rules as we've as it's been laid out now show
us that you're allowed to just send somebody packing if
they're a visit in the country. Jade Vance, vice president
of Vance. Here he is cut twelve speaking about how, yeah, man,
you don't have a right to be here if you're
(22:18):
not an American play A.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Green card holder, even if I might like that Green
card holder doesn't have an indefinite right to be in
the United States of America, right, American citizens have different
rights from people who have Green cards, from people who
have student visas. And so my attitude on this is
this is not fundamentally about free speech, and to me, yes,
it's about national security, but it's also more importantly about
(22:40):
who do we as an American public decide gets to
join our national community. And if the Secretary of State
and the President decide this person shouldn't be in America and.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
They have no legal right to stay here.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, there you go. That is the authority, that is
the rule. And this is taking us back to an
earlier era. You go back and look at immigration, and
first of all, within our laws already on the books
for things like visas. You go back and you look
at what was happening at the turn of the twentieth century.
(23:12):
A big concern for us was communism and people coming
into this country with socialist slash communist ties ideas and
wanting to foment communist revolution in America. And I know
now people dismiss this stuff and say, was that ever really?
Oh no, it was a big deal. And communism anarchism
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as well, they're different. But you had a period where
you had communist anarchists and socialists from call it roughly,
you know, eighteen ninety into the nineteen twenties, and that
was a big concern, and it was an issue for
immigration purposes as well. And I think that even when
you go get a security clearance, you know, they ask
you and they say, you know, have you ever been
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a part of a group that tries to overthrow the
United States. It's I think it's reasonable that we don't
want those people coming into the country or getting a
security clearance. And I think that people who have an
espouse ideology that is clearly at odds with or is
hostile to our way of life are are subject to deportation. Now,
you could say, what about Americans who feel that way?
(24:18):
A lot of Democrats maybe who feel that way, just
throwing it out there, but what about Americans who feel
that way? That is the price we pay for free speech,
is that you can have a lot of Americans who
say things that we really really hate, but they're allowed
to They're allowed to have ideas that other Americans hate.
In fact, and this is this is really a cliche
now because everyone's heard it so many times. But if
(24:39):
you won't protect speech that is offensive to a lot
of people in this country, you aren't You aren't actually
protecting free speech. I don't need free speech when it
comes to the government leaving me alone to discuss the weather.
I did need free speech when it came to telling
people that the government was wrong about vaccine mandates and
(25:00):
about masks and about lockdowns, for example during COVID. Then
free speech matters, and a lot of people failed that test.
The government failed that test, the Biden administration horrifically. So
and so yes, I think that we're we're re orienting
our thinking about immigration, where yes, we're allowed to tell
people they can and can't come here, and yes we're
(25:22):
allowed to pick who can and can come here based
upon what kind of a person they are, what they believe,
what kind of contribution they will make. It's not supposed
to be just whoever shows up, whoever's in walking distance
of the border gets to stay here. So that is
a big change. Now let's get into some of the
defense here of the macmood Khalil. Here is his attorney,
(25:44):
Donna Lieberman and her Look, she's his attorney, So you're
going to hear the stuff that an attorney would say.
Play thirteen.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
He's being charged with having ideas and speaking out about them,
ideas that the government disapproves of. And really that's all
there is to it. This is a targeted, retaliatory and
extreme attack on the right of free expression. It's a
legal concept from this administration, but it has no basis
(26:15):
in law, and it has no basis in under a
constitution that protects the right of free speech. The First
Amendment protects everybody in the country.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, but if you're here on a visa, we can
pull your visa. Right. So they're not saying, hey, we're
going to lock you up for twenty years for saying
things we didn't like. They're saying, you know what, you're
a jerk, and we're making you go home. And again
I could be wrong, but my understanding of it is,
and certainly Secretary of Rubio and Vice President Vance and
(26:45):
many others have spoken out on this is government can
do that. Government can say, hey, it's been real, buddy,
but you get to go back now. And this is
where I think this is likely eventually to wind its
way through the core. Interesting. I wonder how high up
this will go, but it could go to the Supreme Court.
But I think eventually the courts will find in favor
(27:06):
of the administration. Again, assuming my read of the statutes
involved here is correct. I mean, that's certainly the position
that the Trump administration is taking. Absolutely, if this guy
was a US citizen, to be clear, if Mahmud Khalil
was a US citizen, this would absolutely be unconstitutional and
(27:28):
illegal to arrest him, and all this other stuff just
based on speech. See what this is what was confusing
in the early days. The people were saying, oh, well,
he was involved in violent protests and destruction of property,
and he should have been charged with crimes. Okay, if
he commits crimes, then you can arrest him when you
charge him with those crimes. But they're not actually, as
(27:50):
far as I have seen, charging him with crimes. They
are saying, you're a guest and we're sick of you
because you're annoying and you say bad thing, go home,
different thing. So we have these these separate and this
has been my understanding of it up to this point.
Oh oh, we got more from the attorney or this
has cut fourteen Donald Lieberman saying they've kidnapped this guy.
(28:11):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
They kidnapped this man, this young student father to be
in any minute now, based on an accusation that he
has the wrong political ideas and he has expressed them.
And this isn't just about him. This is a shot
across the bow. This is a message to every university
in the country. This is a message to every member
(28:33):
of the faculty in any university, to all the students.
It's an attempt to bully the universities into submission. It's
an attempt to bully and intimidate students from speaking out,
faculty from speaking out, and it's an attempt to bully
the rest of us into being quiet and going with
the administration's program.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
You see, that's just not true because the rest of
us who are citizens aren't bothered by this at all, because,
as I said, and it wouldn't. This guy is the
stuff that he says, destroying lesson of civilization, being on
the side of Hamas you know, I despise all of that,
and I try to devote my professional life to countering
that here on this program. But if he were an
(29:12):
American citizen, the things that he said would not be
enough unless I'm missing something, would not be enough for
an arrest and any kind of a charge. But this
is about immigration law. This is not about speech law
per se or violation of some kind of a criminal statute.
(29:35):
So you know, it's an interesting case in that respect,
and the administration, the Trump administration, is taking an aggressive
stance on it. And like I said, I wanted all
of us to be clear because you have to remember
that there will be a Democrat president at some point
and they will use this too, because no one's ever
done this for in my knowledge, at least in living memory,
(29:55):
I don't think anyone's ever done this before. But now
this is a this is a precedent that has been
so you know, we're gonna have to live with it.
And maybe that's a that's a good thing. Well, it's
a good thing as long as the people in charge
are pulling visas of those who are truly radicals and
heinous and and attack our way of life with their ideas.
(30:17):
But remember Democrats will say that about people who don't
use proper pronouns. So that's the this becomes the issue
for it, and this is why it's important. Elections have
Elections have consequences. Elections have consequences, including apparently Rosie O'Donnell
going to Ireland. A reporter this is pretty funny. Actually
(30:37):
this is the Oval office. A reporter has asked the
Irish PM, because there was a meeting with Trump and
the and the Prime Minister of Ireland, why would you
let Rosie O'Donnell. I'm sorry, The reporter asked the Irish
PM about it, and then Trump weighs in on the
Rosie move to Ireland played twenty one.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Carlan is known for very happy, fun, loving people, great actions.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Getting in this room right now that I've met Why
the world would you let Rosie o'donald move to our
It's just going to lower your happiness low.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I like that question. You know who she is? You
better knowing, you're better off not knowing.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, Trump and Rosie O'donnald's log standing feud. I mean,
it's kind of just funny. They don't like each other
and they've gone after each other in the press. But
hopefully for Rosie's sake, they don't have some statute in
Ireland where if you just have terrible ideas and uh
and are too trump de range, you get sent you
get sent out of Ireland to America or whatever kind
(31:37):
of I think she's trying to get citizenship there, so
she's got some work to do on it. But you'll
notice other countries have their own set up, their own
rules about this, and that's just the way it is.
It's it's only America where everyone around the whole world
seems to be it seems to think they have the
right to have an opinion and a say in what
(32:00):
our immigration policies are you know, being in America is
a privilege, not a right, and unless you're a citizen,
and so this is a return to that baseline. Thinking
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
Closing up shop on Clay and Buck. Was an honor
to get to hang with you this week and cover
things a solo while Play was on vacation. Really enjoy
getting every day every day doing this show is such
a privilege, and it's really I love my job, Clay
loves his job. We love doing this show, and so
thank you for being here here this week. We've got
(33:54):
some exciting news about some new affiliates that have been
joining up as well. I want to just say welcome
to all of them. We are very excited to be
able to speak to your audiences. There are dozens of
them that have joined, so we I won't name them
all right now because off the top of my head,
that's going to be kind of a long list, which
is a high class, high class problem. But you know,
this weekend, I'm doing something pretty interesting. I'm going to
(34:16):
be heading out to heading out to North Carolina to
do some training with my brothers and DJ Shipley, who
is a decorated former Seal Team six operative who we
will be spending some time just going through tactics and all.
(34:37):
We're basically showing up saying, DJ, teach us as much
as you can this weekend about about guns, about tactics,
about shooting, about marksmanship, you know, about self defense, about
room clearing. I mean, you know, whatever we've got time for.
We're just showing up ready to go. And so I'll
let you I'll let you know how that is next
week when I get a chance to after I've gotten
(34:59):
a chance to see for my But it's really it's
fun also to spend some time with the brothers. You know,
I have a baby coming in less than a month now,
and so the weekends where I can just take off
with with the guys, with my two brothers, and just
go and shoot a lot and work on marksmanship and
work on those those basics of firearm skills. It might
(35:20):
be a little tougher, I might have a lot more
diaper changing and things like that in my future, but
that will be a huge blessing and I am looking
forward to that too. I will say, it is remarkable
how hard it is to install these car seats in
the back of cars. I don't know how many of
you have felt the same way about this. I know
a lot of you are parents, a lot of your grandparents,
(35:41):
a lot of you have plenty of kids. But there's
got to be a better way, you know, There's got
to be an easier way than what we've got going on.
You gotta like slide through the and you got anchors
and you got to slide this. This stuff should be
so much easier in my mind than it really is.
So oh oh, that's a great idea producer Ali is saying,
(36:03):
leave me talkback baby advice this weekend and we'll get
to some of it next week. So on the talkback app,
or rather on the talkback feature on the iHeart radio app,
you can send us remember those are like voicemails, so
you don't have to if you want to call live
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but if you don't want to hold, you just want
to send in your message. You do that and it
(36:24):
goes into us and we all hear it, and I
certainly see see or hear every talkback. We can't get
to all of them on the air, but we'll get
to as many as we can. So baby advice by
all means, send it my way and I'll let you
know how training goes this weekend. Trying to work on
my skills, just trying to learn, trying to understand more
about you know, trying to learn from the best, honestly,
(36:47):
and that's that's why we made this weekend happen with
the DJ Shiffley. So we'll tell you about that and
Clay's back with me on Monday. Talk to you then,
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