June 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Media bias, immigration enforcement, and the evolving political landscape under President Donald Trump. The hour opens with breaking news that Elon Musk has issued a personal and public apology to President Trump following a controversial outburst on social media. Clay and Buck analyze Musk’s behavior, likening it to a public meltdown and subsequent walk-back, drawing parallels to pop culture moments. They explore the implications of Musk’s apology and the broader tensions between tech leaders and the Trump administration. The conversation then shifts to the firing—or more accurately, the non-renewal—of ABC News senior correspondent Terry Moran. The hosts dissect the media’s double standards and the illusion of journalistic neutrality, arguing that mainstream outlets like ABC News and CNN are deeply partisan despite their claims of objectivity. They speculate that Moran’s exit may have been a calculated move to rebrand himself as a martyr for free speech and a hero to the political left. Clay and Buck also revisit Moran’s recent interview with President Trump, highlighting the combative tone and the media’s ongoing hostility toward the administration. This segment underscores the broader theme of media manipulation and the collapse of trust in so-called “unbiased” news organizations. Tricia McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, joins the show to discuss the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration. She reveals that over 300 illegal aliens have been arrested in the past 72 hours, including individuals with serious criminal records. McLaughlin criticizes California leaders like Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass for downplaying violent riots and protecting criminal aliens, while affirming the administration’s commitment to law and order. The hosts emphasize the overwhelming public support for President Trump’s immigration policies, citing new polling data that shows the Democratic Party’s approval rating plummeting to just 21%. They argue that Democrats are out of touch with mainstream America and are clinging to outdated narratives that no longer resonate with voters. The hour concludes with a spirited debate about the future of the Democratic Party, the likability of figures like Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris, and the potential for a political realignment. Clay and Buck suggest that the Democratic brand is increasingly toxic, especially among young men, and predict that the party may need a Trump-like outsider to regain relevance in 2028. This episode is packed with high-impact political commentary, insider analysis, and unfiltered opinions, making it a must-listen for anyone following the 2024 election, media accountability, and the Trump administration’s policy agenda.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome ack In Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, Wednesday edition
of the program Final Hour. We are up in Washington,
d C. We are going to be tomorrow with President Trump.
We were out at Langley today. We are meeting with
people trying to get the Marco Rubio interview set for tomorrow.
(00:22):
At some point it was schedules constantly shifting, many different
moving parts.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But let me hit you with the news of the day.
Off the top.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Elon Musk, according to the New York Times, which has
now been confirmed by the White House, called President Trump
on Monday and apologized for everything that he said last week.
And Buck, the analogy that I think I made on
the show is this reminds me of the George Costanza
which was based on Larry David, the George Costanza character,
(00:53):
where back in the day he quit Saturday Night Live
and had a huge fit and then the next yea yeah,
the next day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He just showed up like it never happened. And so
the right move.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I feel like Elon now after his meltdown last week.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Was it Thursday, Wednesday whatever it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Was last week? Uh, you were on, I was not on.
I think it was Thursday afternoon. If I'm not mistaken.
The meltdown happened more after we had finished the show
that day. Yeah, so there was about and then I
was off i think the next day, So there was
a little, a little cool down period, yes, because it
was really look, it was the it was the Epstein
tweet that everybody was like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know? That was we want to be upset over?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, Bill, Yeah, But the Epstein thing and the and
the reason I think that that actually was clarifying very
quickly was no, no serious person believes that if there
was any kind of there there about Epstein and Trump
that the Biden do OJ would have set on it
for four years. I mean, they were manufacturing crimes against Trump,
There's no So it just was incredible at all. But
(01:59):
it is what somebody who was just upset and childish
and hurt in the moment would say to somebody, I
should say, it's even beyond that, but it's it just
came across very quickly as just trying to be nasty
and not actually dealing with anything based in reality. So
that's why it was pretty easy to be like, all right,
he's going to come back from this and apologize it
(02:20):
just felt like he was having a public temper tantrum,
and now it is quite clear that that's what he did,
and he has apologized both to Trump privately and to
Trump publicly for what happened last week. So that is officially,
on some level, a finished story. And I think you
could predict both that Elon was going to get burned
(02:42):
out on government and also at some point lash out,
and also predict that eventually they would have some sort
of Reproachman, Can I throw something else into the mix
that I meant to mention at the top of the show.
This is another news item, not particularly important, not along
the line of the big issues we've been talking about,
but it does go toward the media and its sense
(03:03):
of what it really is right now, the news media.
So they've ABC News has fired senior national correspondent Terry
Moran after his expert we talked about Miller. Yeah, here's
here's the thing. What he wrote about Miller. Of course
it was it was gross, it was dumb. But my
problem is with anyone thinking that ABC News should get
(03:26):
away with pretending that it's still a news organization without
political bias, Like I just refuse to play this game.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Anymore so the fact that they're.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Firing somebody for violating standards of bias.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
More so than it's not about professional.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Conduct, really, it's oh, you showed everybody that you hate
the administration, and that's not okay. Everybody at ABC News
hates this administration. Everybody who's an executive over there wants
to see Trump get attacked on their channel night in
a night out. So I just don't like this pretense.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I have a kind of a different take on it
than a lot of people because I don't operate in
this world where.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh, ABC News is actually trying to be fair and
trying to be honest with it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Of course they're not right, so it will be like
I imagine CNN firing an anchor for not liking Trump.
Oh you don't like Trump. I've got an even more
uh subterfuge, subterranean theory on this. I don't think Terry
Moran is that big of a moron to put up
that post and not think there are consequences. But they,
(04:30):
if you read that, did that statement. They didn't actually
fire him. They're just not reupping his contract. I think
he got told that they were not re upping him
and or got offered way less money, and he was
angry at ABC News and he knew if he lashed
out that might make him a hero on the left
(04:51):
and look like he was a martyr for free speech,
which helps him going out into the marketplace. So I
actually think this was strategic. We know right now in
many of these television networks, many of these guys and
gals that you see on television have made tons of money,
and now as the cable in satellite bundle is starting
(05:13):
to collapse, guys and gals are getting offers that are
way less wherever they work.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And I think they came to Terry. This is my theory.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think ABC News came to Terry Moran and they said, Terry,
you're making I don't know, what are you thinking? Make
seven million, five million something like whatever, something like that,
and they said, hey, we're actually only going to pay
you a million and a half going forward. And he
lashed out. He was like, what are you talking about.
I'm the senior news call him whatever the heck is.
Title is senior national correspondent Clay now you know it,
(05:45):
And like nobody knows who this guy is. It doesn't
matter at all if he has a job.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Recall his name from before this, So so I think
that he decided to lash out and he knew that they.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Weren't re upping. But where does he go?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Who takes it to do some podcast or he's going
to try to argue to MSNBC that he's a hero
of the resistance now.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Maybe if he's in their choice to let him go.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Also, he doesn't have any on the beach period, so
to speak, where he can't go work somewhere else. And
we're getting really deep into this now, but I don't
I don't buy. I guess what I'm saying is I
agree with you that it's both ABC. It's preposterous that
ABC News acts like they don't hate it's it's ludicrous.
But also I don't like some people have been saying, oh, well,
he didn't know what the consequences would be on this.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think this is a calculated decision by him that
he thinks makes him more marketable going forward, because now
he's the resistance and he's a martyr. And if they
had just decided, hey, we're not re upping you, nobody
would have even noticed, like, if Terry Moran's not working
at ABC News, would we have ever mentioned his name.
I actually think I think he's dumber than you're giving
him credit for, or rather, I think he's less intelligent
(06:54):
than you're assuming based on this assessment. That's just such
a weird thing to decide to do, to attend Stephen
Miller in a way that's way over the top, even
for ABC News. It feels like it was calculated on
his part. Maybe he's just a total moron, And there's
certainly always arguments for people are morons, but guys like that,
the sniveling cowards, it seems to me, are always good
(07:18):
at preserving their jobs, and so I don't think he
would risk his job over principle in any way. And
so this feels to me like ABC News quietly told him, Hey,
either we're gonna pay you a lot less or you're leaving.
Who was the guy who did the big famous Princess
Diana interview. I think he got fired from MSNBC. Martin Basheer, Yeah,
I think right, he was fired from MSNBC for going
(07:41):
on a just grotesque and profane rant over at MSNBC.
I don't think you know, sometimes he's got clay. Sometimes
the lib is just an idiot. Well maybe so, but true.
I think if we'll see what happens with Terry Moran,
but it does not appear that he's going to be
back at ABC News. And there is some element here,
(08:03):
I will say of it appears to me a lot
of the ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC universe, the larger
corporate sphere, not the actual journalist in quotation marks, not
the actual journalist, but the larger corporate sphere. It does
feel to me like they are trying to be somewhat
(08:26):
on the corporate level fairer. In other words, there's been
the report out on ABC News that Bob Iger, the
CEO of Disney, went to the view and said, hey,
stop being insane, Yes, yes, stop saying Trump is actually Hitler. Yes,
not like Hitler, actually Hitler, the reincarnation of Hitler's people
are crazy. Stop forcing us to apologize publicly for defamatory state.
(08:48):
I love I miss it. I missed the Sonny hostin
hostage video she had to make. She was like, just
to be clear, Donald Trump has never actually been found
guilty of any sexual crime. It's like that's right, Sonny,
look right into the camera. Let's say it again, so
more times. I think that that probably factors in here.
And also, let me just say this, I can't believe
I'm gonna defend Terry Moran. He shouldn't have sent that tweet.
(09:10):
Obviously we like Steven Miller, but I also don't like
the precedent of firing people for sharing their real opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's what That's part of what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I just think the whole thing from ABC News is
so dishonest, and it's because they're clinging to the overall
fiction it is. It is a lie. It is a
falsehood that ABC News is a nonpartisan or unbiased news organization.
I don't want to give them that even big leaf anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I refuse to play.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's like with CNN, we're all past that, Yeah, right, CNN,
everyone got MSNBC. Yeah they're communists, but at least they
know they're communists. And by the way, I would say
this in general, I think we defended Whoopee when she
got suspended, didn't we? I think so we're so nice,
we're generous if you're on a show. When she gets
to spelled, was it for saying that Jews aren't erase
(10:02):
or something like that. Wasn't that stupid? Yeah, something like
that was it wasn't ethnic Jews weren't. I think what
she said is Jews weren't targeted for their ethnicity or
something like that. That was stupid in the death camps
or for World War I. It was stupid. But she's
on a show called The View. If one of us
says something stupid, which I'd like to think doesn't happen
very often, but.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Some of you may say, hey, you say stupid things
all the time time.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Some of them aren't buying your WNBA. I'm gonna beat
one on one. I'm just telling you there's some there's
some harsh words being thrown around. I don't think on
a show that exists for you to share your opinion,
which is actually called The View, there should be a
diversity of views on the View.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If one of them is a moron that they should
be fired or suspended for being a moron on an
opinion based show. I want more speech. So on the
Terry Moran thing. Yes, he's supposed to be a news
like neutral guy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All he did is remove the artific that he's unbiased.
He actually said what he does.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What I mean, we all knew that he thought this before,
just based on the fact that he's some he's some
guy who works at ABC News.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So it doesn't doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, Remember what you know, John Harwood, Remember that guy
who hosted a presidential debate a while ago. I was
very hostile toward Trump andever, and now he's on Twitter.
Look the collapse. He's on Twitter showing how much he
hates trumpet the time, the collapse of this of this
uh fraud, which is the unbiased news media.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
People say, well, what about you guys? We all we
do is share opinions. Yeah, there's there's no part of me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I don't sit here and I'm like, hey, this thing
happened in California, Clay with these riots. I don't have
an opinion on it, but let's talk like we are opinions.
Everyone knows where we come from on absolutely everything. It's
the only honest way to approach news. This whole thing.
I try to tell people this at the beginning of
the Republic. Go back the newspapers, you know, Benjamin Bach,
(11:58):
American Aurora, you know, the uh uh the all I'm
trying to think of like that. From the dawn of
the earliest newspapers, they were explicitly affiliated with political parties
and with candidates. They were everybody knew, you know, you
were a federalist or an anti federalist, or you were
a Democrat or a Republican. And then the twentieth century,
with mass media and maybe the dumbing down of media,
(12:20):
at some level, there was this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh, we're all just the news. It's just well.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I wrote about this a lot because I do think
it's super important what you're laying out. Claiming that your
non partisan as a newspaper is just a business strategy
to allow you to have the biggest possible audience. But
it only works I think if people believe at some
level that what you're doing is you have to play
it close enough to the line that it's plausible now see.
And I think that some of them did that for
(12:47):
a while, which was confused with being unbiased. They weren't
unbiased that by the way, this is the Jake Tapper routine,
trying to be just unbiased enough that you can claim
you're unbiased and not have people laugh in your face.
I think his routine is falling apart, by the way,
but that is what they.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Used to do. And then in the air of social media.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Because of stuff like Terry Moran's tweet, we all see
this for what it is now. By the way, radio
TV complicated this to a large extent because the platforms.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Reach to everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And so, I mean, for instance, they were so concerned
that somebody like us would end up president of the
United States that we couldn't run for political office and
do this show or a senator or a governor because
of FCC license rules. But meanwhile, you can do it now,
do any podcast that you want. Yeah, which is ridiculous,
which is I mean, like the whole concert, or you
can write a book. Let's play what did whoopee Goldberg got. Yeah,
(13:41):
well we'll find that. No, we don't have it. We
just had no, no, no, But we've got to play. Terry Moran,
it's just interviewed Trump on April twenty ninth, and got
into a back and forth because they were trying, let's
play that when we come back, because I'll do this
read here, and I don't want to blow through the comment.
But we got a couple of cuts to remind you guys,
it was only like six weeks ago that Terry Moran
(14:03):
was sitting in the Oval office claiming that he was
an unbiased member of the news media interviewing Donald Trump
and arguing with him about MS thirteen tattoos. We played
that on the cut for you, But just a reminder
because most of you probably have no idea who this
moron is Moran. Summer officially starts ten days from now.
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Coming up in a couple of minutes, we will be
talking to Trisian McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of the Department of
Home Land Security, about the riots and the possibility of
those riots spreading to other places, and we shall dive
into all of that. But Clay had mentioned this, we
had the team pull it. Terry Moran just got let go.
(16:12):
Non renewed. I think is actually a better that they're
saying fired, but it's really non renewed on his contract.
I believe Clay's that's right to your point. And here
he was back in April of this year, so not
back April, just like six weeks ago. End of April. Well,
we got two of these, let's let's do thirty two.
Here play it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I think he's going to be a very good defense
hopefully a great defense secretary, but it'll be very good
defense secretary. You have one hundred percent confidence in you'd
have one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay, anything? Do
I have one hundred percent? It's a stupid question. Look,
it's pretty important because I have no. No, no, you don't
have one hundred percent. Only a liar would say I
(16:55):
have one hundred percent confidence. I don't have one hundred
percent confidence that we're going to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, that's one of my favorite Trump moments from early
this year.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now I actually remember who this guy is. He was
the one who Trump was like, I gave you this interview.
You're a loser, and you're being a loser in the interview,
as I knew you would be, Like, that was what happened. Well,
which is why I think this had to be You
may be right. There's always an argument on the left
wing that these guys are such morons that they don't
even comprehend the consequences of their action.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I think ABC.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
News made him an insulting offer in his mind to continue,
and I think he said, I'm going to go out
in a blaze a glory. They're gonna suspend me, and
then I'll be a martyr and I'll go to MSNBC,
or I'll go to CNN, you know who. I think
there's very few people in the world who there's a
bigger gap between their talent and their self regard than
(17:47):
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(19:38):
Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Obviously a lot going on there, Tricia.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you watch the footage, and I'm sure you're watching
it on Fox News or CNN of the protests inside
of LA, what's your thought? What are you thinking as
you're watching that, sween I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Thinking multiple things. First of all, I'm so discussed by
these writers in which Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom continue
to call peaceful protests. But I'm also so proud of
our law enforcement in the face of such hatred, in
the face of taunting, in the face of violence, they're
being pummeled by rocks. They are so patriotic and professional
(20:18):
and staying with such dignity, and I think all Americans
can be so proud of them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Trusu, I appreciate you being with us. When are we
going to be able to get some data? Is it
really just collected on a monthly basis on the actual
numbers of people that have been taken into custody and
then deported under these operations like the one that got
these rioters so riled up in Los Angeles. Because I
(20:43):
think that that data speaks to the speed with which
the administration is moving and the seriousness with which they
are approaching this effort.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah. Absolutely. So we're north of three hundred in the
last seventy two hours for arrest of criminal legal alien.
So that includes molesters, rapists, convicted murders, parsness, multiple gang members.
These are the heinous individuals that Gavin Newsom and Karen
Bass and the ACLU and these rioters are trying to protect.
(21:12):
As our ice enforcement officers are putting themselves in harm's
way to get these criminal leagual aliens off of our streets.
And our message to protesters is we're only going to
ramp up. We are going to keep going. We're not
going to be to turned by their violence, and you
only see you arrest them or spike.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It seems that the overwhelming majority I've been looking at
the polling supports the idea of what President Trump and
your department are doing, which is arresting people who shouldn't
be here, particularly violent predators, and getting them outside of
the country. What is Gavin Newsom just already running for
president in your mind? I mean, he's already a failed
governor of California. We know Karen Bass is a failed mayor.
(21:53):
Presidents had to travel out there to talk about the
need to allow people to rebuild all over the LA
area for the wildfires that took down their homes. It
seems crazy to me that this would be the decision
of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But I'm looking right now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there
is a new poll out showing the Democrat Party approval rating.
This is from Quinnipiac. The Democrat Party has a twenty
one percent approval rating a seventy percent disapproval rating. This
just came out. They seem to just be intent on
opposing whatever Trump does, even if what President Trump is
(22:32):
doing is wildly popular.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right. They are desperate for
a message. They don't have one. They're just trying to
work the same trick and the same message that they
did in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. Their message
has been Trump's bad and January sixth bad. It's been
five years, guys, and the American people love Donald Trump.
They don't have a message, and they're really doubling down
on protecting these criminals on legal aliens. We know we
(22:57):
have the will of the American people. Donald Trump rand
on mass deportations and getting these criminal aliens off of
our streets, and that's exactly what he's delivering. So I
think there's some trench arrangement syndrome going on for sure,
and govin Newsom is doubling down on incompetent governance, and
I think that the polls are are going to not
(23:19):
look so great for him if he does defied to
run in a Democrat primary.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Christian McLoughlin, thank you so much for being with us
from DHS.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Let's you arrest up that voice.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I appreciate it. We're working hard.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you. Thanks for what you're doing. Clay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know I asked about the numbers. Now I'm seeing here. Actually,
Caroline Levitt addressed this from the podium in the White House.
Just in the last hour or two, three hundred and
thirty legal aliens arrested after they participated in the LA riots.
One hundred and thirteen of them had prior criminal convictions.
So you have illegal aliens with prior criminal convictions engaged
(23:54):
in criminal riot behavior at the efforts to deport illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
This is this is now.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The level of spoiled brattiness I think that we see
among some of these legal aliens. That's one way of
putting it, the entitlement. There we go, better word the entitlement.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Among these illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And Caroline also addressed from the press, you know, I
like this too, and taking a page out of Trump's book,
this has cut thirty. The White House Press Secretary Levitt,
when she's asked whether Trump supports peaceful protest play thirty.
So if there were peaceful protests on Saturday for the
gilitate hoarade, president Trump would allow that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Of course, the President supports peaceful protest.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What a stupid question, perfect way to handle that. I mean,
you know this is this is almost a when do
you stop beating your wife?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Question?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's like, well, does a president actually believe the First
Amendment matters at all? You know, I will say that
the press Corps Clay in a different era, the White
House Press Corps, I think, would have felt like this
was their moment to grandstand and make all these windy
speeches about how horrible it is to be deporting the
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illegal immigrants who are the you know, the salt of
the earth Americans that we need in the future or whatever.
And now they recognize that they don't have the cover
from the institutions that they represent, the news agencies, and
that they don't have a Democrat Party waiting to back
them up in the public, you know, in the public
sphere and public debates. So they're a little more timid
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than they have been in previous administrations.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, and look, I mean that that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Poll that I just shared with you from Quinnipiac. It's
important to note Quinnipiac is not Republicans are awesome dot
com polsters. They're somewhat of a middle of the road.
It's even a little bit left leaning poll group. And
when you're talking about Democrats consistently taking twenty and twenty
five percent popularity issues, I really feel like we are
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in an era right now where in the wake of
nineteen eighty nineteen eighty four. Let me make my historical
argument here. You can tell me if I'm crazy on this.
In many ways, Jimmy Carter was an accidental president, brought
on by Watergate. Because Watergate happened, Jimmy Carter got elected,
Inflation skyrocketed. He was an economic disaster. Ronald Reagan came
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in and Republicans won in eighty eighty four eighty eight,
and then Bill Clinton basically in ninety two, with Ross
Perot running, ran as a sort of new Democrat. Now,
you can argue about whatever you want about Democrats in
ninety two, but ninety two and in ninety six, Clinton
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ran as what would now be like Bill Clinton ninety
two and Bill Clinton ninety six. Leave away the sexual
shenanigans with the intern for a moment, and just look
at what he ended up working on once he got
wrecked in ninety four. He really ran that would be
a Republican platform. Now, then Bush wins two thousand, two
(27:01):
thousand and eight, two thousand and four. Again, Okay, my
point on that is Biden is Carter. Biden is Jimmy Carter.
The only reason he.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Got elected was COVID and they were able to hide him.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Trump would have won I think a landslide against Biden
in twenty twenty. And some of you are saying, Clay
he did well. Okay, I get used. But the reason
they were able to do all of the rigging, the
reason they were able to get all of the absentee ballots,
the male ballots eighty one point three million, should be
(27:34):
a joke for everybody out there. Okay, come on, I
wouldn't say that Bill Clinton ran on a Republican platform.
I'm saying his platform ninety two and ninety six. Now,
I mean, is pro choice assault weapons ban there's a
but he said abortion should be safe.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Legal, and rare.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
He balanced the budget, like go back and look at
it today in many ways would be able. Well, the
gay marriage issue, for example, is very different then, so
I think he signed the Defensive Marriage Act, right, So
that was just because the country was decidedly on that
was a Democrat and Republican issue. So the country has moved,
or at least the Democratic part. My point is the
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Democrat party. Bill Clinton said, we have to redefine what
the Democrat party is. Now you can dispute how much
he redefined it, but there was a recognition that the
Democrat brand was toxic and they lost every election effectively. Well,
he only won because of the Actroton Ross Barrow, so
he won with less than fifty percent of the vote,
and then he had a Republican Congress to contend with.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So what was he going to do? Nothing? Well, I
mean he tried. We knew he did some stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
In ninety four, he got absolutely crushed and we had
new giggrich On. We've talked about that before with him.
My point on it is, I think the Republican brand, sorry,
the Democrat brand is toxic, and I think it's the
most toxic with young men. They actually use as an insult. Now,
(29:03):
the idea that you might be a Kamala voter. I
just I remember what it was like being a Republican
in two thousand and nine after Obama absolutely wiped the
floor with war hero John McCain, and we were all
sitting around saying, the demographics are against us, this is
against us. I bring this up because yes, right now,
(29:25):
the brand and the messaging is toxic. Clay Kamala gets
two hundred and fifty thousand votes in a few places,
and all of a sudden, Kamala Harris, who is I
think certainly the dumbest person to run for president in
our lifetime. Yep, Kamala Harris would have been president. And
it wasn't that far even with the lie about Biden's dementia,
(29:46):
the disastrous So you know, right now it looks really good.
But this is why Trump this is the year man,
this is and he's doing it. He's doing it. This
is not a complaint, but running up the scoreboard and
getting as much done and as much accomplished as possible
now before the midterm, more of the midterms, and before
we start thinking about the next you really have eighteen
months to Trump has eighteen months to save the country,
and I think he's moving as fast as he can
(30:08):
on that. But a part of the of this is
that all you need are Democrats to start coming up
with some more compelling messaging on healthcare some of these
things that haven't really and that gap.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That combers is a horrible candidate. I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
If they ran somebody who was even a halfway decent candidate,
I still think Trump would have won. But the next
time around, if you voted for Kamala in this last election,
you will vote Democrat, no matter what Democrat. You could put,
like you know, any name on a screen and say
that's the Democrat and people would vote for it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You could put a mannequin, Yes, you could put a
non You can put it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If you could put a dementia pation in the oval offense,
I think you could vote for a mannequin. I think
their brand is toxic on a level that has never
existed in my life.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I think your triatholism is going too far this one.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
There there are a lot of insane see, because I've
lived in New York where people always saying, do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You really believe? Do you really believe that eighty percent
of people in New York vote Democrat?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And they will say suggest things like, oh, they must
be cheating in New York.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No, it is. It is true.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Eighty percent of New York City residents are Democrats who
vote like this is the reality. Look, I will say,
this is why I believe Democrats are going to have
to find their version of Trump. I don't think I'm
gonna make a prediction here. I don't think the Democrat
nominee in twenty twenty eight will be someone who is inelected.
(31:31):
So I had to take you out for a very
expensive stake because Biden unfortunately couldn't just pull off the
last leg of the con which he got very far. Okay,
Biden carried the ball of his conning the American people
to the five yard lines started. I can't say high
stepping because that would require balance, but was having a
tough time, so the ability to walk to walk, yes, so,
(31:51):
but he he was having a rough one and so
I took the heat on that. Okay, fine, even though
really for two years to say that Biden was going
to run seemed been saying, and he did run. But
Michelle Obama, you were part of the Michelle Obama is
going to run chorus?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Have you seen her?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You were gone this day and I wanted to I
don't want to bother you on your vacation. Have you
seen her on these podcasts?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Awful?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
She is absolutely horrible, and everybody who listens to hers like,
this woman is terrible. That was all a media creation,
all a fiction, correct, But my thought on that was
the only way you could avoid Kamala, who was also awful,
was by having another black woman. So now there's no
chance Michelle Obama is running in the future. I don't
(32:33):
think there's any way she's okay. I think she is
thoroughly unlikable because the stuff I as somebody who always
thought that she was this construct of the media in
these popsy I sit there, I'm like, this woman is
this I think a lot of Democrats honestly don't like
her anymore. She's got Megan Markele level authenticity and likability,
which is not a high level of likeability. By the way,
(32:57):
as you go to read this, you'll appreciate I walk
into the house. My wife hates Megan Markle so much.
She listens to British podcasts about how awful Megan Markle.
And this is funny because your wife and my wife
are in the Meghan Markele is the worst person in
the world club. And just separately they came to this conclusion.
And so I know, whenever I just want to terstcarry,
(33:19):
I think I sent her anyone trashing Meghan Markle and
she's just like, I walk in or I'm getting ready
for bed and there's like a British podcast and it's
just a complete a visceration. I'm like, what are you
listening to? It's just British people talking about how much
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Here.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
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She was physical and tough. But I think you could.
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they would toss you around like a rag doll play.
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That's what Dave's saying.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Basically, Dave said Angel was more of a man than me,
which is quite the attack, because then he said, I
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me inside and score. I would beat her head to head,
play in the low post. We gotta get this guy.
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Welcome ack In Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, Wednesday edition
of the program Final Hour. We are up in Washington,
d C. We are going to be tomorrow with President Trump.
We were out at Langley today. We are meeting with
people trying to get the Marco Rubio interview set for tomorrow.
(00:22):
At some point it was schedules constantly shifting, many different
moving parts.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But let me hit you with the news of the day.
Off the top.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Elon Musk, according to the New York Times, which has
now been confirmed by the White House, called President Trump
on Monday and apologized for everything that he said last week.
And Buck, the analogy that I think I made on
the show is this reminds me of the George Costanza
which was based on Larry David, the George Costanza character,
(00:53):
where back in the day he quit Saturday Night Live
and had a huge fit and then the next yea yeah,
the next day.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
He just showed up like it never happened. And so
the right move.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I feel like Elon now after his meltdown last week.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Was it Thursday, Wednesday whatever it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Was last week? Uh, you were on, I was not on.
I think it was Thursday afternoon. If I'm not mistaken.
The meltdown happened more after we had finished the show
that day. Yeah, so there was about and then I
was off i think the next day, So there was
a little, a little cool down period, yes, because it
was really look, it was the it was the Epstein
tweet that everybody was like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
You know? That was we want to be upset over?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, Bill, Yeah, But the Epstein thing and the and
the reason I think that that actually was clarifying very
quickly was no, no serious person believes that if there
was any kind of there there about Epstein and Trump
that the Biden do OJ would have set on it
for four years. I mean, they were manufacturing crimes against Trump,
There's no So it just was incredible at all. But
(01:59):
it is what somebody who was just upset and childish
and hurt in the moment would say to somebody, I
should say, it's even beyond that, but it's it just
came across very quickly as just trying to be nasty
and not actually dealing with anything based in reality. So
that's why it was pretty easy to be like, all right,
he's going to come back from this and apologize it
(02:20):
just felt like he was having a public temper tantrum,
and now it is quite clear that that's what he did,
and he has apologized both to Trump privately and to
Trump publicly for what happened last week. So that is officially,
on some level, a finished story. And I think you
could predict both that Elon was going to get burned
(02:42):
out on government and also at some point lash out,
and also predict that eventually they would have some sort
of Reproachman, Can I throw something else into the mix
that I meant to mention at the top of the show.
This is another news item, not particularly important, not along
the line of the big issues we've been talking about,
but it does go toward the media and its sense
(03:03):
of what it really is right now, the news media.
So they've ABC News has fired senior national correspondent Terry
Moran after his expert we talked about Miller. Yeah, here's
here's the thing. What he wrote about Miller. Of course
it was it was gross, it was dumb. But my
problem is with anyone thinking that ABC News should get
(03:26):
away with pretending that it's still a news organization without
political bias, Like I just refuse to play this game.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Anymore so the fact that they're.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Firing somebody for violating standards of bias.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
More so than it's not about professional.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Conduct, really, it's oh, you showed everybody that you hate
the administration, and that's not okay. Everybody at ABC News
hates this administration. Everybody who's an executive over there wants
to see Trump get attacked on their channel night in
a night out. So I just don't like this pretense.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I want to.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I have a kind of a different take on it
than a lot of people because I don't operate in
this world where.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh, ABC News is actually trying to be fair and
trying to be honest with it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Of course they're not right, so it will be like
I imagine CNN firing an anchor for not liking Trump.
Oh you don't like Trump. I've got an even more
uh subterfuge, subterranean theory on this. I don't think Terry
Moran is that big of a moron to put up
that post and not think there are consequences. But they,
(04:30):
if you read that, did that statement. They didn't actually
fire him. They're just not reupping his contract. I think
he got told that they were not re upping him
and or got offered way less money, and he was
angry at ABC News and he knew if he lashed
out that might make him a hero on the left
(04:51):
and look like he was a martyr for free speech,
which helps him going out into the marketplace. So I
actually think this was strategic. We know right now in
many of these television networks, many of these guys and
gals that you see on television have made tons of money,
and now as the cable in satellite bundle is starting
(05:13):
to collapse, guys and gals are getting offers that are
way less wherever they work.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And I think they came to Terry. This is my theory.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I think ABC News came to Terry Moran and they said, Terry,
you're making I don't know, what are you thinking? Make
seven million, five million something like whatever, something like that,
and they said, hey, we're actually only going to pay
you a million and a half going forward. And he
lashed out. He was like, what are you talking about.
I'm the senior news call him whatever the heck is.
Title is senior national correspondent Clay now you know it,
(05:45):
And like nobody knows who this guy is. It doesn't
matter at all if he has a job.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Recall his name from before this, So so I think
that he decided to lash out and he knew that they.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Weren't re upping. But where does he go?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Who takes it to do some podcast or he's going
to try to argue to MSNBC that he's a hero
of the resistance now.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Maybe if he's in their choice to let him go.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Also, he doesn't have any on the beach period, so
to speak, where he can't go work somewhere else. And
we're getting really deep into this now, but I don't
I don't buy. I guess what I'm saying is I
agree with you that it's both ABC. It's preposterous that
ABC News acts like they don't hate it's it's ludicrous.
But also I don't like some people have been saying, oh, well,
he didn't know what the consequences would be on this.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think this is a calculated decision by him that
he thinks makes him more marketable going forward, because now
he's the resistance and he's a martyr. And if they
had just decided, hey, we're not re upping you, nobody
would have even noticed, like, if Terry Moran's not working
at ABC News, would we have ever mentioned his name.
I actually think I think he's dumber than you're giving
him credit for, or rather, I think he's less intelligent
(06:54):
than you're assuming based on this assessment. That's just such
a weird thing to decide to do, to attend Stephen
Miller in a way that's way over the top, even
for ABC News. It feels like it was calculated on
his part. Maybe he's just a total moron, And there's
certainly always arguments for people are morons, but guys like that,
the sniveling cowards, it seems to me, are always good
(07:18):
at preserving their jobs, and so I don't think he
would risk his job over principle in any way. And
so this feels to me like ABC News quietly told him, Hey,
either we're gonna pay you a lot less or you're leaving.
Who was the guy who did the big famous Princess
Diana interview. I think he got fired from MSNBC. Martin Basheer, Yeah,
I think right, he was fired from MSNBC for going
(07:41):
on a just grotesque and profane rant over at MSNBC.
I don't think you know, sometimes he's got clay. Sometimes
the lib is just an idiot. Well maybe so, but true.
I think if we'll see what happens with Terry Moran,
but it does not appear that he's going to be
back at ABC News. And there is some element here,
(08:03):
I will say of it appears to me a lot
of the ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC universe, the larger
corporate sphere, not the actual journalist in quotation marks, not
the actual journalist, but the larger corporate sphere. It does
feel to me like they are trying to be somewhat
(08:26):
on the corporate level fairer. In other words, there's been
the report out on ABC News that Bob Iger, the
CEO of Disney, went to the view and said, hey,
stop being insane, Yes, yes, stop saying Trump is actually Hitler. Yes,
not like Hitler, actually Hitler, the reincarnation of Hitler's people
are crazy. Stop forcing us to apologize publicly for defamatory state.
(08:48):
I love I miss it. I missed the Sonny hostin
hostage video she had to make. She was like, just
to be clear, Donald Trump has never actually been found
guilty of any sexual crime. It's like that's right, Sonny,
look right into the camera. Let's say it again, so
more times. I think that that probably factors in here.
And also, let me just say this, I can't believe
I'm gonna defend Terry Moran. He shouldn't have sent that tweet.
(09:10):
Obviously we like Steven Miller, but I also don't like
the precedent of firing people for sharing their real opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's what That's part of what I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I just think the whole thing from ABC News is
so dishonest, and it's because they're clinging to the overall
fiction it is. It is a lie. It is a
falsehood that ABC News is a nonpartisan or unbiased news organization.
I don't want to give them that even big leaf anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I refuse to play.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's like with CNN, we're all past that, Yeah, right, CNN,
everyone got MSNBC. Yeah they're communists, but at least they
know they're communists. And by the way, I would say
this in general, I think we defended Whoopee when she
got suspended, didn't we? I think so we're so nice,
we're generous if you're on a show. When she gets
to spelled, was it for saying that Jews aren't erase
(10:02):
or something like that. Wasn't that stupid? Yeah, something like
that was it wasn't ethnic Jews weren't. I think what
she said is Jews weren't targeted for their ethnicity or
something like that. That was stupid in the death camps
or for World War I. It was stupid. But she's
on a show called The View. If one of us
says something stupid, which I'd like to think doesn't happen
very often, but.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Some of you may say, hey, you say stupid things
all the time time.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Some of them aren't buying your WNBA. I'm gonna beat
one on one. I'm just telling you there's some there's
some harsh words being thrown around. I don't think on
a show that exists for you to share your opinion,
which is actually called The View, there should be a
diversity of views on the View.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If one of them is a moron that they should
be fired or suspended for being a moron on an
opinion based show. I want more speech. So on the
Terry Moran thing. Yes, he's supposed to be a news
like neutral guy.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All he did is remove the artific that he's unbiased.
He actually said what he does.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
What I mean, we all knew that he thought this before,
just based on the fact that he's some he's some
guy who works at ABC News.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So it doesn't doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, Remember what you know, John Harwood, Remember that guy
who hosted a presidential debate a while ago. I was
very hostile toward Trump andever, and now he's on Twitter.
Look the collapse. He's on Twitter showing how much he
hates trumpet the time, the collapse of this of this
uh fraud, which is the unbiased news media.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
People say, well, what about you guys? We all we
do is share opinions. Yeah, there's there's no part of me.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I don't sit here and I'm like, hey, this thing
happened in California, Clay with these riots. I don't have
an opinion on it, but let's talk like we are opinions.
Everyone knows where we come from on absolutely everything. It's
the only honest way to approach news. This whole thing.
I try to tell people this at the beginning of
the Republic. Go back the newspapers, you know, Benjamin Bach,
(11:58):
American Aurora, you know, the uh uh the all I'm
trying to think of like that. From the dawn of
the earliest newspapers, they were explicitly affiliated with political parties
and with candidates. They were everybody knew, you know, you
were a federalist or an anti federalist, or you were
a Democrat or a Republican. And then the twentieth century,
with mass media and maybe the dumbing down of media,
(12:20):
at some level, there was this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh, we're all just the news. It's just well.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I wrote about this a lot because I do think
it's super important what you're laying out. Claiming that your
non partisan as a newspaper is just a business strategy
to allow you to have the biggest possible audience. But
it only works I think if people believe at some
level that what you're doing is you have to play
it close enough to the line that it's plausible now see.
And I think that some of them did that for
(12:47):
a while, which was confused with being unbiased. They weren't
unbiased that by the way, this is the Jake Tapper routine,
trying to be just unbiased enough that you can claim
you're unbiased and not have people laugh in your face.
I think his routine is falling apart, by the way,
but that is what they.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Used to do. And then in the air of social media.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Because of stuff like Terry Moran's tweet, we all see
this for what it is now. By the way, radio
TV complicated this to a large extent because the platforms.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Reach to everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And so, I mean, for instance, they were so concerned
that somebody like us would end up president of the
United States that we couldn't run for political office and
do this show or a senator or a governor because
of FCC license rules. But meanwhile, you can do it now,
do any podcast that you want. Yeah, which is ridiculous,
which is I mean, like the whole concert, or you
can write a book. Let's play what did whoopee Goldberg got. Yeah,
(13:41):
well we'll find that. No, we don't have it. We
just had no, no, no, But we've got to play. Terry Moran,
it's just interviewed Trump on April twenty ninth, and got
into a back and forth because they were trying, let's
play that when we come back, because I'll do this
read here, and I don't want to blow through the comment.
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talking to Trisian McLaughlin, Assistant Secretary of the Department of
Home Land Security, about the riots and the possibility of
those riots spreading to other places, and we shall dive
into all of that. But Clay had mentioned this, we
had the team pull it. Terry Moran just got let go.
(16:12):
Non renewed. I think is actually a better that they're
saying fired, but it's really non renewed on his contract.
I believe Clay's that's right to your point. And here
he was back in April of this year, so not
back April, just like six weeks ago. End of April. Well,
we got two of these, let's let's do thirty two.
Here play it.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I think he's going to be a very good defense
hopefully a great defense secretary, but it'll be very good
defense secretary. You have one hundred percent confidence in you'd
have one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay, anything? Do
I have one hundred percent? It's a stupid question. Look,
it's pretty important because I have no. No, no, you don't
have one hundred percent. Only a liar would say I
(16:55):
have one hundred percent confidence. I don't have one hundred
percent confidence that we're going to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, that's one of my favorite Trump moments from early
this year.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now I actually remember who this guy is. He was
the one who Trump was like, I gave you this interview.
You're a loser, and you're being a loser in the interview,
as I knew you would be, Like, that was what happened. Well,
which is why I think this had to be You
may be right. There's always an argument on the left
wing that these guys are such morons that they don't
even comprehend the consequences of their action.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I think ABC.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
News made him an insulting offer in his mind to continue,
and I think he said, I'm going to go out
in a blaze a glory. They're gonna suspend me, and
then I'll be a martyr and I'll go to MSNBC,
or I'll go to CNN, you know who. I think
there's very few people in the world who there's a
bigger gap between their talent and their self regard than
(17:47):
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Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Obviously a lot going on there, Tricia.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you watch the footage, and I'm sure you're watching
it on Fox News or CNN of the protests inside
of LA, what's your thought? What are you thinking as
you're watching that, sween I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Thinking multiple things. First of all, I'm so discussed by
these writers in which Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom continue
to call peaceful protests. But I'm also so proud of
our law enforcement in the face of such hatred, in
the face of taunting, in the face of violence, they're
being pummeled by rocks. They are so patriotic and professional
(20:18):
and staying with such dignity, and I think all Americans
can be so proud of them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Trusu, I appreciate you being with us. When are we
going to be able to get some data? Is it
really just collected on a monthly basis on the actual
numbers of people that have been taken into custody and
then deported under these operations like the one that got
these rioters so riled up in Los Angeles. Because I
(20:43):
think that that data speaks to the speed with which
the administration is moving and the seriousness with which they
are approaching this effort.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah. Absolutely. So we're north of three hundred in the
last seventy two hours for arrest of criminal legal alien.
So that includes molesters, rapists, convicted murders, parsness, multiple gang members.
These are the heinous individuals that Gavin Newsom and Karen
Bass and the ACLU and these rioters are trying to protect.
(21:12):
As our ice enforcement officers are putting themselves in harm's
way to get these criminal leagual aliens off of our streets.
And our message to protesters is we're only going to
ramp up. We are going to keep going. We're not
going to be to turned by their violence, and you
only see you arrest them or spike.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It seems that the overwhelming majority I've been looking at
the polling supports the idea of what President Trump and
your department are doing, which is arresting people who shouldn't
be here, particularly violent predators, and getting them outside of
the country. What is Gavin Newsom just already running for
president in your mind? I mean, he's already a failed
governor of California. We know Karen Bass is a failed mayor.
(21:53):
Presidents had to travel out there to talk about the
need to allow people to rebuild all over the LA
area for the wildfires that took down their homes. It
seems crazy to me that this would be the decision
of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But I'm looking right now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I don't know if you've seen this yet, but there
is a new poll out showing the Democrat Party approval rating.
This is from Quinnipiac. The Democrat Party has a twenty
one percent approval rating a seventy percent disapproval rating. This
just came out. They seem to just be intent on
opposing whatever Trump does, even if what President Trump is
(22:32):
doing is wildly popular.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right. They are desperate for
a message. They don't have one. They're just trying to
work the same trick and the same message that they
did in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. Their message
has been Trump's bad and January sixth bad. It's been
five years, guys, and the American people love Donald Trump.
They don't have a message, and they're really doubling down
on protecting these criminals on legal aliens. We know we
(22:57):
have the will of the American people. Donald Trump rand
on mass deportations and getting these criminal aliens off of
our streets, and that's exactly what he's delivering. So I
think there's some trench arrangement syndrome going on for sure,
and govin Newsom is doubling down on incompetent governance, and
I think that the polls are are going to not
(23:19):
look so great for him if he does defied to
run in a Democrat primary.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Christian McLoughlin, thank you so much for being with us
from DHS.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Let's you arrest up that voice.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I appreciate it. We're working hard.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Thank you. Thanks for what you're doing. Clay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know I asked about the numbers. Now I'm seeing here. Actually,
Caroline Levitt addressed this from the podium in the White House.
Just in the last hour or two, three hundred and
thirty legal aliens arrested after they participated in the LA riots.
One hundred and thirteen of them had prior criminal convictions.
So you have illegal aliens with prior criminal convictions engaged
(23:54):
in criminal riot behavior at the efforts to deport illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
This is this is now.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The level of spoiled brattiness I think that we see
among some of these legal aliens. That's one way of
putting it, the entitlement. There we go, better word the entitlement.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Among these illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And Caroline also addressed from the press, you know, I
like this too, and taking a page out of Trump's book,
this has cut thirty. The White House Press Secretary Levitt,
when she's asked whether Trump supports peaceful protest play thirty.
So if there were peaceful protests on Saturday for the
gilitate hoarade, president Trump would allow that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Of course, the President supports peaceful protest.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
What a stupid question, perfect way to handle that. I mean,
you know this is this is almost a when do
you stop beating your wife?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Question?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It's like, well, does a president actually believe the First
Amendment matters at all? You know, I will say that
the press Corps Clay in a different era, the White
House Press Corps, I think, would have felt like this
was their moment to grandstand and make all these windy
speeches about how horrible it is to be deporting the
(25:04):
illegal immigrants who are the you know, the salt of
the earth Americans that we need in the future or whatever.
And now they recognize that they don't have the cover
from the institutions that they represent, the news agencies, and
that they don't have a Democrat Party waiting to back
them up in the public, you know, in the public
sphere and public debates. So they're a little more timid
(25:26):
than they have been in previous administrations.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, and look, I mean that that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Poll that I just shared with you from Quinnipiac. It's
important to note Quinnipiac is not Republicans are awesome dot
com polsters. They're somewhat of a middle of the road.
It's even a little bit left leaning poll group. And
when you're talking about Democrats consistently taking twenty and twenty
five percent popularity issues, I really feel like we are
(25:56):
in an era right now where in the wake of
nineteen eighty nineteen eighty four. Let me make my historical
argument here. You can tell me if I'm crazy on this.
In many ways, Jimmy Carter was an accidental president, brought
on by Watergate. Because Watergate happened, Jimmy Carter got elected,
Inflation skyrocketed. He was an economic disaster. Ronald Reagan came
(26:20):
in and Republicans won in eighty eighty four eighty eight,
and then Bill Clinton basically in ninety two, with Ross
Perot running, ran as a sort of new Democrat. Now,
you can argue about whatever you want about Democrats in
ninety two, but ninety two and in ninety six, Clinton
(26:40):
ran as what would now be like Bill Clinton ninety
two and Bill Clinton ninety six. Leave away the sexual
shenanigans with the intern for a moment, and just look
at what he ended up working on once he got
wrecked in ninety four. He really ran that would be
a Republican platform. Now, then Bush wins two thousand, two
(27:01):
thousand and eight, two thousand and four. Again, Okay, my
point on that is Biden is Carter. Biden is Jimmy Carter.
The only reason he.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Got elected was COVID and they were able to hide him.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Trump would have won I think a landslide against Biden
in twenty twenty. And some of you are saying, Clay
he did well. Okay, I get used. But the reason
they were able to do all of the rigging, the
reason they were able to get all of the absentee ballots,
the male ballots eighty one point three million, should be
(27:34):
a joke for everybody out there. Okay, come on, I
wouldn't say that Bill Clinton ran on a Republican platform.
I'm saying his platform ninety two and ninety six. Now,
I mean, is pro choice assault weapons ban there's a
but he said abortion should be safe.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Legal, and rare.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
He balanced the budget, like go back and look at
it today in many ways would be able. Well, the
gay marriage issue, for example, is very different then, so
I think he signed the Defensive Marriage Act, right, So
that was just because the country was decidedly on that
was a Democrat and Republican issue. So the country has moved,
or at least the Democratic part. My point is the
(28:16):
Democrat party. Bill Clinton said, we have to redefine what
the Democrat party is. Now you can dispute how much
he redefined it, but there was a recognition that the
Democrat brand was toxic and they lost every election effectively. Well,
he only won because of the Actroton Ross Barrow, so
he won with less than fifty percent of the vote,
and then he had a Republican Congress to contend with.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So what was he going to do? Nothing? Well, I
mean he tried. We knew he did some stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
In ninety four, he got absolutely crushed and we had
new giggrich On. We've talked about that before with him.
My point on it is, I think the Republican brand, sorry,
the Democrat brand is toxic, and I think it's the
most toxic with young men. They actually use as an insult. Now,
(29:03):
the idea that you might be a Kamala voter. I
just I remember what it was like being a Republican
in two thousand and nine after Obama absolutely wiped the
floor with war hero John McCain, and we were all
sitting around saying, the demographics are against us, this is
against us. I bring this up because yes, right now,
(29:25):
the brand and the messaging is toxic. Clay Kamala gets
two hundred and fifty thousand votes in a few places,
and all of a sudden, Kamala Harris, who is I
think certainly the dumbest person to run for president in
our lifetime. Yep, Kamala Harris would have been president. And
it wasn't that far even with the lie about Biden's dementia,
(29:46):
the disastrous So you know, right now it looks really good.
But this is why Trump this is the year man,
this is and he's doing it. He's doing it. This
is not a complaint, but running up the scoreboard and
getting as much done and as much accomplished as possible
now before the midterm, more of the midterms, and before
we start thinking about the next you really have eighteen
months to Trump has eighteen months to save the country,
and I think he's moving as fast as he can
(30:08):
on that. But a part of the of this is
that all you need are Democrats to start coming up
with some more compelling messaging on healthcare some of these
things that haven't really and that gap.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That combers is a horrible candidate. I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
If they ran somebody who was even a halfway decent candidate,
I still think Trump would have won. But the next
time around, if you voted for Kamala in this last election,
you will vote Democrat, no matter what Democrat. You could put,
like you know, any name on a screen and say
that's the Democrat and people would vote for it.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You could put a mannequin, Yes, you could put a
non You can put it.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If you could put a dementia pation in the oval offense,
I think you could vote for a mannequin. I think
their brand is toxic on a level that has never
existed in my life.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I think your triatholism is going too far this one.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
There there are a lot of insane see, because I've
lived in New York where people always saying, do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You really believe? Do you really believe that eighty percent
of people in New York vote Democrat?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And they will say suggest things like, oh, they must
be cheating in New York.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No, it is. It is true.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Eighty percent of New York City residents are Democrats who
vote like this is the reality. Look, I will say,
this is why I believe Democrats are going to have
to find their version of Trump. I don't think I'm
gonna make a prediction here. I don't think the Democrat
nominee in twenty twenty eight will be someone who is inelected.
(31:31):
So I had to take you out for a very
expensive stake because Biden unfortunately couldn't just pull off the
last leg of the con which he got very far. Okay,
Biden carried the ball of his conning the American people
to the five yard lines started. I can't say high
stepping because that would require balance, but was having a
tough time, so the ability to walk to walk, yes, so,
(31:51):
but he he was having a rough one and so
I took the heat on that. Okay, fine, even though
really for two years to say that Biden was going
to run seemed been saying, and he did run. But
Michelle Obama, you were part of the Michelle Obama is
going to run chorus?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Have you seen her?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You were gone this day and I wanted to I
don't want to bother you on your vacation. Have you
seen her on these podcasts?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Awful?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
She is absolutely horrible, and everybody who listens to hers like,
this woman is terrible. That was all a media creation,
all a fiction, correct, But my thought on that was
the only way you could avoid Kamala, who was also awful,
was by having another black woman. So now there's no
chance Michelle Obama is running in the future. I don't
(32:33):
think there's any way she's okay. I think she is
thoroughly unlikable because the stuff I as somebody who always
thought that she was this construct of the media in
these popsy I sit there, I'm like, this woman is
this I think a lot of Democrats honestly don't like
her anymore. She's got Megan Markele level authenticity and likability,
which is not a high level of likeability. By the way,
(32:57):
as you go to read this, you'll appreciate I walk
into the house. My wife hates Megan Markle so much.
She listens to British podcasts about how awful Megan Markle.
And this is funny because your wife and my wife
are in the Meghan Markele is the worst person in
the world club. And just separately they came to this conclusion.
And so I know, whenever I just want to terstcarry,
(33:19):
I think I sent her anyone trashing Meghan Markle and
she's just like, I walk in or I'm getting ready
for bed and there's like a British podcast and it's
just a complete a visceration. I'm like, what are you
listening to? It's just British people talking about how much
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