February 24, 2025 • 36 mins
EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin dishes on billions in government waste, including $2 billion stashed away by Biden admin for Stacey Abrams-linked climate group and what the Trump EPA will accomplish for the environment. Yesterday was the 80th anniversary of the flag being raised at Iwo Jima and the 189th anniversary of the start of the battle of the Alamo. Congrats, Dan Bongino, on your WH promotion! Clay vs. Buck on movies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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(00:40):
both in the United States and frankly around the world
and on podcast. So thanks to everybody out there. We're
joined now by the new head of the EPA. He
is Lee Zelden, and Lee, we appreciate the time. We
know you've been diving into how the money is being
spent at the EPA, and you are already uncovering some
(01:00):
frankly buried secrets that don't have a lot to do
with the environment or protection now, what can you tell
us about what you found so far?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's great to be with you guys. Yes, tens of
billions of dollars. When I was going through my Senate
confirmation process, there was this video that came out. I'm
sure both of you guys saw where the Biden epa
political appointee, was talking about how they were throwing gold
bars off the Titanic. Says that multiple times in the video,
talks about how he's trying to that they are trying
(01:29):
to get themselves jobs at the recipient NGOs and the
senators I was meeting with at the time were asking
for me to commit which was a pretty easy commitment
for me to make that once I was confirmed, I
would come in and try to find these gold bars. Well,
it didn't take us much time to start finding all
sorts of waste and abuse. I canceled a fifty million
(01:50):
dollar grant to the Climate Justice Alliance they say that
climate justice runs through a Free Palestine. Canceled about ninety
grants working with those DEI and Environmental Justice that's totaling
over one hundred and twenty five hundred and twenty seven
million dollars. Cancel over a million dollars worth of media
subscriptions where the agency was getting ripped off having to
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pay too much. And the biggest one was a twenty
billion dollars pot of money parked at a bank outside
of government, a rush job at the end of the
Biden administration to offload tens of billions of dollars, all
going to eight passed through NGOs, one of which was
Stacy Abrams's NGO, which received two billion dollars even though
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they only received one hundred dollars. In twenty twenty three,
five billion dollars went to the former employer of the
director of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund. And a story
out this morning of somebody who was involved in the
council to design this this plan and this pot of
money got twenty million dollars for their organization that they
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work at, even though that organization over the last few
years only raised in total just over two million. So
there's a lot there with regards to that pot of
twenty billion dollars. We're not done. It's it's wild how
much waste we by deed. And I'll just give you
one more. There was one hundred and sixty million dollars
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sent to a Canadian electric vehicle school bus company as
part of the Clean school Bus program. They then declared bankruptcy.
They still haven't delivered on ninety five million dollars worth
of school buses for fifty five school districts. Yes by an,
EPA gave them all one hundred and sixty million dollars
up front, and then they declared bankruptcy without performing on
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most of the contract. We are going to end the
waste and abuse at the EPA.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, mister administrator, I was gonna same as the sector
of an administrator of the EPA. Lee explain how this
works in just the most simple layman's terms, because we're
hearing this stuff. So the EPA gives out grants millions
and millions of dollars to whatever organization some people in
(04:07):
the EPA decide should get that money to do whatever, Like,
how does that actually go?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And what kind of oversight is there on this? I mean,
you're finding.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This this obvious abuse and fraud. But I'm just wondering,
how is the process. Is it really just as simple
as the EPA says, Oh, we like this climate change
group of lunatics, We're going to give them, you know,
fifty million bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's pretty much how it worked out. And that's a
lot of self dealing, a lot of conflicts of interest,
and it's also a lie to the American public when
you talk about terms like environmental justice or climate change
and you define them in a way that appeals to
the masses. Like, for example, with environmental justice, you say
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that there's some community that has been left behind and
they need assistance to deal with this pressing environmental issue. Yeah,
there are a lot of people, conservatives, monarchs, liberals say like,
oh wow, this community is in need. They don't have
access to clean airline or water. What can we do
to assist, But here's the problem. In the name of
environmental justice, they'll then get fifty million dollars to an
(05:17):
organization as a left wing advocacy group that's talking about
how climate justice runs through gaza. They'll talk about climate
change in a way that appeals to the masses, and
then in the name of climate change, they'll advance policies
that would bankrupt our country if we did everything. It
will raise the rates for energy costs, it will eliminate
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choice to the point where the people who get hurt
the most of the ones who can least afford it.
The President has been outspoken on this. His words have
been criticized when he's used the term climate change hoax.
What he's been talking about I've heard him mentioned a
few times where it was in my presence. When I've
heard him talk about it, he's talking about how there
(06:03):
are people who said that the world was imminently about
to end. This was a few years ago. I'm sure
both of you guys remember this, that we're just a
few years away from the end of time, and that
we had to pass this green new deal that would
cost tens of trillions of dollars if we did everything
in this plan, and in the name of climate change.
(06:27):
There's this willingness to cause extreme economic pain for the
people to at least afford it, and it's wrong and
he wants to stop that, and he's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right, Lee, So much is changing.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It feels like in terms of the president's just endorsing
basic common sense and you're talking about fraud and abuse
in the EPA you ran for governor against Kathy Hochel.
One of the areas that seems to be moving most
aggressively towards sanity, I would say, is the New York
New Jersey area. What do you think the first thirty
(07:02):
days has done to advance that ball moving more and
more towards sanity. We know New York, for instance, was
more competitive than Texas or California were in the national election,
which stuns people, and the Trump team feels like if
they'd had a little bit more money, they could have
flipped New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's really going on here? What are you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Seeing as a guy who's been in politics for a
while and is now part of this administration.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Top issues for Americans of all walks of life are
related to the economy and crime and public safety. They
care about the illegal immigration at the border, and President
Trump in his first month in office, has been working
to make tremendous progress on all of that, and we
(07:48):
see it with the efforts of ice in the Department
of Homeland Security, and he didn't waste any time. It
was something that started on day one. If you are
illegally in the country, and you're the worst of the worst,
we need to be doing everything in our power to
get you out of the country and making sure that
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we are actually securing our border. And we're sending a
message to those who haven't come yet they might have
been on their way to come illegally into the country,
that there's a process and if you want to break
the law, you're not welcome here. And that message, I
think goes a long way inside of some of these
cities where people have experienced the secondary effects of these policies,
(08:33):
impacts on crime, budgets, healthcare, education, housing, and more. And
that progress is something that I think a lot of
Americans are saying thank God. On another front, on the
energy front, President Trump just signed his executive order for
National Energy Dominance Council, which I'm serving on along with
(08:54):
a secretary right at Department of Energy and Doug Bergham
at the Department of Interior. And there's a big pipeline
project called Constitution Pipeline that would transport natural gas across
many states in the Northeast. And if you're a New
Yorker where they ban the safe extraction of natural gas,
(09:15):
where they are on the pace towards banning the sale
of gas power vehicles, where they do not allow gas
hookups to new construction, and they are talking about offshore
wind as if that is the replacement for baseload energy
closing indiandpoint not getting new nuclear on site opportunities to
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have more AI data centers, but those require energy to
It's just night and day when you look at where
we were not that long ago and where we are
since President Trump was sworn into office. And here's the thing.
We're not a month in saying our work is done
here and now we're going to start coasting. We're just
getting started. This is just the beginning of what I
(10:00):
believe too is a golden age of American success. Just
like President Trump talks about.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Mister administrator, I want to ask you about that to
close us out here, which is right now we've seen
whether it's what you're doing at the EPA and obviously
DOGE government wide under President Trump's approval, is getting rid
of the waste, right, the waste is bad. What are
the EPA priorities under this Trump administration that are action
(10:27):
for the environment or that are things that actually touch
on what the mission of your agency is supposed to
be other than not paying a lot of money to
left wing climate lunatics, Like, what are some of the
things you're going to try to get done as EPA
administrator as long as you're in that role that Trump
wants you to pursue.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Love that question, and President Trump wants clean air, land,
and water for all Americans. The core mission of EPA
is protecting human health and the environment. Right now, we
are finishing up our Phase one hazardous material removal. It
was a thirty day timeline in Los Angeles after the wildfires.
President Trump set a bold deadline. But we have over
fifteen hundred workers on the ground to be able to
(11:07):
crush that job. I was just in Flint, Michigan last week.
I've been in East Palactine, Ohio with our great new
Vice president, Western North Carolina with that hurricane response. We
just got a mission assignment with the Kentucky flooding. There
is so much that we are doing right now all
across this country to ensure that we have clean Atlanta water,
(11:30):
like President Trump wants us to set out for. Our
five pillared initiative is called Powering the Great American Comeback.
We're just talking just now about Pillar one. We also
want to help unleash energy dominance, pursupermiting reform, bring back
more American auto jobs, and ensure the United States of
America is the AI capital of the world. There are
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important priorities of this President. There are key statutory obligations
from Congress like the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act,
Safe Drinking Water Act, Toxic Since Chemicals Act. We're going
to do our job exceptionally. We're going to follow our
obligations under the law. We were going to respect the
rule of law, and we are going to embrace cooperative
federalism to work with states across this country.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
EPA Administrator Zelden, thank you so much, sir, and please
as you continue on with these missions, we'd love to
have you back to hear how it's going, so thank
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One hundred and eighty nine years.
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yesterday was the eightieth anniversary of the flag being raised
above Iwajima. For those of you who are big time
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I know, you know it comes from the sort of
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I have.
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And The Flags of My Father's is the book that
it's based on, right, yeah.
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The first one. That one.
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The movie was not as good. I thought Letters from
Ewojima actually ended up being a better movie than Flags
of Our Fathers as a movie. But then again, Clay,
I saw that.
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You think the new Beverly Hills cop movie is good.
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You watch it.
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I thought it was I thought it was pretty good.
It felt like a nineteen eighties movie. I think you've
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I think the movie res he gets a time out
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We've got a lot to continue to update you on,
including President Trump with Emmanuel McCrone, the leader of France,
in the Oval Office a few minutes ago. But I
wanted to hit this because it became a big story
over the weekend. Buck even that I bet you saw
and I mentioned it off the top, but a little
bit more detail. The Philadelphia Eagles, as many of you,
(19:18):
certainly in the Philadelphia area will remember, won the Super
Bowl and there has been a lot of talk about
teams visiting the Super Bowl and a team's visiting the
White House after winning the Super Bowl or after winning
their championships. A story went megaviral over the weekend. Everybody
was reacting to it. I bet a lot of you
(19:40):
saw it maybe come across your social feeds, and it's
just not true. And that report was that the Eagles
had turned down an invitation to the White House and
were going to basically thumb their nose at Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That hasn't happened. It is fake news.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I talked to someone inside the White House who confirmed
for me and wanted me to put it out to
the public that there had been no invite extended. In fact,
that most of those invites don't happen until the summer.
I mean, this just happened with the Super Bowl, and
there have been other reports since saying that the Eagles
are likely to end up taking a invite to the
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White House and meeting with Trump, as championship teams often do,
and as the Florida Panthers have already done the NHL
champion So I wanted to put that out there because
a lot of people were reacting angrily to a report
that came out of a British tabloid that is an
anonymous source and buck Sometimes it's interesting how stories go megaviral.
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Sometimes you or I are involved in a story that
might go megaviral and you're like, I don't really remember
saying that, or I don't remember doing that. These aggregating
sites can take a sentence and then they play on
it and it blows up and it actually is not
the truth and maybe not even representative of what someone said.
So that is out there. I wanted to put that
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Okay, again, if you like nineteen eighties buddy cops, it's
very nineteen eighties buddy cop like speaking of like we.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Appreciate it before we go.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I just I would like to note that when you're
talking about the Eagles, I did call that my beloved
Eagles Fly, Eagles Fly would win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Was it a coin toss? Was it fifty to fifty? Sure?
But I did get it right, So I'm gonna take
it I was wrong. Yeah, I was wrong. I had
the chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Buck had the eagles, and he is the big winner
e a G L e s unlike the mayor.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We can actually spell eagles. That point. We wanted to
mention this too.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Our friend Dan Bongino has been elevated to second place
in the FBI, Deputy.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Director of the fabual Investigation. And I absolutely this is
great for the country. Dan is a patriot, He is
a true law enforcement officer by trade, NYPD secret Service.
Him running the number two spot at the FBI, He's
going to be absolutely fantastic. He loves the country. He's
(22:29):
a fighter, and we could not wish him more well
in this than we do. And I know so many
of you are already writing in to tell him that
this is great. I mean the Cash and Bongino team
at FBI. I will tell you people at the FBI
who have become partisan hacks and have used the powers
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of law enforcement to chase political agendas and to try
to ruin people, they should be concerned because justice, I
think is coming. They should actually be concerned about their
professional future. For sure, I will say that it is
not You know, if I if I knew somebody inside
the FBI, he was like I was a.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Part of the Komi team and I was trying to
do Russia collusion, and I was I would say, you
should probably lawyer up and think about a new career.
We worked behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
We can say it now because he's been confirmed to
try to get cash that FBI job and uh and
and help to get him across the finish line. I
think as we did for a lot of different people
in the cabinet. But Bongino has put down the microphone.
He's got a podcast, radio show, been very successful, does
a lot of work with Rumble, which is a competitor
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of YouTube. Again, I'm impressed with the hard work that
he has put into the into the universe, and he's
been very successful at it. And credit to him and
to the Trump team for continuing to put together a
real collection of difference makers. I think, let's be candid.
You know, people say disruptor. I actually prefer what you said,
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which is a difference maker, because it's not just you know,
anyone can go in and like smash up the shop,
but no, this is about picking where you're going to
make those differences, picking what you're going you know, Yeah,
you got to get rid of the bad stuff, but
you've also got to bring good stuff into the mix.
And I think that there's another kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
A a more of a a of a throwback here
to the sense that we had of this country even
at the founding.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And I mean, like the very earliest days.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Of We don't need to have people who all they
ever do is figure out how to get donor money
to stay in their job in politics. You know, we
don't actually have to be a country ruled by pelosis
in McConnell's. We don't have to do that, and we
don't have to only have people who have spent This
is the bureaucratic equivalent of what I just laid out
of the political you know, the elected office side. It
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doesn't have to be I've been in the FBI for
twenty five years, so I'm the only person who can
run the FBI.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's just not that's I think we've seen what that
leads to.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think that there's a lot of institutional capture that
the Left has been able to engage in because of
the nature of these bureaucracies. And I think that bringing
people in who have we going to say, real world experience,
it's more just a realistic view of the world. Yeah,
I don't want people running any of these agencies who
think that it is okay for the people working in
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these agencies to assume that they have a job forever,
no matter whether they do it well or not. That's
that shouldn't be okay. But if you come from within
these bureaucracies, that is the mentality. So it's a bit
of the uh. You know, there used to be an
old in ancient Rome. It was like you're you're you're
a soldier, and then you're a businessman, and then you're
(25:45):
a statesman.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
You know, this is sort of a.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Way that people would go through a kind of idealized
view for men of the life that they could lead. Right,
you go through these different phases of life. I think
that's a much healthier thing. It's actually government sant to
say this for someone like Dan, for someone like Dan
Bongino to go work is actually serving the government, to
serve the country, to serve the people. It's not self service.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What we see is a.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Lot of people who honestly don't have other options, who
just kind of sit around to the bloated bureaucracy and
ride that train as far as they can. No, Now
we've got Elon and Bongino, and you know these other
individuals who are coming together.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I mean you look at me.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Even what's FBI Director Cash. You know, he had a
very lucrative private sector career that he's left behind now
to do this. So this is something that I think
we want to see a lot more of. And I
can't say enough good things about the trend.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And to your point, I think that Trump administration has
more people now working in it who were successful in
the private sector, probably than we've ever seen in any administration.
I mean, you mentioned Bongino, who obviously is leaving behind
way more money to go take this job. Certainly, look
at Scott Bessent, look at Howard Ludnik. I mean, these
(27:05):
are guys who were making money hand over fist. Look
at Trump himself when he got.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Into Trump and yeah, he is a billionaire, could play
golf the rest of his life and be very happy,
and he decided to go right back into the Mailstrom.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And Elon, obviously, who's the richest person in the world.
We talked with one of the guys who's doing this,
David Sachs, who is again, these are people who are
independently wealthy that have the ability to make great sums
of money and have decided, hey, I want to give
something back public service. To your point on behalf of
the nation. I think it's something that we should really
(27:38):
be applauding. So congrats to Dan Bongino. I wanted to
play this because I thought it was kind of funny.
Here buck this is. I mentioned that Trump was meeting
with Macrone, the president of France. Here is a throwback
to Trump discussing the meeting that they had back in
twenty seventeen in his first term.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Listen to cut tent.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I just want to tell you a little sir. So
we were at the Eiffel Tower having dinner with your
wonderful wife and with my wonderful wife, and we came
out and he started speaking the French deal, and we
didn't have an interpreter, and he was going on and
on and on, and I was just nodding yes, yes, yes.
And he really sold me at because I got back
the next d I read the papers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I said, that's not what we said.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
He's a smart customer. I will tell you that that wasn't.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Exactly what we agreed to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Very funny if you remember that visit, it was layered
in a lot of pomp and circumstance when Trump went
to France for one of his first, maybe his first
international visit as president in the summer of twenty seventeen,
if I remember correctly, because I think I was over
there with my family when he happened to visit in
the pomp and circumstance was really kind of overwhelming. All right, Buck,
(28:57):
you can close this out here on this segment. We'll
take some of your when we come back eight hundred
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(31:32):
weighing in here. Since I'm since I'm bringing us back
on this segment, I'm gonna go right to Michael and
Charleston South Carolina. Michael, you wanted to you wanted to
tell us your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Yeah, what's up? Buck? Absolutely love listening to you, man, Clay,
You're pretty good too. I just want to say that,
after having endorsed anyone but you for Valentine's Day and
now Beverly Hills Coop, Clay should not be allowed to
(32:04):
speak about movies in the future any longer.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Wow, he's pulling your movie review card. Clay.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
First of all, I apologize for still having a childlike
sensibility glee optimism in my day as opposed to all
of you, you scoundrels out there. They look on the
bad side of life. Look, I didn't say Beverly Hills
Cop was Citizen Kane.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
All right. It's not the greatest movie that's ever been made.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It was a homage to nineteen eighties buddy cop movies,
and I liked it. And most of the people I
will say who read on Twitter reacted. I didn't know
what the reaction was gonna be. Most of them agreed
with me. So why do you have such a heart
of stone? I guess is my question for you.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I just feel like I'm gonna put this to Michael. Michael,
I think Clay is a repeat offender. In this regard
think I think we're maybe even at the three strikes
in your out rule, because he also thought Gladiator.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Two was good, which is I couldn't. I couldn't even
get through that on a plane.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I was stuck in a plane and it was all
I had to watch, and I had to turn it
off and just stare at the stare at the window.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Reason Dinzel did that was for money.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, to me, okay, hold on, to be fair, how
many jobs have you done for free?
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Fair?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And actually I saw a quote.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
If this is from Dinzel hold On Michael hold On
Denzel in an interview I was reading this weekend. Somebody said,
you've been criticized for doing Gladiator two for money, and
he said, of course I did it for money. He said,
I've never done a movie for any reason other than money, Right, Like,
if you're not doing something for free, then you're probably
choosing to do it for me.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Well, it's not that he got paid, it's that he
could have done any project he wanted, Clay, but he's
already very wealthy and one of the greatest actors of
his generation, and he probably could have been. Okay, passing
on this particular product. I gave it a seven out
of ten. I think that's a reasonable number. I mean
three three. Did you see anything but you no that one? Michael?
(34:14):
Did you see that one? You're you gotta you gotta
fill at Clay on your own on that one.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Did you see it? Which one comedy or anyone?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
But you no?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I watched the trailer and was like, I don't know
how this made it to production.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
See there we go, Michael.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Thank you for calling in speaking subsanity to Clay. You know,
I'm just I'm trying to help him with his cinematic
taste a little bit. This is what I'm here for.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I will say this again, anyone but you as romantic
comedies go pretty funny. I watched it on an airplane flight.
There haven't been that many good romantic comedies in a
long time. So if you had to watch a romantic
comedy with your wife or your girlfriend, I thought it
was pretty good. Glin Is with the blonde lady who
is a buxom boom Yeah, Glenn Powell good looking guy,
(35:05):
Sidney Sweeney good looking girl, a little bit of eye
candy in both directions, good humor. I I don't think
there's anything wrong with that, with that endorsement of any
of these movies. I'm not saying they're the greatest films
that have ever been.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Made, but pretty entertaining.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
By the way, Joy Reid apparently we just saw this
now crying crying with the with the removal from MS
at MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Uh do we are we going to address this tomorrow?
Are we going to percent?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
We will play Joy Reid crying tomorrow, so we will
continue to tap dance on her career being over, and
we'll take more of your calls. But I apologize to
all of you because Buck has lost that loving feeling.
He's lost the ability to experience childlike glee. In fact,
if he watched Goonies tonight, he would come back to
you and he would say, there's no way that ship
(35:59):
would still form.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I want to tell you what have been found.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What Clay has shown you here is that not only
would he be a very good defense attorney for you,
he would be a good defense attorney for you, especially
if you were guilty as all hell okay, because he
could take any position. Clay could have been on the
OJ team and would have been a rock star because
he could take any position and make it work. Because
(36:23):
I'm telling you Gladiator too, trash trash movie.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Just enjoy life and watch. Axel left Travis and Buck
Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
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Clay Travis. You can search out my name, search out
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Numbers came out recently ranking podcast audiences, and the show
was one of the three or four most listened to
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because obviously we're on five hundred stations nationwide and all
fifty states, and we appreciate all of you out there listening,
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both in the United States and frankly around the world
and on podcast. So thanks to everybody out there. We're
joined now by the new head of the EPA. He
is Lee Zelden, and Lee, we appreciate the time. We
know you've been diving into how the money is being
spent at the EPA, and you are already uncovering some
(01:00):
frankly buried secrets that don't have a lot to do
with the environment or protection now, what can you tell
us about what you found so far?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's great to be with you guys. Yes, tens of
billions of dollars. When I was going through my Senate
confirmation process, there was this video that came out. I'm
sure both of you guys saw where the Biden epa
political appointee, was talking about how they were throwing gold
bars off the Titanic. Says that multiple times in the video,
talks about how he's trying to that they are trying
(01:29):
to get themselves jobs at the recipient NGOs and the
senators I was meeting with at the time were asking
for me to commit which was a pretty easy commitment
for me to make that once I was confirmed, I
would come in and try to find these gold bars. Well,
it didn't take us much time to start finding all
sorts of waste and abuse. I canceled a fifty million
(01:50):
dollar grant to the Climate Justice Alliance they say that
climate justice runs through a Free Palestine. Canceled about ninety
grants working with those DEI and Environmental Justice that's totaling
over one hundred and twenty five hundred and twenty seven
million dollars. Cancel over a million dollars worth of media
subscriptions where the agency was getting ripped off having to
(02:14):
pay too much. And the biggest one was a twenty
billion dollars pot of money parked at a bank outside
of government, a rush job at the end of the
Biden administration to offload tens of billions of dollars, all
going to eight passed through NGOs, one of which was
Stacy Abrams's NGO, which received two billion dollars even though
(02:37):
they only received one hundred dollars. In twenty twenty three,
five billion dollars went to the former employer of the
director of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund. And a story
out this morning of somebody who was involved in the
council to design this this plan and this pot of
money got twenty million dollars for their organization that they
(02:58):
work at, even though that organization over the last few
years only raised in total just over two million. So
there's a lot there with regards to that pot of
twenty billion dollars. We're not done. It's it's wild how
much waste we by deed. And I'll just give you
one more. There was one hundred and sixty million dollars
(03:19):
sent to a Canadian electric vehicle school bus company as
part of the Clean school Bus program. They then declared bankruptcy.
They still haven't delivered on ninety five million dollars worth
of school buses for fifty five school districts. Yes by an,
EPA gave them all one hundred and sixty million dollars
up front, and then they declared bankruptcy without performing on
(03:41):
most of the contract. We are going to end the
waste and abuse at the EPA.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, mister administrator, I was gonna same as the sector
of an administrator of the EPA. Lee explain how this
works in just the most simple layman's terms, because we're
hearing this stuff. So the EPA gives out grants millions
and millions of dollars to whatever organization some people in
(04:07):
the EPA decide should get that money to do whatever, Like,
how does that actually go?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And what kind of oversight is there on this? I mean,
you're finding.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
This this obvious abuse and fraud. But I'm just wondering,
how is the process. Is it really just as simple
as the EPA says, Oh, we like this climate change
group of lunatics, We're going to give them, you know,
fifty million bucks.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That's pretty much how it worked out. And that's a
lot of self dealing, a lot of conflicts of interest,
and it's also a lie to the American public when
you talk about terms like environmental justice or climate change
and you define them in a way that appeals to
the masses. Like, for example, with environmental justice, you say
(04:53):
that there's some community that has been left behind and
they need assistance to deal with this pressing environmental issue. Yeah,
there are a lot of people, conservatives, monarchs, liberals say like,
oh wow, this community is in need. They don't have
access to clean airline or water. What can we do
to assist, But here's the problem. In the name of
environmental justice, they'll then get fifty million dollars to an
(05:17):
organization as a left wing advocacy group that's talking about
how climate justice runs through gaza. They'll talk about climate
change in a way that appeals to the masses, and
then in the name of climate change, they'll advance policies
that would bankrupt our country if we did everything. It
will raise the rates for energy costs, it will eliminate
(05:41):
choice to the point where the people who get hurt
the most of the ones who can least afford it.
The President has been outspoken on this. His words have
been criticized when he's used the term climate change hoax.
What he's been talking about I've heard him mentioned a
few times where it was in my presence. When I've
heard him talk about it, he's talking about how there
(06:03):
are people who said that the world was imminently about
to end. This was a few years ago. I'm sure
both of you guys remember this, that we're just a
few years away from the end of time, and that
we had to pass this green new deal that would
cost tens of trillions of dollars if we did everything
in this plan, and in the name of climate change.
(06:27):
There's this willingness to cause extreme economic pain for the
people to at least afford it, and it's wrong and
he wants to stop that, and he's.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Right, Lee, So much is changing.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It feels like in terms of the president's just endorsing
basic common sense and you're talking about fraud and abuse
in the EPA you ran for governor against Kathy Hochel.
One of the areas that seems to be moving most
aggressively towards sanity, I would say, is the New York
New Jersey area. What do you think the first thirty
(07:02):
days has done to advance that ball moving more and
more towards sanity. We know New York, for instance, was
more competitive than Texas or California were in the national election,
which stuns people, and the Trump team feels like if
they'd had a little bit more money, they could have
flipped New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
What's really going on here? What are you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Seeing as a guy who's been in politics for a
while and is now part of this administration.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Top issues for Americans of all walks of life are
related to the economy and crime and public safety. They
care about the illegal immigration at the border, and President
Trump in his first month in office, has been working
to make tremendous progress on all of that, and we
(07:48):
see it with the efforts of ice in the Department
of Homeland Security, and he didn't waste any time. It
was something that started on day one. If you are
illegally in the country, and you're the worst of the worst,
we need to be doing everything in our power to
get you out of the country and making sure that
(08:08):
we are actually securing our border. And we're sending a
message to those who haven't come yet they might have
been on their way to come illegally into the country,
that there's a process and if you want to break
the law, you're not welcome here. And that message, I
think goes a long way inside of some of these
cities where people have experienced the secondary effects of these policies,
(08:33):
impacts on crime, budgets, healthcare, education, housing, and more. And
that progress is something that I think a lot of
Americans are saying thank God. On another front, on the
energy front, President Trump just signed his executive order for
National Energy Dominance Council, which I'm serving on along with
(08:54):
a secretary right at Department of Energy and Doug Bergham
at the Department of Interior. And there's a big pipeline
project called Constitution Pipeline that would transport natural gas across
many states in the Northeast. And if you're a New
Yorker where they ban the safe extraction of natural gas,
(09:15):
where they are on the pace towards banning the sale
of gas power vehicles, where they do not allow gas
hookups to new construction, and they are talking about offshore
wind as if that is the replacement for baseload energy
closing indiandpoint not getting new nuclear on site opportunities to
(09:36):
have more AI data centers, but those require energy to
It's just night and day when you look at where
we were not that long ago and where we are
since President Trump was sworn into office. And here's the thing.
We're not a month in saying our work is done
here and now we're going to start coasting. We're just
getting started. This is just the beginning of what I
(10:00):
believe too is a golden age of American success. Just
like President Trump talks about.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Mister administrator, I want to ask you about that to
close us out here, which is right now we've seen
whether it's what you're doing at the EPA and obviously
DOGE government wide under President Trump's approval, is getting rid
of the waste, right, the waste is bad. What are
the EPA priorities under this Trump administration that are action
(10:27):
for the environment or that are things that actually touch
on what the mission of your agency is supposed to
be other than not paying a lot of money to
left wing climate lunatics, Like, what are some of the
things you're going to try to get done as EPA
administrator as long as you're in that role that Trump
wants you to pursue.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Love that question, and President Trump wants clean air, land,
and water for all Americans. The core mission of EPA
is protecting human health and the environment. Right now, we
are finishing up our Phase one hazardous material removal. It
was a thirty day timeline in Los Angeles after the wildfires.
President Trump set a bold deadline. But we have over
fifteen hundred workers on the ground to be able to
(11:07):
crush that job. I was just in Flint, Michigan last week.
I've been in East Palactine, Ohio with our great new
Vice president, Western North Carolina with that hurricane response. We
just got a mission assignment with the Kentucky flooding. There
is so much that we are doing right now all
across this country to ensure that we have clean Atlanta water,
(11:30):
like President Trump wants us to set out for. Our
five pillared initiative is called Powering the Great American Comeback.
We're just talking just now about Pillar one. We also
want to help unleash energy dominance, pursupermiting reform, bring back
more American auto jobs, and ensure the United States of
America is the AI capital of the world. There are
(11:51):
important priorities of this President. There are key statutory obligations
from Congress like the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act,
Safe Drinking Water Act, Toxic Since Chemicals Act. We're going
to do our job exceptionally. We're going to follow our
obligations under the law. We were going to respect the
rule of law, and we are going to embrace cooperative
federalism to work with states across this country.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
EPA Administrator Zelden, thank you so much, sir, and please
as you continue on with these missions, we'd love to
have you back to hear how it's going, so thank
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Hi, client, Buck, love you guys, love listening to you.
Thank you so much for all you've done to make
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One hundred and eighty nine years.
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Fifteen days later, one hundred and eighty nine years. It's
a big deal here in San Antonio.
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It's awesome.
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We're going to try to come down and visit the
Alamo at some point this spring or summer. We got
to figure out when Buck's baby is going to arrive
and how that's going to rock his world as a
new dad. But that would definitely be super cool. The
other thing we should mention history nerd. We got a
couple of other calls maybe to get to here, Buck,
yesterday was the eightieth anniversary of the flag being raised
above Iwajima. For those of you who are big time
(16:21):
history nerds. Fair to say, Buck, that's one of the
four or five most iconic photographs ever taken in American history.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I absolutely think so.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think Letters from Ewajima is an underrated war movie.
For what it is, I think it's very well done.
I know, you know it comes from the sort of
the Japanese POV. But it's Clint Eastwood movie. Have you
seen a Clay Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I have.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And The Flags of My Father's is the book that
it's based on, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
The first one. That one.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
The movie was not as good. I thought Letters from
Ewojima actually ended up being a better movie than Flags
of Our Fathers as a movie. But then again, Clay,
I saw that.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
You.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I don't even know what to say. Sometimes I feel
like I spend three hours a day with Clay. I
know this guy pretty well, and then all of a
sudden he does something and just totally blows my mind.
You think the new Beverly Hills cop movie is good.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You watch it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I thought it was I thought it was pretty good.
It felt like a nineteen eighties movie. I think you've
forgotten what it is to be a child, and so
you're looking at all this. You've lost your You've lost
your childhood. When I watch these nostalgic movies, it takes
me back to being a kid. That movie felt just
(17:42):
like a nineteen eighties cop buddy movie for your own bet,
like Beverly Hills Cop takes sports Rex from Clay.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I think the movie res he gets a time out
for a while here actual f You know what, most
people agreed with me. It was not bad.
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If you like Beverly Hills Cop, I'm sorry that Buck
as awful taste, But I do have good taste sometimes
on prize picks when it comes to getting everybody hooked
up and making sure that you can take advantage of
NCUBLEA tournament March madness, Buck, did you ever fill out
a bracket? I don't remember. Bucks never filled out a bracket.
But we'll be making some NCAA tournament picks. That's gonna
(18:19):
happen in the next couple of weeks. But in the meantime,
you've got NBA. You've got Major League Baseball pitchers and
catchers back underway. Spring training is happening. It will not
be very long now next month until the season starts again.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
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We've got a lot to continue to update you on,
including President Trump with Emmanuel McCrone, the leader of France,
in the Oval Office a few minutes ago. But I
wanted to hit this because it became a big story
over the weekend. Buck even that I bet you saw
and I mentioned it off the top, but a little
bit more detail. The Philadelphia Eagles, as many of you,
(19:18):
certainly in the Philadelphia area will remember, won the Super
Bowl and there has been a lot of talk about
teams visiting the Super Bowl and a team's visiting the
White House after winning the Super Bowl or after winning
their championships. A story went megaviral over the weekend. Everybody
was reacting to it. I bet a lot of you
(19:40):
saw it maybe come across your social feeds, and it's
just not true. And that report was that the Eagles
had turned down an invitation to the White House and
were going to basically thumb their nose at Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
That hasn't happened. It is fake news.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I talked to someone inside the White House who confirmed
for me and wanted me to put it out to
the public that there had been no invite extended. In fact,
that most of those invites don't happen until the summer.
I mean, this just happened with the Super Bowl, and
there have been other reports since saying that the Eagles
are likely to end up taking a invite to the
(20:21):
White House and meeting with Trump, as championship teams often do,
and as the Florida Panthers have already done the NHL
champion So I wanted to put that out there because
a lot of people were reacting angrily to a report
that came out of a British tabloid that is an
anonymous source and buck Sometimes it's interesting how stories go megaviral.
(20:44):
Sometimes you or I are involved in a story that
might go megaviral and you're like, I don't really remember
saying that, or I don't remember doing that. These aggregating
sites can take a sentence and then they play on
it and it blows up and it actually is not
the truth and maybe not even representative of what someone said.
So that is out there. I wanted to put that
(21:05):
to rest. To the extent that you guys are paying attention,
maybe you can celebrate by watching axel F, which is
a phenomenal movie available on Netflix right now.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I think you all know whose movie tasteed. Trust our
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who watched lives of others. Go watch axel F and
then tell me who you should be listening to for
movie recommendations.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Okay, again, if you like nineteen eighties buddy cops, it's
very nineteen eighties buddy cop like speaking of like we.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Appreciate it before we go.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I just I would like to note that when you're
talking about the Eagles, I did call that my beloved
Eagles Fly, Eagles Fly would win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Was it a coin toss? Was it fifty to fifty? Sure?
But I did get it right, So I'm gonna take
it I was wrong. Yeah, I was wrong. I had
the chiefs.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Buck had the eagles, and he is the big winner
e a G L e s unlike the mayor.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We can actually spell eagles. That point. We wanted to
mention this too.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Our friend Dan Bongino has been elevated to second place
in the FBI, Deputy.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Director of the fabual Investigation. And I absolutely this is
great for the country. Dan is a patriot, He is
a true law enforcement officer by trade, NYPD secret Service.
Him running the number two spot at the FBI, He's
going to be absolutely fantastic. He loves the country. He's
(22:29):
a fighter, and we could not wish him more well
in this than we do. And I know so many
of you are already writing in to tell him that
this is great. I mean the Cash and Bongino team
at FBI. I will tell you people at the FBI
who have become partisan hacks and have used the powers
(22:50):
of law enforcement to chase political agendas and to try
to ruin people, they should be concerned because justice, I
think is coming. They should actually be concerned about their
professional future. For sure, I will say that it is
not You know, if I if I knew somebody inside
the FBI, he was like I was a.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Part of the Komi team and I was trying to
do Russia collusion, and I was I would say, you
should probably lawyer up and think about a new career.
We worked behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
We can say it now because he's been confirmed to
try to get cash that FBI job and uh and
and help to get him across the finish line. I
think as we did for a lot of different people
in the cabinet. But Bongino has put down the microphone.
He's got a podcast, radio show, been very successful, does
a lot of work with Rumble, which is a competitor
(23:39):
of YouTube. Again, I'm impressed with the hard work that
he has put into the into the universe, and he's
been very successful at it. And credit to him and
to the Trump team for continuing to put together a
real collection of difference makers. I think, let's be candid.
You know, people say disruptor. I actually prefer what you said,
(24:00):
which is a difference maker, because it's not just you know,
anyone can go in and like smash up the shop,
but no, this is about picking where you're going to
make those differences, picking what you're going you know, Yeah,
you got to get rid of the bad stuff, but
you've also got to bring good stuff into the mix.
And I think that there's another kind of.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
A a more of a a of a throwback here
to the sense that we had of this country even
at the founding.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And I mean, like the very earliest days.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Of We don't need to have people who all they
ever do is figure out how to get donor money
to stay in their job in politics. You know, we
don't actually have to be a country ruled by pelosis
in McConnell's. We don't have to do that, and we
don't have to only have people who have spent This
is the bureaucratic equivalent of what I just laid out
of the political you know, the elected office side. It
(24:50):
doesn't have to be I've been in the FBI for
twenty five years, so I'm the only person who can
run the FBI.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
That's just not that's I think we've seen what that
leads to.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think that there's a lot of institutional capture that
the Left has been able to engage in because of
the nature of these bureaucracies. And I think that bringing
people in who have we going to say, real world experience,
it's more just a realistic view of the world. Yeah,
I don't want people running any of these agencies who
think that it is okay for the people working in
(25:24):
these agencies to assume that they have a job forever,
no matter whether they do it well or not. That's
that shouldn't be okay. But if you come from within
these bureaucracies, that is the mentality. So it's a bit
of the uh. You know, there used to be an
old in ancient Rome. It was like you're you're you're
a soldier, and then you're a businessman, and then you're
(25:45):
a statesman.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
You know, this is sort of a.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Way that people would go through a kind of idealized
view for men of the life that they could lead. Right,
you go through these different phases of life. I think
that's a much healthier thing. It's actually government sant to
say this for someone like Dan, for someone like Dan
Bongino to go work is actually serving the government, to
serve the country, to serve the people. It's not self service.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What we see is a.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Lot of people who honestly don't have other options, who
just kind of sit around to the bloated bureaucracy and
ride that train as far as they can. No, Now
we've got Elon and Bongino, and you know these other
individuals who are coming together.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I mean you look at me.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Even what's FBI Director Cash. You know, he had a
very lucrative private sector career that he's left behind now
to do this. So this is something that I think
we want to see a lot more of. And I
can't say enough good things about the trend.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And to your point, I think that Trump administration has
more people now working in it who were successful in
the private sector, probably than we've ever seen in any administration.
I mean, you mentioned Bongino, who obviously is leaving behind
way more money to go take this job. Certainly, look
at Scott Bessent, look at Howard Ludnik. I mean, these
(27:05):
are guys who were making money hand over fist. Look
at Trump himself when he got.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Into Trump and yeah, he is a billionaire, could play
golf the rest of his life and be very happy,
and he decided to go right back into the Mailstrom.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And Elon, obviously, who's the richest person in the world.
We talked with one of the guys who's doing this,
David Sachs, who is again, these are people who are
independently wealthy that have the ability to make great sums
of money and have decided, hey, I want to give
something back public service. To your point on behalf of
the nation. I think it's something that we should really
(27:38):
be applauding. So congrats to Dan Bongino. I wanted to
play this because I thought it was kind of funny.
Here buck this is. I mentioned that Trump was meeting
with Macrone, the president of France. Here is a throwback
to Trump discussing the meeting that they had back in
twenty seventeen in his first term.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Listen to cut tent.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
I just want to tell you a little sir. So
we were at the Eiffel Tower having dinner with your
wonderful wife and with my wonderful wife, and we came
out and he started speaking the French deal, and we
didn't have an interpreter, and he was going on and
on and on, and I was just nodding yes, yes, yes.
And he really sold me at because I got back
the next d I read the papers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I said, that's not what we said.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
He's a smart customer. I will tell you that that wasn't.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Exactly what we agreed to.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Very funny if you remember that visit, it was layered
in a lot of pomp and circumstance when Trump went
to France for one of his first, maybe his first
international visit as president in the summer of twenty seventeen,
if I remember correctly, because I think I was over
there with my family when he happened to visit in
the pomp and circumstance was really kind of overwhelming. All right, Buck,
(28:57):
you can close this out here on this segment. We'll
take some of your when we come back eight hundred
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and we really pick our people one their great hosts
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A lot of the moms like to listen to normally with.
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should definitely check that out. All right, we've got people
(31:32):
weighing in here. Since I'm since I'm bringing us back
on this segment, I'm gonna go right to Michael and
Charleston South Carolina. Michael, you wanted to you wanted to
tell us your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Yeah, what's up? Buck? Absolutely love listening to you, man, Clay,
You're pretty good too. I just want to say that,
after having endorsed anyone but you for Valentine's Day and
now Beverly Hills Coop, Clay should not be allowed to
(32:04):
speak about movies in the future any longer.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Wow, he's pulling your movie review card. Clay.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
First of all, I apologize for still having a childlike
sensibility glee optimism in my day as opposed to all
of you, you scoundrels out there. They look on the
bad side of life. Look, I didn't say Beverly Hills
Cop was Citizen Kane.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
All right. It's not the greatest movie that's ever been made.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It was a homage to nineteen eighties buddy cop movies,
and I liked it. And most of the people I
will say who read on Twitter reacted. I didn't know
what the reaction was gonna be. Most of them agreed
with me. So why do you have such a heart
of stone? I guess is my question for you.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I just feel like I'm gonna put this to Michael. Michael,
I think Clay is a repeat offender. In this regard
think I think we're maybe even at the three strikes
in your out rule, because he also thought Gladiator.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Two was good, which is I couldn't. I couldn't even
get through that on a plane.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I was stuck in a plane and it was all
I had to watch, and I had to turn it
off and just stare at the stare at the window.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Reason Dinzel did that was for money.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, to me, okay, hold on, to be fair, how
many jobs have you done for free?
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Fair?
Speaker 7 (33:29):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And actually I saw a quote.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
If this is from Dinzel hold On Michael hold On
Denzel in an interview I was reading this weekend. Somebody said,
you've been criticized for doing Gladiator two for money, and
he said, of course I did it for money. He said,
I've never done a movie for any reason other than money, Right, Like,
if you're not doing something for free, then you're probably
choosing to do it for me.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Well, it's not that he got paid, it's that he
could have done any project he wanted, Clay, but he's
already very wealthy and one of the greatest actors of
his generation, and he probably could have been. Okay, passing
on this particular product. I gave it a seven out
of ten. I think that's a reasonable number. I mean
three three. Did you see anything but you no that one? Michael?
(34:14):
Did you see that one? You're you gotta you gotta
fill at Clay on your own on that one.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Did you see it? Which one comedy or anyone?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
But you no?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
I watched the trailer and was like, I don't know
how this made it to production.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
See there we go, Michael.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Thank you for calling in speaking subsanity to Clay. You know,
I'm just I'm trying to help him with his cinematic
taste a little bit. This is what I'm here for.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I will say this again, anyone but you as romantic
comedies go pretty funny. I watched it on an airplane flight.
There haven't been that many good romantic comedies in a
long time. So if you had to watch a romantic
comedy with your wife or your girlfriend, I thought it
was pretty good. Glin Is with the blonde lady who
is a buxom boom Yeah, Glenn Powell good looking guy,
(35:05):
Sidney Sweeney good looking girl, a little bit of eye
candy in both directions, good humor. I I don't think
there's anything wrong with that, with that endorsement of any
of these movies. I'm not saying they're the greatest films
that have ever been.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Made, but pretty entertaining.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
By the way, Joy Reid apparently we just saw this
now crying crying with the with the removal from MS
at MSNBC.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Uh do we are we going to address this tomorrow?
Are we going to percent?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
We will play Joy Reid crying tomorrow, so we will
continue to tap dance on her career being over, and
we'll take more of your calls. But I apologize to
all of you because Buck has lost that loving feeling.
He's lost the ability to experience childlike glee. In fact,
if he watched Goonies tonight, he would come back to
you and he would say, there's no way that ship
(35:59):
would still form.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I want to tell you what have been found.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What Clay has shown you here is that not only
would he be a very good defense attorney for you,
he would be a good defense attorney for you, especially
if you were guilty as all hell okay, because he
could take any position. Clay could have been on the
OJ team and would have been a rock star because
he could take any position and make it work. Because
(36:23):
I'm telling you Gladiator too, trash trash movie.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Just enjoy life and watch. Axel left Travis and Buck
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