October 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a politically charged and culturally provocative segment, recorded live from Fort Wayne, Indiana, in celebration of the 100th anniversary of their affiliate station. This hour dives deep into the 2026 election cycle, with a sharp focus on battleground states like Texas and Maine, and features commentary on controversial Democratic candidates, identity politics, and the evolving media landscape—all under the leadership of current President Donald Trump. The show opens with analysis of upcoming elections in New Jersey, Virginia, and New York City, setting the stage for broader discussions about the 2026 primaries. Maine’s Senate race takes center stage as hosts dissect the candidacy of Democrat Graham Plattner, a far-left former Marine embroiled in scandal over a Nazi SS tattoo. His opponent, Governor Janet Mills, is also scrutinized for her past clash with President Trump over transgender athletes in girls’ sports. The hosts question whether Nazi affiliations are politically disqualifying for Democrats, sparking debate on the left’s shifting ideological boundaries. Clay and Buck expand the conversation to critique the collapse of the Obama-era identity politics coalition, highlighting President Trump’s unexpected gains among Hispanic voters in 2024. They argue that Democrats’ demographic strategies have backfired, and that overuse of terms like “fascist” and “Nazi” has desensitized the public. Antifa is called out for embodying fascist traits, and the left is accused of lacking irony and accountability. Texas enters the spotlight with speculation around Jasmine Crockett’s potential Senate run. The hosts predict she could win the Democratic nomination but lose the general election, citing her rise to fame through provocative statements. This segues into a broader media strategy discussion, where Clay and Buck advise aspiring podcasters to gain attention by saying outrageous things—satirically suggesting claims like Abraham Lincoln being a chameleon alien. Florida’s governance is praised through an interview with Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins, who outlines a bold plan to eliminate property taxes on homesteaded properties via ballot initiative. He emphasizes fiscal responsibility, alternative funding methods, and the importance of voter engagement. Collins also hints at a possible gubernatorial run following Governor Ron DeSantis’s term limit, calling DeSantis the greatest governor in Florida—and possibly U.S.—history. The hour also features endorsements for Cozy Earth sheets and Rapid Radios, along with a heartfelt promotion for Preborn clinics, which have saved over 67,000 babies in 2025 through free ultrasounds and support for pregnant women. The segment closes with listener feedback, humorous banter about Gavin Newsom’s appearance, and reflections on New York City’s political future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be coming to you from Fort Wayne, Indiana
one hundredth anniversary of our affiliate station here Whoo. You
can listen to us on ninety two point three FM
in this area eleven ninety am. And we're going to
be having a big event to help them celebrate when
(00:25):
we finish the program today. We've been talking about thirteen
days away from voters officially deciding in New Jersey, Virginia,
and New York City who will be leading them going forward.
But there's also starting the process and it's becoming a
big deal in many of the different states where all
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of you are listening to us right now for the
primaries associated with twenty twenty six, and for instance, Texas
has got a ton of big elections coming up in March,
which will be here very soon, about six months from now,
and one of the top battleground states of twenty twenty
(01:06):
six is going to be Maine and Susan Collins has
been the Senator from Maine Republican for a long time.
People expected her to lose. If you remember this well
Buck in twenty twenty, she was seen as a huge underdog,
never let in any poll, and then won comfortably. Now
(01:28):
there are a couple of people running against her. Janet Mills,
the current governor. You may remember her in Maine as
the person who has been defending boys being able to
play in girls' sports, and in particular got into an
argument at the White House with President Trump over this issue.
She now is in the race to try and become
(01:50):
the nominee on the Democrat side. She is running against
a guide buck named Graham Platner, and Graham Platner has
his series of scandals going on right now. But this
is a story that came out yesterday a little bit
after we got done with the show.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Is when I saw it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
He is a far left wing candidate, and he is
forty one years old.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He was a marine, and he says, I'd.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Like to apologize because I got drunk one night I'm
paraphrasing him, and decided to get a death's head symbol,
which is called I've never even seen this before, a
Totin cope. I'm not even sure exactly Tottenkoff. I'm not
sure how you pronounced this. It is a symbol adopted
(02:43):
by Nazi SS units who guarded concentration camps in World
War Two. He says, my bad, I got drunk one night.
I didn't know what it was. He said, he got
super drunk in two thousand and seven, and he chose
a terrifying looking skull. He now has had to apologize
(03:05):
for his Nazi skult. I can't believe this is real,
for his Nazi skull tattoo, and he has gone and
gotten a new tattoo to cover up the Nazi skull tattoo.
Now he also has all these different posts that they
caught from his accounts on Reddit that are considered to
be offensive. But I can only imagine the campaign staff
(03:27):
when they said, hey, people are telling us that you
have a Nazi skull tattoo.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's not true, right, that's what you're expecting, and gets
shot down, right, of course not.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
He's like, oh, yes, sorry, this one time in the Marines,
I got drunk and I got a Nazi skull tattoo.
This is a tough one, I think for the people
of Maine to deal with. But this is a democrat
and he wants everybody to know that now it's been
almost twenty years that he had the Nazi skull tattoo.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He's not actually a Nazi, and he now has has
gone and gotten a.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
New tattoo to replace the Nazi skull tattoo. Now the
controversy is a bunch of people are saying, this is
a direct quote. He's not an idiot, he's a military
history buff. This is a direct quote from one of
his friends, his former political director, who says this was
(04:22):
one hundred percent intentional. And all of this came out
because there were a lot of photos of him where
he was evidently a bartender, and he would take his
shirt off, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He would show off the tattoo. He knew it was
a Nazi tato. That's right, And where do we go
with this?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He is now running against Janet Mills, and he wants
to run against Susan Collins as the Democrat nominee. I
just think this is an all timer for the scandal.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Bucket.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If there were a Republican they said about Pete Hegseth
that his cross tattoo, the Jerusalem Cross, I believe, was
actually a Nazi symbol. Can you imagine if there were
a Republican running who had had a Nazi chess tattoo
since two thousand and seven, and he said, oh, I
didn't know. I just got drunk one night and what
(05:15):
accidentally got a Nazi symbol tattoos.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's funny because it reminds me of the scene in Succession,
a show that you and I both like a lot,
where who's the guy who's married to Shiv what's his name, Tom, Tom,
Tom Womscam sits down with the now it's supposed to
be a Republican. Of course in the show, it's a
very left wing show and its politics and so everyone
(05:39):
who's bad is Republican. But he sits down with this
Republican guy and he's like, if you ever read mind
comp and the guy's like a couple of times and
he's like a couple of times, I like, first time
wasn't really good enough for you. And he's just like,
a lot of terrible things happened, Tom. You know, millions
of Polls died, millions of German soldiers died, millions of Russians.
And he's like, I think you're missing some from the
(05:59):
till there, buddy. Yeah, I mean, but it's interesting because this.
Now you have a Democrat running who could be having
that same conversation, except it's you don't have a you
never got a Nazi tattoo on your chest, right, You're like, well,
actually kind of did get a Nazi tattoo on my chest.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You and the Democrat party now to have gotten a
Nazi tattoo on your chest certainly. I mean if if
mom Donnie can't say, hey, Hamas should put down their weapons.
It also reminds me of this a great line in succession.
The grad Mufti of Jerusalem were quite close if you
look back at that. So if you remember the situation
in succession, I thought about you when this scene happens.
(06:39):
But they're like, what kind of group of people is this?
And he was like, it's the kind of group of
people where you don't have I'm paraphrasing, where you don't
have to pretend that you liked Hamilton, Like it was
a big gathering.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
He's like, how did you describe these people?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's a huge group of people from New York who
don't pretend that they liked Hamilton. Someone says that because
I always hated Hamilton and always thought the whole thing
was totally. The Emperor has no clothes that ever had
to pretend that this was so great, and I stand
by that one hundred percent. I have been arguing for
some time that I want to do a country and
Western version of the Obama administration and have white people
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play Barack and Michelle Obama because race is just a
social construct and it doesn't matter what the race is
of anyone playing a historical figure, and see what the
reaction would be in New York City, because I tend
to think a country western version of the Obama administration
being played by white people would absolutely drive them all insane.
(07:33):
But it would be fun to contrast with Hamilton or
bridget was it Bridgerton, Yes, where they do like pride
and prejudice, except race doesn't matter, and.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That actually matters a lot. It's just you got to
have as few white people as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What's the Viking where they have like a black female
Viking and you're supposed to all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Something or other, which is their version of like a
lord or an earl's was a black woman in you know,
eight point fifty ad. Not a lot of that going on.
Actually in the Viking Viking, I'm gonna say It's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Probably pretty rare, but that would be fun, and it
would call into question. What I think all of this
represents is the rapidly collapsing identity politics coalition that Barack
Obama believed that he had built, which was going to
be generationally enduring. Because really, Buck, if you go back
and you say, okay, how did this all start. The
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whole idea with opening the borders was that it was
going to give Democrats a perpetual win in all national
politics forever.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
They wanted to make the country less white. I mean,
this was the Democratically. They see this as a political
advantage white. The fewer white people in America, the stronger
the Democrat Party becomes, which.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Has now blown up in their face because Trump won
Hispanic men and nearly one Hispanic women in twenty twenty four,
which was a calculation that Democrats never ever thought could
possibly become a reality. And what you are seeing is
a lot of people of good sense of all different
backgrounds are saying, I'm over this craziness. But I do
(09:09):
think the fact that the main Democrat primary has now
descended into a discussion about Nazi tattoos on the chest
of their top left wing candidate is somewhat representative because
people are saying, oh, he's going to have to disavow.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
My first thought was when I saw this, actually.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Is being a Nazi disqualifying for the left. Now I
think there are some people who are like, you know,
maybe we've misunderstood Hitler a little bit. I mean, it's crazy,
but that's where they are. And when you see all
the protests on the college campuses, which mercifully are over,
there's a lot of people that support this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Democrats have also made us, as in general, I think
made the American people far less sensitive, or maybe they've
desensitized us to claims that people are Nazis or fascists
because they say it so often about people who are
not that. Now, I think at some level it gets
(10:08):
you know, another person who's being accused, Eh, but is
he really he says he's not. I don't think that
this has the same sting that it would have before
they say that Donald Trum mean, they say the president
of the United States is a fascist, and they meet
a national socialist fascist, they're not. They're not comparing them
to Mussolini. They're comparing them to Hitler. And I think
that very clearly, this is this is the fallback that
(10:31):
they have. This is the the the Democrat when there's
nothing that they can say other than I don't like
you or I hate you, Fascist is the go to term,
even though they know nothing about fascism. They know nothing
about fascist movements, and if anything, the people that claim
to be antifa are among the most fascistic you'd ever find,
(10:52):
all dressed to like punching people in the face for
saying things they don't like on the streets. That seems
like fascism if you know anything about fascism. But the
one thing about Democrats you have to remember, clay or
leftists no understanding of irony whatsoever, because they have actually
no accountability and no self awareness, so irony goes way
over their heads.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So that battle is going on and it is going
to be interesting to see who ends up winning a
lot of these Democrat primary battles. I don't know do
we have the audio yet or have we been able
to track it down. Jasmine Crockett is now saying, oh yeah,
that she may enter the Senate race in Texas, which
(11:33):
is one of the greatest gifts Republicans could have because
she would win. I think the Senate nomination for Democrats
and then get smoked in the actual race.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, let's just take a moment here. I think that
increasingly in politics there are people who realize this is
true of podcasting too. You can get a lot of
attention by saying crazy things, and then once you've built
that audience, you can try to take them in a
different direction. You can say, well I'm not as crazy anymore,
but thanks for all the subscribers, or thanks for all
the donors. In politics, right, so, Jasmine Crockett, by saying
(12:08):
outlandish things, has become something of a political household name.
People know her now that would not have known her before.
And as we know, once she gets to the level
where people start writing big checks to her, if she's
going to be running in a Senate primary, it could
be it could be good politics for her. Up to
this point, we might will see to have been as
(12:29):
outlandish as she is because it makes her famous. And
fame and politics have never been more intertwined, I think
than they are now, especially given the way that social
media amplifies the craziest messages. And like I said, I
mean these days, if somebody was telling me, hey, I
want to start a podcast, you know, from scratch, and
they're like, what what do you think I should do?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Be like, you know, just say the craziest stuff imaginable
that will get people interested, and don't worry about any
of it being true or verifiable until later on. Just
say wild stuff. Say Abraham Lincoln was actually a commune
from like a four you know, from some planet somewhere else,
I mean, an actual like lizard chameleon, right, Like, say
that he was, and then say that you have sources
(13:07):
that you can't reveal, and say that you are actually
just doing the research that no one else is doing.
You'll build an audience because people be fastin at it
by this, and then you can be like, yeah, I
don't know about that. Let's talk about what you know,
let's talk about the price of oil. Like then you
can switch same things true in politics now famous on
crazy and then translate that into a movement and into dollars.
(13:29):
I don't think there's any doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Look, mom, Donnie is just trying to say now that
a lot of the things that he said in the
past he didn't actually mean. Gavin Newsome's entire presidential campaign
will be oh yeah, well, I said that, but.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I've evolved since then.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I mean, that's clearly going to be his game plan
to try to get elected president. Is I don't believe
any of the things that I argued for the past decade.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Basically that and shirts buttoned all the way down. People
like me, you know what I mean. Just he does
have a debonair look about him. Gavin's just got to
wax that chest, make sure he keeps it ready for primetime.
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(15:02):
I think it's day twenty two of this day twenty
two of a government shutdown, and things are getting a
little more a little more intense around some of the
cuts that are being made. Trump though, is standing firm
on this. When this is cut nine. They're asking if
you'll meat, if the President will meet with Schumer and Jeffries,
And here's what the Commander chief is saying. Play it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'd love to meet with them. I just want them
to open up the country feast. You know, the country
is so hot right now. And they've never voted against
you know, continuation, They've never voted again, They've never done that.
They're doing this because they have Trump derangement syndrome. But
I would love to meet. I would like to meet
with both of them, but I set one little caveat.
(15:47):
I will only meet if they let the country open.
That let the country open. The people want to go
back to work, they want to be served, they want
to they need the services of some people, and a
lot of people need the money the payroll.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, so I'll do it. As soon as they opened
up the country. I'd like to meet, open up the country.
We can have a conversation then. But Trump is not
allowing Democrats to take the treasury hostage here, and I
think he's in the right. I think he's been in
the right all along on this. And if Democrats, you know, Clay,
one thing that they've always counted on is at the
(16:21):
end of the day, they've been able to convince people
that they are better on healthcare because they've just created
this endless slush fund of taxpayer money that goes into
healthcare while it's getting more expensive and getting worse for
everybody all the time. The subsidies issue is actually a
big issue, and it could be a big issue in
the mid terms too, if people realize how screwed up
and expensive and crappy Obamacare exchanges really are based on
(16:46):
the way they're set up without all this government money
that's funneling in on top of what's already there. The Democrats'
biggest legislative achievement of the last decade is actually a disaster.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, and I actually give credit to John Stewart, who
we played yesterday pointing that out that when you provide subsidies,
you often just drive up the cost of what otherwise.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But he was making fun of everybody. He was pushing
this stuff though, this is what drives me insane. He
should say, I'm sorry everybody. I'm John Stewart. I'm a moron.
I'm the reason you have Obamacare. I made fun of
all the Republicans for wanting Graham out to dive cancer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
No, I'm not saying that he is right now. When
he was interviewing Bernie Sanders, he was pointing out why
these premiums have been skyrocketing and why every human basically
is frustrated with their insurance company on a regular basis
because you have no idea what a market based cost
should be for anything, and because you can't even figure
(17:45):
out you switch insurance providers, things cost different amounts. The
whole insurance industry as it pertains to healthcare is broken.
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are joined now by four is the Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins,
decorated Green Beret, former State Senator he's speaking at the
University of Florida Turning Point Event tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And I know you're.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The lieutenant governor, but there's kind of a job opening
going on right now at the University of Florida. When
it comes to head coach, I would imagine there'll be
a little discussion about that at the Turning Point event.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know, I think there just might be. It's a
big deal down in Gainesville. We'll see what happens. We'll see, all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Right, So you are the lieutenant governor. Obviously we've had
Ron DeSantis on this program a ton over the years.
He's done a fantastic job. James uth Meyer has done
a great job as the Attorney General. Buck is a
resident of the state of Florida, so he is one
of your constituents right now.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
As you look forward to.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What's coming, what can Floridians do to ensure that they
end up in the same good governance universe that they're
in right now.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, that's a great question, and I'll tell you what.
It comes down to a couple of things. One, you
got to dig in and know who you're voting for.
You got to look at track record. It's not just
about saying that we're gonna get things same, We're going
to do things. You got to get things done. Say
what you mean, mean what you say, follow up with actions.
Those are the things that matter. The thing that has
(20:19):
made Governor de stant is who he is. He is
a man of action. He says it, he means it,
he does it, and then he follows up and holds
people accountable. That is a great recipe for good governance.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Lieutenant Governor Collins, appreciate you being here, and yes, I
am a proud New Floridian, although I like to point
out that my wife is a born and raised Original Floridian,
so I get a little bit of a little bit
of extra authenticity there now in South Florida, Gator grad
and her family actually lives in Tallahassee, so I get
(20:53):
to spend it. I'm one of the few people I
know of who doesn't work for the government of Florida
but spends a fair amount of time in Tallahassee and
doesn't go to college there. But anyway, I'm on the
property tax issue. I want to ask you about this,
and I'm asking it because I actually think there's a
broader philosophical point here that applies to people all across
the country. The notion that you can never really own
(21:14):
your home and that you have to continuously rent it
from state and or local government, I think is problematic.
I think the notion that you can't just own a
place and stay there and that you are subject to
the constant possibility of price hikes, et cetera, is not
(21:34):
where we should be. And I know that Governor DeSantis
really wants to get rid of property tax. I know
it happens at the county and local level. Who's standing
in the way of this and how can we get
this actually done?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, so one hundred percent agree with you. The American
dream is to own your home, and you never really
own it if the government can take it from you.
So what we want to do is exempt homesteaded properties
from property tax, cut and dried. That's got to be
a ballot initiative. You know, we'll run We're going to
push the legislation to be done, to run it through
there and do all of our masks take care of this.
(22:11):
But it's going to have to go in the ballot.
People don't have to show up, They're going to have
to check the box vote yes. If they want that
to happen, but it's incumbent on us to do a
good job of presenting this. The governor is going to
bring out his approach with details here shortly, and when
he does, you know, I would love to come back
on here and hit his talking points what he's going
to do. But the fact of the matter is this.
(22:33):
It's a demnimus amount of the money dedicated that comes
to property tax. It's dedicated to homestead of properties. Between
six and eight percent of most counties budgets. Those are
the numbers we're seeing right now. That's solvable, that's achievable
to get the government out of your hometown.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is what's so important. I think, I think of
governor people hear this and they say, oh, but what
about fire and police and like, and what about schools.
What you're telling me is no, that can be that
can be funded by other means.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Oh, one hundred percent. There are ways to make this happen.
That's a small amount of your property tax budget that
comes from homestead of properties. No one's going to cut
the cops, and no one's going to cut the firefighters.
No one's going to cut education. That will not happen
in Florida. We back those people, We stand by them.
We lead the nation in many of those things. So
what do you do. We're gonna measure a little bit.
(23:24):
We're going to go in and faffo as we call it,
or doze as a as a federal government calls it
calls it, and clean up our spending in some of
these municipalities. We're going to find ways to save via
how we purchase and then you know, we're going to
go in and make sure those numbers make sense. It's
got to go in the ballot. People got to show up.
This is completely doable.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I've been playing because it would give us to get
another leg up on these fancy Tennesseeans who all are
on place team here for what's the best new red
state to move to for for people especially from the northeast.
So you know, we need we need to stay competitive.
You're with Tennessee and the Great State to Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Go ahead, clip, Jay Collins, Lieutenant Governor of Florida with
us right now. Speaking of competitive, when you see that
New York City may be poised to elect a communist
in mom Donnie as mayor, do you look around and
just expect we already know that there's been a huge
influx of New Yorkers to Florida. Buck is a good example,
(24:23):
but there are probably millions of people who live in
Florida now that had Northeastern upper you know, grew up
in the Northeast. Do you look at that and say, well,
we got a bunch more coming. Do you pay attention
to other states like that and know that Florida is
seen as a bastion of freedom?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man, what a conservative proving grounds of America. That's who
we are. America is a shining city on your hills.
I think Florida's a lake, right. We are shining on
that because we're leading the way. We're highlighting what's white
in America. The fact of the matter is this. Look,
I'm a one leg I'm a god hearing, gun loving,
freedom defending one legged retired green berated twenty three years.
(25:01):
I worked with the ESU, the NYPD, the NYFD. We
buried friends across the globe because of the War on Terror.
Of all the cities in this nation, why on earth
does Mamdani have to be elected in that city? We
really have to learn this lesson face first. How ridiculous
is this he's a watered down communist and we got
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to learn this in this city that never sleeps, in
New York City. It's absolutely bonkers. It's wrong. And yeah,
you're going to see a stream of a caravan of
people coming flee New York, just like during COVID because
of his horrible leadership. He's going to gut the state.
You know, there's work to do.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
We're speaking to the Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins of Florida, and
the lieutenant governor, as the name implies, you are second
in state leadership, are fantastic. Governor Ron desanti Is, who
you worked very closely with, is unfortunately going to be
termed out here. I know they had the No King's rally.
I don't know. Desantisising of Florida sounds nice to a
(26:01):
lot of us, but the rules are the rules. But you, sir,
would seem to be in a fantastic position to pick
up the scepter and continue the legacy. Can you speak
to that? Are you thinking about a governor's run?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah? Well, I think along and hard about this. We've
too taken a very methodic approach to this. I had
kind of a three phased approach, you know, it's a
family decision. You've got to make sure that my kids
and my wife, the things I care about most are
straight and ready, that the support structure around that, and
my local community is prepped and ready. And then it
comes down to leadership after who I believe is the goat,
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our greatest governor in the state's history, frankly, probably the
greatest governor in our nation's history. He's amazing, He's done
an incredible job. Well, my approach, my type of leadership
be what's best for Florida. It's a wee thing, not
a me thing. And I'll tell you we really finalized
kind of our approach here and we're chewing on what
are the decisions going to be. So I would say
stay tuned, well, lost information to share here soonish.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
He says, Okay, what do you think Ron de Sante
is going to do next? He's been obviously an incredibly
successful governor. As Buck said, he is term limited out,
so come next year his tenure as governor will be over.
What do you expect to see him do?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, I'll tell you what. The one thing I know
about him, he's a conservative juggernaut, right, he is brilliant.
He is hard working. No matter what he does, he's
going to make a difference because he's going to lead.
He knows what matters, he fights for it, and then
people get alongside him. You know, there will be a
lot of opportunities. Not really sure where he's going to
go yet, but I'll tell you I've been to some
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popcorn and watch because he's going to do something pretty amazing.
I'm sure. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We wish you well at the University of Florida at
the Turning Point event tonight in Gainesville. We know we
have a lot of Florida Gator fans listening. I hope
at some point they end up with a football coach again,
because he's a Tennessee fan. I'm not that ecstatic for
them to get another football coach. I'm fine with them
not having one, but a governor. We appreciate the time,
good luck at the event tonight. We're glad you're doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hey, I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Event's going to be great,
and God bless both of you. Appreciate it.
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flooding our inbox, including this one Clay VIP email from
Sherry Buck. I think you need glasses. Newsom doesn't look debonair.
He looks smarty. Well, I think you are trashing Clay
Shardonay buddy, first and foremost so that we need to
put out there. And also, I'm not saying that I
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think Newsom is debon there. I'm saying that Newsom thinks
that Newsom is a dashing and handsome and gallan felt look.
I mean he's he's a pretty good looking guy. Let's
not be weird here. Okay, you could be good looking
and still have terrible politics. Also, the standard is politicians,
I mean, Chuck Schumer, no offense. I don't think anybody's like,
let's we gotta throw our panties in Chuck Schumer's direction. Especially,
(31:24):
the standard of good looking politician is not necessarily super high, dude.
And and uh, I'm just wondering about this casting. No
stones here I got I got a little chubby after
I got married, and uh, you know, I had to
had to fight, had to fight that battle. So I'm
very sympathetic Pritzker. If he runs, does he stay at
heavy p you know, does he decide that he's gonna
(31:48):
keep on doing what he's doing, or does he do
the uh you know at Jonah Hill.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
No, I think I think it's a Jonah Hill situation.
Not that he might not recognize Hill might not recognize him.
He could he could lose probably one hundred to one
hundred and fifty pounds. That's kind of where Pritzker is.
He would look I really mean this.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
He would look like a different person, to the point
where I think it might almost be jarring to voters
if he did that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think that he sees his physical appearance as somehow
more connective with the audience than it would be if
he's skinny. It sounds crazy, but I think that's the
way he's thinking. Speaking of crazy, Joy Behar, we have
not heard producer Ali has the view responded to our
(32:35):
gallant offer to appear on the show, since they said
we're too intimidated by all of the intelligent women on
the program. That was the argument they made. No response
has yet come from the view to our gallant offer
to come on them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Were our numerous offers to Cuomo Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No response to Cuomo. We got some talkbacks on that.
Maybe I'll play that in a sec but first I
want you all to hear. Joy Behart talked in an
incredible coincidence about choking to death today on the program Listen.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I wouldn't even let him give me a Heimlich maneuver. Yeah,
that's how little I would I feel about people I
don't know. And a MAGA supporter is like calling you
right now.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Tell that Mega man. I'm not sleeping with you anymore.
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So Joy Bahar says she wouldn't let a Trump supporter
give her the Heimlich. I would give Joy Bahard the Heimlich.
That's just how much of a gentleman I am. I
wouldn't let her die on an endless shrimp special at
Red Lobster. I would. I would save her life. Now,
you're a humanitarian. I am just too kind.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
We have podcast listener Adam from Minnesota. He wants to
weigh in on the new York race. Play ge g,
this is Adam from Minnesota. I know I'm not from
New York, and I don't understand the complexities of New
York politics because they're clearly so different than everywhere else
in blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Those two ladies that called and talked to you, they
are exhibit as to why New York has lost their mind.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Your people are bat crap crazy and you can't even
see it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Curtis will never ever win. You've gone to let it go?
WHOA Minnesota coming off the top rope after NYC. Minnesota? Nice?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Not so nice on a couple of our New York
City callers, female callers who called in early.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think when they burned the downtown of your biggest city,
you know, maybe you're a little surly afterwards for a while.
It's in Minnesota, you know, once, once you've had some
of the riots and stuff that they've had. They're it's
not all like the mom from Bobby's World, though, don't
you know they're scarred? John in Oklahoma City? FF, all right,
come on playing book, you guys, ended Mike Pince of
(34:52):
course will scary you guys, fair point, But also to
be fair, it was really Clay. I was just sitting
here trying to throw in the town for Mike Pence,
and Clay like Ivan Drago decided no, he was going
to get in one more shot.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, I just think Mike Pence should have been better
prepared for maybe the most important question at that stage
of his presidential campaign. We're in Indiana, a state that
Mike Pence was governor of. I think he could probably
win statewide office again here in Indiana maybe.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But I don't think he has any national political future
well because he went full Ivan Drago, you know, and
we all know what happened to Apollo Crek. I love
Apollo Creek.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I would welcome at this point, and we've had win
some sears on, we've had Jason Miaras, we've had CIDERELLI.
I would welcome certainly, Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Lee. Heck, Mom,
Donnie would never come home. We've invited them both on
not Man Donig. We've invited Cuomo and sliwa on. So
please no more emails about why haven't we've invited. We've asked,
(35:56):
we've asked, we've asked, we're asking. So we're trying to
give the people that we need to get on here
on here.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But we can't force them. So there's that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, if they were trying to truly make a difference.
We have one of the biggest audiences in New York
City thanks to all of you that listen on w R,
a ton of listeners who are very fired up about
the New York City mayor's race. And we are perfectly
willing to give all of those people an opportunity for
everybody out there to make their best decision. But even
(36:27):
if New York picks the Communist things are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Because New York may go under the waters and disappear
as a significant city, the rest of America will benefit.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
No I was gonna say, New York is tough. You're resilient,
all right, You're the big apple. You got this.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Play.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be coming to you from Fort Wayne, Indiana
one hundredth anniversary of our affiliate station here Whoo. You
can listen to us on ninety two point three FM
in this area eleven ninety am. And we're going to
be having a big event to help them celebrate when
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we finish the program today. We've been talking about thirteen
days away from voters officially deciding in New Jersey, Virginia,
and New York City who will be leading them going forward.
But there's also starting the process and it's becoming a
big deal in many of the different states where all
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of you are listening to us right now for the
primaries associated with twenty twenty six, and for instance, Texas
has got a ton of big elections coming up in March,
which will be here very soon, about six months from now,
and one of the top battleground states of twenty twenty
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six is going to be Maine and Susan Collins has
been the Senator from Maine Republican for a long time.
People expected her to lose. If you remember this well
Buck in twenty twenty, she was seen as a huge underdog,
never let in any poll, and then won comfortably. Now
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there are a couple of people running against her. Janet Mills,
the current governor. You may remember her in Maine as
the person who has been defending boys being able to
play in girls' sports, and in particular got into an
argument at the White House with President Trump over this issue.
She now is in the race to try and become
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the nominee on the Democrat side. She is running against
a guide buck named Graham Platner, and Graham Platner has
his series of scandals going on right now. But this
is a story that came out yesterday a little bit
after we got done with the show.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Is when I saw it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
He is a far left wing candidate, and he is
forty one years old.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He was a marine, and he says, I'd.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Like to apologize because I got drunk one night I'm
paraphrasing him, and decided to get a death's head symbol,
which is called I've never even seen this before, a
Totin cope. I'm not even sure exactly Tottenkoff. I'm not
sure how you pronounced this. It is a symbol adopted
(02:43):
by Nazi SS units who guarded concentration camps in World
War Two. He says, my bad, I got drunk one night.
I didn't know what it was. He said, he got
super drunk in two thousand and seven, and he chose
a terrifying looking skull. He now has had to apologize
(03:05):
for his Nazi skult. I can't believe this is real,
for his Nazi skull tattoo, and he has gone and
gotten a new tattoo to cover up the Nazi skull tattoo.
Now he also has all these different posts that they
caught from his accounts on Reddit that are considered to
be offensive. But I can only imagine the campaign staff
(03:27):
when they said, hey, people are telling us that you
have a Nazi skull tattoo.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's not true, right, that's what you're expecting, and gets
shot down, right, of course not.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
He's like, oh, yes, sorry, this one time in the Marines,
I got drunk and I got a Nazi skull tattoo.
This is a tough one, I think for the people
of Maine to deal with. But this is a democrat
and he wants everybody to know that now it's been
almost twenty years that he had the Nazi skull tattoo.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
He's not actually a Nazi, and he now has has
gone and gotten a.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
New tattoo to replace the Nazi skull tattoo. Now the
controversy is a bunch of people are saying, this is
a direct quote. He's not an idiot, he's a military
history buff. This is a direct quote from one of
his friends, his former political director, who says this was
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one hundred percent intentional. And all of this came out
because there were a lot of photos of him where
he was evidently a bartender, and he would take his
shirt off, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He would show off the tattoo. He knew it was
a Nazi tato. That's right, And where do we go
with this?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
He is now running against Janet Mills, and he wants
to run against Susan Collins as the Democrat nominee. I
just think this is an all timer for the scandal.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Bucket.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
If there were a Republican they said about Pete Hegseth
that his cross tattoo, the Jerusalem Cross, I believe, was
actually a Nazi symbol. Can you imagine if there were
a Republican running who had had a Nazi chess tattoo
since two thousand and seven, and he said, oh, I
didn't know. I just got drunk one night and what
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accidentally got a Nazi symbol tattoos.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's funny because it reminds me of the scene in Succession,
a show that you and I both like a lot,
where who's the guy who's married to Shiv what's his name, Tom, Tom,
Tom Womscam sits down with the now it's supposed to
be a Republican. Of course in the show, it's a
very left wing show and its politics and so everyone
(05:39):
who's bad is Republican. But he sits down with this
Republican guy and he's like, if you ever read mind
comp and the guy's like a couple of times and
he's like a couple of times, I like, first time
wasn't really good enough for you. And he's just like,
a lot of terrible things happened, Tom. You know, millions
of Polls died, millions of German soldiers died, millions of Russians.
And he's like, I think you're missing some from the
(05:59):
till there, buddy. Yeah, I mean, but it's interesting because this.
Now you have a Democrat running who could be having
that same conversation, except it's you don't have a you
never got a Nazi tattoo on your chest, right, You're like, well,
actually kind of did get a Nazi tattoo on my chest.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You and the Democrat party now to have gotten a
Nazi tattoo on your chest certainly. I mean if if
mom Donnie can't say, hey, Hamas should put down their weapons.
It also reminds me of this a great line in succession.
The grad Mufti of Jerusalem were quite close if you
look back at that. So if you remember the situation
in succession, I thought about you when this scene happens.
(06:39):
But they're like, what kind of group of people is this?
And he was like, it's the kind of group of
people where you don't have I'm paraphrasing, where you don't
have to pretend that you liked Hamilton, Like it was
a big gathering.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
He's like, how did you describe these people?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's a huge group of people from New York who
don't pretend that they liked Hamilton. Someone says that because
I always hated Hamilton and always thought the whole thing
was totally. The Emperor has no clothes that ever had
to pretend that this was so great, and I stand
by that one hundred percent. I have been arguing for
some time that I want to do a country and
Western version of the Obama administration and have white people
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play Barack and Michelle Obama because race is just a
social construct and it doesn't matter what the race is
of anyone playing a historical figure, and see what the
reaction would be in New York City, because I tend
to think a country western version of the Obama administration
being played by white people would absolutely drive them all insane.
(07:33):
But it would be fun to contrast with Hamilton or
bridget was it Bridgerton, Yes, where they do like pride
and prejudice, except race doesn't matter, and.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That actually matters a lot. It's just you got to
have as few white people as possible.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
What's the Viking where they have like a black female
Viking and you're supposed to all.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Something or other, which is their version of like a
lord or an earl's was a black woman in you know,
eight point fifty ad. Not a lot of that going on.
Actually in the Viking Viking, I'm gonna say It's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Probably pretty rare, but that would be fun, and it
would call into question. What I think all of this
represents is the rapidly collapsing identity politics coalition that Barack
Obama believed that he had built, which was going to
be generationally enduring. Because really, Buck, if you go back
and you say, okay, how did this all start. The
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whole idea with opening the borders was that it was
going to give Democrats a perpetual win in all national
politics forever.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
They wanted to make the country less white. I mean,
this was the Democratically. They see this as a political
advantage white. The fewer white people in America, the stronger
the Democrat Party becomes, which.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Has now blown up in their face because Trump won
Hispanic men and nearly one Hispanic women in twenty twenty four,
which was a calculation that Democrats never ever thought could
possibly become a reality. And what you are seeing is
a lot of people of good sense of all different
backgrounds are saying, I'm over this craziness. But I do
(09:09):
think the fact that the main Democrat primary has now
descended into a discussion about Nazi tattoos on the chest
of their top left wing candidate is somewhat representative because
people are saying, oh, he's going to have to disavow.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
My first thought was when I saw this, actually.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Is being a Nazi disqualifying for the left. Now I
think there are some people who are like, you know,
maybe we've misunderstood Hitler a little bit. I mean, it's crazy,
but that's where they are. And when you see all
the protests on the college campuses, which mercifully are over,
there's a lot of people that support this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Democrats have also made us, as in general, I think
made the American people far less sensitive, or maybe they've
desensitized us to claims that people are Nazis or fascists
because they say it so often about people who are
not that. Now, I think at some level it gets
(10:08):
you know, another person who's being accused, Eh, but is
he really he says he's not. I don't think that
this has the same sting that it would have before
they say that Donald Trum mean, they say the president
of the United States is a fascist, and they meet
a national socialist fascist, they're not. They're not comparing them
to Mussolini. They're comparing them to Hitler. And I think
that very clearly, this is this is the fallback that
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they have. This is the the the Democrat when there's
nothing that they can say other than I don't like
you or I hate you, Fascist is the go to term,
even though they know nothing about fascism. They know nothing
about fascist movements, and if anything, the people that claim
to be antifa are among the most fascistic you'd ever find,
(10:52):
all dressed to like punching people in the face for
saying things they don't like on the streets. That seems
like fascism if you know anything about fascism. But the
one thing about Democrats you have to remember, clay or
leftists no understanding of irony whatsoever, because they have actually
no accountability and no self awareness, so irony goes way
over their heads.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So that battle is going on and it is going
to be interesting to see who ends up winning a
lot of these Democrat primary battles. I don't know do
we have the audio yet or have we been able
to track it down. Jasmine Crockett is now saying, oh yeah,
that she may enter the Senate race in Texas, which
(11:33):
is one of the greatest gifts Republicans could have because
she would win. I think the Senate nomination for Democrats
and then get smoked in the actual race.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Well, let's just take a moment here. I think that
increasingly in politics there are people who realize this is
true of podcasting too. You can get a lot of
attention by saying crazy things, and then once you've built
that audience, you can try to take them in a
different direction. You can say, well I'm not as crazy anymore,
but thanks for all the subscribers, or thanks for all
the donors. In politics, right, so, Jasmine Crockett, by saying
(12:08):
outlandish things, has become something of a political household name.
People know her now that would not have known her before.
And as we know, once she gets to the level
where people start writing big checks to her, if she's
going to be running in a Senate primary, it could
be it could be good politics for her. Up to
this point, we might will see to have been as
(12:29):
outlandish as she is because it makes her famous. And
fame and politics have never been more intertwined, I think
than they are now, especially given the way that social
media amplifies the craziest messages. And like I said, I
mean these days, if somebody was telling me, hey, I
want to start a podcast, you know, from scratch, and
they're like, what what do you think I should do?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
It?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Be like, you know, just say the craziest stuff imaginable
that will get people interested, and don't worry about any
of it being true or verifiable until later on. Just
say wild stuff. Say Abraham Lincoln was actually a commune
from like a four you know, from some planet somewhere else,
I mean, an actual like lizard chameleon, right, Like, say
that he was, and then say that you have sources
(13:07):
that you can't reveal, and say that you are actually
just doing the research that no one else is doing.
You'll build an audience because people be fastin at it
by this, and then you can be like, yeah, I
don't know about that. Let's talk about what you know,
let's talk about the price of oil. Like then you
can switch same things true in politics now famous on
crazy and then translate that into a movement and into dollars.
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I don't think there's any doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Look, mom, Donnie is just trying to say now that
a lot of the things that he said in the
past he didn't actually mean. Gavin Newsome's entire presidential campaign
will be oh yeah, well, I said that, but.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I've evolved since then.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I mean, that's clearly going to be his game plan
to try to get elected president. Is I don't believe
any of the things that I argued for the past decade.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Basically that and shirts buttoned all the way down. People
like me, you know what I mean. Just he does
have a debonair look about him. Gavin's just got to
wax that chest, make sure he keeps it ready for primetime.
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(15:02):
I think it's day twenty two of this day twenty
two of a government shutdown, and things are getting a
little more a little more intense around some of the
cuts that are being made. Trump though, is standing firm
on this. When this is cut nine. They're asking if
you'll meat, if the President will meet with Schumer and Jeffries,
And here's what the Commander chief is saying. Play it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I'd love to meet with them. I just want them
to open up the country feast. You know, the country
is so hot right now. And they've never voted against
you know, continuation, They've never voted again, They've never done that.
They're doing this because they have Trump derangement syndrome. But
I would love to meet. I would like to meet
with both of them, but I set one little caveat.
(15:47):
I will only meet if they let the country open.
That let the country open. The people want to go
back to work, they want to be served, they want
to they need the services of some people, and a
lot of people need the money the payroll.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, so I'll do it. As soon as they opened
up the country. I'd like to meet, open up the country.
We can have a conversation then. But Trump is not
allowing Democrats to take the treasury hostage here, and I
think he's in the right. I think he's been in
the right all along on this. And if Democrats, you know, Clay,
one thing that they've always counted on is at the
(16:21):
end of the day, they've been able to convince people
that they are better on healthcare because they've just created
this endless slush fund of taxpayer money that goes into
healthcare while it's getting more expensive and getting worse for
everybody all the time. The subsidies issue is actually a
big issue, and it could be a big issue in
the mid terms too, if people realize how screwed up
and expensive and crappy Obamacare exchanges really are based on
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the way they're set up without all this government money
that's funneling in on top of what's already there. The Democrats'
biggest legislative achievement of the last decade is actually a disaster.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, and I actually give credit to John Stewart, who
we played yesterday pointing that out that when you provide subsidies,
you often just drive up the cost of what otherwise.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But he was making fun of everybody. He was pushing
this stuff though, this is what drives me insane. He
should say, I'm sorry everybody. I'm John Stewart. I'm a moron.
I'm the reason you have Obamacare. I made fun of
all the Republicans for wanting Graham out to dive cancer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
No, I'm not saying that he is right now. When
he was interviewing Bernie Sanders, he was pointing out why
these premiums have been skyrocketing and why every human basically
is frustrated with their insurance company on a regular basis
because you have no idea what a market based cost
should be for anything, and because you can't even figure
(17:45):
out you switch insurance providers, things cost different amounts. The
whole insurance industry as it pertains to healthcare is broken.
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are joined now by four is the Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins,
decorated Green Beret, former State Senator he's speaking at the
University of Florida Turning Point Event tonight.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And I know you're.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The lieutenant governor, but there's kind of a job opening
going on right now at the University of Florida. When
it comes to head coach, I would imagine there'll be
a little discussion about that at the Turning Point event.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
You know, I think there just might be. It's a
big deal down in Gainesville. We'll see what happens. We'll see, all.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Right, So you are the lieutenant governor. Obviously we've had
Ron DeSantis on this program a ton over the years.
He's done a fantastic job. James uth Meyer has done
a great job as the Attorney General. Buck is a
resident of the state of Florida, so he is one
of your constituents right now.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
As you look forward to.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What's coming, what can Floridians do to ensure that they
end up in the same good governance universe that they're
in right now.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well, that's a great question, and I'll tell you what.
It comes down to a couple of things. One, you
got to dig in and know who you're voting for.
You got to look at track record. It's not just
about saying that we're gonna get things same, We're going
to do things. You got to get things done. Say
what you mean, mean what you say, follow up with actions.
Those are the things that matter. The thing that has
(20:19):
made Governor de stant is who he is. He is
a man of action. He says it, he means it,
he does it, and then he follows up and holds
people accountable. That is a great recipe for good governance.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Lieutenant Governor Collins, appreciate you being here, and yes, I
am a proud New Floridian, although I like to point
out that my wife is a born and raised Original Floridian,
so I get a little bit of a little bit
of extra authenticity there now in South Florida, Gator grad
and her family actually lives in Tallahassee, so I get
(20:53):
to spend it. I'm one of the few people I
know of who doesn't work for the government of Florida
but spends a fair amount of time in Tallahassee and
doesn't go to college there. But anyway, I'm on the
property tax issue. I want to ask you about this,
and I'm asking it because I actually think there's a
broader philosophical point here that applies to people all across
the country. The notion that you can never really own
(21:14):
your home and that you have to continuously rent it
from state and or local government, I think is problematic.
I think the notion that you can't just own a
place and stay there and that you are subject to
the constant possibility of price hikes, et cetera, is not
(21:34):
where we should be. And I know that Governor DeSantis
really wants to get rid of property tax. I know
it happens at the county and local level. Who's standing
in the way of this and how can we get
this actually done?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, so one hundred percent agree with you. The American
dream is to own your home, and you never really
own it if the government can take it from you.
So what we want to do is exempt homesteaded properties
from property tax, cut and dried. That's got to be
a ballot initiative. You know, we'll run We're going to
push the legislation to be done, to run it through
there and do all of our masks take care of this.
(22:11):
But it's going to have to go in the ballot.
People don't have to show up, They're going to have
to check the box vote yes. If they want that
to happen, but it's incumbent on us to do a
good job of presenting this. The governor is going to
bring out his approach with details here shortly, and when
he does, you know, I would love to come back
on here and hit his talking points what he's going
to do. But the fact of the matter is this.
(22:33):
It's a demnimus amount of the money dedicated that comes
to property tax. It's dedicated to homestead of properties. Between
six and eight percent of most counties budgets. Those are
the numbers we're seeing right now. That's solvable, that's achievable
to get the government out of your hometown.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is what's so important. I think, I think of
governor people hear this and they say, oh, but what
about fire and police and like, and what about schools.
What you're telling me is no, that can be that
can be funded by other means.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Oh, one hundred percent. There are ways to make this happen.
That's a small amount of your property tax budget that
comes from homestead of properties. No one's going to cut
the cops, and no one's going to cut the firefighters.
No one's going to cut education. That will not happen
in Florida. We back those people, We stand by them.
We lead the nation in many of those things. So
what do you do. We're gonna measure a little bit.
(23:24):
We're going to go in and faffo as we call it,
or doze as a as a federal government calls it
calls it, and clean up our spending in some of
these municipalities. We're going to find ways to save via
how we purchase and then you know, we're going to
go in and make sure those numbers make sense. It's
got to go in the ballot. People got to show up.
This is completely doable.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I've been playing because it would give us to get
another leg up on these fancy Tennesseeans who all are
on place team here for what's the best new red
state to move to for for people especially from the northeast.
So you know, we need we need to stay competitive.
You're with Tennessee and the Great State to Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Go ahead, clip, Jay Collins, Lieutenant Governor of Florida with
us right now. Speaking of competitive, when you see that
New York City may be poised to elect a communist
in mom Donnie as mayor, do you look around and
just expect we already know that there's been a huge
influx of New Yorkers to Florida. Buck is a good example,
(24:23):
but there are probably millions of people who live in
Florida now that had Northeastern upper you know, grew up
in the Northeast. Do you look at that and say, well,
we got a bunch more coming. Do you pay attention
to other states like that and know that Florida is
seen as a bastion of freedom?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Man, what a conservative proving grounds of America. That's who
we are. America is a shining city on your hills.
I think Florida's a lake, right. We are shining on
that because we're leading the way. We're highlighting what's white
in America. The fact of the matter is this. Look,
I'm a one leg I'm a god hearing, gun loving,
freedom defending one legged retired green berated twenty three years.
(25:01):
I worked with the ESU, the NYPD, the NYFD. We
buried friends across the globe because of the War on Terror.
Of all the cities in this nation, why on earth
does Mamdani have to be elected in that city? We
really have to learn this lesson face first. How ridiculous
is this he's a watered down communist and we got
(25:23):
to learn this in this city that never sleeps, in
New York City. It's absolutely bonkers. It's wrong. And yeah,
you're going to see a stream of a caravan of
people coming flee New York, just like during COVID because
of his horrible leadership. He's going to gut the state.
You know, there's work to do.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
We're speaking to the Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins of Florida, and
the lieutenant governor, as the name implies, you are second
in state leadership, are fantastic. Governor Ron desanti Is, who
you worked very closely with, is unfortunately going to be
termed out here. I know they had the No King's rally.
I don't know. Desantisising of Florida sounds nice to a
(26:01):
lot of us, but the rules are the rules. But you, sir,
would seem to be in a fantastic position to pick
up the scepter and continue the legacy. Can you speak
to that? Are you thinking about a governor's run?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah? Well, I think along and hard about this. We've
too taken a very methodic approach to this. I had
kind of a three phased approach, you know, it's a
family decision. You've got to make sure that my kids
and my wife, the things I care about most are
straight and ready, that the support structure around that, and
my local community is prepped and ready. And then it
comes down to leadership after who I believe is the goat,
(26:35):
our greatest governor in the state's history, frankly, probably the
greatest governor in our nation's history. He's amazing, He's done
an incredible job. Well, my approach, my type of leadership
be what's best for Florida. It's a wee thing, not
a me thing. And I'll tell you we really finalized
kind of our approach here and we're chewing on what
are the decisions going to be. So I would say
stay tuned, well, lost information to share here soonish.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
He says, Okay, what do you think Ron de Sante
is going to do next? He's been obviously an incredibly
successful governor. As Buck said, he is term limited out,
so come next year his tenure as governor will be over.
What do you expect to see him do?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, I'll tell you what. The one thing I know
about him, he's a conservative juggernaut, right, he is brilliant.
He is hard working. No matter what he does, he's
going to make a difference because he's going to lead.
He knows what matters, he fights for it, and then
people get alongside him. You know, there will be a
lot of opportunities. Not really sure where he's going to
go yet, but I'll tell you I've been to some
(27:37):
popcorn and watch because he's going to do something pretty amazing.
I'm sure. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
We wish you well at the University of Florida at
the Turning Point event tonight in Gainesville. We know we
have a lot of Florida Gator fans listening. I hope
at some point they end up with a football coach again,
because he's a Tennessee fan. I'm not that ecstatic for
them to get another football coach. I'm fine with them
not having one, but a governor. We appreciate the time,
good luck at the event tonight. We're glad you're doing it.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hey, I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Event's going to be great,
and God bless both of you. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
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flooding our inbox, including this one Clay VIP email from
Sherry Buck. I think you need glasses. Newsom doesn't look debonair.
He looks smarty. Well, I think you are trashing Clay
Shardonay buddy, first and foremost so that we need to
put out there. And also, I'm not saying that I
(31:03):
think Newsom is debon there. I'm saying that Newsom thinks
that Newsom is a dashing and handsome and gallan felt look.
I mean he's he's a pretty good looking guy. Let's
not be weird here. Okay, you could be good looking
and still have terrible politics. Also, the standard is politicians,
I mean, Chuck Schumer, no offense. I don't think anybody's like,
let's we gotta throw our panties in Chuck Schumer's direction. Especially,
(31:24):
the standard of good looking politician is not necessarily super high, dude.
And and uh, I'm just wondering about this casting. No
stones here I got I got a little chubby after
I got married, and uh, you know, I had to
had to fight, had to fight that battle. So I'm
very sympathetic Pritzker. If he runs, does he stay at
heavy p you know, does he decide that he's gonna
(31:48):
keep on doing what he's doing, or does he do
the uh you know at Jonah Hill.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
No, I think I think it's a Jonah Hill situation.
Not that he might not recognize Hill might not recognize him.
He could he could lose probably one hundred to one
hundred and fifty pounds. That's kind of where Pritzker is.
He would look I really mean this.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
He would look like a different person, to the point
where I think it might almost be jarring to voters
if he did that.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think that he sees his physical appearance as somehow
more connective with the audience than it would be if
he's skinny. It sounds crazy, but I think that's the
way he's thinking. Speaking of crazy, Joy Behar, we have
not heard producer Ali has the view responded to our
(32:35):
gallant offer to appear on the show, since they said
we're too intimidated by all of the intelligent women on
the program. That was the argument they made. No response
has yet come from the view to our gallant offer
to come on them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Were our numerous offers to Cuomo Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No response to Cuomo. We got some talkbacks on that.
Maybe I'll play that in a sec but first I
want you all to hear. Joy Behart talked in an
incredible coincidence about choking to death today on the program Listen.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I wouldn't even let him give me a Heimlich maneuver. Yeah,
that's how little I would I feel about people I
don't know. And a MAGA supporter is like calling you
right now.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Tell that Mega man. I'm not sleeping with you anymore.
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So Joy Bahar says she wouldn't let a Trump supporter
give her the Heimlich. I would give Joy Bahard the Heimlich.
That's just how much of a gentleman I am. I
wouldn't let her die on an endless shrimp special at
Red Lobster. I would. I would save her life. Now,
you're a humanitarian. I am just too kind.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
We have podcast listener Adam from Minnesota. He wants to
weigh in on the new York race. Play ge g,
this is Adam from Minnesota. I know I'm not from
New York, and I don't understand the complexities of New
York politics because they're clearly so different than everywhere else
in blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Those two ladies that called and talked to you, they
are exhibit as to why New York has lost their mind.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Your people are bat crap crazy and you can't even
see it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Curtis will never ever win. You've gone to let it go?
WHOA Minnesota coming off the top rope after NYC. Minnesota? Nice?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Not so nice on a couple of our New York
City callers, female callers who called in early.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think when they burned the downtown of your biggest city,
you know, maybe you're a little surly afterwards for a while.
It's in Minnesota, you know, once, once you've had some
of the riots and stuff that they've had. They're it's
not all like the mom from Bobby's World, though, don't
you know they're scarred? John in Oklahoma City? FF, all right,
come on playing book, you guys, ended Mike Pince of
(34:52):
course will scary you guys, fair point, But also to
be fair, it was really Clay. I was just sitting
here trying to throw in the town for Mike Pence,
and Clay like Ivan Drago decided no, he was going
to get in one more shot.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, I just think Mike Pence should have been better
prepared for maybe the most important question at that stage
of his presidential campaign. We're in Indiana, a state that
Mike Pence was governor of. I think he could probably
win statewide office again here in Indiana maybe.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
But I don't think he has any national political future
well because he went full Ivan Drago, you know, and
we all know what happened to Apollo Crek. I love
Apollo Creek.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I would welcome at this point, and we've had win
some sears on, we've had Jason Miaras, we've had CIDERELLI.
I would welcome certainly, Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Lee. Heck, Mom,
Donnie would never come home. We've invited them both on
not Man Donig. We've invited Cuomo and sliwa on. So
please no more emails about why haven't we've invited. We've asked,
(35:56):
we've asked, we've asked, we're asking. So we're trying to
give the people that we need to get on here
on here.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
But we can't force them. So there's that.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, if they were trying to truly make a difference.
We have one of the biggest audiences in New York
City thanks to all of you that listen on w R,
a ton of listeners who are very fired up about
the New York City mayor's race. And we are perfectly
willing to give all of those people an opportunity for
everybody out there to make their best decision. But even
(36:27):
if New York picks the Communist things are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Because New York may go under the waters and disappear
as a significant city, the rest of America will benefit.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
No I was gonna say, New York is tough. You're resilient,
all right, You're the big apple. You got this.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Play.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
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