December 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives deep into political intrigue, California chaos, and explosive legal controversies. The hour kicks off with Katie Zacharia, a California-based legal and political strategist, joining Clay and Buck to break down the looming Democratic primary showdown between Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom. Despite Harris’ poor performance as Vice President, national polling shows her edging out Newsom, sparking speculation about the DNC’s strategy and whether South Carolina will once again be the first primary state—a move that could guarantee Harris an early win thanks to James Clyburn’s influence.
Katie also exposes California’s education crisis, citing shocking statistics: Los Angeles public schools have lost 26% of their students over the past decade while increasing staff by nearly 20%. California ranks dead last in literacy nationwide, with only 37% of students meeting math standards. Zachariah blames entrenched teachers’ unions and a Democrat supermajority for blocking school choice and vouchers, leaving parents desperate for alternatives.
The conversation shifts to the Malibu wildfire aftermath, where nearly a year later, burned lots remain vacant and rebuilding has stalled. Katie alleges that bureaucratic red tape and Gavin Newsom’s rezoning agenda are forcing homeowners out, paving the way for developers and low-income housing projects. She warns that without voter ID and election integrity reforms, Republicans like Steve Hilton face an uphill battle in California despite growing frustration with Democrat mismanagement.
In a bombshell segment, Clay and Buck dissect the Fani Willis scandal after her Trump RICO case collapses. Willis faces grilling over hiring her lover, Nathan Wade, and approving hundreds of thousands in taxpayer-funded payments. The hosts highlight her evasive testimony and jaw-dropping claim that Wade billed 160 hours in a single week, calling it blatant fraud and emblematic of systemic corruption. They also connect this to broader Biden DOJ weaponization, revealing reports that FBI agents opposed the Mar-a-Lago raid for lack of probable cause—only to be overruled by political operatives.
The hour closes with Treasury Secretary Scott Besson’s remarks on immigration and housing costs, confirming that mass illegal immigration drove rents up nationwide. With Trump’s border enforcement removing over 2 million illegals, rents are finally dropping—a clear example of supply and demand at work. Clay and Buck underscore how immigration policy directly impacts affordability, especially in cities like New York.
Listeners also enjoy lighter moments, including Buck’s reflections on his first Christmas as a dad, Clay’s nostalgia for school holiday breaks, and humorous talkbacks debating pronunciation quirks and firearm preferences. The show wraps with heartfelt holiday wishes and gratitude for an incredible year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome it, everybody. Third hour of Play and Buck kicks
off right now. We are joined by our friend Katie Zachariah.
She is a legal and political strategist. She is based
in California. She's about poor kids. She's a great lady.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Katie. Thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you excited to be on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So tell me what the latest are.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
There's so many things to ask you about California here,
but one is I am seeing that the numbers. This
is a little troubling for me, Katie. I'm just going
to say this because I have been, unfortunately saying for
some time that Kamala is so terrible and was so
awful that she couldn't even run again, credibly, and now
the numbers are telling me that she's looking pretty solid
(00:47):
among the Democrats to run for president now talking about
and Gavin Newsom is having some trouble separating himself from
Kamala in this one. You have your ear to the
ground of California poly ticks. What is going on over there?
That was a heck of a question. Then up and
(01:09):
I thought there was such a pregnant pause there. I
was like, I can't wait to hear what I know
I threw a heater right down the center at one
hundred miles an hour there, or maybe one hundred and
three miles an hour for those who know what I'm
talking about. But she disappeared on us.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I do love Buck, the fact that you're slowly coming
around to the fact that you will buy me a steak.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean the way Kelly's.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Dad, if you're listening Kelly's dad, if you're listening to
CL's Claire's is right so much? Or whatever Clay thought
Michelle Obama was gonna run? What are you even talking about?
Kelly's dad? I love you, but Clay has had some
huge swing in amiss. He thought, who do you think
the VP was gonna be?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wasn't your pick like Corey Booker or something preposterous. I
don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
The the VP idea, but I will say that that's sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
On the Republican side, who was Oh no, you know, no, no, Well,
we knew it was gonna be Tim. But who do
you think the Republican VP was going to be? I
think you said some oh you thought it was going
to be Tim Scott.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I thought that there was a good chance it might
be Tim Scott, Yes, that was your best call of
the show so far. I think was jd Vance because
he was a huge underdog at the time that you
I could have probably got you the guy eight to
one odds or something on that line.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Maybe even maybe even better odds than that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And uh, but Kamala is gonna run and everybody is
now coming around to the fact that she's gonna run.
And the question that you were asking, Katie is I
think probably the most important question that's out there, which is,
how is this battle basically between Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris,
who I think it's fair to say are the top
two contenders right now gonna play out? And Buck I
(02:50):
think the most significant aspect of this that will be
decided in the near future because it's going to go
a long way towards letting you know, what the DNC
is doing in terms of, as we well know, putting
their finger on the scale here. It's gonna be what
is the first primary for Democrats? That will tell us
a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, by the way, to Katie, was there like a
power outage in California because it's run like a third
world country? Like do we know what happened there. Oh
we got on the phone. Okay, hey Katie, I don't
know what you heard about. Our Welcome back, Katie Zachariah.
Welcome to the Wonders of live radio where things just happen.
So we're gonna we're asking this question. National polling average
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Kamala Harris twenty three percent, Gavin Newsom twenty two percent.
How is it possible among Democrats. I know you're a Republican,
but you understand your home state. How is Kamala ahead
of Gavin after the showing that she had in this
last election?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's going on national polling?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think they're trying to get rid of Gavin Newsom's
track record because as it started coming up nationwide, though
he's pulled the wool over California's eyes, I do not
know how anyone can support him in the state after
everything he's done. However, with Kamala nationwide, what it shows
is that Barack Obama and the Democrat Party are trying
to see and try to get this temperature of what
(04:11):
the appetite is for the United States. So can they
run Gavin Newsom? Can they run Kamala Harris? We have
these two failed politicians out of California, failed vice president,
failed attorney general formerly out of California, and senator and
everything else. But Gavin Newsom has to eventually. What I
think is happening is he has been banking on running
(04:32):
on TDS Trump Arrangement syndrome, and that's how he's by
and large gotten so much momentum. But he's not going
to be running against President Trump in twenty eight and
then he's going to have to fall back on guess
what his track record, his policy and they're realizing that
he is likely not going to be able to win
Middle America, so they're going to throw back in Kamala
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Harris as a hail Mary. Perhaps I think they're just
gauging the appetite here because frankly, either of them are
good candidates.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think that that's one hundred percent true.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Unfortunately, Joe Biden was an awful candidate and he won.
So I was just asking Katie, first of all, Buck's
going to have to buy me a stake, and maybe
you can be invited. Maybe we'll have a big performance
surrounding this, since just a celebration of my brilliance when
it comes to making stake bets with Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
But in.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That battle in California, I think a huge part of
this is going to be what is the first Democrat
primary state? Because if they rig it like they did
for Biden in twenty twenty four, so that South Carolina
is first, trust me on this, Kamala Harris is going
to win that primary, and she's gonna win it going
away because James Cliburn is going to say vote for
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Kamala Harris. How much attention are you paying to what
the first primary is going to be and how much
of a battle do you think that will be to
give us an early indication of what the DNC's perspective is.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, well, to be quite frank, I am very focused
on twenty six midterms because that will be the biggest
indicator for what happens in twenty eight. So you look
at what's happening right now with the Republican Party, and
to be very honest, if we don't get serious, extremely
serious about winning and keeping keeping the House and keeping
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the Democrats out of the House, keeping ha King, Jeffries
out of speaker, if we don't win twenty six, whoever
the candidate is in twenty eight, whether it's Kamala, whether
it's Gavin or let's just say AOC and be really crazy,
we will lose. We will lose because we will then
be under impeachment inquiries with President Trump and whatever the
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Democrat primary is, frankly doesn't matter if we don't have
if we don't pass the Save Act and we don't
have voter ID and proof of citizenship, and we don't
keep the House, because President Trump will be a lame
duck president. It will be impeachments at King Jeffries and
so whoever the candidate is, the Democrats kind of know
that they have the system riggs, and if we don't
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keep the House, they will win twenty eight. That is
my assessment.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think that's absolutely the way this is going to go.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I want to ask you something that's also a little
specific to California here for a second, Corey DeAngelis, who
is a school choice evangelist, as it says in his
Twitter bio, put out this statistic which is just pretty
staggering going back the last decade of California obviously largest
population of any state in America.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And also.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I think is the LA Public school the second biggest
I think after New York City. The LA public school
system is the second biggest one of any any county
in the country. LA public schools have lost about a
third of their students twenty six percent twenty six percent
of their students in the last decade, and they've increased
staffing by just shy of twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How is that happening?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, the answer is simple, with the teachers' unions that
they are not here to educate our children. Okay, California
on a whole, we have the lowest literacy rate in
the nation. We are at fifty of fifty. Our public
school system is failing to deliver even basic basic education
(08:16):
for the California students that go into the university system.
Draf of them don't even meet the state's own standards
in English language arts okay, thirty seven point three meet
the standards in mathematics. This these numbers are an indictment
on the California education system. And yet what is continuing
(08:37):
to happen. There are fundly money into these school districts
that are losing students because of the teachers' unions and
because of the failed Democrat state that we live in,
that there's not a referendum on our school system, and
there are you know, sixty I think it's sixty three
to sixty five percent would favor school vouchers. Yet we
(08:57):
can't even get this through because we have such a
monop a Democrat supermajority that they're never going to entertain this.
So we California is a broken state, but our education
system highlights just how failed we are. I would never
send my kids never to a public school in California.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We're coming up on a year since the Palisades fire,
since so many people in the LA area lost their homes.
I met a woman at the World Cup reveal, and
she said, please talk about the fact that nothing is
being rebuilt, that California is a complete mess when it
comes to allowing so many people to be able to
(09:38):
return to where they used to live and just get
started on what is a long process of rebuilding. How
much frustration is there out there over what's going on
with the LA fires, And does it cross party lines
in a significant enough way that twenty twenty six with
Steve Hilton, for instance, could in any way be competitive,
which would obviously mean a lot were the house even
(10:01):
with the redrawn map.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What should we know about.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That well, the driving down Pacific Coast Highway and looking
at Malibu. I do this whenever I have to drive
down to La because it avoids massive traffic. I will
tell you every single lot still burned down. There are
four sale signs on almost every lot on that coastal
(10:25):
property in Malibu. And I'm not exaggerating my indication. It
is almost every lot there is a four sale sign.
Why is that because these people cannot get approval, they
cannot get building permits to rebuild their homes, and a
lot of them lost fire. They didn't have fire insurance,
and the fire insurance that they did have will not
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cover the rebuild of the existing home. And as Karen
Bath has said, we are going to cut all the
red tape, they cut zero red tape. There has been
not even one real home rebuilt. And since what we're
at almost twelve months, eleven and half months, nothing has
been done. And I think this is on purpose. Gavin
Newsom showed his hand when they were trying to take
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a large portion of that land and rezone it for
low income housing, and they are now trying to bleed
out all of the people that are sitting on their
lots waiting for these building permits, and they just want
those for sale signs to go up, have big developers
come in or governments to come in and take over
the land. So this is very difficult to translate to
(11:29):
the entire California. However, you see, yes, they failed, but
if you're not driving by and you're not seeing day
to day how little progress has actually been made, it's
kind of old news to people in California, except if
you live in the Palisades area or you've had to relocate.
So what does this mean for Steve Hilton? To your point,
Steve Hilton has amazing chance of winning if we had
(11:53):
a fair state. But we don't have voter ID. We
actually have a Senate. We we have it enshrined in
the Senate that you cannot ask you cannot ask for
an identification when you go to the polls. It's actually illegal.
So if we don't get a hold of our voter roles,
if we don't have more registered Conservatives, and if we
allow illegals to continue voting, no Republican, no Republican can
(12:17):
win this state. That's just the plain and simple facts
for California.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Kitty Zachariah great to have you on. Come back and
talk to us against soon. Merry Christmas and we'll speak
to you in the new year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right. Thanks.
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
You are about to be on Christmas vacation. What is
the thing that you are most excited for? This is
gonna be your first Christmas as a dad. Now, next Christmas,
your son will start to get old enough where he
can kind of know that there's festivities going on. And
(14:06):
I think the best thing about Christmas by far is
kids once they get to be about two to about
nine or so and they are just super excited about
Santa Claus coming. It does not get much better than that.
So you're still in the pre pre Christmas frenzy for
(14:26):
a little kid. But what are you most excited about?
On the Christmas holiday break?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Here?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
By the way, we will have a lot of great
guest hosts. I'll be with you Thursday Friday, and then
we will be back with you after the first of
the year. There's a lot of specials that'll be up.
We'll have good hosts. We've named a lot of them
for you, so you'll still be able to hang out
and have a great time. But what are you most
excited for?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well, my wife and my baby boy are with our
in laws for the next few days. I'll be joining them,
so so the next few days I'm excited to try
to sleep a lot. I took a nap in the
middle of the day after radio yesterday. I am sick,
so to be fair, but I had a nap and
I didn't have to wake up and change a diaper
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or do anything. I just was able to take a nap.
So that's the stage of life I'm in. The fact
that I can get some extra sleep is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I said this before.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I used to travel cross country when the kids were little,
and I would work a lot at Fox Sports, and
my wife did an amazing job as the mom who
was in charge of them, but I would work a
lot in La on the Fox Sports a lot. The
thing that I was most excited for at the end
of work was to come back to the hotel room
(15:45):
and have blackout curtains and just be able to get
in bed and not have to get.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Up super early in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Now that was before I was doing my crazy early
sports talk radio show, which meant that I never got
any sleep for about five years, But that was to
me the best part. My kids are finishing their exams,
So it is it's awesome to have kids because it
takes you back to that world. Remember how great it felt.
I don't know that there's any equivalent feeling to finishing
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that last exam or finishing that last class and getting
out of school for Christmas break. That is one of
the best feelings. I don't know that there's an adult
equivalent to it. Some of you may say, oh, it's
when you actually retire, you know, you don't have to
go into the office anymore. Maybe that's kind of the
ultimate Christmas vacation. But my kids are coming back home.
(16:39):
Yesterday my middle son finished his last exam. You know
what he did, buck, He climbed into bed, took a
three hour nap, got out of bed after all the exams,
and just said, I'm so excited that I don't have
to do anything significant at school for the next couple
of weeks. So that feeling is very tough to replace
or replicate. I think for adult. How's the voice going
(17:02):
to be for reading the book. I'm hoping it will
be fine. It sounds pretty good today. So this was
a pretty mild cold as these things go. But yeah,
I'm gonna be reading the book. So you know you've
prepared me for this to be really, really tough. But
if I can go at a reasonable pace, I feel
like it can't be that bad. How many days did
it take you to do your book?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I did it all of them in two days because
I didn't want to go back in for a third day,
so I did. I don't remember four or five hours
in a row each day of just sitting. And yes,
my audiobook is me reading. Buck's book will be audio
of him reading, but it is a it's just a
it's a lot. You're just sitting there. We talk for
(17:45):
a living, which is a weird thing to have as
a job. But when you sit in an empty room
and just read your own words, the toughest thing is
you're going to find things that you wish you'd written different,
written a little bit better. So good luck with that.
We'll take some of your calls to close up the show.
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Pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck. That's pound
two five zero, say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in Clay, Travis,
Buck Sexton show. Our good friend Fanny Willis basically has
had her entire trump CA tossed out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Do you think she knows that we're big fans? I wonder.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I would love to have her on. I hope she
will be in twenty twenty six. I hope she will
accept the hand of fellowship from us. Not the same
kind of hand of fellowship that she extended to Nathan Wade,
her lover, who she paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to,
but that entire case has now been tossed, and she
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is being grilled on why the people of Georgia paid
hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation for her boy toy.
And this happened a little bit earlier in Georgia. She
was not happy about the questions.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Listen, we'll review those documents. So you're asking me to
look at documents that I haven't for the first time.
What I can tell you is that I will give
you child, mister Wade to one hundred and sixty hours
a week, and then mister Wade would be the first
one in the office making sure that my staff arrived.
He corrected their behavior. They thought that eight thirty eight thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He told them that eight.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Thirty he means seven forty five. He got there before them,
he left after him. He taught them how to do
this case. And he was a leader to that team
and a public servant. And for that, him, like me,
has been threatened thousands of times. You want something to
investigate as a legislature, Investigate how many times they've called
me the N word? Why don't you investigate that? Why
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don't you investigate them writing on my house? Why don't
you investigate the fact that my house has been swatted.
If you want something to do with your time, that
makes sense, and you can use all this in your campaign.
At you attacked Fannie Willis what have you done, sir?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Nothing to refer you to the screen. I know you
said you don't approve.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
I don't, so I can't talk to you about documents
I don't approve and don't review. Can't talk to you
about it.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Who does approve the documents in your office? When the
voice is coming?
Speaker 7 (20:48):
I thought we'd been through this.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
I don't believe you said who reviews the invoices and
approves the invoices in here?
Speaker 7 (20:53):
First of all, I have no first hand knowledge of it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You have no first time I want me to testify by.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Something I don't have any first hand knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, wait, hold on, this is really this is really
the thing that stuck out to me here, Clay.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
And there's a lot. There's a lot we could we
could discuss.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Did she say that her paramore build one hundred and
sixty hours in a week?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I believe she did in a week.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Let me tell you something that is time and attendance fraud.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, there is absolutely one hundred hours a week. Do
the math on that one.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Everybody a lot of investment banker types to work at
you know, Morgan, Stanley and Goldman. When they're analysts, they'll
say they work I know, eighty hours a week, and
that is brutal. One hundred hours a week is insane.
One hundred and sixty hours a week is not possible. Yeah,
it's twenty two point eight hours a day. I believe,
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no way, Zeros. It's not that I think he probably
didn't hit that number. There's a zero percent chance that
he hit that number. And I would argue he probably
did less than half that number of actual time in
any office.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is totally inflated.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I did.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
When I watched that clip this morning, what stood out
to me was how quickly and this is like, this
is the number one playbook of people like Fanny Willis,
like she think about what we know, one hundred percent happened.
She hired her lover and she got him paid hundreds
of thousands of dollars by Georgia taxpayers. That is, as
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I said, a flagrant conflict of interest. It's completely unacceptable. Frankly,
the fact that she is still a public steward in
any way being paid by any taxpayers is an indictment
of our entire system. Okay, the fact that she turned
a question which is a very basic question about who
approves basically these billable hours that are turned over that
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the state taxpayer has to fund into you need to
investigate people saying mean thing about me is perfect and
also illustrative of the victimization culture that has been allowed
to flourish. I mean, people said mean things about you
because you hired your lover and then he was paid
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hundreds of thousands of dollars by Georgia taxpayers. I mean,
I don't condone racial slurs, but you should be angry,
very angry if you're a Georgia taxpayer. If your taxpayer
dollars went to subsidizing her lover, and if he was
as appears to be quite possible, likely even gouging all
(23:38):
of the Georgia taxpayers with the amount of hours that
he actually worked.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, well, it could be fraud what I'm saying, It
could be billing fraud. It's not just like he was expensive.
It's and by the way, if he built, if he
charged anyone anyone the State of Georgia a private client
for one hundred and sixty hours of work in a week.
He is lying, that is fraud. Now, you would never
try ar to private client that because they would notice,
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because they could do the simple math. But the whole
point here and why she was being asked about who
approved that TNA time and attendance for this kind of thing?
That that's why I spelled out time and attendance. Clay there, Yeah, Clay,
Travis good heavens, good, heavens, mister Clay, where was I Yes,
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it's because the state doesn't pay attention to these.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Things, and so he knew he would get away with it.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, And I mean he would probably argue, I'm sure
if he were quizzed on this, well, I was back
billing that was multiple weeks of work. I mean, he
would try to make an excuse about how the one
hundred and sixty hour bill came to be. But again
it would be utterly absurd for their not too, for
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the fact that she still has a job and is
being paid by taxpayers is an utter indictment of the syste.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Can we also, though, take a moment to think about Clay.
She brings among the most high profile criminal cases of
any person in American history in the sense that it
is a reco case against a former president and future president.
A former and future president. She didn't know the future
part necessarily at the time, but and with that going on,
(25:22):
she's going to have flagrant ethical issues, like think, think
about this, don't you think that you might wanna, you.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Know, make sure that you're crystal clear that you are
as clean as clean as clean can be if you're
going to bring the biggest criminal charge in the history
of the state of Georgia. Yeah, I'd want to make
sure that everything that I was doing personally was as
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clear and uh and protected as possible. There was also,
by the way, a big story. I don't know if
you talked about this yesterday. I'll mention it now as
we get ready to go to break, but I may
talk about it a little bit tomorrow. Do you see
the big Fox News story saying that tons of FBI
agents told the Department of Justice there was not probable
cause to conduct the raid at mar Lago and the
(26:15):
Biden Department of Justice, which I believe worked in concert
here with Fanny Willis, Nathan Wade, and all of them
just said, we don't care, we're doing this. So the
Biden Department of Justice overruled the FBI, which is supposed
to be an independent arbiter of fact finding, and said,
even though you have qualms issues with whether this probable
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cause warrant is being issued correctly, go do it. We're
basically ordering you to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, of course, I mean not suprising at all.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Right, But the fact that some of these FBI agents
are now coming out and saying, hey, just so you know,
we push back internally and said this probable cause is
not sufficient to justify rating the home of a former president.
The fact that all of this Biden weaponization of lawfair
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not one person is going to be held accountable for it.
I mean, if you're out there and you're saying, okay,
what were the consequences of all of this illegal targeting
of President Trump? Unless there's some major indictment that's coming
that I'm not privy to, and I think by the
way it should be, it seems quite clear to me
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that the Biden team is just going to say, yeah,
we got away with it. I know they're quizzing Jack
Smith today, but I'm sure that he will say under oath,
he'll just lie and say there was never any political
consideration at all associated with the charges that the federal
government brought. All I do is look at the facts.
I don't care whether you're a Democrat or Republican. I mean,
I can tell you exactly what his testimony is going
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to be, and it's all going to be a lie.
But it looks like they're going to get away with it.
So Trump won, yes, but the lawfair that was used
against him is not going to end with Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Can I do a hard turn just to get into
Scott Bessen thing before I get ready to sign off
for the end of the year. Scott Bess in, Treasury Secretary.
I know we're going in a totally different direction now,
but we covered the Fanny Willis thing. We really just
wanted to let you hear her freak out.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That was.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
That was quite a quite a moment, Scott Bess And
you're talking about supply and demand. Turns out it it
does actually apply to the housing market, and illegal immigration
does affect the housing market.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Play cutting the story that the Biden administration doesn't want
to talk about the mass unfettered immigration they have pushed
up rents, especially for working Americans. There's a recent study
out from Wharton School that shows every one percent increase
in population, rents won up one percent.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
So President Trump, by the enforcing the border sending home
more than two million illegals rents, we're now seeing D
and C rent coming down ebstantially. I think that that
will continue this for the rest of the year. We
brought interest rates down, so we've seen more mortgage rates down,
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and I think everything else will follow.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That turns out the basic laws of economics play still apply.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yes, And this is I think one of the most
important things about how you can say, Okay, what does
immigration do to cost of living in many different cities.
You know, everybody elected Mom Donni because they're upset about
what the overall cost of.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Living is in New York City. How much cheaper do
you think New York.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
City cost of living would be if there were zero
illegal immigrants in New York City. I think there'd be
a lot more people able to live a lot more affordably.
So when you pull illegal immigrants out of the population,
there's fewer people here, which means rents come down. This
is basic economics, but it's good to see that basic
economic laws still apply.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
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Welcome back into Clay and bug ahead. I'm gonna you
know what, Clay, I'm gonna take this one, even though
I think you were supposed to, because it's my last
one of the year, and you're gonna be able to
hang out with everybody for six hours the next couple
of days, and I'm gonna be sad. I'm gonna miss
all of you until the new year, and then we're
gonna be back rocking and rolling and uh, let's let's
get into some of this year. Clay, apparently not willing
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to let byguns be byguns on this one. Terry from
Minnesota left us a talkback BB who wants to weigh in.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Bucking Clay. It's your boy, Terry here from the Crescent, Minesota. Again,
I'm at lunch walk. Yeah, it's not Paton. Uh, Okay,
it's Patina. Okay, you're putting the m fastest on the
wrong syllable. Okay, let's get this right. Your boy here
is an English major. Okay, think about it, guys, it's Patina. Okay.
If you collect coins, if you collect cars, you know
(32:18):
of this. It's not Paton. All right.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I'm just gonna say that a little something called Merriam
Webster's Dictionary disagrees with both you and Buck. I flagged this,
by the way, Buck parcel fun talkback. I'm getting hate
mail for you over your gun choices. I don't even
this came back.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh nice, nice, we have we have the senior citizens
with their nineteen elevens getting angry again.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Nice, get ready, Buck. The subject matter was poor choice
of words, and then the first sentence was poor choice
of words. I would have responded sooner, but power has
only recently been restored. If you own a nineteen eleven,
you need a sippy up. This is what he's quoting
you as saying. I suppose I live in the mountains
(33:04):
of north central Washington. I listen to those insulting words
on a hand cranked AM radio. I personally do not
own a nineteen eleven. I have a SIG two twenty.
It's a high quality tool. I have a friend from
the army, and she can bust more clays in the
air with her nineteen eleven than most men can hit
(33:27):
with an expensive Bonelli twelve gage shotgun. You have insulted
many brother and sister veterans. I taught and trained the
instructors for the ten Mountain division, and then enjoy your
rose wine at your naked next Peak Pistols meeting. Look
forward to hearing you bragging on winning the women's division
(33:48):
at Camp Perry. Steve b Uh, that's an email I
legitimately got from somebody named Steve b today.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
So if he's listening on his hand cranked radio.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
That you're angry at Buck, I don't know what do
you think about guns?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That we're not the same person like you're It's not
like you're doing two voices here.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Why is he writing this to you?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Don't I think he thought that it was me. I
then I was going after the guns. Oh, Ricky, Ricky
and Houston K t R. H.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Great station down in Houston. F. F.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Gift admire Clay's unwavering confidence and Buck's humility.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Any real listener knows.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That Buck's argument was Biden would be running and the
only way he wouldn't was if Kamala replaced him. But
Buck fell on the sword that is Buck Island, so
Clay could feel good about himself married Christmas guys.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I mean that there's some truth into that. I don't
want to relitigate this. I don't want to re litigate this.
But my thing all along is that it has to
be bid. If it's not Biden, it's Kamala. But then
there was one point where I said, Biden's gonna run.
Biden did technically run, but he bailed on his run,
so you know we're gonna you know, we got we
gotta just sort of. I took the l on it, though,
and I bought played the most expensive steak I've ever
(35:08):
bought anyone in my entire life, and we got a
whole magic show out of it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So that was fine. It was great. That was a
really fun stake.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And by the way, hopefully you had a great Christmas party, Carrie,
I imagine was improved in the vast majority of planning
that so Carrie put on a great Christmas party. Hopefully
we're gonna be able to do some more of those
in South Florida in the years ahead, and that will
be a good opportunity to also go sample some more
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steaks starting very soon when Kamala announces her So I
don't think we will get it in twenty six though,
because I think we're gonna have to run. I don't
think she'll officially announce until like February or something of
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I think what you're saying is there's a lot of
time that can pass, and that the polls can change,
and that as Democrats pay closer attention, they may realize
what a disaster she would be even to be in
the race. She will box out Gavin Newsom, and perhaps
it is you who shall be buying mistakes. But either way,
sneak or no steak, it has been a fantastic twenty
twenty five, so might even say fabulous. And I just
(36:12):
want to say I love all of you very much.
Thank you, so much for listening. My birthday is December
twenty eighth, I will be forty four years old, and
this has been truly one of the best years.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I can remember. It has been great here on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I became a dad, my wife who's incredible, even plays
a lot of fun day to day, so it's been wonderful.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So thank you all so much. Have a very very
merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And whether you're a flute player or a nineteen eleven owner,
or who else have we upset recently, just Mary Rose Drinkers,
you're great too.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We love all of you.
Welcome it, everybody. Third hour of Play and Buck kicks
off right now. We are joined by our friend Katie Zachariah.
She is a legal and political strategist. She is based
in California. She's about poor kids. She's a great lady.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Katie. Thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you excited to be on.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So tell me what the latest are.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
There's so many things to ask you about California here,
but one is I am seeing that the numbers. This
is a little troubling for me, Katie. I'm just going
to say this because I have been, unfortunately saying for
some time that Kamala is so terrible and was so
awful that she couldn't even run again, credibly, and now
the numbers are telling me that she's looking pretty solid
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among the Democrats to run for president now talking about
and Gavin Newsom is having some trouble separating himself from
Kamala in this one. You have your ear to the
ground of California poly ticks. What is going on over there?
That was a heck of a question. Then up and
(01:09):
I thought there was such a pregnant pause there. I
was like, I can't wait to hear what I know
I threw a heater right down the center at one
hundred miles an hour there, or maybe one hundred and
three miles an hour for those who know what I'm
talking about. But she disappeared on us.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I do love Buck, the fact that you're slowly coming
around to the fact that you will buy me a steak.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean the way Kelly's.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Dad, if you're listening Kelly's dad, if you're listening to
CL's Claire's is right so much? Or whatever Clay thought
Michelle Obama was gonna run? What are you even talking about?
Kelly's dad? I love you, but Clay has had some
huge swing in amiss. He thought, who do you think
the VP was gonna be?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wasn't your pick like Corey Booker or something preposterous. I
don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
The the VP idea, but I will say that that's sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
On the Republican side, who was Oh no, you know, no, no, Well,
we knew it was gonna be Tim. But who do
you think the Republican VP was going to be? I
think you said some oh you thought it was going
to be Tim Scott.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I thought that there was a good chance it might
be Tim Scott, Yes, that was your best call of
the show so far. I think was jd Vance because
he was a huge underdog at the time that you
I could have probably got you the guy eight to
one odds or something on that line.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Maybe even maybe even better odds than that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And uh, but Kamala is gonna run and everybody is
now coming around to the fact that she's gonna run.
And the question that you were asking, Katie is I
think probably the most important question that's out there, which is,
how is this battle basically between Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris,
who I think it's fair to say are the top
two contenders right now gonna play out? And Buck I
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think the most significant aspect of this that will be
decided in the near future because it's going to go
a long way towards letting you know, what the DNC
is doing in terms of, as we well know, putting
their finger on the scale here. It's gonna be what
is the first primary for Democrats? That will tell us
a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, by the way, to Katie, was there like a
power outage in California because it's run like a third
world country? Like do we know what happened there. Oh
we got on the phone. Okay, hey Katie, I don't
know what you heard about. Our Welcome back, Katie Zachariah.
Welcome to the Wonders of live radio where things just happen.
So we're gonna we're asking this question. National polling average
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Kamala Harris twenty three percent, Gavin Newsom twenty two percent.
How is it possible among Democrats. I know you're a Republican,
but you understand your home state. How is Kamala ahead
of Gavin after the showing that she had in this
last election?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's going on national polling?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think they're trying to get rid of Gavin Newsom's
track record because as it started coming up nationwide, though
he's pulled the wool over California's eyes, I do not
know how anyone can support him in the state after
everything he's done. However, with Kamala nationwide, what it shows
is that Barack Obama and the Democrat Party are trying
to see and try to get this temperature of what
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the appetite is for the United States. So can they
run Gavin Newsom? Can they run Kamala Harris? We have
these two failed politicians out of California, failed vice president,
failed attorney general formerly out of California, and senator and
everything else. But Gavin Newsom has to eventually. What I
think is happening is he has been banking on running
(04:32):
on TDS Trump Arrangement syndrome, and that's how he's by
and large gotten so much momentum. But he's not going
to be running against President Trump in twenty eight and
then he's going to have to fall back on guess
what his track record, his policy and they're realizing that
he is likely not going to be able to win
Middle America, so they're going to throw back in Kamala
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Harris as a hail Mary. Perhaps I think they're just
gauging the appetite here because frankly, either of them are
good candidates.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think that that's one hundred percent true.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Unfortunately, Joe Biden was an awful candidate and he won.
So I was just asking Katie, first of all, Buck's
going to have to buy me a stake, and maybe
you can be invited. Maybe we'll have a big performance
surrounding this, since just a celebration of my brilliance when
it comes to making stake bets with Buck.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
But in.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That battle in California, I think a huge part of
this is going to be what is the first Democrat
primary state? Because if they rig it like they did
for Biden in twenty twenty four, so that South Carolina
is first, trust me on this, Kamala Harris is going
to win that primary, and she's gonna win it going
away because James Cliburn is going to say vote for
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Kamala Harris. How much attention are you paying to what
the first primary is going to be and how much
of a battle do you think that will be to
give us an early indication of what the DNC's perspective is.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well, well, to be quite frank, I am very focused
on twenty six midterms because that will be the biggest
indicator for what happens in twenty eight. So you look
at what's happening right now with the Republican Party, and
to be very honest, if we don't get serious, extremely
serious about winning and keeping keeping the House and keeping
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the Democrats out of the House, keeping ha King, Jeffries
out of speaker, if we don't win twenty six, whoever
the candidate is in twenty eight, whether it's Kamala, whether
it's Gavin or let's just say AOC and be really crazy,
we will lose. We will lose because we will then
be under impeachment inquiries with President Trump and whatever the
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Democrat primary is, frankly doesn't matter if we don't have
if we don't pass the Save Act and we don't
have voter ID and proof of citizenship, and we don't
keep the House, because President Trump will be a lame
duck president. It will be impeachments at King Jeffries and
so whoever the candidate is, the Democrats kind of know
that they have the system riggs, and if we don't
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keep the House, they will win twenty eight. That is
my assessment.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think that's absolutely the way this is going to go.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I want to ask you something that's also a little
specific to California here for a second, Corey DeAngelis, who
is a school choice evangelist, as it says in his
Twitter bio, put out this statistic which is just pretty
staggering going back the last decade of California obviously largest
population of any state in America.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And also.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I think is the LA Public school the second biggest
I think after New York City. The LA public school
system is the second biggest one of any any county
in the country. LA public schools have lost about a
third of their students twenty six percent twenty six percent
of their students in the last decade, and they've increased
staffing by just shy of twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
How is that happening?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, the answer is simple, with the teachers' unions that
they are not here to educate our children. Okay, California
on a whole, we have the lowest literacy rate in
the nation. We are at fifty of fifty. Our public
school system is failing to deliver even basic basic education
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for the California students that go into the university system.
Draf of them don't even meet the state's own standards
in English language arts okay, thirty seven point three meet
the standards in mathematics. This these numbers are an indictment
on the California education system. And yet what is continuing
(08:37):
to happen. There are fundly money into these school districts
that are losing students because of the teachers' unions and
because of the failed Democrat state that we live in,
that there's not a referendum on our school system, and
there are you know, sixty I think it's sixty three
to sixty five percent would favor school vouchers. Yet we
(08:57):
can't even get this through because we have such a
monop a Democrat supermajority that they're never going to entertain this.
So we California is a broken state, but our education
system highlights just how failed we are. I would never
send my kids never to a public school in California.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
We're coming up on a year since the Palisades fire,
since so many people in the LA area lost their homes.
I met a woman at the World Cup reveal, and
she said, please talk about the fact that nothing is
being rebuilt, that California is a complete mess when it
comes to allowing so many people to be able to
(09:38):
return to where they used to live and just get
started on what is a long process of rebuilding. How
much frustration is there out there over what's going on
with the LA fires, And does it cross party lines
in a significant enough way that twenty twenty six with
Steve Hilton, for instance, could in any way be competitive,
which would obviously mean a lot were the house even
(10:01):
with the redrawn map.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What should we know about.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That well, the driving down Pacific Coast Highway and looking
at Malibu. I do this whenever I have to drive
down to La because it avoids massive traffic. I will
tell you every single lot still burned down. There are
four sale signs on almost every lot on that coastal
(10:25):
property in Malibu. And I'm not exaggerating my indication. It
is almost every lot there is a four sale sign.
Why is that because these people cannot get approval, they
cannot get building permits to rebuild their homes, and a
lot of them lost fire. They didn't have fire insurance,
and the fire insurance that they did have will not
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cover the rebuild of the existing home. And as Karen
Bath has said, we are going to cut all the
red tape, they cut zero red tape. There has been
not even one real home rebuilt. And since what we're
at almost twelve months, eleven and half months, nothing has
been done. And I think this is on purpose. Gavin
Newsom showed his hand when they were trying to take
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a large portion of that land and rezone it for
low income housing, and they are now trying to bleed
out all of the people that are sitting on their
lots waiting for these building permits, and they just want
those for sale signs to go up, have big developers
come in or governments to come in and take over
the land. So this is very difficult to translate to
(11:29):
the entire California. However, you see, yes, they failed, but
if you're not driving by and you're not seeing day
to day how little progress has actually been made, it's
kind of old news to people in California, except if
you live in the Palisades area or you've had to relocate.
So what does this mean for Steve Hilton? To your point,
Steve Hilton has amazing chance of winning if we had
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a fair state. But we don't have voter ID. We
actually have a Senate. We we have it enshrined in
the Senate that you cannot ask you cannot ask for
an identification when you go to the polls. It's actually illegal.
So if we don't get a hold of our voter roles,
if we don't have more registered Conservatives, and if we
allow illegals to continue voting, no Republican, no Republican can
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win this state. That's just the plain and simple facts
for California.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Kitty Zachariah great to have you on. Come back and
talk to us against soon. Merry Christmas and we'll speak
to you in the new year.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right. Thanks.
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Speaker 4 (13:45):
You are about to be on Christmas vacation. What is
the thing that you are most excited for? This is
gonna be your first Christmas as a dad. Now, next Christmas,
your son will start to get old enough where he
can kind of know that there's festivities going on. And
(14:06):
I think the best thing about Christmas by far is
kids once they get to be about two to about
nine or so and they are just super excited about
Santa Claus coming. It does not get much better than that.
So you're still in the pre pre Christmas frenzy for
(14:26):
a little kid. But what are you most excited about?
On the Christmas holiday break?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Here?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
By the way, we will have a lot of great
guest hosts. I'll be with you Thursday Friday, and then
we will be back with you after the first of
the year. There's a lot of specials that'll be up.
We'll have good hosts. We've named a lot of them
for you, so you'll still be able to hang out
and have a great time. But what are you most
excited for?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Well, my wife and my baby boy are with our
in laws for the next few days. I'll be joining them,
so so the next few days I'm excited to try
to sleep a lot. I took a nap in the
middle of the day after radio yesterday. I am sick,
so to be fair, but I had a nap and
I didn't have to wake up and change a diaper
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or do anything. I just was able to take a nap.
So that's the stage of life I'm in. The fact
that I can get some extra sleep is really exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I said this before.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I used to travel cross country when the kids were little,
and I would work a lot at Fox Sports, and
my wife did an amazing job as the mom who
was in charge of them, but I would work a
lot in La on the Fox Sports a lot. The
thing that I was most excited for at the end
of work was to come back to the hotel room
(15:45):
and have blackout curtains and just be able to get
in bed and not have to get.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Up super early in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Now that was before I was doing my crazy early
sports talk radio show, which meant that I never got
any sleep for about five years, But that was to
me the best part. My kids are finishing their exams,
So it is it's awesome to have kids because it
takes you back to that world. Remember how great it felt.
I don't know that there's any equivalent feeling to finishing
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that last exam or finishing that last class and getting
out of school for Christmas break. That is one of
the best feelings. I don't know that there's an adult
equivalent to it. Some of you may say, oh, it's
when you actually retire, you know, you don't have to
go into the office anymore. Maybe that's kind of the
ultimate Christmas vacation. But my kids are coming back home.
(16:39):
Yesterday my middle son finished his last exam. You know
what he did, buck, He climbed into bed, took a
three hour nap, got out of bed after all the exams,
and just said, I'm so excited that I don't have
to do anything significant at school for the next couple
of weeks. So that feeling is very tough to replace
or replicate. I think for adult. How's the voice going
(17:02):
to be for reading the book. I'm hoping it will
be fine. It sounds pretty good today. So this was
a pretty mild cold as these things go. But yeah,
I'm gonna be reading the book. So you know you've
prepared me for this to be really, really tough. But
if I can go at a reasonable pace, I feel
like it can't be that bad. How many days did
it take you to do your book?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I did it all of them in two days because
I didn't want to go back in for a third day,
so I did. I don't remember four or five hours
in a row each day of just sitting. And yes,
my audiobook is me reading. Buck's book will be audio
of him reading, but it is a it's just a
it's a lot. You're just sitting there. We talk for
(17:45):
a living, which is a weird thing to have as
a job. But when you sit in an empty room
and just read your own words, the toughest thing is
you're going to find things that you wish you'd written different,
written a little bit better. So good luck with that.
We'll take some of your calls to close up the show.
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Pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck. That's pound
two five zero, say Clay and Buck. Welcome back in Clay, Travis,
Buck Sexton show. Our good friend Fanny Willis basically has
had her entire trump CA tossed out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Do you think she knows that we're big fans? I wonder.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I would love to have her on. I hope she
will be in twenty twenty six. I hope she will
accept the hand of fellowship from us. Not the same
kind of hand of fellowship that she extended to Nathan Wade,
her lover, who she paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to,
but that entire case has now been tossed, and she
(19:24):
is being grilled on why the people of Georgia paid
hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation for her boy toy.
And this happened a little bit earlier in Georgia. She
was not happy about the questions.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Listen, we'll review those documents. So you're asking me to
look at documents that I haven't for the first time.
What I can tell you is that I will give
you child, mister Wade to one hundred and sixty hours
a week, and then mister Wade would be the first
one in the office making sure that my staff arrived.
He corrected their behavior. They thought that eight thirty eight thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He told them that eight.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
Thirty he means seven forty five. He got there before them,
he left after him. He taught them how to do
this case. And he was a leader to that team
and a public servant. And for that, him, like me,
has been threatened thousands of times. You want something to
investigate as a legislature, Investigate how many times they've called
me the N word? Why don't you investigate that? Why
(20:21):
don't you investigate them writing on my house? Why don't
you investigate the fact that my house has been swatted.
If you want something to do with your time, that
makes sense, and you can use all this in your campaign.
At you attacked Fannie Willis what have you done, sir?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Nothing to refer you to the screen. I know you
said you don't approve.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
I don't, so I can't talk to you about documents
I don't approve and don't review. Can't talk to you
about it.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
Who does approve the documents in your office? When the
voice is coming?
Speaker 7 (20:48):
I thought we'd been through this.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
I don't believe you said who reviews the invoices and
approves the invoices in here?
Speaker 7 (20:53):
First of all, I have no first hand knowledge of it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You have no first time I want me to testify by.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Something I don't have any first hand knowledge of it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, wait, hold on, this is really this is really
the thing that stuck out to me here, Clay.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
And there's a lot. There's a lot we could we
could discuss.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Did she say that her paramore build one hundred and
sixty hours in a week?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I believe she did in a week.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Let me tell you something that is time and attendance fraud.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, there is absolutely one hundred hours a week. Do
the math on that one.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Everybody a lot of investment banker types to work at
you know, Morgan, Stanley and Goldman. When they're analysts, they'll
say they work I know, eighty hours a week, and
that is brutal. One hundred hours a week is insane.
One hundred and sixty hours a week is not possible. Yeah,
it's twenty two point eight hours a day. I believe,
(21:47):
no way, Zeros. It's not that I think he probably
didn't hit that number. There's a zero percent chance that
he hit that number. And I would argue he probably
did less than half that number of actual time in
any office.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is totally inflated.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But I did.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
When I watched that clip this morning, what stood out
to me was how quickly and this is like, this
is the number one playbook of people like Fanny Willis,
like she think about what we know, one hundred percent happened.
She hired her lover and she got him paid hundreds
of thousands of dollars by Georgia taxpayers. That is, as
(22:29):
I said, a flagrant conflict of interest. It's completely unacceptable. Frankly,
the fact that she is still a public steward in
any way being paid by any taxpayers is an indictment
of our entire system. Okay, the fact that she turned
a question which is a very basic question about who
approves basically these billable hours that are turned over that
(22:54):
the state taxpayer has to fund into you need to
investigate people saying mean thing about me is perfect and
also illustrative of the victimization culture that has been allowed
to flourish. I mean, people said mean things about you
because you hired your lover and then he was paid
(23:16):
hundreds of thousands of dollars by Georgia taxpayers. I mean,
I don't condone racial slurs, but you should be angry,
very angry if you're a Georgia taxpayer. If your taxpayer
dollars went to subsidizing her lover, and if he was
as appears to be quite possible, likely even gouging all
(23:38):
of the Georgia taxpayers with the amount of hours that
he actually worked.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Well, well, it could be fraud what I'm saying, It
could be billing fraud. It's not just like he was expensive.
It's and by the way, if he built, if he
charged anyone anyone the State of Georgia a private client
for one hundred and sixty hours of work in a week.
He is lying, that is fraud. Now, you would never
try ar to private client that because they would notice,
(24:03):
because they could do the simple math. But the whole
point here and why she was being asked about who
approved that TNA time and attendance for this kind of thing?
That that's why I spelled out time and attendance. Clay there, Yeah, Clay,
Travis good heavens, good, heavens, mister Clay, where was I Yes,
(24:24):
it's because the state doesn't pay attention to these.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Things, and so he knew he would get away with it.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, And I mean he would probably argue, I'm sure
if he were quizzed on this, well, I was back
billing that was multiple weeks of work. I mean, he
would try to make an excuse about how the one
hundred and sixty hour bill came to be. But again
it would be utterly absurd for their not too, for
(24:52):
the fact that she still has a job and is
being paid by taxpayers is an utter indictment of the syste.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Can we also, though, take a moment to think about Clay.
She brings among the most high profile criminal cases of
any person in American history in the sense that it
is a reco case against a former president and future president.
A former and future president. She didn't know the future
part necessarily at the time, but and with that going on,
(25:22):
she's going to have flagrant ethical issues, like think, think
about this, don't you think that you might wanna, you.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Know, make sure that you're crystal clear that you are
as clean as clean as clean can be if you're
going to bring the biggest criminal charge in the history
of the state of Georgia. Yeah, I'd want to make
sure that everything that I was doing personally was as
(25:52):
clear and uh and protected as possible. There was also,
by the way, a big story. I don't know if
you talked about this yesterday. I'll mention it now as
we get ready to go to break, but I may
talk about it a little bit tomorrow. Do you see
the big Fox News story saying that tons of FBI
agents told the Department of Justice there was not probable
cause to conduct the raid at mar Lago and the
(26:15):
Biden Department of Justice, which I believe worked in concert
here with Fanny Willis, Nathan Wade, and all of them
just said, we don't care, we're doing this. So the
Biden Department of Justice overruled the FBI, which is supposed
to be an independent arbiter of fact finding, and said,
even though you have qualms issues with whether this probable
(26:37):
cause warrant is being issued correctly, go do it. We're
basically ordering you to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, of course, I mean not suprising at all.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Right, But the fact that some of these FBI agents
are now coming out and saying, hey, just so you know,
we push back internally and said this probable cause is
not sufficient to justify rating the home of a former president.
The fact that all of this Biden weaponization of lawfair
(27:07):
not one person is going to be held accountable for it.
I mean, if you're out there and you're saying, okay,
what were the consequences of all of this illegal targeting
of President Trump? Unless there's some major indictment that's coming
that I'm not privy to, and I think by the
way it should be, it seems quite clear to me
(27:28):
that the Biden team is just going to say, yeah,
we got away with it. I know they're quizzing Jack
Smith today, but I'm sure that he will say under oath,
he'll just lie and say there was never any political
consideration at all associated with the charges that the federal
government brought. All I do is look at the facts.
I don't care whether you're a Democrat or Republican. I mean,
I can tell you exactly what his testimony is going
(27:50):
to be, and it's all going to be a lie.
But it looks like they're going to get away with it.
So Trump won, yes, but the lawfair that was used
against him is not going to end with Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Can I do a hard turn just to get into
Scott Bessen thing before I get ready to sign off
for the end of the year. Scott Bess in, Treasury Secretary.
I know we're going in a totally different direction now,
but we covered the Fanny Willis thing. We really just
wanted to let you hear her freak out.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That was.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
That was quite a quite a moment, Scott Bess And
you're talking about supply and demand. Turns out it it
does actually apply to the housing market, and illegal immigration
does affect the housing market.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
Play cutting the story that the Biden administration doesn't want
to talk about the mass unfettered immigration they have pushed
up rents, especially for working Americans. There's a recent study
out from Wharton School that shows every one percent increase
in population, rents won up one percent.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
So President Trump, by the enforcing the border sending home
more than two million illegals rents, we're now seeing D
and C rent coming down ebstantially. I think that that
will continue this for the rest of the year. We
brought interest rates down, so we've seen more mortgage rates down,
(29:09):
and I think everything else will follow.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That turns out the basic laws of economics play still apply.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yes, And this is I think one of the most
important things about how you can say, Okay, what does
immigration do to cost of living in many different cities.
You know, everybody elected Mom Donni because they're upset about
what the overall cost of.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Living is in New York City. How much cheaper do
you think New York.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
City cost of living would be if there were zero
illegal immigrants in New York City. I think there'd be
a lot more people able to live a lot more affordably.
So when you pull illegal immigrants out of the population,
there's fewer people here, which means rents come down. This
is basic economics, but it's good to see that basic
economic laws still apply.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
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Speaker 1 (31:25):
Welcome back into Clay and bug ahead. I'm gonna you
know what, Clay, I'm gonna take this one, even though
I think you were supposed to, because it's my last
one of the year, and you're gonna be able to
hang out with everybody for six hours the next couple
of days, and I'm gonna be sad. I'm gonna miss
all of you until the new year, and then we're
gonna be back rocking and rolling and uh, let's let's
get into some of this year. Clay, apparently not willing
(31:47):
to let byguns be byguns on this one. Terry from
Minnesota left us a talkback BB who wants to weigh in.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Bucking Clay. It's your boy, Terry here from the Crescent, Minesota. Again,
I'm at lunch walk. Yeah, it's not Paton. Uh, Okay,
it's Patina. Okay, you're putting the m fastest on the
wrong syllable. Okay, let's get this right. Your boy here
is an English major. Okay, think about it, guys, it's Patina. Okay.
If you collect coins, if you collect cars, you know
(32:18):
of this. It's not Paton. All right.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I'm just gonna say that a little something called Merriam
Webster's Dictionary disagrees with both you and Buck. I flagged this,
by the way, Buck parcel fun talkback. I'm getting hate
mail for you over your gun choices. I don't even
this came back.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh nice, nice, we have we have the senior citizens
with their nineteen elevens getting angry again.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Nice, get ready, Buck. The subject matter was poor choice
of words, and then the first sentence was poor choice
of words. I would have responded sooner, but power has
only recently been restored. If you own a nineteen eleven,
you need a sippy up. This is what he's quoting
you as saying. I suppose I live in the mountains
(33:04):
of north central Washington. I listen to those insulting words
on a hand cranked AM radio. I personally do not
own a nineteen eleven. I have a SIG two twenty.
It's a high quality tool. I have a friend from
the army, and she can bust more clays in the
air with her nineteen eleven than most men can hit
(33:27):
with an expensive Bonelli twelve gage shotgun. You have insulted
many brother and sister veterans. I taught and trained the
instructors for the ten Mountain division, and then enjoy your
rose wine at your naked next Peak Pistols meeting. Look
forward to hearing you bragging on winning the women's division
(33:48):
at Camp Perry. Steve b Uh, that's an email I
legitimately got from somebody named Steve b today.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
So if he's listening on his hand cranked radio.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
That you're angry at Buck, I don't know what do
you think about guns?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That we're not the same person like you're It's not
like you're doing two voices here.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Why is he writing this to you?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Don't I think he thought that it was me. I
then I was going after the guns. Oh, Ricky, Ricky
and Houston K t R. H.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Great station down in Houston. F. F.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Gift admire Clay's unwavering confidence and Buck's humility.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Any real listener knows.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
That Buck's argument was Biden would be running and the
only way he wouldn't was if Kamala replaced him. But
Buck fell on the sword that is Buck Island, so
Clay could feel good about himself married Christmas guys.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I mean that there's some truth into that. I don't
want to relitigate this. I don't want to re litigate this.
But my thing all along is that it has to
be bid. If it's not Biden, it's Kamala. But then
there was one point where I said, Biden's gonna run.
Biden did technically run, but he bailed on his run,
so you know we're gonna you know, we got we
gotta just sort of. I took the l on it, though,
and I bought played the most expensive steak I've ever
(35:08):
bought anyone in my entire life, and we got a
whole magic show out of it.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
So that was fine. It was great. That was a
really fun stake.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And by the way, hopefully you had a great Christmas party, Carrie,
I imagine was improved in the vast majority of planning
that so Carrie put on a great Christmas party. Hopefully
we're gonna be able to do some more of those
in South Florida in the years ahead, and that will
be a good opportunity to also go sample some more
(35:37):
steaks starting very soon when Kamala announces her So I
don't think we will get it in twenty six though,
because I think we're gonna have to run. I don't
think she'll officially announce until like February or something of
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I think what you're saying is there's a lot of
time that can pass, and that the polls can change,
and that as Democrats pay closer attention, they may realize
what a disaster she would be even to be in
the race. She will box out Gavin Newsom, and perhaps
it is you who shall be buying mistakes. But either way,
sneak or no steak, it has been a fantastic twenty
twenty five, so might even say fabulous. And I just
(36:12):
want to say I love all of you very much.
Thank you, so much for listening. My birthday is December
twenty eighth, I will be forty four years old, and
this has been truly one of the best years.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I can remember. It has been great here on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I became a dad, my wife who's incredible, even plays
a lot of fun day to day, so it's been wonderful.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So thank you all so much. Have a very very
merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
And whether you're a flute player or a nineteen eleven owner,
or who else have we upset recently, just Mary Rose Drinkers,
you're great too.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We love all of you.
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