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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show final hour
before Christmas for either Buck or myself. Buck is out.
He will be back on January sixth. He and his
lovely wife Carrie are taking a baby moon trip and
they are going to be on the road post Christmas.
I encouraged him to do it. You may have heard
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me talking about it. If you have kids or grandkids
that are expecting, one piece of advice if you're first,
because once you have one, two and three and four,
I mean everybody knows, it's pure chaos, almost impossible to
do anything. I do. Give anybody that I hear is
having their first baby the advice plan a really awesome
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trip just the two of you go away because you
are going to be in the firing line as parents
for a long time. Best bit of advice I got,
and it's proven to be so true. Once you have
young kids, you don't go on vacation, you go anymore.
You go on family trips. And a lot of you
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right now are going to be on family trips during
the holidays, and you know exactly what I'm talking about.
It's actually more tiring than just going and working, cause
you're chasing kids around everywhere. If you got young kids,
you go to the beach, or you go to the pool.
You know what I'm talking about. You got to be
on them like a hawk to make sure they're not
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in the water. It is not relaxing. It is a
family trip, not a vacation. Until your kids get old
enough where they can kind of take care of themselves.
Take that baby moon. Buck is going to be taking
a baby moon. He and Carrie as they get ready.
We're excited to have their first baby in April. It's
going to be super awesome. Couple of hours. Encourage you
to download the podcast. We've had some fun worse takes
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of twenty twenty four. An hour one. I gave you
my presidential ratings of my lifetime since nineteen eighty. A
lot of you reacting to that, and I thought there
would be. You know, it's controversial, you're ranking presidents. What's
mostly in my comments right now are people who are
Indiana Hoosier fans upset because I said Notre Dame's gonna
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blow you out today, and they are Sorry, Indiana fans,
Notre Dame is going to wreck you. That's the first
college football playoff game taking place in snowy South Bend tonight.
I thought people were gonna be like, I can't believe
you've got so and so president. There's some of that. Actually,
a lot of you agree with my rankings overall. But
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the number one thing in my comments right now I
just jumped in is my entire instagram is just all
Indiana Hoosier fans furious at me for saying what I
think is gonna be the reality, which is Notre Dame
is going to blow you out. But I wanted to
start off this final hour by saying again what I
said at the top of the show to start today,
Thank you. I think because of you, guys, twenty twenty
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four has been one of the most monumental years American history.
And if you think about what we have all just
experienced together just since June. Joe Biden gets obliterated by
Donald Trump on June twenty seventh in the presidential debate.
Late July, well was it July thirteenth, Trump comes within
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a quarter of an inch in Butler, Pennsylvania of having
his head blown off on live television. Mercifully, by the
grace of God, his ear is clipped and he survives.
Can you imagine how much different the world is today
if that assassin had been successful. July twenty first, Trump
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suddenly finds out he's got a new opponent because Joe
Biden drops out, Kamala Harris gets elevated. They will be
writing books about twenty twenty four long after all of
us are gone, as one of the craziest presidential elections
and years ever. And I feel incredibly fortunate that we
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all got to spend that year together that we were
on Buck and I doing our best to fight the
good fight for fifteen hours a week, and I appreciate
all of you. And I've been thinking a lot about
the future, really as a dad or a granddad, or
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a mom or a grandma. I know that a lot
of you think about this as well, but in particular
and a lot of time to think on the trip
that I made to Israel, and one of the things
that has stood out to me about twenty twenty four
is good and evil is real. And I really think
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it's important to understand that because one of the things
we learned in twenty twenty four that is alarming for
me and I think we have to fix in the
years ahead is a lot of our young people have
lost the ability to distinguish between good and evil. And
I know it's a holiday season and I want to
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think about I want you to think about this with me,
if you would. I wanted to save this final hour
to have this conversation with all of you, because I
know a lot of you are going to be sitting
around your Christmas tables, variety of different ages, having conversations
across generations. There's gonna be a lot of young people.
And there are some signs that are really positive I
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think about young people in this nation. I'll give you
a positive before I dive into the things that have
me a bit troubled. Young men in this country showed
up and voted for Donald Trump in enormous numbers. The biggest,
according to the Wall Street Journal swing in voting of
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any group was young men went from Biden plus fourteen
in twenty twenty to Trump plus fourteen in twenty twenty four. Now,
there are a variety of different polls out there, but
I'm specifically referencing the voter analysis from the Wall Street Journal.
That's a seismic twenty eight point swing. Young men, I believe,
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are done with the BS and they realize they've been
lied to. And I think a lot of young women
are starting to see it too. For COVID, imagine if
you were sixteen years old and suddenly they shut down
your high school and you didn't get to go to prom,
and you didn't get to finish your basketball season or
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your soccer season, and you didn't get to hang out
with your friends that summer because they shut down all
the different hiking trails, and they shut down the public
basketball courts, they shut down the beaches, the swimming pools,
and then they to old Jay, Hey, Joe Biden sharp
as attack. You're profoundly distrustful now of the government at large.
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And I think this is going to be a big
story going forward. But also here's what troubles me young people,
and I don't think we talked about this, but according
to a poll, forty one to forty percent thought that
the murder of that United Healthcare CEO is justified. Young
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people on many college campuses from the East coast at
Colombia to the West coast at UCLA overwhelmingly set up
protests on campus to say that the Palestinians were the
force for good and the Jewish people were the force
for evil in the Middle East. If you cannot distinguish
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between good or evil, we are in a really dangerous
place as a society. And coming back from Israel, I
want to share some of the stories, and I'm putting
it in my own words, but producer Ali was there
with me, and Andrew, who is our tech engineer, was
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there for a lot of these conversations as well. There
were three experiences with Israeli's that I had that really
stood out, and I want to tell you each of
their stories, what I learned from them and why I
think it's important in the United States because some people
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I read hop in every now and the mentions, they're like,
why should I care what goes on in Israel. Maybe
some of you out there of that opinion. Maybe some
of you are misguided and you actually think that Israel
is the force for evil in the Middle East. Maybe
you've consumed content making those arguments. I want to tell
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you that what happens in Israel, I believe echoes with
what happens with Western civilization going forward, and one of
the profound evils that has taken root in this country
that we have to destroy, I believe is the idea
that America is not a force for good, that our
history is evil, and as a result that any of
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our founding fathers or the documents that they created, whether
it's Declaration of Independence, whether it's Constitution, whether it's the
Bill of Rights, all of it should be destroyed because
they don't have the moral legitimacy to have created it. Understand,
that's what attacking this country's founding is actually about. It's
about delegitimizing our history to such an extent that we
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got to rename Washington d c. Or we got to
tear down the Jefferson Memorial because Thomas Jefferson happened to
have owned slaves, or all of these different attacks which
are predicated on the idea that we should define people
not by the best thing they did, but by the
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worst thing they did. And to me, what Judeo Christian
culture largely coalesces around is the idea of aspiring to
be better versions than ourselves and offering people forgiveness and
redemption when they are the worst version of their selves. Now,
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every single person out there listening to me knows that
inherently in all of your lives. If people in the
public arena defined you by the worst thing that you
ever did, you would look like a profoundly awful human being.
If every single person listening right now, if the worst
thing that you ever did suddenly went public on social
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media and everybody saw it, you would be defined in
this modern era as an awful human being, and you
might go viral for it, and everybody would judge you
based on it. And I don't care who you are.
Every single one of you listening to me right now,
you got something in your mind. You're like, oh, man,
if that went public, I would have been done for it.
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Maybe it happened twenty years ago, maybe it happened forty
years ago, maybe it happened last week. You know it
to be true. That's what the woke mind virus is doing.
They want to define us, drag us all the way
back down to the worst, most base version of ourselves
and say this is who we are. To me, what
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Judeo Christian values are about is understanding that bad things
can be done, but elevating humanity to the best versions
of ourselves. When I go to Washington, DC, and I
look out and I see the Washington Monument, and I
see the Jefferson Memorial, and I see the Lincoln Memorial,
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and I see the MLK Memorial and the World War
Two Memorial. I don't think about the worst thing that
any of the individuals involved in those places, the Vietnam
War Memorial, the Korean War Memorial, the New World War
I Memorial. I think about collectively the best version of
ourselves and what we can accomplish. That, to me is
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what Western civilization is. Embracing the best from the past,
understanding that none of us are perfect, but that we
can aspire to a higher version of ourselves, and that
that should be the goal. And that's one of the
lessons one of the things that kept resonating for me
as I traveled through Israel, which in many ways is
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the birthplace of religion and also to a large extent,
the birthplace of civilization. That area is when we come back.
I want to tell you about three stories that I
heard that I found to be profoundly moving that I
think will impact all of you from the Holy Land
as we get closer to Christmas. I'd encourage you to
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keep listening grab this. I hope these stories you'll be
able to share with your friends and family as we
move closer to Christmas, and I'm thankful that I was
able to go to Israel, a place where many people
out there dream of going your whole lives thanks to
one of our sponsors, the IFCJ, that's the International Fellowship
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of Christians and Jews. I talked about the history of
Judeo Christian relations and the aspirational goals of both of
those religions and trying to rise to a better version
of yourself and continue to be a better version of
yourself in the years ahead. That's what the IFCJ does.
From providing bomb shelters, fortified vehicles, hospital that can convert
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underground to be able to protect everybody in an er
that literally can be taking place inside of a parking garage,
They're also providing Hanukkah food boxes filled with necessities to
those in need. What they do, I'm blown away by
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of Christians and Jews and the unity that both bring
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Spend Christmas Eve with the guys. Find them on the
iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back
in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I'm talking about Western civilization.
I'm talking about Jdaeo Christian values here a few days
before Christmas and the experience that I had in Israel.
Until you know, on Christmas Eve, we're going to have
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a special interview with a tour guide who took us
around the Old City of Jerusalem. For thousands of years,
that has been the central location of incredibly historic Christian,
Jewish and Muslim religious locations, and so I think you
guys are going to enjoy that. But I'm talking about
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some of the things that I learned based on conversations
that we had and one of the stories that stuck
with me that was so proound, profound, And you guys
know I'm awful at pronouncing names, so I may screw
this up. Malchi shim tav is the father of one
of the kids that's currently being held hostage in by
Hamas in Gaza. He was kidnapped. His son was at
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the Nova Festival. Now, for those of you who don't remember,
the Nova Festival is kind of like a Bonnaroo, It's
like a Burning Man, It's kind of like a Coachella,
one of these big old school It would have been
a Woodstock, one of these large music festivals where tons
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of kids come to a large extent eighteen to thirty
five year old, but a lot of really young people.
And right now the wound is still very fresh there.
But when you walk onto those grounds, they have big
placards that they have put in place with everybody's image
on them who was murdered that day, over four hundred people,
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and also many of them were kidnapped by Hamas when
they came across the came across the border and began
to kill people because they were Jewish on October seventh,
which was the deadliest day for Jewish people since the Holocaust,
and they were killed entirely because they were Jewish, nothing else,
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no other reason. To me, it is the most profoundly
evil act that I have seen in recent history. Certainly
nine to eleven was our version of what happened on
October seventh. But what distinguishes what happened to Israel from
nine to eleven is they took hundreds of hostages. And
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I talked with this gentleman whose son has been held
hostage for over four hundred and thirty days. And when
I say you look into his eyes, he does not
look like he has slept for four hundred and thirty days.
He said, his son, who was twenty when he was kidnapped,
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turned twenty one and now twenty two in captivity. Can
you imagine what it would be like to have in
this holiday season your son or daughter, young, healthy, effervescent,
went to a music festival and has now been held
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for over four hundred and thirty days as a hostage,
simply because they have to be Jewish. I'm going to
tell you a little bit more about his story when
we come back, and a couple of the other stories
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it today. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Awful news by the way, and I'm going to continue,
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but it really ties in with what I'm talking about
right now. This is breaking news. A lot of people
are injured after a car plowed into a crowd at
a German Christmas market in what is suspected to be
a terror attack. I'm reading from the New York Post.
This just happened. A car plowed into a group of
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people shopping at a Christmas market in eastern Germany Friday,
leaving many wounded in what officials are saying was a
targeted attack. Driver was immediately arrested after what local outlets
are calling a terror attack. In the city of Magdeburg,
according to the German news outlet Build, So more details
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of this are going to come out. There's been other
attacks in Christmas markets like this, but again this one
happening in Germany, and it ties in exactly what I'm
talking about good and evil. If you attack someone because
of their religion, you're evil period. If Israel they will
put down their weapons tomorrow, the country wouldn't exist in
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a week. If every Middle Eastern country put down their weapons,
there would be peace in the Middle East. Immediately. I
was talking as we went to break about the dad
whose son was in captivity for his twenty first and
his twenty first birth twenty first and twenty second birthday.
He said, on that day at the Nova terror attack,
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they were texting with their son, and they also had,
as many of you probably do with your kids, an
ability to track their cell phones on their own cell phone,
and they said, he suddenly went silent. Imagine what it's
like to know that there's a terror attack underway at
a music festival that your son or daughter went to.
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They're texting you that they can hear gunfire, that there
are terrorists approaching them, and then suddenly you don't hear
anything at all from them. That's what happened to tons
of Jewish family. He's on October seventh, and that dad
told me. He said, all we could do was just
look at the phone. And they saw the phone moving.
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And they had been talking with their son about where
he needed to go and how he could get away,
and giving him advice and telling him that there were
terrorists everywhere, thousands of them that had poured across the border,
and they said, suddenly the phone started to move, and
first they thought, oh, this is great. He's gotten in
a car. He's getting away. And as they were watching
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that phone, suddenly their son's phone started going right toward Gaza,
and they were furiously they said, texting him, you're going
the wrong way. Turn around. They thought he was lost.
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They could watch his phone speeding across the farm land there,
getting closer and closer to Gaza, and then they saw
it go in to Gaza and it vanished. And they
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have not heard from their son in four hundred and
thirty days. Hamas took him because he's Jewish. They don't
know if he's dead. They don't know if he's alive.
The last thing they saw the last contact they had
with their son was his cell phone going into Gaza.
They desperately hoped maybe somebody stole the phone, maybe somebody
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was running off with it. Then they found out that
he was a terrorist. Talk about good and evil. Look
into someone's eyes who is a parent. I said, have
you can you sleep? He said no, basically hasn't been
able to sleep for four hundred and thirty days. That's evil.
Good and evil exists. It's important to call it out.
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Talked with a mom, Leora bin Sir. She came to
Nova and metas she had a gun on her waistband handgun,
sat down and told me her story. On October seventh,
she was in a hospital. She had just given birth
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to her third child. One day before. October sixth, twenty
twenty three. They all woke up that morning with missiles
being fired all over Israel. They were all told to
go into their bomb shelters. She was texting with her husband.
Her husband was back at their home with their two
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older kids, young kids all five and under. Slowly from
inside the hospital with a baby nursing on her, she
became aware that terrorists had come into Israel real and
were inside of her husband's kibbuts the village murdering people.
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Her mom was there. She was texting with her mom.
Grandma was in town as grandmas are because there had
been a baby born and she wanted to be able
to help with those younger kids. Her husband. They didn't
have guns at that time. Her husband stood by the
door with the biggest butcher knife he could find to
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try to defend the kids if the terrorists came in.
I want you to think about that good and evil
is real, okay, And it's emotional to hear these stories.
She was texting with her husband and with her mom.
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There's nobody there to protect them. People being murdered left
and right next to them because they're Jewish. Nobody's coming.
She called her brothers, who had been in the IDF.
Every eighteen year old in Israel just about serves their
country because they have to, because people want to kill
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them because they're Jewish. She texted her brothers said, get
your guns. They're gonna kill my kids and my husband
and my mom, our mom. You have to get there.
Brothers got in the car loaded up with all the
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guns they could get rushed there. There's no protection. People
being murdered left and right. They get to the door.
Mercifully they get her husband and those kids out. They
save them. They go back to look for mom. Grandma.
Grandma is sixty five years old in a different room,
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different house. There, her son's found her murdered, riddled with bullets.
And when they found her, think about this for a minute,
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she was holding a picture of her grandkids. They killed
her because she was Jewish. Evil is real. I talked
with that mom, three kids, all under five, and I said,
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because I saw she was wearing that gun on her hip.
She said she's never left the house without that gun
on her hip since. Think about that. In the hospital
with a baby, she said, she thought it's just going
to be the two of us, now, her and that baby.
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She thought her husband was going to be killed. She
thought her kids were going to be killed, her mom
was killed. That just happened last year, over a thousand
people murdered because they were Jewish. I just told you.
At the Christmas market in Germany, somebody just drove a
car through it. American college kids protested and said the
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Jews are the bad guy. A lot of young people
are saying, hey, that United Healthcare CEO, he got murdered.
Oh the killer's the good guy. A country is in
profound difficulty in trouble when there is not a recognition
that good and evil still exist, and it's even more
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dangerous when there is an inability to tell between the
two and what happened there, it's already happened here right
on nine to eleven. We know it. There are people
in this country right now who want to kill us
because they are evil and they believe that the way
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that we live is evil. And so when people say, oh, well,
you didn't go into Gaza, I don't have to. I
don't have to because I know what Hamas did on
that day, and they would kill every Jew in the
world if they could, and they would celebrate while they
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did it. That is evil. And I understand it's not
every Muslim person. And if you judge anybody based on
their religion, you're an imbecile. There are awful evil Christians,
and they're awful evil Jews, and they're awful evil Muslims
and every and everybody else right an atheists and whatever
religion you choose or don't choose to support. But good
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and evil is real. And when you stare upon it.
It's important to call it out. I'll give you another
story from inside that kibbutz, and then I'm gonna tell
you one more to finish up. Do you know why
they have the bomb shelters there. It's not to protect
from people running around with AK forty seven's riddling bodies
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with bullets. It's because all the time they shoot rockets
into Israel from other countries and so on. That morning,
when they started to shoot rockets, they did that intentionally
because they wanted everybody in those bomb shelters. All these
homes have to have bomb shelters. Think about how crazy
that is. All of them have to have bomb shelters.
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You know what they did. They went in and lit
those homes on fire because they knew the people were
then going to have to run out of the bomb shelters.
If you walk around in any of these kibbutz's, they're
burned out. They waited outside until moms and dads and
their kids came out, and they executed everybody as they
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came out, or they took them a hostage. I stood
in front of one house where a mom and dad
were shot to death trying to hold the door of
their bomb shelter closed and they had three little kids
behind them that all died of smoke inhalation because their
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home was burned down. If you got young kids or
you got grandkids, imagine being parents holding those doors with
everything you got while the terrorists are firing at you.
You're murdered when they found them, they are holding the door,
and all of your kids die of smoke inhalation behind
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you after watching you get murdered. That happened all over
the border with Gaza. I know it's easy to say, oh, well,
that's the Middle East. Why should I care about it?
Israel is the front line of Western civilization in this country.
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If you do not stand with Israel, then you are
standing against Western civilization, Judaeo Christian values, basic human rights
for men and women around the world. And if they fall,
they're going to come for other countries. You want to
talk about the danger of what might happen next. They're coming.
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They believe that we are evil, we're not. Again, that
analogy is perfect. If Israel put down their weapons, they
would all be dead tomorrow. If the Middle East put
down their weapons, there would be peace. Israel's the good guy.
We've got to stand with them when we come back.
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I'll tell you one more story rolling into Christmas that
I think is really important. And I certainly appreciate all
you guys listening to me, and I understand it's going
into Christmas, but I think these are important conversations. Some
people say, hey, I'll just expect you to tell me, like,
what's a better movie Home Alone? Or you know, the
Christmas story, the answers Christmas story. By the way, all
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the Home Alone is good. But I know so many
of you are going to be with friends and family
over the holidays. I want you to be sharing these
stories with the kids that are home from college that
frankly are knuckleheads and a lot of them don't know
any better. And I want that image with you as
you get ready to be with your friends and family,
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to think about that alignment between Christians and Jews. I mean,
I just told you there's a car terror attack just
happened in Germany. Evil is real, and the importance of
being able to distinguish between good and evil is maybe
the most foundational element of the United States, the most
profoundly I think good country to ever exist in the
history of the world. When they try to tell us
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that our history is awful. When they try to denigrate
us and tear down our founding fathers and our leaders,
it's about stripping away our moral authority to see evil
and call it out. That's what they're doing. It's important
to understand this, and I hope you'll talk with the
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young people in your friends and family as the holiday
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Welcome back Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I want to
finish with a story that I thought was compelling, powerful
and perfect going into Christmas. So I'm talking about my
trip to Israel, the Holy Land. On Christmas Eve. We're
going to have an interview with a history guide to
who told us all about the Western Wall, all about
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the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the Muslim holy sites,
to all of it. I think you're really gonna enjoy it.
But there was a man named Neer Metzger. Forty eight
year old dad was kidnapped and murdered, stood inside of
a bombshelter for seven hours while his neighbors were being murdered,
hoping that his son and daughter and his niece they
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would survive. They did, and I stood on a concrete
platform with him, which was the only remaining part of
a home that was buried but burned, and the people
who lived there, the man and woman were murdered. And
we stood there and we looked out and you could
see Gaza in the distance. And by the way, Israelis
have a great sense of humor, oftentimes about the danger
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that they face, as people who deal with danger often do.
It's a bit macob. I said, how the world, why
do you live here? Why do you live here? And
they said, other than the rockets, it's amazing. Other than
people trying to kill you and firing the rockets, it's amazing.
But as I stood there with near Betsker, I said,
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you gotta come back here. He said, yeah, I want
to rebuild it. I said why. He said, I want
Hamas to look over here at the village they tried
to destroy, and I want them to see it bigger, better,
more profoundly successful than it ever was before. And I
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want them to understand they failed. We want And I
just thought it was such a profound message. Good will
triumph over evil if enough people pursuing good are active.
I hope all of you pursue good this holiday season.
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Thanks from all of us, Merry Christmas.