October 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of politics, culture, and sharp commentary. The hour kicks off with the latest on the government shutdown, now stretching into weeks, as Clay and Buck dissect explosive remarks from Democratic House Whip Katherine Clark, who admitted the shutdown is being used as “leverage.” Speaker of the House Mike Johnson fires back, accusing Democrats of holding American families hostage to push for $200 billion in Obamacare subsidies and benefits for illegal immigrants. The hosts argue this political brinkmanship is driven by internal Democratic fears—Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries worried about primary challenges from the far-left, especially after Mamdani’s surprise victory in the New York City mayoral primary, which shook the party establishment.
The conversation pivots to the New York City mayor’s race, analyzing the fiery second debate featuring Curtis Sliwa, Andrew Cuomo, and Mamdani. Clay praises Sliwa’s populist message but warns that staying in the race could guarantee a Mamdani win. They highlight Cuomo and Sliwa pressing Mamdani on housing ballot initiatives, exposing his evasiveness and lack of clear policy positions. Clay brands Momani as a “cipher”—a social media-savvy candidate with no substantive record—contrasting him with Cuomo’s long political history.
Listeners weigh in with passionate talkbacks, challenging Clay’s stance on Sliwa dropping out and sparking a spirited debate on political strategy versus principle. The hour then shifts to cultural commentary, starting with a lighthearted discussion on 1980s music icons, from Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” and “Billie Jean” to Bon Jovi classics, revealing Clay’s surprising lack of music nostalgia compared to Buck’s picks.
Next, the show tackles the uproar over Trump’s privately funded White House ballroom project, with Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt assuring transparency and zero taxpayer cost. Clay and Buck defend the addition as a tasteful upgrade, contrasting Trump’s vision with the controversial design of the Obama Presidential Library, which they blast as “one of the ugliest buildings ever,” sparking a broader critique of modern architecture and America’s trend toward uninspiring civic design.
The hour closes with a cultural hot take: Buck rails against the fashion trend of baggy jeans for women, urging listeners to reject styles that sacrifice beauty for conformity. Clay teases a fun Friday segment featuring his own high school photos, promising laughs and nostalgia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of play and buck flying by today. Everybody,
thank you for being here with us. We always appreciate
getting to hang out with all of you across this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Great land of ours.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We had just in the last hour, we pulled the
highlights from our friend Caroline Levitt, the White House Press Secretary,
addressing a whole range of issues, including the government shut down,
the White House ballroom, building of the building of the ballroom,
we're the ballroom building. And then we've also got for
(00:32):
you the New York City mayor's race. There was a debate,
a second mayor ol debate last night. Team let me know,
we've asked mister Sleew to come on. Do we have
a day yet for when he's going to come on
and talk and explain to everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Not yet? All right?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Is it a little busy? I got got a lot
of days left to boys big radio show. Though it's
a big radio show. I just had a lot of
people listening. I'm just putting that out there, so maybe
maybe be good for him to come and talk to
us for a few minutes. Anyway, that's fine, But we
have invited him. We've invited Cuomo as well. We'll see
if he wants to join. Probably not, but we're trying.
(01:10):
We're putting out the ask. In the meantime, Clay Democratic
housewhip Catherine Clark, she is now famous. This goes to
the shutdown issue. So come back to New York in
a minute. We got a whole country we got to
talk about as well. This shutdown is starting to feel
like it's gonna have some nasty consequences for some people.
(01:31):
I mean, there's gonna be some paychecks missed. I understand
people will be getting back pay. But you know, it's
easy to say when you're not living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I get it. There's stress there, there's stress there.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Here is the Democrat House whip though, Catherine Clark, who
is saying.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Who said?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
This was an interview in the Chad program program? Who
is that?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do we know who that?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I know?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I know he's a Fox guy right, Oh he's a
Fox guy. Yeaow they said this to a Fox guy.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, okay. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Here she is interview with Chad Pergram and here is
how it went play eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I mean, shutdowns are terrible, and of course there will
be you know, families that are going to suffer. We
take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of
the few leverage times we have.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't think that's what you want to say out
loud here, And Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,
certainly jumped on this one Play cut twelve.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The second highest ranked House Democrat in leadership whip, Katherine Clark, admitted.
They admitted openly that they have shut the government down
and that they are using hard work in American families
as leverage for what so that they can show a
fight against Trump and also so that they can restore
two hundred billion dollars in free healthcare paid for by
US taxpayers to illegal aliens. Yes, that's in their bill,
(02:57):
and it's just part of the one point five trillion
dollar that they have demanded to spend.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We're not going to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They know we're not going to do that. And she
said in her own words today quote, we know that
families will suffer, but this is only one of only
the leverage times that we have. She said that in
her own words, and it was pretty shocking today hear
them say that. They usually don't say the quiet parts
out loud.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Clay Democrats are throwing a tantrum and people are suffering.
They're the ones taking the hostages here, Buck, I got
a theory. It's not going to make you happy. New
York City is screwing everybody in every direction. It's all interconnected.
Hakim Jeffries is worried that Mam Donnie's top eight is
going to challenge him in his house district in the
New York City area. Chuck Schumer is terrified that AOC
(03:41):
is going to challenge him in the twenty twenty eight
Senate primary in New York. And also Mom Donnie is
about to destroy the entire fabric of New York City
if he is elected mayor. What seems to be a
large national issue is actually when you go back and
dial in and analyze where the motivation for everyone that
(04:03):
is in a significant position of powers actions, where those
motivations for those actions come from. It's Hakeem Jeffries terrified
of a further left wing congressman taking his seat in
New York City. It's Chuck Schumer terrified of a further
left wing Senate candidate, primarily AOC, taking his seat in
New York State. And it is Mamdanni far left wing
(04:24):
having put the fear of God into Akeem Jeffries, and
into Chuck Schumer because he triumphed in the Democrat New
York City mayor all primary over Andrew Cuomo, the old,
more established, more moderate, if still moronic voice of Democrat politics.
In other words, all of this is a direct result
of the surprise upset victory of Mamdani in New York City,
(04:47):
which made Jeffries and Schumer both think, uh, oh, we
might get quomoed. Do you buy it? I think it's
all connected. I was very interested to hear from Jim
Jordan that he thinks that the political calculations within the
Democrat Party are a bigger thing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Than even the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Massive Obamacare subsidies that they need or else. The price
of people's healthcare in a lot of cases going to
go way up because Obamacare is a disaster. But never
underestimate the politicians of the left and their ability to
make it all about them, all about them, Chuck Schumer.
(05:30):
What would Chuck Schumer be willing to do to make
sure that he stays in the game and stays in
the Senate whatever he can do.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think that takes, yeah, whatever whatever it takes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think they looked at Cuomo and they said, wait
a minute, he had all the resources of the Democrat Party.
This guy mom Donnie came out of nowhere, running far
to the left of Cuomo, a name that has been
a legacy institution for two generations, two and a half
generations in New York City. Everybody knows the name Cuomo,
(06:00):
and Cuomo got steamrolled by mom Donnie. And I think
Hakeem Jefferies looked over his shoulder and said, uh, oh,
whatever that guy's name is. That's mam Donnie's top assistant
that's threatened to run against him, is going to beat me.
They've already seen aoc out of nowhere when a primary
in New York against a longtime congressman, So Chuck Schumer's
had her on the radar for a long time and
(06:21):
been afraid of her. I think, and so all of
this decision making on a national scale comes down to. Look,
it probably doesn't make sense that the Democrat Party's top
House leader and top Senate leader are both from the
same city. America is kind of a big place. I
understand New York City is a significant part of America,
but it shouldn't necessarily be the entire cultural firment of
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the Democrat Party. But that's where we are right now,
with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer just living within a
couple miles of each other in the New York City area.
So I think this is all rooted to fear provoked
by Mam Donnie. And remember, unless I'm wrong, Buck, neither
Schumer nor Hakeem Jeffries have yet endorsed Mom Donnie in
the New York City mayor's race, despite the fact that
(07:04):
he's the Democrat nominee, which is kind of wild. I
believe Kathy Hokeel did. But she's a moron as we
all know. But uh, but I believe Kathy Hokeel has
endorsed Mom Donnie. I think she's the only statewide, big
powerful person to have done so in the state of
New York so far. Since we're talking a little mum
Donni here, Well actually, first, let let's go to this,
(07:26):
uh this from Curtis Slee. Well, he's got a lot
of attention, Curtis Is. He's making waves and making noise
for sure up there on the debate stage. She's not
not unusual, he is. Uh, well, you know what, I'm
just gonna let I'm just gonna let Curtis speak for
Curtis here. This is from the second mayoral debate last night.
Cut nine hit it.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
It's us versus stem, It's us versus the insiders and
the billionaires. It's us versus Cuomo, It's us versus Sorahan.
This is a campaign not about power. This is a
campaign about you, the people.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I know many of.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
You, hardworking New Yorkers. You tell me you've been pushed aside,
You've been silenced. These are the people that have all
the money, all the connections, they've made their back room deals.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But we have something more important.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
We have you, the people, and we're not going to
be silenced anymore. We're going to fight tonight. I want
you to look at the content of my policies to
know that I've served this city for more than fifty years,
the city that I love, and I'm going to share
with you my vision to make New York City safer again,
to make New York City more affordable again, and where
(08:37):
everybody once again can live the American dream.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's a good speech. He's not going to be mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He is by far the best option. I'm not arguing
with anybody out there that's a die hard Curtis Sliwa
fan that if you or I had a magic wand
then we could pick the same person of the trio
still alive in this primary to be nominated, it would
be Sliwa. Problem is Sliwa stays in the race, He's
going to guarantee that Mom Donnie wins. Eric Adams saw it.
(09:06):
Eric Adams is a current mayor. He stepped out and
he endorsed Andrew Cuomo. They were court sided at the
Knicks last night, and I just I don't again, we
got the invite out to Curtis Sliwa. It's not that
I disagree with what he's saying, it's that he cannot win.
And if he can't win, then unless he prefers Mom
(09:26):
Donnie over Cuomo, and maybe he does, we'll ask him
direct if he comes on the program, then he is
making a decision that is going to put Mom Donnie
into the mayor's office. Maybe he thinks Mom Donnie's gonna
win no matter what, which is, well, there's the possibility
of that too, certainly something that we could look at
and say, well, Mike factor into his calculations there. But
(09:48):
since we're talking a little Mom, Donnie. This was a
moment from the debate where Cuomo and Sliwa tag teamed
the Kami, who, in classic kami, won't tell you what
he really wants to do until it's too late and
he already has power. This is about ballot initiatives, and
(10:09):
which is very straightforward. People vote on a ballot initiative,
yes or no, Yes or no. Do you want this?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Donnie is like, I don't know about these ballot initiatives.
Listen to cut ten.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So there was reference to the three housing related Charter
amendment questions.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I know mister Cuomo's on the record is saying he
favors them.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We just heard mister Sweewa say that he's against them.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Where do you stand on those I'm appreciative that those
measures will be on the ballot and that New Yorkers
will be able to cast their.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Votes for them.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I know that we desperately need to build more housing
in the city, and I also know that the jobs
we create in the building of that housing should be
good jobs as well.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So what is your opinion? Yes, what is your opinion?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, It's so true to be a politician here. I
got it.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
They're pointing out what I was about to the question.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
I think on the stage you can see two people appealing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
For the answer the chorus too for once.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
My question to you was do you support the three
ballad amendment questions?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I have not yet taken a position on those ballot questure.
What a shaka?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
What a shock?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well you're gone once he takes it and change it anyway,
What a shaka? Clay? What do you think? Look?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I think it is almost impossible to know what mom
Donnie is going to do because he's never actually done
anything of substance.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He is an.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Incredibly articulate, glib, smiley, glad handling politician who is very
good at social media, and he's good at motivating young people.
But unlike Andrew Cuomo, for better or worse, who has
a lifelong record of things he stood for and done,
and unlike Curtis Leewa, who has the same, Mam Donnie
is an articulate.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Shadow.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean he he hasn't actually done anything, which is
why the best thing I can say for Mom Donnie
is just he's going to get into office and not
do any of the things that he said he was
going to do to get into office, and that's not
ideal when you're a politician. The whole purpose of being
a politician is to tell people what you'll do with power.
I think it's possible, Mom Donnie will get power and
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not be remotely what Mam Donnie to get power said
Mom Donnie would be. Does that make sense that he's
the opposite of a transactional politician and he's actually just
a politician who wants to get into office and likes
the power, but isn't really necessarily going to use it
to try and do the things that he claimed he was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's the best.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I just think, yeah, I just think it's funny that
he's savvy at Mom Donnie is savvy enough to know
stay a cipher as much as you can on some
of this stuff because he's in the number one seat
and no need for him to make any waves by
taking any positions. And remember, democrats, there's a long history,
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well at least a long and recent history of Democrats
knowing what the person they're voting for really thinks and
approving of it when they say what they have to
say to get elected. Perfect example of this was Barack
Obama on gay marriage when he ran in two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They knew that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Remember it had just lost Prop eight had lost in California,
and then the court overturned that Barack Obama was going
to make. You know, rather, Barack Obama was given a
pass on his gay marriage position because it was believed
that that was by the Democrats, that that was what
he had to say in order to become a part
of what he had to say in order to become president.
(13:45):
I think Mom, Donnie gets the same leeway from the Commis,
and I think that's true. Remember also how the gay
marriage pivot happened for Democrats. Joe Biden went on and
said it before Obama. Do you remember that it was
Joe Biden in some random Today Show interview I think,
suddenly decided that he was going to come out in
favor of gay marriage after not having supported it for
(14:09):
thirty years or whatever of his political career. And the
Obama team was furious because they said, this was going
to be our big initiative, This was going to be
a big statement that the president was going to make.
And then Joe, you stepped all over it and made
it look like Obama was following you as opposed to
being the leader. Look, we'll talk more about this. We'll
(14:30):
take some of your calls. I was in New York
earlier this week to moderate and help raise money at
a Tunnel to the Towers event after a big golf
outing at Liberty Nationals nearly the twenty fourth anniversary of
nine to eleven. But there were people there, three different
individuals who stood up in the dinner and told the
story of the impact that Tunnel of the Towers has
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And politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (16:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know, I tend to think that everybody loves me.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's not always true, and that includes podcast listener David
from Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's got advice for me.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
KK Clay, you really need to change the name of
your upcoming book from Balls to Pussy Willow or the
short version of that, because you keep telling Sleewell to
drop out and not having no balls man. Sometimes you
got to fight, to fight as an underdog, even an
extreme underdog, David versus Goliath, all these types of examples.
You don't just give up because you're expected to lose.
You fight with dignity, and it's called having balls.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We thought you'd know more writing a book about it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's good, it's funny. It's a funny talk back. Book's
already been published, so I can't change it to pussy Willow.
Probably wouldn't sell as well, though, so well better with Democrats.
William in New York City also has got fire back
here wr listener, he's not happy back listen play Travis.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
I agree with you on a lot of things, but
on the Kurtis leewa New York situation, he should not
drop out. Republican ze to fight. We went from fight, fight,
fight last summer to now somehow it's Republican ze to surrender, surrender,
surrender to the Democrats. Absolutely not. We fight, we win, all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Right, buck, I'm my New York City mayor campaign has
taken a hit this week because there's been angry women
calling in now we got angry men calling in. I
managed to have stirred up everybody. By the way, he
should drop out because he's gonna lose. Isn't there a
scene in Zoro where the Great Anthony Hopkins tells Antonio
bunderis the newer Zorro, don't start a fight with that soldier.
(17:52):
He's a professional soldier and you'll die. He's basically like,
not all fights are actually a good idea in the moment,
learned to fight for There are other ways of viewing this.
I'm just saying like there sometimes, if you can't win,
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
If we were talking this before I play. We have our.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Fantastic array of rejoin music that corresponds with many great
songs over the decades. I think Tears for Fears Rule
of the World is the single. If you asked me
to pick one song that is the greatest song of
the eighties, all the eighties. I know this is a
(19:21):
big this is a big thing. I go Tears for Fears.
I actually go Tears for Fears Rule the World. How
about you? I'm not very good at the nineteen eighties.
I could give you a lot of nineteen eighties songs.
Thirties what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I know?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But I was not see I'm a little bit tone deaf.
So until I could go out to bars and stuff,
I didn't really pay a lot of attention to music.
I would probably gonna, I'm gonna I need to I
need to be able to phone a friend here for
my wife who would be an expert in all this.
I would probably go, uh, what's the song from U
(20:00):
Karate Kid?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like the I which one? I mean I'm thinking about like.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The Japanese flute music that plays when he's doing the
like the stuff on the Cruel Summer. Cruel Summer is
a great, great song. I mean, I'm thinking, I'm just
I've lost all credit. But first of all, guys want
me to change my book title. Now I'm being just
thrown under the bus here for not having a great
(20:29):
nineteen eighties song I'm scrolling through right now.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I like the Cruel Summer song from the Karate Kid like.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It makes me think I thought you were definitely gonna
be a hair band guy, like Guns n' Roses or
something nothing. Nineteen eighties. What was the young Guns to
John bon jovie song? That was a good one, you
know what, I'm Steel Horse, I Ride and one Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was pretty good movie.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know. I'm the eighties.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was again, I know you're younger than me, but
I was ten when the eighties ended. Yeah, I was
not a music guy. And this out to you, Clay.
You can listen to eighties music even if you were
young during the eighties. Okay, I'll actually I'll give you
the answer. The answer is Thriller. Thriller is the greatest
song of the nineteen eighties, greatest music video, perhaps greatest
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music video probably ever. But certainly I think if you
asked me, and I know some of you are gonna
be like, he's a like he's never convicted to my knowledge,
and it doesn't. And this was like nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I actually think.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Billy Jean is a better song than Thriller. That's why
I would go Billy Gene over Thriller as well. But
I think Thriller is more famous because of the dance. Now,
you may be right about the video and the way
it brought in, but after like three minutes or four
minutes of stonewalling and a not a great pick from
me for Karate Kid, I would probably say Thriller is
to me, I'm just gonna be.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Honest with you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I didn't know that asking you about eighties music would
be like asking me about SEC football. Like I did
not see that coming, so this I learned. I went
through to look because I'm also not good with what years.
There's a great game. Have you played this game where
you have to you get more or less on the
year that a song came out and you have to
(22:14):
Has anybody else played this game? We played it with
my family up in Michigan. One of my cousins brought it.
It is somebody text or somebody look it up in
the studio because I'm not gonna be able to find it.
It is one of the most fun family games you
ever played. But the whole premise is buck you have
to know the year songs came out, so they will
play like a song you have like the song play
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and then you have to say more or less and
it's based on the prior songs that you have picked.
So it's early on it can be easy because you
can be like, Okay, that was after nineteen thirty five
and before you know, nineteen ninety five. But as you
progress in order to win, they get closer and closer.
It's one of the most fun games I've ever played.
By the way, Crazy Train, I would say, is one
(22:58):
that everybody knows from Ozzy Osbourne. I'm running through like
the best songs, but I'm gonna stick with thriller. I
think as my song. I'm tone deaf and I listened
to sports talk radio in the car when I was
a kid. My dad would put on sports talk radio.
We never listened to music, and so I can tell
(23:20):
you lots of things about nineteen eighties and ninety sports
talk radio not great on the music. Until I was
out chasing girls. That's when I started paying attention to music.
We all have things to learn. A lot of ways
to expand our horizons. Let's talk Caroline Levitt here and
the White House ballroom situation. So they're building a ballroom.
(23:41):
It is not going to be one hundred stories gold
with Trump written on. It is going to be very tasteful,
very classy, very nice. But the media is all up
in arms about this. Wasn't there a major Obama era
White House renovation too? Didn't that cost a whole bunch
of money? Am I missing something? No, it's three hundred
million dollars. By the way, the game has hit and
it's amazing. If you're a family and you like music,
(24:03):
Hitster it's amazing, Just an awesome game. Sorry, that's what
we played okay, good to know, never heard of it.
Learn something new there added to the roster for the
summer vacation. Buck, You're going to be glad, Winter vacation,
Christmas vacation, You're gonna be glad that you did it.
Here's Caroline Levitt on the White House Ballroom cut forty
hit it.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
The President has been incredibly transparent. I would reject any
notion otherwise when it comes to this ballroom project. It's
something he personally has obviously taken an interest into and
has talked with all of you in this room many
times about you have seen the model in the Oval office.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Last night he showed up for you.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
But when this plan was presented and when these renderings,
as soon as they were complete, the President directed me
to come out here and to share them with all
of you. I did an entire opening remarks about what
this ballroom project was going to look like. With any
construction project, there are changes over time as you assess
what the project is going to look like, and we'll
continue to keep you apprized of all of those changes.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But just trust the process.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
This is going to be a magnificent addition to the
White House for many years to come, and it's not
costing the taxpayers anything. The President is privately funding this
ballroom addition to the White House grounds.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think it's a cool idea. I mean, I don't
see what all the hubbub is about this. Trump first
of all, I think has done a lot of really
nice things. We saw some of it. We're in the
Oval with him back in June. He's some of the
artwork that's been placed and replaced and everything else going on,
and it's really more more of a visual impact. But
(25:38):
I think that the beautification of public buildings, including addition
to the White House, is something to be happy about.
I know Trump's doing it, so they have to hate
it is how the Libs view it. But I'm actually
with him on this one. I've seen the drawings, I've
seen this stuff. It looks good to me. I think
it's going to be great and like everything, it's going
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to be used by everybody for all time to come.
So there have been a lot of complaints. You and
I are fortunate to have been in the parts of
the White House that are very historic. We've been in
the Oval Office, We've been to every part of the
White House. Basically, what did I say to you, I'll
just I'll like, when we were sitting waiting to go
(26:20):
in to see Trump, I said to you, you may or
may not remember this. We were sitting there, and I'm like,
you would never believe that this is the waiting room
for the most powerful building in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It looks like your way.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And this is not me trying to be insulting to
the White House or anything else, but it looks like
you're waiting to go meet in an insurance hallway for
a you know, midutual of Omaha or something. Do you
remember Do you remember what I said to you when
we're waiting there, Clay, I can't believe you're wearing sandals
to meet the president.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I had on youth, I had on you.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I did not have my I had my passport or
else they wouldn't have let me in because an infernal
real id. But my point on this is there is
and should be something very majestic and august about the
process of meeting with the leader of the free world.
The buildings that surround our president should be spectacular, and
(27:23):
there is a balancing between history. Look, if you're fortunate
enough to have gotten to go into some old houses
built in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You preserve them for their history.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Not because they are incredibly necessarily beautiful to this day.
What they balance and have always balanced. I mean, Harry
Truman like gutted the whole White House. For those of
you out there who are not history people, the whole
thing got burned back in the War of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I was gonna say the British.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The British, they did their own renovation of our White
House in eighteen twelve, those sons of guns. So you're
constantly balancing old and new in an effort to try
and create the most functional place to do business anywhere
in the world. And Trump is innately gifted, I think,
in many ways at balancing old and new so that
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places have the popular, the particular pomp and circumstance that
you would expect to surround an office such as this.
So so we haven't talked about this yet, but I
actually think this is a good place that we could
transition into it. What the heck is with the Obama
Presidential Library, So, I.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Mean, truly, it looks so weird.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It looks like where the bad guy from the he
Man cartoon would live.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's it's like it looks like something or Castle Gray Skull,
or like the borg from Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I always get wors if you Star Trek, you know,
it looks like something that's meant to evoke fear and misery.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Real talk everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
The Obama Presidential Library, which if you have no seeing
the photo, we should put one up at clambuck dot
com just so it's easy reference for you if you
have not seen the photo of this thing, Clay. If
someone told me, especially if they made it like a
black and white photo so it seemed like it was older,
that this was where they used to take people for
interrogations in East Germany, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
This building's scary. Look at his hell what are they doing?
What are they doing there?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Is sometimes remember the picture of Obama that they hung
in the National Portrait Gallery where he's surrounded by all
this greenery and it looks kind of like he's hiding
in a you know, in a forest. I think, and
this is my big theory on life in general. This
I think goes so many different directions. We perfected a
lot of things, and now people needlessly overcomplicate things that
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don't need to be complicated. I'll give you an example
that has nothing to do with the Obama White House
buck sorry, the Obama Presidential Library. We used to be
able to turn the heat on and off in any vehicle,
very very easy. You reached out. I've talked about this.
You had a knob. The blue line made it cooler,
(30:09):
the red line made it warmer. Everybody understood it. You
could do it from the time you were five years old.
Half the time I get in a car now, I
can't figure out how to turn on the heat or
the air. I was in a hotel in New York
City this week. Nice hotel. You got to get an
engineer to know the light switches. It's insane light switches
and turn the shower on. When did we get to
(30:30):
a point where we need to re engineer things that
were working perfect? I think a lot of what happens
now is people decide that they're going to change fully
functional things. Nobody's ever come out and said, you know
what worked better than the wheel? A modified wheel. The
wheel pretty important invention, and by and large it's very
similar to what we did thousands of years ago. I
(30:52):
think that the Obama Presidential Library is evidence of this
idea that design has to consistently evol and my point
on it would be the Greeks in the Romans are
pretty good at designing things, and I'm okay with using
many of the classical architecture that they created as a
b aesthetics. Esthetics that there's a reason why Gothic great
(31:14):
Gothic cathedrals, which were built over hundreds of years in
some cases, are still incredible and beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There are some enduring esthetics.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
There are some things that are elevating and spectacular regardless
of time.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
This is why we look back.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
At different periods in history and buildings that are super old,
and we even look at the Pyramids right thousands of
years old. We look at things we go, wow, that's
something really impressive. And I just think that for some reason,
I think it was probably like the late sixties into
like the late seventies, America decided to build the ugliest
crap imaginable. You see this in a lot of civic
(31:55):
buildings and public schooling SMBI the FBI headquarters in downtown
DC is a perfect representation of this. And we just
need to come to grips with the fact that this
stuff building Yeah. The j Edgar Hoover Building also looks
like it should be the headquarters of the STAZI. This
stuff is depressing and it doesn't have to be that way.
It is the opposite of elevating. It brings you down.
(32:18):
And I'm just being real here. If the Obama Presidential
Library looked really cool, even if it was a modern
aesthetic and this will shock none of you. But I'm
not a big modern aesthetic guy. I like the Hits.
I like the old school, you know, so does Trump.
By the way, yeah, by the way, I've been to
the Bill Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I've been to a bunch. I like, I'm a history.
Is it nice? I don't ever know what it looks like?
Very nice? Very well.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's very admission for ladies eighteen to thirty, right, Yeah,
they have a ladies Night every day at the Bill
Clinton Presidential Library.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But the best place to go to be girls at
Little Rock.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You know, when the esthetic is there, I will say,
the Obama Presidential Library is looking like one of the
ugliest buildings I've ever seen. Honestly, it is looking like something.
And I know that there's some I'm sure genius architects
who have created it. It's horrible, So I just why
(33:14):
it's not that hard, you know, actually you can.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
There was a there was a modern art, Modern architecture
blah blah, intro like one on one class. They taught
it at Amhers Clay and they showed we had built
the library at Amhers College is one of these just
nineteen seventy five monstrosities. It's so ugly and this otherwise
very pretty campus. They demolished a gray granite like Gothic,
(33:43):
gorgeous building to make this thing. And he's like, that's
why you need to learn about architecture. That's a great analogy.
I'll also point this out. It ain't just buildings they
tried to tell as fat people in spandex was something
to be aspirational moving towards too. I think it's actually
intention old to try to destroy beauty in general and
things that we all agree to be beautiful, to try
(34:06):
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Speaker 1 (35:40):
All right, so we're real quick on time here, Clay
and I just jumped in. You were supposed to close
this out. I just want to say something. All these
song takes perfect stuff for a Friday afternoon. So we'll
get to you because everyone's lighting you up.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Here's I thought you like rock and roll. We'll get
to your takes. Everybody on the music.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But the thing I want to say, and Clay is
just learning about this now that fashtionable young women in
American cities are being told to wear the baggiest, ugliest
jeans you've ever seen in your life. Don't let them
do it, ladies. Tell your daughters, tell your granddaughters. They're
going to look back at the photos they take now
and say, how was I such a victim to this
ugly fashion. You look terrible in it. You might as
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well wear a burka. Don't do it, ladies, baggy jeans,
No bueno. I signed on to this. I didn't know
it was a trend. It's not going to surprise any
of you that I'm not very aware of trends. But
I just sent the crew my high school photos because
Buck was talking about bad high school choices, and so
we can have some fun with this tomorrow on Friday.
(36:40):
The senior class photo of me is not an ideal hairstyle,
so just if you want to be entertained, we will
have some fun with that tomorrow, and do whatever you
can to avoid getting arrested by the FBI. In the meantime,
don't shave any basketball games, kids, or see tomorrow
Third hour of play and buck flying by today. Everybody,
thank you for being here with us. We always appreciate
getting to hang out with all of you across this.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Great land of ours.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We had just in the last hour, we pulled the
highlights from our friend Caroline Levitt, the White House Press Secretary,
addressing a whole range of issues, including the government shut down,
the White House ballroom, building of the building of the ballroom,
we're the ballroom building. And then we've also got for
(00:32):
you the New York City mayor's race. There was a debate,
a second mayor ol debate last night. Team let me know,
we've asked mister Sleew to come on. Do we have
a day yet for when he's going to come on
and talk and explain to everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Not yet? All right?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Is it a little busy? I got got a lot
of days left to boys big radio show. Though it's
a big radio show. I just had a lot of
people listening. I'm just putting that out there, so maybe
maybe be good for him to come and talk to
us for a few minutes. Anyway, that's fine, But we
have invited him. We've invited Cuomo as well. We'll see
if he wants to join. Probably not, but we're trying.
(01:10):
We're putting out the ask. In the meantime, Clay Democratic
housewhip Catherine Clark, she is now famous. This goes to
the shutdown issue. So come back to New York in
a minute. We got a whole country we got to
talk about as well. This shutdown is starting to feel
like it's gonna have some nasty consequences for some people.
(01:31):
I mean, there's gonna be some paychecks missed. I understand
people will be getting back pay. But you know, it's
easy to say when you're not living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I get it. There's stress there, there's stress there.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Here is the Democrat House whip though, Catherine Clark, who
is saying.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Who said?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
This was an interview in the Chad program program? Who
is that?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do we know who that?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I know?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I know he's a Fox guy right, Oh he's a
Fox guy. Yeaow they said this to a Fox guy.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, okay. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Here she is interview with Chad Pergram and here is
how it went play eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I mean, shutdowns are terrible, and of course there will
be you know, families that are going to suffer. We
take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of
the few leverage times we have.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I don't think that's what you want to say out
loud here, And Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,
certainly jumped on this one Play cut twelve.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The second highest ranked House Democrat in leadership whip, Katherine Clark, admitted.
They admitted openly that they have shut the government down
and that they are using hard work in American families
as leverage for what so that they can show a
fight against Trump and also so that they can restore
two hundred billion dollars in free healthcare paid for by
US taxpayers to illegal aliens. Yes, that's in their bill,
(02:57):
and it's just part of the one point five trillion
dollar that they have demanded to spend.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We're not going to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They know we're not going to do that. And she
said in her own words today quote, we know that
families will suffer, but this is only one of only
the leverage times that we have. She said that in
her own words, and it was pretty shocking today hear
them say that. They usually don't say the quiet parts
out loud.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Clay Democrats are throwing a tantrum and people are suffering.
They're the ones taking the hostages here, Buck, I got
a theory. It's not going to make you happy. New
York City is screwing everybody in every direction. It's all interconnected.
Hakim Jeffries is worried that Mam Donnie's top eight is
going to challenge him in his house district in the
New York City area. Chuck Schumer is terrified that AOC
(03:41):
is going to challenge him in the twenty twenty eight
Senate primary in New York. And also Mom Donnie is
about to destroy the entire fabric of New York City
if he is elected mayor. What seems to be a
large national issue is actually when you go back and
dial in and analyze where the motivation for everyone that
(04:03):
is in a significant position of powers actions, where those
motivations for those actions come from. It's Hakeem Jeffries terrified
of a further left wing congressman taking his seat in
New York City. It's Chuck Schumer terrified of a further
left wing Senate candidate, primarily AOC, taking his seat in
New York State. And it is Mamdanni far left wing
(04:24):
having put the fear of God into Akeem Jeffries, and
into Chuck Schumer because he triumphed in the Democrat New
York City mayor all primary over Andrew Cuomo, the old,
more established, more moderate, if still moronic voice of Democrat politics.
In other words, all of this is a direct result
of the surprise upset victory of Mamdani in New York City,
(04:47):
which made Jeffries and Schumer both think, uh, oh, we
might get quomoed. Do you buy it? I think it's
all connected. I was very interested to hear from Jim
Jordan that he thinks that the political calculations within the
Democrat Party are a bigger thing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Than even the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Massive Obamacare subsidies that they need or else. The price
of people's healthcare in a lot of cases going to
go way up because Obamacare is a disaster. But never
underestimate the politicians of the left and their ability to
make it all about them, all about them, Chuck Schumer.
(05:30):
What would Chuck Schumer be willing to do to make
sure that he stays in the game and stays in
the Senate whatever he can do.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think that takes, yeah, whatever whatever it takes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think they looked at Cuomo and they said, wait
a minute, he had all the resources of the Democrat Party.
This guy mom Donnie came out of nowhere, running far
to the left of Cuomo, a name that has been
a legacy institution for two generations, two and a half
generations in New York City. Everybody knows the name Cuomo,
(06:00):
and Cuomo got steamrolled by mom Donnie. And I think
Hakeem Jefferies looked over his shoulder and said, uh, oh,
whatever that guy's name is. That's mam Donnie's top assistant
that's threatened to run against him, is going to beat me.
They've already seen aoc out of nowhere when a primary
in New York against a longtime congressman, So Chuck Schumer's
had her on the radar for a long time and
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been afraid of her. I think, and so all of
this decision making on a national scale comes down to. Look,
it probably doesn't make sense that the Democrat Party's top
House leader and top Senate leader are both from the
same city. America is kind of a big place. I
understand New York City is a significant part of America,
but it shouldn't necessarily be the entire cultural firment of
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the Democrat Party. But that's where we are right now,
with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer just living within a
couple miles of each other in the New York City area.
So I think this is all rooted to fear provoked
by Mam Donnie. And remember, unless I'm wrong, Buck, neither
Schumer nor Hakeem Jeffries have yet endorsed Mom Donnie in
the New York City mayor's race, despite the fact that
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he's the Democrat nominee, which is kind of wild. I
believe Kathy Hokeel did. But she's a moron as we
all know. But uh, but I believe Kathy Hokeel has
endorsed Mom Donnie. I think she's the only statewide, big
powerful person to have done so in the state of
New York so far. Since we're talking a little mum
Donni here, Well actually, first, let let's go to this,
(07:26):
uh this from Curtis Slee. Well, he's got a lot
of attention, Curtis Is. He's making waves and making noise
for sure up there on the debate stage. She's not
not unusual, he is. Uh, well, you know what, I'm
just gonna let I'm just gonna let Curtis speak for
Curtis here. This is from the second mayoral debate last night.
Cut nine hit it.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
It's us versus stem, It's us versus the insiders and
the billionaires. It's us versus Cuomo, It's us versus Sorahan.
This is a campaign not about power. This is a
campaign about you, the people.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I know many of.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
You, hardworking New Yorkers. You tell me you've been pushed aside,
You've been silenced. These are the people that have all
the money, all the connections, they've made their back room deals.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But we have something more important.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
We have you, the people, and we're not going to
be silenced anymore. We're going to fight tonight. I want
you to look at the content of my policies to
know that I've served this city for more than fifty years,
the city that I love, and I'm going to share
with you my vision to make New York City safer again,
to make New York City more affordable again, and where
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everybody once again can live the American dream.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It's a good speech. He's not going to be mayor.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He is by far the best option. I'm not arguing
with anybody out there that's a die hard Curtis Sliwa
fan that if you or I had a magic wand
then we could pick the same person of the trio
still alive in this primary to be nominated, it would
be Sliwa. Problem is Sliwa stays in the race, He's
going to guarantee that Mom Donnie wins. Eric Adams saw it.
(09:06):
Eric Adams is a current mayor. He stepped out and
he endorsed Andrew Cuomo. They were court sided at the
Knicks last night, and I just I don't again, we
got the invite out to Curtis Sliwa. It's not that
I disagree with what he's saying, it's that he cannot win.
And if he can't win, then unless he prefers Mom
(09:26):
Donnie over Cuomo, and maybe he does, we'll ask him
direct if he comes on the program, then he is
making a decision that is going to put Mom Donnie
into the mayor's office. Maybe he thinks Mom Donnie's gonna
win no matter what, which is, well, there's the possibility
of that too, certainly something that we could look at
and say, well, Mike factor into his calculations there. But
(09:48):
since we're talking a little Mom, Donnie. This was a
moment from the debate where Cuomo and Sliwa tag teamed
the Kami, who, in classic kami, won't tell you what
he really wants to do until it's too late and
he already has power. This is about ballot initiatives, and
(10:09):
which is very straightforward. People vote on a ballot initiative,
yes or no, Yes or no. Do you want this?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Mom?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Donnie is like, I don't know about these ballot initiatives.
Listen to cut ten.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So there was reference to the three housing related Charter
amendment questions.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I know mister Cuomo's on the record is saying he
favors them.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We just heard mister Sweewa say that he's against them.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Where do you stand on those I'm appreciative that those
measures will be on the ballot and that New Yorkers
will be able to cast their.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Votes for them.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
I know that we desperately need to build more housing
in the city, and I also know that the jobs
we create in the building of that housing should be
good jobs as well.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So what is your opinion? Yes, what is your opinion?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, It's so true to be a politician here. I
got it.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
They're pointing out what I was about to the question.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I think.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
I think on the stage you can see two people appealing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
For the answer the chorus too for once.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
My question to you was do you support the three
ballad amendment questions?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I have not yet taken a position on those ballot questure.
What a shaka?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
What a shock?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well you're gone once he takes it and change it anyway,
What a shaka? Clay? What do you think? Look?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I think it is almost impossible to know what mom
Donnie is going to do because he's never actually done
anything of substance.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He is an.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Incredibly articulate, glib, smiley, glad handling politician who is very
good at social media, and he's good at motivating young people.
But unlike Andrew Cuomo, for better or worse, who has
a lifelong record of things he stood for and done,
and unlike Curtis Leewa, who has the same, Mam Donnie
is an articulate.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Shadow.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean he he hasn't actually done anything, which is
why the best thing I can say for Mom Donnie
is just he's going to get into office and not
do any of the things that he said he was
going to do to get into office, and that's not
ideal when you're a politician. The whole purpose of being
a politician is to tell people what you'll do with power.
I think it's possible, Mom Donnie will get power and
(12:22):
not be remotely what Mam Donnie to get power said
Mom Donnie would be. Does that make sense that he's
the opposite of a transactional politician and he's actually just
a politician who wants to get into office and likes
the power, but isn't really necessarily going to use it
to try and do the things that he claimed he was.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's the best.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I just think, yeah, I just think it's funny that
he's savvy at Mom Donnie is savvy enough to know
stay a cipher as much as you can on some
of this stuff because he's in the number one seat
and no need for him to make any waves by
taking any positions. And remember, democrats, there's a long history,
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well at least a long and recent history of Democrats
knowing what the person they're voting for really thinks and
approving of it when they say what they have to
say to get elected. Perfect example of this was Barack
Obama on gay marriage when he ran in two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They knew that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Remember it had just lost Prop eight had lost in California,
and then the court overturned that Barack Obama was going
to make. You know, rather, Barack Obama was given a
pass on his gay marriage position because it was believed
that that was by the Democrats, that that was what
he had to say in order to become a part
of what he had to say in order to become president.
(13:45):
I think Mom, Donnie gets the same leeway from the Commis,
and I think that's true. Remember also how the gay
marriage pivot happened for Democrats. Joe Biden went on and
said it before Obama. Do you remember that it was
Joe Biden in some random Today Show interview I think,
suddenly decided that he was going to come out in
favor of gay marriage after not having supported it for
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thirty years or whatever of his political career. And the
Obama team was furious because they said, this was going
to be our big initiative, This was going to be
a big statement that the president was going to make.
And then Joe, you stepped all over it and made
it look like Obama was following you as opposed to
being the leader. Look, we'll talk more about this. We'll
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earlier this week to moderate and help raise money at
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And politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis
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Speaker 1 (16:15):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know, I tend to think that everybody loves me.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's not always true, and that includes podcast listener David
from Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He's got advice for me.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
KK Clay, you really need to change the name of
your upcoming book from Balls to Pussy Willow or the
short version of that, because you keep telling Sleewell to
drop out and not having no balls man. Sometimes you
got to fight, to fight as an underdog, even an
extreme underdog, David versus Goliath, all these types of examples.
You don't just give up because you're expected to lose.
You fight with dignity, and it's called having balls.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
We thought you'd know more writing a book about it.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's good, it's funny. It's a funny talk back. Book's
already been published, so I can't change it to pussy Willow.
Probably wouldn't sell as well, though, so well better with Democrats.
William in New York City also has got fire back
here wr listener, he's not happy back listen play Travis.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
I agree with you on a lot of things, but
on the Kurtis leewa New York situation, he should not
drop out. Republican ze to fight. We went from fight, fight,
fight last summer to now somehow it's Republican ze to surrender, surrender,
surrender to the Democrats. Absolutely not. We fight, we win, all.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Right, buck, I'm my New York City mayor campaign has
taken a hit this week because there's been angry women
calling in now we got angry men calling in. I
managed to have stirred up everybody. By the way, he
should drop out because he's gonna lose. Isn't there a
scene in Zoro where the Great Anthony Hopkins tells Antonio
bunderis the newer Zorro, don't start a fight with that soldier.
(17:52):
He's a professional soldier and you'll die. He's basically like,
not all fights are actually a good idea in the moment,
learned to fight for There are other ways of viewing this.
I'm just saying like there sometimes, if you can't win,
fighting is not the best option necessary. If there you
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
If we were talking this before I play. We have our.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Fantastic array of rejoin music that corresponds with many great
songs over the decades. I think Tears for Fears Rule
of the World is the single. If you asked me
to pick one song that is the greatest song of
the eighties, all the eighties. I know this is a
(19:21):
big this is a big thing. I go Tears for Fears.
I actually go Tears for Fears Rule the World. How
about you? I'm not very good at the nineteen eighties.
I could give you a lot of nineteen eighties songs.
Thirties what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I know?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But I was not see I'm a little bit tone deaf.
So until I could go out to bars and stuff,
I didn't really pay a lot of attention to music.
I would probably gonna, I'm gonna I need to I
need to be able to phone a friend here for
my wife who would be an expert in all this.
I would probably go, uh, what's the song from U
(20:00):
Karate Kid?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Like the I which one? I mean I'm thinking about like.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
The Japanese flute music that plays when he's doing the
like the stuff on the Cruel Summer. Cruel Summer is
a great, great song. I mean, I'm thinking, I'm just
I've lost all credit. But first of all, guys want
me to change my book title. Now I'm being just
thrown under the bus here for not having a great
(20:29):
nineteen eighties song I'm scrolling through right now.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I like the Cruel Summer song from the Karate Kid like.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It makes me think I thought you were definitely gonna
be a hair band guy, like Guns n' Roses or
something nothing. Nineteen eighties. What was the young Guns to
John bon jovie song? That was a good one, you
know what, I'm Steel Horse, I Ride and one Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was pretty good movie.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I don't know. I'm the eighties.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was again, I know you're younger than me, but
I was ten when the eighties ended. Yeah, I was
not a music guy. And this out to you, Clay.
You can listen to eighties music even if you were
young during the eighties. Okay, I'll actually I'll give you
the answer. The answer is Thriller. Thriller is the greatest
song of the nineteen eighties, greatest music video, perhaps greatest
(21:20):
music video probably ever. But certainly I think if you
asked me, and I know some of you are gonna
be like, he's a like he's never convicted to my knowledge,
and it doesn't. And this was like nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I actually think.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Billy Jean is a better song than Thriller. That's why
I would go Billy Gene over Thriller as well. But
I think Thriller is more famous because of the dance. Now,
you may be right about the video and the way
it brought in, but after like three minutes or four
minutes of stonewalling and a not a great pick from
me for Karate Kid, I would probably say Thriller is
to me, I'm just gonna be.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Honest with you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I didn't know that asking you about eighties music would
be like asking me about SEC football. Like I did
not see that coming, so this I learned. I went
through to look because I'm also not good with what years.
There's a great game. Have you played this game where
you have to you get more or less on the
year that a song came out and you have to
(22:14):
Has anybody else played this game? We played it with
my family up in Michigan. One of my cousins brought it.
It is somebody text or somebody look it up in
the studio because I'm not gonna be able to find it.
It is one of the most fun family games you
ever played. But the whole premise is buck you have
to know the year songs came out, so they will
play like a song you have like the song play
(22:37):
and then you have to say more or less and
it's based on the prior songs that you have picked.
So it's early on it can be easy because you
can be like, Okay, that was after nineteen thirty five
and before you know, nineteen ninety five. But as you
progress in order to win, they get closer and closer.
It's one of the most fun games I've ever played.
By the way, Crazy Train, I would say, is one
(22:58):
that everybody knows from Ozzy Osbourne. I'm running through like
the best songs, but I'm gonna stick with thriller. I
think as my song. I'm tone deaf and I listened
to sports talk radio in the car when I was
a kid. My dad would put on sports talk radio.
We never listened to music, and so I can tell
(23:20):
you lots of things about nineteen eighties and ninety sports
talk radio not great on the music. Until I was
out chasing girls. That's when I started paying attention to music.
We all have things to learn. A lot of ways
to expand our horizons. Let's talk Caroline Levitt here and
the White House ballroom situation. So they're building a ballroom.
(23:41):
It is not going to be one hundred stories gold
with Trump written on. It is going to be very tasteful,
very classy, very nice. But the media is all up
in arms about this. Wasn't there a major Obama era
White House renovation too? Didn't that cost a whole bunch
of money? Am I missing something? No, it's three hundred
million dollars. By the way, the game has hit and
it's amazing. If you're a family and you like music,
(24:03):
Hitster it's amazing, Just an awesome game. Sorry, that's what
we played okay, good to know, never heard of it.
Learn something new there added to the roster for the
summer vacation. Buck, You're going to be glad, Winter vacation,
Christmas vacation, You're gonna be glad that you did it.
Here's Caroline Levitt on the White House Ballroom cut forty
hit it.
Speaker 10 (24:23):
The President has been incredibly transparent. I would reject any
notion otherwise when it comes to this ballroom project. It's
something he personally has obviously taken an interest into and
has talked with all of you in this room many
times about you have seen the model in the Oval office.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Last night he showed up for you.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
But when this plan was presented and when these renderings,
as soon as they were complete, the President directed me
to come out here and to share them with all
of you. I did an entire opening remarks about what
this ballroom project was going to look like. With any
construction project, there are changes over time as you assess
what the project is going to look like, and we'll
continue to keep you apprized of all of those changes.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But just trust the process.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
This is going to be a magnificent addition to the
White House for many years to come, and it's not
costing the taxpayers anything. The President is privately funding this
ballroom addition to the White House grounds.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I think it's a cool idea. I mean, I don't
see what all the hubbub is about this. Trump first
of all, I think has done a lot of really
nice things. We saw some of it. We're in the
Oval with him back in June. He's some of the
artwork that's been placed and replaced and everything else going on,
and it's really more more of a visual impact. But
(25:38):
I think that the beautification of public buildings, including addition
to the White House, is something to be happy about.
I know Trump's doing it, so they have to hate
it is how the Libs view it. But I'm actually
with him on this one. I've seen the drawings, I've
seen this stuff. It looks good to me. I think
it's going to be great and like everything, it's going
(25:59):
to be used by everybody for all time to come.
So there have been a lot of complaints. You and
I are fortunate to have been in the parts of
the White House that are very historic. We've been in
the Oval Office, We've been to every part of the
White House. Basically, what did I say to you, I'll
just I'll like, when we were sitting waiting to go
(26:20):
in to see Trump, I said to you, you may or
may not remember this. We were sitting there, and I'm like,
you would never believe that this is the waiting room
for the most powerful building in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It looks like your way.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And this is not me trying to be insulting to
the White House or anything else, but it looks like
you're waiting to go meet in an insurance hallway for
a you know, midutual of Omaha or something. Do you
remember Do you remember what I said to you when
we're waiting there, Clay, I can't believe you're wearing sandals
to meet the president.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I had on youth, I had on you.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I did not have my I had my passport or
else they wouldn't have let me in because an infernal
real id. But my point on this is there is
and should be something very majestic and august about the
process of meeting with the leader of the free world.
The buildings that surround our president should be spectacular, and
(27:23):
there is a balancing between history. Look, if you're fortunate
enough to have gotten to go into some old houses
built in the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
You preserve them for their history.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Not because they are incredibly necessarily beautiful to this day.
What they balance and have always balanced. I mean, Harry
Truman like gutted the whole White House. For those of
you out there who are not history people, the whole
thing got burned back in the War of eighteen.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I was gonna say the British.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The British, they did their own renovation of our White
House in eighteen twelve, those sons of guns. So you're
constantly balancing old and new in an effort to try
and create the most functional place to do business anywhere
in the world. And Trump is innately gifted, I think,
in many ways at balancing old and new so that
(28:11):
places have the popular, the particular pomp and circumstance that
you would expect to surround an office such as this.
So so we haven't talked about this yet, but I
actually think this is a good place that we could
transition into it. What the heck is with the Obama
Presidential Library, So, I.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Mean, truly, it looks so weird.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It looks like where the bad guy from the he
Man cartoon would live.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's it's like it looks like something or Castle Gray Skull,
or like the borg from Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I always get wors if you Star Trek, you know,
it looks like something that's meant to evoke fear and misery.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Real talk everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
The Obama Presidential Library, which if you have no seeing
the photo, we should put one up at clambuck dot
com just so it's easy reference for you if you
have not seen the photo of this thing, Clay. If
someone told me, especially if they made it like a
black and white photo so it seemed like it was older,
that this was where they used to take people for
interrogations in East Germany, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
This building's scary. Look at his hell what are they doing?
What are they doing there?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Is sometimes remember the picture of Obama that they hung
in the National Portrait Gallery where he's surrounded by all
this greenery and it looks kind of like he's hiding
in a you know, in a forest. I think, and
this is my big theory on life in general. This
I think goes so many different directions. We perfected a
lot of things, and now people needlessly overcomplicate things that
(29:49):
don't need to be complicated. I'll give you an example
that has nothing to do with the Obama White House
buck sorry, the Obama Presidential Library. We used to be
able to turn the heat on and off in any vehicle,
very very easy. You reached out. I've talked about this.
You had a knob. The blue line made it cooler,
(30:09):
the red line made it warmer. Everybody understood it. You
could do it from the time you were five years old.
Half the time I get in a car now, I
can't figure out how to turn on the heat or
the air. I was in a hotel in New York
City this week. Nice hotel. You got to get an
engineer to know the light switches. It's insane light switches
and turn the shower on. When did we get to
(30:30):
a point where we need to re engineer things that
were working perfect? I think a lot of what happens
now is people decide that they're going to change fully
functional things. Nobody's ever come out and said, you know
what worked better than the wheel? A modified wheel. The
wheel pretty important invention, and by and large it's very
similar to what we did thousands of years ago. I
(30:52):
think that the Obama Presidential Library is evidence of this
idea that design has to consistently evol and my point
on it would be the Greeks in the Romans are
pretty good at designing things, and I'm okay with using
many of the classical architecture that they created as a
b aesthetics. Esthetics that there's a reason why Gothic great
(31:14):
Gothic cathedrals, which were built over hundreds of years in
some cases, are still incredible and beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
There are some enduring esthetics.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
There are some things that are elevating and spectacular regardless
of time.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
This is why we look back.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
At different periods in history and buildings that are super old,
and we even look at the Pyramids right thousands of
years old. We look at things we go, wow, that's
something really impressive. And I just think that for some reason,
I think it was probably like the late sixties into
like the late seventies, America decided to build the ugliest
crap imaginable. You see this in a lot of civic
(31:55):
buildings and public schooling SMBI the FBI headquarters in downtown
DC is a perfect representation of this. And we just
need to come to grips with the fact that this
stuff building Yeah. The j Edgar Hoover Building also looks
like it should be the headquarters of the STAZI. This
stuff is depressing and it doesn't have to be that way.
It is the opposite of elevating. It brings you down.
(32:18):
And I'm just being real here. If the Obama Presidential
Library looked really cool, even if it was a modern
aesthetic and this will shock none of you. But I'm
not a big modern aesthetic guy. I like the Hits.
I like the old school, you know, so does Trump.
By the way, yeah, by the way, I've been to
the Bill Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I've been to a bunch. I like, I'm a history.
Is it nice? I don't ever know what it looks like?
Very nice? Very well.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's very admission for ladies eighteen to thirty, right, Yeah,
they have a ladies Night every day at the Bill
Clinton Presidential Library.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
But the best place to go to be girls at
Little Rock.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You know, when the esthetic is there, I will say,
the Obama Presidential Library is looking like one of the
ugliest buildings I've ever seen. Honestly, it is looking like something.
And I know that there's some I'm sure genius architects
who have created it. It's horrible, So I just why
(33:14):
it's not that hard, you know, actually you can.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
There was a there was a modern art, Modern architecture
blah blah, intro like one on one class. They taught
it at Amhers Clay and they showed we had built
the library at Amhers College is one of these just
nineteen seventy five monstrosities. It's so ugly and this otherwise
very pretty campus. They demolished a gray granite like Gothic,
(33:43):
gorgeous building to make this thing. And he's like, that's
why you need to learn about architecture. That's a great analogy.
I'll also point this out. It ain't just buildings they
tried to tell as fat people in spandex was something
to be aspirational moving towards too. I think it's actually
intention old to try to destroy beauty in general and
things that we all agree to be beautiful, to try
(34:06):
to I want to continue this because you're actually leading
into one of my feistier tweets from earlier today that
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out there, for the ladies, ladies, I'm looking out for you.
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Speaker 1 (35:40):
All right, so we're real quick on time here, Clay
and I just jumped in. You were supposed to close
this out. I just want to say something. All these
song takes perfect stuff for a Friday afternoon. So we'll
get to you because everyone's lighting you up.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Here's I thought you like rock and roll. We'll get
to your takes. Everybody on the music.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But the thing I want to say, and Clay is
just learning about this now that fashtionable young women in
American cities are being told to wear the baggiest, ugliest
jeans you've ever seen in your life. Don't let them
do it, ladies. Tell your daughters, tell your granddaughters. They're
going to look back at the photos they take now
and say, how was I such a victim to this
ugly fashion. You look terrible in it. You might as
(36:18):
well wear a burka. Don't do it, ladies, baggy jeans,
No bueno. I signed on to this. I didn't know
it was a trend. It's not going to surprise any
of you that I'm not very aware of trends. But
I just sent the crew my high school photos because
Buck was talking about bad high school choices, and so
we can have some fun with this tomorrow on Friday.
(36:40):
The senior class photo of me is not an ideal hairstyle,
so just if you want to be entertained, we will
have some fun with that tomorrow, and do whatever you
can to avoid getting arrested by the FBI. In the meantime,
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