March 13, 2025 • 36 mins
President Trump on Russia/Ukraine war. President Biden never explored ceasefires in any of the wars on his watch. President Trump is not Putin's puppet. Elon Musk is not Trump's puppet. We want the killing in Ukraine and Russia to stop. America First. Trump pokes Canada. Transgender this and transgender that. Mayor Pete is positioning himself to be leader of the Democrat Party. Karol Markowicz columnist and Clay and Buck network podcast host. Climate Change is an excuse to tax the public and the Democrats don't really believe in it. Mahmoud Khalil protesters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now,
let's talk about the Russia Ukraine War and what is
going on here, because there is some reporting about a
ceasefire we need to dive into. And the ceasfire hasn't
been agreed to you yet, but there's movement in that direction.
(00:24):
There is movement in the direction of figuring out what exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Is happening here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know what I was going to break down, break
it down for you. But the Commander in Chief himself,
Donald Trump, just spoke about this moments ago. And here
he is on This is from the guys from the
Oval right here he is cut twenty yeah, from the
Oval Office, cut twenty four an update from Donald Trump
himself on Russia Ukraine moments ago.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Play it well, I would like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
To see a ceasefire from Russia. And we have, you know,
not been working in the dark. We've been discussing with
Ukraine land, pieces of land that would be kept and
lost and all of the other elements of a final agreement.
There is a power plant involved, you know, a very
big power plant involved. Who's going to get the power
plant and who's going to get this and that, and
(01:11):
so you know, it's not an easy process. Phase one
is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have
been discussed. You know, we've been discussing concepts of land
because you don't want to waste time with a ceasefire
if it's not going to mean anything. So we say, look,
this is what you can get, this is what you
can't get. They discuss NATO and being in NATO, and
(01:33):
everybody knows what the answer to that is. They've known
that answer for forty years, in all fairness, so a
lot of the details of a final agreement have actually
been discussed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now we're going to see whether or.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Not Russia is there, and if they're not, it'll be
a very disappointing moment for the world.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now it's in Russia's court.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
As I told you, the way that this is being
reported on is a fascinating look into how the Democrat
propaganda media functions. And so I want I want to
focus in on that because here's where we are. A
war started on Biden's watch that he and the New
York Times and others kept saying Ukraine's gonna win. Ukraine
(02:18):
held them off. The Ukraine's gonna win, and that's not happening,
and they didn't do anything to get a ceasefire. They
didn't do anything to get a negotiation going for three
years and now Donald Trump hasn't even been office two months,
coming up on two months, and you have Ukraine in
principle agreeing to a ceasefire subject to conditions. Fine, look,
(02:39):
you heard Trump just now say it. There's gonna it's
gonna be a process. It's not easy, but we're working
toward it. We're working toward an end to this. And
now Russia has come out and said, Putin has come
out and said, Okay, yeah, let's let's talk about this
ceasefire thing. There are conditions as well, but I'm to
(03:00):
have this discussion or I think that it's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Time that we have this talk.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And he voiced what the New York Times is calling
preliminary support for the thirty day ceasefire proposal. I went
through the New York Times explanation of what's in this,
and it's just astonishing how much they try to shade
the thinking here of anybody who reads this such that
(03:26):
somehow this is Trump just doing Putin.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A huge favor.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is a big favor for Putin, that this is
what Putin wants he wants the ceasefire. Trump wants the
conflict to stop, and Ukraine should want the conflict to
stop as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
People are dying.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
In large numbers every month in this thing, and we
are funding it. I think we're giving them, you know,
like a billion dollars a day or something. I mean,
we are giving them a whole bunch of money. And
we don't want to keep doing that either. So this
isn't about who do you like more, Ukraine or Russia.
This isn't about who's the good guy, who's the bad guy,
who's right and who's wrong. It's how do we end
(04:05):
this thing and how you end to conflict go back
to the Versailles treaty. How you end to conflict is
important too, so that you can get stability going forward
and you don't have mass death. The avoidance of mass
death would be something that I would hope that Democrats
could agree with Trump and the Republicans on here. But
no Slava Ukraini or whatever it is that they say,
(04:29):
you know, fight Ukrainian should fight to the very last
drop of Ukrainian men Ukrainian's blood. According to Democrats in
this country, who aren't doing any fighting and don't really
know what the hell's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Anyway, that's the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And when you read the New York Times update on this,
they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind
of success. Meanwhile, at any point when Biden was president,
did you hear talk of a ceasefire negotiation or a
ceasefire at all? Was there any point at which that, No,
it didn't. So Trump hasn't even been office for two months,
(05:06):
and here we are at a new phase of this
conflict with at least the prospect of ending this thing.
And people got so upset. The Democrats got so upset
about what happened to Zelenski in the Oval office, meanwhiles,
Lenzi's comeback said, look, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know we neither side is gonna be happy here
in this negotiation. Neither side is gonna get everything that
they want. And this is what's so interesting to me.
The New York Times and others in their report and
completely leave off that Trump is saying, look, Russia, you're
gonna get You're gonna get hit with a whole new
(05:45):
level of financial pain here, specifically with regard to EU
purchases EU ability to buy oil and gas from Russia
from the banking system.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Which has still been going on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
By the way, Yeah, I mean, EU care so much
about Ukraine, but they still got to buy a Russian
oil and gas. It's been going down, but they're still
doing it. That there will be financial consequences for Russia
that hurt. A huge part of Russian GDP, a huge
part of the Russian economy has been going to funding
this war off theairs.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It is painful for them too.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I know that we have been led to believe that
Putin is like Stalin Part two, and that he wants
to run rough shot over all of Europe and he
doesn't care how many people die, and he's not a
rational actor and all this stuff. No, I think actually
he would rather just get what he wants out of
this and be able to stop spending so much money
(06:41):
and so many lives on this conflict. And he doesn't
want his country to be feeling economic, true economic pain,
the kind of the kind that Trump is laying out
for him. So this is important, This is a milestone.
This is moving in the right direction. Trump isn't saying
(07:01):
it's a done deal. No one's saying it's a done deal.
But all of the people that are currently reporting on
this who voted for Kamala, which tells you everything you
need to know about their judgment, are acting like.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, you know, this is all going to be a
sellout or whatever. I thought Democrats didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Like war, Well, apparently they like wars that other people fight,
including other Americans. But you know, Democrats actually are not
an anti war party. That's when you really think about
it and you go back, you look at the history.
You know, they just the thing for Democrats is they
want other people fighting wars that they can feel good
about themselves. And is it an the American best interest
(07:38):
to fight the war. That doesn't matter. Democrats only want
to fight wars that make them feel good about themselves
at cocktail parties. That's really what their standard is. And
whether it helps America or not, whether we're losing Americans
or not, that's a secondary consideration. So the fact that
we're getting to a point where even having a discussion
about a cease fire is or should be seen as
(08:00):
very encouraging. You know, we don't sell you remember my mantra,
you don't celebrate early. You never celebrate early there's no
celebration here but progress.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We can be cold and calculating about this and still say, hey, okay,
this is moving in the right direction. And Trump is
saying that there's leverage to be used against Russia here too.
So for all the always Putin's poppet and everything else,
he's saying, Look, does anybody believe for one second that
if Putin is totally unreasonable and blows up these negotiations,
that Trump is going to hesitate to use the tools
(08:31):
at his disposal to turn up the heat on lad.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Of course he will. Of course he will for no
other reason.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Then you don't you don't make Trump, You don't try
to make Trump look silly on the world stage when
he's really dedicated to something. Putin or no, Putin, doesn't
matter who it is. But see, this is what the
Democrats fundamentally refuse to understand about Trump, which is who
he really is and what he is all about. They
just they still don't get I don't know if they
(09:00):
can understand Trump or they won't understand Trump, but the
notion of him as anyone's puppet, as I've been saying
to you, is laughable for anyone who has spent five
minutes with the guy. Really, I mean I've spent a
lot more time with them than that. But anybody who's
talked to Trump for about any serious subject taking orders
from Putin it's as stupid as people saying that that
Elon Musk is Putin's puppet too. Yeah, the guy worth
(09:24):
three hundred billion dollars is going to get ordered around
by Vladimir Putin's so because of financial interest. It's so
dumb that you don't even want to waste brain cells
on it. So I really hope that this is a
breakthrough moment. I think it could be the beginning of
a major breakthrough in this. And here's the truth. I
(09:45):
want the killing to stop, and I don't want to
ever have to think about Ukraine again, really, you know,
and that doesn't make me a bad person. I want
the killing to stop. I want the Ukrainians and I
want the Russians who have been conscripted and are being
thrown to this meat grinder. I want them to go
home to their families. I want the them, you know,
eating chicken nuggets and watching sitcoms and thinking about their
few you know, this whole thing is a waste that's
(10:08):
going on.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I want it to stop. We all should want it
to stop.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And then we don't have to think about it anymore.
I don't want this to be our problem. This shouldn't
be our problem. We've got our own things to worry
about over here, America first, right, So this is all
in line with where we want this to go. And
I think that there's very good reasons for optimism. It's
(10:32):
not a done deal, but I think that there are
good reasons for optimism. Trump also gave an update on Canada.
Less serious than the Russia Ukraine war, obviously, but this
just happened. I want to play this for you. This
is from the Oval Office moments ago. Cut twenty five
hit it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know, the United States can't subsidize a country for
two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need their cars,
we don't need their energy, we don't need their lumber,
we don't need anything that they that they get. We
do it because we want to be helpful, but it
comes to point when you just can't do that. You
have to run your own country. And to be honest
(11:08):
with you, Canada only works as a state. It doesn't
We don't need anything they have as a state. It
would be one of the great states anyway, This would
be the most incredible country visually. If you look at
a map, they drew an artificial line right through it
between Canada and the US, just a straight artificial line.
Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And makes no sense. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Trump is really leaning into this Canada fifty first state thing.
I believe that it's negotiation and pressure from Trump, and
also he likes to poke at the Canadian leadership a
little bit, but on the teriff issue and on what
is financially meaningful in all of this, I think Trump
has a pretty straightforward, pretty straightforward approach. No more free
(11:58):
rides on the American the back of the American people,
No more subsidizing your domestic industry in Canada at the
expense of our consumers unless you want to have the
same thing done to.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You reciprocal tariffs.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And I'm still waiting for someone to explain me why
that's unfair or a bad idea. Right to me, it
strikes me that that should be both fair play and
smart play. And if something is fair play and smart play,
why wouldn't you do it? Why wouldn't you do it
unless there's something Unless there's something I'm missing, we'll get
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Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, welcome back in, and we were just discussing
some of Trump's latest updates from the Oval Office. The
President just spoke moments ago diving into the Russia Ukraine situation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's really hard to.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Read the Democrat press on this whole situation and not
feel like they are rooting for Trump to fail to
achieve a cease fire, even though that means a lot
of people are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Am I missing something? Even though a lot of a
lot more Russians.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Than Ukrainians are gonna die if there isn't a ceasefire
that's durable and that gets to an end of this conflict.
I think that the New York Times is and others
are rooting for failure on this one. I honestly believe that,
and I think when you read their reportage on it,
that is what you come away with. But let's go
(14:47):
to another issue that Trump spoke on. The Canada stuff
is interesting. I don't really know exactly what Trump's going
for on that one. I think it's I think it's
posturing and negotiating. I get that, but he is really
he is really uh poking poking the wolverine, if you will,
or I'm trying to think of what would be a poking?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Do we think of moose?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I always think of Maine, not Canada, Like, what's the
what is the animal most associated with Canada?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
As I say, poking the bear? Is it bears? We
got bears here?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, we got a lot of the same things that
Canada does. Pretty similar places here we have Trump, though,
weigh in on the trans issue in a way that
well only Trump, only Trump would play twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I saw it this morning with one of them is
pretty well known. One is arguing fighting like crazy over
men being able to play in women's sports. I said, yeah,
I thought that was tried. I thought that was about
a ninety five I think it's a ninety five percent issue.
But in a way I want him to keep doing
it because I don't think they can win a race
I and I tell the Republicans, I said, don't bring
that subject up because there's no election right now, but
(15:54):
about a week before the election, bring it up because
you can't lose and everything's transgender. This trends that you know.
It's they have bad politics, but one thing, they stick together.
I wish uh and the Republicans stick together mostly, but
we have a couple that are grand standards and they
always have grand standers in life. But the Democrats they
(16:14):
don't seem they have grand standers, but when it comes
to a vote, they do stick together.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So everything is transition trans that when it comes to Democrats. True,
they simultaneously push the issue everywhere and then pretend they
don't care about the issue anywhere when we say no.
That's the game that they play with trans issues, with
other things too, but specifically on this one, it's they
demand that we obey them, and when we say no,
(16:42):
they say, why are we even talking about this? Why
are you bringing this up? Okay, crazy, that's what they're doing.
I didn't get to this before I mentioned the top
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(17:06):
Bluter Judge, Pete Booter Judge lining up to be the
leader of the Democrat Party for twenty twenty eight. I
will just tell you, I think that this is great
for the Democrats. Big fan of this idea. Hope that
they put tons of money behind Pete, tons of time,
you know, trying to build.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Him up in the media.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, I would love to see a Buddha Judge vance showdown.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think that would be excellent. So I'm just gonna
put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't want to give them too many tips, too
much advice for the Democrats, but yeah, Pete Bouter Judge,
go with that one.
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Code Radio. Welcome back into clay Enbook. Carol Markowitz joins
us now. She is the host of the Carol Markowitz
Show on the Clay Unbuck podcast now work, which we
hope you will all subscribe to and check out also
normally with Mary Catherine ham two shows.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
They're doing fantastically, Carol, great to have you.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
On, Hi Buck, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So let's talk about the first off, did you see
the loons running into Trump Tower? And they've been they've
been rounded up in flex, scuffed and everything else. But
at a lot of Jews for Palestine signs in there's
what's this all about?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, I'll tell you that the Jewish voices for peace
are neither Jews nor for piece. So don't don't take
their word for it. A lot of them just use
the label to say that, oh we we're not like
the other Jews who actually support the existence of Israel.
And they might have, like some relative in the distant past,
(19:49):
that it was Jewish and so they claim that, or
sometimes they don't even have that. But they're also not
for peace because they there was peace on October sixth.
They weren't protesting on October seventh when Hamas attacked Israel.
They're only around to basically cause harm to Israel and
to America. You know, it kind of bothers me that
(20:10):
it's gotten to where the protesters are seen as just
about Israel. They're really not. They're about Western civilization, They're
about the United States. If you remember back to last
year where the frat boys became the heroes of the day,
they weren't protecting the Israeli flag. They were protecting the
American flag that the protesters were trying to destroy. So,
(20:30):
you know, I get that Israel is a hot issue,
and obviously a lot of things com from the Middle East,
but really we're protecting Western civilization and these lunatics want
to bring it down.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Now, what do you think about the left ralling around this?
Mahmoud Khalil guy, I mean Secretary Rubio, We played him
earlier in the show, talking about how it's pretty straightforward.
And by the way, I didn't know that the I
didn't know that the Secretary of State, or rather that
the federal government had the authority already. You just say,
you know, even if you're on a green card, right
(21:03):
visa that I would have guessed, Yeah, you can probably
just be told go home.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You're here on a visa.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But even with a green card, it's probationary status until
you actually get citizenship, so you can still be told
like audios, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That's exactly it. And if you go to any other
country and you try to foment dissent and start protests,
you're going to face the same challenges, especially if you're
if you're a part of your cause is to bring
down the country that you would like to be a
part of. A lot of it is when you come
to the US, you get permissioned by the US government,
You're not allowed to do certain things, and you have
(21:38):
to behave yourself. If you get, you know, in trouble
with the law in a way that an American citizen
might even have a small misdemeanor, you could be kicked
out for that, and a lot of things that you
need to kind of live up to when you're trying
to become a citizen of America. And there are some challenges,
and there are definitely some roadblocks that are meant to
(21:58):
be there so that we get kind of the best people.
And what's happened in the last decade is it was
completely forgotten about how the whole process works. There used
to be a process in place. Of course, during the
Biden administration, people just came in. They could do whatever
they want, They didn't have to follow any of the
rules or the laws. I think what we're seeing now
is an end to that kind of attitude that no,
(22:21):
this is not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch.
He got elected under the idea of getting rid of
a lot of the policies that have really slowed our
country down, and this is one of those that we
can't have people coming from around the world to tell
us that they don't want us to exist, that they
that they want to bring down our country and us
(22:43):
to smile and accept it. That's just not the way
it's supposed to go. And I'm glad that the Donald
Trump administration is standing up for that concept.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Why are they rally I mean, obviously, I know Mafu
Khalil's the guy that they've chosen to make an example of,
I think so. But for the Democrats right now, given
their party's fortunes to go to the mat over a
guy who has openly said that he wants to bring
about the end of Western civilization, who has been a
(23:12):
part of I always feel that it's frustrating to call
them protests because they were really kind of intimidation gatherings
at Columbia University, right, I mean, it goes when you're
breaking laws as part of the movement. It's just like
with BLM did right, there were some protests, but there
were people being punched in the face and buildings being
burned down too.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
He was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Don't democrats realize, like the center of the country that
they need to try to win back or fool into
voting for them, isn't going to.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Look favorably on this. Why Mahmoud Khalil, why now?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It's so odd because they seem so out of touch
with the country. They're just kind of grappling around for
anything to oppose the Trump administration. I actually see it
really similarly like what happened today at Trump Tower, very
similar to what's going on around the country with the
Tesla dealership. These people are we're feeding Testa dealerships. You know,
one was firebombed, these violent attacks on Testa dealerships. That
(24:09):
because Elon Musk dares work in the Trump administration, he
dares have a different opinion than they do, and it's
considered sort of acceptable. Like I think again, we've gotten
to a place where these kinds of riotous behavior is allowed,
or at least not prosecuted to the full six kund
of the law, and I think the change is here,
(24:30):
and I hope that they do punish these people. I
hope that they, you know, I do arrest them and
anybody who caused any problems in Tesla dealerships or the
Trump Tower is actually held accountable. What do democrats want.
I think that they want to continue the system that
we've had for the last few years. I think they
want their friends to not be held accountable. I want
(24:53):
that they want their friends to be able to do
whatever they want and for us all to say, well,
we can't do anything about it. I think that they're
going to run and the wall of the Trump administration.
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(25:23):
And Carol, you mentioned the Elon thing. I know, I
think it's hard for us to get in the mindset
of the other side sometimes because I truly believe that
some of the activists left are like there's a part
of them, or a lot of them are deranged. I mean,
they're separate from reality. And the ones who truly believe
that climate change is an existential threat. On the one hand,
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they say this all the time, and Barack Obama said
that when he was president. This is the term existential
threats what they're supposed to say.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And yet they hate Elon and they don't see the
problem with that. And I just think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Either they don't believe it's an existential threat and that's
just all hot air, or they just care more about
hating Trump and his people than saving the planet by
their own.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Logic, right, Well, I always said that about them, which is,
you know, when you have Leonardo DiCaprio alone on a yacht,
does he really care about climate change? When you have
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and all these people who
say that they care about climate change flying around in
their private plane, do they really care about climate change?
If I was concerned about climate change, I'd be living
(26:26):
very differently than their living. I wouldn't be buying like
Barack Obama did a house right on the ocean. I
think I would have some concerns about that. So I
don't think that they believe any of that. I think
that they want to reorientate our economy so that and
they're using climate change as the excuse to do that.
But I don't believe that they really think that climate
is going to cause the kinds of problems that they
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predict for the rest of us. Obviously, al Gore had
some predictions, you know, back in the early two thousands.
None of them came true, and so no, they used
climate change as the hammer to beat the rest to
us live.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, it just strikes me that the whole thing is
so it's so disingenuous and has been all and the
leaders of that movement, I mean, Al Gore, the whole
thing has just been Greta Thunberg people. I will never
forget CNN breathlessly reporting on every word about a sixteen
year old girl talking about how we have to change
trillions of dollars of economic output because her future has
(27:25):
been stolen from him. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I remember when Greta Thumburg, My kids had come home
from school in Brooklyn and I say, what did you
learn today, and they'd say, we learned about Greta Thumberg
every day for like months and months and months. She
was the entire science curriculum. So it is really part
of being part of the team. Is just supposed to
say the right word, just supposed to worship the right people.
And the left has really got to realize that people
(27:49):
are onto them and they don't like their team anymore,
that the things that they say come across as crazy
to the rest of the country. And I don't know
if they reverse themselves time soon or they just keep
going and hope for the best.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Carol, one more for you here. I'm just have you
heard the latest from Trump on Canada?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah? Fuck, I don't want Canada to be our fifty
first date. I don't like Canada.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So help me out because I look with the tariff
stuff and with rush of U Crane, I see so
many things where or I I know what Trump's doing.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Trump's doing the Trump thing. I think on Canada he's
doing a version.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Of the Trump thing. But with the fifty first state thing,
is he just straight trolling them? What do you make
of this? Because you're very reasonable about all things Trump.
You know, you don't get all hysterical. But I sit here,
I'm like, he's really he's really staying on this. I'm
a little surprised, right.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
You know, I really don't know because I thought he
was trolling and then it doesn't seem like he's trolling anymore.
Back in December, I tweeted or whatever it's called on
XP I posted, it's important to stand up to Donald
Trump and say absolutely no, we don't want Canada be
our fifty first date. And I was joking, and all
the responses were, Trump is joking. You got to stop
(29:02):
taking him so seriously. But you know, now we're in
March and he's still saying it. So I don't know.
I mean, I know they have good mapel syrup, but
I just I don't want to end sentences a and
I don't want to apologize for everything. And I don't
want Canadians to be American. That's it. Leave Canadians as
they are.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I feel the same way about it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Greenland, I'm a little greedier about because not a lot
of people, not enough votes to mess with us. You know,
there's like fifty thousand people there and a lot of
land and a lot of resources and strategic value.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, I think.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Shoven Greenland around a little bit to get them to
see reality. That one I'm cool with. But Canada, this
place just elected Justin Trudeau. I mean, I think Justin
Trudeau is arguably the worst leader of any democratic country
in the entire I mean, maybe the world, I don't know,
certainly the entire Western world.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, I'm very much not a fan. And it definitely
concerns me that this this joke has gone on a
little too long. Yeah, I don't mind trolling Canada if
that's what we're doing here. But if if there's really
any attempt to have them join us, I say, no,
think you.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Eight, Yeah, I don't think there will be. So I
do think. I just think Trump really enjoys this.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think he really he's just like having a great
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Close and upshot Today on Clay and Buck, I'm going
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having a great time with the family. He checks in,
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hi to all of you.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
On his behalf. He's having a great time though out in.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I'm just realizing is Steamboat Springs is Colorado, right right right?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, I've been to Colorado once, but I knew that. So, yeah,
he's having a great time out there. If you see him,
definitely go up and argue with him about sports.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He loves that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And yeah, so we'll get to we have some great
guests lined up for you tomorrow. The White House Deputy
Press Secretary. You know, we've known Caroline Levitt here on
the show. She's been a friend of the show for years.
She's the press secretary. We're gonna have her deputy on
talk to us about some of the executive orders that
are gonna be coming down next week, some big stuff happening,
and also what's happened this week, and we're looking to
(32:40):
get some other guests lined up for you as well.
And this week and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be
training up in North Carolina doing some tactical training.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well I'll tell you more about it when I come
back from it, but I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And we have some wonderful talkback, some emails, good stuff
like that. Low and in we have eet speaking of
Colorado out of Denver listener on Freedom ninety three seven?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What have you got for us? Play it?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But beaver is the animal that is most associated with Canada,
so they would be poking to beaver if you're messing
with Canada.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Whoa ah. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So yes, I did not know that beaver was the
national animal of Canada. I will say that is interesting
data point that had eluded me. But it makes sense.
The beaver used to be an industry. Unto himself, the
unassuming little, the rotund rodent of the beaver was a
(33:43):
huge industry because of the obsession, if memory serves from
my history, with using their pelts.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Particularly for hats. Am I right on this one team.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think that's the fur trade was a big deal
in Canada and particularly in the again the early days
when it was a French French colony first, the fur trade,
the French trappers, all that stuff, and there were fights,
you know, sometimes pretty intense ones over with the with
the native population, the Indians, over who had trapping rights,
(34:18):
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So, yeah, beavers were a big deal. The fur trade.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It is Actually that was the one scene in the
movie The Revenant that I think was really well done
and is historically is based on a on a true
incident historically, was when the fur trappers. It's the Leonardo
DiCaprio movie. I'm sure you've seen it. There's a very
intense sequence with a bear. But the opening sequence of
(34:46):
the movie is really well done and pretty haunting, and
it's about a local Indian tribe. I forget which one.
You know, there's a lot of them that just decided,
you know, we don't like these these the the euro
European descent fur trapper guys. So we're just gonna go
in there and take them out. And it actually happened.
(35:07):
This was a real thing in the nineteenth century. So
if a team, if you remember to do a quick
I can't do it because sometimes when clays you're right,
he'll be saying something and I can do the real
time check. But if I do that, you'll hear me
typing and thinking out loud. Tell me when that was
the incident, that is in the beginning of the Revenant
and what the tribe was. But that was a real
(35:27):
thing because the fur trade was a big deal because
we didn't have all these different synthetic fibers and everything else,
and so that was important. So we learned that the
beaver is the national animal. Another Denver talk Pack ninety
three seven getting a lot of listeners. Thank you listener,
Jason d d hit it.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's
why they're going to continue with the shutdown. And then
they're gonna say that it's some Republicans fault since they
own all branches of government, they know they have the
dumbest constituents and they do have the dumbest constituents. And
I guarantee you after the shutdown, all the morons on
(36:06):
MSNBC are gonna still say it's for Republicans fault.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I think our listener Jason thinks the Democrats have the
dumbest constituent.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think he's made that clear.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes, they will try to claim that, Jason, I don't
know if they will be successful though in terms of
overall public opinion. By the way, the opening scene of
the Revenant, the attacking Native American tribe is the Arikara.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Interesting. Yeah, see that that was one of the more.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Obscure ones, not like the Sue, the Iroquois, the Cherokee,
the ones that we all know, you know, the Pawnee, etc.
The Arikara. There you go, good scene. Back with you tomorrow,
talk to you then,
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now,
let's talk about the Russia Ukraine War and what is
going on here, because there is some reporting about a
ceasefire we need to dive into. And the ceasfire hasn't
been agreed to you yet, but there's movement in that direction.
(00:24):
There is movement in the direction of figuring out what exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Is happening here.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know what I was going to break down, break
it down for you. But the Commander in Chief himself,
Donald Trump, just spoke about this moments ago. And here
he is on This is from the guys from the
Oval right here he is cut twenty yeah, from the
Oval Office, cut twenty four an update from Donald Trump
himself on Russia Ukraine moments ago.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Play it well, I would like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
To see a ceasefire from Russia. And we have, you know,
not been working in the dark. We've been discussing with
Ukraine land, pieces of land that would be kept and
lost and all of the other elements of a final agreement.
There is a power plant involved, you know, a very
big power plant involved. Who's going to get the power
plant and who's going to get this and that, and
(01:11):
so you know, it's not an easy process. Phase one
is the ceasefire. A lot of the individual subjects have
been discussed. You know, we've been discussing concepts of land
because you don't want to waste time with a ceasefire
if it's not going to mean anything. So we say, look,
this is what you can get, this is what you
can't get. They discuss NATO and being in NATO, and
(01:33):
everybody knows what the answer to that is. They've known
that answer for forty years, in all fairness, so a
lot of the details of a final agreement have actually
been discussed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now we're going to see whether or.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Not Russia is there, and if they're not, it'll be
a very disappointing moment for the world.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now it's in Russia's court.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
As I told you, the way that this is being
reported on is a fascinating look into how the Democrat
propaganda media functions. And so I want I want to
focus in on that because here's where we are. A
war started on Biden's watch that he and the New
York Times and others kept saying Ukraine's gonna win. Ukraine
(02:18):
held them off. The Ukraine's gonna win, and that's not happening,
and they didn't do anything to get a ceasefire. They
didn't do anything to get a negotiation going for three
years and now Donald Trump hasn't even been office two months,
coming up on two months, and you have Ukraine in
principle agreeing to a ceasefire subject to conditions. Fine, look,
(02:39):
you heard Trump just now say it. There's gonna it's
gonna be a process. It's not easy, but we're working
toward it. We're working toward an end to this. And
now Russia has come out and said, Putin has come
out and said, Okay, yeah, let's let's talk about this
ceasefire thing. There are conditions as well, but I'm to
(03:00):
have this discussion or I think that it's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Time that we have this talk.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
And he voiced what the New York Times is calling
preliminary support for the thirty day ceasefire proposal. I went
through the New York Times explanation of what's in this,
and it's just astonishing how much they try to shade
the thinking here of anybody who reads this such that
(03:26):
somehow this is Trump just doing Putin.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A huge favor.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is a big favor for Putin, that this is
what Putin wants he wants the ceasefire. Trump wants the
conflict to stop, and Ukraine should want the conflict to
stop as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
People are dying.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
In large numbers every month in this thing, and we
are funding it. I think we're giving them, you know,
like a billion dollars a day or something. I mean,
we are giving them a whole bunch of money. And
we don't want to keep doing that either. So this
isn't about who do you like more, Ukraine or Russia.
This isn't about who's the good guy, who's the bad guy,
who's right and who's wrong. It's how do we end
(04:05):
this thing and how you end to conflict go back
to the Versailles treaty. How you end to conflict is
important too, so that you can get stability going forward
and you don't have mass death. The avoidance of mass
death would be something that I would hope that Democrats
could agree with Trump and the Republicans on here. But
no Slava Ukraini or whatever it is that they say,
(04:29):
you know, fight Ukrainian should fight to the very last
drop of Ukrainian men Ukrainian's blood. According to Democrats in
this country, who aren't doing any fighting and don't really
know what the hell's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Anyway, that's the situation.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And when you read the New York Times update on this,
they're so negative about the prospects here for any kind
of success. Meanwhile, at any point when Biden was president,
did you hear talk of a ceasefire negotiation or a
ceasefire at all? Was there any point at which that, No,
it didn't. So Trump hasn't even been office for two months,
(05:06):
and here we are at a new phase of this
conflict with at least the prospect of ending this thing.
And people got so upset. The Democrats got so upset
about what happened to Zelenski in the Oval office, meanwhiles,
Lenzi's comeback said, look, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You know we neither side is gonna be happy here
in this negotiation. Neither side is gonna get everything that
they want. And this is what's so interesting to me.
The New York Times and others in their report and
completely leave off that Trump is saying, look, Russia, you're
gonna get You're gonna get hit with a whole new
(05:45):
level of financial pain here, specifically with regard to EU
purchases EU ability to buy oil and gas from Russia
from the banking system.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Which has still been going on.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
By the way, Yeah, I mean, EU care so much
about Ukraine, but they still got to buy a Russian
oil and gas. It's been going down, but they're still
doing it. That there will be financial consequences for Russia
that hurt. A huge part of Russian GDP, a huge
part of the Russian economy has been going to funding
this war off theairs.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It is painful for them too.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I know that we have been led to believe that
Putin is like Stalin Part two, and that he wants
to run rough shot over all of Europe and he
doesn't care how many people die, and he's not a
rational actor and all this stuff. No, I think actually
he would rather just get what he wants out of
this and be able to stop spending so much money
(06:41):
and so many lives on this conflict. And he doesn't
want his country to be feeling economic, true economic pain,
the kind of the kind that Trump is laying out
for him. So this is important, This is a milestone.
This is moving in the right direction. Trump isn't saying
(07:01):
it's a done deal. No one's saying it's a done deal.
But all of the people that are currently reporting on
this who voted for Kamala, which tells you everything you
need to know about their judgment, are acting like.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, you know, this is all going to be a
sellout or whatever. I thought Democrats didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Like war, Well, apparently they like wars that other people fight,
including other Americans. But you know, Democrats actually are not
an anti war party. That's when you really think about
it and you go back, you look at the history.
You know, they just the thing for Democrats is they
want other people fighting wars that they can feel good
about themselves. And is it an the American best interest
(07:38):
to fight the war. That doesn't matter. Democrats only want
to fight wars that make them feel good about themselves
at cocktail parties. That's really what their standard is. And
whether it helps America or not, whether we're losing Americans
or not, that's a secondary consideration. So the fact that
we're getting to a point where even having a discussion
about a cease fire is or should be seen as
(08:00):
very encouraging. You know, we don't sell you remember my mantra,
you don't celebrate early. You never celebrate early there's no
celebration here but progress.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We can be cold and calculating about this and still say, hey, okay,
this is moving in the right direction. And Trump is
saying that there's leverage to be used against Russia here too.
So for all the always Putin's poppet and everything else,
he's saying, Look, does anybody believe for one second that
if Putin is totally unreasonable and blows up these negotiations,
that Trump is going to hesitate to use the tools
(08:31):
at his disposal to turn up the heat on lad.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Of course he will. Of course he will for no
other reason.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Then you don't you don't make Trump, You don't try
to make Trump look silly on the world stage when
he's really dedicated to something. Putin or no, Putin, doesn't
matter who it is. But see, this is what the
Democrats fundamentally refuse to understand about Trump, which is who
he really is and what he is all about. They
just they still don't get I don't know if they
(09:00):
can understand Trump or they won't understand Trump, but the
notion of him as anyone's puppet, as I've been saying
to you, is laughable for anyone who has spent five
minutes with the guy. Really, I mean I've spent a
lot more time with them than that. But anybody who's
talked to Trump for about any serious subject taking orders
from Putin it's as stupid as people saying that that
Elon Musk is Putin's puppet too. Yeah, the guy worth
(09:24):
three hundred billion dollars is going to get ordered around
by Vladimir Putin's so because of financial interest. It's so
dumb that you don't even want to waste brain cells
on it. So I really hope that this is a
breakthrough moment. I think it could be the beginning of
a major breakthrough in this. And here's the truth. I
(09:45):
want the killing to stop, and I don't want to
ever have to think about Ukraine again, really, you know,
and that doesn't make me a bad person. I want
the killing to stop. I want the Ukrainians and I
want the Russians who have been conscripted and are being
thrown to this meat grinder. I want them to go
home to their families. I want the them, you know,
eating chicken nuggets and watching sitcoms and thinking about their
few you know, this whole thing is a waste that's
(10:08):
going on.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I want it to stop. We all should want it
to stop.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And then we don't have to think about it anymore.
I don't want this to be our problem. This shouldn't
be our problem. We've got our own things to worry
about over here, America first, right, So this is all
in line with where we want this to go. And
I think that there's very good reasons for optimism. It's
(10:32):
not a done deal, but I think that there are
good reasons for optimism. Trump also gave an update on Canada.
Less serious than the Russia Ukraine war, obviously, but this
just happened. I want to play this for you. This
is from the Oval Office moments ago. Cut twenty five
hit it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know, the United States can't subsidize a country for
two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need their cars,
we don't need their energy, we don't need their lumber,
we don't need anything that they that they get. We
do it because we want to be helpful, but it
comes to point when you just can't do that. You
have to run your own country. And to be honest
(11:08):
with you, Canada only works as a state. It doesn't
We don't need anything they have as a state. It
would be one of the great states anyway, This would
be the most incredible country visually. If you look at
a map, they drew an artificial line right through it
between Canada and the US, just a straight artificial line.
Somebody did it a long time ago, many many decades ago.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And makes no sense. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Trump is really leaning into this Canada fifty first state thing.
I believe that it's negotiation and pressure from Trump, and
also he likes to poke at the Canadian leadership a
little bit, but on the teriff issue and on what
is financially meaningful in all of this, I think Trump
has a pretty straightforward, pretty straightforward approach. No more free
(11:58):
rides on the American the back of the American people,
No more subsidizing your domestic industry in Canada at the
expense of our consumers unless you want to have the
same thing done to.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
You reciprocal tariffs.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And I'm still waiting for someone to explain me why
that's unfair or a bad idea. Right to me, it
strikes me that that should be both fair play and
smart play. And if something is fair play and smart play,
why wouldn't you do it? Why wouldn't you do it
unless there's something Unless there's something I'm missing, we'll get
(12:33):
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Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right, welcome back in, and we were just discussing
some of Trump's latest updates from the Oval Office. The
President just spoke moments ago diving into the Russia Ukraine situation.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It's really hard to.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Read the Democrat press on this whole situation and not
feel like they are rooting for Trump to fail to
achieve a cease fire, even though that means a lot
of people are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Am I missing something? Even though a lot of a
lot more Russians.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Than Ukrainians are gonna die if there isn't a ceasefire
that's durable and that gets to an end of this conflict.
I think that the New York Times is and others
are rooting for failure on this one. I honestly believe that,
and I think when you read their reportage on it,
that is what you come away with. But let's go
(14:47):
to another issue that Trump spoke on. The Canada stuff
is interesting. I don't really know exactly what Trump's going
for on that one. I think it's I think it's
posturing and negotiating. I get that, but he is really
he is really uh poking poking the wolverine, if you will,
or I'm trying to think of what would be a poking?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Do we think of moose?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I always think of Maine, not Canada, Like, what's the
what is the animal most associated with Canada?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
As I say, poking the bear? Is it bears? We
got bears here?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, we got a lot of the same things that
Canada does. Pretty similar places here we have Trump, though,
weigh in on the trans issue in a way that
well only Trump, only Trump would play twenty six.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I saw it this morning with one of them is
pretty well known. One is arguing fighting like crazy over
men being able to play in women's sports. I said, yeah,
I thought that was tried. I thought that was about
a ninety five I think it's a ninety five percent issue.
But in a way I want him to keep doing
it because I don't think they can win a race
I and I tell the Republicans, I said, don't bring
that subject up because there's no election right now, but
(15:54):
about a week before the election, bring it up because
you can't lose and everything's transgender. This trends that you know.
It's they have bad politics, but one thing, they stick together.
I wish uh and the Republicans stick together mostly, but
we have a couple that are grand standards and they
always have grand standers in life. But the Democrats they
(16:14):
don't seem they have grand standers, but when it comes
to a vote, they do stick together.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So everything is transition trans that when it comes to Democrats. True,
they simultaneously push the issue everywhere and then pretend they
don't care about the issue anywhere when we say no.
That's the game that they play with trans issues, with
other things too, but specifically on this one, it's they
demand that we obey them, and when we say no,
(16:42):
they say, why are we even talking about this? Why
are you bringing this up? Okay, crazy, that's what they're doing.
I didn't get to this before I mentioned the top
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not going to run anymore because he's going to focus
on running for president in twenty two twenty eight is
drum roll the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, Pete
(17:06):
Bluter Judge, Pete Booter Judge lining up to be the
leader of the Democrat Party for twenty twenty eight. I
will just tell you, I think that this is great
for the Democrats. Big fan of this idea. Hope that
they put tons of money behind Pete, tons of time,
you know, trying to build.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Him up in the media.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah, I would love to see a Buddha Judge vance showdown.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think that would be excellent. So I'm just gonna
put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I don't want to give them too many tips, too
much advice for the Democrats, but yeah, Pete Bouter Judge,
go with that one.
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us now. She is the host of the Carol Markowitz
Show on the Clay Unbuck podcast now work, which we
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Speaker 2 (19:07):
They're doing fantastically, Carol, great to have you.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
On, Hi Buck, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
So let's talk about the first off, did you see
the loons running into Trump Tower? And they've been they've
been rounded up in flex, scuffed and everything else. But
at a lot of Jews for Palestine signs in there's
what's this all about?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, I'll tell you that the Jewish voices for peace
are neither Jews nor for piece. So don't don't take
their word for it. A lot of them just use
the label to say that, oh we we're not like
the other Jews who actually support the existence of Israel.
And they might have, like some relative in the distant past,
(19:49):
that it was Jewish and so they claim that, or
sometimes they don't even have that. But they're also not
for peace because they there was peace on October sixth.
They weren't protesting on October seventh when Hamas attacked Israel.
They're only around to basically cause harm to Israel and
to America. You know, it kind of bothers me that
(20:10):
it's gotten to where the protesters are seen as just
about Israel. They're really not. They're about Western civilization, They're
about the United States. If you remember back to last
year where the frat boys became the heroes of the day,
they weren't protecting the Israeli flag. They were protecting the
American flag that the protesters were trying to destroy. So,
(20:30):
you know, I get that Israel is a hot issue,
and obviously a lot of things com from the Middle East,
but really we're protecting Western civilization and these lunatics want
to bring it down.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Now, what do you think about the left ralling around this?
Mahmoud Khalil guy, I mean Secretary Rubio, We played him
earlier in the show, talking about how it's pretty straightforward.
And by the way, I didn't know that the I
didn't know that the Secretary of State, or rather that
the federal government had the authority already. You just say,
you know, even if you're on a green card, right
(21:03):
visa that I would have guessed, Yeah, you can probably
just be told go home.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You're here on a visa.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
But even with a green card, it's probationary status until
you actually get citizenship, so you can still be told
like audios, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That's exactly it. And if you go to any other
country and you try to foment dissent and start protests,
you're going to face the same challenges, especially if you're
if you're a part of your cause is to bring
down the country that you would like to be a
part of. A lot of it is when you come
to the US, you get permissioned by the US government,
You're not allowed to do certain things, and you have
(21:38):
to behave yourself. If you get, you know, in trouble
with the law in a way that an American citizen
might even have a small misdemeanor, you could be kicked
out for that, and a lot of things that you
need to kind of live up to when you're trying
to become a citizen of America. And there are some challenges,
and there are definitely some roadblocks that are meant to
(21:58):
be there so that we get kind of the best people.
And what's happened in the last decade is it was
completely forgotten about how the whole process works. There used
to be a process in place. Of course, during the
Biden administration, people just came in. They could do whatever
they want, They didn't have to follow any of the
rules or the laws. I think what we're seeing now
is an end to that kind of attitude that no,
(22:21):
this is not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch.
He got elected under the idea of getting rid of
a lot of the policies that have really slowed our
country down, and this is one of those that we
can't have people coming from around the world to tell
us that they don't want us to exist, that they
that they want to bring down our country and us
(22:43):
to smile and accept it. That's just not the way
it's supposed to go. And I'm glad that the Donald
Trump administration is standing up for that concept.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Why are they rally I mean, obviously, I know Mafu
Khalil's the guy that they've chosen to make an example of,
I think so. But for the Democrats right now, given
their party's fortunes to go to the mat over a
guy who has openly said that he wants to bring
about the end of Western civilization, who has been a
(23:12):
part of I always feel that it's frustrating to call
them protests because they were really kind of intimidation gatherings
at Columbia University, right, I mean, it goes when you're
breaking laws as part of the movement. It's just like
with BLM did right, there were some protests, but there
were people being punched in the face and buildings being
burned down too.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
He was a part of that.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Don't democrats realize, like the center of the country that
they need to try to win back or fool into
voting for them, isn't going to.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Look favorably on this. Why Mahmoud Khalil, why now?
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It's so odd because they seem so out of touch
with the country. They're just kind of grappling around for
anything to oppose the Trump administration. I actually see it
really similarly like what happened today at Trump Tower, very
similar to what's going on around the country with the
Tesla dealership. These people are we're feeding Testa dealerships. You know,
one was firebombed, these violent attacks on Testa dealerships. That
(24:09):
because Elon Musk dares work in the Trump administration, he
dares have a different opinion than they do, and it's
considered sort of acceptable. Like I think again, we've gotten
to a place where these kinds of riotous behavior is allowed,
or at least not prosecuted to the full six kund
of the law, and I think the change is here,
(24:30):
and I hope that they do punish these people. I
hope that they, you know, I do arrest them and
anybody who caused any problems in Tesla dealerships or the
Trump Tower is actually held accountable. What do democrats want.
I think that they want to continue the system that
we've had for the last few years. I think they
want their friends to not be held accountable. I want
(24:53):
that they want their friends to be able to do
whatever they want and for us all to say, well,
we can't do anything about it. I think that they're
going to run and the wall of the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
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(25:23):
And Carol, you mentioned the Elon thing. I know, I
think it's hard for us to get in the mindset
of the other side sometimes because I truly believe that
some of the activists left are like there's a part
of them, or a lot of them are deranged. I mean,
they're separate from reality. And the ones who truly believe
that climate change is an existential threat. On the one hand,
(25:44):
they say this all the time, and Barack Obama said
that when he was president. This is the term existential
threats what they're supposed to say.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And yet they hate Elon and they don't see the
problem with that. And I just think it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Either they don't believe it's an existential threat and that's
just all hot air, or they just care more about
hating Trump and his people than saving the planet by
their own.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Logic, right, Well, I always said that about them, which is,
you know, when you have Leonardo DiCaprio alone on a yacht,
does he really care about climate change? When you have
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and all these people who
say that they care about climate change flying around in
their private plane, do they really care about climate change?
If I was concerned about climate change, I'd be living
(26:26):
very differently than their living. I wouldn't be buying like
Barack Obama did a house right on the ocean. I
think I would have some concerns about that. So I
don't think that they believe any of that. I think
that they want to reorientate our economy so that and
they're using climate change as the excuse to do that.
But I don't believe that they really think that climate
is going to cause the kinds of problems that they
(26:48):
predict for the rest of us. Obviously, al Gore had
some predictions, you know, back in the early two thousands.
None of them came true, and so no, they used
climate change as the hammer to beat the rest to
us live.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, it just strikes me that the whole thing is
so it's so disingenuous and has been all and the
leaders of that movement, I mean, Al Gore, the whole
thing has just been Greta Thunberg people. I will never
forget CNN breathlessly reporting on every word about a sixteen
year old girl talking about how we have to change
trillions of dollars of economic output because her future has
(27:25):
been stolen from him. Right.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I remember when Greta Thumburg, My kids had come home
from school in Brooklyn and I say, what did you
learn today, and they'd say, we learned about Greta Thumberg
every day for like months and months and months. She
was the entire science curriculum. So it is really part
of being part of the team. Is just supposed to
say the right word, just supposed to worship the right people.
And the left has really got to realize that people
(27:49):
are onto them and they don't like their team anymore,
that the things that they say come across as crazy
to the rest of the country. And I don't know
if they reverse themselves time soon or they just keep
going and hope for the best.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Carol, one more for you here. I'm just have you
heard the latest from Trump on Canada?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah? Fuck, I don't want Canada to be our fifty
first date. I don't like Canada.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So help me out because I look with the tariff
stuff and with rush of U Crane, I see so
many things where or I I know what Trump's doing.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Trump's doing the Trump thing. I think on Canada he's
doing a version.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Of the Trump thing. But with the fifty first state thing,
is he just straight trolling them? What do you make
of this? Because you're very reasonable about all things Trump.
You know, you don't get all hysterical. But I sit here,
I'm like, he's really he's really staying on this. I'm
a little surprised, right.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
You know, I really don't know because I thought he
was trolling and then it doesn't seem like he's trolling anymore.
Back in December, I tweeted or whatever it's called on
XP I posted, it's important to stand up to Donald
Trump and say absolutely no, we don't want Canada be
our fifty first date. And I was joking, and all
the responses were, Trump is joking. You got to stop
(29:02):
taking him so seriously. But you know, now we're in
March and he's still saying it. So I don't know.
I mean, I know they have good mapel syrup, but
I just I don't want to end sentences a and
I don't want to apologize for everything. And I don't
want Canadians to be American. That's it. Leave Canadians as
they are.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I feel the same way about it.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Greenland, I'm a little greedier about because not a lot
of people, not enough votes to mess with us. You know,
there's like fifty thousand people there and a lot of
land and a lot of resources and strategic value.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know, I think.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Shoven Greenland around a little bit to get them to
see reality. That one I'm cool with. But Canada, this
place just elected Justin Trudeau. I mean, I think Justin
Trudeau is arguably the worst leader of any democratic country
in the entire I mean, maybe the world, I don't know,
certainly the entire Western world.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, I'm very much not a fan. And it definitely
concerns me that this this joke has gone on a
little too long. Yeah, I don't mind trolling Canada if
that's what we're doing here. But if if there's really
any attempt to have them join us, I say, no,
think you.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Eight, Yeah, I don't think there will be. So I
do think. I just think Trump really enjoys this.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think he really he's just like having a great
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Close and upshot Today on Clay and Buck, I'm going
to remind you that just going to be me tomorrow,
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having a great time with the family. He checks in,
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Speaker 2 (31:57):
On his behalf. He's having a great time though out in.
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I'm just realizing is Steamboat Springs is Colorado, right right right?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I knew that.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
You know, I've been to Colorado once, but I knew that. So, yeah,
he's having a great time out there. If you see him,
definitely go up and argue with him about sports.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He loves that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And yeah, so we'll get to we have some great
guests lined up for you tomorrow. The White House Deputy
Press Secretary. You know, we've known Caroline Levitt here on
the show. She's been a friend of the show for years.
She's the press secretary. We're gonna have her deputy on
talk to us about some of the executive orders that
are gonna be coming down next week, some big stuff happening,
and also what's happened this week, and we're looking to
(32:40):
get some other guests lined up for you as well.
And this week and I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be
training up in North Carolina doing some tactical training.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well I'll tell you more about it when I come
back from it, but I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
And we have some wonderful talkback, some emails, good stuff
like that. Low and in we have eet speaking of
Colorado out of Denver listener on Freedom ninety three seven?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
What have you got for us? Play it?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
But beaver is the animal that is most associated with Canada,
so they would be poking to beaver if you're messing
with Canada.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Whoa ah. Interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So yes, I did not know that beaver was the
national animal of Canada. I will say that is interesting
data point that had eluded me. But it makes sense.
The beaver used to be an industry. Unto himself, the
unassuming little, the rotund rodent of the beaver was a
(33:43):
huge industry because of the obsession, if memory serves from
my history, with using their pelts.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Particularly for hats. Am I right on this one team.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I think that's the fur trade was a big deal
in Canada and particularly in the again the early days
when it was a French French colony first, the fur trade,
the French trappers, all that stuff, and there were fights,
you know, sometimes pretty intense ones over with the with
the native population, the Indians, over who had trapping rights,
(34:18):
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So, yeah, beavers were a big deal. The fur trade.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
It is Actually that was the one scene in the
movie The Revenant that I think was really well done
and is historically is based on a on a true
incident historically, was when the fur trappers. It's the Leonardo
DiCaprio movie. I'm sure you've seen it. There's a very
intense sequence with a bear. But the opening sequence of
(34:46):
the movie is really well done and pretty haunting, and
it's about a local Indian tribe. I forget which one.
You know, there's a lot of them that just decided,
you know, we don't like these these the the euro
European descent fur trapper guys. So we're just gonna go
in there and take them out. And it actually happened.
(35:07):
This was a real thing in the nineteenth century. So
if a team, if you remember to do a quick
I can't do it because sometimes when clays you're right,
he'll be saying something and I can do the real
time check. But if I do that, you'll hear me
typing and thinking out loud. Tell me when that was
the incident, that is in the beginning of the Revenant
and what the tribe was. But that was a real
(35:27):
thing because the fur trade was a big deal because
we didn't have all these different synthetic fibers and everything else,
and so that was important. So we learned that the
beaver is the national animal. Another Denver talk Pack ninety
three seven getting a lot of listeners. Thank you listener,
Jason d d hit it.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Democrats have the dumbest constituents and they know this. That's
why they're going to continue with the shutdown. And then
they're gonna say that it's some Republicans fault since they
own all branches of government, they know they have the
dumbest constituents and they do have the dumbest constituents. And
I guarantee you after the shutdown, all the morons on
(36:06):
MSNBC are gonna still say it's for Republicans fault.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I think our listener Jason thinks the Democrats have the
dumbest constituent.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think he's made that clear.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes, they will try to claim that, Jason, I don't
know if they will be successful though in terms of
overall public opinion. By the way, the opening scene of
the Revenant, the attacking Native American tribe is the Arikara.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Interesting. Yeah, see that that was one of the more.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Obscure ones, not like the Sue, the Iroquois, the Cherokee,
the ones that we all know, you know, the Pawnee, etc.
The Arikara. There you go, good scene. Back with you tomorrow,
talk to you then,
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