June 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosted solo by Buck Sexton, delivers a powerful and unfiltered analysis of the day’s most pressing political issues. Buck opens the hour with breaking news on immigration enforcement under President Donald Trump, highlighting a record-setting day for ICE and CBP with 2,200 illegal immigrant arrests. This surge in enforcement is framed as a critical step toward restoring border security. Buck then critiques a controversial ruling by a Biden-appointed federal judge in Colorado, who blocked the deportation of the family of a convicted terrorist. He warns of the dangers of judicial overreach and the erosion of executive authority, especially when lower court judges act as de facto policymakers. A major segment of the hour focuses on the unraveling credibility of former Biden administration allies. Buck calls out CNN’s Jake Tapper for attempting to rebrand himself after years of defending the Biden presidency, accusing him of opportunism. He also dissects the political pivot of former White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, who recently announced her departure from the Democratic Party. Buck argues that her appointment was driven by DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) priorities rather than qualifications, and he critiques the media’s double standards in covering her tenure. The hour also covers a landmark Supreme Court decision that reaffirms the illegality of reverse discrimination. Buck explains how the unanimous ruling, authored by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, confirms that all Americans—regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation—are equally protected under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. He frames this as a major blow to DEI policies and a win for merit-based hiring. In a lighter but still politically charged segment, Buck addresses a growing rift between President Trump and Elon Musk. He analyzes their recent public spat over government spending and policy disagreements, while emphasizing Trump’s history of reconciliation and strategic alliances. Buck suggests that despite current tensions, the relationship may recover, as both figures remain central to the MAGA movement. Additional highlights include listener talkbacks, a discussion on sourcing affordable American-grown coffee, and a heartfelt appeal to support conservative businesses and show sponsors. Buck closes the hour with reflections on loyalty, leadership, and the importance of standing firm on principles in the face of political and cultural pressure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in everybody. Third hour of play and Buck
gets going right now and much to talk about more
on the big beautiful Bill from back and forth on
that one. I have a Supreme Court decision that I
think is very interesting that I will break down for you.
(00:20):
We just spoke to an advisor to a CBP. You know,
Ice made the most immigrant arrests illegal immigrant arrests in
a single day Tuesday of this week, twenty two hundred
people in one day. They're ramping up. They are ramping up,
and that is certainly good to see. On the bad
(00:41):
side of things, a Colorado federal judge, a Biden appointee,
of course, has issued an order blocking the Trump administration
from deporting the wife and five children of the terrorist
in Boulder, Mohammed Suliman. So there's a judge who thinks
that he's prey. It seems this is really bad stuff
(01:05):
for the country when you have these judges who really
believe that they or act like they believe that they
call the shots for the executive branch. They have power
over foreign policy, they have power over everything. They can
just tell the president you can't do that, no constitutional
anything for it. No, you just can't do that. I say,
you can't do that. So you can't do that. Hundreds
(01:26):
of lower court judges and any one of them can
just bind the Commander in chief's hands on a whim.
And also, as we see they keep a lot of
them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually
make their way up there. So they're overturned and also
very partisan from the get go. But we're supposed to
(01:47):
think that this is okay. Why should we think that this, Well,
it's not, as you know, and we'll continue to follow
this very closely. Now, something else that I think is
a bit of our time, and it is how this
(02:07):
moment is when all of the people who were part
of the Biden lie are running for cover, are scrambling
away from what they did to the country and trying
to cash in on it. As you know, I saw
through the whole Tapper thing all along. This is somebody
who was a nasty defender of all things Biden cognition
(02:31):
during the Biden administration. He's a Democrat activist. He is
a very noxious combination of psychotically thin skinned Tapper as
well as wildly narcissistic and thinks that he can fool
all of us into believing that he did the crime
but should not do the time when it comes to
(02:51):
the Biden cover up, that he is the guy who
should be speaking truth to power. It didn't work. I
think people have seen through this. I used selling a
lot of books, but I think he sold whatever was
left of his credibility along with it. And that's so
that's one case of this, right, one case of a
Democrat propagandist running for the exits, or rather trying to
(03:14):
not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next
for the next go round with the next administration. And
then you have this Corrine Jean Pierre and I remember
when she was the bide In press secretary. You know,
we would talk about some of the things that she said,
(03:34):
but we really started to, I think, lay off on
this show because it felt like, you know, she just
wasn't up for it. And it's different when you're the
president versus being the press secretary. If the president's brain
doesn't work, it's not mean I have to say it.
(03:55):
If the White House Press secretary is just not very
bright and not very capable, I mean, I'm to say it,
but you know, I really I don't. I'll tell you
this two things to our credit, but maybe in this
business sometimes a bit of a hindrance. I'm not a
mean guy, and Play's not a mean guy. We don't
like being mean to anybody. We choose to be as
kind as we can be. I think both of us,
(04:17):
in our own ways. Kindness is different than niceness. I
agree with that. Niceness is I don't want to be
offensive and you know nice, eh, Kindness is no. I
want to treat people. I want to treat people well
and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and positive
in my interactions with my fellow human beings. And so
(04:38):
basically I'm saying like we felt almost felt bad for
Karan Jean Pierre because she was so in over her
head and it was so obvious, and I didn't feel
like beating up on her on the show was really Yeah,
we had some fun with it sometimes, but it's very different.
Like we kend up Bernie's Biden, he's the commander in chief, unacceptable,
he's a fraudster, he's a liar. The whole thing was disgusting.
Free Jean Pierre is somebody who look she was a
(05:01):
DEI higher in the sense that she clearly was not
up for this job, but she was. She is a
lesbian and she is black, and that was very exciting.
Those characteristics were very exciting for Democrats to have in
a White House Press secretary. Now, the conservative view on
these things and you see this with you know, you've
(05:21):
got different people who could be or rather are I guess,
diversity technically within the Trump administration, whether it's women or
you know, Richard Grenell is gay. I mean, there's these
people that are that have worked for Trump at senior level,
and it's just about are they good at the job,
and there's not this obsession with the either immutable characteristics
(05:45):
or the sexual orientation or anything like this about these individuals.
We just pick people, or you know, Trump picks people
that he thinks will be really good, and he puts
a He's put a lot of women, as you've noticed,
for example, in senior positions, and these are some tough
ladies and they're showing their competency day in and day out.
I mean, ever on somebody like Caroline Caroline Levitt is
(06:07):
doing a phenomenal job as White House Press Secretary. But
Karine Jean Pierre just she didn't have it. She wasn't
very good at this, She was not up to the task,
and I actually think that it was clear to a
lot of people that that was the case, and so
she did not get very much heat from the media. Yes,
(06:27):
because she was Home team, I understand, and yes, she's
a black lesbian and therefore is in the world of
identity politics double protected. As the left views this. Right,
if you're a conservative, if you're on the right, you
just view people as people, and you treat them as people,
and you expect, you know, you hold everyone to the
(06:48):
same framework of are you good at this, are you
bad at this? Are you doing your job, or you're
not doing your job. That is the right conservative point
of view. The liberal point of view is, well, we're
gonna pick people for different things, and this goes to
a Supreme Court case. I'm'm talking about a second here.
But the left wing point of view, the democrat point
(07:09):
of view, we're gonna pick people and we're gonna tell
you they're just as good as anybody else, and they're
not picked for these reasons, but we're also going to
praise them for being these different things. So there's a
cognitive dissonance here, right, like this has always been the
problem with the firnaive action, always been the problem with
the EI. You can't say we need to give an
advantage to people because of skin color, sexual orientation, whatever.
(07:33):
But you can't think that we're giving anybody an advantage
because of those things. This is the fundamental and the
fundamental disconnect. This is the cognitive dissonance. And then they
do this thing of oh, but it's just a little bit,
it's just a little bit of a help, because when
you start to corner them on these issues, you find
out that this doesn't it can't hold up. This doesn't
(07:53):
make sense. You can't ask somebody. You can't say I'm
picking this person because of A. And then you're not
allowed to say I'm picking this person because of A.
You can't. You can't do that. That does not compute.
You're asking us to, you know, believe that up is down,
and or you're rather demanding that we believe that up
(08:13):
is down. So that's what we saw with Greenshaw perre
here and now she is putting out a book called
Independent here she is announcing it, so she's leaving the
Democrat Party. She's not just talking about the bid administrate.
She's leaving the Democrat Party. This is cut too. This
is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and
think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
And the way that I see moving forward in this
space that we're in right now is if you are
willing to stand side by side with me, regardless of
your political how you identify politically, and as long as
(08:59):
you do you respect the community that I belong to
and vulnerable communities that I respect, I will.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Be there with you.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I will be I.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Will move forward with you. And that is I think
so important.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Hm hmm. What happened to the Democrat Party? Why is
she leaving the Democrat Party? She was the chief spokeswoman
for the Biden regime and now she's an independent. Now
she's talking about how she's It makes no sense. It
makes no sense. But what's interesting to me now is
(09:39):
this is completely predictable. Now there are Democrats sources that
are trashing her all over the place. Oh, she wasn't
up for it. She wouldn't let Kirby member Kirby, you all,
the white guy from the Pentagon, Uh, you know he
was gonna do briefings on nationalist curty, but she wouldn't
let him because he's so much smarter than she is
and it made her and secure, so he wasn't allowed
(10:01):
to it. And now everyone's talking about this. I'm sorry
when you propagate the lie because it is worth it
for you to do so you don't get to turn
around and pretend you're a hero when it doesn't matter anymore.
And this is really the whole situation of what's going
on now with some of these going with whether it's Tapper, Green,
(10:22):
John Pierre, there's gonna be others too. Now all of
a sudden, you know, they're trying to tell you that
they've had this big change of heart. They see what's
going on. Why won't they say why won't they reach
out to people like me, for example, and say you
were right? I don't just mean me, but you know
people on the right in general. Why don't they say
they were right? And I should really think about why
they were right? And I should think about why I
(10:45):
lied publicly, speaking from the Democrat perspective, why they lied
about things when they just had to know everything they
were saying was nonsense, And what does that say about
their character. What does that say about their integrity? I
mean they have it means they have no integrity, and
they have no integrity at all. Here you go? Who cares?
(11:10):
Congressional Dems say, good riddance to Karine Jean Pierre. This
is from Axios. Democrat lawmakers say, who cares? Here you go.
Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed
as her answers in the White House press briefing. Democrats
are trashing her now and basically saying she's an idiot.
(11:31):
That's what they're saying. She never was up for it,
never could do it, so they put they put a
black lesbian in this role. Tell Us it's amazing. Tell
Us they didn't do it though, because she's a black lesbian.
They say, they just did it because she's so good
at the job. And we say, but she's not good
at the job, and they say, how dare you? She's
(11:53):
good at the job. And now that the whole thing
has fallen apart, the administration's done, they lost it's. Oh no,
she was an idiot all along, and the only reason
she had the job was because she's a black lesbian.
And Democrats are obsessed with dei, and that is what
Democrats are saying now. So everything that we tell you
on this show about what's going on, you'll notice true.
(12:15):
The things that we say, we just keep getting more
affirmation of. And we said it all along. The other
side has to keep trying to find ways to explain
to their audience, to their voters why they lie and
why they're wrong about everything. You could say this is
a trend, you could say this is an indicator of something.
And now I'm gonna come back and speak about the
(12:36):
Supreme Court decision that just came down. It turns out
you can't discriminate. You can't say I'm firing you and
hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian. This is a
real case. This just happened. That this is wrong. Of
course it's wrong. It's always been wrong. But it was
also always wrong to hire somebody because they were a
black lesbian or a lesbian or an Eskimo or whatever.
(12:59):
It's always been wrong to do that. It was never
okay to do this thing that was done for a
long time. And now the courts agree with me. Now
you know, if any of you out there are fired,
so they can hire a minority or a trans individual
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(13:21):
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A little bit of trouble in paradise here in Maga world,
and I want to ignore this. Like I said, it's
(18:59):
like watch my family members picker or something. I'm like, guys, guys,
come on, come on, you know, I don't like it.
I don't like it. I don't like it. Trump and
Elon there's a bit of a little bit of uh,
you know, static, call it static. I think they'll smooth
this thing over. But look, Elon's not working in the
administration anymore, so it doesn't really matter. Him going back
(19:22):
to well, it matters, but it's not a big deal.
Him going back to running Tesla, which is a company
that I very much believe in Think is incredible and
SpaceX and X the platform, and Elon has done a lot,
a lot for the country, a lot for MAGA and
and Doge has been I think eye opening in a
(19:43):
way that we really needed to see. All of that said,
it is a little bit frustrating here to see Trump
and Elon having a bit of a spat over what's
going on here with this spending bill. Trump is now
saying that Elon, hold on a second, make sure I
(20:05):
get this right. Elon has Trump Derangement syndrome. Here we go.
President Trump appeared to oh wait, we actually have some sound, guys.
Can you play the This is from the Oval Office.
Trump talked about the situation with Elon. I don't know
what the number is on this one, but you can
pull up the clip we had it before. Let's hear
what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship. Play it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
what will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had
a wonderful send off.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
He said wonderful things about me.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You couldn't have nicer said the test things he's worn
the hat. Trump was right about everything, and I am
right about the great big beautiful bill. We call it
a great, big beautiful bill because that's what it is.
And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development
moves anywhere, We've never done anything like it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Saying they may not have a great relationship going forward,
We'll say, Look, one thing about Trump you have to remember,
and you know this, and I know this, is that
you know he's not an opponent you want to have.
It's not gonna go well for you. But he also
always the keeps the tent flap open for you to
come back and you know, be back on the team.
(21:24):
He has a he has really a remarkable willingness to
bring people back into the fold who want to be
part of the agenda and want to move the country
in this in the same direction. A lot of Look,
I want a great example of this, Mark Rubio, I
mean Marco Rubio and Trump went at each other in
that primary in twenty sixteen. You remember, you know, uh
(21:47):
talking about like little hands and stuff, and you know,
Marco decided he was gonna play a little rough with Trump,
and Trump could play a lot rougher, and we all
remember what happened. We all remember what happened. And now
Mark Rubio is Trump's a plus Secretary of State, total
confidence in going both ways there, and he's doing great
(22:07):
stuff for the administration. And you know, Mark or Rubio
is just getting it done, and Trump knows it, and
he's and he is dialed in, he is locked in,
and a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of
gets the most Improved, most Improved award on the Republican
side of things. And he's doing great stuff and the
Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon. We'll
(22:28):
talk to him about it. But yeah, I think it's
exactly exactly the case that Trump will always allow people
to come back in after there's been a public split,
unless they like play really dirty and try to imprison
his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
But I bring this up because this is what Elon
(22:50):
put out on X. Elon has the richest guy on
the planet.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Are there two guys with bigger and both very deserved
but bigger egos on Earth. I don't know. It would
be I mean there's delusionally, Keith Oberman. I mean there's
people who have huge egos who are total losers for
people who are actually winners with big egos. Trumpet Elon
or high up on the list, right, and Elon put
(23:18):
this out there on X just in the last about
an hour hour and change ago. Without me, this is Elon.
Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
forty nine in the Senate. And then he added such ingratitude. Okay,
(23:46):
just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here, just
saying that there's a little bit of a thing, a
little bit, a little bit of a speedbump. I think
it's all gonna be fine. Elon's upset about this bill.
He's a true and cutting the government spending. And I
understand what his case is with this. The problem, as
I've laid out the problems for one, it's if you
(24:08):
tried to do what Elon wants them to do, you
would not have passage of it in Congress. So what's
the what's the way forward?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Then?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't I don't understand what the way forward is
because you have to get Democrats to go on if
you have to get Democrats to go on board. Now
now you got nothing. Now you're just letting the Democrats
call the shots. That's crazy. So unless you want tonop
the philibuster on this issue in this moment, and remember,
the Democrats will be very happy to go completely insane
the moment they have fifty one seats in the Senate
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if the filibuster is gone, and they may still do
that in the future. And maybe that's the argument that
should be made right now, but that's not the argument
that's being me. But it's you have the bromance of
Trump and Elon right now. They want a little space.
They want a little space. Trump is out on the
golf course, Elon's going for a walk on the beach.
(25:01):
Some sad music playing in the background. I think they're
both probably having some moments where they think back to,
you know, hand in hand walking down the White House
lawn and talking about how great Tesla is and the
happy music going. We're in a different part of the
story right now. It's a little sad, but it's gonna
(25:21):
be okay. I'm sure that they will make amends. I'm
not I don't think this is some big thing. Elon
is red pilled. Elon knows that Maga is. It's it's
just a question of whether we want to have a
sane country in a sane government or not. Democrats are
complete lunatics, total lunatics, honestly their party. Yeah, there are smart,
nice Democrats. I'm friends with playing the Democrats, That's not
(25:42):
what I'm saying. The Democrat Party, though, is now run
by an ideology that is just deranged. We see this,
whether we're talking about the trans athlete stuff that they're
still sticking to, or don't even really know what the
Democrats stand for right now, because they're still trying to
regain in some footing after supporting a dementia patient for
(26:03):
four years that obviously had dementia and they pretend like
he didn't. And now we all have to sit around saying, well,
you knew the whole time, How can you How can
you lecture us on anything? How can Democrats lecture us
on anything when it comes to government or decision making whatever?
When they had Joe Biden as president for four years
and we all knew, and they knew, what grounds do
(26:23):
they have to stand on here? So I just wanted to.
I wanted to note that there's a little bit of
a little bit of friction right now in Maga world
with Trump and Elon and I just I'll say this too,
two alpha dogs like that. This was if I didn't
say it on this show, it's because I didn't want
to rain on the election parade of how great everything
(26:46):
was going. But we've all known that eventually this is
this was gonna there was gonna be a little bit
of a And when I say a little bit of
a break, I don't mean that they're gonna hate each
other and Elon's gonna go left wing and Trump's gonna
have to throw big haymakers at him publicly for a
long time. But there was a time limit to how
long I think these two guys could really closely collaborate
(27:10):
before it was going to be best for all that
Trump goes back to being president and Elon goes back
to running his companies. And that is where we are.
So it's not a big deal. But you know, the
bromance movie here is. Like I said, this is a
little bit of a different space. I'm sure give it
a few months. Elon will be at mar A Lago
they'll be laughing it up and having dinner and everything else.
But Elon's are very intense. I don't know him, but
(27:32):
just haven't met him, actually, which is kind of a shame.
I'd like to meet him at some point. Elon's a
very intense guy, obviously, and believes very much in the
mission that he was taking on at Doge. And when
you have that level of intensity, you can become a
little I don't know if monomaniacal is the right word.
(27:53):
You can get a little two laser focus on that
one thing. Trump has got to focus on a lot
of things, and he does have to do with what
is possible out there. And this is a difference, right,
Elon is used to being. You can be much closer
to a truly, you can be much closer to a
dictator in your day to day affairs, day to day affairs.
(28:13):
As the CEO and primary shareholder of a company, you
can be much closer to a dictator than you ken
as president, with a Congress and a Supreme Court and
three hundred and fifty million people who all have opinions. Right,
it's different. It's different now. I know Trump has been
CEO of companies too, so he understands that. But Elon's
(28:35):
never been president, and there's some some nuances here that
are in the skill set. But I'm wondering what you
think about this one. I am not surprised by this
at all. I will just say I'm not surprised by
this at all. I was also not surprised at all
at the Elon Ramaswami split that occurred right away. I
won't get into that now. Maybe we'll talk about another time.
(28:57):
But I knew that Elon was like that was not
going to work. And I know, I'm just saying that
that was and everyone who knows me and UH those
my feelings on that where they know that I that
wasn't gonna be. I was on vacation when UH and overseas,
so I really wasn't online or or getting involved in it.
(29:18):
But that whole h one B visa situation with with
Elon and Ramaswami and and Trump and MAGA and yeah,
so anyway, I want to get back to our agenda here,
what's going on with UH, with the country and and
all the good things that are happening. But I had
to take note of a little bit of a disturbance
in the force if you will, with the Trump and Elon,
(29:38):
it's gonna be It's gonna be fine. Now, I'm telling
you those guys. It's one of Trump's nicest qualities really
just as a person, is that he's willing to he's
willing to let people see the error of their ways
and come back and and bring them back into the fold.
And it's fine. It's a really nice it's a really
lovely quality to have. I will say, many people don't
(29:59):
have that at all. Many people hold grudges, and grudges
are kind of grudges are not generally good. Grudges I
think usually are toxic or you know, usually have a
toxicity to them. I didn't get to get into the
details of this Supreme Court decision, but essentially the notion
of reverse discrimination has been flipped on its head here.
(30:22):
The Supreme Court had to the basics of this are
a woman was working for a hold on it was
like a juvenile detention facility or something. She was an administrator.
She applied for a more senior job. They didn't give
her that job, and then they demoted her and she
lost out to somebody who was a lesbian, and then
she was replaced by somebody who was gay, and she
felt like there was some DEI stuff going on here,
(30:44):
and she sued, and the lower courts, the district court,
in the Circuit court, this is Ames Ames via Ohio
Department of Youth Services. And what the lower courts found was, well,
you're a heterosexual female, so it's not really possible for
you to be this was Yeah, like I said, this
(31:07):
was in Ohio. It's not really possible for you to
be discriminated against. And they said that she failed to
clear the bar applied to members of a majority group
in order to be considered discriminated against under Title seven
of the Civil Rights Act. So there's a higher burden
if you're straight than if you're lgbtq IA plus because
(31:30):
you're still supposed to be protected. These are protected characteristics.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, can't discriminate
on the basis of skin color, ethnicity. Right, that's the law.
But they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination
if you're white, or it's harder to prove discrimination if
you're straight. And by a unanimous decision written by written
(31:55):
by Justice Jackson, Catanji Browns that the standard is the standard,
and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody, or
you demote somebody or whatever, and it's it's provable that
you did it. So you could hire someone who's g
(32:15):
or you could hire somebody who's you know, an Eskimo
or whatever. That's wrong. No more reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination.
We're either protected and you can't hurt anyone based upon
things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical
and what the law should be, or we got a problem.
(32:36):
The Left hates this, of course, because this is a
huge challenge to the DEI regime. This is a huge
challenge to the racial spoil system and the gender identity
spoils system that they set up Supreme Court. And I
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Up today.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm gonna be out tomorrow and then Monday, so we
kind of trading off the street. Clay will be back in.
I was with him last night. He was having a
good time, him and Jesse Kelly going shot for shot
most expensive tequila imaginable of course, at the bar, and
he'll be back with you. I'm sure ready to go.
We're freshed and ready to go tomorrow. You might have
(34:21):
seen him and Jesse waters Jesse was talking about Clay's tan.
Clay went a little light on the sun block. I'm
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I might have needed some of the Alovira jel for.
Remember that when you would get to burn when you
were like usually when you're a kid, is I think
when this would happen and you had to put that
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Oh man, green goo felt good, but then we get
(34:42):
all sticky. All right, let's take Clay in wake Forest,
North Carolina. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Clay, Hey, buddy, I love what you guys are doing.
I think everybody's missing what's happening between Trump and Musk.
I think before Musk left the White House, he and
Tromp got together over Mac and said, hey, I got
an idea. Let's act. Let's as soon as you're out
of here, let's act like we're having this big blow up.
Everybody will go, whoa, this is crazy. They'll focus on that,
(35:09):
and you can get your companies back in line and
they'll take the heat off of you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I like your optimism about it. I'll say that, Clay.
I appreciate you calling in. I don't see that, but
I like where your head's at. I'll put it that way.
And rights in on our VIP's buck. Are you discouraged
to see Trump and Elon's friendship falling apart? I sure am.
I love seeing them work together. And I knew this
was going to happen. That's the honest truth. I knew
(35:37):
this was going to happen. You get two you guys
know you know, you put two Siames fighting fish in
the same bowl. You know what happened. These guys are
These guys are alpha dogs who want it their way.
It's amazing they work together as effectively as they did
as long as he did. Quite honestly, Laura, right away,
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and guys, I'm gonna miss all of you. Clay will
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on Tuesday from DC, so uh, I'll miss you
Welcome back in everybody. Third hour of play and Buck
gets going right now and much to talk about more
on the big beautiful Bill from back and forth on
that one. I have a Supreme Court decision that I
think is very interesting that I will break down for you.
(00:20):
We just spoke to an advisor to a CBP. You know,
Ice made the most immigrant arrests illegal immigrant arrests in
a single day Tuesday of this week, twenty two hundred
people in one day. They're ramping up. They are ramping up,
and that is certainly good to see. On the bad
(00:41):
side of things, a Colorado federal judge, a Biden appointee,
of course, has issued an order blocking the Trump administration
from deporting the wife and five children of the terrorist
in Boulder, Mohammed Suliman. So there's a judge who thinks
that he's prey. It seems this is really bad stuff
(01:05):
for the country when you have these judges who really
believe that they or act like they believe that they
call the shots for the executive branch. They have power
over foreign policy, they have power over everything. They can
just tell the president you can't do that, no constitutional
anything for it. No, you just can't do that. I say,
you can't do that. So you can't do that. Hundreds
(01:26):
of lower court judges and any one of them can
just bind the Commander in chief's hands on a whim.
And also, as we see they keep a lot of
them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually
make their way up there. So they're overturned and also
very partisan from the get go. But we're supposed to
(01:47):
think that this is okay. Why should we think that this, Well,
it's not, as you know, and we'll continue to follow
this very closely. Now, something else that I think is
a bit of our time, and it is how this
(02:07):
moment is when all of the people who were part
of the Biden lie are running for cover, are scrambling
away from what they did to the country and trying
to cash in on it. As you know, I saw
through the whole Tapper thing all along. This is somebody
who was a nasty defender of all things Biden cognition
(02:31):
during the Biden administration. He's a Democrat activist. He is
a very noxious combination of psychotically thin skinned Tapper as
well as wildly narcissistic and thinks that he can fool
all of us into believing that he did the crime
but should not do the time when it comes to
(02:51):
the Biden cover up, that he is the guy who
should be speaking truth to power. It didn't work. I
think people have seen through this. I used selling a
lot of books, but I think he sold whatever was
left of his credibility along with it. And that's so
that's one case of this, right, one case of a
Democrat propagandist running for the exits, or rather trying to
(03:14):
not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next
for the next go round with the next administration. And
then you have this Corrine Jean Pierre and I remember
when she was the bide In press secretary. You know,
we would talk about some of the things that she said,
(03:34):
but we really started to, I think, lay off on
this show because it felt like, you know, she just
wasn't up for it. And it's different when you're the
president versus being the press secretary. If the president's brain
doesn't work, it's not mean I have to say it.
(03:55):
If the White House Press secretary is just not very
bright and not very capable, I mean, I'm to say it,
but you know, I really I don't. I'll tell you
this two things to our credit, but maybe in this
business sometimes a bit of a hindrance. I'm not a
mean guy, and Play's not a mean guy. We don't
like being mean to anybody. We choose to be as
kind as we can be. I think both of us,
(04:17):
in our own ways. Kindness is different than niceness. I
agree with that. Niceness is I don't want to be
offensive and you know nice, eh, Kindness is no. I
want to treat people. I want to treat people well
and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and positive
in my interactions with my fellow human beings. And so
(04:38):
basically I'm saying like we felt almost felt bad for
Karan Jean Pierre because she was so in over her
head and it was so obvious, and I didn't feel
like beating up on her on the show was really Yeah,
we had some fun with it sometimes, but it's very different.
Like we kend up Bernie's Biden, he's the commander in chief, unacceptable,
he's a fraudster, he's a liar. The whole thing was disgusting.
Free Jean Pierre is somebody who look she was a
(05:01):
DEI higher in the sense that she clearly was not
up for this job, but she was. She is a
lesbian and she is black, and that was very exciting.
Those characteristics were very exciting for Democrats to have in
a White House Press secretary. Now, the conservative view on
these things and you see this with you know, you've
(05:21):
got different people who could be or rather are I guess,
diversity technically within the Trump administration, whether it's women or
you know, Richard Grenell is gay. I mean, there's these
people that are that have worked for Trump at senior level,
and it's just about are they good at the job,
and there's not this obsession with the either immutable characteristics
(05:45):
or the sexual orientation or anything like this about these individuals.
We just pick people, or you know, Trump picks people
that he thinks will be really good, and he puts
a He's put a lot of women, as you've noticed,
for example, in senior positions, and these are some tough
ladies and they're showing their competency day in and day out.
I mean, ever on somebody like Caroline Caroline Levitt is
(06:07):
doing a phenomenal job as White House Press Secretary. But
Karine Jean Pierre just she didn't have it. She wasn't
very good at this, She was not up to the task,
and I actually think that it was clear to a
lot of people that that was the case, and so
she did not get very much heat from the media. Yes,
(06:27):
because she was Home team, I understand, and yes, she's
a black lesbian and therefore is in the world of
identity politics double protected. As the left views this. Right,
if you're a conservative, if you're on the right, you
just view people as people, and you treat them as people,
and you expect, you know, you hold everyone to the
(06:48):
same framework of are you good at this, are you
bad at this? Are you doing your job, or you're
not doing your job. That is the right conservative point
of view. The liberal point of view is, well, we're
gonna pick people for different things, and this goes to
a Supreme Court case. I'm'm talking about a second here.
But the left wing point of view, the democrat point
(07:09):
of view, we're gonna pick people and we're gonna tell
you they're just as good as anybody else, and they're
not picked for these reasons, but we're also going to
praise them for being these different things. So there's a
cognitive dissonance here, right, like this has always been the
problem with the firnaive action, always been the problem with
the EI. You can't say we need to give an
advantage to people because of skin color, sexual orientation, whatever.
(07:33):
But you can't think that we're giving anybody an advantage
because of those things. This is the fundamental and the
fundamental disconnect. This is the cognitive dissonance. And then they
do this thing of oh, but it's just a little bit,
it's just a little bit of a help, because when
you start to corner them on these issues, you find
out that this doesn't it can't hold up. This doesn't
(07:53):
make sense. You can't ask somebody. You can't say I'm
picking this person because of A. And then you're not
allowed to say I'm picking this person because of A.
You can't. You can't do that. That does not compute.
You're asking us to, you know, believe that up is down,
and or you're rather demanding that we believe that up
(08:13):
is down. So that's what we saw with Greenshaw perre
here and now she is putting out a book called
Independent here she is announcing it, so she's leaving the
Democrat Party. She's not just talking about the bid administrate.
She's leaving the Democrat Party. This is cut too. This
is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and
think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
And the way that I see moving forward in this
space that we're in right now is if you are
willing to stand side by side with me, regardless of
your political how you identify politically, and as long as
(08:59):
you do you respect the community that I belong to
and vulnerable communities that I respect, I will.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Be there with you.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I will be I.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Will move forward with you. And that is I think
so important.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Hm hmm. What happened to the Democrat Party? Why is
she leaving the Democrat Party? She was the chief spokeswoman
for the Biden regime and now she's an independent. Now
she's talking about how she's It makes no sense. It
makes no sense. But what's interesting to me now is
(09:39):
this is completely predictable. Now there are Democrats sources that
are trashing her all over the place. Oh, she wasn't
up for it. She wouldn't let Kirby member Kirby, you all,
the white guy from the Pentagon, Uh, you know he
was gonna do briefings on nationalist curty, but she wouldn't
let him because he's so much smarter than she is
and it made her and secure, so he wasn't allowed
(10:01):
to it. And now everyone's talking about this. I'm sorry
when you propagate the lie because it is worth it
for you to do so you don't get to turn
around and pretend you're a hero when it doesn't matter anymore.
And this is really the whole situation of what's going
on now with some of these going with whether it's Tapper, Green,
(10:22):
John Pierre, there's gonna be others too. Now all of
a sudden, you know, they're trying to tell you that
they've had this big change of heart. They see what's
going on. Why won't they say why won't they reach
out to people like me, for example, and say you
were right? I don't just mean me, but you know
people on the right in general. Why don't they say
they were right? And I should really think about why
they were right? And I should think about why I
(10:45):
lied publicly, speaking from the Democrat perspective, why they lied
about things when they just had to know everything they
were saying was nonsense, And what does that say about
their character. What does that say about their integrity? I
mean they have it means they have no integrity, and
they have no integrity at all. Here you go? Who cares?
(11:10):
Congressional Dems say, good riddance to Karine Jean Pierre. This
is from Axios. Democrat lawmakers say, who cares? Here you go.
Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed
as her answers in the White House press briefing. Democrats
are trashing her now and basically saying she's an idiot.
(11:31):
That's what they're saying. She never was up for it,
never could do it, so they put they put a
black lesbian in this role. Tell Us it's amazing. Tell
Us they didn't do it though, because she's a black lesbian.
They say, they just did it because she's so good
at the job. And we say, but she's not good
at the job, and they say, how dare you? She's
(11:53):
good at the job. And now that the whole thing
has fallen apart, the administration's done, they lost it's. Oh no,
she was an idiot all along, and the only reason
she had the job was because she's a black lesbian.
And Democrats are obsessed with dei, and that is what
Democrats are saying now. So everything that we tell you
on this show about what's going on, you'll notice true.
(12:15):
The things that we say, we just keep getting more
affirmation of. And we said it all along. The other
side has to keep trying to find ways to explain
to their audience, to their voters why they lie and
why they're wrong about everything. You could say this is
a trend, you could say this is an indicator of something.
And now I'm gonna come back and speak about the
(12:36):
Supreme Court decision that just came down. It turns out
you can't discriminate. You can't say I'm firing you and
hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian. This is a
real case. This just happened. That this is wrong. Of
course it's wrong. It's always been wrong. But it was
also always wrong to hire somebody because they were a
black lesbian or a lesbian or an Eskimo or whatever.
(12:59):
It's always been wrong to do that. It was never
okay to do this thing that was done for a
long time. And now the courts agree with me. Now
you know, if any of you out there are fired,
so they can hire a minority or a trans individual
or whatever you can sue because it's wrong. Let's talk
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A little bit of trouble in paradise here in Maga world,
and I want to ignore this. Like I said, it's
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like watch my family members picker or something. I'm like, guys, guys,
come on, come on, you know, I don't like it.
I don't like it. I don't like it. Trump and
Elon there's a bit of a little bit of uh,
you know, static, call it static. I think they'll smooth
this thing over. But look, Elon's not working in the
administration anymore, so it doesn't really matter. Him going back
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to well, it matters, but it's not a big deal.
Him going back to running Tesla, which is a company
that I very much believe in Think is incredible and
SpaceX and X the platform, and Elon has done a lot,
a lot for the country, a lot for MAGA and
and Doge has been I think eye opening in a
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way that we really needed to see. All of that said,
it is a little bit frustrating here to see Trump
and Elon having a bit of a spat over what's
going on here with this spending bill. Trump is now
saying that Elon, hold on a second, make sure I
(20:05):
get this right. Elon has Trump Derangement syndrome. Here we go.
President Trump appeared to oh wait, we actually have some sound, guys.
Can you play the This is from the Oval Office.
Trump talked about the situation with Elon. I don't know
what the number is on this one, but you can
pull up the clip we had it before. Let's hear
what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship. Play it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
what will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had
a wonderful send off.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
He said wonderful things about me.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You couldn't have nicer said the test things he's worn
the hat. Trump was right about everything, and I am
right about the great big beautiful bill. We call it
a great, big beautiful bill because that's what it is.
And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development
moves anywhere, We've never done anything like it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Saying they may not have a great relationship going forward,
We'll say, Look, one thing about Trump you have to remember,
and you know this, and I know this, is that
you know he's not an opponent you want to have.
It's not gonna go well for you. But he also
always the keeps the tent flap open for you to
come back and you know, be back on the team.
(21:24):
He has a he has really a remarkable willingness to
bring people back into the fold who want to be
part of the agenda and want to move the country
in this in the same direction. A lot of Look,
I want a great example of this, Mark Rubio, I
mean Marco Rubio and Trump went at each other in
that primary in twenty sixteen. You remember, you know, uh
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talking about like little hands and stuff, and you know,
Marco decided he was gonna play a little rough with Trump,
and Trump could play a lot rougher, and we all
remember what happened. We all remember what happened. And now
Mark Rubio is Trump's a plus Secretary of State, total
confidence in going both ways there, and he's doing great
(22:07):
stuff for the administration. And you know, Mark or Rubio
is just getting it done, and Trump knows it, and
he's and he is dialed in, he is locked in,
and a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of
gets the most Improved, most Improved award on the Republican
side of things. And he's doing great stuff and the
Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon. We'll
(22:28):
talk to him about it. But yeah, I think it's
exactly exactly the case that Trump will always allow people
to come back in after there's been a public split,
unless they like play really dirty and try to imprison
his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
But I bring this up because this is what Elon
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put out on X. Elon has the richest guy on
the planet.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Are there two guys with bigger and both very deserved
but bigger egos on Earth. I don't know. It would
be I mean there's delusionally, Keith Oberman. I mean there's
people who have huge egos who are total losers for
people who are actually winners with big egos. Trumpet Elon
or high up on the list, right, and Elon put
(23:18):
this out there on X just in the last about
an hour hour and change ago. Without me, this is Elon.
Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
forty nine in the Senate. And then he added such ingratitude. Okay,
(23:46):
just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here, just
saying that there's a little bit of a thing, a
little bit, a little bit of a speedbump. I think
it's all gonna be fine. Elon's upset about this bill.
He's a true and cutting the government spending. And I
understand what his case is with this. The problem, as
I've laid out the problems for one, it's if you
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tried to do what Elon wants them to do, you
would not have passage of it in Congress. So what's
the what's the way forward?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Then?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't I don't understand what the way forward is
because you have to get Democrats to go on if
you have to get Democrats to go on board. Now
now you got nothing. Now you're just letting the Democrats
call the shots. That's crazy. So unless you want tonop
the philibuster on this issue in this moment, and remember,
the Democrats will be very happy to go completely insane
the moment they have fifty one seats in the Senate
(24:40):
if the filibuster is gone, and they may still do
that in the future. And maybe that's the argument that
should be made right now, but that's not the argument
that's being me. But it's you have the bromance of
Trump and Elon right now. They want a little space.
They want a little space. Trump is out on the
golf course, Elon's going for a walk on the beach.
(25:01):
Some sad music playing in the background. I think they're
both probably having some moments where they think back to,
you know, hand in hand walking down the White House
lawn and talking about how great Tesla is and the
happy music going. We're in a different part of the
story right now. It's a little sad, but it's gonna
(25:21):
be okay. I'm sure that they will make amends. I'm
not I don't think this is some big thing. Elon
is red pilled. Elon knows that Maga is. It's it's
just a question of whether we want to have a
sane country in a sane government or not. Democrats are
complete lunatics, total lunatics, honestly their party. Yeah, there are smart,
nice Democrats. I'm friends with playing the Democrats, That's not
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what I'm saying. The Democrat Party, though, is now run
by an ideology that is just deranged. We see this,
whether we're talking about the trans athlete stuff that they're
still sticking to, or don't even really know what the
Democrats stand for right now, because they're still trying to
regain in some footing after supporting a dementia patient for
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four years that obviously had dementia and they pretend like
he didn't. And now we all have to sit around saying, well,
you knew the whole time, How can you How can
you lecture us on anything? How can Democrats lecture us
on anything when it comes to government or decision making whatever?
When they had Joe Biden as president for four years
and we all knew, and they knew, what grounds do
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they have to stand on here? So I just wanted to.
I wanted to note that there's a little bit of
a little bit of friction right now in Maga world
with Trump and Elon and I just I'll say this too,
two alpha dogs like that. This was if I didn't
say it on this show, it's because I didn't want
to rain on the election parade of how great everything
(26:46):
was going. But we've all known that eventually this is
this was gonna there was gonna be a little bit
of a And when I say a little bit of
a break, I don't mean that they're gonna hate each
other and Elon's gonna go left wing and Trump's gonna
have to throw big haymakers at him publicly for a
long time. But there was a time limit to how
long I think these two guys could really closely collaborate
(27:10):
before it was going to be best for all that
Trump goes back to being president and Elon goes back
to running his companies. And that is where we are.
So it's not a big deal. But you know, the
bromance movie here is. Like I said, this is a
little bit of a different space. I'm sure give it
a few months. Elon will be at mar A Lago
they'll be laughing it up and having dinner and everything else.
But Elon's are very intense. I don't know him, but
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just haven't met him, actually, which is kind of a shame.
I'd like to meet him at some point. Elon's a
very intense guy, obviously, and believes very much in the
mission that he was taking on at Doge. And when
you have that level of intensity, you can become a
little I don't know if monomaniacal is the right word.
(27:53):
You can get a little two laser focus on that
one thing. Trump has got to focus on a lot
of things, and he does have to do with what
is possible out there. And this is a difference, right,
Elon is used to being. You can be much closer
to a truly, you can be much closer to a
dictator in your day to day affairs, day to day affairs.
(28:13):
As the CEO and primary shareholder of a company, you
can be much closer to a dictator than you ken
as president, with a Congress and a Supreme Court and
three hundred and fifty million people who all have opinions. Right,
it's different. It's different now. I know Trump has been
CEO of companies too, so he understands that. But Elon's
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never been president, and there's some some nuances here that
are in the skill set. But I'm wondering what you
think about this one. I am not surprised by this
at all. I will just say I'm not surprised by
this at all. I was also not surprised at all
at the Elon Ramaswami split that occurred right away. I
won't get into that now. Maybe we'll talk about another time.
(28:57):
But I knew that Elon was like that was not
going to work. And I know, I'm just saying that
that was and everyone who knows me and UH those
my feelings on that where they know that I that
wasn't gonna be. I was on vacation when UH and overseas,
so I really wasn't online or or getting involved in it.
(29:18):
But that whole h one B visa situation with with
Elon and Ramaswami and and Trump and MAGA and yeah,
so anyway, I want to get back to our agenda here,
what's going on with UH, with the country and and
all the good things that are happening. But I had
to take note of a little bit of a disturbance
in the force if you will, with the Trump and Elon,
(29:38):
it's gonna be It's gonna be fine. Now, I'm telling
you those guys. It's one of Trump's nicest qualities really
just as a person, is that he's willing to he's
willing to let people see the error of their ways
and come back and and bring them back into the fold.
And it's fine. It's a really nice it's a really
lovely quality to have. I will say, many people don't
(29:59):
have that at all. Many people hold grudges, and grudges
are kind of grudges are not generally good. Grudges I
think usually are toxic or you know, usually have a
toxicity to them. I didn't get to get into the
details of this Supreme Court decision, but essentially the notion
of reverse discrimination has been flipped on its head here.
(30:22):
The Supreme Court had to the basics of this are
a woman was working for a hold on it was
like a juvenile detention facility or something. She was an administrator.
She applied for a more senior job. They didn't give
her that job, and then they demoted her and she
lost out to somebody who was a lesbian, and then
she was replaced by somebody who was gay, and she
felt like there was some DEI stuff going on here,
(30:44):
and she sued, and the lower courts, the district court,
in the Circuit court, this is Ames Ames via Ohio
Department of Youth Services. And what the lower courts found was, well,
you're a heterosexual female, so it's not really possible for
you to be this was Yeah, like I said, this
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was in Ohio. It's not really possible for you to
be discriminated against. And they said that she failed to
clear the bar applied to members of a majority group
in order to be considered discriminated against under Title seven
of the Civil Rights Act. So there's a higher burden
if you're straight than if you're lgbtq IA plus because
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you're still supposed to be protected. These are protected characteristics.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, can't discriminate
on the basis of skin color, ethnicity. Right, that's the law.
But they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination
if you're white, or it's harder to prove discrimination if
you're straight. And by a unanimous decision written by written
(31:55):
by Justice Jackson, Catanji Browns that the standard is the standard,
and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody, or
you demote somebody or whatever, and it's it's provable that
you did it. So you could hire someone who's g
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or you could hire somebody who's you know, an Eskimo
or whatever. That's wrong. No more reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination.
We're either protected and you can't hurt anyone based upon
things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical
and what the law should be, or we got a problem.
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The Left hates this, of course, because this is a
huge challenge to the DEI regime. This is a huge
challenge to the racial spoil system and the gender identity
spoils system that they set up Supreme Court. And I
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Speaker 4 (33:59):
Up today.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm gonna be out tomorrow and then Monday, so we
kind of trading off the street. Clay will be back in.
I was with him last night. He was having a
good time, him and Jesse Kelly going shot for shot
most expensive tequila imaginable of course, at the bar, and
he'll be back with you. I'm sure ready to go.
We're freshed and ready to go tomorrow. You might have
(34:21):
seen him and Jesse waters Jesse was talking about Clay's tan.
Clay went a little light on the sun block. I'm
just gonna point out a little light on the sunblock.
I might have needed some of the Alovira jel for.
Remember that when you would get to burn when you
were like usually when you're a kid, is I think
when this would happen and you had to put that
green goo on, you know, and you just got soaping.
Oh man, green goo felt good, but then we get
(34:42):
all sticky. All right, let's take Clay in wake Forest,
North Carolina. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Clay, Hey, buddy, I love what you guys are doing.
I think everybody's missing what's happening between Trump and Musk.
I think before Musk left the White House, he and
Tromp got together over Mac and said, hey, I got
an idea. Let's act. Let's as soon as you're out
of here, let's act like we're having this big blow up.
Everybody will go, whoa, this is crazy. They'll focus on that,
(35:09):
and you can get your companies back in line and
they'll take the heat off of you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I like your optimism about it. I'll say that, Clay.
I appreciate you calling in. I don't see that, but
I like where your head's at. I'll put it that way.
And rights in on our VIP's buck. Are you discouraged
to see Trump and Elon's friendship falling apart? I sure am.
I love seeing them work together. And I knew this
was going to happen. That's the honest truth. I knew
(35:37):
this was going to happen. You get two you guys
know you know, you put two Siames fighting fish in
the same bowl. You know what happened. These guys are
These guys are alpha dogs who want it their way.
It's amazing they work together as effectively as they did
as long as he did. Quite honestly, Laura, right away,
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(36:20):
we out?
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I'll tell my my my brother Mason. He's in charge
of OPS, so we'll talk to him about Crocket Coffee
and guys, I'm gonna miss all of you. Clay will
be with you tomorrow and I'll be talking to you
on Tuesday from DC, so uh, I'll miss you
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