September 27, 2024 • 36 mins
IDF targets Hezbollah leadership in Beirut as Netanyahu gives fiery UN speech. Bill Melugin reports 13,000 illegals convicted for homicide and 16,000 convicted for rape have entered America. Bestselling author and former Navy SEAL Jack Carr joins C&B to talk about his first nonfiction book that tells the origin story of the war on terror, which began in Beirut in 1983. Latest on P. Diddy scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of play, and Bucket's going right now, we
have some big breaking news from overseas. Here in the
final hour of the program on this Friday in IDF
is really defense forces strike and airstrike on residential buildings
near Beirut, the capital of Lebanon, that it has been confirmed,
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were intended to target Hassan Nosrala. Hassan Nosrala is the
secretary general of Hesbelah, the head of Hesbolah, the terrorist
organization that runs Lebanon and has been at war with
Israel for decades and has been firing artillery shells and
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rockets and mortars on and off, day in and day
out now since the October seventh Hamas attack on Israel.
What we are still finding out as we're speaking to you.
It is confirmed and there's video in the New York
Times is reporting everyone's reporting on this right now confirm it.
There was a major Israeli airstrike on these civilian these
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civilian buildings. Because the IDF is saying that effectively Hasible
as central headquarters was beneath the buildings. We know from
Hamas and hesbel A tactics that this is right in
line with what they do they put military targets. This
is a violation of the Geneva Convention, the laws of
war by the way. They put military sites under civilian targets,
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so then if you actually hit the military target, you're
also going to hit the civilian site. They do this
with mosques, with schools, with hospitals, They've done it with
some of these buildings outside of Bay Route. This is
in a kind of like a suburb of Bay Root,
if you will. And Clay, what we're just starting to
find out is do you have it confirmed?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, well, no, I think we need to be careful.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
There are reports and I want to read what the
what the latest things that are out there are. Again,
this is probably not going to shock you, certainly, but
I don't even think it will shock many of our
audience out there. We know that the heads of Hesbola
were meeting in Beirut and that there was an attack
on them shortly after NETANYAHUO finished speaking. There have been
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reports that the heads of Hesbol.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Real quick Nenya, who's speaking at the United Nations General
Assembly in New York right now, so almost simultaneously he's
speaking at the you in General Assembly, there's this strike.
Keep going click so there are conflicting reports about whether Nazurala,
that basically the head of the Hesbola has been killed
or not. Several different news stories out conflicting reports. The
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Iranian embassy has put out a statement saying there has
been a dangerous escalation that changes the rules of the game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Just be aware.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Also, the alert level at every Israeli embassy around the
world has been raised to the highest levels. But that
would suggest that there may have been Certainly the strike
killed a lot of people, but they may have taken
out many more of the top leaders. But that is
what we know for sure. Some reports that some of
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those top leaders are dead, some people saying they're alive.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We still are waiting.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, let's just put this in a context for a second.
It was just a week ago when roughly when Israel
put in action in operation that exploding pagers and radios,
operation that took out thousands of Hesbala fighters with severe injuries,
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killed a few dozen of them. But it had showed
that Israel had managed to get into the supply chain
specifically for Hesbela terrorist operations and effectively told them all
or showed them all you are safe nowhere and we
can get you anywhere now after that, which is play
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one of the most uh incredible intelligence espionage sabotage operations
honestly in history. I mean, I've never heard of anything
like that before, and and I'm pretty familiar with the
history of intel and espionage. Now looks like they may
they may have decapitated with one strike the leadership of
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Hesbelah and possibly even killed Hassan Nasralla, who has been
running Hesbelah and truly Lebanon for decades, a mortal enemy
of the Israeli state and the Jewish people devoted to
the destruction of Israel, obsessed with it really, and Clay
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very involved with Hesbela and Iranian operations in Syria, very
close relationship with the Mullahs in Iran. Really, Hesbela is
a proxy of the Iranian Mulla's and they turned through
that Lebanon into essentially a client state of the Iranian
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regime right on Israel's doorstep. Now, this doesn't end the conflict.
In fact, this may very well dramatically escalate it. But
to me, this shows and we can play what Nennyahu
said today, this has cut seventeen but this shows that
Israel is not holding back anymore when it comes to
its security. Defense doesn't care what anybody outside externally is
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going to say and criticize. Here's what nen Yahoo's talking
about today at the United Nations playoff.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Israel seeks peace, Israel yearns for peace. Israel has made
peace and will make peace again. Yet we face savage
and MMI who seek our annihilation, and we must defend
ourselves against these savage murderers. Our enemies seek not only
to destroy us, they seek to destroy our common civilization
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and return all of us to a dark age of
tyranny and terror.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Clay, this is like Israel had it's nine to eleven,
and they are responding the way that we respond that
after nine to eleven, which is you want to try
to destroy our civilization, we will do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I think we should directly connect because some of
you are going to say, Okay, we got an American
presidential election in thirty eight days, whatever the math is,
why are we focused on what's going on in the
Middle East? That is a common complaint might be also
complaints about Ukraine. This one directly relates to the United
States right now, Buck, because Iran which funds Hezbolah and
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funds Hamas to be proxy warring against Israel, is also
trying to kill Donald Trump. So this is part of
a larger global conflagration that has emerged where Iran is
funding everything that goes on with Hamas, They're funding everything
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that goes on with Hesbola. They are simultaneously trying to
put their own nuclear ambitions complete them right to be
able to have nuclear weapons, and they are trying to
kill President Trump. And so whatever is happening in the
Middle East is not really divorced at all, to say
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nothing of the fact that Netanyahu is speaking at the
UN in New York City. But Buck, this is in
no way divorced from the current American political climate where
everywhere Trump goes right now, Iran's trying to kill him.
And their reports and we haven't even talked about this,
but I bet you saw them, And I think what's
worth mentioning that Trump isn't even able to do the
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rallies he wants to do because they are too concerned
about whether or not the government, your secret service, my
secret service can actually.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Keep him safe.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this is the world in which we are living
right now, and Buck with the one year anniversary of
October seventh, basically a week away. I don't think it's
crazy at all to think that something in the Middle
East could be one of these massive October surprises, either
something happening there or a terror attack that comes to
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our shore and something that they may happen here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So there's an important reality that I think is dawning
on the enemies of Israel in the aftermath of October seventh, Clay,
and it is that there's this standard national security analysis
that goes, oh, well, they'll ratchet up as you ratchet up,
or this will escalate, and then you'll escalate. The truth
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is that Israel militarily, when it comes to the use
of force, is in a different league, a different tier
from its enemies. But because of humanitarian concerns, because of
the fundamental and core decency of the Israeli state and
the Israeli people, they are proportionate. I think Israel has
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decided post October seventh. Look, we're going to still try
to abide by the laws of war as well as
any military force that is under threat will or can.
But we are showing now, meaning speaking from the Israeli perspective.
They are showing the enemies of Israel that we will
go for the jugular wherever you are, whoever you think
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you are. If you're going to be plotting terrorist attacks
against the Israeli state, if you think you're going to
hide in some building somewhere, we are going to blow
you up. We are going to kill you and your
bodyguards and your advisors, and we're not going to think
twice about it. This the escalation in a sense, is
the Israelis deciding the gloves come off. And that's what
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we're seeing with Hesbela, That's what we saw on Gaza,
and so you know this factor's in. You know, if
people keep saying maybe Iran's going to do something really big,
I don't think they want to see what the Israelis
would do in response. Given the mindset of the Israeli
people right now.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Not only that, I mean, what are you thinking if
you're Hesbla. To your point, Buck, they blew up your pagers,
they blew up your walkie talkies, they took out a
ton of the top leadership last week, and now they're
supposed to be a super secret meeting going on with
Hesbola and Beirut, and they may have blown up that
entire meeting. You want to talk about your infrastructure being corrupted.
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Israel knows better than a lot of the members of
Hesbola do what Hesbola is trying to do from one
moment to another, and I would think that's also a
lesson both for Iran but also Hamas right now is
on the back burner. There's been very little talk about
what's going on there. Instead, the war has moved to
southern Lebanon and it has turned into a turned into
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huge mess. We'll see if we get any confirmation and data.
But again, the way that the people are responding makes
me feel like this may very well have been a
successful decapitation of Hesbol's main leadership, and we will see
what sort of response is coming, if any, given what
we've seen with the pager and radio operation.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, if you're asking me right now, do I
think that got Hassan Usralla, I think the answer is yes,
we don't know yet. We shall see and maybe he's wounded,
maybe he wasn't killed in the strike. But this is
this is sending literal shockwaves through this suburb of Beirut,
and you know, there's always this sense of, oh, well,
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we could have more escalation in the add least. I
just think the idea f in the Israelis. You'll notice it,
like Biden and all that they're not even Israel's just
doing what it has to do to defend itself. There's
none of this oh you know, this kind of mother
may I with the US administration right now, that's not happening.
And I think the fact that Nan Yahoo's giving a
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fiery speech at the UN right around the time that
a strike like this is happening just goes to show
you that, I mean, after any people anywhere in the
world who suffered through what happened on October seventh would
feel morally justified in doing whatever it takes to secure
themselves and their people.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And that's where That's where the Israelis are, and that's
where we were after nine to eleven, which is how
I've thought about this all along. That's where people could
you know, there were complaints about what are we doing
in Afghanistan and other civilian casualties and everything else. Well,
we're going after the enemy. So I will see if
we get the confirmation this by the way, We've got
Jack Carr joining us in just a little bit about
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really in many ways the start of Hesba law as
a global terrorist entity or it's it's it's its biggest
operation in all time, which was, you know, on a
global level. What got it really a lot of attention
was the bombing of the marine barrack, which killed around
three hundred Americans two hundred and eighty something. I remember,
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and if I'm not mistaken, Buck, I think one of
the attacks on Hesbola by Israel in the last week
killed a guy with seven million dollars bounty on his
head from that nineteen eighty three bombing that he had
been wanted for nearly forty some odd years.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now Israel is settling scores. Go ahead, Yeah, Israel for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And we're talking about what Netanyahu said at the UN
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Kamala is down at the border or will be soon
in Arizona. And and I wanted to hit you guys
with this. This was just shared by the incredibly good
looking film Alugion, who also happens to have fantastic information,
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particularly as it deals with border related issues. These are
real numbers. Thirteen thousand that we know of. Thirteen thousand
illegal immigrants have entered this country who have been convicted
of homicide in other countries. Sixteen thousand illegal immigrants that
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we know of have entered this country who have been
convicted of rape. This is staggering, staggering numbers. This is
the official number according to Bill malugin Buck, this is
what we know of. Thirteen thousand murderers. Sixteen thousand rapists
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from other countries have crossed our othern border and are
now wreaking havoc on American citizens. I mean, I knew
the number was high, probably Buck, but I never would
have believed that it was this high when Trump has
been saying they are clearing out their prisons and sending
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many of their worst on the march to America. Thirteen
thousand illegals who have been convicted of homicide, sixteen thousand
convicted of rape, and that is a pretty unbelievable Trump
has commented on this, Buck said, shared these numbers and said,
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Kamala's open border. Nobody who has allowed this to happen
to our country is fit to be president of the
United States. Bad timing for her to show up at
the border today after not going for four years. Why
didn't she release these numbers earlier? That is directly from Trump.
He also says she should immediately cancel her news conference
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because she has failed. And those are Trump commentary.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
If we had control of our border and control of
all points supports of entry, you know people are flying
into the country from these places too. Not a single
criminal should be able to enter the United States period.
There should there should If you have a criminal, a
serious violent criminal record, there should be no mechanism for you.
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You flying from an airport, we go up, Sorry, not
allowed you come to the border, We go up, sorry,
not allowed. Tens of thousands of them coming into the
country while Joe and Kamala are asleep at the wheel.
Actually it's worse than that. They want them to come in.
As we know, it's a huge it's a huge scandal,
a huge scandal. So uh, we'll continue to cover this
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We're joined by Jack Carr. He's a former Navy seal
sniper and now best selling author. He's got his first
non fiction book that has just come out. I've got
my copy here, targeted Beirut, the nineteen eighty three Marine
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Barracks bombing, and the untold origin story of the War
on Terror. Jack, great to have you as always.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I mean, I have to.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Say the timing here is pretty uncanny, considering you and
I are talking and the world is basically trying to
figure out if Hassan Nasralla is dead under a pile
of rubble and Beirut. This guy's been running Hasbala since
the early nineties. What do you make of it?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
That's right, Well, I started this thing about three years
ago when I pitched Simon and Schuster on the idea
of a non fiction series looking at different terrorist events
in their effect on US foreign policy, trying to capture
those strategic, operational, tactical less level lessons learned while also
humanizing these events for future generations. So that senior level
leaders know that there are impacts to the decisions they
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make thousands of miles away from the battlefield in air
conditioned offices. But yeah, I just got off a plane
from a stop on book tour and saw that Nostralla
has been apparently targeted in Beirut. And the only thing
that surprises me about that is why it has taken
so long. His predecessor was killed back in nineteen ninety two,
and he took over back then and is the secretary
General of Hesbula, And I just surprised that Israel has
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let him live this long, especially with the capabilities that
they've had for decades now. And we saw, of course
the pager and the walkie hockey, the capabilities to hit
people with those, And I'm just surprised he's still breathing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, it would know you fallow up, buck, because I
was going to say, I mean, this is bringing this
in some ways full circle.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I mean, hes Bela, your book, your book out today,
Targeted beay Root, is about what was really the greatest
loss of life terrorist attack for America before nine to eleven.
I mean, the bombing of the Marine barracks sent a
shockwave through the entirety of the West, cernainly America and
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the armed forces back in eighty three, and it was
a hesbal operation in many ways, the beginning of the
war on terror.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That's right. Yeah, two hundred and twenty marines, eighteen sailors,
three soldiers killed that day. There were others killed between
an embassy bombing which happened in April nineteen eighty three,
multiple people killed throughout that summer fall until October twenty third.
And what it did, though, is it taught Iran that
terrorism works, and it worked by using proxies. And really,
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Iran set the rules for the war on terror back then,
and it's the model and the paradigm that we've been
essentially adhering to ever since. So it's important to note
that Iran set these rules all the way back then.
And it was the largest non nuclear explosion on record
at that time in history. And it is heartbreaking, obviously.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Jack, you obviously have to rip many of your stories
from the headlines the Terminal List best selling book series.
When you saw that Israel had managed to explode pagers,
walkie talkies, among other things of Hesbola, did you think
to yourself, Man that's a heck of a plot point
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to even be contemplating that they would have that kind
of intelligence capabilities. And how much given what's going on
right now with Iran and all the craziness going on
in the world, for you trying to think up different storylines,
does part of you say, man, you know what, the
truth is stranger than any fiction I could almost come
up with.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, for the past eight years, that had certainly come
to be true. If you'd written some of this stuff
back before twenty sixteen, people would have put you in
the science fiction category, wouldn't have believed that you couldn't
have carried all your readers along with a lot of
the things that have happened both in domestic politics here
in the United States and around the world. But this
pager operation follow on a sack through another communication device,
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absolutely remarkable, will be studied for decades, probably centuries to come,
and really highlights just the reach of Israeli intelligence services
if it is them. Of course they have not claimed
responsibility for it, but it's what we call an upstream disruption,
meaning you're messing with something before it gets into the
hands of the enemy, and in this case, it either
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means that they got into these things somehow somewhere in
the ply chain disrupted as supply chain, or years and
years and years ago they created some sort of a
company that would allow them to do this and choose
the time and the place to detonate, so absolutely remarkable
and force the end back in nineteen ninety six, back
when you carried it around a very large cell phone, and
when it broke, you took it into a place to
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get repaired. And they took out a Hamas bomber and
it was the engineer. It took him out nineteen ninety six,
gave him a colleague, put that to his ear and
took his head off. Jack.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
There's going to be a lot of analysis and thinking
over the week and on what comes next, whether Nosraala
is dead or not. I think the confirmation that they
were going for him and Nosrala is effectively ahead of
state in Lebanon, meaning he runs the country, whether they
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you know, whatever his title may be, he's the most
powerful figure in that country and has been for some time.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Do you see this as likely spiraling into something bigger?
I mean, this is always the concern we talk about
this particular conflict in the Middle East, involving all of
the enemies of Israel, or do you think that Israel
is essentially letting its enemies know, whatever you think you're
going to do, we will make it so that the
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cost is so high not worth it for you.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's the real question, especially when it comes to a
model that was already in place, particularly with hostages, in
that Israel would trade quite a few over a thousand
prisoners that they had for one Israeli soldier, and that
happened back in twenty eleven that released Sinwar, who of
course is the head of Hamas in Gaza, along with
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over one thousand other terrorists. So that's the real, real question,
the ethical and moral side of it versus the logical
side of it. To reset these rules, reset some of
these paradigms that the enemy ran through, has blood through
Hamas through other proxies have been playing by since the
since the early eighties. But it's definitely the signals a
shift in that there was, as horrible as it is
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to say, an acceptable level of violence on both sides.
Meaning if a certain number of Israelis were killed, a
certain number of people in Gazo, West Bank or in
Lebanon were killed. There was a there was an acceptable
level that wouldn't necessitate an invasion by either side or
an escalation of the conflict into the larger regional war,
and I think that has shifted and Israel sent that
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message with pagers with the walkie talkies. There's another operation
that happened almost three weeks ago, but they conducted a
special Operations mission into Syria. I think they killed eighteen people,
dozens wounded. They were hitting a scientific research center in Syria,
captured two to four. I don't have exact reporting, but
two to four Iranians were captured from that site and
they tried to vombit from the air as also a
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precision gathered munitions factory, but they couldn't get deep enough
with the bomb's missiles to do damage to the actual
facility undergrounds. Though special operations forces go in blow it
up from the inside. But what was interesting about this
is that they used drones as a blocking force. Where
we would use rangers to block any reactionary forces coming
in from the outside, they used drones to do that
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in a highly successful special operations mission. So with all
of these things and now targeting and Israala, the other
attacks that they set in motion into Lebanon over the
past few days. I think they're signaling a shift in
what was once an acceptable level of violence to both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Breaking news.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
By the way, British nationals in Lebanon should leave now,
you should take the next available flight. We're working to
increase capacity and secure seats for British nationals to leave.
That is the government of England telling everybody in that
country to get out. That is a sign that things
are going to get really rough.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm curious this is your first nonfiction book. You've had
incredible success writing fiction, and again the book is targeted
Beirut nineteen eighty three Marine Barracks bombing, the untold origin
story of the War on Terror. How was it different
to write fiction versus nonfiction? Which did you prefer? Did
they feel different to you? Did you have to work
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different muscles to tell this story compared to the stories
that you've told before.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
You definitely feel a heavy year weight with this meaning
in the fiction in the thriller is the James Rees series.
If I get something wrong, because I do leave a
lot of history into those thrillers, but if I get
something wrong. I can just say, hey, it's fiction. You
don't have that luxury. You can't do that has to
be right. There are people still alive who responded to
this bombing who're digging their buddies out of that rubble
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with their bare hand, kbar, knives, shovel, maybe pro bar
if they can find one. There are people that dug
themselves up out of that rubble that day. There are
family members who've had an empty seat at the dinner
table ever since October twenty third of nineteen eighty three.
I talked to as many of them as I possibly could,
over a thousand letters that people had sent home, audio
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tapes that they'd sent home, recordings of their voice, so
you could really get to know these people who are
on the ground there to humanize this. So you owe
it to them to be as thoughtful, as respectful as
you possibly can, and to really get it right. You
have to. There's no leeway. So I'd say there is
a lot more, a lot more weight on your shoulders
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when you're doing the nonfiction side of the house than
when you're doing the fiction side of the house, just
out of respect for those who lived through this bombing
and those who did not.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, Jack, we appreciate the time your book. The Terminal
List have been amazing that entire series, and we encourage
people to check out this first nonfiction book, targeted bea Root,
the eighty three story of that attack and the origin
of the war on Terror. Look forward to seeing you
again in person. We appreciate you spending the time with us,
and I know our listeners really appreciate the books you're writing.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Thanks so much for having me on this. This ended
up being a lot more timely than I suspected three
years ago, unfortunately, but it's out there and I was
humbling to tell these stories and be trusted by the
baby veterans to tell this story.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Thank you so much. Jack, Always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Take care buck on a positive side. Thought of negativity
out there, but you know, we try to be bright,
shining rays of sunshine every single day for three hours
and that carried through last night when the Giants lost
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Speaker 4 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
You know, I gotta jump into here for a second, everybody,
as we're closing up because we're about to talk about
a p Diddy story and is changing in front of
the camera as I'm like, WHOA Clay a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I was worried about the TV cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I wasn't even thinking about the vip clay and butt cameras,
So you might have gotten a little bit more skinned
sure anticipating on the shirt change there.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I don't know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No, no, no baby oil that we're aware of. There's
no baby oil involved. So that's a good thing. Uh
oh man. But we bring this up because P Diddy
and the raid of Sean Combe's aka P Diddy puff
Daddy in his house, they found a thousand bottles roughly
of baby oil. And I mean, honest, honest question, I
(32:54):
don't think we I don't think we have baby oil
a bottle in this house.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like I don't know to say nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean, I think if you don't have any babies,
you tend not to have any baby oil. I don't
even remember having baby oil when we had babies, I personally.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So what's funny is that that P Diddy's lawyer, P
Diddy is being held without bail, mind you over all
the modes SBF, yes, yeah, uh so he's being held
his lawyer when people because people are just like what's
going on with that?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Like why do you have all the baby oil, and
his lawyer said this on on camera, like yesterday or
the day before, playing.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
How do you explain the baby oil in the lubricunts?
A thousand bottles of baby oil?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't think it was a thousand. I think it
was a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I mean there's a Costco right down the street.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I think Americans buy in bulk, as we know, and you.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Know this is this is consensual adults do. But consensual
adults do.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You know. We we can't get to puritanical in this
country to think that somehow sex is a bad thing,
because if it was, if you no more.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
People, Clay, Yeah, that's the lawyer being a slippery fellow.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, well said thank you and Costco.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
According to the Twitter account Unusual Wales, Costco has responded
to the Sean diddy Combe story and said none of
the company's US locations carry baby oil, so basically, don't
try to bring Costco into this mess. Okay, you got
to explain the thousand bottles of baby oil to the jury.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, that is really funny that Costco felt compelled to
weigh in. I also love aggressive lawyering. Look, when you're
an advocate, sometimes you got a tough client. People like
to say being a lawyer would be great if you
could eliminate the clients. I don't know what p didd
he's paying this guy. I'm sure it's a lot of money.
They say that they want to trial rapidly, but the
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fact that he's now there with SBF. They did let
Mayor Eric Adams off without any charges being brought, I mean,
without any bail being required, and he got to keep
his passport is my understanding. But New York City's a mess.
And remember we just barely avoided. Trump was scheduled for
sentencing on September eighteenth, So this thing just passed by
(35:22):
the skin of his teeth that he avoided potentially getting
sentenced as well for this crazy, ridiculous state charges city
charges they brought in a New York state law. So
all of this adding up together is just bonkers. And
we were just talking with Jack Carr, who's got wildly
successful terminal List series. But Buck, the amount of craziness
(35:45):
that happens every single day that you and I end
up talking about is almost impossible to predict. And by
the time we come back on Monday, we will be
thirty six days away from the election, and we will
enter October and it will be less than a month
and a lot of you are already voting across the nation.
I mean, what could an October surprise even be at
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this point to be worthy of the name for Cobra
surprise given what we have seen. I knowed you you
almost don't want to think about it because it would
have to be like so crazy. But we have had
the most tumultuous election cycle already I can remember. Nothing
has been a candidate dropping out, two assassination attempts, a
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former president getting shot, and we have seen nothing as
crazy as this. And we're entering the final stretch here
and a person who didn't get a single vote as
a nominee of a major party to try to be
elected presidents crazy. I will be in Tusca, Lusa, Buck,
you have been there before. It should be phenomenal. Georgia, Alabama.
Donald Trump will be with me, and we're gonna be
(36:49):
with Donald Trump on this show soon. Should be a
while to weekend. We look forward to talking to all
of you on Monday. Thanks for hanging with me.
Third hour of play, and Bucket's going right now, we
have some big breaking news from overseas. Here in the
final hour of the program on this Friday in IDF
is really defense forces strike and airstrike on residential buildings
near Beirut, the capital of Lebanon, that it has been confirmed,
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were intended to target Hassan Nosrala. Hassan Nosrala is the
secretary general of Hesbelah, the head of Hesbolah, the terrorist
organization that runs Lebanon and has been at war with
Israel for decades and has been firing artillery shells and
(00:51):
rockets and mortars on and off, day in and day
out now since the October seventh Hamas attack on Israel.
What we are still finding out as we're speaking to you.
It is confirmed and there's video in the New York
Times is reporting everyone's reporting on this right now confirm it.
There was a major Israeli airstrike on these civilian these
(01:15):
civilian buildings. Because the IDF is saying that effectively Hasible
as central headquarters was beneath the buildings. We know from
Hamas and hesbel A tactics that this is right in
line with what they do they put military targets. This
is a violation of the Geneva Convention, the laws of
war by the way. They put military sites under civilian targets,
(01:38):
so then if you actually hit the military target, you're
also going to hit the civilian site. They do this
with mosques, with schools, with hospitals, They've done it with
some of these buildings outside of Bay Route. This is
in a kind of like a suburb of Bay Root,
if you will. And Clay, what we're just starting to
find out is do you have it confirmed?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, well, no, I think we need to be careful.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
There are reports and I want to read what the
what the latest things that are out there are. Again,
this is probably not going to shock you, certainly, but
I don't even think it will shock many of our
audience out there. We know that the heads of Hesbola
were meeting in Beirut and that there was an attack
on them shortly after NETANYAHUO finished speaking. There have been
(02:24):
reports that the heads of Hesbol.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Real quick Nenya, who's speaking at the United Nations General
Assembly in New York right now, so almost simultaneously he's
speaking at the you in General Assembly, there's this strike.
Keep going click so there are conflicting reports about whether Nazurala,
that basically the head of the Hesbola has been killed
or not. Several different news stories out conflicting reports. The
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Iranian embassy has put out a statement saying there has
been a dangerous escalation that changes the rules of the game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Just be aware.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Also, the alert level at every Israeli embassy around the
world has been raised to the highest levels. But that
would suggest that there may have been Certainly the strike
killed a lot of people, but they may have taken
out many more of the top leaders. But that is
what we know for sure. Some reports that some of
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those top leaders are dead, some people saying they're alive.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We still are waiting.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay, let's just put this in a context for a second.
It was just a week ago when roughly when Israel
put in action in operation that exploding pagers and radios,
operation that took out thousands of Hesbala fighters with severe injuries,
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killed a few dozen of them. But it had showed
that Israel had managed to get into the supply chain
specifically for Hesbela terrorist operations and effectively told them all
or showed them all you are safe nowhere and we
can get you anywhere now after that, which is play
(04:14):
one of the most uh incredible intelligence espionage sabotage operations
honestly in history. I mean, I've never heard of anything
like that before, and and I'm pretty familiar with the
history of intel and espionage. Now looks like they may
they may have decapitated with one strike the leadership of
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Hesbelah and possibly even killed Hassan Nasralla, who has been
running Hesbelah and truly Lebanon for decades, a mortal enemy
of the Israeli state and the Jewish people devoted to
the destruction of Israel, obsessed with it really, and Clay
(04:58):
very involved with Hesbela and Iranian operations in Syria, very
close relationship with the Mullahs in Iran. Really, Hesbela is
a proxy of the Iranian Mulla's and they turned through
that Lebanon into essentially a client state of the Iranian
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regime right on Israel's doorstep. Now, this doesn't end the conflict.
In fact, this may very well dramatically escalate it. But
to me, this shows and we can play what Nennyahu
said today, this has cut seventeen but this shows that
Israel is not holding back anymore when it comes to
its security. Defense doesn't care what anybody outside externally is
(05:44):
going to say and criticize. Here's what nen Yahoo's talking
about today at the United Nations playoff.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Israel seeks peace, Israel yearns for peace. Israel has made
peace and will make peace again. Yet we face savage
and MMI who seek our annihilation, and we must defend
ourselves against these savage murderers. Our enemies seek not only
to destroy us, they seek to destroy our common civilization
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and return all of us to a dark age of
tyranny and terror.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Clay, this is like Israel had it's nine to eleven,
and they are responding the way that we respond that
after nine to eleven, which is you want to try
to destroy our civilization, we will do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I think we should directly connect because some of
you are going to say, Okay, we got an American
presidential election in thirty eight days, whatever the math is,
why are we focused on what's going on in the
Middle East? That is a common complaint might be also
complaints about Ukraine. This one directly relates to the United
States right now, Buck, because Iran which funds Hezbolah and
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funds Hamas to be proxy warring against Israel, is also
trying to kill Donald Trump. So this is part of
a larger global conflagration that has emerged where Iran is
funding everything that goes on with Hamas, They're funding everything
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that goes on with Hesbola. They are simultaneously trying to
put their own nuclear ambitions complete them right to be
able to have nuclear weapons, and they are trying to
kill President Trump. And so whatever is happening in the
Middle East is not really divorced at all, to say
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nothing of the fact that Netanyahu is speaking at the
UN in New York City. But Buck, this is in
no way divorced from the current American political climate where
everywhere Trump goes right now, Iran's trying to kill him.
And their reports and we haven't even talked about this,
but I bet you saw them, And I think what's
worth mentioning that Trump isn't even able to do the
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rallies he wants to do because they are too concerned
about whether or not the government, your secret service, my
secret service can actually.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Keep him safe.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this is the world in which we are living
right now, and Buck with the one year anniversary of
October seventh, basically a week away. I don't think it's
crazy at all to think that something in the Middle
East could be one of these massive October surprises, either
something happening there or a terror attack that comes to
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our shore and something that they may happen here.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So there's an important reality that I think is dawning
on the enemies of Israel in the aftermath of October seventh, Clay,
and it is that there's this standard national security analysis
that goes, oh, well, they'll ratchet up as you ratchet up,
or this will escalate, and then you'll escalate. The truth
(08:52):
is that Israel militarily, when it comes to the use
of force, is in a different league, a different tier
from its enemies. But because of humanitarian concerns, because of
the fundamental and core decency of the Israeli state and
the Israeli people, they are proportionate. I think Israel has
(09:16):
decided post October seventh. Look, we're going to still try
to abide by the laws of war as well as
any military force that is under threat will or can.
But we are showing now, meaning speaking from the Israeli perspective.
They are showing the enemies of Israel that we will
go for the jugular wherever you are, whoever you think
(09:38):
you are. If you're going to be plotting terrorist attacks
against the Israeli state, if you think you're going to
hide in some building somewhere, we are going to blow
you up. We are going to kill you and your
bodyguards and your advisors, and we're not going to think
twice about it. This the escalation in a sense, is
the Israelis deciding the gloves come off. And that's what
(10:01):
we're seeing with Hesbela, That's what we saw on Gaza,
and so you know this factor's in. You know, if
people keep saying maybe Iran's going to do something really big,
I don't think they want to see what the Israelis
would do in response. Given the mindset of the Israeli
people right now.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Not only that, I mean, what are you thinking if
you're Hesbla. To your point, Buck, they blew up your pagers,
they blew up your walkie talkies, they took out a
ton of the top leadership last week, and now they're
supposed to be a super secret meeting going on with
Hesbola and Beirut, and they may have blown up that
entire meeting. You want to talk about your infrastructure being corrupted.
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Israel knows better than a lot of the members of
Hesbola do what Hesbola is trying to do from one
moment to another, and I would think that's also a
lesson both for Iran but also Hamas right now is
on the back burner. There's been very little talk about
what's going on there. Instead, the war has moved to
southern Lebanon and it has turned into a turned into
(11:00):
huge mess. We'll see if we get any confirmation and data.
But again, the way that the people are responding makes
me feel like this may very well have been a
successful decapitation of Hesbol's main leadership, and we will see
what sort of response is coming, if any, given what
we've seen with the pager and radio operation.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I mean, if you're asking me right now, do I
think that got Hassan Usralla, I think the answer is yes,
we don't know yet. We shall see and maybe he's wounded,
maybe he wasn't killed in the strike. But this is
this is sending literal shockwaves through this suburb of Beirut,
and you know, there's always this sense of, oh, well,
(11:41):
we could have more escalation in the add least. I
just think the idea f in the Israelis. You'll notice it,
like Biden and all that they're not even Israel's just
doing what it has to do to defend itself. There's
none of this oh you know, this kind of mother
may I with the US administration right now, that's not happening.
And I think the fact that Nan Yahoo's giving a
(12:03):
fiery speech at the UN right around the time that
a strike like this is happening just goes to show
you that, I mean, after any people anywhere in the
world who suffered through what happened on October seventh would
feel morally justified in doing whatever it takes to secure
themselves and their people.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
At this point.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And that's where That's where the Israelis are, and that's
where we were after nine to eleven, which is how
I've thought about this all along. That's where people could
you know, there were complaints about what are we doing
in Afghanistan and other civilian casualties and everything else. Well,
we're going after the enemy. So I will see if
we get the confirmation this by the way, We've got
Jack Carr joining us in just a little bit about
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really in many ways the start of Hesba law as
a global terrorist entity or it's it's it's its biggest
operation in all time, which was, you know, on a
global level. What got it really a lot of attention
was the bombing of the marine barrack, which killed around
three hundred Americans two hundred and eighty something. I remember,
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and if I'm not mistaken, Buck, I think one of
the attacks on Hesbola by Israel in the last week
killed a guy with seven million dollars bounty on his
head from that nineteen eighty three bombing that he had
been wanted for nearly forty some odd years.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Now Israel is settling scores. Go ahead, Yeah, Israel for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And we're talking about what Netanyahu said at the UN
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Kamala is down at the border or will be soon
in Arizona. And and I wanted to hit you guys
with this. This was just shared by the incredibly good
looking film Alugion, who also happens to have fantastic information,
(15:09):
particularly as it deals with border related issues. These are
real numbers. Thirteen thousand that we know of. Thirteen thousand
illegal immigrants have entered this country who have been convicted
of homicide in other countries. Sixteen thousand illegal immigrants that
(15:33):
we know of have entered this country who have been
convicted of rape. This is staggering, staggering numbers. This is
the official number according to Bill malugin Buck, this is
what we know of. Thirteen thousand murderers. Sixteen thousand rapists
(15:57):
from other countries have crossed our othern border and are
now wreaking havoc on American citizens. I mean, I knew
the number was high, probably Buck, but I never would
have believed that it was this high when Trump has
been saying they are clearing out their prisons and sending
(16:17):
many of their worst on the march to America. Thirteen
thousand illegals who have been convicted of homicide, sixteen thousand
convicted of rape, and that is a pretty unbelievable Trump
has commented on this, Buck said, shared these numbers and said,
(16:40):
Kamala's open border. Nobody who has allowed this to happen
to our country is fit to be president of the
United States. Bad timing for her to show up at
the border today after not going for four years. Why
didn't she release these numbers earlier? That is directly from Trump.
He also says she should immediately cancel her news conference
(17:01):
because she has failed. And those are Trump commentary.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
If we had control of our border and control of
all points supports of entry, you know people are flying
into the country from these places too. Not a single
criminal should be able to enter the United States period.
There should there should If you have a criminal, a
serious violent criminal record, there should be no mechanism for you.
(17:31):
You flying from an airport, we go up, Sorry, not
allowed you come to the border, We go up, sorry,
not allowed. Tens of thousands of them coming into the
country while Joe and Kamala are asleep at the wheel.
Actually it's worse than that. They want them to come in.
As we know, it's a huge it's a huge scandal,
a huge scandal. So uh, we'll continue to cover this
(17:52):
and talk to or bring you all these facts, and
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We're joined by Jack Carr. He's a former Navy seal
sniper and now best selling author. He's got his first
non fiction book that has just come out. I've got
my copy here, targeted Beirut, the nineteen eighty three Marine
(19:15):
Barracks bombing, and the untold origin story of the War
on Terror. Jack, great to have you as always.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I mean, I have to.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Say the timing here is pretty uncanny, considering you and
I are talking and the world is basically trying to
figure out if Hassan Nasralla is dead under a pile
of rubble and Beirut. This guy's been running Hasbala since
the early nineties. What do you make of it?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
That's right, Well, I started this thing about three years
ago when I pitched Simon and Schuster on the idea
of a non fiction series looking at different terrorist events
in their effect on US foreign policy, trying to capture
those strategic, operational, tactical less level lessons learned while also
humanizing these events for future generations. So that senior level
leaders know that there are impacts to the decisions they
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make thousands of miles away from the battlefield in air
conditioned offices. But yeah, I just got off a plane
from a stop on book tour and saw that Nostralla
has been apparently targeted in Beirut. And the only thing
that surprises me about that is why it has taken
so long. His predecessor was killed back in nineteen ninety two,
and he took over back then and is the secretary
General of Hesbula, And I just surprised that Israel has
(20:26):
let him live this long, especially with the capabilities that
they've had for decades now. And we saw, of course
the pager and the walkie hockey, the capabilities to hit
people with those, And I'm just surprised he's still breathing.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, it would know you fallow up, buck, because I
was going to say, I mean, this is bringing this
in some ways full circle.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I mean, hes Bela, your book, your book out today,
Targeted beay Root, is about what was really the greatest
loss of life terrorist attack for America before nine to eleven.
I mean, the bombing of the Marine barracks sent a
shockwave through the entirety of the West, cernainly America and
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the armed forces back in eighty three, and it was
a hesbal operation in many ways, the beginning of the
war on terror.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
That's right. Yeah, two hundred and twenty marines, eighteen sailors,
three soldiers killed that day. There were others killed between
an embassy bombing which happened in April nineteen eighty three,
multiple people killed throughout that summer fall until October twenty third.
And what it did, though, is it taught Iran that
terrorism works, and it worked by using proxies. And really,
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Iran set the rules for the war on terror back then,
and it's the model and the paradigm that we've been
essentially adhering to ever since. So it's important to note
that Iran set these rules all the way back then.
And it was the largest non nuclear explosion on record
at that time in history. And it is heartbreaking, obviously.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Jack, you obviously have to rip many of your stories
from the headlines the Terminal List best selling book series.
When you saw that Israel had managed to explode pagers,
walkie talkies, among other things of Hesbola, did you think
to yourself, Man that's a heck of a plot point
(22:20):
to even be contemplating that they would have that kind
of intelligence capabilities. And how much given what's going on
right now with Iran and all the craziness going on
in the world, for you trying to think up different storylines,
does part of you say, man, you know what, the
truth is stranger than any fiction I could almost come
up with.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah, for the past eight years, that had certainly come
to be true. If you'd written some of this stuff
back before twenty sixteen, people would have put you in
the science fiction category, wouldn't have believed that you couldn't
have carried all your readers along with a lot of
the things that have happened both in domestic politics here
in the United States and around the world. But this
pager operation follow on a sack through another communication device,
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absolutely remarkable, will be studied for decades, probably centuries to come,
and really highlights just the reach of Israeli intelligence services
if it is them. Of course they have not claimed
responsibility for it, but it's what we call an upstream disruption,
meaning you're messing with something before it gets into the
hands of the enemy, and in this case, it either
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means that they got into these things somehow somewhere in
the ply chain disrupted as supply chain, or years and
years and years ago they created some sort of a
company that would allow them to do this and choose
the time and the place to detonate, so absolutely remarkable
and force the end back in nineteen ninety six, back
when you carried it around a very large cell phone, and
when it broke, you took it into a place to
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get repaired. And they took out a Hamas bomber and
it was the engineer. It took him out nineteen ninety six,
gave him a colleague, put that to his ear and
took his head off. Jack.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
There's going to be a lot of analysis and thinking
over the week and on what comes next, whether Nosraala
is dead or not. I think the confirmation that they
were going for him and Nosrala is effectively ahead of
state in Lebanon, meaning he runs the country, whether they
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you know, whatever his title may be, he's the most
powerful figure in that country and has been for some time.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Do you see this as likely spiraling into something bigger?
I mean, this is always the concern we talk about
this particular conflict in the Middle East, involving all of
the enemies of Israel, or do you think that Israel
is essentially letting its enemies know, whatever you think you're
going to do, we will make it so that the
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cost is so high not worth it for you.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
That's the real question, especially when it comes to a
model that was already in place, particularly with hostages, in
that Israel would trade quite a few over a thousand
prisoners that they had for one Israeli soldier, and that
happened back in twenty eleven that released Sinwar, who of
course is the head of Hamas in Gaza, along with
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over one thousand other terrorists. So that's the real, real question,
the ethical and moral side of it versus the logical
side of it. To reset these rules, reset some of
these paradigms that the enemy ran through, has blood through
Hamas through other proxies have been playing by since the
since the early eighties. But it's definitely the signals a
shift in that there was, as horrible as it is
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to say, an acceptable level of violence on both sides.
Meaning if a certain number of Israelis were killed, a
certain number of people in Gazo, West Bank or in
Lebanon were killed. There was a there was an acceptable
level that wouldn't necessitate an invasion by either side or
an escalation of the conflict into the larger regional war,
and I think that has shifted and Israel sent that
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message with pagers with the walkie talkies. There's another operation
that happened almost three weeks ago, but they conducted a
special Operations mission into Syria. I think they killed eighteen people,
dozens wounded. They were hitting a scientific research center in Syria,
captured two to four. I don't have exact reporting, but
two to four Iranians were captured from that site and
they tried to vombit from the air as also a
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precision gathered munitions factory, but they couldn't get deep enough
with the bomb's missiles to do damage to the actual
facility undergrounds. Though special operations forces go in blow it
up from the inside. But what was interesting about this
is that they used drones as a blocking force. Where
we would use rangers to block any reactionary forces coming
in from the outside, they used drones to do that
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in a highly successful special operations mission. So with all
of these things and now targeting and Israala, the other
attacks that they set in motion into Lebanon over the
past few days. I think they're signaling a shift in
what was once an acceptable level of violence to both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Breaking news.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
By the way, British nationals in Lebanon should leave now,
you should take the next available flight. We're working to
increase capacity and secure seats for British nationals to leave.
That is the government of England telling everybody in that
country to get out. That is a sign that things
are going to get really rough.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Jack.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm curious this is your first nonfiction book. You've had
incredible success writing fiction, and again the book is targeted
Beirut nineteen eighty three Marine Barracks bombing, the untold origin
story of the War on Terror. How was it different
to write fiction versus nonfiction? Which did you prefer? Did
they feel different to you? Did you have to work
(27:39):
different muscles to tell this story compared to the stories
that you've told before.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
You definitely feel a heavy year weight with this meaning
in the fiction in the thriller is the James Rees series.
If I get something wrong, because I do leave a
lot of history into those thrillers, but if I get
something wrong. I can just say, hey, it's fiction. You
don't have that luxury. You can't do that has to
be right. There are people still alive who responded to
this bombing who're digging their buddies out of that rubble
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with their bare hand, kbar, knives, shovel, maybe pro bar
if they can find one. There are people that dug
themselves up out of that rubble that day. There are
family members who've had an empty seat at the dinner
table ever since October twenty third of nineteen eighty three.
I talked to as many of them as I possibly could,
over a thousand letters that people had sent home, audio
(28:27):
tapes that they'd sent home, recordings of their voice, so
you could really get to know these people who are
on the ground there to humanize this. So you owe
it to them to be as thoughtful, as respectful as
you possibly can, and to really get it right. You
have to. There's no leeway. So I'd say there is
a lot more, a lot more weight on your shoulders
(28:48):
when you're doing the nonfiction side of the house than
when you're doing the fiction side of the house, just
out of respect for those who lived through this bombing
and those who did not.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, Jack, we appreciate the time your book. The Terminal
List have been amazing that entire series, and we encourage
people to check out this first nonfiction book, targeted bea Root,
the eighty three story of that attack and the origin
of the war on Terror. Look forward to seeing you
again in person. We appreciate you spending the time with us,
and I know our listeners really appreciate the books you're writing.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Well.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Thanks so much for having me on this. This ended
up being a lot more timely than I suspected three
years ago, unfortunately, but it's out there and I was
humbling to tell these stories and be trusted by the
baby veterans to tell this story.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Thank you so much. Jack, Always appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
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Speaker 4 (32:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
You know, I gotta jump into here for a second, everybody,
as we're closing up because we're about to talk about
a p Diddy story and is changing in front of
the camera as I'm like, WHOA Clay a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I was worried about the TV cameras.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I wasn't even thinking about the vip clay and butt cameras,
So you might have gotten a little bit more skinned
sure anticipating on the shirt change there.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
So I don't know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
No, no, no baby oil that we're aware of. There's
no baby oil involved. So that's a good thing. Uh
oh man. But we bring this up because P Diddy
and the raid of Sean Combe's aka P Diddy puff
Daddy in his house, they found a thousand bottles roughly
of baby oil. And I mean, honest, honest question, I
(32:54):
don't think we I don't think we have baby oil
a bottle in this house.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like I don't know to say nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean, I think if you don't have any babies,
you tend not to have any baby oil. I don't
even remember having baby oil when we had babies, I personally.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
So what's funny is that that P Diddy's lawyer, P
Diddy is being held without bail, mind you over all
the modes SBF, yes, yeah, uh so he's being held
his lawyer when people because people are just like what's
going on with that?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Like why do you have all the baby oil, and
his lawyer said this on on camera, like yesterday or
the day before, playing.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
How do you explain the baby oil in the lubricunts?
A thousand bottles of baby oil?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't think it was a thousand. I think it
was a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I mean there's a Costco right down the street.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
I think Americans buy in bulk, as we know, and you.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Know this is this is consensual adults do. But consensual
adults do.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You know. We we can't get to puritanical in this
country to think that somehow sex is a bad thing,
because if it was, if you no more.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
People, Clay, Yeah, that's the lawyer being a slippery fellow.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, well said thank you and Costco.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
According to the Twitter account Unusual Wales, Costco has responded
to the Sean diddy Combe story and said none of
the company's US locations carry baby oil, so basically, don't
try to bring Costco into this mess. Okay, you got
to explain the thousand bottles of baby oil to the jury.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, that is really funny that Costco felt compelled to
weigh in. I also love aggressive lawyering. Look, when you're
an advocate, sometimes you got a tough client. People like
to say being a lawyer would be great if you
could eliminate the clients. I don't know what p didd
he's paying this guy. I'm sure it's a lot of money.
They say that they want to trial rapidly, but the
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fact that he's now there with SBF. They did let
Mayor Eric Adams off without any charges being brought, I mean,
without any bail being required, and he got to keep
his passport is my understanding. But New York City's a mess.
And remember we just barely avoided. Trump was scheduled for
sentencing on September eighteenth, So this thing just passed by
(35:22):
the skin of his teeth that he avoided potentially getting
sentenced as well for this crazy, ridiculous state charges city
charges they brought in a New York state law. So
all of this adding up together is just bonkers. And
we were just talking with Jack Carr, who's got wildly
successful terminal List series. But Buck, the amount of craziness
(35:45):
that happens every single day that you and I end
up talking about is almost impossible to predict. And by
the time we come back on Monday, we will be
thirty six days away from the election, and we will
enter October and it will be less than a month
and a lot of you are already voting across the nation.
I mean, what could an October surprise even be at
(36:07):
this point to be worthy of the name for Cobra
surprise given what we have seen. I knowed you you
almost don't want to think about it because it would
have to be like so crazy. But we have had
the most tumultuous election cycle already I can remember. Nothing
has been a candidate dropping out, two assassination attempts, a
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former president getting shot, and we have seen nothing as
crazy as this. And we're entering the final stretch here
and a person who didn't get a single vote as
a nominee of a major party to try to be
elected presidents crazy. I will be in Tusca, Lusa, Buck,
you have been there before. It should be phenomenal. Georgia, Alabama.
Donald Trump will be with me, and we're gonna be
(36:49):
with Donald Trump on this show soon. Should be a
while to weekend. We look forward to talking to all
of you on Monday. Thanks for hanging with me.
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