October 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Author and J6 investigative journalist, Julie Kelly, talks to Clay and Buck about Jack Smith's attempt at an October Surprise filing, which has fallen flat, without any new information. Politico says JD Vance's beard turns off women, but they like Tim Walz's bulging eyes. MSNBC goes crazy over Jack Smith. Has Doug Emhoff ever hit Kamala? More Helene callers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we're joined by Julie Kelly Declassified is her substack,
which you can subscribe to. You know, Julie just want
to say before we dive into the latest law fair shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
You know, we have spent.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really the entire show on what we think is actually
the most important story in the country today. I know
you agree, which is what's going on in this aftermath
of Helene and the relief efforts.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But we didn't want to leave it out there.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, we don't want anyone to say, oh, well,
they're not talking about the big Jack Smith bomb that
was dropped. You know, they're avoided. So of course, you know,
we will address this now, you know, I guess the
first way to do it. And just to be clear
that the Democrat media thinks it's the most important thing
in the whole country, right, I mean, they're far more important.
Clay and I were reading the headlines New York Times,
(00:52):
Washington Post, much more concerned with Jack Smith's latest thing
than what's going on in the you know, Carolina as
any area is impacted by the hurricane. But okay, so
they're saying this, we have an election coming up. Talk
to us anything new in this and what's why is
this supposed to be in October.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Surprise, because there isn't a lot new in here. A
lot of this has been sort of regurgitated from I
want to make sure my mic is on okay, good,
regurgitated from both the House impeachment against Donald Trump for
JAY six and of course the JA six House Committee report.
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But what this does and how I have described it
is Jack Smith's opening arguments for a case that will
never make it to trial. This week watered down and
in some instances still unlawful. For account. Indictment that Jack
Smith has against Donald Trump will never survive a Supreme
(01:54):
Court test again, both for immunity and the Fisher decision,
which is we've talked about fifteen twelve C two the
Supreme Court overturning how the DOJ has applied that post
on run statute. It represents two of the four counts
in this indictment. This is never going to trial even
if Donald Trump loses. So this is his opening argument.
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Jack Smith is a partisan political hack, a former Obama,
a DOJ official who also has been overturned by the
Supreme Court nine to nothing. In the Robert Donald conviction,
and he's he's got a record of losing, so this
is his only opportunity to not just salvage this j
(02:38):
six case in the public square, but also try to
salvage the remaining shards of his decaying reputation. So that
is what we're seeing from what I call this dirty dossier.
With the Steele dossier in twenty sixteen, now we've got
Jack Smith dossier. But to your point, the media has
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they are acting like it was Christmas Day yesterday. Jake
Tapper's on CNN, He's waving the one hundred and sixty five
pages around. You've got the analysts there and the commentators
talking about how this will be a fatal blow to
Donald Trump's candidacy, that he will not win reelection because
of this issue. But again, it also gives cover for
the real scandals and the real crises, which is of
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course the devastation, the apocalyptic images that are coming out
of North Carolina, and also the other crises that we have,
you know, war in the Middle East on a few
different fronts, and open southern border with criminal migrants coming
across into our country. So this is a perfect cover
for the media, the Democrats, and the Harris Walls ticket
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to pivot away from the real issues to again this
four hour disturbance almost now four years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know, I love this, Julie, because I was out
watching eighth grade football last night. My phone blows up
with Oh my goodness, can you I thought, Oh, what's
going on here? I go look, and I'm like, this
story is not going to last twenty four hours. And
it's interesting this story came out and Donald Trump today
actually in the betting markets, which I like to follow,
(04:11):
took the lead over Kamala. Harris so Buck and I
have been talking about New York Times, Washington Post. It's
their top four or five stories. Meanwhile, people are dying
in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina with the storm
that came through that Biden and Kamala can't seem to
respond to.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But it landed.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
To use a phrase from the Obama administration, really like
it nothing burger. And then they're going to desperately try
to make it happen. And then I'll tell you what's
gonna happen in twenty four hours. Even the ardent left
is not going to be fueling the clicks and the
ratings that they need, and it's going to be over
and I can only imagine. I think the last time
we had you on Julie, I was saying, I want
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a Jack Smith cam for election night if Trump wins.
This guy has spent years of his life now trying
to get Trump, and Trump is actually gonna end up
president United States. All of his work is going to
go up and smoke and he's basically his career's over.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, let's hope his career is over, and let's hope
that there is accountability because what this document Clay represents,
what he filed yesterday is the most brazen, egregious example
of DOJ interference, not just interference in a presidential campaign,
our presidential race, but doing using the full weight of
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the Department of Justice, the most powerful law enforcement agency
in the country, to destroy Donald Trump's chances at winning. Now,
to your point, I don't think it is. I think
that this will sort of fade away except at CNN,
at MSNBC, in the Washington Post, in New York Times.
But look what you've got today, Kamala Harris with Liz
(05:48):
Cheney at an event in Wisconsin. What are they going
to talk about not the issues that people of Wisconsin
care about. They're going to talk about this fake threat
that Donald Trump poses to democracy, whatever that means. How
we almost you know, ended our country, as Joe Biden
calls it, We almost lost everything, Joe Biden says about
January sixth, and that is what they will be talking about.
(06:12):
That's all they've got. And so, but there's going to
be more to come. This is only the first hit
out of this motion. There also will be an appendix
that will be unsealed in the next probably week or
so that will give more witness testimony disclosing grand jury
testimony FBI three O two. So they're going to keep
(06:33):
piling on. Judge Chuckkin is going to allow Jacksmith to
do this and really denying Donald Trump his due process rights.
While this is an opening argument on paper, if it
was at trial, Donald Trump would be allowed immediately to respond,
cross examine witness, et cetera. None of that is happening now.
It is not just election interference another DOJ, just disparagement
(07:00):
of the law of due process, the rule of law,
and denial of constitutional protections that we all have, including
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her substack where she
does a lot of great work on this issue.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Julie.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
If Trump wins, I think we all know that this
goes away as it should if for some reason Heaven forbid,
but it could happen Kamala Harris becomes president. What do
you see as the future of the Jack Smith prosecution
based on what we now know the Supreme Court weighing
in Jack Smith's dirty dossier? Is it really just about
(07:39):
the election and the politics and the election interference or
do you really think that Jack Smith is going to
try to lock Donald Trump up if he loses.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think he will still try. I know we've been
talking about this for a few years since Jack Smith
was appointed. Now November of twenty twenty two. So Donald
Trump loses, yes, they will continue the January sixth case.
It will never survive, as I said, the Supreme Court
where it will end up again because it will be
another immunity question, will never survive and appeal on immunity
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protections and the fissure ruling. So this indictment, now, he
could bring superseding indictments, especially based on you know some
day that Donald Trump maybe did after this election, they're
going to keep piling on. But I'll take this even
a step further. If Donald Trump wins, you can guarantee
that Tanya Chuckkin will still hold some sort of hearing
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on this case in November or December, before Donald Trump
is sworn into office, some sort of hearing to keep
this matter alive until the very last minute, force Donald
Trump and his lawyers back in her courtroom over this
motion or a few other motions that were still expecting.
(08:56):
So they are They're going to wait till the very
last minute if Donald Trump wins, to keep this hanging
over his head as this cloud that we saw the
same thing in twenty sixteen with the made up Trump
Russia election collusion hoax. Also, we still have what's happening
in Florida judging name Cannon in July dismissing that indictment
(09:18):
based on her findings that Jack Smith was unconstitutionally appointed.
That also will get to the Supreme Court if Donald
Trump loses. It still will make its way to the
Supreme Court. And I'm pretty sure, based on comments that
we saw from Justice Clarence Thomas and others, that the
Supreme Court would eventually conclude that he his appointment violated
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the appointment's clause of the Constitution. So there's still a
lot more grist that Jack Smith can squeeze out of
this Donald Trump winning or losing. But they are not
going to give this up anytime soon, and will not
give it up easily regardless of the outcome of the election.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Julie, do you get the sense that much of this
law fair blew up in their face They thought that
My calculus on this, and I think Buck would sign off,
is that they thought, oh, this will strengthen Trump with
right wing voters, but it's going to be ultimately damning
for him in the general election. Instead, it seems to
(10:17):
have basically strengthened Trump across the board. And that's why
I'm a little bit surprised. This feels like such a hell, Mary,
And if anything, if you asked me to analyze the
politics of this, not the law, just the politics, because
I think the law, as I've said for some time
with you and on this show, is total bunk, right,
It's just crap.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But I think it.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Actually works to Trump's favor that they try to dredge
this back up once October comes up, because it shows
that ultimately this isn't really anything other than a political
move which benefits Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right, I definitely agree that the law fair, whether it's
from Jack Smith, whether it's in Georgia, from Fanny Willis,
whether it's what's happening in New York in those cases,
has completely backfired, blew up in the face of the
Democratic Party. I mean, look, you had Joe Biden bullied
out of this race because Donald Trump was going to
(11:13):
beat him despite what Joe Biden and his White House
and his agencies and his General counsel we know in
cahoots trying to concoct the classified documents skeep They had
all the levers of power, right, and they sent DOJ
prosecutors to Georgia, and they were working with the team
in New York. And so all of this blew up
(11:35):
to the extent that Joe Biden had to pull out
of the race because Trump was so was going to
beat him so badly. So you would think that they
would learn their lesson, but they really have not. And
again this is cover for the failed Biden Kamala Harris administration.
These crises blowing up not just in the country but
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around the world, and this is all they can hang
their hat on is Jayson. So Jack Smith swoops in
once again, gives them an assist, gives them this dirty dossier,
and gives them more talking points to avoid discussing the
real issues that Americans care about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Julie Kelly, check out your classified on substack. Julie, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Thanks guys.
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Speaker 1 (13:34):
Clay Travis at Buck Sexton.
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out of a bath, sitting on camera with him.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Very cute dog.
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She doesn't like baths, Clay, and we thought we could
use a little levity here, and so whenever she gets
out of the bath she is soaking wet.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
She looks like kind of like a.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Giant rodent now when her hair is all matted down
and she just sprints around the apartment and doesn't want
us to catch her. We also tried to watch some
of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog show last night, and
I found out I didn't know that dogs. My other
dogs never did this. She will bark at nothing else.
Dogs on the screen, she will bark at them, which
was really excited about the West. She gets really excited
(14:25):
when there's dogs on the screen. Anything else. I could
sit there and watch Saving Private Ryan and she's just
wrapped attention, quiet as a mouse. But when dogs come
on the screen, she barks. But anyway, you've got if
you saw that, if you're watching us in the Clay
and Buck vip stream, you had a wet ginger spice
showing up there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But did you see that?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
There's a bunch of different media stories that are out
there since we got Let's have a little bit of
fun here, because we've been talking about so many serious things.
Did you see the Politico story that said Jade Vance's
beard is a major turn off to women, but the crazy,
googly eyed Tim Walls is actually an incredible turn on
to women.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did you see that story side by the beard? The
beard does it turn off? Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yes, I mean I'm gonna tell you from when I
was a single guy like I was, you know, the beard, ladies,
ladies like the beard. I don't know some of them,
some of a are folks in to be anti beard
for for in general, But I don't know. The beard
I think is generally an asset when you're trying to
attract the lady.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Here's what politics, Vance's beard matters. Vance is the first
White House want to be to wear facial hair in
eighty years. Research indicates voters see beards as more masculine.
That can be a positive to some, but to others,
especially women, it can be negative, conveying aggression and opposition
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to feminist ideals.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This is Politico, to.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Which I would say, what are all you bear face
suckers doing out there listening to us right now?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I love a beard? Is this slap in the face
from the patriarchy?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. First of all,
I don't know that the beard says like, hey, I
think your vagina hats look stupid. But to the extent
that it does, I've never been prouder to be a
bearded man. And they all, I mean so that is
funny in and of itself. They also said, though it's
(16:20):
a side by side from Politico, and it has Tim
Walls with his great big googly eyes, which he constantly
was reacting with, saying that. On the other hand, Tim
Walls's body language conveyed to women that he was trustworthy
and that here's what they wrote buck. Walls's wide eye
showed his passion. Eye popping can sometimes be a sign
(16:44):
of surprise, but for Walls, it simply revealed his emotional intensity,
like during an exchange about abortion.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This is Politico.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
The dynamic and emphatic facial motion grabs the viewer's attention.
For Walls, it gave extra weight to his feelings and
held our gaze. I mean, come the I want to curse.
This is written by right, This is written by a woman.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I assume.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't know it's it's just from Politico. I'm not
sure who the official author was. But again, the beard
conveys aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. Tim Walls, with
his eyes wide, conveyed that he was extra weight to
his feelings. Excuse me, our gaze?
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What if?
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What if the bearded person identifies as non binary? How
about that? What if there are some and what about
bearded ladies?
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You know what an.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Unbearded pregnant ladies? I mean, this is a staple of
the Democrat Party.
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Now, you know, I'm just saying that they assume if
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the patriarchy.
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But maybe you identify as a woman.
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I mean, it's definitely on the list, and it's prophetic too.
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So we we're just talk We're just talking about the
October Surprise that is going down like a led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's not you know, is.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That is that a apocryphal story that that's where led
Zeppelin comes?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You ever heard that? Clay?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I saw I should google this before that the band
led Zeppelin got their name because they were about to
go on after somebody or before somebody rather, and they're like,
you guys are gonna go down like a led Zeppelin,
which you know, it's a very specific and they just
adopted it. I don't know if that's true. It's a
great one of these things. It's like a great story.
It's probably not true, you know, it's probably some other reason.
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But anyway, point being the October Surprise, Uh are are you?
Are you a Zeppelin guy or a Stone sky?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Clay I am this. Every time I talk about music,
I get in trouble. This is one thing that I
have absolutely zero knowledge of. I have been to see
the Rolling Stones in concert, and I thought they put
on an incredible show.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You say that about like the way that people pay
their taxes. I have been to Sea Rolling Stone costage. Well, yeah,
I mean I'm not. I'm not a huge music guy.
So I read I'm tone deaf. I think I've talked
about this on the show before. You had to do
an art and I was in chorus and our choral
teacher like we were all. I was in a bass
and they walked by and he stopped in front of
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me and he said, you you will announce all of
our songs from now on. Otherwise you are supposed to
mouth the words to the song. Because I was so off,
Pitch didn't even try to solve me. He was just like,
you're so. I admit that I am tone deaf. And
so I know a lot about I like to think sports, politics, history,
those three things. I know a lot about nothing about music.
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I went to Rolling Stones. I thought it was a
good show. I couldn't even give you a breakdown of
who's better led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones. I have legitimately
no functional ability to have an opinion on that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Issue, So which is better for you?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm more of a led Zeppelin person, but that's gonna
get a lot of booze from this audience, So that's.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
All right, That's okay.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'll be on Rolling Stone so we can common rolling
stover both sides of the issue. And I'm team led Zeppelin,
and I think I think it's probably seventy thirty in
your favor if I had to guess, But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Big win, big win for me, and we're going to
get that win today. Big win for mister Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Now what's not a big win is the October surprise
that the Democrats had here with Jack Smith. Here's MSNBC's
Jonathan Lemire Lamyer play for John.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Trump claims this is election of interference. Two rebuttals for that.
First of all, let's remember in twentye sixteen, James Comey's
letter about the FBI investigation Hillary Clinton came about a
week before the election. This is much further out. Also,
the reason why this is coming out now is because
of Donald Trump's legal team's own delay tactics. The push
that they have made, and then the Supreme Court decision
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about immunity with Jack Smith is trying now to circumvent.
So I don't think this quite qualifies as an October surprise,
but it is a reminder to so many Americans what
Trump did, what those years were, like, what another Trump
presidency could be like.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, they can get as huffy about it as
they like over at MSNBC, but they have two sic Clay,
two huge problems with this Trump is going to end
democracy thing. He was already president and he did a
good job. And everything that they have done in the
last four years to stop Trump has just added to
the list of reasons why you can't trust these people.
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Law fairer is the death of the Republic and they're insane.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, and all that is well said. Also, they went
too far in twenty twenty two. I'll admit they did
manage to use January sixth. They had the primetime hearings,
they had Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson and they were
all tearing up about direct threats to democracy. And I
do think that moved some middle of the road voters
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to vote Democrat, and they were able to. I mean,
they lost control of the House, but they were able
to avoid losing control of the Senate. And they didn't
get we didn't get the red wave that we anticipate
that the polls were suggesting we might. The problem is
then they rated mar A Lago. Then they also indicted
Trump in four different locations. And it's hard to argue
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that Trump is a direct threat to democracy when you
are trying to bankrupt him, imprison him, and kill him.
They have gone so far that all of this law fair,
I think has blown up in their face. Let me
just say this you want to talk about in October surprise.
I know we do not have an honest media. But
given the fact that Doug Mhoff, who is trying to become,
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alongside of Kamala Harris, the first gentleman, I guess who
ever live in the White House.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
The fact that he's.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Credibly accused of slapping a woman in the face in
twenty twelve so hard that it forced her to spin
around at a high end VIP party in Cannes, France,
while they are having him go around and lecture the
American body politic about toxic masculinity, you would think at
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a bare minimum buck that somebody would say, Hey, Kamala,
do you still believe all women because your husband slapped
a woman in the face. Do you think she's telling
the truth. And secondly, it makes me wonder has Doug
Amhoff of hever hit Kamala. I mean honestly, because it's
not very many men who will only hit one woman
in their life. We know he impregnated the nanny, Doug
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m Hoff. Now he's credibly accused multiple witnesses that he
slapped a woman in the face, which, let me just say,
if you are a grown man and you hit a woman,
I have no respect for you whatsoever in any facet.
I've got three boys. I was raised and I remember
being a kid and being frustrated. My sister's younger than me.
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She could hit me, she could do whatever I want,
and if I did anything back to her, I was
done for I think that's the way boys should be raised,
by the way. That's the way that I raise all
three of my boys. Now you're in your forties and
you're Doug im Hoff and you slap the crap out
of your girlfriend because you don't like the way that
she was behaving at a party. I'm sorry. This is
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not just a bad dude. This is I think, maybe
an evil dude. And the fact that Kamala Harris would
pick him as her life partner kind of reflects that
Kamala Harris makes bad choices in all facets of her life.
But you should ask her has she ever been slapped
by him?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think they're not gonna of course, they're not gonna ask,
and they're denying this. And it's worth noting that Kamala Harris.
I actually think one of the worst things about Kamala Harris,
and there's a lot, but something that I find completely
grotesque and unforgivable was her leading the charge of a
lunatic lying about Brett Kavanaugh to stop him from going
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on the Supreme Court. And just understand correct, they knew
that she was lying. They don't care it was anything
for abortion. You see how obsessed the Democrat Party is
with abortion. They they were worried, and sure enough, it
was correct that the Supreme Court was trending in a
direction that would overturn Row ruining man's life, lying about him,
calling it, falsely maligning him as an attempted you know,
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sexual assault or attempt attempted rapist, something they were happy
to do and they would do it again. And Kamwa
led that charge. So she is a morally grotesque person
and that that should, I think, be much more part
of the conversation than it currently is. I'd also say
about the men who tend to be at the head
of the Democrat Party. Who who of the current crop,
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who is who is admirable apart from politics? Who do
you as a guy, who do you look at as
a guy in the Democrat Party at the upper reaches
of the Democrat you know, sort of power base, Because
I mean I could sit here and tell you, you know,
there are a whole bunch of Republicans that I could
think of off the top of my head. I'm like,
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that guy seems like he's got a you know, seems
like he really loves and respects his wife, happy with
his kids, seems like a real and actual, like normal
man that I could sit down and talk to and
have a my answers got.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
On your mind?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Buck, But but right John Jhon Fetterman. I thought you
about to say Gavin Newsom, and I was gonna hit
the roof Fetterman.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
No, but I mean, Fetterman is still to my knowledge,
married to the first woman he married. He seems to
enjoy being a dad in some way. I know he's
had health related issues. His kids have not, to my knowledge,
probably gonna get blown up now, have not behaved in
a like when I look at what Doug im Hoff's
kids are doing and the people are like, oh, Ela
(27:37):
m Hoff is like a I mean she's twenty five,
so you're not talking about like a fifteen year old.
Look at the way she wears that chemo hat. Look
at the way she doesn't shave her armpits. She's a
feminist icon. I'm like, you know, it's a great point.
How many people do you look at and just think
in the Democrat Party that seems like a normal dad.
And I also I also want to be a first
(27:58):
of all, like Trump is very know every guy I know,
whether you're a Trump is a celebrity. He was a
celebrity before politics. It's different. He was a global celebrity
before he even got into political race. So you're talking
about somebody that's going to have a different background and
different just you know, it's just a different you know
mo o. But if we're gonna be if I'm gonna
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be just objective about this. Okay, Yeah, Trump's been married.
Trump's been married a few times, and for some people
that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I would add.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Into I mean, not Trump voters, but you know other
people would attack him on that. I would add into this. Okay, Yeah,
but you notice that his kids all like and respect him.
His kids are all successful, happy people for all, you know,
to the degree we can know anything about anyone in
public life. But they're not Hunter Biden, right, I mean
we we and they're and they're not. We would all
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know if they were, you know, and and and and
Ivanka isn't like not shaving her armpits and looking like
she hates the patriarchy every five seconds. She's the opposite
of that, right, I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You look at Trump, given the the.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
World that he out of, the access that he had,
the money that he had, and everything else. His ex
wives and him have a good relation. Marla Maples, big
supporter of Donald Trump. Evanna very rest in peace and
very impressive lady, big supporter. I mean I knew her
when I was a kid, a little bit of Vonna.
I knew the mom. I knew her much better than
I knew Donald that she was an impressive lady. Very
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you know her and Donald had a good I mean,
you know the relationship had broke now, but they had
a good relationship about the kids going forward. I'm just saying,
these people are not disaster zones.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. You look at the look at the Bidens disaster.
Look at what we're finding out about Kamala disaster. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
R f K Junior Son, you don't want to talk
about it, but that hasn't been great lately, folks, I'm
not I don't know, Bucker.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
He's so good on vaccines.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I love when you get mad at me for telling
you the truth that rf KG you your look, does
he write on the vaccines in COVID?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Suore?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
We are we talking a lot like to overlook almost
any character flaw.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
If you were right about COVID, I'll just be honest
with you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
RFK Junior appears to have been sleeping with like twenty
eight different women while he was running for president the
United States. That's hyperbole, I think, but but he was right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
At least four that we know of right now, at
least four that we know of right now while he's
married and running for president now that may be untrue,
although one no, one of them is definitely true. But
or you know, there was some weird relationship going on
there anyway. Look, I love him on vaccines too. Okay,
I won't give him. I would rather I've said this before,
but I said it. I would rather, you know, a
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politician screw a few random women or men than the
entire country. So if you told me right now, hey,
Joe Biden's gonna hook up with an intern, but he's
going to be a great president, I would rather hook
up with the intern.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's just me. I understand some people out there are like,
oh my god, how could you have?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Like I'm not pretending that these people are heroic, right,
I'm not pretending that the president's going to be a
moral arbiter for all America.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I just want to make decent decisions. Back to the
central point.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Look at the men on the right, look at the
men on the left in politics, and look at what
we're talking.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know, I mean, you just go down, you go
off the top of your head. You're like JD.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Van self made millionaire senator, lovely wife, cute kids, all intact,
vivek Ramaswami, you know, lovely wife, cute kids, incredibly successful
like you know, uh you know rand Paul, you know again,
lovely wife, you know, intact, fairly kids and yes, you know,
great kids.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Empty. I mean you go down this listen.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know Ted Cruz, like you know, his wife is cool,
she's pretty, and you know the happy family and you
go down this listen and you're like, these are guys
that you'd want to be around. You look at so
many of these Democrats and their families and their personal life,
and I mean at the top level, right, I mean,
I know, look, there's a it's a big party, big country.
There's MESSI Republicans too. I'm not saying it's but but
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who we choose to elevate? I mean, if you're a guy,
who do you look up to in the Democrat Party?
That's a guy that's really the fundamental question. I mean,
it's it's Biden, It's Joe Biden, It's Gavin who's really shady,
and you know it's you know, it's it's Pete Buddha, Judge,
it's who.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Are the guys?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Prinzker, No, I mean I think you're Ad Pritzker. You
know what I'm saying, Like no, it's a very sound one.
There is virtually no Democrat And they tried to argue
that Tim Wallace is one that is a man that
men would aspire to emulate. I think that's fair. You know,
most men look to men who are bigger, stronger, faster
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than them. That's why men like athletes, right, That's why
sports is appealing because in general, the men who are
the most successful are alpha male versions. Even movies that
men like Bay and Large are about badasses shooting up
people kicking ass. Right. In general, that's true. Who is
the alpha male of the Democrat Party? Bernie Sanders at
(32:53):
A and M right. I mean, it is an interesting question,
and I think that's that's emblematic of why the Democrat
Party in particular is struggling so much with men in general.
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Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we're joined by Julie Kelly Declassified is her substack,
which you can subscribe to. You know, Julie just want
to say before we dive into the latest law fair shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
You know, we have spent.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really the entire show on what we think is actually
the most important story in the country today. I know
you agree, which is what's going on in this aftermath
of Helene and the relief efforts.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But we didn't want to leave it out there.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, we don't want anyone to say, oh, well,
they're not talking about the big Jack Smith bomb that
was dropped. You know, they're avoided. So of course, you know,
we will address this now, you know, I guess the
first way to do it. And just to be clear
that the Democrat media thinks it's the most important thing
in the whole country, right, I mean, they're far more important.
Clay and I were reading the headlines New York Times,
(00:52):
Washington Post, much more concerned with Jack Smith's latest thing
than what's going on in the you know, Carolina as
any area is impacted by the hurricane. But okay, so
they're saying this, we have an election coming up. Talk
to us anything new in this and what's why is
this supposed to be in October.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Surprise, because there isn't a lot new in here. A
lot of this has been sort of regurgitated from I
want to make sure my mic is on okay, good,
regurgitated from both the House impeachment against Donald Trump for
JAY six and of course the JA six House Committee report.
(01:33):
But what this does and how I have described it
is Jack Smith's opening arguments for a case that will
never make it to trial. This week watered down and
in some instances still unlawful. For account. Indictment that Jack
Smith has against Donald Trump will never survive a Supreme
(01:54):
Court test again, both for immunity and the Fisher decision,
which is we've talked about fifteen twelve C two the
Supreme Court overturning how the DOJ has applied that post
on run statute. It represents two of the four counts
in this indictment. This is never going to trial even
if Donald Trump loses. So this is his opening argument.
(02:15):
Jack Smith is a partisan political hack, a former Obama,
a DOJ official who also has been overturned by the
Supreme Court nine to nothing. In the Robert Donald conviction,
and he's he's got a record of losing, so this
is his only opportunity to not just salvage this j
(02:38):
six case in the public square, but also try to
salvage the remaining shards of his decaying reputation. So that
is what we're seeing from what I call this dirty dossier.
With the Steele dossier in twenty sixteen, now we've got
Jack Smith dossier. But to your point, the media has
(02:59):
they are acting like it was Christmas Day yesterday. Jake
Tapper's on CNN, He's waving the one hundred and sixty five
pages around. You've got the analysts there and the commentators
talking about how this will be a fatal blow to
Donald Trump's candidacy, that he will not win reelection because
of this issue. But again, it also gives cover for
the real scandals and the real crises, which is of
(03:22):
course the devastation, the apocalyptic images that are coming out
of North Carolina, and also the other crises that we have,
you know, war in the Middle East on a few
different fronts, and open southern border with criminal migrants coming
across into our country. So this is a perfect cover
for the media, the Democrats, and the Harris Walls ticket
(03:43):
to pivot away from the real issues to again this
four hour disturbance almost now four years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You know, I love this, Julie, because I was out
watching eighth grade football last night. My phone blows up
with Oh my goodness, can you I thought, Oh, what's
going on here? I go look, and I'm like, this
story is not going to last twenty four hours. And
it's interesting this story came out and Donald Trump today
actually in the betting markets, which I like to follow,
(04:11):
took the lead over Kamala. Harris so Buck and I
have been talking about New York Times, Washington Post. It's
their top four or five stories. Meanwhile, people are dying
in North Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina with the storm
that came through that Biden and Kamala can't seem to
respond to.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
But it landed.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
To use a phrase from the Obama administration, really like
it nothing burger. And then they're going to desperately try
to make it happen. And then I'll tell you what's
gonna happen in twenty four hours. Even the ardent left
is not going to be fueling the clicks and the
ratings that they need, and it's going to be over
and I can only imagine. I think the last time
we had you on Julie, I was saying, I want
(04:50):
a Jack Smith cam for election night if Trump wins.
This guy has spent years of his life now trying
to get Trump, and Trump is actually gonna end up
president United States. All of his work is going to
go up and smoke and he's basically his career's over.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, let's hope his career is over, and let's hope
that there is accountability because what this document Clay represents,
what he filed yesterday is the most brazen, egregious example
of DOJ interference, not just interference in a presidential campaign,
our presidential race, but doing using the full weight of
(05:27):
the Department of Justice, the most powerful law enforcement agency
in the country, to destroy Donald Trump's chances at winning. Now,
to your point, I don't think it is. I think
that this will sort of fade away except at CNN,
at MSNBC, in the Washington Post, in New York Times.
But look what you've got today, Kamala Harris with Liz
(05:48):
Cheney at an event in Wisconsin. What are they going
to talk about not the issues that people of Wisconsin
care about. They're going to talk about this fake threat
that Donald Trump poses to democracy, whatever that means. How
we almost you know, ended our country, as Joe Biden
calls it, We almost lost everything, Joe Biden says about
January sixth, and that is what they will be talking about.
(06:12):
That's all they've got. And so, but there's going to
be more to come. This is only the first hit
out of this motion. There also will be an appendix
that will be unsealed in the next probably week or
so that will give more witness testimony disclosing grand jury
testimony FBI three O two. So they're going to keep
(06:33):
piling on. Judge Chuckkin is going to allow Jacksmith to
do this and really denying Donald Trump his due process rights.
While this is an opening argument on paper, if it
was at trial, Donald Trump would be allowed immediately to respond,
cross examine witness, et cetera. None of that is happening now.
It is not just election interference another DOJ, just disparagement
(07:00):
of the law of due process, the rule of law,
and denial of constitutional protections that we all have, including
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her substack where she
does a lot of great work on this issue.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Julie.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
If Trump wins, I think we all know that this
goes away as it should if for some reason Heaven forbid,
but it could happen Kamala Harris becomes president. What do
you see as the future of the Jack Smith prosecution
based on what we now know the Supreme Court weighing
in Jack Smith's dirty dossier? Is it really just about
(07:39):
the election and the politics and the election interference or
do you really think that Jack Smith is going to
try to lock Donald Trump up if he loses.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think he will still try. I know we've been
talking about this for a few years since Jack Smith
was appointed. Now November of twenty twenty two. So Donald
Trump loses, yes, they will continue the January sixth case.
It will never survive, as I said, the Supreme Court
where it will end up again because it will be
another immunity question, will never survive and appeal on immunity
(08:15):
protections and the fissure ruling. So this indictment, now, he
could bring superseding indictments, especially based on you know some
day that Donald Trump maybe did after this election, they're
going to keep piling on. But I'll take this even
a step further. If Donald Trump wins, you can guarantee
that Tanya Chuckkin will still hold some sort of hearing
(08:36):
on this case in November or December, before Donald Trump
is sworn into office, some sort of hearing to keep
this matter alive until the very last minute, force Donald
Trump and his lawyers back in her courtroom over this
motion or a few other motions that were still expecting.
(08:56):
So they are They're going to wait till the very
last minute if Donald Trump wins, to keep this hanging
over his head as this cloud that we saw the
same thing in twenty sixteen with the made up Trump
Russia election collusion hoax. Also, we still have what's happening
in Florida judging name Cannon in July dismissing that indictment
(09:18):
based on her findings that Jack Smith was unconstitutionally appointed.
That also will get to the Supreme Court if Donald
Trump loses. It still will make its way to the
Supreme Court. And I'm pretty sure, based on comments that
we saw from Justice Clarence Thomas and others, that the
Supreme Court would eventually conclude that he his appointment violated
(09:38):
the appointment's clause of the Constitution. So there's still a
lot more grist that Jack Smith can squeeze out of
this Donald Trump winning or losing. But they are not
going to give this up anytime soon, and will not
give it up easily regardless of the outcome of the election.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Julie, do you get the sense that much of this
law fair blew up in their face They thought that
My calculus on this, and I think Buck would sign off,
is that they thought, oh, this will strengthen Trump with
right wing voters, but it's going to be ultimately damning
for him in the general election. Instead, it seems to
(10:17):
have basically strengthened Trump across the board. And that's why
I'm a little bit surprised. This feels like such a hell, Mary,
And if anything, if you asked me to analyze the
politics of this, not the law, just the politics, because
I think the law, as I've said for some time
with you and on this show, is total bunk, right,
It's just crap.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But I think it.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Actually works to Trump's favor that they try to dredge
this back up once October comes up, because it shows
that ultimately this isn't really anything other than a political
move which benefits Trump.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right, I definitely agree that the law fair, whether it's
from Jack Smith, whether it's in Georgia, from Fanny Willis,
whether it's what's happening in New York in those cases,
has completely backfired, blew up in the face of the
Democratic Party. I mean, look, you had Joe Biden bullied
out of this race because Donald Trump was going to
(11:13):
beat him despite what Joe Biden and his White House
and his agencies and his General counsel we know in
cahoots trying to concoct the classified documents skeep They had
all the levers of power, right, and they sent DOJ
prosecutors to Georgia, and they were working with the team
in New York. And so all of this blew up
(11:35):
to the extent that Joe Biden had to pull out
of the race because Trump was so was going to
beat him so badly. So you would think that they
would learn their lesson, but they really have not. And
again this is cover for the failed Biden Kamala Harris administration.
These crises blowing up not just in the country but
(11:55):
around the world, and this is all they can hang
their hat on is Jayson. So Jack Smith swoops in
once again, gives them an assist, gives them this dirty dossier,
and gives them more talking points to avoid discussing the
real issues that Americans care about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Julie Kelly, check out your classified on substack. Julie, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Thanks guys.
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Very cute dog.
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She doesn't like baths, Clay, and we thought we could
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She looks like kind of like a.
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Giant rodent now when her hair is all matted down
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us to catch her. We also tried to watch some
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I found out I didn't know that dogs. My other
dogs never did this. She will bark at nothing else.
Dogs on the screen, she will bark at them, which
was really excited about the West. She gets really excited
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when there's dogs on the screen. Anything else. I could
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
But did you see that?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
There's a bunch of different media stories that are out
there since we got Let's have a little bit of
fun here, because we've been talking about so many serious things.
Did you see the Politico story that said Jade Vance's
beard is a major turn off to women, but the crazy,
googly eyed Tim Walls is actually an incredible turn on
to women.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Did you see that story side by the beard? The
beard does it turn off? Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yes, I mean I'm gonna tell you from when I
was a single guy like I was, you know, the beard, ladies,
ladies like the beard. I don't know some of them,
some of a are folks in to be anti beard
for for in general, But I don't know. The beard
I think is generally an asset when you're trying to
attract the lady.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Here's what politics, Vance's beard matters. Vance is the first
White House want to be to wear facial hair in
eighty years. Research indicates voters see beards as more masculine.
That can be a positive to some, but to others,
especially women, it can be negative, conveying aggression and opposition
(15:43):
to feminist ideals.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This is Politico, to.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Which I would say, what are all you bear face
suckers doing out there listening to us right now?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I love a beard? Is this slap in the face
from the patriarchy?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. First of all,
I don't know that the beard says like, hey, I
think your vagina hats look stupid. But to the extent
that it does, I've never been prouder to be a
bearded man. And they all, I mean so that is
funny in and of itself. They also said, though it's
(16:20):
a side by side from Politico, and it has Tim
Walls with his great big googly eyes, which he constantly
was reacting with, saying that. On the other hand, Tim
Walls's body language conveyed to women that he was trustworthy
and that here's what they wrote buck. Walls's wide eye
showed his passion. Eye popping can sometimes be a sign
(16:44):
of surprise, but for Walls, it simply revealed his emotional intensity,
like during an exchange about abortion.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
This is Politico.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
The dynamic and emphatic facial motion grabs the viewer's attention.
For Walls, it gave extra weight to his feelings and
held our gaze. I mean, come the I want to curse.
This is written by right, This is written by a woman.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I assume.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I don't know it's it's just from Politico. I'm not
sure who the official author was. But again, the beard
conveys aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. Tim Walls, with
his eyes wide, conveyed that he was extra weight to
his feelings. Excuse me, our gaze?
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What if?
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What if the bearded person identifies as non binary? How
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You know what an.
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Unbearded pregnant ladies? I mean, this is a staple of
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Now, you know, I'm just saying that they assume if
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the patriarchy.
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But maybe you identify as a woman.
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That's still the funniest thing I think South Park has
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I mean, it's definitely on the list, and it's prophetic too.
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So we we're just talk We're just talking about the
October Surprise that is going down like a led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's not you know, is.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That is that a apocryphal story that that's where led
Zeppelin comes?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You ever heard that? Clay?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I saw I should google this before that the band
led Zeppelin got their name because they were about to
go on after somebody or before somebody rather, and they're like,
you guys are gonna go down like a led Zeppelin,
which you know, it's a very specific and they just
adopted it. I don't know if that's true. It's a
great one of these things. It's like a great story.
It's probably not true, you know, it's probably some other reason.
(19:35):
But anyway, point being the October Surprise, Uh are are you?
Are you a Zeppelin guy or a Stone sky?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Clay I am this. Every time I talk about music,
I get in trouble. This is one thing that I
have absolutely zero knowledge of. I have been to see
the Rolling Stones in concert, and I thought they put
on an incredible show.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You say that about like the way that people pay
their taxes. I have been to Sea Rolling Stone costage. Well, yeah,
I mean I'm not. I'm not a huge music guy.
So I read I'm tone deaf. I think I've talked
about this on the show before. You had to do
an art and I was in chorus and our choral
teacher like we were all. I was in a bass
and they walked by and he stopped in front of
(20:17):
me and he said, you you will announce all of
our songs from now on. Otherwise you are supposed to
mouth the words to the song. Because I was so off,
Pitch didn't even try to solve me. He was just like,
you're so. I admit that I am tone deaf. And
so I know a lot about I like to think sports, politics, history,
those three things. I know a lot about nothing about music.
(20:38):
I went to Rolling Stones. I thought it was a
good show. I couldn't even give you a breakdown of
who's better led Zeppelin or Rolling Stones. I have legitimately
no functional ability to have an opinion on that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Issue, So which is better for you?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm more of a led Zeppelin person, but that's gonna
get a lot of booze from this audience, So that's.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
All right, That's okay.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'll be on Rolling Stone so we can common rolling
stover both sides of the issue. And I'm team led Zeppelin,
and I think I think it's probably seventy thirty in
your favor if I had to guess, But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Big win, big win for me, and we're going to
get that win today. Big win for mister Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Now what's not a big win is the October surprise
that the Democrats had here with Jack Smith. Here's MSNBC's
Jonathan Lemire Lamyer play for John.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Trump claims this is election of interference. Two rebuttals for that.
First of all, let's remember in twentye sixteen, James Comey's
letter about the FBI investigation Hillary Clinton came about a
week before the election. This is much further out. Also,
the reason why this is coming out now is because
of Donald Trump's legal team's own delay tactics. The push
that they have made, and then the Supreme Court decision
(21:49):
about immunity with Jack Smith is trying now to circumvent.
So I don't think this quite qualifies as an October surprise,
but it is a reminder to so many Americans what
Trump did, what those years were, like, what another Trump
presidency could be like.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, they can get as huffy about it as
they like over at MSNBC, but they have two sic Clay,
two huge problems with this Trump is going to end
democracy thing. He was already president and he did a
good job. And everything that they have done in the
last four years to stop Trump has just added to
the list of reasons why you can't trust these people.
(22:26):
Law fairer is the death of the Republic and they're insane.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, and all that is well said. Also, they went
too far in twenty twenty two. I'll admit they did
manage to use January sixth. They had the primetime hearings,
they had Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson and they were
all tearing up about direct threats to democracy. And I
do think that moved some middle of the road voters
(22:49):
to vote Democrat, and they were able to. I mean,
they lost control of the House, but they were able
to avoid losing control of the Senate. And they didn't
get we didn't get the red wave that we anticipate
that the polls were suggesting we might. The problem is
then they rated mar A Lago. Then they also indicted
Trump in four different locations. And it's hard to argue
(23:11):
that Trump is a direct threat to democracy when you
are trying to bankrupt him, imprison him, and kill him.
They have gone so far that all of this law fair,
I think has blown up in their face. Let me
just say this you want to talk about in October surprise.
I know we do not have an honest media. But
given the fact that Doug Mhoff, who is trying to become,
(23:33):
alongside of Kamala Harris, the first gentleman, I guess who
ever live in the White House.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
The fact that he's.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Credibly accused of slapping a woman in the face in
twenty twelve so hard that it forced her to spin
around at a high end VIP party in Cannes, France,
while they are having him go around and lecture the
American body politic about toxic masculinity, you would think at
(24:01):
a bare minimum buck that somebody would say, Hey, Kamala,
do you still believe all women because your husband slapped
a woman in the face. Do you think she's telling
the truth. And secondly, it makes me wonder has Doug
Amhoff of hever hit Kamala. I mean honestly, because it's
not very many men who will only hit one woman
in their life. We know he impregnated the nanny, Doug
(24:23):
m Hoff. Now he's credibly accused multiple witnesses that he
slapped a woman in the face, which, let me just say,
if you are a grown man and you hit a woman,
I have no respect for you whatsoever in any facet.
I've got three boys. I was raised and I remember
being a kid and being frustrated. My sister's younger than me.
(24:45):
She could hit me, she could do whatever I want,
and if I did anything back to her, I was
done for I think that's the way boys should be raised,
by the way. That's the way that I raise all
three of my boys. Now you're in your forties and
you're Doug im Hoff and you slap the crap out
of your girlfriend because you don't like the way that
she was behaving at a party. I'm sorry. This is
(25:06):
not just a bad dude. This is I think, maybe
an evil dude. And the fact that Kamala Harris would
pick him as her life partner kind of reflects that
Kamala Harris makes bad choices in all facets of her life.
But you should ask her has she ever been slapped
by him?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think they're not gonna of course, they're not gonna ask,
and they're denying this. And it's worth noting that Kamala Harris.
I actually think one of the worst things about Kamala Harris,
and there's a lot, but something that I find completely
grotesque and unforgivable was her leading the charge of a
lunatic lying about Brett Kavanaugh to stop him from going
(25:44):
on the Supreme Court. And just understand correct, they knew
that she was lying. They don't care it was anything
for abortion. You see how obsessed the Democrat Party is
with abortion. They they were worried, and sure enough, it
was correct that the Supreme Court was trending in a
direction that would overturn Row ruining man's life, lying about him,
calling it, falsely maligning him as an attempted you know,
(26:06):
sexual assault or attempt attempted rapist, something they were happy
to do and they would do it again. And Kamwa
led that charge. So she is a morally grotesque person
and that that should, I think, be much more part
of the conversation than it currently is. I'd also say
about the men who tend to be at the head
of the Democrat Party. Who who of the current crop,
(26:31):
who is who is admirable apart from politics? Who do
you as a guy, who do you look at as
a guy in the Democrat Party at the upper reaches
of the Democrat you know, sort of power base, Because
I mean I could sit here and tell you, you know,
there are a whole bunch of Republicans that I could
think of off the top of my head. I'm like,
(26:52):
that guy seems like he's got a you know, seems
like he really loves and respects his wife, happy with
his kids, seems like a real and actual, like normal
man that I could sit down and talk to and
have a my answers got.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
On your mind?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Buck, But but right John Jhon Fetterman. I thought you
about to say Gavin Newsom, and I was gonna hit
the roof Fetterman.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
No, but I mean, Fetterman is still to my knowledge,
married to the first woman he married. He seems to
enjoy being a dad in some way. I know he's
had health related issues. His kids have not, to my knowledge,
probably gonna get blown up now, have not behaved in
a like when I look at what Doug im Hoff's
kids are doing and the people are like, oh, Ela
(27:37):
m Hoff is like a I mean she's twenty five,
so you're not talking about like a fifteen year old.
Look at the way she wears that chemo hat. Look
at the way she doesn't shave her armpits. She's a
feminist icon. I'm like, you know, it's a great point.
How many people do you look at and just think
in the Democrat Party that seems like a normal dad.
And I also I also want to be a first
(27:58):
of all, like Trump is very know every guy I know,
whether you're a Trump is a celebrity. He was a
celebrity before politics. It's different. He was a global celebrity
before he even got into political race. So you're talking
about somebody that's going to have a different background and
different just you know, it's just a different you know
mo o. But if we're gonna be if I'm gonna
(28:19):
be just objective about this. Okay, Yeah, Trump's been married.
Trump's been married a few times, and for some people
that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I would add.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Into I mean, not Trump voters, but you know other
people would attack him on that. I would add into this. Okay, Yeah,
but you notice that his kids all like and respect him.
His kids are all successful, happy people for all, you know,
to the degree we can know anything about anyone in
public life. But they're not Hunter Biden, right, I mean
we we and they're and they're not. We would all
(28:46):
know if they were, you know, and and and and
Ivanka isn't like not shaving her armpits and looking like
she hates the patriarchy every five seconds. She's the opposite
of that, right, I mean, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You look at Trump, given the the.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
World that he out of, the access that he had,
the money that he had, and everything else. His ex
wives and him have a good relation. Marla Maples, big
supporter of Donald Trump. Evanna very rest in peace and
very impressive lady, big supporter. I mean I knew her
when I was a kid, a little bit of Vonna.
I knew the mom. I knew her much better than
I knew Donald that she was an impressive lady. Very
(29:21):
you know her and Donald had a good I mean,
you know the relationship had broke now, but they had
a good relationship about the kids going forward. I'm just saying,
these people are not disaster zones.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. You look at the look at the Bidens disaster.
Look at what we're finding out about Kamala disaster. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
R f K Junior Son, you don't want to talk
about it, but that hasn't been great lately, folks, I'm
not I don't know, Bucker.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
He's so good on vaccines.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I love when you get mad at me for telling
you the truth that rf KG you your look, does
he write on the vaccines in COVID?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Suore?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
We are we talking a lot like to overlook almost
any character flaw.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
If you were right about COVID, I'll just be honest
with you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
RFK Junior appears to have been sleeping with like twenty
eight different women while he was running for president the
United States. That's hyperbole, I think, but but he was right.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
At least four that we know of right now, at
least four that we know of right now while he's
married and running for president now that may be untrue,
although one no, one of them is definitely true. But
or you know, there was some weird relationship going on
there anyway. Look, I love him on vaccines too. Okay,
I won't give him. I would rather I've said this before,
but I said it. I would rather, you know, a
(30:33):
politician screw a few random women or men than the
entire country. So if you told me right now, hey,
Joe Biden's gonna hook up with an intern, but he's
going to be a great president, I would rather hook
up with the intern.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's just me. I understand some people out there are like,
oh my god, how could you have?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Like I'm not pretending that these people are heroic, right,
I'm not pretending that the president's going to be a
moral arbiter for all America.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I just want to make decent decisions. Back to the
central point.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Look at the men on the right, look at the
men on the left in politics, and look at what
we're talking.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You know, I mean, you just go down, you go
off the top of your head. You're like JD.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Van self made millionaire senator, lovely wife, cute kids, all intact,
vivek Ramaswami, you know, lovely wife, cute kids, incredibly successful
like you know, uh you know rand Paul, you know again,
lovely wife, you know, intact, fairly kids and yes, you know,
great kids.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Empty. I mean you go down this listen.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know Ted Cruz, like you know, his wife is cool,
she's pretty, and you know the happy family and you
go down this listen and you're like, these are guys
that you'd want to be around. You look at so
many of these Democrats and their families and their personal life,
and I mean at the top level, right, I mean,
I know, look, there's a it's a big party, big country.
There's MESSI Republicans too. I'm not saying it's but but
(31:47):
who we choose to elevate? I mean, if you're a guy,
who do you look up to in the Democrat Party?
That's a guy that's really the fundamental question. I mean,
it's it's Biden, It's Joe Biden, It's Gavin who's really shady,
and you know it's you know, it's it's Pete Buddha, Judge,
it's who.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Are the guys?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Prinzker, No, I mean I think you're Ad Pritzker. You
know what I'm saying, Like no, it's a very sound one.
There is virtually no Democrat And they tried to argue
that Tim Wallace is one that is a man that
men would aspire to emulate. I think that's fair. You know,
most men look to men who are bigger, stronger, faster
(32:28):
than them. That's why men like athletes, right, That's why
sports is appealing because in general, the men who are
the most successful are alpha male versions. Even movies that
men like Bay and Large are about badasses shooting up
people kicking ass. Right. In general, that's true. Who is
the alpha male of the Democrat Party? Bernie Sanders at
(32:53):
A and M right. I mean, it is an interesting question,
and I think that's that's emblematic of why the Democrat
Party in particular is struggling so much with men in general.
All right, buck, get your pins, everybody, grab your hero
and go Thursday Night Football. Thursday Night Football is going
on tonight. We got big audience in Atlanta. We got
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a big audience in New Orleans. We are going to
have sorry, Tampa Bay, they already played Atlanta New Orleans.
We got Tampa Bay going up against the Falcons tonight.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
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are the chief of police there, tell us what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
You know, myself and the fire chief here decided to
help out the Ashville first responders. We've seen the destruction,
we know the heartache that they're going through down there,
and we're going we're reaching out for our community. We
cooperated with the Park National Bank here locally, and we're
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asking for donations. A friend of mine is also a
US representative, Troy Palterson. He stepped forward, he donated some money,
and we're just we're just trying to find some money
to help these folks down there, especially the first responders,
the long hours in the work that they're doing down there,
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and their families and what tragedy that their experience as well.
And also you know, the fire department's trying to get
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We're just we're just trying to ask community to help us.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Thank you so much. I know so many people out
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