October 31, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into a packed lineup of political analysis, insider interviews, and cultural commentary. Buck opens the hour discussing Clay’s travel nightmare amid widespread airport chaos caused by the ongoing government shutdown, highlighting how air traffic controller shortages and TSA delays are creating nationwide disruptions. This segues into a sharp critique of Democratic leadership, with Buck questioning whether mounting pressure from unions and airline executives will force Democrats to end the standoff.
The conversation then shifts to Kamala Harris’s controversial book tour and her attempts to defend the Biden administration’s handling of President Biden’s cognitive decline. Buck dismantles Harris’s argument that Biden was fit to govern but not to campaign, calling it “absurd” and pointing out the administration’s deception about Biden’s mental state. Harris’s excuses for her crushing 2024 election loss to Donald Trump—including claims of “misinformation,” “disinformation,” and the “Elon Musk factor”—are dissected in detail. Buck argues that Harris’s failure reflects a broader rejection of identity politics and DEI-driven promotions, emphasizing that voters now demand competence over optics.
Later in the hour, Buck welcomes Miranda Devine, host of Pod Force One, for an in-depth discussion on her recent interview with Vice President JD Vance. Topics include the administration’s stance on Russia-Ukraine peace prospects, the fallout from Zelensky’s Oval Office clash with Trump, and growing speculation about U.S. military operations in Venezuela—raising questions about whether these strikes target drug cartels or signal regime change. Miranda also shares JD Vance’s candid thoughts on UFOs and spiritual forces, his Catholic faith, and personal anecdotes about President Trump’s work ethic and family-friendly demeanor, offering listeners a rare glimpse behind the scenes of the White House.
The hour wraps with lighter moments, including talkback calls on favorite Halloween candies and Buck’s shout-out to his mom’s birthday, before teasing Clay’s return on Monday. From Kamala Harris’s political future to Trump’s leadership style, government shutdown fallout, and even alien theories, Hour 3 delivers sharp insights and engaging conversation that fans of conservative commentary won’t want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, last
hour before we send you off for a wonderful weekend.
You just heard from our man Clay stuck in a
situation at the Chicago airport because of the shut down.
And I am sure you know, whenever you're in a
(00:20):
messy airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what
it is, that's bad sign, right, bad enough when they're like, well,
we've got some weather coming in, whatever it is, when
you're just being told, yeah, we don't know, man, you
might have to camp out here. Maybe time to get
that sleeping pad and unroll it, you know, maybe time
to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow and
(00:43):
lie on the ground. Don't worry. Chick fil A will
open at some point, you know. That's that's where things
are because of the government shutdown. The air traffic controllers
are very annoyed about this situation, as they well be.
But I want to take you on a journey of
(01:05):
sorts into what may be the most self defeating and
self pitying book tour of all time, certainly high on
the list, I know it is not, in fact, Karen
Jean Pierre Cree Jean Pierre. I think we all get
what's going on with that one, with that situation of
(01:27):
the book tour. She's an independent. Now you are the
press secretary for Joe Biden. Now you're independent. You've left
the Democrat You've left the Democrat Party because they finally
couldn't prop up your boss anymore. Whom you Quree Jean Pierre,
were lying to the American people about you Cree Jean Pierre,
who said that it was a cheap fake when people
(01:50):
shared video of the president having cognitive issues, cognitive breakdown.
You ukoine Jean Pierre now would lecture us about how
the Democrat Party abandoned him. Were they not supposed to?
What exactly did she want them to do? She doesn't
even know, she doesn't know. Makes no sense, But Kamala Harris,
(02:15):
she's not just hoping to cash out on a pretty
weak book tour and do the speaking circuit for a
bit and then get some gig at MSNBC. No, Kamala
Harris does think that she should have a leadership role
in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for the country.
Kamala Harris wants to be make no mistake, wants to
(02:37):
be president of these United States. But she's got a problem.
She's Kamala Harris, same person that we saw in this
last election. It's not that we didn't know what we
were dealing with. It's not that the American people weren't
aware of Kamala Harris. It is in fact that she
(02:58):
has tremendous deficiencies. And here is John Stewart, propagandist of
the left, John Stuart, as he is talking to Comboll.
This has cut four about whether Biden was competent to
serve or not. Listen to this exchange part of the
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book tour play.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
For I believe he was fully competent to serve.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Do you really? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I do.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That surprises me. Actually no, I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But there's a distinction to be made between running for
president and being president.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
What's the distinction, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Being a candidate for president the United States is about
being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes
thrown at you every step you take. That sounds lovely, Yeah,
it's more than a notion.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Get involved in public service, ladies.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And gentlemen, and to be the seated president, the sitting
president while doing that, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's all, yeah, it's I think it's a hard case
to make for people that he didn't have the stamina
to run, but he had the stamina to govern, because
I think most people view the presidency as a marathon
run at a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In terms of governance, John Stewart way too gentle. He's
a propagandist, way too gentle with commaladers. This is moronic.
I mean, this is just insulting to the intelligence of
everybody's watching. Oh, Joe Biden, it's okay for him to
be commander in chief. It's okay for him to be
(04:35):
the one who would uh be responding to a possible
attack on the United States, an act of war, making
decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions
of people around the world. That he had plenty of
plenty of gas in the tank for that. But to
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show up, remember he's being ferried by Air Force one.
I mean, to show up to give some speeches. He
took it all the way to June, my friends. So
we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties
weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee
(05:17):
from June to November, but they were strong enough for
him to be president president in June and therefore in
twenty twenty twenty twenty five as.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, because right what would be the the only thing
that he wasn't able to do according to Kamala, who
is Who's an absurd person?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Absurd John Stewart, not the tough case. Yeah, please, it's idiotic, John,
And you know it. Where is the difference. He's president
in June of twenty four, He's fine to do that.
He's gonna be fine then to be president in January
of twenty five. But it's the whole campaigning thing in
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between that he can't handle. That was the part of
it that he wasn't up for. And let me remind
you that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue. What
we saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald
Trump was somebody who has some stage or some level
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of dementia, which means that his brain is not functioning,
his decision making is not functioning as it should, which
we also know because he had outsourced his presidency to
the advisors around him. All of this adds up. But
Kamala is out there trying to say, Oh, the problem
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wasn't Joe Biden's ability to think it was he needed
more nap time to get through the campaign. You know,
it's just not gonna work. We're not all that dumb.
We know what they did, we know the big lies
they all told. And they're trying to in some way,
(07:08):
they're trying to push away that humiliation that stink of
being so utterly mendacious. But this is what happened. They
lied to the American people about it. And one of
the big problems they have is the person who should
be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats,
(07:31):
the former vice president, the former nominee, Kamala Harris, is
completely tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden.
And then we get to well, also, Kamala, why is
it that the American people, I mean, you lost every
(07:51):
swing state to Trump. People know who you are, You're
the vice president. Why weren't you able to do it?
John Stewart continuing on, I said, he's being as friendly
and gentle to Kamala as he can be, but he
doesn't want to just look like a total clown buffoon
himself here. He is this has cut six why do
you lose? Kamala. Here's her explanation. Listen to it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I do believe one of the biggest factors that was
at play in one hundred and seven days we just
didn't have enough time. We didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Or was it too much time.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I mean, if you had done the election after sixty days,
I think you went honestly, there was a there seemed
like a stagnation point, and then if you look at
the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, but there's so many variables that went into the
outcome of that race. Because you can also look at
where you started to see an infusion of resources going
into missing disinformation. I talk about, for example, the Elon
Musk factor in the book. You can look at that
there were certain inflection points that had an impact on
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the race, and you point it was as David Pluff said,
it was those those traditional inflection points, and there were others.
So I don't want to reduce what we need to
do going forward to any one factor around what we
could have done better, what I could have done better
in those one hundred and seven days, what was happening
(09:19):
before I think there are multitude of factors that all
need to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Misinformation and disinformation. She's really gonna go there, she's gonna do.
She's gonna pull that one.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation. That's
why she lost. And she didn't lose by a little bit. Also,
I understand the aggregate vote total. You can say, but
that's not the election. That's one. It's electoral college. And
she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump. Everyone.
(09:50):
He was indicted four times by the sham deep state
loser prosecutors, He survived a bullet through his ear, another
assassination attempt, the entirety of the legacy media throwing all
of their credibility in one giant bonfire in an effort
to stop Trump. And she got absolutely crushed by him
(10:11):
in this election. And she takes, you'll notice, no accountability
for it. Have you heard her say anything like, you know,
I made a mistake. I read her book, by the way,
which was written for her by other people. Have you
heard her say that I made a huge error about anything?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did she learn anything from this process? No, it's always
someone else's fault. It's always things outside her control. It's
sexism or racism, or Trump is a more disinformation or
misinformation or what about Kamma, You're just not very good
at this and you were able to ride a wave
(10:54):
of DEI in the Democrat Party that was willing to
push be both through the very heights of power based
upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity,
and that the American people have decided that we've had
(11:15):
enough of that and that we should all we should
just judge people by who they are, man or woman,
any race. What are your capabilities, what's your skill set?
What do you bring to the table? Bringing diversity to
the table is not meaningful to people who care about
those other things. This is the big change and this
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is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating.
And I might add one in which you are held
accountable and responsible for what you do as a person,
your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic. Kamala wants to
whine about how she's a victim. She's the former vice
president of the United States, was handed hand the Democrat nomination,
(12:02):
which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do, and
now she complains about it and everybody else I read
her book, everybody else makes mistakes, everybody else did the
dumb things. She doesn't say never mind, I'm sorry. She
doesn't say I'll do better next time in any meaningful way,
or I'll change Remember what she said about Biden? Would
(12:23):
you change anything about Biden? No, because she just thinks
she's supposed to win for showing up. The people in
charge are supposed to tell her how great she is
and that she now has all this power. And this
election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her, is a
repudiation of the world that she had been living in before,
(12:44):
at least in her own mind, and certainly in the
state of California, where she just gets to show up
and that's enough. She doesn't have to be impressive, she
doesn't have to be good. She just has to be
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are
going to get to some of your calls and also
some of your talkbacks. But want to tell you that
we're going to have Miranda Devine with us shortly here
to talk about her interview with JD Vance and just
everything else that's going on. Miranda Vine always or really
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(14:52):
voice for radio, so and accent, I will say. So,
we'll be discussing with her all the things that are
happening in the world here shortly. I just want to
add Kamala Harris is also out there. On the one hand,
she's trying to say things that are supposed to clean
up the fact that she was a part of the
Biden cover up. There was a cover up, and she
was the really the principal architect of it. In some ways. Okay,
(15:15):
maybe doctor Jill Biden, But really I think Kamala the
vice president, if anyone's gonna have to go out and
tell everyone, hey, look we needed twenty fifth amendment. This
guy got to be the vice president, right, shouldn't she
have had those conversations didn't remember? They had those conversations
(15:39):
about Trump in the media all the time Trump, who
was fine. Nonetheless, Kamala also wants you to know that
she's uh, she's fired up. She can be a little
salty sometimes. Here she is on the Trump ballroom issue.
Play cut five.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Are you kidding me? This guy wants to create a
ball room for his rich friends while completely turning a
blind eye to the fact that that babies are gonna
starve when the SNAP benefits end in just hours from now.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Come on, so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What I'm not gonna be distracted by? Oh does the
guy have a big hammer? What about those babies?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What about those babies? First of all, it's your Democrat
colleagues that have made the SNAP program run out of money.
They did this part one, Part two. Think about what
she just did there, you know, I mean if I
showed you a photo of Donald Trump eating a cheeseburger,
she gonna be like, oh, there's Trump eating a cheeseburger.
(16:40):
What about all the babies who are starving because they
don't have their parents aren't giving them food because their
food stamps have run out for a day, not even
hasn't even happened yet. What does one thing have to
do with what has nothing to do with the other.
She's not a smart person, she's not a good person.
She's not an impressive person. All well, elevated up. I'm
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just gonna say it, elevated up because of Dei all
the way, and for some other things. I'm not even
gonna get into you, but San Francisco, you know how
she got her political start just a fact, just a fact.
I'm not being uh, you know how it happened, married
guy mayor you know the whole thing. What is the
(17:21):
what is the basis for thinking that Kamala Harris should
be in charge of anyone's anything, given any power whatsoever? Also,
why go on, you're gonna pook tour. You're gonna start
cursing all of us can curse. Why are you doing this?
It's it's public, it's meant to be heard by people.
You're gonna start dropping dropping f bombs here and there
(17:42):
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and Buck. Our friend Miranda Divine joins us now. He's
a host of Pod Force one and she just sat
down with our phenomenal vice president, mister J. D. Vance
(19:09):
to talk about a whole range of things. The first
Miranda Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit. He was at
our Boss and Mentors induction into Radio Hall of Fame
in Chicago, and I got a pass because I'm on
baby sitting duty here for my little one. But he
(19:30):
had our proxy there and he was celebrating, and now
he's trying to get home. It is a mess. I
think Nashville just said that they basically don't have enough
air traffic controllers for the airport to be functioning. Like
what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, it's horrendous, and I think people are fully
grasped how terrible it is. And I have a friend
knew it was shut down last night and I have
a friend who we were doing something last night. She
had to fly out of Newark to Palm Beach for
her mother's birthday party, and all flight were canceled. She
ended up getting a train to new Haven and then
(20:04):
getting one of those cheap Plot flights from there finally
to Palm Beach. She got there at nine point thirty
this morning, so it was, you know, just a twelve
hour ordeal. And it sounds like Clay's going through the
same things. Light a Beach on Sunday to interview somebody there.
It's I mean, I feel like I know the airlines
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have to do it to keep things safe, but when
you have TSA as well, it's not just the flight
air traffic controllers. I have another friend whose family was
coming in from England on the weekend that ended up
having to sit on the plane after that long trip
for an hour on the tarmac because the custom hall
was full. It took them ended up taking them three
(20:50):
hours to get through customs.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah. I bring this up one because it's just I
think everyone can commiserate with travel mind there stories, but
also this is in the past something that has actually
brought really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations. I mean,
is this do you think this could could get the
Democrats to snap out of it sooner than anticipated, or
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do they have some kind of a game plan They're
still running.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well it ought to. We've had all the leaders of
the airlines have come out and said, you know, without
saying well, it's dangerous, just saying this is affecting the economy,
this is hurting people. We've got the snap benefits ending tomorrow,
you know, we have the unions have come out and
they have also pressured the Democrats to end this thing,
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and they just remain implacable because for them, they're just
it's they're losing everything. They don't have anything really to lose,
I guess because they're so they're very lost everything and
they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing
because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration
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from being able to continue on with what they're doing,
whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or
doing any of the things unwinding all the other toxic
policies of the Biden administration. It just puts us spoke
in their wheels, and it also creates anger among their
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voters who they can already have Trump derangement and are
willing to believe the worst. They just lie in gaslight
and tell them, oh, yet, Donald Trump's fault. And so
when the snap money runs out tomorrow and the food
stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery stores have
put security guards around their stores to try and prevent
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people from coming and just taking the stuff. It's really
setting up a really nasty situation, very volatile, and ultimately,
even though the poles are moving against the Democrats, I
feel like things are coming to a head and that
Trump eventually will be blamed. He said today when he
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gave a little gaggle that he's willing to sit down
and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to open
up the country first. They have to end the shutdown,
and he said normally they would have, but they're now crazy,
and I agree with that. I think Chuck Schumer has
gone mad. He's so petrified about the insurgent left on
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his side of the party, especially in New York where
Zaura Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home.
They're all scared. The resident Democrat kind of old guard
who've stuffed everything up until now. And of course you're
going to have young people, young Democrat voters who are
rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything.
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So they're taking things into their own and it's like
a revolution inside the Democrat Party. But unfortunately we're all suffering.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Miranda. I also want to ask you, just because you
have excellent sources in this administration. You just sat down
with JD. Vans for your podcast podforst one. Everyone should
go check out that episode. This reporting about strikes inside
of Venezuela. What kind of credibility do you put on it.
What's your sense as to how imminent that may be.
(24:29):
There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now,
which is not usually where we think of a major
military presence from the US side.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Look, I don't have any inside gossip on that. I'm
a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know,
are we being told the whole truth? You know, is
this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the
country or is it some sort of soft, big beginning
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of a regime change in Venezuela. If that's the case,
we should be told about it up front. And you know,
Donald Trump's got a lot of new plagues just come
back from Asia. I suppose he'll be focusing on this again.
But Marco Rubia, the Secretary of State, is running that
operation along with Pete Hegseth. When they're blowing you know,
(25:21):
boats and submarines out of the water. I mean, that's
all great if they're all drug dealers, but what are
we doing now? Is it really about stopping their cartels
or is there something else? If there's something else, great,
you know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained.
But I think we need to be told a little
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more than we are now because it does sort of
raise a lot of red flags.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Now. In your interview with JD, one thing that I
know you talked about was the very widely watched and
discussed Oval office Zelensky Trump JD verbal Melee Donnybrook cover
One wants to say it, what did you learn from
(26:08):
talking to JD about that? And how do you think
this administration is seeing the Russia Ukraine issue currently?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, well, he was sort of at pains to talk
about the fact that that's in the past. You know,
he said that he sitting there he felt that Zelensky
had been rude to President Trump, and he felt that,
you know, he wanted to make the point that if
any world leader comes to the Oval Office, they owed
the President of the United States an enormous amount of respect,
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and he didn't feel that that was happening. But he
thinks that the relationship has been reset and that while
if you asked him a couple of months ago, did
he think that the prospect of peace was possible, he
said he would have said, no, they're just going to
keep finding it's going to be their Vietnam. And now
(27:00):
he's a little more optimistic. He thinks that there is
a possibility that they can work it through. And you know,
Russia's in transigence, he said, yep, I mean that is
certainly the case. Now it's really one minute you think
you've got one side on the right page, the next
(27:20):
minute you think you've got the other one. It's messy,
it's a to and fro. But he's got faith that
President Trump is going to pull it off. Ultimately.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of Pod four US one,
she just interviewed jd Vance. Go check out her episode
of that one wherever you listen to your podcast and
Miranda something else that came up. We actually have a
cut from your interview and here this is on It's
something that Clay and I see very differently. Let's put
that out there, which is UFOs. Here is JD when
(27:51):
you asked him about this play twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Seven, Chelsey Gavan says that she believes there are aliens.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
You know? It's interesting. I wouldn't say that I do
or don't believe it. I mean, I'm a big believer
that there are things out there that we can't explain,
and so if another person sees an alien, maybe I
see an angel or a demon. So I'm a big
believer that there are like spiritual forces working on the
(28:17):
physical world that a lot of us don't see, and
a lot of us still understand and a lot of
us still appreciate. But you know, is it aliens or
is it our guardian angel? Or is it aliens? Or
is it a not so guardian force that doesn't care
about us or in fact actively wishes this harm. I
don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Interesting because I had people writing in that they said, well,
what you should play that for us? But Miranda, this
is a great opportunity. Clay's not here to defend himself.
I think that there are no aliens or that the
UFO stuff is all over blown nonsense. So you just
agree with me, right, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
No, I don't really, I have an open mind about it.
I think my feeling is just that. Ah. And it
would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent
life forms in the universe.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Ah, you're with Clay on the Oh my god, Clay's
not even here and she's taking his side. This is
so sad.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And look, I grew up reading science fiction avidly, so
I love all of that. But I thought it was interesting,
and you know, he sort of did an intellectual pivot
from the UFOs to the spiritual realm. And I'm totally
with him on that. You know that that there are
(29:33):
things that we cannot explain. Again, it's about humility and
not being arrogant. We can't explain certain things. It's phenomena
in the world around us. And so I do believe
that there is you know, whether it's guardian angels or
demons or whatever it is. I don't think that we
(29:57):
can just assume that everything is just what we see
in front of us. And so I thought it was
interesting and that it went to the heart of his faith,
his Catholic faith. He's a convert. And he talked about
going to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem
last week when he was visiting there and just it
(30:18):
was so moving for him emotionally and spiritually that he
said he wept, And so I thought that was, you know,
a nice side of him to see.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Tell me about the relationship that you got into this
with JD. The relationship between Trump and the president and
President Trump, Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
He's very respectful of him. And he also said that he,
you know, because he had been a never Trumper early on,
and he's changed his mind. He said, in part, he
changed because he realized that President Trump was not an
inter interventionist, was not a regime change by was against war.
(31:01):
JD served in Iraq, is very against war. But he
likes the peace through strength philosophy that President Trump has.
And he talked about how I said, what have you
learned about President Trump that's new and that people might
not know, And he said, well, he's got a very
good heart. And he described how they just had him
(31:22):
for dinner, him and the first lady for dinner at
the Vice President's residents the Naval Observatory, and how they
kept the kids upstairs. They've got three little kids with
the babysitter, because you know, they didn't want them jumping
all over the president. And the President wanted to see
them so and the kids wanted to see him, so
they came down and you know, like JD says, like
(31:44):
their little kids, they're uncontrollable, they're running around, and he said,
President Trump just loved it. You know, they were He
was so kind to them and treated them, you know,
like little human beings, and that he's very grandfatherly and
he's great with kids. And so that was interesting. And
also just what we've all observed is his prodigious work ethic,
(32:07):
the fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this as well,
that on these long trips that he does on Air
Force One, like when he did that Whirlwind Jerusalem Egypt
trip for the Peace Deal, it was thirty hours in
the air there and back, and President Trump didn't sleep,
and everyone else is like going to sleep, and JD says,
(32:29):
you know, he'll come up and sort of prod various
members of his cabinet who might be dozing as it's
they're weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep
and he doesn't. And Carolyn told me, like, he goes
in it's one am, and he decided he was going
to do a press gaggle, and she's like, okay, I'll
have to go and wake them all up.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So that was and the other you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
No. The other interesting thing was I met JD's beautiful
dog at German shepherd called Atlas, and just a sort
of an adolescent about eighteen months and very fit, but
also incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him, And so
I sort of made a quick about the Secret Service
(33:15):
agents who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral
German shepherd's commander and major who were attacking the agent's
left fronts and are drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes,
and Jad said yes and laughed and said yeah, well
a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to
(33:37):
him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved,
and he is, and I think it says a lot
about you know, you can tell what German.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Ship is huge. It's a huge indicator. Miranda. I know,
I'm a big dog person. We have a dog here.
I grew up with dogs. You give me some time
with someone's dog. I know a lot about the household.
I know about you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety.
I know, but whether they're structure. I know about whether
people are kind. I mean, the dog tells you a
lot about a household. So that's very interesting about Jad's
(34:08):
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Have a fantastic weekend.
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Thanks so much, fucking huge. Clay gets back quickly.
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here for the weekend, and we're gonna get some of
your talkbacks real quick, like GG Reese and Charleston hit It.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
This is Reese from Charleston, South Carolina. I do agree Reese.
My name is Reese, and I love Reese's peanut buttercuffs.
But the caveat you gotta put them in the freezer. Oh,
I love them cold.
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Uh.
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One hundred. I don't even know what a hundred grand
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Guy?
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Is this a good thing? And the frozen recees that
feels like that would hurt my teeth? No, it's so
it's good. I should do the frozen raeses. Maybe I'll
just put it in some ice cream this weekend, just
to test it out, just to test it out. I
also want to say happy birthday, Mom, love you, best
mom ever. Her birthday is tomorrow, but I won't be
on radio, so yay, happy birthday to Mom and I play.
(36:38):
I will be back Monday. He's probably gonna be in
transit for like the next thirty six hours to get
back to Nashville from Chicago. So thoughts and prayers up
with Clay on that one. We'll talk to you. Have
a great weekend, everybody. Thanks for hanging
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, last
hour before we send you off for a wonderful weekend.
You just heard from our man Clay stuck in a
situation at the Chicago airport because of the shut down.
And I am sure you know, whenever you're in a
(00:20):
messy airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what
it is, that's bad sign, right, bad enough when they're like, well,
we've got some weather coming in, whatever it is, when
you're just being told, yeah, we don't know, man, you
might have to camp out here. Maybe time to get
that sleeping pad and unroll it, you know, maybe time
to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow and
(00:43):
lie on the ground. Don't worry. Chick fil A will
open at some point, you know. That's that's where things
are because of the government shutdown. The air traffic controllers
are very annoyed about this situation, as they well be.
But I want to take you on a journey of
(01:05):
sorts into what may be the most self defeating and
self pitying book tour of all time, certainly high on
the list, I know it is not, in fact, Karen
Jean Pierre Cree Jean Pierre. I think we all get
what's going on with that one, with that situation of
(01:27):
the book tour. She's an independent. Now you are the
press secretary for Joe Biden. Now you're independent. You've left
the Democrat You've left the Democrat Party because they finally
couldn't prop up your boss anymore. Whom you Quree Jean Pierre,
were lying to the American people about you Cree Jean Pierre,
who said that it was a cheap fake when people
(01:50):
shared video of the president having cognitive issues, cognitive breakdown.
You ukoine Jean Pierre now would lecture us about how
the Democrat Party abandoned him. Were they not supposed to?
What exactly did she want them to do? She doesn't
even know, she doesn't know. Makes no sense, But Kamala Harris,
(02:15):
she's not just hoping to cash out on a pretty
weak book tour and do the speaking circuit for a
bit and then get some gig at MSNBC. No, Kamala
Harris does think that she should have a leadership role
in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for the country.
Kamala Harris wants to be make no mistake, wants to
(02:37):
be president of these United States. But she's got a problem.
She's Kamala Harris, same person that we saw in this
last election. It's not that we didn't know what we
were dealing with. It's not that the American people weren't
aware of Kamala Harris. It is in fact that she
(02:58):
has tremendous deficiencies. And here is John Stewart, propagandist of
the left, John Stuart, as he is talking to Comboll.
This has cut four about whether Biden was competent to
serve or not. Listen to this exchange part of the
(03:20):
book tour play.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
For I believe he was fully competent to serve.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Do you really? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I do.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That surprises me. Actually no, I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But there's a distinction to be made between running for
president and being president.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
What's the distinction, Well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Being a candidate for president the United States is about
being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes
thrown at you every step you take. That sounds lovely, Yeah,
it's more than a notion.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Get involved in public service, ladies.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And gentlemen, and to be the seated president, the sitting
president while doing that, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's all, yeah, it's I think it's a hard case
to make for people that he didn't have the stamina
to run, but he had the stamina to govern, because
I think most people view the presidency as a marathon
run at a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In terms of governance, John Stewart way too gentle. He's
a propagandist, way too gentle with commaladers. This is moronic.
I mean, this is just insulting to the intelligence of
everybody's watching. Oh, Joe Biden, it's okay for him to
be commander in chief. It's okay for him to be
(04:35):
the one who would uh be responding to a possible
attack on the United States, an act of war, making
decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions
of people around the world. That he had plenty of
plenty of gas in the tank for that. But to
(04:57):
show up, remember he's being ferried by Air Force one.
I mean, to show up to give some speeches. He
took it all the way to June, my friends. So
we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties
weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee
(05:17):
from June to November, but they were strong enough for
him to be president president in June and therefore in
twenty twenty twenty twenty five as.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, because right what would be the the only thing
that he wasn't able to do according to Kamala, who
is Who's an absurd person?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Absurd John Stewart, not the tough case. Yeah, please, it's idiotic, John,
And you know it. Where is the difference. He's president
in June of twenty four, He's fine to do that.
He's gonna be fine then to be president in January
of twenty five. But it's the whole campaigning thing in
(06:04):
between that he can't handle. That was the part of
it that he wasn't up for. And let me remind
you that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue. What
we saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald
Trump was somebody who has some stage or some level
(06:24):
of dementia, which means that his brain is not functioning,
his decision making is not functioning as it should, which
we also know because he had outsourced his presidency to
the advisors around him. All of this adds up. But
Kamala is out there trying to say, Oh, the problem
(06:48):
wasn't Joe Biden's ability to think it was he needed
more nap time to get through the campaign. You know,
it's just not gonna work. We're not all that dumb.
We know what they did, we know the big lies
they all told. And they're trying to in some way,
(07:08):
they're trying to push away that humiliation that stink of
being so utterly mendacious. But this is what happened. They
lied to the American people about it. And one of
the big problems they have is the person who should
be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats,
(07:31):
the former vice president, the former nominee, Kamala Harris, is
completely tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden.
And then we get to well, also, Kamala, why is
it that the American people, I mean, you lost every
(07:51):
swing state to Trump. People know who you are, You're
the vice president. Why weren't you able to do it?
John Stewart continuing on, I said, he's being as friendly
and gentle to Kamala as he can be, but he
doesn't want to just look like a total clown buffoon
himself here. He is this has cut six why do
you lose? Kamala. Here's her explanation. Listen to it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I do believe one of the biggest factors that was
at play in one hundred and seven days we just
didn't have enough time. We didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Or was it too much time.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I mean, if you had done the election after sixty days,
I think you went honestly, there was a there seemed
like a stagnation point, and then if you look at
the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, but there's so many variables that went into the
outcome of that race. Because you can also look at
where you started to see an infusion of resources going
into missing disinformation. I talk about, for example, the Elon
Musk factor in the book. You can look at that
there were certain inflection points that had an impact on
(08:58):
the race, and you point it was as David Pluff said,
it was those those traditional inflection points, and there were others.
So I don't want to reduce what we need to
do going forward to any one factor around what we
could have done better, what I could have done better
in those one hundred and seven days, what was happening
(09:19):
before I think there are multitude of factors that all
need to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Misinformation and disinformation. She's really gonna go there, she's gonna do.
She's gonna pull that one.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation. That's
why she lost. And she didn't lose by a little bit. Also,
I understand the aggregate vote total. You can say, but
that's not the election. That's one. It's electoral college. And
she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump. Everyone.
(09:50):
He was indicted four times by the sham deep state
loser prosecutors, He survived a bullet through his ear, another
assassination attempt, the entirety of the legacy media throwing all
of their credibility in one giant bonfire in an effort
to stop Trump. And she got absolutely crushed by him
(10:11):
in this election. And she takes, you'll notice, no accountability
for it. Have you heard her say anything like, you know,
I made a mistake. I read her book, by the way,
which was written for her by other people. Have you
heard her say that I made a huge error about anything?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did she learn anything from this process? No, it's always
someone else's fault. It's always things outside her control. It's
sexism or racism, or Trump is a more disinformation or
misinformation or what about Kamma, You're just not very good
at this and you were able to ride a wave
(10:54):
of DEI in the Democrat Party that was willing to
push be both through the very heights of power based
upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity,
and that the American people have decided that we've had
(11:15):
enough of that and that we should all we should
just judge people by who they are, man or woman,
any race. What are your capabilities, what's your skill set?
What do you bring to the table? Bringing diversity to
the table is not meaningful to people who care about
those other things. This is the big change and this
(11:38):
is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating.
And I might add one in which you are held
accountable and responsible for what you do as a person,
your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic. Kamala wants to
whine about how she's a victim. She's the former vice
president of the United States, was handed hand the Democrat nomination,
(12:02):
which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do, and
now she complains about it and everybody else I read
her book, everybody else makes mistakes, everybody else did the
dumb things. She doesn't say never mind, I'm sorry. She
doesn't say I'll do better next time in any meaningful way,
or I'll change Remember what she said about Biden? Would
(12:23):
you change anything about Biden? No, because she just thinks
she's supposed to win for showing up. The people in
charge are supposed to tell her how great she is
and that she now has all this power. And this
election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her, is a
repudiation of the world that she had been living in before,
(12:44):
at least in her own mind, and certainly in the
state of California, where she just gets to show up
and that's enough. She doesn't have to be impressive, she
doesn't have to be good. She just has to be
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are
going to get to some of your calls and also
some of your talkbacks. But want to tell you that
we're going to have Miranda Devine with us shortly here
to talk about her interview with JD Vance and just
everything else that's going on. Miranda Vine always or really
worthwhile and fun conversation, has a cool voice too, good
(14:52):
voice for radio, so and accent, I will say. So,
we'll be discussing with her all the things that are
happening in the world here shortly. I just want to
add Kamala Harris is also out there. On the one hand,
she's trying to say things that are supposed to clean
up the fact that she was a part of the
Biden cover up. There was a cover up, and she
was the really the principal architect of it. In some ways. Okay,
(15:15):
maybe doctor Jill Biden, But really I think Kamala the
vice president, if anyone's gonna have to go out and
tell everyone, hey, look we needed twenty fifth amendment. This
guy got to be the vice president, right, shouldn't she
have had those conversations didn't remember? They had those conversations
(15:39):
about Trump in the media all the time Trump, who
was fine. Nonetheless, Kamala also wants you to know that
she's uh, she's fired up. She can be a little
salty sometimes. Here she is on the Trump ballroom issue.
Play cut five.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Are you kidding me? This guy wants to create a
ball room for his rich friends while completely turning a
blind eye to the fact that that babies are gonna
starve when the SNAP benefits end in just hours from now.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Come on, so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What I'm not gonna be distracted by? Oh does the
guy have a big hammer? What about those babies?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What about those babies? First of all, it's your Democrat
colleagues that have made the SNAP program run out of money.
They did this part one, Part two. Think about what
she just did there, you know, I mean if I
showed you a photo of Donald Trump eating a cheeseburger,
she gonna be like, oh, there's Trump eating a cheeseburger.
(16:40):
What about all the babies who are starving because they
don't have their parents aren't giving them food because their
food stamps have run out for a day, not even
hasn't even happened yet. What does one thing have to
do with what has nothing to do with the other.
She's not a smart person, she's not a good person.
She's not an impressive person. All well, elevated up. I'm
(17:01):
just gonna say it, elevated up because of Dei all
the way, and for some other things. I'm not even
gonna get into you, but San Francisco, you know how
she got her political start just a fact, just a fact.
I'm not being uh, you know how it happened, married
guy mayor you know the whole thing. What is the
(17:21):
what is the basis for thinking that Kamala Harris should
be in charge of anyone's anything, given any power whatsoever? Also,
why go on, you're gonna pook tour. You're gonna start
cursing all of us can curse. Why are you doing this?
It's it's public, it's meant to be heard by people.
You're gonna start dropping dropping f bombs here and there
(17:42):
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and Buck. Our friend Miranda Divine joins us now. He's
a host of Pod Force one and she just sat
down with our phenomenal vice president, mister J. D. Vance
(19:09):
to talk about a whole range of things. The first
Miranda Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit. He was at
our Boss and Mentors induction into Radio Hall of Fame
in Chicago, and I got a pass because I'm on
baby sitting duty here for my little one. But he
(19:30):
had our proxy there and he was celebrating, and now
he's trying to get home. It is a mess. I
think Nashville just said that they basically don't have enough
air traffic controllers for the airport to be functioning. Like
what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I mean, it's horrendous, and I think people are fully
grasped how terrible it is. And I have a friend
knew it was shut down last night and I have
a friend who we were doing something last night. She
had to fly out of Newark to Palm Beach for
her mother's birthday party, and all flight were canceled. She
ended up getting a train to new Haven and then
(20:04):
getting one of those cheap Plot flights from there finally
to Palm Beach. She got there at nine point thirty
this morning, so it was, you know, just a twelve
hour ordeal. And it sounds like Clay's going through the
same things. Light a Beach on Sunday to interview somebody there.
It's I mean, I feel like I know the airlines
(20:28):
have to do it to keep things safe, but when
you have TSA as well, it's not just the flight
air traffic controllers. I have another friend whose family was
coming in from England on the weekend that ended up
having to sit on the plane after that long trip
for an hour on the tarmac because the custom hall
was full. It took them ended up taking them three
(20:50):
hours to get through customs.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah. I bring this up one because it's just I
think everyone can commiserate with travel mind there stories, but
also this is in the past something that has actually
brought really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations. I mean,
is this do you think this could could get the
Democrats to snap out of it sooner than anticipated, or
(21:18):
do they have some kind of a game plan They're
still running.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Well it ought to. We've had all the leaders of
the airlines have come out and said, you know, without
saying well, it's dangerous, just saying this is affecting the economy,
this is hurting people. We've got the snap benefits ending tomorrow,
you know, we have the unions have come out and
they have also pressured the Democrats to end this thing,
(21:44):
and they just remain implacable because for them, they're just
it's they're losing everything. They don't have anything really to lose,
I guess because they're so they're very lost everything and
they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing
because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration
(22:07):
from being able to continue on with what they're doing,
whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or
doing any of the things unwinding all the other toxic
policies of the Biden administration. It just puts us spoke
in their wheels, and it also creates anger among their
(22:28):
voters who they can already have Trump derangement and are
willing to believe the worst. They just lie in gaslight
and tell them, oh, yet, Donald Trump's fault. And so
when the snap money runs out tomorrow and the food
stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery stores have
put security guards around their stores to try and prevent
(22:50):
people from coming and just taking the stuff. It's really
setting up a really nasty situation, very volatile, and ultimately,
even though the poles are moving against the Democrats, I
feel like things are coming to a head and that
Trump eventually will be blamed. He said today when he
(23:12):
gave a little gaggle that he's willing to sit down
and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to open
up the country first. They have to end the shutdown,
and he said normally they would have, but they're now crazy,
and I agree with that. I think Chuck Schumer has
gone mad. He's so petrified about the insurgent left on
(23:34):
his side of the party, especially in New York where
Zaura Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home.
They're all scared. The resident Democrat kind of old guard
who've stuffed everything up until now. And of course you're
going to have young people, young Democrat voters who are
rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything.
(23:57):
So they're taking things into their own and it's like
a revolution inside the Democrat Party. But unfortunately we're all suffering.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Miranda. I also want to ask you, just because you
have excellent sources in this administration. You just sat down
with JD. Vans for your podcast podforst one. Everyone should
go check out that episode. This reporting about strikes inside
of Venezuela. What kind of credibility do you put on it.
What's your sense as to how imminent that may be.
(24:29):
There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now,
which is not usually where we think of a major
military presence from the US side.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Look, I don't have any inside gossip on that. I'm
a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know,
are we being told the whole truth? You know, is
this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the
country or is it some sort of soft, big beginning
(25:00):
of a regime change in Venezuela. If that's the case,
we should be told about it up front. And you know,
Donald Trump's got a lot of new plagues just come
back from Asia. I suppose he'll be focusing on this again.
But Marco Rubia, the Secretary of State, is running that
operation along with Pete Hegseth. When they're blowing you know,
(25:21):
boats and submarines out of the water. I mean, that's
all great if they're all drug dealers, but what are
we doing now? Is it really about stopping their cartels
or is there something else? If there's something else, great,
you know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained.
But I think we need to be told a little
(25:42):
more than we are now because it does sort of
raise a lot of red flags.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Now. In your interview with JD, one thing that I
know you talked about was the very widely watched and
discussed Oval office Zelensky Trump JD verbal Melee Donnybrook cover
One wants to say it, what did you learn from
(26:08):
talking to JD about that? And how do you think
this administration is seeing the Russia Ukraine issue currently?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, well, he was sort of at pains to talk
about the fact that that's in the past. You know,
he said that he sitting there he felt that Zelensky
had been rude to President Trump, and he felt that,
you know, he wanted to make the point that if
any world leader comes to the Oval Office, they owed
the President of the United States an enormous amount of respect,
(26:40):
and he didn't feel that that was happening. But he
thinks that the relationship has been reset and that while
if you asked him a couple of months ago, did
he think that the prospect of peace was possible, he
said he would have said, no, they're just going to
keep finding it's going to be their Vietnam. And now
(27:00):
he's a little more optimistic. He thinks that there is
a possibility that they can work it through. And you know,
Russia's in transigence, he said, yep, I mean that is
certainly the case. Now it's really one minute you think
you've got one side on the right page, the next
(27:20):
minute you think you've got the other one. It's messy,
it's a to and fro. But he's got faith that
President Trump is going to pull it off. Ultimately.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of Pod four US one,
she just interviewed jd Vance. Go check out her episode
of that one wherever you listen to your podcast and
Miranda something else that came up. We actually have a
cut from your interview and here this is on It's
something that Clay and I see very differently. Let's put
that out there, which is UFOs. Here is JD when
(27:51):
you asked him about this play twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Seven, Chelsey Gavan says that she believes there are aliens.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 6 (27:57):
You know? It's interesting. I wouldn't say that I do
or don't believe it. I mean, I'm a big believer
that there are things out there that we can't explain,
and so if another person sees an alien, maybe I
see an angel or a demon. So I'm a big
believer that there are like spiritual forces working on the
(28:17):
physical world that a lot of us don't see, and
a lot of us still understand and a lot of
us still appreciate. But you know, is it aliens or
is it our guardian angel? Or is it aliens? Or
is it a not so guardian force that doesn't care
about us or in fact actively wishes this harm. I
don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Interesting because I had people writing in that they said, well,
what you should play that for us? But Miranda, this
is a great opportunity. Clay's not here to defend himself.
I think that there are no aliens or that the
UFO stuff is all over blown nonsense. So you just
agree with me, right, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
No, I don't really, I have an open mind about it.
I think my feeling is just that. Ah. And it
would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent
life forms in the universe.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Ah, you're with Clay on the Oh my god, Clay's
not even here and she's taking his side. This is
so sad.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And look, I grew up reading science fiction avidly, so
I love all of that. But I thought it was interesting,
and you know, he sort of did an intellectual pivot
from the UFOs to the spiritual realm. And I'm totally
with him on that. You know that that there are
(29:33):
things that we cannot explain. Again, it's about humility and
not being arrogant. We can't explain certain things. It's phenomena
in the world around us. And so I do believe
that there is you know, whether it's guardian angels or
demons or whatever it is. I don't think that we
(29:57):
can just assume that everything is just what we see
in front of us. And so I thought it was
interesting and that it went to the heart of his faith,
his Catholic faith. He's a convert. And he talked about
going to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem
last week when he was visiting there and just it
(30:18):
was so moving for him emotionally and spiritually that he
said he wept, And so I thought that was, you know,
a nice side of him to see.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Tell me about the relationship that you got into this
with JD. The relationship between Trump and the president and
President Trump, Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
He's very respectful of him. And he also said that he,
you know, because he had been a never Trumper early on,
and he's changed his mind. He said, in part, he
changed because he realized that President Trump was not an
inter interventionist, was not a regime change by was against war.
(31:01):
JD served in Iraq, is very against war. But he
likes the peace through strength philosophy that President Trump has.
And he talked about how I said, what have you
learned about President Trump that's new and that people might
not know, And he said, well, he's got a very
good heart. And he described how they just had him
(31:22):
for dinner, him and the first lady for dinner at
the Vice President's residents the Naval Observatory, and how they
kept the kids upstairs. They've got three little kids with
the babysitter, because you know, they didn't want them jumping
all over the president. And the President wanted to see
them so and the kids wanted to see him, so
they came down and you know, like JD says, like
(31:44):
their little kids, they're uncontrollable, they're running around, and he said,
President Trump just loved it. You know, they were He
was so kind to them and treated them, you know,
like little human beings, and that he's very grandfatherly and
he's great with kids. And so that was interesting. And
also just what we've all observed is his prodigious work ethic,
(32:07):
the fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this as well,
that on these long trips that he does on Air
Force One, like when he did that Whirlwind Jerusalem Egypt
trip for the Peace Deal, it was thirty hours in
the air there and back, and President Trump didn't sleep,
and everyone else is like going to sleep, and JD says,
(32:29):
you know, he'll come up and sort of prod various
members of his cabinet who might be dozing as it's
they're weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep
and he doesn't. And Carolyn told me, like, he goes
in it's one am, and he decided he was going
to do a press gaggle, and she's like, okay, I'll
have to go and wake them all up.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So that was and the other you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
No. The other interesting thing was I met JD's beautiful
dog at German shepherd called Atlas, and just a sort
of an adolescent about eighteen months and very fit, but
also incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him, And so
I sort of made a quick about the Secret Service
(33:15):
agents who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral
German shepherd's commander and major who were attacking the agent's
left fronts and are drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes,
and Jad said yes and laughed and said yeah, well
a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to
(33:37):
him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved,
and he is, and I think it says a lot
about you know, you can tell what German.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Ship is huge. It's a huge indicator. Miranda. I know,
I'm a big dog person. We have a dog here.
I grew up with dogs. You give me some time
with someone's dog. I know a lot about the household.
I know about you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety.
I know, but whether they're structure. I know about whether
people are kind. I mean, the dog tells you a
lot about a household. So that's very interesting about Jad's
(34:08):
German shepherd. Go check out Podforce one. Randa, divine always excellent.
Have a fantastic weekend.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Thanks so much, fucking huge. Clay gets back quickly.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, me too. I'm not betting on it. I'm hoping though,
that he managed to get through. Thank you. Look, I'm
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Speaker 1 (35:39):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're closing up shop
here for the weekend, and we're gonna get some of
your talkbacks real quick, like GG Reese and Charleston hit It.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
This is Reese from Charleston, South Carolina. I do agree Reese.
My name is Reese, and I love Reese's peanut buttercuffs.
But the caveat you gotta put them in the freezer. Oh,
I love them cold.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Number two draft pick would be the thousand or one
hundred grand bars. That's the next best one.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
One hundred. I don't even know what a hundred grand
bar is? What is that?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Is this a good thing? And the frozen recees that
feels like that would hurt my teeth? No, it's so
it's good. I should do the frozen raeses. Maybe I'll
just put it in some ice cream this weekend, just
to test it out, just to test it out. I
also want to say happy birthday, Mom, love you, best
mom ever. Her birthday is tomorrow, but I won't be
on radio, so yay, happy birthday to Mom and I play.
(36:38):
I will be back Monday. He's probably gonna be in
transit for like the next thirty six hours to get
back to Nashville from Chicago. So thoughts and prayers up
with Clay on that one. We'll talk to you. Have
a great weekend, everybody. Thanks for hanging
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