May 31, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump national press secretary Karoline Leavitt joins Clay and Buck to discuss the Trump verdict, the campaign's massive fundraising haul in the last 24 hours and what comes next for the campaign. The View's Sunny Hostin says black women will make black men vote for Biden. Biden's approval much lower than last 3 incumbent presidents who lost. Clay and Buck end the show talking with passionate callers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back. In Final Hour of the Week, Clay Travis
bock Sexton show many of you furious, anger, beyond belief
over the thirty four felony convictions against Donald Trump yesterday
in a New York City courtroom. Caroline Levitt is with
the Trump campaign. She is their spokesperson. She would have
a substantial role in any Trump twenty twenty four victory,
(00:24):
which we are all rooting for. Caroline, A lot of
anger out there, but I actually want to start with
something that was super positive to come out of this. Already,
the Trump campaign says they raised thirty four point eight
million dollars in the immediate aftermath of this trial verdict,
and twenty nine point seven percent of those dollars were
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from entirely new donors. What can you tell us about
the unprecedented financial response in favor of Trump and how
have things gone since you guys put out that press release.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yes, that is one hundred percent right. We are already
seeing this trial, this conviction, this unprecedented witch hunt backfire
on Joe Biden in the corrupt Democrat party that brought
this case against President Trump. We raised, as you just said,
thirty four point eight million dollars in six hours from
the time the verdicts came down to midnight last night.
(01:20):
That is how much money we raise from grassroots patriots
across this country who have watched this case for six
weeks and are in shock about what has become of
our justice system in this corrupt regime that we are
living in right now. This is not a constitutional republic,
I hate to break it to your audience. We are
living in a regime that is led by people who
(01:43):
do not care about our country, do not care about us.
All they care about is power and control, and that's
what we've seen over the last six weeks take place.
And we already saw a poll out this morning as
well that shows President Trump leading Joe Biden by six
points already, So we know that this thing will continue
to backfire as it has over the last six weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Caroline, you have at least between now and July eleventh,
I would assume for President Trump to be pretty free
out on the campaign. Can you give us a sense
just a preview of now that he doesn't have to
show up in this courthouse every day. What are the
plans like and what's some of the strategy going forward?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, We're going to get back on the campaign. True,
we already are. We are going to continue to hold rallies,
We're going to continue to hold events, we are going
to continue to fundraise that you'll see President Trump out
there as he has been. And you know, this trial
at the beginning, everyone thought, oh, it's going to slow
him down, and sure, yeah. I mean we were confined
into a dirty, disgusting courtroom for more than eight hours
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a day, four days a week.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm not gonna lie, okay, but guess what. President Trump
made the most of it, and he continued to get
out there and fight, and we held rallies in the
Bronx with five thousand people, a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey,
record breaking one hundred thousand person crowd. President Trump, you know,
going to Bodegas and Harlem, visiting construction workers in Midtown,
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still doing rallies in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, making the most
of the cards he's been dealt. And he's going to
continue to do that, and we'll see him. You will
see him back on the campaign trail very very soon.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Caroline, what can you tell us? We've had Trump on
the program quite a lot over the years. But one
thing that continues to stagger both Buck and and me
is the amount of energy that he has. And really,
I mean, he's seventy seven, having people throw body blows
at him every single day, and he seems just to
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never tire. What is it like for you? I think
you're what twenty six years old? By the way, congrats,
I know you are pregnant, so I imagine that you've
got a little bit on your shoulders as well in
addition to being in the middle of the campaign. But
what can you tell us about the energy and the
will that you see from this guy to be taking
the punches that he does, and the severity of those
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punches and still go out and fight every day.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It is incredibly inspiring to witness President Trump's resolve and
his determination and his tenacity in the face of unprecedented attacks.
No person, arguably in American history, has been attacked and
smeared and lied about and investigated more than Donald Trump.
(04:33):
Yet he continues to get up every single day and fight.
And you know, yesterday when the conviction came down, we
all had to sit there. He himself included here they
were guilty thirty four times in a row from a
jury who we knew was not going to be fair,
over with a judge sitting in that courtroom smirking, who
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we know is highly conflicted and crooked and partisan, with
a case that was brought by a Democrat prosecutor who
hates Donald Trump and has made that very clear. This
thing was rigged from the beginning. And he had to
sit there and hear guilty thirty four times in a row.
And we walked out of that courtroom in disgust. We
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were angry, we were somber, and we turned to him
and he looked at us and said, I'm going to
go to the cameras and we're going to continue to fight.
And he drove that message, and within minutes of hearing
that that's what he did, he addressed the American people
and said, I am doing this for our constitution in
our country. Anyone else facing what Donald Trump has would
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fold like a deck of cards. But he gets up
and he fights again, and it's because he knows he
has the truth on his side, and he knows that
he is the man for the job right now who
can fix this country and all of the crises that
Joe Biden has created. I mean, not only are we
witnessing the abuse of our legal system, we have a
wide open border allowing terrorists and criminals into our country.
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Our economy is in shambles, record high inflation, the worst
inflation crisis in a generation. Hard working Americans can hardly
afford to live. And this is what Crooked Joe and
the Democrats are focused on. It's disgusting, but it fires
President Trump up to fight, and I'm honored to work
for him and call him my boss. And in your audience,
every single person listening to this right now should be
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honored that they have someone in this country who loves
them enough and loves this country enough to go through this.
And we need everyone's support. This guy can't do it alone.
And we need people to continue to donate on our website,
we need people to sign up to volunteer. I mean,
he says it all the time, and it's true. November
the fifth is the most important election in our lifetimes.
And if we don't win, America as we know her
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and we love her will cease to exist. And that's
that is a sad thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Speaking to Caroline Levitt, National Press Secretary for the Trump
campaign a caroline to that end of what you just said.
You're twenty six years old, You're among the most visible
people in this Trump campaign. How do you approach now
the realization that you're not just trying to win a
presidential contest, which is quite an undertaking in and of itself,
(07:12):
but you your team President Trump are really trying to
preserve the country that we live in.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's a challenge, but it's a challenge that we have
to win. And we have a fearless leader in President Trump, who,
like I said, calls the shots, and we are here
to execute his mission. And as his spokesperson, it's my
job to go out there and message effectively the message
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that he wants to say. And you know what, it's
easy to do when you have a boss and a
leader who is so fearless and again who has the
truth on his side and who has the best record
to stand on. I mean, look at what President Trump
accomplished in his first term in office. We had a
secure border, Our Connie was booming, The world feared us,
and he was the first president ever to not get
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us into any new wars. And you look at the
contrast in Joe Biden's America. Our border again is wide open,
economy and shambles. We're on the break of World War three.
I mean, even with all of this, I would rather
be President Trump's spokesperson than Joe Biden's any day of
the week, every day for the rest of my life.
Because President Trump has a record, and he has a
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vision for this country. He has integrity, he has conviction.
Joe Biden is crooked and corrupt, and he's a liar,
and he is the weakest and most incoonfident at president
this country has ever seen.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Caroline, what'd you think of roberts in hero?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, that was something I'll tell you. We actually got
tipped off by a nice friendly source outside the courthouse
that the Biden campaign was going to be hosting that
press conference. So myself and my colleagues we headed outside
to punch back, of course, in true President Trump's fashion,
and they were teasing a special guest. We didn't know
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it was gonna be. All of a sudden, we see
a sloppy de Niro shuffling out of time.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I mean, sorry, just for you though, you're twenty six
when you see Robert Danier. Buck and I were talking
about this, like, if Leonardo DiCaprio rolled up bucket Eye
around the same age, would be like, Okay, that guy's
a badass, Like, at least he's the best actor right now.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Maybe I wouldn't call him a badass. I would just
say he's famous. But yeah, well I.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Think I think Leonardo Okay, I think Leonardo DiCaprio is
a badass, even though I think he's crazy on some
political issues in his profession, he's a badass. But Caroline,
you're twenty six. What Robert de Niro's eighty?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Did you think it was kind of like a they
hadn't done a press conference and then they finally decided
to do one. Did you feel like it was kind
of it felt fake to me that they would decide
that Robert de Niro was their leader.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
It was.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It was mind boggling to see him. He came out
of the car with a mascot. We're all like, is
that Robert de Niro? What the heck or these people doing?
And then he goes on an unhinged tirade about Donald Trump.
And you could see in the Biden staffer's faces by
the way that it immediately is as Denira started spiraling
out of control, they knew it was a bad idea.
I mean, the whole thing just looks jay z it
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was disastrous. He was like going after our supporters, pointing
his finger in their faces.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Is there any chance in your mind, Caroline that like,
could that have happened without Joe Biden knowing about it
at all? Meaning the approval of de Niro as their spokesman.
Would that just be somebody on the campaign or do
you think that Biden was like, yeah, that'll do, that'll
be the ticket.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, look who knows. I mean, was Biden awake early
enough to approve that? I'm not sure, but certainly it came.
You know, his campaign knows what they're doing, and they
had said this entire trial, it's not political, we have
nothing to do with it. Their press conference with Robert
De Niro was a concession that they have everything to
do with this trial, in this case that has been
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brought forward.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Caroline, fantastic stuff. As always, We will talk to you
again soon. Do you know boy or girl yet? By
the way, on the baby and what's the delivery date?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, i am I'm having a boy, firstborn son, very
excited about it, and we'll be having him in a
few weeks. I'm like six weeks thousand my due date,
and I, oh, wow, I'm doing this. Don't know how
I'm doing this all, but we were fighting through. Like
you said, we're fighting fighting for the country, and I'm
very excited to the boy. God knows we need more
strong men in this country and I look forward to
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raising one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
That is awesome. Congratulations on the baby. I can't believe
that you are fighting this hard six weeks out from
the due date. That could be, by the way, right
around July fourth, Right, you could have a July fourth birthday.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I could, and it would be very brand, very unbrand
for me to have my baby on fourth of July.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Amen, good luck, Thank you, Caroline.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thanks guys, We'll talk toune for sure.
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Speaker 3 (13:40):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We had mentioned this
earlier in the week and hadn't really spend too much
time on it yet. But one of the concerns that
the Democrats clearly have is that Joe Biden is losing
support among black voters, particularly among black young, black male voters,
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and that that is a demographic that if he underperforms
with he may lose the election. Really based on that,
and over at the view where they're not exactly crunching
the numbers and looking at all the data, but they
are giving you something of the Democrat the Democrat consensus
on some of these things. You have Sonny Houston who
(14:25):
is just outright dismissing this very notion.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He's probably upset with you about something too, because you're
just being Clay like these days. She's outright dismissing the
idea that has been raised about the possibility of black
men voting for Trump.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Play twenty five eighty three percent of black registered voters
identify as or lean Democratic eighty one percent of Black men,
eighty one percent are in the Democratic Party. So I
don't want to hear any more that black men are
voting for Trump. Black women resoundingly will show up for Biden,
and they're going to bring their sons, They're going to
bring their grandsons, They're going to bring their husbands, and
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the Black vote will turn out and Biden.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I think she may be right, Clay, But convince me
that she's wrong, meaning that I think that the Black
vote for Biden may still be as reliable as that
has been in previous elections. But tell me otherwise, because
some of the data is indicating that right now there
is weakness for Biden among blackmail voters.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I've been saying for some time that I believe twenty
five percent of black men will vote for Biden will
vote for Trump, which would be an earth shattering movement
in many ways. I think she's right about black women.
They're the most reliable voting group for Democrats in the
entire country. I think it's going to be hard to
get them to move. Biden put Katanji Brown Jackson on
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the Supreme Court. He made Kamala Harris his vice president.
I believe that he is going to do well with
black women. Not to say that some who are listening
to us right now are not going to be in
the Trump camp, but I think it's going to be
harder in general for Trump to have appeal for women.
I think men, though, are breaking overwhelmingly for Trump, and
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I think that's because there is a feminine quality to
the Democrat Party right now that men reject. And I
talked about this at a Marsha Blackburn event recently in Washington,
d C. Her reelection event that that I spoke at
Black men, Asian men, Hispanic men, and white men overwhelmingly
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reject this idea that men should be able to identify
as women and win women's championships. For men, this is
like a ninety five to five to ninety ten issue,
and I think it's a direct attack on masculinity that
has been aided and embedded in many ways by the
Democrat Party. And I think there's a cultural disassociation happening
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across the gender line that overwhelmingly men are rejecting the
Democrat Party and the Dylan Mulvaney's of the world and
the hey, I have a period and I'm a woman
and guys are like, what this is crazy talk, And
so I think black guys are responsive to it. I
think Hispanic guys, Asian guys, women aren't too. But I
think in particular, the Republican Party has become the party
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of men and the Democrat Party has become the party
of women. And I think black men are going to
break in a big way for Republicans. And I hope
Sonny Hostin is wrong. We have a clip that I'm
going to play for you when we come back. Buck,
I don't know if you've even seen this yet, of
Joy Behar reacting to the news that Donald Trump had
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Clayan Buck, Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. You're gonna
take a couple of your calls here in a moment,
and I want to hit you with one little detail
here that I was just checking out, and it has
to do with current popularity at this time in the
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office holding that is three years and a half into
your presidency for the presidents that ended up losing. This
is where they were. The elected presidents who lost. Jimmy
Carter's net approval rating minus eight point nine at this
point in time, Trump minus ten point three, George H. W.
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Bush minus eleven point nine, Joe Biden minus eighteen point five.
So the three losers in their reelection bids were all
three way more popular than Joe Biden is right now,
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still five months ish to go, but Biden the least
popular incumbent president by a large margin according to the
five thirty eight Gauge of approval ratings. We got a
bunch of people who want to weigh in that have
been waiting with us Dan in Birmingham, Alabama. What you
got for us?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey, guys, Buck, I know Clay side to educate you
in all things SEC and Clay seems to be a
reasonable Tennessee fan, But I want you to know that
it's a bit of an aberration. Usually reasonable Tennessee fan,
that's an oxymoron. So you have an exceptional situation with Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I appreciate, really, I appreciate all the time. I'm glad
to be on with you real simply put here, I
think you can educate me and a lot of people
do a lot of good with this question because I
don't understand constitutional law, but if we want to try
to put it down where everybody can understand going forward
with the appeal process on this situation with Trump, how
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because we have checks and balances, we know it's skewed
with what happened, But going forward with the appeal process,
could you guys kind of break down how we can
make sure this doesn't happen again, or is it going
to have to be even if they rig it again
go to Supreme Court? That'd be if you could elaborate
on I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can I can I interject something? And thank you very
much Jan for calling in. And I am far more
learned about all things sec than I used to be
Crimson Tide. That's Alabama right, correct, Indeed, so I know
the things. The problem that we have in the judiciary
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now is actually worse than a problem of structure. It's
worse than well, how do we fix it? Because the
system that we have is premised upon people operating in
good faith with honestly a certain level of IQ who
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respect the system that they are in. When you have
the infiltration of very partisan, emotionally unstable judges, for example,
all across the judiciary. When you have sorospack prosecutors and
prosecutor's offices across the country. The issue is more now
in my mind, one of personnel than it is of
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the policies, if you will, or the structures the institutions
that we have. Right, you know, it's not that Harvard
is a bad place. It's that Harvard in recent decades
has been filled with anti American, anti Israel, anti Semitic lunatics,
whether it's faculty or students, et cetera. Right, So you know,
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to say, how do we fix these things? And you're
talking about the appeal process, and this is my perspective.
Claike will have his perspective obviously in a moment. The
problem with the appeals process is that it's the same
problem them you have in the lower courts, which is,
if you have bad judges who hate Trump, who don't care,
there's nothing you can do. There's no law you can pass,
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there's no change you can make. If people in power
are going to act in bad faith and do so
to tear down their political opponents. I mean, that's how
I see it, and I think that the problem is
you've got a judiciary that is full of activists who
don't care about the rule of law. That's what I see.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So the challenge in general on the Trump case is
who exactly is going to be making the decision in
the state universe under which this conviction occurred. There is
arguably a lynch pen here or a hook however you
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want to use it, that would allow you to move
into federal jurisdiction. Federal jurisdiction would get you to the
Supreme Court faster than state would. State courts are going
to take a long time. I still think it's going
to get tossed eventually. On the appeals process, federal you
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could theoretically accelerate because we are dealing with arguably an
election related case, and we have seen the Supreme Court
move quickly in some of these cases before. The easy
answer is nobody knows, because this is truly an unprecedented case.
So and the Democrats, to bucks point, are behaving in
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an unprecedented manner. And let me since you called in
and you're an Alabama fan, we're about to start the
College World series play. Imagine that you had a homeplate
umpire who said, hey, I'm going to call strikes on
one team all the way up to the chin and
all the way down to the ankles, and then on
the other team, I'm only going to call strikes for
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a tiny little narrow band between you know, your knees
and your way least. That's basically what we have with
Democrat judges. And then you've got Republican judges and John
Roberts has actually used this ball strikes analogy, who say, oh, no,
we need to maintain principle. I'm only going to call
the balls and strikes correctly. And then you've got another
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judge who's totally rigging the process and giving the other
team an advantage. And imagine what that would look like
in a game. It would be totally unfair. That's what
our judicial system has become. And that's the way when
you're talking about skills. I'm going to intentionally be labor
Clay's analogy here a little bit. It's as though we're saying,
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we got totally screwed over by that umpire, so rigged,
let's go to the head umpire and see if he'll
overrule the lower umpire. Okay, I mean maybe, but if
you're in the wrong town and that umpire also hates
the visiting team, guess what not going to get a
different result. And the only way that changes is that
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eventually you can get up to this, you know, if
you can and you get it up to the Supreme Court.
But that may take time, and the Supreme Court may
not take all aspects of this. And it's not as you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Know, if your only, if your only hope of justice
is the Supreme Court will save me, you've already lost
at some level. That's really what Webron has to understand.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's like the process is the punishment. Remember that guy
who's been sued so many times by the activists for
the cakes out in Colorado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Masterpiece cake Shop.
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
People say, careful, what was it? I said, I got
to be careful with the master baker phrase there that
that sounds like you're doing another job.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Well anyway, you know, people say, oh, well, look the
system works, because you know, at the end of the day,
he didn't end up getting his business everything destroyed by
the state. It's like, well, he spent years in court,
had to spend all of his money and has been
dragged through this process. The process is the punishment. And
with Trump and all this legal stuff, understand, if they
end up winning this election, even if Trump gets this
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turned on, overturned on appeal at some point or whatever,
it's not really justice.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's what I think we all need to be prepared for.
There is no committee he goes to that restores his
reputation and restore not that his reputation is really damaged heremedially,
but you know what I mean, that restores the frustration,
the pain, the lost time, the lost money, all of it.
So don't count on justice here in any respect. I mean,
you may just be able to avoid calamity for Trump,
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but I don't think there's anyone who's gonna make this
all right. This is why I keep saying the only
way to come close to making it right is Trump
wins and then does a real retribution tour, and it
has absolutely deserved. I would normally be more on the
side play of we can't fight as dirty as they fight,
YadA YadA. Mm No, I'm thinking their needs. I'm thinking
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the brass knuckles do need to come out here a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, and remember also on the Supreme Court decision. They've
got this monstrously huge presidential immunity case that is coming
out some point in June, maybe July fourth week at
the latest, sometime in that universe. Supreme Court is still
very political with John Roberts as their head, and I
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give credit to John Roberts. We didn't mention this, but
he also released a letter saying he wasn't going to
weigh in on the demand that Alito recused himself because
they tried to put him in political pressure with that
New York Times bogus story about flags outside of Alito's place.
But whatever they do in the presidential immunity case is
going to be a significant issue. But remember they predated
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Trump's charges to before he took office. So there's no
real way that I can think of where you could
immediately kind of find a hook to connect this case
to whatever happens in the presidential immunity case. So, and
to your point, Buck, you're appealing to somebody who's decided
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that they don't want to call balls and strikes in
a fair way in many parts of this appellate process,
particularly in New York.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You know, we'll take some of your calls to finish
us up here. And also we just had that call
before we said, you know, Buck, you're learning a lot
about the SEC. Well, yeah, I have to, because if
I'm going to make some money on Prize Picks, I
gotta know what's up, Clay. Who's gonna win this series
between the Mavericks and the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Do you do you have one in mind already? I
believe it will be the Celtics in six. The NBA
Finals start on Thursday. I'll give you some picks next
week for this, but I would pick right now Celtics
in six.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
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gonna fight through it. You think Davy Crockett would give up,
but he'd be like, oh, there's a Trump trial that
didn't go our way. Heck no, Dave. You would be like,
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What's up Katie?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Hey, guys, thanks so much for taking my call. And
I just want to parallel a lot of you said
earlier because I have been there for years. I am
ready for the Republicans to get off the sideline. The
bully is in the bathroom pummeling us, and we have
got to punch back. And here's what I think should happen.
Number One, every American listening to me right now, every
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patriotic Americans is sick of seeing this and is just
despondent about and just wants to do something. You need
to call people like Jim Jordan and Speaker Mike Johnson.
This does not need to go to the Supreme Court.
We need to start fighting back with subpoenas. We need
to subpoena people today. They don't need to get on
a plane. They may need to come home and say, oh,
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we're doing it all. We'll vote in November. No, this
happens now, and we need to take this country back
because what is on the other side is inconceivable for
me and my children. I will not stand back. I
will hold the line I have been fighting in California
by way of growing up in Nebraska. I will not
leave here because you cannot let any part of this
country go to these This is communism and it is
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at our doorsteps, and the American people need to know that.
You need to listen to people like Cash Ptel, who
is saying specifically, we need to subpoena these people. And
I am on your guys's side right now. I'm born
and raised listening to Rush Limbaugh, and I love it
you're saying it because I really truly feel when I
tuned in this morning that I was hearing from him again.
So I thank you for that. But I think the
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subpoenas need to happen, and I think the American people
need to realize this isn't just about Donald Trump. This
is about all of us. This is about my kids,
this is about your kids, This is about your neighborhoods.
And I will go one step further than the das.
In each of our communities which I've been involved, I
volunteer in elections, and I volunteer as a woman in
my neighborhood, in my community and my school and my
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school boards and everything that I can conceivably possibly do.
The system is broken. But I will tell you this,
if another of us rise up and push back and
say things like, hey, why don't you get involved locally,
we can go past our das, can talk to our
constitutionally elected sheriff and start holding these people accountable. People
like Merrit Garland put them in jail. If the dog's
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not going to do it, get a marshall to do it.
They're jail cells under the house. They can put these
people away, start fighting just like they do and I'll
tell you what. You will see them squirm and finally
get the retribution that they deserve, because nobody should be
off the list right now.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I love you, Katie. How many kids? Sorry to cut
you off, Katie. How many kids do you have?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I have two.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They are lucky kids, the boy and the girl that
you have. Thank you have a fabulous weekend. I loved
everything that you said. They're lucky to have you as
a mom. I love it. Mode fired off, no doubt.
We got a couple more calls. Uh, Pat in Springdale, Wisconsin.
Fire away, Springdale, Wisconsin. Pat, you're letting down the Badgers?
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Where are you? I gave him a chance? Jay and
Satellite Beach, Florida. What you got for us? Jay?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. After that last caller, I was
worried about what I was gonna say was going to
be seen a little over the top and amplify. But
she's way more jacked up than I am.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It was a.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Horrible thing that happened yesterday. I just want to say
both of your analysis on everything is spot on. How
I looked at it, especially yours, Clay. I kind of
looked to you for a little of the legal side
of it. Even though I think I'm an armchair attorney.
I'm just gonna say this. For the last decade or more,
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the Democrat Party, I don't know why you guys call
them Democrats, because your predecessor would refer to them as Nazis.
All the fascism is on the left. Look at the
recent history. Okay, that party, they are Nazis. They are
new age Nazis. It's what they do. They have a
whole section of the party that supports hamas terrorism, okay,
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a whole section, and the other part of the party
condones it and doesn't publicly.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Speak out about it.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No reps, no DEM reps, no DEM senators, nobody, federal level,
state level, okay. They support unscientific, unproved COVID data policies
and mandates. They support government censorship by social media platforms.
All of those are fascist style systems that the Nazis
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employed in the thirties, and they've got into the course.
If you know anything about your history in Europe and
how the Nazis came the power.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
This is a fantastic call. We've got ten seconds left,
so I just want to say to all of you,
be ready to fight. The next five months are going
to be some of the most important in our history,
and Trump is going to win, by the way
Welcome back. In Final Hour of the Week, Clay Travis
bock Sexton show many of you furious, anger, beyond belief
over the thirty four felony convictions against Donald Trump yesterday
in a New York City courtroom. Caroline Levitt is with
the Trump campaign. She is their spokesperson. She would have
a substantial role in any Trump twenty twenty four victory,
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which we are all rooting for. Caroline, A lot of
anger out there, but I actually want to start with
something that was super positive to come out of this. Already,
the Trump campaign says they raised thirty four point eight
million dollars in the immediate aftermath of this trial verdict,
and twenty nine point seven percent of those dollars were
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from entirely new donors. What can you tell us about
the unprecedented financial response in favor of Trump and how
have things gone since you guys put out that press release.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yes, that is one hundred percent right. We are already
seeing this trial, this conviction, this unprecedented witch hunt backfire
on Joe Biden in the corrupt Democrat party that brought
this case against President Trump. We raised, as you just said,
thirty four point eight million dollars in six hours from
the time the verdicts came down to midnight last night.
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That is how much money we raise from grassroots patriots
across this country who have watched this case for six
weeks and are in shock about what has become of
our justice system in this corrupt regime that we are
living in right now. This is not a constitutional republic,
I hate to break it to your audience. We are
living in a regime that is led by people who
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do not care about our country, do not care about us.
All they care about is power and control, and that's
what we've seen over the last six weeks take place.
And we already saw a poll out this morning as
well that shows President Trump leading Joe Biden by six
points already, So we know that this thing will continue
to backfire as it has over the last six weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Caroline, you have at least between now and July eleventh,
I would assume for President Trump to be pretty free
out on the campaign. Can you give us a sense
just a preview of now that he doesn't have to
show up in this courthouse every day. What are the
plans like and what's some of the strategy going forward?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, We're going to get back on the campaign. True,
we already are. We are going to continue to hold rallies,
We're going to continue to hold events, we are going
to continue to fundraise that you'll see President Trump out
there as he has been. And you know, this trial
at the beginning, everyone thought, oh, it's going to slow
him down, and sure, yeah. I mean we were confined
into a dirty, disgusting courtroom for more than eight hours
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a day, four days a week.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
It sucks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm not gonna lie, okay, but guess what. President Trump
made the most of it, and he continued to get
out there and fight, and we held rallies in the
Bronx with five thousand people, a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey,
record breaking one hundred thousand person crowd. President Trump, you know,
going to Bodegas and Harlem, visiting construction workers in Midtown,
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still doing rallies in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, making the most
of the cards he's been dealt. And he's going to
continue to do that, and we'll see him. You will
see him back on the campaign trail very very soon.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Caroline, what can you tell us? We've had Trump on
the program quite a lot over the years. But one
thing that continues to stagger both Buck and and me
is the amount of energy that he has. And really,
I mean, he's seventy seven, having people throw body blows
at him every single day, and he seems just to
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never tire. What is it like for you? I think
you're what twenty six years old? By the way, congrats,
I know you are pregnant, so I imagine that you've
got a little bit on your shoulders as well in
addition to being in the middle of the campaign. But
what can you tell us about the energy and the
will that you see from this guy to be taking
the punches that he does, and the severity of those
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punches and still go out and fight every day.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It is incredibly inspiring to witness President Trump's resolve and
his determination and his tenacity in the face of unprecedented attacks.
No person, arguably in American history, has been attacked and
smeared and lied about and investigated more than Donald Trump.
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Yet he continues to get up every single day and fight.
And you know, yesterday when the conviction came down, we
all had to sit there. He himself included here they
were guilty thirty four times in a row from a
jury who we knew was not going to be fair,
over with a judge sitting in that courtroom smirking, who
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we know is highly conflicted and crooked and partisan, with
a case that was brought by a Democrat prosecutor who
hates Donald Trump and has made that very clear. This
thing was rigged from the beginning. And he had to
sit there and hear guilty thirty four times in a row.
And we walked out of that courtroom in disgust. We
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were angry, we were somber, and we turned to him
and he looked at us and said, I'm going to
go to the cameras and we're going to continue to fight.
And he drove that message, and within minutes of hearing
that that's what he did, he addressed the American people
and said, I am doing this for our constitution in
our country. Anyone else facing what Donald Trump has would
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fold like a deck of cards. But he gets up
and he fights again, and it's because he knows he
has the truth on his side, and he knows that
he is the man for the job right now who
can fix this country and all of the crises that
Joe Biden has created. I mean, not only are we
witnessing the abuse of our legal system, we have a
wide open border allowing terrorists and criminals into our country.
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Our economy is in shambles, record high inflation, the worst
inflation crisis in a generation. Hard working Americans can hardly
afford to live. And this is what Crooked Joe and
the Democrats are focused on. It's disgusting, but it fires
President Trump up to fight, and I'm honored to work
for him and call him my boss. And in your audience,
every single person listening to this right now should be
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honored that they have someone in this country who loves
them enough and loves this country enough to go through this.
And we need everyone's support. This guy can't do it alone.
And we need people to continue to donate on our website,
we need people to sign up to volunteer. I mean,
he says it all the time, and it's true. November
the fifth is the most important election in our lifetimes.
And if we don't win, America as we know her
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and we love her will cease to exist. And that's
that is a sad thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Speaking to Caroline Levitt, National Press Secretary for the Trump
campaign a caroline to that end of what you just said.
You're twenty six years old, You're among the most visible
people in this Trump campaign. How do you approach now
the realization that you're not just trying to win a
presidential contest, which is quite an undertaking in and of itself,
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but you your team President Trump are really trying to
preserve the country that we live in.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's a challenge, but it's a challenge that we have
to win. And we have a fearless leader in President Trump, who,
like I said, calls the shots, and we are here
to execute his mission. And as his spokesperson, it's my
job to go out there and message effectively the message
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that he wants to say. And you know what, it's
easy to do when you have a boss and a
leader who is so fearless and again who has the
truth on his side and who has the best record
to stand on. I mean, look at what President Trump
accomplished in his first term in office. We had a
secure border, Our Connie was booming, The world feared us,
and he was the first president ever to not get
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us into any new wars. And you look at the
contrast in Joe Biden's America. Our border again is wide open,
economy and shambles. We're on the break of World War three.
I mean, even with all of this, I would rather
be President Trump's spokesperson than Joe Biden's any day of
the week, every day for the rest of my life.
Because President Trump has a record, and he has a
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vision for this country. He has integrity, he has conviction.
Joe Biden is crooked and corrupt, and he's a liar,
and he is the weakest and most incoonfident at president
this country has ever seen.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Caroline, what'd you think of roberts in hero?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well, that was something I'll tell you. We actually got
tipped off by a nice friendly source outside the courthouse
that the Biden campaign was going to be hosting that
press conference. So myself and my colleagues we headed outside
to punch back, of course, in true President Trump's fashion,
and they were teasing a special guest. We didn't know
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it was gonna be. All of a sudden, we see
a sloppy de Niro shuffling out of time.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I mean, sorry, just for you though, you're twenty six
when you see Robert Danier. Buck and I were talking
about this, like, if Leonardo DiCaprio rolled up bucket Eye
around the same age, would be like, Okay, that guy's
a badass, Like, at least he's the best actor right now.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Maybe I wouldn't call him a badass. I would just
say he's famous. But yeah, well I.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Think I think Leonardo Okay, I think Leonardo DiCaprio is
a badass, even though I think he's crazy on some
political issues in his profession, he's a badass. But Caroline,
you're twenty six. What Robert de Niro's eighty?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Did you think it was kind of like a they
hadn't done a press conference and then they finally decided
to do one. Did you feel like it was kind
of it felt fake to me that they would decide
that Robert de Niro was their leader.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
It was.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It was mind boggling to see him. He came out
of the car with a mascot. We're all like, is
that Robert de Niro? What the heck or these people doing?
And then he goes on an unhinged tirade about Donald Trump.
And you could see in the Biden staffer's faces by
the way that it immediately is as Denira started spiraling
out of control, they knew it was a bad idea.
I mean, the whole thing just looks jay z it
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was disastrous. He was like going after our supporters, pointing
his finger in their faces.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Is there any chance in your mind, Caroline that like,
could that have happened without Joe Biden knowing about it
at all? Meaning the approval of de Niro as their spokesman.
Would that just be somebody on the campaign or do
you think that Biden was like, yeah, that'll do, that'll
be the ticket.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, look who knows. I mean, was Biden awake early
enough to approve that? I'm not sure, but certainly it came.
You know, his campaign knows what they're doing, and they
had said this entire trial, it's not political, we have
nothing to do with it. Their press conference with Robert
De Niro was a concession that they have everything to
do with this trial, in this case that has been
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brought forward.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Caroline, fantastic stuff. As always, We will talk to you
again soon. Do you know boy or girl yet? By
the way, on the baby and what's the delivery date?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, i am I'm having a boy, firstborn son, very
excited about it, and we'll be having him in a
few weeks. I'm like six weeks thousand my due date,
and I, oh, wow, I'm doing this. Don't know how
I'm doing this all, but we were fighting through. Like
you said, we're fighting fighting for the country, and I'm
very excited to the boy. God knows we need more
strong men in this country and I look forward to
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raising one.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
That is awesome. Congratulations on the baby. I can't believe
that you are fighting this hard six weeks out from
the due date. That could be, by the way, right
around July fourth, Right, you could have a July fourth birthday.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I could, and it would be very brand, very unbrand
for me to have my baby on fourth of July.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Amen, good luck, Thank you, Caroline.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Thanks guys, We'll talk toune for sure.
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Speaker 3 (13:40):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We had mentioned this
earlier in the week and hadn't really spend too much
time on it yet. But one of the concerns that
the Democrats clearly have is that Joe Biden is losing
support among black voters, particularly among black young, black male voters,
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and that that is a demographic that if he underperforms
with he may lose the election. Really based on that,
and over at the view where they're not exactly crunching
the numbers and looking at all the data, but they
are giving you something of the Democrat the Democrat consensus
on some of these things. You have Sonny Houston who
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is just outright dismissing this very notion.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Clay.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He's probably upset with you about something too, because you're
just being Clay like these days. She's outright dismissing the
idea that has been raised about the possibility of black
men voting for Trump.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Play twenty five eighty three percent of black registered voters
identify as or lean Democratic eighty one percent of Black men,
eighty one percent are in the Democratic Party. So I
don't want to hear any more that black men are
voting for Trump. Black women resoundingly will show up for Biden,
and they're going to bring their sons, They're going to
bring their grandsons, They're going to bring their husbands, and
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the Black vote will turn out and Biden.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I think she may be right, Clay, But convince me
that she's wrong, meaning that I think that the Black
vote for Biden may still be as reliable as that
has been in previous elections. But tell me otherwise, because
some of the data is indicating that right now there
is weakness for Biden among blackmail voters.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I've been saying for some time that I believe twenty
five percent of black men will vote for Biden will
vote for Trump, which would be an earth shattering movement
in many ways. I think she's right about black women.
They're the most reliable voting group for Democrats in the
entire country. I think it's going to be hard to
get them to move. Biden put Katanji Brown Jackson on
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the Supreme Court. He made Kamala Harris his vice president.
I believe that he is going to do well with
black women. Not to say that some who are listening
to us right now are not going to be in
the Trump camp, but I think it's going to be
harder in general for Trump to have appeal for women.
I think men, though, are breaking overwhelmingly for Trump, and
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I think that's because there is a feminine quality to
the Democrat Party right now that men reject. And I
talked about this at a Marsha Blackburn event recently in Washington,
d C. Her reelection event that that I spoke at
Black men, Asian men, Hispanic men, and white men overwhelmingly
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reject this idea that men should be able to identify
as women and win women's championships. For men, this is
like a ninety five to five to ninety ten issue,
and I think it's a direct attack on masculinity that
has been aided and embedded in many ways by the
Democrat Party. And I think there's a cultural disassociation happening
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across the gender line that overwhelmingly men are rejecting the
Democrat Party and the Dylan Mulvaney's of the world and
the hey, I have a period and I'm a woman
and guys are like, what this is crazy talk, And
so I think black guys are responsive to it. I
think Hispanic guys, Asian guys, women aren't too. But I
think in particular, the Republican Party has become the party
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of men and the Democrat Party has become the party
of women. And I think black men are going to
break in a big way for Republicans. And I hope
Sonny Hostin is wrong. We have a clip that I'm
going to play for you when we come back. Buck,
I don't know if you've even seen this yet, of
Joy Behar reacting to the news that Donald Trump had
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Clayan Buck, Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. You're gonna
take a couple of your calls here in a moment,
and I want to hit you with one little detail
here that I was just checking out, and it has
to do with current popularity at this time in the
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office holding that is three years and a half into
your presidency for the presidents that ended up losing. This
is where they were. The elected presidents who lost. Jimmy
Carter's net approval rating minus eight point nine at this
point in time, Trump minus ten point three, George H. W.
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Bush minus eleven point nine, Joe Biden minus eighteen point five.
So the three losers in their reelection bids were all
three way more popular than Joe Biden is right now,
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still five months ish to go, but Biden the least
popular incumbent president by a large margin according to the
five thirty eight Gauge of approval ratings. We got a
bunch of people who want to weigh in that have
been waiting with us Dan in Birmingham, Alabama. What you
got for us?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey, guys, Buck, I know Clay side to educate you
in all things SEC and Clay seems to be a
reasonable Tennessee fan, But I want you to know that
it's a bit of an aberration. Usually reasonable Tennessee fan,
that's an oxymoron. So you have an exceptional situation with Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I appreciate, really, I appreciate all the time. I'm glad
to be on with you real simply put here, I
think you can educate me and a lot of people
do a lot of good with this question because I
don't understand constitutional law, but if we want to try
to put it down where everybody can understand going forward
with the appeal process on this situation with Trump, how
(21:07):
because we have checks and balances, we know it's skewed
with what happened, But going forward with the appeal process,
could you guys kind of break down how we can
make sure this doesn't happen again, or is it going
to have to be even if they rig it again
go to Supreme Court? That'd be if you could elaborate
on I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can I can I interject something? And thank you very
much Jan for calling in. And I am far more
learned about all things sec than I used to be
Crimson Tide. That's Alabama right, correct, Indeed, so I know
the things. The problem that we have in the judiciary
(21:43):
now is actually worse than a problem of structure. It's
worse than well, how do we fix it? Because the
system that we have is premised upon people operating in
good faith with honestly a certain level of IQ who
(22:04):
respect the system that they are in. When you have
the infiltration of very partisan, emotionally unstable judges, for example,
all across the judiciary. When you have sorospack prosecutors and
prosecutor's offices across the country. The issue is more now
in my mind, one of personnel than it is of
(22:27):
the policies, if you will, or the structures the institutions
that we have. Right, you know, it's not that Harvard
is a bad place. It's that Harvard in recent decades
has been filled with anti American, anti Israel, anti Semitic lunatics,
whether it's faculty or students, et cetera. Right, So you know,
(22:48):
to say, how do we fix these things? And you're
talking about the appeal process, and this is my perspective.
Claike will have his perspective obviously in a moment. The
problem with the appeals process is that it's the same
problem them you have in the lower courts, which is,
if you have bad judges who hate Trump, who don't care,
there's nothing you can do. There's no law you can pass,
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there's no change you can make. If people in power
are going to act in bad faith and do so
to tear down their political opponents. I mean, that's how
I see it, and I think that the problem is
you've got a judiciary that is full of activists who
don't care about the rule of law. That's what I see.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So the challenge in general on the Trump case is
who exactly is going to be making the decision in
the state universe under which this conviction occurred. There is
arguably a lynch pen here or a hook however you
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want to use it, that would allow you to move
into federal jurisdiction. Federal jurisdiction would get you to the
Supreme Court faster than state would. State courts are going
to take a long time. I still think it's going
to get tossed eventually. On the appeals process, federal you
(24:10):
could theoretically accelerate because we are dealing with arguably an
election related case, and we have seen the Supreme Court
move quickly in some of these cases before. The easy
answer is nobody knows, because this is truly an unprecedented case.
So and the Democrats, to bucks point, are behaving in
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an unprecedented manner. And let me since you called in
and you're an Alabama fan, we're about to start the
College World series play. Imagine that you had a homeplate
umpire who said, hey, I'm going to call strikes on
one team all the way up to the chin and
all the way down to the ankles, and then on
the other team, I'm only going to call strikes for
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a tiny little narrow band between you know, your knees
and your way least. That's basically what we have with
Democrat judges. And then you've got Republican judges and John
Roberts has actually used this ball strikes analogy, who say, oh, no,
we need to maintain principle. I'm only going to call
the balls and strikes correctly. And then you've got another
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judge who's totally rigging the process and giving the other
team an advantage. And imagine what that would look like
in a game. It would be totally unfair. That's what
our judicial system has become. And that's the way when
you're talking about skills. I'm going to intentionally be labor
Clay's analogy here a little bit. It's as though we're saying,
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we got totally screwed over by that umpire, so rigged,
let's go to the head umpire and see if he'll
overrule the lower umpire. Okay, I mean maybe, but if
you're in the wrong town and that umpire also hates
the visiting team, guess what not going to get a
different result. And the only way that changes is that
(26:00):
eventually you can get up to this, you know, if
you can and you get it up to the Supreme Court.
But that may take time, and the Supreme Court may
not take all aspects of this. And it's not as you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Know, if your only, if your only hope of justice
is the Supreme Court will save me, you've already lost
at some level. That's really what Webron has to understand.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
You know.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's like the process is the punishment. Remember that guy
who's been sued so many times by the activists for
the cakes out in Colorado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Masterpiece cake Shop.
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
People say, careful, what was it? I said, I got
to be careful with the master baker phrase there that
that sounds like you're doing another job.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Well anyway, you know, people say, oh, well, look the
system works, because you know, at the end of the day,
he didn't end up getting his business everything destroyed by
the state. It's like, well, he spent years in court,
had to spend all of his money and has been
dragged through this process. The process is the punishment. And
with Trump and all this legal stuff, understand, if they
end up winning this election, even if Trump gets this
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turned on, overturned on appeal at some point or whatever,
it's not really justice.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's what I think we all need to be prepared for.
There is no committee he goes to that restores his
reputation and restore not that his reputation is really damaged heremedially,
but you know what I mean, that restores the frustration,
the pain, the lost time, the lost money, all of it.
So don't count on justice here in any respect. I mean,
you may just be able to avoid calamity for Trump,
(27:39):
but I don't think there's anyone who's gonna make this
all right. This is why I keep saying the only
way to come close to making it right is Trump
wins and then does a real retribution tour, and it
has absolutely deserved. I would normally be more on the
side play of we can't fight as dirty as they fight,
YadA YadA. Mm No, I'm thinking their needs. I'm thinking
(28:02):
the brass knuckles do need to come out here a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, and remember also on the Supreme Court decision. They've
got this monstrously huge presidential immunity case that is coming
out some point in June, maybe July fourth week at
the latest, sometime in that universe. Supreme Court is still
very political with John Roberts as their head, and I
(28:25):
give credit to John Roberts. We didn't mention this, but
he also released a letter saying he wasn't going to
weigh in on the demand that Alito recused himself because
they tried to put him in political pressure with that
New York Times bogus story about flags outside of Alito's place.
But whatever they do in the presidential immunity case is
going to be a significant issue. But remember they predated
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Trump's charges to before he took office. So there's no
real way that I can think of where you could
immediately kind of find a hook to connect this case
to whatever happens in the presidential immunity case. So, and
to your point, Buck, you're appealing to somebody who's decided
(29:09):
that they don't want to call balls and strikes in
a fair way in many parts of this appellate process,
particularly in New York.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You know, we'll take some of your calls to finish
us up here. And also we just had that call
before we said, you know, Buck, you're learning a lot
about the SEC. Well, yeah, I have to, because if
I'm going to make some money on Prize Picks, I
gotta know what's up, Clay. Who's gonna win this series
between the Mavericks and the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Do you do you have one in mind already? I
believe it will be the Celtics in six. The NBA
Finals start on Thursday. I'll give you some picks next
week for this, but I would pick right now Celtics
in six.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
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for all things sports betting and say I think the
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I know it's a tough week for America, but we're
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gonna fight through it. You think Davy Crockett would give up,
but he'd be like, oh, there's a Trump trial that
didn't go our way. Heck no, Dave. You would be like,
let's mount up, let's get to it. And that's what
we're gonna do.
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and don't let the communists win. Don't let the communists
feed you your coffee either. Let's take Katie and Coast Mesa, California.
What's up Katie?
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Hey, guys, thanks so much for taking my call. And
I just want to parallel a lot of you said
earlier because I have been there for years. I am
ready for the Republicans to get off the sideline. The
bully is in the bathroom pummeling us, and we have
got to punch back. And here's what I think should happen.
Number One, every American listening to me right now, every
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patriotic Americans is sick of seeing this and is just
despondent about and just wants to do something. You need
to call people like Jim Jordan and Speaker Mike Johnson.
This does not need to go to the Supreme Court.
We need to start fighting back with subpoenas. We need
to subpoena people today. They don't need to get on
a plane. They may need to come home and say, oh,
(32:39):
we're doing it all. We'll vote in November. No, this
happens now, and we need to take this country back
because what is on the other side is inconceivable for
me and my children. I will not stand back. I
will hold the line I have been fighting in California
by way of growing up in Nebraska. I will not
leave here because you cannot let any part of this
country go to these This is communism and it is
(33:02):
at our doorsteps, and the American people need to know that.
You need to listen to people like Cash Ptel, who
is saying specifically, we need to subpoena these people. And
I am on your guys's side right now. I'm born
and raised listening to Rush Limbaugh, and I love it
you're saying it because I really truly feel when I
tuned in this morning that I was hearing from him again.
So I thank you for that. But I think the
(33:23):
subpoenas need to happen, and I think the American people
need to realize this isn't just about Donald Trump. This
is about all of us. This is about my kids,
this is about your kids, This is about your neighborhoods.
And I will go one step further than the das.
In each of our communities which I've been involved, I
volunteer in elections, and I volunteer as a woman in
my neighborhood, in my community and my school and my
(33:45):
school boards and everything that I can conceivably possibly do.
The system is broken. But I will tell you this,
if another of us rise up and push back and
say things like, hey, why don't you get involved locally,
we can go past our das, can talk to our
constitutionally elected sheriff and start holding these people accountable. People
like Merrit Garland put them in jail. If the dog's
(34:08):
not going to do it, get a marshall to do it.
They're jail cells under the house. They can put these
people away, start fighting just like they do and I'll
tell you what. You will see them squirm and finally
get the retribution that they deserve, because nobody should be
off the list right now.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I love you, Katie. How many kids? Sorry to cut
you off, Katie. How many kids do you have?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I have two.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
They are lucky kids, the boy and the girl that
you have. Thank you have a fabulous weekend. I loved
everything that you said. They're lucky to have you as
a mom. I love it. Mode fired off, no doubt.
We got a couple more calls. Uh, Pat in Springdale, Wisconsin.
Fire away, Springdale, Wisconsin. Pat, you're letting down the Badgers?
(34:58):
Where are you? I gave him a chance? Jay and
Satellite Beach, Florida. What you got for us? Jay?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. After that last caller, I was
worried about what I was gonna say was going to
be seen a little over the top and amplify. But
she's way more jacked up than I am.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It was a.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Horrible thing that happened yesterday. I just want to say
both of your analysis on everything is spot on. How
I looked at it, especially yours, Clay. I kind of
looked to you for a little of the legal side
of it. Even though I think I'm an armchair attorney.
I'm just gonna say this. For the last decade or more,
(35:43):
the Democrat Party, I don't know why you guys call
them Democrats, because your predecessor would refer to them as Nazis.
All the fascism is on the left. Look at the
recent history. Okay, that party, they are Nazis. They are
new age Nazis. It's what they do. They have a
whole section of the party that supports hamas terrorism, okay,
(36:06):
a whole section, and the other part of the party
condones it and doesn't publicly.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Speak out about it.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
No reps, no DEM reps, no DEM senators, nobody, federal level,
state level, okay. They support unscientific, unproved COVID data policies
and mandates. They support government censorship by social media platforms.
All of those are fascist style systems that the Nazis
(36:33):
employed in the thirties, and they've got into the course.
If you know anything about your history in Europe and
how the Nazis came the power.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
This is a fantastic call. We've got ten seconds left,
so I just want to say to all of you,
be ready to fight. The next five months are going
to be some of the most important in our history,
and Trump is going to win, by the way
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