July 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a politically explosive and news-packed segment that centers on the release of Russia-gate documents, a high-profile interview with Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, and breaking developments from Tulsi Gabbard’s press conference at the White House. The hour opens with Clay and Buck discussing Gabbard’s bombshell claims that former President Barack Obama and his national security team orchestrated a false intelligence narrative to delegitimize Donald Trump’s 2016 election victory. Gabbard, now serving as Director of National Intelligence under President Trump, alleges that Obama knowingly directed the creation of a fabricated intelligence community assessment and has referred him to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution.
Senator Rand Paul joins the program to weigh in on the Russiagate revelations and to reiterate his long-standing calls for accountability, particularly regarding Dr. Anthony Fauci. Paul accuses Fauci of lying under oath about gain-of-function research and COVID-19 origins and confirms he has submitted multiple criminal referrals to the DOJ. He also criticizes the Federal Reserve’s $2 billion headquarters renovation, highlighting the lack of congressional oversight and the Fed’s controversial practice of paying banks not to lend money—an arrangement he says costs taxpayers $188 billion annually, with a significant portion going to foreign banks.
The conversation shifts to judicial appointments, where Paul notes that the Senate has confirmed twice as many Trump appointees as it had by the same point in 2017, despite Democrat obstruction and outdated procedural hurdles. He expresses deep concern over the unchecked power of U.S. intelligence agencies, calling for sweeping reforms to prevent future abuses. Paul argues that the intelligence community has become too powerful and opaque, citing the misuse of FISA databases and surveillance programs like Quiet Skies, which allegedly targeted political figures such as Tulsi Gabbard.
In a lighter but pointed moment, Paul criticizes Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear for participating in a Vogue photo shoot and vetoing a bill that would have banned sex change surgeries for minors. He labels Beshear as part of the extreme left and praises the Kentucky legislature for overriding the veto. The segment also includes a humorous exchange about the bureaucratic nightmare of obtaining a Real ID, with Paul sharing his own frustrations and joking about government overreach.
The hour crescendos with a detailed breakdown of Tulsi Gabbard’s press conference, where she outlines what she describes as irrefutable evidence of a coordinated effort by Obama-era officials to fabricate intelligence and launch a coup against the incoming Trump administration. Gabbard claims the Steele dossier was knowingly discredited yet used to justify surveillance and media narratives. She accuses the intelligence community, including former CIA Director John Brennan, of manipulating assessments and misleading lawmakers. The hosts emphasize the media’s complicity, calling out CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post for spreading disinformation and receiving Pulitzers for what they describe as “fake news.”
As the hour closes, Clay and Buck reflect on the broader implications of these revelations, suggesting they could reshape public understanding of both the 2016 and 2020 elections. They highlight the significance of a former Democrat like Gabbard leading the charge for transparency and accountability and speculate on the legal and political fallout that could follow. The segment ends with breaking news updates, including a judge’s refusal to release Epstein-related grand jury transcripts and a push to fire 25,000 IRS agents, underscoring the show’s commitment to covering stories the mainstream media allegedly ignores.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are waiting on Senator rand Tall.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Of Kentucky to join us a lot of different stories.
We have been discussing Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference
right now to discuss the Russia Gate documents that have
been released. We need to get Tulsi on the program.
Producer Ali Buck met with her recently. I would have
(00:25):
except I didn't have the real ID, so I couldn't
get into the meeting, which is very part for the course.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Clay showed up at the velvet rope. He's like, come on, man,
I know Trump, and they were like, you're not on
the list. Look at those flip flops.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I this is the only thing I've been turned away
from for not having a real ID. Now I travel
with my passport. I do have a passport, but for
some reason, the State of Tennessee licenses. I would have
to make an appointment and spend a whole day to
get a star on my ID, so I haven't been
willing to do it. But Buck met with Tulci. We
met with a bunch of people in the intelligence agencies
(01:00):
under Trump. We will get Tulsi on the program. Again
sometime in the future, and we are monitoring this press
conference and we will glab grab a lot of the
audio that she is sharing right now. Other news as
we have talked about major trader deals being announced, and
we now have been joined by Senator Ran Paul who
(01:21):
is with us, and Senator appreciate you joining us. I'll
just ask the big question right off the top. You
got Tulci Gabbard coming out with Russia Gate. You have
been documents that seem to show that the truth was
known and not shared with the American public as it
pertains to Russia's involvement in the twenty sixteen election. You
(01:43):
have been trying to hold doctor Anthony Fauci accountable for
a very long time over the lies that I think
we believe he told under oath relating to COVID and
American gain a function research and all these things. I
would say the number one question that Buck and I
get on a regular basis is we see all the evidence.
We believe that there is ample evidence there for charges
(02:05):
to be brought. Yet all of these people in positions
of power never have charges brought against him. They can
find anybody who walked into the Capitol on January sixth
and arrest them and throw the book at them. But
if you're super powerful and you're on the left side
of the political equation, nothing ever happens to you, will anything.
Are you as frustrated as our average listener would be
(02:27):
over this?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes? And you know I sense the frustration, and I
see some of the responses on our social media. What
are you gonna do? When are you gonna arrest Bauci?
People do have to realize I have no ability to
arrest anyone, but the Department of Justice does, and I've
done everything I can. I referred Fauci twice under Biden.
I presumed they would ignore it, but now I have
(02:49):
referred him, most recently just in the last week, to
the Trump Department of Justice. And there needs to be
a hue and cry that he needs to be prosecuted.
I think he clearly lied Congress. The other thing is
is it would bring up his pardon, and then I
think in court we need to have a test case
to see if a auto pen signature is a valid pardon.
(03:12):
I think there would be then in court the discussion
of who ran the auto pen, who gave them the orders?
You know, I think so far we know the person
running the autopen says some guy that worked for Joe
Biden told him to do it, and so ultimately you'd
have to have the test You could, essentially, I think,
bring in the testimony of ultimately either the the you know,
(03:35):
the President's wife or the president. It'd be hard to
get them into court, but this would be a test
case of whether that parton holds.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Senator Paul always appreciate you being with us. I want
to ask you about the FED one. I know, I
think you want to get more of a look into
the books at the FED, but can you also speak
to the what is it a two billion dollar renovation
that the Federal Reserves Washington, DC headquarters has gotten. You know,
(04:02):
I know in DC money has a whole different meaning
or lack of meaning depending but two billion dollars for rental,
that's pretty pricey stuff. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, you know, the Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional
oversight as far as the power of the purse. They
just printed up. They've got their own printing press, and
they spend whatever they feel like spending. And so they
started out at one point nine billion and they're six
hundred billion over they're show up to two point five billion.
They're six hundred thousand dollars worth, a thirty three percent
increase in over over the original estimate. But you know,
(04:37):
you want to talk about real money. The thing the
Federal Reserve is doing right now that offends me more
than anything else is they're paying big banks in New
York and around the world not to loan money. It's
a program that started in two thousand and nine. They
were paying banks I got a quarter of a point
or half a point not to loan money, and it
was it was money, but it wasn't huge amounts. Now
(04:59):
they're fantom four point four percent of about a week
or two ago, and that four point four percent equals
one hundred and eighty eight billion dollars, and forty percent
of that money is going to foreign banks. So it's
not only the Federal Reserve, you know, holds the American debt,
so we have to raise taxes to pay the Federal
Reserve interest. They get our interest, then they're paying our
(05:19):
interest back to big banks to tell them not to
loan money. It's the craziest scam you've ever heard of,
but it's real money now. And you know, there's nothing
that unites the right and the left. It's when taxpayer
money or government controlled money like this is going from
the regular middle class to the very wealthy elite, not
only of our country but of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're talking to Center Ram Paul of Kentucky. What did
you think of Andy Basheer's Vogue photoshoot?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I think he's running for Secretary of Transportation.
I think he really wants to be the next beat
Boodhaje Edge, so I think he's got a great shot
at it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I was looking at these photos and I just thought
to myself, who in Kentucky is thinking, Hey, you know,
I really want to see a Vogue photoshoot of the
governor and I when I saw this, I was like, oh,
I bet because I remember you came on with this
last time, said he's going to try to run for president.
But I just look at this guy. He's one of
the worst governors out there. To do that, to sign
off on the Vogue photoshoot, I couldn't believe it was real.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, here's the real question. Did Vogue actually ask him
about vetoing a bill that would have stopped sextaine surgeries
for miners, so our Republican legislature put for him a
bill to no longer have miners not allow miners to
make a decision to have this permanent surgery, and he
vetoed it, so our Republican legislature and President of him
(06:43):
promptly overrode him. But this guy is not part of
the mainstream. He's part of the extreme left, and he
got lucky somehow to win in our state. But there's
nothing about him that is moderate. He is as progressive
as the day is long.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Senator Paul something that's gotten bit of attention today. It
has to do with the president's ability to get his
appointees in place, particularly on the judiciary side, and when
it comes to US attorneys, as the Trump administration appointed
Alena Habba, one of Trump's lawyers, to be the US
(07:18):
attorney in New Jersey. A US attorney in New Jersey,
judges there decided Democrat appointed judges, no shock to anyone
that she was unacceptable and they just picked someone else.
Now that I understand is getting a bit specific into
what's going on in New Jersey. But how is it
going with Senate confirmation of various appointees, and specifically for
(07:41):
judicial nominees, because that's such a critical thing to be
functioning efficiently. And I am hearing some complaints from people
who well work right near you on Capitol Hill about
Senate Leader Thun and not getting this thing done with
the efficiency and and you know, absolute sense of urgency
(08:03):
that it needs to be done.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know. The good news is is that we've actually
approved twice as many as we had in twenty seventeen
when Trump won in twenty seventeen. By this time in
the summer of that first year, we had approved about
fifty five. I think we're up over one hundred and ten.
So it's a slow, laborious process, and the Democrats are
worse than they've ever been in the sense that it
typically and historically, the leadership would sit down from each
(08:29):
party at the end of the week that'd agree to
a list of ten or fifteen that pass them all
together in one group by voice vote. None of that
happens anymore. So we have like fifteen hundred Trump appointees
and we got to vote on them one at a time.
Most of them we have to wait two hours we
vote to get onto the bill to vote for them
and then two hours later to confirm them. So it's laborious,
(08:50):
but the good news is we've done twice as many
as we did in twenty seventeen. So I think given
the Democrats opposition and obstruction, I think we're doing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
What should happen with the Russia Gate. We've got Tulca
Gabbert having a press conference right now. You went through
all of this in the attempt to delegitimize Trump's election
in twenty sixteen, I said on the air, I actually
think the twenty twenty actions that were done to try
to argue from the fifty one intelligence agents, the hunter
(09:21):
Biden laptop, not releasing the fact that maybe we thought
back then, hey, we've got a successful vaccine. There were
a lot of things that could have been out publicly
that could have swung this election a big way. I
think twenty twenty was rigged substantially. But what should happen
associated with twenty sixteen in your mind, both practically and
if you had an ideal world, right, because there's the
(09:44):
reality of what can happen and what should happen, how
would you distinguish between those two?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, I always look at things. In general terms,
I'm horrified by what they did to Donald Trump, and
it should make everyone mad. But I'm also concerned about
average ordinary Americans and what they can do, and what
do power means could be done to average ordinary Americans.
So I'm for taking that power away. You know, some
people want Brennan in jail, they want Obama in jail,
and those things are unlikely to happen. But the one
(10:11):
thing we could do is the Congresses take power away
from the intelligence agencies. They should not have this much power.
I have always thought from the beginning. I've said it publicly.
I believe that Brennan called foreign governments and used their
intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. Remember these
random meetings in the bar with different Trump campaign officials.
(10:34):
I don't believe they were random. I think they were planned.
And I think because it's illegal for our CIA to
investigate americans, much less americans involved in politics, I think
they got our allies in on it. And I think
there is a been a massive cover up from the
very beginning on this. I do think what she's pointing out,
what Tolsey Glbert has said, is incredibly important. The assessment
(10:58):
by all of the Intelligence Agency after twenty sixteen is
that the Russians, like they always do, tried to mess
with our elections. That it was ineffectual, it was tiny,
it was minute, It was some Facebook ads and did
not affect the outcome. That was the conclusion. But then
that conclusion was vetoed by Brennan and high ranking people
(11:18):
because they chose to create a narrative that the election
was stolen, that the election was illegitimate. Hillary Clinton said it,
Jimmy Carter said it, all the leading Democrats said that
Trump was an illegitimate president. And what they did is
they then ceded information throughout all of the government to
try to start this narrative that there was a Russian collusion.
(11:39):
One of the most bizarre parts of this is the
Hillary Clinton campaign pays for the Steele dossier that has
this so called incriminating information and if they give it
to our government, but then they also send Steel to Halifax,
Nova Scotia to meet John McCain and secretly give him
the file as well. He comes back to Washington, takes
(12:01):
the bait, is all hysterical, and then gives it back
to government. But that's where it started. So the government
commissioned Steel to go back. It starts with the Clinton campaign.
This Christopher Steele, a former spy, collects all this nonsense,
puts it in the folder, gives it to John McCain,
who breathlessly races back to Washington to help get the
thing started. But this was a big sy ops. This
(12:23):
was a big operation by intelligence community, and of course
it was illegal. And I'm proud of Telsey Gabbards for
getting to the bottom and I hope she continues to
overturn and expose this corruption.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Transparency is incredibly important on this, So Senator Paul, we
agree with you wholeheartedly on that. Do you think it
is feasible, not even likely, but feasible that anybody could
be put in handcuffs based on what they did with
Russia collusion.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, they'll all tell a different tale, and you know,
changing an intelligence they'll say they got other information. It's
going to be hard to put anybody in jail on that.
But the main thing I always looked for in this
is trying to fix the system so it doesn't happen again.
So what we should conclude from this is intelligency agencies
(13:15):
have the power to destroy individuals and so there needs
to be more checks and balances and less ability of
an intelligence agency to investigate Americans. This goes along with
the FISA database that they have, which a lot of
Americans are sucked up into the system. It goes along
with that Quiet Sky's program where they were spying on
Tulsa Gabbard when she was on planes. There's so much
(13:37):
abuse and nobody in Congress knows anything about what the
intelligence agencies do other than to the Intelligence Committee in
the Senate and the House, and they silo off the
information and they try to prevent any other members from
knowing exactly what they're doing. Their budgets are secret. It's
very like pulling teeth to get any kind of look
at any of their budgets. So, yeah, there's too much power.
(13:59):
And we went through this after JEdgar Hoover, and he
was using the power of the office to blackmail people.
He was using the power of the office to illegally
expiring people. And there were big reforms in the seventies,
but since the nineteen seventies, the reforms that weren't off
and the intelligence agencies have grown too strong again. What
they did to Donald Trump should be a call a
(14:20):
clarion call for us to reform them and strip back
their power.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Senator Ram Paul, appreciate you making time for us, sir.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
On the real ID, Clay, I got to tell you,
if you stand in the line to get the chip
put in, they can insert that chip in no time
at all. And there's no line.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't even know what that means. I feel like
this is a joke.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You're so dead painting it there that I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
It is exactly you get an either line. But now
it took me three months to get the damn real ID,
and they kept refusing to give it to me because
some of my documents said Randall and not rand and
they weren't sure I was who I was presenting myself
to be.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
This drives me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You go in and out of Nashville like I do,
because you live in Kentucky, but this drives me absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it, and
we fought it for years and years of Kentucky, and
finally they take away your right to travel. Apparently the
right to travel is a privilege and you can only
travel under the government auspices. It's a step in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Amen, all right, Senator Paul, thank you so much. Clay.
Also that dead pen when I had no idea that
was a job, Well, he got me. He's such a
serious guy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Usually he really got me because I was getting ready
for you to read, and I was like an implant.
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All right, so we've got some breaking news here from
Tulsi Gabber, the d NI Director of National Intelligence. People
forget too very much part of MAGA, part of Trump's
senior most his most senior intelligence official, a Democrat formerly
and has come over into the light and into the
into the warm embrace of Magah. But she has referred
(17:26):
Barack Obama to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution. She
announced this. We will play some sound bites for you again, guys.
I could be wrong, Clay could be wrong on this one.
Maybe this. Maybe this does go more of a distance
that we had anticipated. It's possible I completely and and
any criminal wrongdoing should be punished. Anything they can prove
in a court of law that violates statue, absolutely, go
(17:47):
for it. We'll see, we'll play some of this. We
have some updates for you. It's heating up. It's heating up,
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, we got a ton of stuff poppin'. You just
heard us with Senator and Paul Tulsey Gabbard at the
White House briefing at the Rosterum. There beside Caroline let
Levitt said a couple of different things that I want
to play for you. First, this is a ten minute
(19:15):
roughly discussion, so we're pulling a couple of minutes out
of this. I just retweeted the full ten minutes. I
would encourage you guys to go watch the full ten
minutes for yourselves, and you can go to at Clay
Travis on Twitter. You can find it. The Trump White
House has shared it. But again, I always want you
to listen to everything in totality. But here are two
different cuts Here is cut thirty one irrefutable evidence that
(19:40):
Barack Obama and his national security team knew that this
evidence was false and directed its creation. This is cut
thirty one Tulsa Gabberd.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't.
(20:10):
The report that we released today's shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources.
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld
the truth from the American people. In doing so, they
(20:32):
conspired to subvert the will of the American people who
elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against
him and his administration. We're here today because the American
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people deserve the truth.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, how much smarter is Tulsi, by the way, than
Kamala Harris. Remember when they were trying to decide who
is going to be Biden's VP. Just think about that
for a moment as I continue to play these cuts,
I just want that in the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
These are explosive allegations. They made a big mistake on
that one.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, she might be President of the United States right
now if they had chosen her as the VP and
had to elevate her twenty fifth amendmented old Joe, I
think possibly. I think you're right too, because she's sharp,
whatever you think of her. And remember she ran for
president as a Democrat, which is why I think she's
so effective here making this case. She ran in twenty
two she was a Democrat for most of her life.
(21:31):
Here she is saying, this is a big, big Matza ball.
Here they have referred all of this evidence to the
Department of Justice that they believe Obama committed crimes Cut
thirty two, and this new.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Information implicates former President Obama and criminal behavior. We have
referred and will continue to refer all of these documents
to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate
the criminal implications of this.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
For even the evidence Obama correct.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The evidence that we have found and that we have
released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of
this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and
intelligence that confirm that fact.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh okay, Clay, so here's here. Here's maybe where this goes.
Now that I'm seeing them, like, you know, hey, we're
dealing with this in real time as it happens. They
just just so everyone's on the same page here. Criminal
referrals the DOJ about things like this happen all the
time and nothing comes of them. Just remember that, especially
about things like leaks, and a referral of the DOJ
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just means it's almost like a tip, Hey, this is here,
we got this a look at crime here. You should
investigate it further, you know. But that's it's very preliminary. Okay,
So the referral is something, but it's a one step
in a very long journey. But you could have Pam
Bondi in I don't know, a few weeks time, baby, sooner.
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Whatever the timeline is come forward and say the DOJ
has substantial evidence of Barack Obama involved in what we
believe was a suspicious, a seditious and suspicious, but a
seditious conspiracy. However, we know the Supreme Court has established
an immunity for Obama's official acts. So even though he
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was engaged in what we think at this stage was criminal,
the Department does not think it would be in the
interest of the American people to go forward because prosecution
would likely be impossible. But you know, be true. You
get it all on the record, right, you get it
all out there. Look, we think, we think Obama's a crook,
but he was president, so we can't do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, and that's going to frustrate people because it's basically
what happened with Hillary.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We think that there was a crime, but we don't
think we could prosecute. You also had, basically Robert her
say that about Biden's handling of the classified documents, this
was criminal, but he's an old man with mush for brains,
and so we don't think a jury would convict him.
Here are some other cuts. I would say these are
landing like body blows. Cut thirty three Tulsi saying this
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was a major disservice to the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
About Obama's statement, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It's a disservice to the American people that former President
Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that
is being delivered by releasing these documents, they are doing
a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect
away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal
and negative action towards the American people and our democratic republic.
(24:39):
The answer to that statement can very clearly be found
throughout all of the documents that we have released, again
showing that Russia has took action to try to sew
discord in the election, but showed no preference for or
against any singular candidate.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
In other words, and we're going to play this cut
because I think it ties in Russia was just a malefactor, right,
They just wanted to make America weaker. They didn't particularly
care how they weakened us, whether it was through Trump,
whether it was from Hillary. And I would argue this
is probably the most successful ever impact because what it's
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done is Russia has sown tremendous discord in America about
our democratic processes, because that's exactly what they would have
wanted to do. Here, Tulsey is saying Russia believed that
Hillary Clinton had significant emotional problems according to the documents
they've uncovered.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Here's cut thirty four.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the
State Department to State Department employees who would go and
support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. They were high level DNC
emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then
Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.
(26:04):
Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious, substandard sources to create a contrived,
false narrative that Putin developed a quote unquote clear preference
for Trump. Brennan and the ICE misled lawmakers by referencing
the debunked Steele dossier to assess quote unquote Russia's plans
and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value
(26:27):
when he knew that it was discredited.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, let's keep going here because there's a lot of bombshells,
and then we'll react to him here as the show continues.
Here is Tulsi saying, the details of this are far reaching,
and it's clear to her that a president manufactured a
scandal to undermine the incoming administration.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Cut thirty five.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
This is a brief summary of the details that you'll
find within the House Majority Staff's report in their investigation
into the Obama directed January twenty seventeen intelligence community assessment
that leads us to the very same conclusion that we
announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The
implications of this are far reaching and have to do
(27:08):
with the integrity of our democratic republic. It has to
do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence
to undermine and usurp the will of the American people
in that election and launch what would be a year's
long coup against the incoming president of the United States Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, couple more cuts, because there's a lot here. You
mentioned Buck, the possibility what would the charges look like
treasonous conspiracy was one of the things that you referenced
on the program. Cut thirty six is I believe a
discussion of that. Listen to President yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You've inferred, as the former president Helpley to coop based
on what you now see, do you believe President Obama
is guilty of treason?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice.
I am not an attorney, but as I have said previously,
when you look at the intentind creating a fake, manufactured
intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created
by the intelligence community, the expressed intent and what followed
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afterward can only be described as a year's long coup
and a tries and his conspiracy against the American people
are republic and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Whoa, whoa, yeah, that's big barrels. That's okay time Now
I want to play this too. You're all hearing this.
I'm trying to play as much of what tools he
said we are so you can all hear it. What
would happen if you were watching this on CNN they
cut away? This is important because what you hear and
what we hear is very different than what you might
(28:48):
hear if you watch CNN, MSNBC, read The New York Times,
The Washington Post. They're not getting told the full story.
But I thought this was good. You're going to hear
CNN say we got to cut away from this cut
thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Multiple intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up
to the November twenty sixteen election concluded that Russia had
neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of
the US election. On December fifth.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
We've been listening there to the Director of National Intelligence,
Tulsea Gabbard, continuing on what has now been a multi
day effort not only with public statements like this, but
release of documents to attempt to back up the quite
extreme allegation that President Obama is guilty of treason and
then he worked in some sort of conspiracy with Hillary Clinton, etc.
(29:36):
In the assessment by the intelligence community at the time
that Russia interfered in the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Okay, CNN was part of the conspiracy. Just to be clear,
CNN was a co conspirator in the Russia collusion fabrication.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Not only that they gave them awards that they still have,
all of them got poets at the New York Times,
at the Washington Post. The media establishment not only got took.
They actually went out there and said you're the sterling
(30:12):
example of truth and speaking out to hold people accountable.
They still have the Pulitzers. They haven't returned them. They
got Pulitzers for one hundred percent fake news. They rewarded
and awarded everyone who was involved in peddling these lives
this big look. Whatever you think, And again I am
(30:35):
skeptical based on history as we set off the top
of the show buck to that there will actually be
criminal charges brought here. I do think at a minimum,
this is rewriting in real time what many people believe
about the twenty sixteen election. And then again to me,
it connects to twenty twenty and whatever you think, how
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amazing does Tulsi sound the clips that we played just
right up there firing away sharing all of these details.
And I think it's particularly a sign of strength for
Trump that this is not a longtime right wing idiologue
who was making this case. It's a former Democrat, someone
(31:21):
who ran for president against Trump in twenty twenty, someone
that Joe Biden supposedly considered as a vice presidential running mate.
As soon as he said that I'm only going to
pick a woman and I would just say, whatever your politics.
Can you imagine Kamala Harris trying to lay this out
(31:42):
in any kind of understandable, coherent fashion.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I can't just like Tulsa did. We'll talk about this more.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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We will go over ninety thousand today. See how high
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They're one of that. That's one hundred, that's one hundred
and fifty thousand. I think there might have to be
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But she knows, she knows her various, she has many names.
She knows her names are right. Important things. Important things.
One they're trying to fire twenty five thousand IRS agents, everybody.
That's just something going on right now. Yes, so irs
(34:17):
about to get a haircut, get a haircut, as they say,
Telsey Gabbert's just dropping bombs from the White House podium
on the coup, the soft coup attempt of the Obama
slash Hillary apparatus. And they've referred Obama to the DOJ
for prosecution. They are they are digging in on this.
(34:38):
They seem serious about this clearly. And also some information
clay about Hillary Clinton having major health issues that were
hidden from the American people. You can't give the Democrats
any benefit of any doubt on that whatsoever, because we
know what they did with Joe Bidd they all knew
we had dementia. They didn't care. Do you think if
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Hillary was racked with all kinds of health, not just health,
but emotional and psychological health problem is what they're trying.
Psycho emotional problems is what they're discussing here. That's from
that's a quote from Tulca Gabbard Clay psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of rage for example. Oh that's not a
surprise of Hillary. Uh, you know, let's be honest, right,
(35:21):
So yeah, this is this is this has an interesting
You know, Barack Obama's team never responds to Trump's stuff.
They responded on this. They put out an official Obama
statement saying, oh, it's all laws.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Here is what I think is going to be the
ultimate irony of all of this. I think Obama's best
defense is going to be the Trump precedents that the
Supreme Court just put in place. And I don't know
how long it's going to take for people to circle
around and realize this that you listen to in media.
I am telling you Trump was given expansive powers as
(35:55):
president to look into what happened in the twenty twenty election.
Obama's team is going to have say Obama had the
same powers to look into the twenty sixteen election. This
was within the scope of presidential powers. Also, what Tulsea
said is really important. She said she believes that what
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Obama did he knew was false. I'm telling you, when
from a legal perspective knew did he know it was false?
It's really hard to prove knowledge in something like this,
so knew was false and presidential powers using the precedent
(36:36):
that was already put in place to protect Trump from
being prosecuted. The irony here is that Trump may well
have protected Obama. Oh My, more on this tomorrow. Thank
y'all for hanging with us.
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are waiting on Senator rand Tall.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Of Kentucky to join us a lot of different stories.
We have been discussing Tulsi Gabbard having a press conference
right now to discuss the Russia Gate documents that have
been released. We need to get Tulsi on the program.
Producer Ali Buck met with her recently. I would have
(00:25):
except I didn't have the real ID, so I couldn't
get into the meeting, which is very part for the course.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Clay showed up at the velvet rope. He's like, come on, man,
I know Trump, and they were like, you're not on
the list. Look at those flip flops.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I this is the only thing I've been turned away
from for not having a real ID. Now I travel
with my passport. I do have a passport, but for
some reason, the State of Tennessee licenses. I would have
to make an appointment and spend a whole day to
get a star on my ID, so I haven't been
willing to do it. But Buck met with Tulci. We
met with a bunch of people in the intelligence agencies
(01:00):
under Trump. We will get Tulsi on the program. Again
sometime in the future, and we are monitoring this press
conference and we will glab grab a lot of the
audio that she is sharing right now. Other news as
we have talked about major trader deals being announced, and
we now have been joined by Senator Ran Paul who
(01:21):
is with us, and Senator appreciate you joining us. I'll
just ask the big question right off the top. You
got Tulci Gabbard coming out with Russia Gate. You have
been documents that seem to show that the truth was
known and not shared with the American public as it
pertains to Russia's involvement in the twenty sixteen election. You
(01:43):
have been trying to hold doctor Anthony Fauci accountable for
a very long time over the lies that I think
we believe he told under oath relating to COVID and
American gain a function research and all these things. I
would say the number one question that Buck and I
get on a regular basis is we see all the evidence.
We believe that there is ample evidence there for charges
(02:05):
to be brought. Yet all of these people in positions
of power never have charges brought against him. They can
find anybody who walked into the Capitol on January sixth
and arrest them and throw the book at them. But
if you're super powerful and you're on the left side
of the political equation, nothing ever happens to you, will anything.
Are you as frustrated as our average listener would be
(02:27):
over this?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes? And you know I sense the frustration, and I
see some of the responses on our social media. What
are you gonna do? When are you gonna arrest Bauci?
People do have to realize I have no ability to
arrest anyone, but the Department of Justice does, and I've
done everything I can. I referred Fauci twice under Biden.
I presumed they would ignore it, but now I have
(02:49):
referred him, most recently just in the last week, to
the Trump Department of Justice. And there needs to be
a hue and cry that he needs to be prosecuted.
I think he clearly lied Congress. The other thing is
is it would bring up his pardon, and then I
think in court we need to have a test case
to see if a auto pen signature is a valid pardon.
(03:12):
I think there would be then in court the discussion
of who ran the auto pen, who gave them the orders?
You know, I think so far we know the person
running the autopen says some guy that worked for Joe
Biden told him to do it, and so ultimately you'd
have to have the test You could, essentially, I think,
bring in the testimony of ultimately either the the you know,
(03:35):
the President's wife or the president. It'd be hard to
get them into court, but this would be a test
case of whether that parton holds.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Senator Paul always appreciate you being with us. I want
to ask you about the FED one. I know, I
think you want to get more of a look into
the books at the FED, but can you also speak
to the what is it a two billion dollar renovation
that the Federal Reserves Washington, DC headquarters has gotten. You know,
(04:02):
I know in DC money has a whole different meaning
or lack of meaning depending but two billion dollars for rental,
that's pretty pricey stuff. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, you know, the Federal Reserve doesn't even have congressional
oversight as far as the power of the purse. They
just printed up. They've got their own printing press, and
they spend whatever they feel like spending. And so they
started out at one point nine billion and they're six
hundred billion over they're show up to two point five billion.
They're six hundred thousand dollars worth, a thirty three percent
increase in over over the original estimate. But you know,
(04:37):
you want to talk about real money. The thing the
Federal Reserve is doing right now that offends me more
than anything else is they're paying big banks in New
York and around the world not to loan money. It's
a program that started in two thousand and nine. They
were paying banks I got a quarter of a point
or half a point not to loan money, and it
was it was money, but it wasn't huge amounts. Now
(04:59):
they're fantom four point four percent of about a week
or two ago, and that four point four percent equals
one hundred and eighty eight billion dollars, and forty percent
of that money is going to foreign banks. So it's
not only the Federal Reserve, you know, holds the American debt,
so we have to raise taxes to pay the Federal
Reserve interest. They get our interest, then they're paying our
(05:19):
interest back to big banks to tell them not to
loan money. It's the craziest scam you've ever heard of,
but it's real money now. And you know, there's nothing
that unites the right and the left. It's when taxpayer
money or government controlled money like this is going from
the regular middle class to the very wealthy elite, not
only of our country but of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
We're talking to Center Ram Paul of Kentucky. What did
you think of Andy Basheer's Vogue photoshoot?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I think he's running for Secretary of Transportation.
I think he really wants to be the next beat
Boodhaje Edge, so I think he's got a great shot
at it.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I was looking at these photos and I just thought
to myself, who in Kentucky is thinking, Hey, you know,
I really want to see a Vogue photoshoot of the
governor and I when I saw this, I was like, oh,
I bet because I remember you came on with this
last time, said he's going to try to run for president.
But I just look at this guy. He's one of
the worst governors out there. To do that, to sign
off on the Vogue photoshoot, I couldn't believe it was real.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Well, here's the real question. Did Vogue actually ask him
about vetoing a bill that would have stopped sextaine surgeries
for miners, so our Republican legislature put for him a
bill to no longer have miners not allow miners to
make a decision to have this permanent surgery, and he
vetoed it, so our Republican legislature and President of him
(06:43):
promptly overrode him. But this guy is not part of
the mainstream. He's part of the extreme left, and he
got lucky somehow to win in our state. But there's
nothing about him that is moderate. He is as progressive
as the day is long.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Senator Paul something that's gotten bit of attention today. It
has to do with the president's ability to get his
appointees in place, particularly on the judiciary side, and when
it comes to US attorneys, as the Trump administration appointed
Alena Habba, one of Trump's lawyers, to be the US
(07:18):
attorney in New Jersey. A US attorney in New Jersey,
judges there decided Democrat appointed judges, no shock to anyone
that she was unacceptable and they just picked someone else.
Now that I understand is getting a bit specific into
what's going on in New Jersey. But how is it
going with Senate confirmation of various appointees, and specifically for
(07:41):
judicial nominees, because that's such a critical thing to be
functioning efficiently. And I am hearing some complaints from people
who well work right near you on Capitol Hill about
Senate Leader Thun and not getting this thing done with
the efficiency and and you know, absolute sense of urgency
(08:03):
that it needs to be done.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know. The good news is is that we've actually
approved twice as many as we had in twenty seventeen
when Trump won in twenty seventeen. By this time in
the summer of that first year, we had approved about
fifty five. I think we're up over one hundred and ten.
So it's a slow, laborious process, and the Democrats are
worse than they've ever been in the sense that it
typically and historically, the leadership would sit down from each
(08:29):
party at the end of the week that'd agree to
a list of ten or fifteen that pass them all
together in one group by voice vote. None of that
happens anymore. So we have like fifteen hundred Trump appointees
and we got to vote on them one at a time.
Most of them we have to wait two hours we
vote to get onto the bill to vote for them
and then two hours later to confirm them. So it's laborious,
(08:50):
but the good news is we've done twice as many
as we did in twenty seventeen. So I think given
the Democrats opposition and obstruction, I think we're doing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
What should happen with the Russia Gate. We've got Tulca
Gabbert having a press conference right now. You went through
all of this in the attempt to delegitimize Trump's election
in twenty sixteen, I said on the air, I actually
think the twenty twenty actions that were done to try
to argue from the fifty one intelligence agents, the hunter
(09:21):
Biden laptop, not releasing the fact that maybe we thought
back then, hey, we've got a successful vaccine. There were
a lot of things that could have been out publicly
that could have swung this election a big way. I
think twenty twenty was rigged substantially. But what should happen
associated with twenty sixteen in your mind, both practically and
if you had an ideal world, right, because there's the
(09:44):
reality of what can happen and what should happen, how
would you distinguish between those two?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, I always look at things. In general terms,
I'm horrified by what they did to Donald Trump, and
it should make everyone mad. But I'm also concerned about
average ordinary Americans and what they can do, and what
do power means could be done to average ordinary Americans.
So I'm for taking that power away. You know, some
people want Brennan in jail, they want Obama in jail,
and those things are unlikely to happen. But the one
(10:11):
thing we could do is the Congresses take power away
from the intelligence agencies. They should not have this much power.
I have always thought from the beginning. I've said it publicly.
I believe that Brennan called foreign governments and used their
intelligence agencies to spy on the Trump campaign. Remember these
random meetings in the bar with different Trump campaign officials.
(10:34):
I don't believe they were random. I think they were planned.
And I think because it's illegal for our CIA to
investigate americans, much less americans involved in politics, I think
they got our allies in on it. And I think
there is a been a massive cover up from the
very beginning on this. I do think what she's pointing out,
what Tolsey Glbert has said, is incredibly important. The assessment
(10:58):
by all of the Intelligence Agency after twenty sixteen is
that the Russians, like they always do, tried to mess
with our elections. That it was ineffectual, it was tiny,
it was minute, It was some Facebook ads and did
not affect the outcome. That was the conclusion. But then
that conclusion was vetoed by Brennan and high ranking people
(11:18):
because they chose to create a narrative that the election
was stolen, that the election was illegitimate. Hillary Clinton said it,
Jimmy Carter said it, all the leading Democrats said that
Trump was an illegitimate president. And what they did is
they then ceded information throughout all of the government to
try to start this narrative that there was a Russian collusion.
(11:39):
One of the most bizarre parts of this is the
Hillary Clinton campaign pays for the Steele dossier that has
this so called incriminating information and if they give it
to our government, but then they also send Steel to Halifax,
Nova Scotia to meet John McCain and secretly give him
the file as well. He comes back to Washington, takes
(12:01):
the bait, is all hysterical, and then gives it back
to government. But that's where it started. So the government
commissioned Steel to go back. It starts with the Clinton campaign.
This Christopher Steele, a former spy, collects all this nonsense,
puts it in the folder, gives it to John McCain,
who breathlessly races back to Washington to help get the
thing started. But this was a big sy ops. This
(12:23):
was a big operation by intelligence community, and of course
it was illegal. And I'm proud of Telsey Gabbards for
getting to the bottom and I hope she continues to
overturn and expose this corruption.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Transparency is incredibly important on this, So Senator Paul, we
agree with you wholeheartedly on that. Do you think it
is feasible, not even likely, but feasible that anybody could
be put in handcuffs based on what they did with
Russia collusion.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, they'll all tell a different tale, and you know,
changing an intelligence they'll say they got other information. It's
going to be hard to put anybody in jail on that.
But the main thing I always looked for in this
is trying to fix the system so it doesn't happen again.
So what we should conclude from this is intelligency agencies
(13:15):
have the power to destroy individuals and so there needs
to be more checks and balances and less ability of
an intelligence agency to investigate Americans. This goes along with
the FISA database that they have, which a lot of
Americans are sucked up into the system. It goes along
with that Quiet Sky's program where they were spying on
Tulsa Gabbard when she was on planes. There's so much
(13:37):
abuse and nobody in Congress knows anything about what the
intelligence agencies do other than to the Intelligence Committee in
the Senate and the House, and they silo off the
information and they try to prevent any other members from
knowing exactly what they're doing. Their budgets are secret. It's
very like pulling teeth to get any kind of look
at any of their budgets. So, yeah, there's too much power.
(13:59):
And we went through this after JEdgar Hoover, and he
was using the power of the office to blackmail people.
He was using the power of the office to illegally
expiring people. And there were big reforms in the seventies,
but since the nineteen seventies, the reforms that weren't off
and the intelligence agencies have grown too strong again. What
they did to Donald Trump should be a call a
(14:20):
clarion call for us to reform them and strip back
their power.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Senator Ram Paul, appreciate you making time for us, sir.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
On the real ID, Clay, I got to tell you,
if you stand in the line to get the chip
put in, they can insert that chip in no time
at all. And there's no line.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't even know what that means. I feel like
this is a joke.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You're so dead painting it there that I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
It is exactly you get an either line. But now
it took me three months to get the damn real ID,
and they kept refusing to give it to me because
some of my documents said Randall and not rand and
they weren't sure I was who I was presenting myself
to be.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
This drives me.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You go in and out of Nashville like I do,
because you live in Kentucky, but this drives me absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I hate it. I hate it. I hate it, and
we fought it for years and years of Kentucky, and
finally they take away your right to travel. Apparently the
right to travel is a privilege and you can only
travel under the government auspices. It's a step in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Amen, all right, Senator Paul, thank you so much. Clay.
Also that dead pen when I had no idea that
was a job, Well, he got me. He's such a
serious guy.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Usually he really got me because I was getting ready
for you to read, and I was like an implant.
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All right, so we've got some breaking news here from
Tulsi Gabber, the d NI Director of National Intelligence. People
forget too very much part of MAGA, part of Trump's
senior most his most senior intelligence official, a Democrat formerly
and has come over into the light and into the
into the warm embrace of Magah. But she has referred
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Barack Obama to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution. She
announced this. We will play some sound bites for you again, guys.
I could be wrong, Clay could be wrong on this one.
Maybe this. Maybe this does go more of a distance
that we had anticipated. It's possible I completely and and
any criminal wrongdoing should be punished. Anything they can prove
in a court of law that violates statue, absolutely, go
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for it. We'll see, we'll play some of this. We
have some updates for you. It's heating up. It's heating up,
so stay with us for this. We'll get right back
to it in a minute. Tard to imagine we as
a country have a national national asset worth more than
one hundred trillion, but we do if you add it
all up. So there could also be a plan to
monetize these natural resources under our nation's surface. And if
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you listen to presidential and former presidential advisor Jim Rickards,
this plan is bigger than any of us can comprehend
right now. Jim knows what he's talking about. He's made
huge predictions in the past, like the two thousand and
eight crash and Trump's twenty sixteen victory. Rickards believes President
Trump is about to onlysha one hundred and fifty trillion
dollars state owned asset hidden for over a century, which
could trigger an economic boom and help people make lots
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of money if they properly position themselves. But you gotta
see because once this breaks his mainstream news, the opportunity vanishes.
You gotta see Jim's interview for yourself. Do your homework
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, we got a ton of stuff poppin'. You just
heard us with Senator and Paul Tulsey Gabbard at the
White House briefing at the Rosterum. There beside Caroline let
Levitt said a couple of different things that I want
to play for you. First, this is a ten minute
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roughly discussion, so we're pulling a couple of minutes out
of this. I just retweeted the full ten minutes. I
would encourage you guys to go watch the full ten
minutes for yourselves, and you can go to at Clay
Travis on Twitter. You can find it. The Trump White
House has shared it. But again, I always want you
to listen to everything in totality. But here are two
different cuts Here is cut thirty one irrefutable evidence that
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Barack Obama and his national security team knew that this
evidence was false and directed its creation. This is cut
thirty one Tulsa Gabberd.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't.
(20:10):
The report that we released today's shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources.
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld
the truth from the American people. In doing so, they
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conspired to subvert the will of the American people who
elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against
him and his administration. We're here today because the American
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people deserve the truth.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, how much smarter is Tulsi, by the way, than
Kamala Harris. Remember when they were trying to decide who
is going to be Biden's VP. Just think about that
for a moment as I continue to play these cuts,
I just want that in the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
These are explosive allegations. They made a big mistake on
that one.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, she might be President of the United States right
now if they had chosen her as the VP and
had to elevate her twenty fifth amendmented old Joe, I
think possibly. I think you're right too, because she's sharp,
whatever you think of her. And remember she ran for
president as a Democrat, which is why I think she's
so effective here making this case. She ran in twenty
two she was a Democrat for most of her life.
(21:31):
Here she is saying, this is a big, big Matza ball.
Here they have referred all of this evidence to the
Department of Justice that they believe Obama committed crimes Cut
thirty two, and this new.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Information implicates former President Obama and criminal behavior. We have
referred and will continue to refer all of these documents
to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate
the criminal implications of this.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
For even the evidence Obama correct.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
The evidence that we have found and that we have
released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of
this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and
intelligence that confirm that fact.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Oh okay, Clay, so here's here. Here's maybe where this goes.
Now that I'm seeing them, like, you know, hey, we're
dealing with this in real time as it happens. They
just just so everyone's on the same page here. Criminal
referrals the DOJ about things like this happen all the
time and nothing comes of them. Just remember that, especially
about things like leaks, and a referral of the DOJ
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just means it's almost like a tip, Hey, this is here,
we got this a look at crime here. You should
investigate it further, you know. But that's it's very preliminary. Okay,
So the referral is something, but it's a one step
in a very long journey. But you could have Pam
Bondi in I don't know, a few weeks time, baby, sooner.
(23:00):
Whatever the timeline is come forward and say the DOJ
has substantial evidence of Barack Obama involved in what we
believe was a suspicious, a seditious and suspicious, but a
seditious conspiracy. However, we know the Supreme Court has established
an immunity for Obama's official acts. So even though he
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was engaged in what we think at this stage was criminal,
the Department does not think it would be in the
interest of the American people to go forward because prosecution
would likely be impossible. But you know, be true. You
get it all on the record, right, you get it
all out there. Look, we think, we think Obama's a crook,
but he was president, so we can't do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, and that's going to frustrate people because it's basically
what happened with Hillary.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We think that there was a crime, but we don't
think we could prosecute. You also had, basically Robert her
say that about Biden's handling of the classified documents, this
was criminal, but he's an old man with mush for brains,
and so we don't think a jury would convict him.
Here are some other cuts. I would say these are
landing like body blows. Cut thirty three Tulsi saying this
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was a major disservice to the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
About Obama's statement, I think.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It's a disservice to the American people that former President
Obama's office and others who are criticizing the transparency that
is being delivered by releasing these documents, they are doing
a disservice to the American people and trying to deflect
away from their culpability in what is a historic scandal
and negative action towards the American people and our democratic republic.
(24:39):
The answer to that statement can very clearly be found
throughout all of the documents that we have released, again
showing that Russia has took action to try to sew
discord in the election, but showed no preference for or
against any singular candidate.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
In other words, and we're going to play this cut
because I think it ties in Russia was just a malefactor, right,
They just wanted to make America weaker. They didn't particularly
care how they weakened us, whether it was through Trump,
whether it was from Hillary. And I would argue this
is probably the most successful ever impact because what it's
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done is Russia has sown tremendous discord in America about
our democratic processes, because that's exactly what they would have
wanted to do. Here, Tulsey is saying Russia believed that
Hillary Clinton had significant emotional problems according to the documents
they've uncovered.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Here's cut thirty four.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the
State Department to State Department employees who would go and
support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. They were high level DNC
emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then
Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.
(26:04):
Then CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious, substandard sources to create a contrived,
false narrative that Putin developed a quote unquote clear preference
for Trump. Brennan and the ICE misled lawmakers by referencing
the debunked Steele dossier to assess quote unquote Russia's plans
and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value
(26:27):
when he knew that it was discredited.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, let's keep going here because there's a lot of bombshells,
and then we'll react to him here as the show continues.
Here is Tulsi saying, the details of this are far reaching,
and it's clear to her that a president manufactured a
scandal to undermine the incoming administration.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Cut thirty five.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
This is a brief summary of the details that you'll
find within the House Majority Staff's report in their investigation
into the Obama directed January twenty seventeen intelligence community assessment
that leads us to the very same conclusion that we
announced in the release of our documents on Friday. The
implications of this are far reaching and have to do
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with the integrity of our democratic republic. It has to
do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence
to undermine and usurp the will of the American people
in that election and launch what would be a year's
long coup against the incoming president of the United States Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, couple more cuts, because there's a lot here. You
mentioned Buck, the possibility what would the charges look like
treasonous conspiracy was one of the things that you referenced
on the program. Cut thirty six is I believe a
discussion of that. Listen to President yesterday.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You've inferred, as the former president Helpley to coop based
on what you now see, do you believe President Obama
is guilty of treason?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I'm leaving the criminal charges to the Department of Justice.
I am not an attorney, but as I have said previously,
when you look at the intentind creating a fake, manufactured
intelligence document that directly contradicts multiple assessments that were created
by the intelligence community, the expressed intent and what followed
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afterward can only be described as a year's long coup
and a tries and his conspiracy against the American people
are republic and an attempt to undermine President Trump's administration.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Whoa, whoa, yeah, that's big barrels. That's okay time Now
I want to play this too. You're all hearing this.
I'm trying to play as much of what tools he
said we are so you can all hear it. What
would happen if you were watching this on CNN they
cut away? This is important because what you hear and
what we hear is very different than what you might
(28:48):
hear if you watch CNN, MSNBC, read The New York Times,
The Washington Post. They're not getting told the full story.
But I thought this was good. You're going to hear
CNN say we got to cut away from this cut
thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Multiple intelligence community assessments released in the months leading up
to the November twenty sixteen election concluded that Russia had
neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of
the US election. On December fifth.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
We've been listening there to the Director of National Intelligence,
Tulsea Gabbard, continuing on what has now been a multi
day effort not only with public statements like this, but
release of documents to attempt to back up the quite
extreme allegation that President Obama is guilty of treason and
then he worked in some sort of conspiracy with Hillary Clinton, etc.
(29:36):
In the assessment by the intelligence community at the time
that Russia interfered in the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Okay, CNN was part of the conspiracy. Just to be clear,
CNN was a co conspirator in the Russia collusion fabrication.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Not only that they gave them awards that they still have,
all of them got poets at the New York Times,
at the Washington Post. The media establishment not only got took.
They actually went out there and said you're the sterling
(30:12):
example of truth and speaking out to hold people accountable.
They still have the Pulitzers. They haven't returned them. They
got Pulitzers for one hundred percent fake news. They rewarded
and awarded everyone who was involved in peddling these lives
this big look. Whatever you think, And again I am
(30:35):
skeptical based on history as we set off the top
of the show buck to that there will actually be
criminal charges brought here. I do think at a minimum,
this is rewriting in real time what many people believe
about the twenty sixteen election. And then again to me,
it connects to twenty twenty and whatever you think, how
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amazing does Tulsi sound the clips that we played just
right up there firing away sharing all of these details.
And I think it's particularly a sign of strength for
Trump that this is not a longtime right wing idiologue
who was making this case. It's a former Democrat, someone
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who ran for president against Trump in twenty twenty, someone
that Joe Biden supposedly considered as a vice presidential running mate.
As soon as he said that I'm only going to
pick a woman and I would just say, whatever your politics.
Can you imagine Kamala Harris trying to lay this out
(31:42):
in any kind of understandable, coherent fashion.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I can't just like Tulsa did. We'll talk about this more.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
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judge is refusing to release the grand jury transcripts from
that case too, so we got breaking news everywhere in
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But she knows, she knows her various, she has many names.
She knows her names are right. Important things. Important things.
One they're trying to fire twenty five thousand IRS agents, everybody.
That's just something going on right now. Yes, so irs
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about to get a haircut, get a haircut, as they say,
Telsey Gabbert's just dropping bombs from the White House podium
on the coup, the soft coup attempt of the Obama
slash Hillary apparatus. And they've referred Obama to the DOJ
for prosecution. They are they are digging in on this.
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They seem serious about this clearly. And also some information
clay about Hillary Clinton having major health issues that were
hidden from the American people. You can't give the Democrats
any benefit of any doubt on that whatsoever, because we
know what they did with Joe Bidd they all knew
we had dementia. They didn't care. Do you think if
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Hillary was racked with all kinds of health, not just health,
but emotional and psychological health problem is what they're trying.
Psycho emotional problems is what they're discussing here. That's from
that's a quote from Tulca Gabbard Clay psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of rage for example. Oh that's not a
surprise of Hillary. Uh, you know, let's be honest, right,
(35:21):
So yeah, this is this is this has an interesting
You know, Barack Obama's team never responds to Trump's stuff.
They responded on this. They put out an official Obama
statement saying, oh, it's all laws.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Here is what I think is going to be the
ultimate irony of all of this. I think Obama's best
defense is going to be the Trump precedents that the
Supreme Court just put in place. And I don't know
how long it's going to take for people to circle
around and realize this that you listen to in media.
I am telling you Trump was given expansive powers as
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president to look into what happened in the twenty twenty election.
Obama's team is going to have say Obama had the
same powers to look into the twenty sixteen election. This
was within the scope of presidential powers. Also, what Tulsea
said is really important. She said she believes that what
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Obama did he knew was false. I'm telling you, when
from a legal perspective knew did he know it was false?
It's really hard to prove knowledge in something like this,
so knew was false and presidential powers using the precedent
(36:36):
that was already put in place to protect Trump from
being prosecuted. The irony here is that Trump may well
have protected Obama. Oh My, more on this tomorrow. Thank
y'all for hanging with us.
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