April 2, 2025 • 34 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a discussion on "Liberation Day," as President Trump calls it, focusing on the new tariffs and their potential impact on the American economy. The hosts delve into the concept of reciprocal tariffs and the need for fair trade practices, emphasizing the importance of protecting American manufacturers and workers.
The conversation continues with listener feedback on the controversial arrest of a father in Augusta, Georgia, who left his children at a McDonald's playground during a job interview. The hosts engage with callers, including law enforcement officers and parents, to explore the nuances of child abandonment laws and parental responsibilities. They discuss the discretion involved in such cases and the importance of context in determining appropriate actions.
The hosts also touch on the broader implications of the Covenant School shooting report, highlighting the motivations of the transgender shooter and the need for armed security in schools. They emphasize the importance of understanding the ideological factors behind such attacks and the role of law enforcement in preventing future tragedies.
In addition to these topics, the show covers the potential acquisition of TikTok by Amazon, analyzing the implications for the tech industry and social media landscape. The hosts discuss the changing media consumption habits of younger audiences and the significance of digital platforms in modern society.
The hour concludes with a tribute to actor Val Kilmer, who passed away after a long battle with cancer. The hosts reflect on Kilmer's iconic roles in films like "Tombstone," "Heat," and "Top Gun," celebrating his contributions to the entertainment industry and his memorable performances.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now and just letting you know where we're going here.
We're going to talk about Liberation Day as Trump is
calling it in just a moment, Tariffs, what's going on
in a sense remaking and molding of the American economy
as it pertains to trade, which obviously affects the economy overall.
(00:24):
We will dive into that momentarily, but first off, remember
last hour, we're talking about this the basics of the case.
A father, African American, twenty four years old, Augusta, Georgia,
ten year old, six year old, one year old, he's
going for an interview. He leaves his kids in McDonald's
playground attached to McDonald's restaurant. Comes back, he's arrested and
(00:46):
a lot of people are going back and forth on this.
We weren't there, We don't have all the details, but
wanted to hear from you. This is interesting with it,
and we got a lot of calls, a lot of
vip emails. So funny, Clay, we talk about, like how
do we end the war with Ukraine? And like we
get some calls we talk about how old can you be?
And as a parent or how old can your kid
be as a parent and you let them in public
and people are fired up, so a lot of lines
(01:08):
lit and a lot of VIPs and otherwise, let's take Roman,
he's a cop in Boston, wants to weigh it on
how this factors in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thanks Roman, Hey, good afternoon, guys. How you doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Good, Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay in Massachusetts. And I've been a crop for twenty
nine years in the city in the Greater Boston area
in Massachusetts. The child's abandon abandonment laws don't do not
specifically state an age. That's done on a case by
case basis, and it's up to the discretion of the officer.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think where this kid got.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
In trouble was with the one year old, because ten
and a six year old, you know what I mean,
people see a one year old with them for you know,
with the ten of to other younger kids, you know,
for a prolonged period of time to start thinking. And
if the cops arrived personally, would I have arrested the guy?
(02:07):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It depends he.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Was going for a job, if he was a hard worker.
I'd have to see the condition of the children. What
do you look like? If they were clean, if they
were well kept. But that's that's all discretionary. I didn't see.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's what I By the way, Roman, that's what I
figured it would be stick because I've never heard of
a hard line number in terms of the age. So
it's it's exactly what you're bringing because obviously you do this,
it's a whole range of factors.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, indeed, indeed you get to take in every single
little thing, even the appearance of the kids. Are they clean,
do they look malnourished? You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Also, Roman, what time was this? Because most ten and
six year old should be in school, So I'm presuming
that this was, you know, four o'clock in the afternoon
or something as opposed to ten am, because that would factory.
But I think Roman, for you, do you have kids?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well? I do, Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The one year old, I think for most dads and
moms out there is the that's tough, right, the ten
and six year old at a play area. I can
understand how you leave them for twenty or twenty five
minutes if you absolutely positively were so desperate that you
had to do something else, but that's why I want
more details. Thanks for bringing the law enforcement perspective to it, Roman,
(03:22):
and thank you for listening. Taylor in Utah wants to
weigh in on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
What's going on? Taylor?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Heany playing?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Buck? How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
We're good? Ask you? Are you listening in Salt Lake?
Where are you?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, We're I'm close to salt Lake. Just another freedom,
love and patriot where we love to shoot our guns
and pans here in Utah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Fantastic. Well, you know we're number one anywhere close to
Salt Lake, so that makes us very happy. Thank you
for listening. What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I had an incident similar to this about four or
five years ago. My son my wife had to run
to the store real quick, and it was I had
to work on a Saturday, and she called and asked
whether or not to leave him at home.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I said, yeah, he's going to be fine.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know you're going to be five minutes down the road.
I'm twenty minutes down the road working.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Her disgruntled aunt called the cops on us because we
left him at home. He was five a month away
from turning six and the cops showed up. It was
a big to do and it took me a while
to clean up my tools and get to the house.
And the cops were, Yeah, obviously didn't understand the law.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
We've got a law here in Jutah.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
The helicopter parenting law, where it's the parent's discretion at
which agent you can leave your child at home alone.
So I got pretty hot and heavy with officers because
they didn't understand the law.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They were threatening to arrent me. I got pretty loud,
and he.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Was like, well, sir, now I'm going to wrest you
for disorderly contact. I'm like, sir, I'm in my own home.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I said, it's my discretion that I can.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Leave my five year old at home alone. I can
send my five year old, you know, down to the
bus stop on his own. It's my determination the parents
at what age that I can leave my kids at
home alone, you know. And he had he had the
election that he could have called us from. We told
the neighbors that we were going to be gone for
just a bit, and uh so, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's completely and so you knew the law, and yeah,
I I uh interesting that that's that. The cops and
you had that kind of an exchange. Thank you for
calling in, Uh, Clay, you got something on this. Oh yeah,
I mean I just think so much of this. Every
parent is going to say the difference between how kids
were treated in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties in terms
(05:34):
of the freedom of movement versus today. I think that
his reference of the helicopter parenting, there's a lot of
parents out there that are hyper hyper vigilant in a
way that they were not when we were kind of
seeing parents that have the kids and I'm not if
you do this, this is your joy, but have ever
seen the parents have the kids that are on like
(05:55):
the least sho oh yeah, yeah, like they the kids
are running around and they're like the little harness but
you know, they look like they're going splunking or something.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, you mean it's great. I do think again, we
were talking a little bit. You went to New York City.
I grew up in the Nashville area. I would get
on the bus and every parent, every kid's different fifth grade,
ride home, empty house. Both my parents worked, walk home
from the bus stop, go into the house and unlock
the door and then sit and usually watch like television
(06:26):
until my family got home. My grandfather on one side
who passed away, you know, a while ago, but you know,
World War two veteran Greatest generation guy, one of those guys.
He I think he told me that he would drive
the truck. His family had like a place, you know,
in upstate New York and they had land, and he
would said he'd drive the truck at like ten or
(06:47):
eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, I was just like, he's like, there's there
were no cars. He's like, no, no, this was the
nineteen I don't know, nineteen thirties, yeah, nineteen thirties.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But when I just came back from Israel, I was
stunned by how many young kids they walk everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They said that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
One of the women at the IFCJ said her fourteen
year old daughter hitch Heights, Clinton. It's very common, she said.
And it's interesting, like cultures are different.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
These are high trust society. What we get to and
when you see you know, if a I'm telling you
if if a six year old kid is walking around
the streets by himself in Helsinki, versus a six year
old kid walking around the streets by himself, God forbid
in you know, uh Kuliya Khan, Mexico. It's just, you know,
(07:35):
the risk factors, It's just reality. The risk factors of
safety are incredibly different. And it's a shame that America
isn't a country where, you know, you have to be
vigilant about I mean, we shouldn't have to be so
vigilant about protecting our kids from you know, I'm not
talking about like electrical sockets and falling down. I mean
like predators and and you know, bad people kidnappers. All right,
(07:58):
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Speaker 6 (09:14):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We'll finish up these calls, and we got other topics
we wanted to hit. We got Bob in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Bob, go ahead, Hey guys first of all, to an
honor to speak to two patriots. I'm calling from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Thank you. We're honored to speak to you, and thank
you for holding for us. We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Thank you, sir, Thank you, Sir. I spent twenty years
investigating child welfare cases from seventy nine to ninety nine,
and I saw everything from A to Z, and any
conceivable factor can happen. I saw the worst thing possibly happen.
So the thing about the gentleman who is twenty four
(09:51):
being arrested, here's the way. There's no way to dance
around this. Nothing. The authorities or the police have to
be someone to something like that. The whole idea is
everything needs to be checked out. If the children are
held in custody, and if something doesn't jive real quick,
then that could That could be very brief. It could
(10:12):
be a day, It could be longer than that. But
you can't let something like this slide because the worst
possible scenario can and will and has happened in these situations.
Believe the guys I've seen it is that does this
gentleman belong in jail at that point? It depends on
what happened and during the investigation, if you know, if
(10:33):
there was contraband, if the guy was sure he was
at a job interview. I get that, but it depends
on the demeanor of the guy, what he did, how
he cooperated, who knows, We don't know. These are all variables.
But the bottom line, my bottom line in this, we've
got to protect the children.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No doubt, absolute, absolutely, thank you for Look, we got
all this law enforcement expertise in this audience. We appreciate
you calling in and filling us in on this. Like
the officer in Boston said, there's no law in Boston.
It's really about the age specifically you can be left alone,
but it's about the totality of everything going on. You know,
is there which which makes sense?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But VIP listener Debbie says, in Illinois, see this is
where you realize states have these things called laws that
are up to the states. And you know, we all
often think so much about federal law, but state laws
are are you very important And Illinois you have to
be fourteen before you can legally be left alone. So
I would have thought, though I would have thought thirteen,
was that it's fourteen in Illinois. According to VIP listener, Debbie.
(11:30):
So different states have different statutes on this. By the way,
a little bit of an update.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I got an email they're gonna send more details about this.
We're in on an AUGUSTA. I think there may be
some more details that add flavor to this story. So
just FYI just may get that even before the show,
is that this guy's now guy. He's got to go
fund me Antonio Brown the very famous football player wide
(11:55):
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Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, among other teams, my beloved Steelers.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It is a story that I think a lot of
people react to in a positive way. And again, I
just want to know all the further circumstances. But we
got a lot of different police officers who've waited in
How about Grandma's Virginia in Middletown, Rhode Island. How do
you react to this story, Virginia.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Oh, I think there's something you haven't talked about. The
person who called the police could have taken another tax
and could have stayed with the children and kept an
eye on them and waited for the father to come
back to make sure everything was okay.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So that is a very by the way, sorry to
cut you off, but that is a very Grandma answer.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Where you in a high trust society that wouldn't be
considered strange at all. Honestly, I think in Warsaw, the
you know, the Babushka would be expected to watch the
kids of some neighbor. But you know, in America, we
are not a high trust society the way we should be.
I mean, and by the way, I understand why we're not,
because there's a lot of bad people out there and
we have a crime and a lot of violent crime.
(13:03):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
So what, Virginia, I think you're raising a really interesting question,
which is who called the police?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Because was it.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Another parent in the playground area of the McDonald's or
was it a McDonald's employee? And I bet you also
kind of have the reaction that I do. Ten and
six year old very different than the one year old.
That one year old. I mean, it's hard to take
control and parent a one year old for grown adults.
Sometimes we don't know if the kid was crying, we
(13:31):
don't know if the kid was may need a diaper change,
how long were they There's so many details that to
me need to be determined before you can figure out everything.
Thank you for that call. Michelle in Cincinnati, what do
you think.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Hi, thank you for taking my call. You guys are
awesome and buck Early congratulations on your impending arrival to
the family. So as a mom, I just wanted to,
I guess really talk about, you know the fact that
this is a twenty four year old young man, and
twenty four, although considered an adult, their prefrontal cortex is
(14:12):
still not fully developed. And so this is to me,
it's just a no matter the best of intentions, and
this young man wanted a job and that's all fantastic
and wonderful to support his family. But like we've said,
there are creepy crawlers out there. You never know what
might happen. It could have happened in the first ten
(14:33):
minutes after he left. Or you have a ten and
a six year old trying to tend to their one
year old sibling. What if that baby was just eating
solid and the six year old thought, oh, he could
take this little piece of chicken nugget, and the baby
chokes on that and say.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I'll tell you southn Michelle, one of the uh, sorry
I started to jump in, but just you know, I've
actually had Carrie hired for me a like a like
a baby care training expert. And one of the things
we did was, you know, practice on a little doll
baby CPR and baby basically choking, you know, baby Heimlich.
And I asked, this woman who goes all over training people,
(15:10):
I said, I was just wondering, how often do you
have parents that call you and say, oh my gosh,
you know, I was able to get the blockage out
of my baby. She says all the time. She says
all the time, she says many times a year, every year.
So I mean, that was sobering.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yeah, and it's so scary, and and it's it's scary
enough if it's your own child, and my god, you
have to do a CPR, you know, on your own kids.
But what if there's other parents there and they don't
like they're looking around, where's this parent? Oh my god,
this child, you know, in severe trauma? What can I do?
What should I do? So I guess I just wanted
(15:47):
to say, best of intentions, that's all great. Ten and
six year olds to me as a parent are still
too young.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 1 (16:58):
Welcome back in your clan. Buck. All right, day is today,
and we should talk about what that means and get
into some of that. And so here we are looking
at some of the big tariffs going into effect. President
Trump stalwart on this, I mean, just not backing down
(17:19):
at all. Economist Stephen Moore, very smart guy, very pro
Trump economist. Here he is explaining the basic theory around
this play nine.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
I think that what we're going to hear is a
lot about this idea of reciprocal terrorists. If Trump's policies
work out here, I do believe that the end of
the day that there will be a lowering of terroifts
around the world. Our terrorists are about three or four
or five percent, and many other countries are above twenty percent,
and so that's just something we can't live with. And
(17:50):
at the end of the day, this could be a
liberation from those high terriffs that these other countries are
charging American made whether it's cars, or whether it's our
manufacturer items, or whether it's technology. It simply isn't the
fair trading system right now?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Not a fair trading system. Clay Out. I think that
that's very important to factor into this conversation because the
free trade mantra is something that we hear all the time,
and I never hear from the people that believe very
much in it, and I understand the economic theory, and
I understand the history that they that they and theoretically
(18:27):
it is correct, right, I mean, theoretically it should be
great for everybody. But when you're talking about reciprocal tariffs,
why should we just sit here and continue to have
our producers and manufacturers disadvantage by other markets in other
countries and do nothing about it. That's the I never
get an answer. They just say, oh, you know, tariffs,
you're bad, okay, but what do we do about this?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And I don't hear a very strong argument for why
reciprocal tariffs are don't make sense, right, I mean, basically
Trump is saying, hey, if everybody wants to have pure
free trade and there are no tariffs that are put
on any product, we would have no tariffs with you.
And basically this is what Israel has said. And I
(19:09):
don't know how much product Israel is sending back and forth.
I would imagine that they import more American goods than
we bring in. That's just because our country is so
much bigger than theirs. But you know, the real issue
that I think Trump has nailed is look at what
China did. China took advantage of Mexico's free trade agreement
(19:31):
to start to make Chinese goods in Mexico and then
get the United States products through Mexico in a way
that would not have been allowed through China. And so
I think what Trump has looked at is and I
don't think he blames China. In fact, I think he
respects good business decision when he sees them. But if
we're being taken advantage of, at a minimum, we should
(19:55):
have even fair trade competition where our products are treated
the same as theirs. And I suspect we'll see, because
again he's gonna announce this a little bit later today.
I suspect when it is fully announced that a lot
of countries are going to line up and not want
to get into a trade war with the United States
because most countries, virtually everywhere, they sell more goods to
(20:20):
us than we are selling to them, so they have
more to lose in a trade war than we do.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'd also add that we're gonna get to see at
some point here if this is right or wrong. I mean,
this is, you know, we'll see, let's see what the
results are. I think that Trump, given so much of
his record as a president as a politician. At this point,
I think that he has earned patience from well, I
(20:51):
would hope the whole country. But obviously some people hate
him because they're crazy. But even on the right, let's
see if he's right, because and I keep I keep
having this point. He is right about China, he was
on trade specifically, he was right about US, Mexico, Canada
needing to be updated. And the consensus was, oh no,
don't do that, don't mess with NAFTA. I don't know.
(21:11):
He was correct and the consensus, so to speak, was wrong.
Look Kelly Leffler, who's over at the Small Business Administration,
She's a very connected lady. Here she is saying that
this is going to be fantastic for small business. Play eight.
Speaker 10 (21:29):
This is an exciting day, liberation day. This is the
single greatest salvation for not just small businesses, but for America.
This country was traveling down an unsustainable path and President
Trump has been the only president that has had back.
Don't bone to stand up to our allies and adversaries
alike and say we have to level the playing field.
This is unfair. You're no longer going to take advantage
(21:50):
of us. And man, I would not bet against America
right now, because what's happening is you see investment coming in.
You see four trillion dollars in investment already insident Trump's
first two months, you see trading partners coming to the
table wanting to renegotiate. This is what it's about. It's
about restoring fairness and opportunity to this nation.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Look, I think the question will be determined to a
large extent on what does he say at four o'clock Eastern.
Usually the stock market has already priced in what the
likely outcome of something is. And I think that's why
you're seeing the stock market up a little bit today,
is there is fear that there could be a slow
(22:32):
down overall in economic growth because there's an increased cost
associated with trade.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My point on it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I also think the challenge Trump has is a lot
of people don't understand this. They understand price of goods.
You know what the gas prices are, you know what
the price of eggs was, which they tried to turn
into a big story for the first part of the
Trump administration, and now those have collapsed. Really, the number
one goal to me of the Trump administer stuation should
(23:01):
be to get prices down and for economically right, We've
already got the border taken care of, we want to
put violent criminals behind bars, all those things. But the
average thing that people understand is what is the cost
of goods? And then obviously the other part of this
is your overall salary needs to be increasing faster than
the cost of goods, or else you feel like you
(23:23):
are getting a backdoor a tax increase because you don't
have as much money in your pocket. People understand that,
and so I hope that what we're going to see
is less dislocation while also putting the American economy and
the American worker on a sound footing for years to come.
And Buck I mentioned this yesterday. Back in I think
(23:45):
it was like June of twenty twenty sixteen, might have been. Actually,
I think it was like maybe May. My father in
law was the first person that said this that I remember.
He was the diehard Trump and we were out to
dinner in Detroit and he said, oh, I'm going to
be voting for Trump. And I said, well, what is
(24:07):
it that matters the most to you about Trump? And
he said, he's one hundred percent right. We have to
get back to manufacturing things in this country we have
to have. Now he's from the Detroit area. A lot
of you are listening in Michigan. You understand the economic
engine that the factory worker provided for so many people
in so many parts of the country. But his perspective
(24:28):
on it was China's taken us to the woodshed here
because we don't make things anymore. And I think with
the dislocation that we saw from COVID where suddenly you
weren't able to bring in products from offshore as easily,
and certainly with what happened with Russia, buck the question
I've asked on this show for years, what would we
(24:49):
do if China actually invaded Taiwan? It was relatively easy
in the larger geopolitical economic environment to try to cut
Russia off. Suddenly McDonald's in Russia doesn't exist. Suddenly Budweiser
is hard to find the American business. I know, there
are exceptions, some people lost substantial amounts of money. We
(25:10):
I mean, I think we were almost we were largely
unsuccessful in cutting right well off. It didn't stop them,
it didn't slow them, and they've got a lot of
oil so they don't really care. But we thought we
could have an economic impact on Russia now the interest
rates are up there like there are a lot of
different moving parts there. But we couldn't do that to China.
(25:30):
We couldn't if China invaded Taiwan. The entire global economy
would collapse if we said, China, we're cutting you off.
We don't have the ability to do that. And I
think what it matters even more now it's harder to
be a force for world lack of a better way, goodness,
(25:53):
for world equality, for world human rights when China has
America by the UH, by the balls.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'll just say it.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
When it comes to being able to produce many goods
that we have to have, we can't allow that to
be along.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's they concern. There's the concerns about manufacturing the stuff
that we get from from China and now actually places
like Vietnam UH and others in Southeast Asia, UH, from
Amazon and these companies. Right, there's this, there's all the
stuff that we buy. There's also the concerns about manufacturing
power UH and resource allocation at a at a true
(26:34):
national scale. When the Wars of the future. We were
talking about this play over dinner last night where we
actually had stakes from our friends a Good Ranchers. They
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We we devoured them. But the uh, the future of
(26:55):
warfare is really going to be technology and and robotics
and manufacturing, meaning drones in the sky, meaning you know, who,
look at what's look at what's happened in Russia Ukraine.
Yes there's manpower, which is a part of this, but
it's really it's a war of attrition with drones, artillery
(27:16):
shells and who can keep enough in the field to
not lose ground. It is as much a manufacturing battle.
The economy of war is being shown to everybody, the
wars of the future being shown to everybody on that
front in Russia Ukraine. And you know, there are concerns
that we couldn't continue to supply Ukraine even if we
(27:37):
wanted to at the current pace. Think about that, and
that's that's a pretty limited conflict relative to what's happened
in the last hundred years globally, right, So you know
we need to take this stuff. And this is also
I bring it up because there's domestic manufacturing as it
pertains to jobs, and there's also we need the domestic
industry to be able to support a defense complex here
(28:02):
that is increasingly about materiel and technology and precision guided
everything and AI. And you know, as much as we're
always gonna need skilled, brave people with firearms to kick
in the door of the bad guy, you're gonna have
a lot of AI enabled warfare in the future. And
(28:24):
I don't mean twenty years, I mean pretty much it's
starting now.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, And again, I don't know how we would be
able to respond. I think Trump's on this Liberation Day.
We will see what happens here in a little over
an hour scheduled at the White House for Eastern A
lot of you still want to weigh in, by the way,
on the AUGUSTA question. The gentleman, the dad who was
arrested for leaving his kids at McDonald's, will have a
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Buck. Tomorrow, you will.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Be solow as I am continuing to be the worst
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Speaker 1 (31:39):
I will be there tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I cannot wait, so I'll be out, then I'll be
back Friday, and then next week you're going to become
a dad.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
A lot of ti I'm gonna go out for a
while starting late next week, assuming everything happens according to
schedule here, which some of you feel the need to
remind me, like, hey, Buck, it might happen earlier. Yes,
oh trust me, I know we've got the go bags
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about the little man who was coming into this world
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So that's very cool. I'm just gonna feel like kind
of a hard turn, but I don't really think of
it as a hard turn because it's a life well
lived and a great body of work left behind. But
Val Kilmer, yeah, passed away today, and you know, I
think that it's just take a moment here. I think
that even though he was a very successful actor, I
(32:28):
put him in the somewhat underrated category because I think
he had some incredible performances. And producer Greg I got
to give you credit. I think you hit on heat Tombstone,
and a lot of people would what was the other
one on top of guy? Yeah? Yeah, those are my
(32:48):
three favorite Val Kilmer movies. Also, I think his three
best performances. Although people say he became Jim Morrison in
the Doors movie. Have you seen that? I actually haven't
seen it. Yeah, I'm not a door don't yell at me.
I didn't know the organ the organ. I'm not a
doors person, so I didn't see that movie. I think
the organ thing is cheesy and it annoys me after
two seconds. But people said he was amazing in that movie,
(33:11):
and I think he passed way a long fight with cancer.
He made his way into the last top gun.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
For those of you, I mean, I'm sure most of
you saw the most recent Top Gun movie. But you
could see how debilitated he was even in that role.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That was real. Yeah, it wasn't like he was just
pretending to have the issues that he did. He actually
was battling cancer. And Tom Cruise asked him. And you know,
I think that that's part of what that's a by
far the standout emotional scene in that movie because it's
there's all the nostalgia of a Iceman and Maverick. But
also I think, you know, he recognized like he's at
a point in his life where that might be the
(33:47):
last major appearance, you know, and it was. I think
it was. And and so anyway, you know, I don't
know if he was a nice guy or not. You know,
I wish him and his family, you know, you know,
prayers blessings to them. But I do know he was
a great and I think I think Tombstone is a
great rewatchable. I think I've seen Tombstone dozens of times,
(34:09):
and his depiction of Doc Holliday is iconic, kind of
the way that Heath Ledger's Joker is iconic to me,
Like it's a great role that he played. No, you
should go back and watch.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I think Tombstone is so well done and probably flew
under the radar at the time that it happened. I
don't remember it being like a colossal blockbuster. When did
that come out, like nineteen ninety two or something like that.
Ninety four would be my guest somewhere in that vicinity.
That performance was unbelievable and to your point, I mean,
you know, I think you can tie it in a
little bit the Top Gun remake. The nostalgia factor for
(34:44):
that so well done, and I'm glad that he got
to appear in that role as an admiral in that film,
which made it was.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
The most memorable part of that movie for me. Beyond
it was it was fantastic Averick and Ice movie.
Welcome in third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now and just letting you know where we're going here.
We're going to talk about Liberation Day as Trump is
calling it in just a moment, Tariffs, what's going on
in a sense remaking and molding of the American economy
as it pertains to trade, which obviously affects the economy overall.
(00:24):
We will dive into that momentarily, but first off, remember
last hour, we're talking about this the basics of the case.
A father, African American, twenty four years old, Augusta, Georgia,
ten year old, six year old, one year old, he's
going for an interview. He leaves his kids in McDonald's
playground attached to McDonald's restaurant. Comes back, he's arrested and
(00:46):
a lot of people are going back and forth on this.
We weren't there, We don't have all the details, but
wanted to hear from you. This is interesting with it,
and we got a lot of calls, a lot of
vip emails. So funny, Clay, we talk about, like how
do we end the war with Ukraine? And like we
get some calls we talk about how old can you be?
And as a parent or how old can your kid
be as a parent and you let them in public
and people are fired up, so a lot of lines
(01:08):
lit and a lot of VIPs and otherwise, let's take Roman,
he's a cop in Boston, wants to weigh it on
how this factors in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thanks Roman, Hey, good afternoon, guys. How you doing good?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Good, Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay in Massachusetts. And I've been a crop for twenty
nine years in the city in the Greater Boston area
in Massachusetts. The child's abandon abandonment laws don't do not
specifically state an age. That's done on a case by
case basis, and it's up to the discretion of the officer.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think where this kid got.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
In trouble was with the one year old, because ten
and a six year old, you know what I mean,
people see a one year old with them for you know,
with the ten of to other younger kids, you know,
for a prolonged period of time to start thinking. And
if the cops arrived personally, would I have arrested the guy?
(02:07):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It depends he.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Was going for a job, if he was a hard worker.
I'd have to see the condition of the children. What
do you look like? If they were clean, if they
were well kept. But that's that's all discretionary. I didn't see.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
That's what I By the way, Roman, that's what I
figured it would be stick because I've never heard of
a hard line number in terms of the age. So
it's it's exactly what you're bringing because obviously you do this,
it's a whole range of factors.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, indeed, indeed you get to take in every single
little thing, even the appearance of the kids. Are they clean,
do they look malnourished? You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Also, Roman, what time was this? Because most ten and
six year old should be in school, So I'm presuming
that this was, you know, four o'clock in the afternoon
or something as opposed to ten am, because that would factory.
But I think Roman, for you, do you have kids?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well? I do, Yeah, So.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
The one year old, I think for most dads and
moms out there is the that's tough, right, the ten
and six year old at a play area. I can
understand how you leave them for twenty or twenty five
minutes if you absolutely positively were so desperate that you
had to do something else, but that's why I want
more details. Thanks for bringing the law enforcement perspective to it, Roman,
(03:22):
and thank you for listening. Taylor in Utah wants to
weigh in on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
What's going on? Taylor?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Heany playing?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Buck? How are you guys?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
We're good? Ask you? Are you listening in Salt Lake?
Where are you?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, We're I'm close to salt Lake. Just another freedom,
love and patriot where we love to shoot our guns
and pans here in Utah.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Fantastic. Well, you know we're number one anywhere close to
Salt Lake, so that makes us very happy. Thank you
for listening. What's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I had an incident similar to this about four or
five years ago. My son my wife had to run
to the store real quick, and it was I had
to work on a Saturday, and she called and asked
whether or not to leave him at home.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I said, yeah, he's going to be fine.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know you're going to be five minutes down the road.
I'm twenty minutes down the road working.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Her disgruntled aunt called the cops on us because we
left him at home. He was five a month away
from turning six and the cops showed up. It was
a big to do and it took me a while
to clean up my tools and get to the house.
And the cops were, Yeah, obviously didn't understand the law.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
We've got a law here in Jutah.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
The helicopter parenting law, where it's the parent's discretion at
which agent you can leave your child at home alone.
So I got pretty hot and heavy with officers because
they didn't understand the law.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They were threatening to arrent me. I got pretty loud,
and he.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Was like, well, sir, now I'm going to wrest you
for disorderly contact. I'm like, sir, I'm in my own home.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I said, it's my discretion that I can.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Leave my five year old at home alone. I can
send my five year old, you know, down to the
bus stop on his own. It's my determination the parents
at what age that I can leave my kids at
home alone, you know. And he had he had the
election that he could have called us from. We told
the neighbors that we were going to be gone for
just a bit, and uh so, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's completely and so you knew the law, and yeah,
I I uh interesting that that's that. The cops and
you had that kind of an exchange. Thank you for
calling in, Uh, Clay, you got something on this. Oh yeah,
I mean I just think so much of this. Every
parent is going to say the difference between how kids
were treated in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties in terms
(05:34):
of the freedom of movement versus today. I think that
his reference of the helicopter parenting, there's a lot of
parents out there that are hyper hyper vigilant in a
way that they were not when we were kind of
seeing parents that have the kids and I'm not if
you do this, this is your joy, but have ever
seen the parents have the kids that are on like
(05:55):
the least sho oh yeah, yeah, like they the kids
are running around and they're like the little harness but
you know, they look like they're going splunking or something.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, you mean it's great. I do think again, we
were talking a little bit. You went to New York City.
I grew up in the Nashville area. I would get
on the bus and every parent, every kid's different fifth grade,
ride home, empty house. Both my parents worked, walk home
from the bus stop, go into the house and unlock
the door and then sit and usually watch like television
(06:26):
until my family got home. My grandfather on one side
who passed away, you know, a while ago, but you know,
World War two veteran Greatest generation guy, one of those guys.
He I think he told me that he would drive
the truck. His family had like a place, you know,
in upstate New York and they had land, and he
would said he'd drive the truck at like ten or
(06:47):
eleven years old.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I mean, I was just like, he's like, there's there
were no cars. He's like, no, no, this was the
nineteen I don't know, nineteen thirties, yeah, nineteen thirties.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But when I just came back from Israel, I was
stunned by how many young kids they walk everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They said that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
One of the women at the IFCJ said her fourteen
year old daughter hitch Heights, Clinton. It's very common, she said.
And it's interesting, like cultures are different.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
These are high trust society. What we get to and
when you see you know, if a I'm telling you
if if a six year old kid is walking around
the streets by himself in Helsinki, versus a six year
old kid walking around the streets by himself, God forbid
in you know, uh Kuliya Khan, Mexico. It's just, you know,
(07:35):
the risk factors, It's just reality. The risk factors of
safety are incredibly different. And it's a shame that America
isn't a country where, you know, you have to be
vigilant about I mean, we shouldn't have to be so
vigilant about protecting our kids from you know, I'm not
talking about like electrical sockets and falling down. I mean
like predators and and you know, bad people kidnappers. All right,
(07:58):
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Speaker 6 (09:14):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We'll finish up these calls, and we got other topics
we wanted to hit. We got Bob in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Bob, go ahead, Hey guys first of all, to an
honor to speak to two patriots. I'm calling from Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Thank you. We're honored to speak to you, and thank
you for holding for us. We appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Thank you, sir, Thank you, Sir. I spent twenty years
investigating child welfare cases from seventy nine to ninety nine,
and I saw everything from A to Z, and any
conceivable factor can happen. I saw the worst thing possibly happen.
So the thing about the gentleman who is twenty four
(09:51):
being arrested, here's the way. There's no way to dance
around this. Nothing. The authorities or the police have to
be someone to something like that. The whole idea is
everything needs to be checked out. If the children are
held in custody, and if something doesn't jive real quick,
then that could That could be very brief. It could
(10:12):
be a day, It could be longer than that. But
you can't let something like this slide because the worst
possible scenario can and will and has happened in these situations.
Believe the guys I've seen it is that does this
gentleman belong in jail at that point? It depends on
what happened and during the investigation, if you know, if
(10:33):
there was contraband, if the guy was sure he was
at a job interview. I get that, but it depends
on the demeanor of the guy, what he did, how
he cooperated, who knows, We don't know. These are all variables.
But the bottom line, my bottom line in this, we've
got to protect the children.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No doubt, absolute, absolutely, thank you for Look, we got
all this law enforcement expertise in this audience. We appreciate
you calling in and filling us in on this. Like
the officer in Boston said, there's no law in Boston.
It's really about the age specifically you can be left alone,
but it's about the totality of everything going on. You know,
is there which which makes sense?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But VIP listener Debbie says, in Illinois, see this is
where you realize states have these things called laws that
are up to the states. And you know, we all
often think so much about federal law, but state laws
are are you very important And Illinois you have to
be fourteen before you can legally be left alone. So
I would have thought, though I would have thought thirteen,
was that it's fourteen in Illinois. According to VIP listener, Debbie.
(11:30):
So different states have different statutes on this. By the way,
a little bit of an update.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I got an email they're gonna send more details about this.
We're in on an AUGUSTA. I think there may be
some more details that add flavor to this story. So
just FYI just may get that even before the show,
is that this guy's now guy. He's got to go
fund me Antonio Brown the very famous football player wide
(11:55):
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Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, among other teams, my beloved Steelers.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It is a story that I think a lot of
people react to in a positive way. And again, I
just want to know all the further circumstances. But we
got a lot of different police officers who've waited in
How about Grandma's Virginia in Middletown, Rhode Island. How do
you react to this story, Virginia.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Oh, I think there's something you haven't talked about. The
person who called the police could have taken another tax
and could have stayed with the children and kept an
eye on them and waited for the father to come
back to make sure everything was okay.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
So that is a very by the way, sorry to
cut you off, but that is a very Grandma answer.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Where you in a high trust society that wouldn't be
considered strange at all. Honestly, I think in Warsaw, the
you know, the Babushka would be expected to watch the
kids of some neighbor. But you know, in America, we
are not a high trust society the way we should be.
I mean, and by the way, I understand why we're not,
because there's a lot of bad people out there and
we have a crime and a lot of violent crime.
(13:03):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
So what, Virginia, I think you're raising a really interesting question,
which is who called the police?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Because was it.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Another parent in the playground area of the McDonald's or
was it a McDonald's employee? And I bet you also
kind of have the reaction that I do. Ten and
six year old very different than the one year old.
That one year old. I mean, it's hard to take
control and parent a one year old for grown adults.
Sometimes we don't know if the kid was crying, we
(13:31):
don't know if the kid was may need a diaper change,
how long were they There's so many details that to
me need to be determined before you can figure out everything.
Thank you for that call. Michelle in Cincinnati, what do
you think.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Hi, thank you for taking my call. You guys are
awesome and buck Early congratulations on your impending arrival to
the family. So as a mom, I just wanted to,
I guess really talk about, you know the fact that
this is a twenty four year old young man, and
twenty four, although considered an adult, their prefrontal cortex is
(14:12):
still not fully developed. And so this is to me,
it's just a no matter the best of intentions, and
this young man wanted a job and that's all fantastic
and wonderful to support his family. But like we've said,
there are creepy crawlers out there. You never know what
might happen. It could have happened in the first ten
(14:33):
minutes after he left. Or you have a ten and
a six year old trying to tend to their one
year old sibling. What if that baby was just eating
solid and the six year old thought, oh, he could
take this little piece of chicken nugget, and the baby
chokes on that and say.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I'll tell you southn Michelle, one of the uh, sorry
I started to jump in, but just you know, I've
actually had Carrie hired for me a like a like
a baby care training expert. And one of the things
we did was, you know, practice on a little doll
baby CPR and baby basically choking, you know, baby Heimlich.
And I asked, this woman who goes all over training people,
(15:10):
I said, I was just wondering, how often do you
have parents that call you and say, oh my gosh,
you know, I was able to get the blockage out
of my baby. She says all the time. She says
all the time, she says many times a year, every year.
So I mean, that was sobering.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yeah, and it's so scary, and and it's it's scary
enough if it's your own child, and my god, you
have to do a CPR, you know, on your own kids.
But what if there's other parents there and they don't
like they're looking around, where's this parent? Oh my god,
this child, you know, in severe trauma? What can I do?
What should I do? So I guess I just wanted
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Speaker 1 (16:58):
Welcome back in your clan. Buck. All right, day is today,
and we should talk about what that means and get
into some of that. And so here we are looking
at some of the big tariffs going into effect. President
Trump stalwart on this, I mean, just not backing down
(17:19):
at all. Economist Stephen Moore, very smart guy, very pro
Trump economist. Here he is explaining the basic theory around
this play nine.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
I think that what we're going to hear is a
lot about this idea of reciprocal terrorists. If Trump's policies
work out here, I do believe that the end of
the day that there will be a lowering of terroifts
around the world. Our terrorists are about three or four
or five percent, and many other countries are above twenty percent,
and so that's just something we can't live with. And
(17:50):
at the end of the day, this could be a
liberation from those high terriffs that these other countries are
charging American made whether it's cars, or whether it's our
manufacturer items, or whether it's technology. It simply isn't the
fair trading system right now?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Not a fair trading system. Clay Out. I think that
that's very important to factor into this conversation because the
free trade mantra is something that we hear all the time,
and I never hear from the people that believe very
much in it, and I understand the economic theory, and
I understand the history that they that they and theoretically
(18:27):
it is correct, right, I mean, theoretically it should be
great for everybody. But when you're talking about reciprocal tariffs,
why should we just sit here and continue to have
our producers and manufacturers disadvantage by other markets in other
countries and do nothing about it. That's the I never
get an answer. They just say, oh, you know, tariffs,
you're bad, okay, but what do we do about this?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
And I don't hear a very strong argument for why
reciprocal tariffs are don't make sense, right, I mean, basically
Trump is saying, hey, if everybody wants to have pure
free trade and there are no tariffs that are put
on any product, we would have no tariffs with you.
And basically this is what Israel has said. And I
(19:09):
don't know how much product Israel is sending back and forth.
I would imagine that they import more American goods than
we bring in. That's just because our country is so
much bigger than theirs. But you know, the real issue
that I think Trump has nailed is look at what
China did. China took advantage of Mexico's free trade agreement
(19:31):
to start to make Chinese goods in Mexico and then
get the United States products through Mexico in a way
that would not have been allowed through China. And so
I think what Trump has looked at is and I
don't think he blames China. In fact, I think he
respects good business decision when he sees them. But if
we're being taken advantage of, at a minimum, we should
(19:55):
have even fair trade competition where our products are treated
the same as theirs. And I suspect we'll see, because
again he's gonna announce this a little bit later today.
I suspect when it is fully announced that a lot
of countries are going to line up and not want
to get into a trade war with the United States
because most countries, virtually everywhere, they sell more goods to
(20:20):
us than we are selling to them, so they have
more to lose in a trade war than we do.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'd also add that we're gonna get to see at
some point here if this is right or wrong. I mean,
this is, you know, we'll see, let's see what the
results are. I think that Trump, given so much of
his record as a president as a politician. At this point,
I think that he has earned patience from well, I
(20:51):
would hope the whole country. But obviously some people hate
him because they're crazy. But even on the right, let's
see if he's right, because and I keep I keep
having this point. He is right about China, he was
on trade specifically, he was right about US, Mexico, Canada
needing to be updated. And the consensus was, oh no,
don't do that, don't mess with NAFTA. I don't know.
(21:11):
He was correct and the consensus, so to speak, was wrong.
Look Kelly Leffler, who's over at the Small Business Administration,
She's a very connected lady. Here she is saying that
this is going to be fantastic for small business. Play eight.
Speaker 10 (21:29):
This is an exciting day, liberation day. This is the
single greatest salvation for not just small businesses, but for America.
This country was traveling down an unsustainable path and President
Trump has been the only president that has had back.
Don't bone to stand up to our allies and adversaries
alike and say we have to level the playing field.
This is unfair. You're no longer going to take advantage
(21:50):
of us. And man, I would not bet against America
right now, because what's happening is you see investment coming in.
You see four trillion dollars in investment already insident Trump's
first two months, you see trading partners coming to the
table wanting to renegotiate. This is what it's about. It's
about restoring fairness and opportunity to this nation.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Look, I think the question will be determined to a
large extent on what does he say at four o'clock Eastern.
Usually the stock market has already priced in what the
likely outcome of something is. And I think that's why
you're seeing the stock market up a little bit today,
is there is fear that there could be a slow
(22:32):
down overall in economic growth because there's an increased cost
associated with trade.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
My point on it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I also think the challenge Trump has is a lot
of people don't understand this. They understand price of goods.
You know what the gas prices are, you know what
the price of eggs was, which they tried to turn
into a big story for the first part of the
Trump administration, and now those have collapsed. Really, the number
one goal to me of the Trump administer stuation should
(23:01):
be to get prices down and for economically right, We've
already got the border taken care of, we want to
put violent criminals behind bars, all those things. But the
average thing that people understand is what is the cost
of goods? And then obviously the other part of this
is your overall salary needs to be increasing faster than
the cost of goods, or else you feel like you
(23:23):
are getting a backdoor a tax increase because you don't
have as much money in your pocket. People understand that,
and so I hope that what we're going to see
is less dislocation while also putting the American economy and
the American worker on a sound footing for years to come.
And Buck I mentioned this yesterday. Back in I think
(23:45):
it was like June of twenty twenty sixteen, might have been. Actually,
I think it was like maybe May. My father in
law was the first person that said this that I remember.
He was the diehard Trump and we were out to
dinner in Detroit and he said, oh, I'm going to
be voting for Trump. And I said, well, what is
(24:07):
it that matters the most to you about Trump? And
he said, he's one hundred percent right. We have to
get back to manufacturing things in this country we have
to have. Now he's from the Detroit area. A lot
of you are listening in Michigan. You understand the economic
engine that the factory worker provided for so many people
in so many parts of the country. But his perspective
(24:28):
on it was China's taken us to the woodshed here
because we don't make things anymore. And I think with
the dislocation that we saw from COVID where suddenly you
weren't able to bring in products from offshore as easily,
and certainly with what happened with Russia, buck the question
I've asked on this show for years, what would we
(24:49):
do if China actually invaded Taiwan? It was relatively easy
in the larger geopolitical economic environment to try to cut
Russia off. Suddenly McDonald's in Russia doesn't exist. Suddenly Budweiser
is hard to find the American business. I know, there
are exceptions, some people lost substantial amounts of money. We
(25:10):
I mean, I think we were almost we were largely
unsuccessful in cutting right well off. It didn't stop them,
it didn't slow them, and they've got a lot of
oil so they don't really care. But we thought we
could have an economic impact on Russia now the interest
rates are up there like there are a lot of
different moving parts there. But we couldn't do that to China.
(25:30):
We couldn't if China invaded Taiwan. The entire global economy
would collapse if we said, China, we're cutting you off.
We don't have the ability to do that. And I
think what it matters even more now it's harder to
be a force for world lack of a better way, goodness,
(25:53):
for world equality, for world human rights when China has
America by the UH, by the balls.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'll just say it.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
When it comes to being able to produce many goods
that we have to have, we can't allow that to
be along.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's they concern. There's the concerns about manufacturing the stuff
that we get from from China and now actually places
like Vietnam UH and others in Southeast Asia, UH, from
Amazon and these companies. Right, there's this, there's all the
stuff that we buy. There's also the concerns about manufacturing
power UH and resource allocation at a at a true
(26:34):
national scale. When the Wars of the future. We were
talking about this play over dinner last night where we
actually had stakes from our friends a Good Ranchers. They
were fabulous stakes. Thank you for those guys. I don't
even have a read from today, but we just wanted
to say the stakes from from Good Ranchers were absolutely delicious.
We we devoured them. But the uh, the future of
(26:55):
warfare is really going to be technology and and robotics
and manufacturing, meaning drones in the sky, meaning you know, who,
look at what's look at what's happened in Russia Ukraine.
Yes there's manpower, which is a part of this, but
it's really it's a war of attrition with drones, artillery
(27:16):
shells and who can keep enough in the field to
not lose ground. It is as much a manufacturing battle.
The economy of war is being shown to everybody, the
wars of the future being shown to everybody on that
front in Russia Ukraine. And you know, there are concerns
that we couldn't continue to supply Ukraine even if we
(27:37):
wanted to at the current pace. Think about that, and
that's that's a pretty limited conflict relative to what's happened
in the last hundred years globally, right, So you know
we need to take this stuff. And this is also
I bring it up because there's domestic manufacturing as it
pertains to jobs, and there's also we need the domestic
industry to be able to support a defense complex here
(28:02):
that is increasingly about materiel and technology and precision guided
everything and AI. And you know, as much as we're
always gonna need skilled, brave people with firearms to kick
in the door of the bad guy, you're gonna have
a lot of AI enabled warfare in the future. And
(28:24):
I don't mean twenty years, I mean pretty much it's
starting now.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah, And again, I don't know how we would be
able to respond. I think Trump's on this Liberation Day.
We will see what happens here in a little over
an hour scheduled at the White House for Eastern A
lot of you still want to weigh in, by the way,
on the AUGUSTA question. The gentleman, the dad who was
arrested for leaving his kids at McDonald's, will have a
(28:49):
few more of those as well for you, and we'll
close up shop here in just sect buck which you
cut for us.
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Speaker 1 (31:21):
Buck. Tomorrow, you will.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Be solow as I am continuing to be the worst
golfer attending golf related events. I'm getting to play Draw,
which is Trump's course in South Florida. The live event
is going to be there. I'm playing with a professional golfer,
maybe Bryson Deshambeau, who's a big Trump supporter.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I will be there tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I cannot wait, so I'll be out, then I'll be
back Friday, and then next week you're going to become
a dad.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
A lot of ti I'm gonna go out for a
while starting late next week, assuming everything happens according to
schedule here, which some of you feel the need to
remind me, like, hey, Buck, it might happen earlier. Yes,
oh trust me, I know we've got the go bags
ready to go here. But yeah, we're super excited about
about the little man who was coming into this world
here soon. I couldn't be more thrilled to be a dad,
(32:07):
So that's very cool. I'm just gonna feel like kind
of a hard turn, but I don't really think of
it as a hard turn because it's a life well
lived and a great body of work left behind. But
Val Kilmer, yeah, passed away today, and you know, I
think that it's just take a moment here. I think
that even though he was a very successful actor, I
(32:28):
put him in the somewhat underrated category because I think
he had some incredible performances. And producer Greg I got
to give you credit. I think you hit on heat Tombstone,
and a lot of people would what was the other
one on top of guy? Yeah? Yeah, those are my
(32:48):
three favorite Val Kilmer movies. Also, I think his three
best performances. Although people say he became Jim Morrison in
the Doors movie. Have you seen that? I actually haven't
seen it. Yeah, I'm not a door don't yell at me.
I didn't know the organ the organ. I'm not a
doors person, so I didn't see that movie. I think
the organ thing is cheesy and it annoys me after
two seconds. But people said he was amazing in that movie,
(33:11):
and I think he passed way a long fight with cancer.
He made his way into the last top gun.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
For those of you, I mean, I'm sure most of
you saw the most recent Top Gun movie. But you
could see how debilitated he was even in that role.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That was real. Yeah, it wasn't like he was just
pretending to have the issues that he did. He actually
was battling cancer. And Tom Cruise asked him. And you know,
I think that that's part of what that's a by
far the standout emotional scene in that movie because it's
there's all the nostalgia of a Iceman and Maverick. But
also I think, you know, he recognized like he's at
a point in his life where that might be the
(33:47):
last major appearance, you know, and it was. I think
it was. And and so anyway, you know, I don't
know if he was a nice guy or not. You know,
I wish him and his family, you know, you know,
prayers blessings to them. But I do know he was
a great and I think I think Tombstone is a
great rewatchable. I think I've seen Tombstone dozens of times,
(34:09):
and his depiction of Doc Holliday is iconic, kind of
the way that Heath Ledger's Joker is iconic to me,
Like it's a great role that he played. No, you
should go back and watch.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I think Tombstone is so well done and probably flew
under the radar at the time that it happened. I
don't remember it being like a colossal blockbuster. When did
that come out, like nineteen ninety two or something like that.
Ninety four would be my guest somewhere in that vicinity.
That performance was unbelievable and to your point, I mean,
you know, I think you can tie it in a
little bit the Top Gun remake. The nostalgia factor for
(34:44):
that so well done, and I'm glad that he got
to appear in that role as an admiral in that film,
which made it was.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
The most memorable part of that movie for me. Beyond
it was it was fantastic Averick and Ice movie.
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