September 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump is in better position, poll wise, than in 2016 or 2020. Flashback to Joe Scarborough in 2023 saying Kamala Harris was a bad VP. C&B preview the debate. CNN's Dana Bash says Dick Cheney's endorsement is worth more than RFK Jr. Lisa Boothe, host of "The Truth with Lisa Boothe" podcast on the C&B Podcast Network, gives us her impression of the campaign so far. Low-T men work at NPR.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The third hour, Clay in back kicks off. Now as
we know, we are a little over twenty four hours
away from debate night. If nothing else, I think it
is going to get a lot of eyeballs and attention
because it could well be the only debate in fact
right now, I would wager Clay could probably tell me
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what the actual if there are bets on this, that
it will be the only debate I don't think there
will be another one with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
I think that it is likely to be the case
that the Kamala campaign decides that this is it. It
is a one and done, and there are plenty of
reasons for Democrats I think going in this to be
(00:42):
very concerned. We started off the show talking about the
New York Times zone polling, which has Trump nationally ahead
by a point on Kamala Harris. The biggest, I think
single data point you can look at, or data points
for why there should be optimism, not over confidence, but
(01:03):
optimism about how this is going, would be that Trump
is in a better position now September ninth than he
was in the on the same day or the same
week perhaps in twenty twenty, and the same day, same
week in twenty sixteen. Now we know he won in
twenty sixteen, he lost by a very small margin in
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twenty twenty, and so now we see that Trump is
in a stronger position than he has been either time.
So that's right. If you were just doing better than
he did in twenty twenty, you would say, well, that's
that's encouraging. He's doing better than he was in twenty
sixteen when he won, right when he ended up being
the president afterwards. So that's important, I think Clay. Also,
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you've got the latest CBS battleground polling having effectively a
tie in all the states. I mean, it's in a
fifty forty nine, fifty forty nine, fifty to fifty. Pennsylvania's
fifty to fifty. North Carolina is forty nine forty nine,
Georgia Trump is up Wisconsin fifty one to forty nine.
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So they're all pretty much within the margin Everara, But
the fact of the matter is Trump always underperforms polling
in these states, not by you know, ten points, but
by a couple of points. He does better than they
think he will, than these same polsters have thought he will.
So it's not quite you know, pull the fire alarms
and run for the exits time for the Democrats with
(02:33):
Kamala Harris's campaign, but going into debate night, they are
in a tough spot and I think they're having to
recognize that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I think also, Buck, and I'm curious if you'd
agree with this, Kamala is a worst candidate than Hillary
in sixteen or Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Absolutely, no question. She's the worst candidate they've had in
She's the worst candidate they've had since John Kerry. And
I think she's a worst candidate than John Kerrey was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was gonna sell the worst since Dukecaccus potentially, which
is kind of wild to go all the way back
to eighty eight, just in terms of you know, he
was a Massachusetts Liberal. She's a California Liberal. But you
don't even have to take it from us our good
friend Joe Scarborough. I saw this in our cuts, Buck,
I wanted to play this. Are you so to hold
on a second, hold on it? Are you starting to
watch a little Morning Joe Clay? You starting to get
(03:19):
it on the action, don't? I do occasionally search Joe
Scarborough clips because I.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Think of anyone in media. I mean, I mean this honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I don't know that there is a bigger propagandist shill, yes,
of anyone in media. I mean this honestly, of anyone
in media on the left or the right that has
a daily show than Joe Scarborough. And the reason why
I would make that argument is he's on camera saying
the exact opposite of everything that he says within the
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last like year and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
A half, two the years. I think the guiding principle
of Morning Joe is that Joe and Mika will say
absolutely anything without any regard to what they have previously said,
what they really believe, or what a reasonable rational person
would think. They will say absolutely anything and they don't
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believe it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And here is Joe Scarborough talking about, Hey, Kamala Harris
is the worst and least popular vice president ever, Worse
than Dan Quail, worse than everybody else that you can
think of who hasn't been popular, Dick Cheney. And we
need to talk about Dick Cheney suddenly being her supporter
just in the last year before she was the nominated.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Right before That's what I want to see before she's
the nominee.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But I do think it's instructive if you're out there
and you're wondering, hey, can you trust the opinions of
the people that are out there spreading this stuff. I
just think it's important for us to keep sharing just
how diabolical they are. This is twenty twenty three, this
is last year. Scarborough says she's unpopular because she hasn't
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been a good VP, not because she's black, not because
she's a woman. Listened to cut six.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh, they're being so mean to Kamala Harris. They're racist.
She's a woman. They're scared of her because she's a
black woman. They hate black women. They're scared of Has.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Anybody ever heard it van Quell not black or a woman?
That guy got raked oller that calls unmercifully. Has anybody
ever heard of George Herbert Walker Bush?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That guy got destroyed? Why because he was a vice
frid you remember the wimp factor. I'm just tired of
hearing people's ow Kamala So it's because she's black and
she's a woman, and she's whatever and there frit No,
she's vice president.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We need to put that side by side with Carbaro
with Scarborough saying now that Kamala is the nominee. That
much of the discredit of Kamala Harris is directly connected
to her being black and a woman, which is what
he's arguing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now, This is what I mean. Joss Scarborough was a Joe.
He was the guy who said that that Joe Biden
was the sharpest he had ever been, not that he
was sharp enough to be president, which he clearly is not.
And I should note you notice Biden is not even
really the president in any meaningful day to day way.
And this has become very often. We don't have a president.
We basically have an empty chair with a bunch of
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advisors and department heads running everything, but there's no leadership
from this White House whatsoever because we don't actually have
an active president. And it just goes to show you
as well, though why not why not have Kamala ascends
because they couldn't push Joe. That was the concession they
were willing to make the him. He gets to finish
out his term even though he's got dementia. But Clay
(06:50):
I also thought this was really interesting. Bertie Sanders, who
I've had to say is maybe the only Senator who
is more left wing or as left wing is Kamala
Harris from her time in the Senate. You know, we
talked about this on Friday. She has It's so funny too.
It's not that she she isn't anything. Her advisors are
telling friendly media outlets, Oh that thing that you're gonna
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have to bring up because it's a horrible political you know,
blunder or horrible political vulnerability. You know, she wants to
ban fracking, she wants to give illegals Obamacare, she wants
to ban plastic straws, all those things that she's walked
away from. People are now having to ask, well, hold
on a second, So is Kamala Harris now a centrist
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even like republican leaning democrat? Like, what's going on? The
answers of course, No, she's just lying to everybody, And
Bernie Sanders this is cut eight, basically says, yeah, no,
don't worry, she's still a socialist. She's just trying to
fool people.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
She has previously supported medicare for all, now she does not.
She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
These Senator, are.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think think
that she is abandoning her progressive ideals.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I think she's trying to be pragmatic in doing what
she thinks is right in order to win the election.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Quiet part out loud. Oh No, she's still a comie.
She's just lying to people now because she thinks that
they're dumb enough to believe her. I mean that is
a translation of exactly Bernie Sanders sentiment right there.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And you know what's interesting, Buck, I mentioned yesterday was football.
NFL played all day college football all weekend, and I
couldn't get past this, and I sent a tweet out
about it. No matter how good or bad your coach
team performed, and no matter how good or bad your
quarterback did, I was struck as I was watching all
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of the reaction come in. We require every quarterback in
the NFL and every coach in the NFL to show
up for a postgame press conference and answer questions from
every member of the media about the decisions that he
just made, either as a player or as a coach,
immediately after the game's over. Kamala Harris hasn't done a
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press conference in fifty days. What does it say about
the status of our country that we hold football coaches
and quarterbacks to a higher standard of job availability for
media access than the person who's asking to be president
of the United States. It just crystallized for me over
(09:30):
the weekend how insane this is. Every quarterback, even if
he was a disaster, had to show up and answer
questions about what choices he had made and why he
had made them, and Kamala Harris hasn't had to do
it once.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, but this is also I mean to take your
analogy and run with it for a second, Clay, This
would be if the sports media all were rooting for
one team and they all wanted that one team's quarterback
to stay, and so they would allow him to not
actually give a conference and not say anything about it
because they're all in on it. Right. This isn't about
like just sports accountability versus political accountability. They know they're
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they know she's not being held accountable. The whole point
is they're they're the con right, they're in on this.
They are the collusion machinery here. I'm using that word
against Democrats, so it's not going to change anytime soon.
But really, the part of this that I would hope
is resonating. And again it's when I say hope it's resoning.
We're very big country, you know, three hundred and fifty
(10:29):
million people when you start to add in all the illegals,
and we're a very big country, and maybe three or
four hundred thousand people are going to be the whole
difference in this election. I'm hoping that those swing voters
feel or a picking off on what's really going on here,
which is the Kamala Harris campaign thinks that they are idiots.
What's it? The Kamala Harris campaign is is dripping with
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condescension for everyday people in the swing states who are
still figuring out who to vote for because they think
they can get away. The Kamala campaign and their media
allies with the most obvious lies, evasions, and scams, and
that's all that's going on here. So I hope that
there's revulsion against that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And remember to do one ninety minute debate tomorrow, and
there may only be one. They have holed her up
for five days in Pittsburgh to prepare, and she's only
going to talk for probably thirty six thirty seven minutes
total in that ninety minute debate because you're going to
have two commercial breaks. You got the moderators talking, you
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got Trump talking. She might only have to speak for
thirty five minutes, and they've spent five days preparing for this.
I think one thing that can happen is you over
prepare and come out not sounding normal. I almost would
prefer if I were running. I mean, you're on the
trail all the time. I feel like we prepare for
debates every day because we do three hours and we
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have to be ready to talk. I can't imagine preparing
five days to talk for thirty six minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, I also, I know it's preposterous, right, we finish
the show and then we go do extra shows after
we finish the show, just to correct, and then and
then we go do other things, and we know the
content never stops. I think Clay another point that I
would really hope that Donald Trump will make on that
debate stage one that I feel very strongly about. Well,
there's a lot of them, but he should absolutely push
(12:25):
her on you now say that you or rather your
surrogates are saying you want to build, you want to
build a wall. You're lying, I mean she's lying. She
does not want to build a wall. But the fact
that they've put that out there is just indicative of
how absurd this whole thing is. You know what I'm saying,
I want to get hammered.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think that's a really good point. And you can
already tell what she's going to respond, right, She's going
to say, well, we tried to put together the biggest
border security wall bill possible, and you got the Republicans
to not support it. What Trump needs to be prepared
for on that counter punch is your bill wasn't strong enough.
You've acknowledged that you're wrong, You've let in over ten
million illegals, and now you foundationally did not support a
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border wall, and you're now saying you're for it. You're
just a liar whose border security has failed. And the
timing also proves what a lie the whole thing is, too,
which has been obvious to anybody along, which is why
the Republicans in the Senate who played along with that
border biller are well, maybe they're just self interested, but
I think they're also pretty dumb. If they wanted to
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secure the border, they could have done in the first year.
Why do they wait till year four of Biden's presidency
to put this bill forward, which doesn't secure the border
at all. And also he should push her on deportations.
Do you want to build a wall? Okay, do you
commit to radically increasing will you triple? Will you quadruple
the number of deportations that you've had pre You know
the answer is not. She's just going to evade. I know,
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but I really hope Trump hammers. I mean, the ten
million illegals coming in, they can't hide it at least
at least and again I think you just have to hammer.
Don't go in what I would suggest, and we'll talk.
We'll give advice tomorrow. But my number one piece of
advice would be, don't follow Kamala Harris down the rabbit hole.
She's going to try to get you to chase her
and talk about the subjects that she wants to talk about.
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Reject her premise, go right back every time you can.
To their failures on economy, border crime, and buck. The
one thing that's certainly true about the border is Trump
knows this well. Biden didn't get the bill that he wanted.
He put in place executive orders, and the number of
people crossing the border illegally changed when they reversed the
initial executive orders that they put in place as soon
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as he came into office. He didn't need congressional authority
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Speaker 2 (16:20):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Dana Bash, the only
person to interview Kamala Harris and Tim Wall so far,
is an objective journal a ha ha ha sorry claims
to be an objective journalist, but she wanted all of
you to know that Dick Cheney saying that he's voting
for Kamala Harris it is more impactful than RFK Junior.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Listen, I hear you about endorsements. We don't really know
the impact that they have all the time. RFK Junior
hasn't been an elected office. Dick Cheney was Vice President
of the United States for eight years. He was a
senior member of the House. He was chief of staff
to Jerald for He worked tirelessly to advance Republican policies
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for a long time. You don't think his endorsement of
a Democrat with that kind of pedigree is going to
make a difference with I.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Really don't, okay, Buck, Is there a single person in
America who was not already voting for Kamala Harris that
saw Dick Cheney was and decided that they had to
vote for Kamala Harris too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't want to be mean. I think I think
more people wouldn't know if Dick Cheney's alive than actually
care about who he thinks you should vote for. It's
just true. I mean he's been I mean, I'll be
honest with you.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think he was so wrong on Iraq and so
wrong on much of his leadership. In my personal opinion,
him voting for Kamala Harris feels right to me, and
it actually makes me more convinced in my vote for
Donald Trump. Honestly, same thing, Mitt Romney. I mean, there
are a lot of guys out there that I think
have turned their backs on the fights of the day,
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And when I hear that they're on the Kamala Harris side,
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Lisa Booth is with
us now the one and only Box News political analyst.
Host of The Truth with Lisa Booth in the Clay
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of you are listening and want to hear her political insights.
Mss Lisa. Always great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
How are you doing, Hey, guys, I've missed you. It's
great to be on.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's it's been a little bit, so we appreciate
you making the time for especially in advance of this debate.
Let's start with this. We'll get into some of you
or what do you think about the debate in a moment? Okay,
what do you think about the campaign so far? Like,
how is Trump doing in twenty twenty four versus what
you can compare it to in twenty twenty although I
know that was a crazy year for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Well, I think the challenge is, I mean you can't
really compare them, right, I mean, think of what had
happened in such a just in the past couple of
months alone. I mean, we had an assassination attempt, against
Donald Trump, which the media try to sweep under the rug.
And obviously we're being lied to by the Secret Service
and the FBI about what exactly happened. And then you
had an entirely new Democrat ticket with Kamala Harris and
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then her selection of Tim Walls and Joe Biden stepping
out of the race via x even though somehow he's
still the president of the United States, which is confusing.
So I don't know if you can compare the two.
I mean, we've never really had a truncated, you know,
general election like this before, so I don't think you
can compare the two. I think he's trying to do
the best he can on quicksand with sort of this
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changing environment, and tomorrow night's debate is obviously very important
because of all that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Lisa, do you ever just get frustrated with women for
being idiots and.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
How they're voting?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Oh, every day, every day book, I mean, you know what,
It disturbs me, and it hurts my heart that so
many women in the country prioritize the ability to kill
an unborn child over being able to put food on
the table for their existing families or being safe in
the street. Or not having terrorists crossed, or southern borders.
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But unfortunately we've arrived at this point where Democrats have
made such a big issue out of reproductive freedom, when
it's not reproductive freedom, it's it's just the ability to
murder an unborn child, essentially what they're advocating for. So yeah,
it makes me sad. And you know, I hope that
we can try to continue to change hearts and minds
as a country, but it's disturbing to me.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So if you were now advising Trump, and I don't
want to overstate this, Lisa, but you know, this radio
show is kind of big. Some people say huge, and
there are some Trump people who listen to the show,
so this might make its way to Trump, although you
probably could just call them on your phone later. But
what would you advise as key points for Trump to
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focus on tomorrow? And I just want to remind her
release his work, not as you do political analysis on
Fox News. She's worked on campaigns in the past, stretching
back for many, many years. So what do you think.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Well, I will say this that Kamala Harris faces she's
losing men by a bigger margin than winning women in
some states like Pennsylvania, Nevada, and North Carolina. So there's
a lot of focus on the female though, but not
her problems with men. I mean, women do tend to
turn out more than men, so that is an issue.
I'm not going to downplay that. But for him for
the debates, Mark, I mean, look, we know what her
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strategy is going to be. We saw it against Mike Pence.
She's going to try to be inflammatory. She's going to
call him a fella, and she's going to call him
massage and as sexes, all these different things. And so
he just can't give her that SoundBite. And what he
needs to do. I mean, there was a CNN pool
recently that found the majority of Americans look back positively
on his agenda, that there is some Trump nostalgia with
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the way his administration used to be, and so he
needs to remind voters why that is the fact that
you know, real wages were up, the fact that we
weren't facing this kind of inflation, the southern border was
under control, that we had stability in peace throughout the
world and not the instability and chaos that we see now.
So he needs to remind voters of what his administration
stood for what we can have again as a country.
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And again she has said that her value haven't changed
and that CNN interview Bernie Sanders went on TV on
Meet the Press this weekend and said that she's a progressive,
she's just trying to moderate herself to win a general election.
So Donald Trump needs to remind Americans what those policy
positions are. The fact that she is to the left
of Bernie Sanders. They should be in a commune together
in Vermont, not her in the White House. You know,
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I mean, this is a woman, as we know, decriminalizing
southern borders or the southern border, Medicare for all. She
compared Ice to the KKK. She said she was the
last person in the room and the disastrous decision to
get out of Afghanistan. So in the manner in which
they did, so there's ample you know, there's ample opportunity
there for Donald Trump. But he just needs to stick
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to the case and not let her get under his
skin and just nail her to the cross and all
these policy positions.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We're talking to Lisa Booth, who's alma mater the University
of Tennessee absolutely obliterated NC State over the weekend in Charlotte,
North Carolina. That was a big win. I'm a big
Tennessee fan as well, Lisa. So if Trump wants to
beat Kamala like Tennessee beat NC State, Sorry NC State
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fans out there listening. Economy, border crime is huge. You
mentioned abortion and how many women are responding on that issue.
I think the thing that Trump needs to do, and
I'm curious how you would advise him if he were
listening to respond to this is say, look, Republicans have
a variety of perspectives on how to respond to abortion.
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It's a state related issue. What almost everybody voting for
Republican agrees is second and third trimester abortion is wrong
and it is murder. Would you advise that angle? And
to say, like to try to pivot and say what
the it used to be safe, legal, and rare was
what Democrats said. Now party orthodoxy is if you want
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to have an abortion in the ninth month, you can.
Americans overwhelmingly rejected what the Democrat orthodoxy is, whereas there's
lots of support for different Republican perspective. Is that the
right answer or how should he handle it? Because it
is going to come.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Up well and I think that's the right answer. I
mean he's kicked it over to the States. Obviously, that
happened with the overturning of Rover Swede. And you know,
also and to your point, I mean, the Democrats are
radical on this issue. Their positions are actually outside of
the norm of Americans. I mean, even look at Tim
Walls and what he did as governor of Minnesota there
and he removed protections for babies that were born alive
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after botched abortions. I mean, it doesn't get sicker than that.
And so you know, I agree that he should turn
that around. And then also you know, make the case
again like he really needs to stick on. As you mentioned,
you've got the economy, you've got the border, and you've
got wars across the world. He is the candidate that's
going to be bring peace and stability of the United States.
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He's the candidate that's going to be in prosperity and
more money in your wallet. He's the candidate that's going
to keep you safe for vent terris from crossing the
southern border. And also just the unfairness with some of
these Democrats and some of these cities wanting to you know,
give all this money to a legal immigrants, put them up,
give them, you know, a certain subsidized housing for them,
while Americans are maxing out their credit cards to put
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groceries on the table. So that's unfair for Americans, and
we're seeing That's why, at least on the issue of immigration.
I mean, look how much it's changed since when Donald
Trump was president. You've got now you've got a majority
of Americans that want mass deportations. I mean, you would
have never believed that under or Donald Trump. That's not
where Americans were sore. There are so many policy issues.
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I just I hope he goes in tomorrow night and
release sticks to the issues and doesn't allow her. I mean,
we know she's gonna call him the fellon. You know,
she's going to call them sexes, all these different things,
and I just hope he doesn't allow himself to take
de bab. But look, he's debating three people. You know,
You've got two moderators that are extremely liberal, that push
leftist propaganda, and then you've got Kamala Harris. So it's
(26:50):
you know, three against one.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And let me also say this, because I think the
abortion answer is important. I think Trump can say I
believe in exceptions for life, a mother, rape, and so
same ones that Ronald Reagan believed in. I think it
should be left to the state, and I believe, unlike
Kamala Harris, there should be some limits to abortion. I
would just like it, and I would actually say this
if I were Trump. And I'm curious how you think
(27:13):
this would resonate Lisa, because again, I do think the
gender gap, what the data reflects is if Trump can
get women to come and support him a bit, or
Kamala can get men to come and support her a bit,
that may well determine the outcome of this race. So
I would actually say, if I were Trump and point
it put it on the moderators too. Kamala Harris, do
(27:34):
you support any limit on abortion at all? Do you
oppose ninth month abortion? It's a simple question.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I do.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I do oppose ninth month abortion. Kamala, will you say that?
And I would actually like him to put her a
little bit on the defensive, because I don't think she
would say, yes, you're right, we.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Shouldn't have ninth month abortions.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Yeah, But then you're also setting her up to take
a policy position that aligns with the rest of America.
I man, I'm pretty sure I'd have to go back,
but you know, I'd be looking up at her past
statements on abortion and just trying to My challenge for
Donald Trump tomorrow night is we've seen someone with Kamala
Harris who has no morality, you know, no values, you know,
believes in nothing, you know, willing to change her policy
(28:16):
positions to try to win. I just I would not
give her any wiggle wiggle room on anything. I would
just nail her to every policy position she has said
previously that it's out of step with the rest of America.
We know it is. She's one of the most liberal
United States senator to the left of Bernie Sanders. I mean,
her policy positions are so outside the norm. That's why
she's having to moderate herself now. And the real Kamala
(28:37):
Harris is who she was when she was a United
States Senator and she didn't have to worry about running
in a general election where she had to moderate herself
because she was in liberal California. So that is who
she is. And so I just I don't know, person,
I see what you're saying, but I just if I'm
Donald Trump, I don't give her any room to wiggle
out of previously policy positions. I'm just bringing up her
(28:58):
record nailing it every time, and then saying I'm the guy.
I'm the person that you had more money in your pocket,
the border was secure. You know, you don't have to
worry about having to potentially send your your son or
daughter off to war. And you know, I'm the stability candidate,
I'm the prosperity candidate. I'm the security candidate, and so
I just I don't know, I fear strategy, but if
I'm him, I just don't give her any room to
(29:19):
wiggle out of her past policy positions.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Do you think Tim Wallas has just turned into a
total non factor at this point, Lisa, Because it feels like,
for a moment it was, oh my gosh, Tim Wallas.
And I don't even I don't even think anyone talks
about it at all. Right now, Well, you.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Guys, I was thinking about this. I'm like, like, if
she's wondering why she's doing so poorly with men, I mean,
picking a guy who wants to put tampons in the
boy's bathroom, I mean, that'll do it right. Like I
think most men in the country believe that it is crazy,
and she also has she should be concerned about. I mean, look,
we've already discussed the fact that she's coming gunning for him.
(29:53):
She's going to try to do what she did Mike Pence,
which she did to Joe Biden where she basically called
him a rasis and then sign up to be a VP.
She's going to be vicious. But for her, I would
be worried about coming across as too aggressive and unlikable
because we'd see it up until this point with you know,
the installation of her, you know, the Democrat big donors
and elites installing her as the Democrat nominee. People didn't
(30:17):
like her. I mean, she was up to been one
of the most least unpopular vice presidents in American history.
She flamed out in twenty twenty before Iowa, and that's
where she put all her stock heading into to Iowa.
So this isn't someone who's likable, and so I think
that she should be concerned about going too far with
(30:38):
that and then really turning off one more men but
also women, you know, And so I think that's a
concern for her, and she runs the risk of that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Lisa, did you see Bucke and I mentioned this and
we need to have some fun with it when we
come back to close out the show. Did you see
that the men at NPR had their testosterone levels tested
and all of them tested off like on the bottom limit,
like well below.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Where do you guys have a testosterone of like a
two hundred year old men. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean it's it's these are like forty year old
men and thirty something year old men. Their testosterone levels
were off the charts low.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I saw it. I just kind of nodded.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Do you think there are any actually testosterone laden men,
hardly in America at all that are voting for Kamala?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And how perfect is that for MPR?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Well, it just makes so much sense, right, And I
think what even Dana Bash and CNN was basically saying
that there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Was a low a low t DNC that they were
trying to appeal to beta males.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Basically exactly, and you know, and like in Tim Walla's
appeals to that, even though they previously told us put
them in, you know, a hunting hat and a plaid. Sure,
I don't know, it's confusing, but you know what, I
would love to do. I would love for them to
do some sort of study and have left this men
testosterone and test it compare to Republican men, and I
(32:01):
bet be like, astronomically, no, I think if.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You ran by the way, I'm not even kidding, if
you ran a serious study, this is.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Like, wait, what do we expect?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, Lisa, there is absolutely I mean I would
put a bet down on this right now. If they
did a real statistically sound study of this. There is
one hundred percent a correlation, not a causation, but a
correlation between for men being conservative and having a higher
than average level of testosterone. Here's the other question I
(32:31):
would like to see, Lisa. I'd be curious, Lisa want well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I was going to say, wait, think about this women.
I bet once if you tested women, I bet they
would like the men who have high testosterone even when
they're voting for Comma. In other words, I don't even
think these women who claim to be Democrats like the
Democrat men around them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm curious what you would say about that too.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Okay, so I wish I could remember, like who conducted
the interview, but there it was on Instagram and this
guy was going around interviewing women at the d n
C at the Democrat National Convention, and he was like
asking them who you would rather date, and they're like, oh,
I hate to say it, but probably a concern forative
man because like the well, first of all, I think
(33:15):
men have just gotten more soft in the country at large.
But you know, then you look at the left and
you know, they're celebrating men in dresses, they're toxic masculinity,
all these different things, and you know, and and so yeah,
so I think that they would definitely would rather date
a Republican man than a leftist man. And I wish
(33:37):
I could remember who did the interview because it was
so funny and the woman like hated herself after it.
She was like, oh, I kept admit it.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You know, well, I think this is a great topic
on it for the next is a great topic for
the next episode of The Truth with Lisa Booth. Fantastic
podcast on the Clay and Buck Network, hosted by Lisa Booth. Lisa,
great to have you, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Thanks guys. Okay, have a great day. Now.
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Today News and politics, but also a little comic relief.
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Speaker 2 (35:31):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
going to be tomorrow breaking down everything having to do
with the debate. It's going to be a late night.
I'm going to start off early Buck with Crockett Coffee
to make sure that I have the energy to make
it all the way through the debate. I don't think
it starts till nine pm Eastern. Some of you may
need to take naps as well. Not going to end
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till ten thirty, so make sure you go to Crocketoffee
dot com. I'm doing something fun a little bit later
this afternoon Buck. I'm gonna go watch the premiere of
Am I Racist? Matt Walsh's new show. I'm here in Nashville.
They have their premieres here because the Daily Wires based here.
He's gonna be on with us soon. But it should
be a fun evening. What have you got? You're gonna
(36:14):
try and make sure that you have more testosterone than
all the men at NPR.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Maybe I'm gonna go drink some Crocket coffee. I think
you and I are good when it comes to a
head to head with the MPR NPR testosterone guys.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
If anybody at NPR can out bench press me, any
male or female or male pretending to be female, I
will donate ten thousand dollars to charity of their choice.
Open challenge to anyone at NPR if they can out
bench me.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I wow us there. I don't think I was gonna
tell my couple gonna be just fine NPR. It's like
they bathed an estrogen over there for the guys. My
knee hurts. I'm gonna go ice my knee because I'm
getting old clay. That's my honest, honest answer.
The third hour, Clay in back kicks off. Now as
we know, we are a little over twenty four hours
away from debate night. If nothing else, I think it
is going to get a lot of eyeballs and attention
because it could well be the only debate in fact
right now, I would wager Clay could probably tell me
(00:22):
what the actual if there are bets on this, that
it will be the only debate I don't think there
will be another one with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
I think that it is likely to be the case
that the Kamala campaign decides that this is it. It
is a one and done, and there are plenty of
reasons for Democrats I think going in this to be
(00:42):
very concerned. We started off the show talking about the
New York Times zone polling, which has Trump nationally ahead
by a point on Kamala Harris. The biggest, I think
single data point you can look at, or data points
for why there should be optimism, not over confidence, but
(01:03):
optimism about how this is going, would be that Trump
is in a better position now September ninth than he
was in the on the same day or the same
week perhaps in twenty twenty, and the same day, same
week in twenty sixteen. Now we know he won in
twenty sixteen, he lost by a very small margin in
(01:26):
twenty twenty, and so now we see that Trump is
in a stronger position than he has been either time.
So that's right. If you were just doing better than
he did in twenty twenty, you would say, well, that's
that's encouraging. He's doing better than he was in twenty
sixteen when he won, right when he ended up being
the president afterwards. So that's important, I think Clay. Also,
(01:49):
you've got the latest CBS battleground polling having effectively a
tie in all the states. I mean, it's in a
fifty forty nine, fifty forty nine, fifty to fifty. Pennsylvania's
fifty to fifty. North Carolina is forty nine forty nine,
Georgia Trump is up Wisconsin fifty one to forty nine.
(02:11):
So they're all pretty much within the margin Everara, But
the fact of the matter is Trump always underperforms polling
in these states, not by you know, ten points, but
by a couple of points. He does better than they
think he will, than these same polsters have thought he will.
So it's not quite you know, pull the fire alarms
and run for the exits time for the Democrats with
(02:33):
Kamala Harris's campaign, but going into debate night, they are
in a tough spot and I think they're having to
recognize that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I think also, Buck, and I'm curious if you'd
agree with this, Kamala is a worst candidate than Hillary
in sixteen or Biden in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Absolutely, no question. She's the worst candidate they've had in
She's the worst candidate they've had since John Kerry. And
I think she's a worst candidate than John Kerrey was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was gonna sell the worst since Dukecaccus potentially, which
is kind of wild to go all the way back
to eighty eight, just in terms of you know, he
was a Massachusetts Liberal. She's a California Liberal. But you
don't even have to take it from us our good
friend Joe Scarborough. I saw this in our cuts, Buck,
I wanted to play this. Are you so to hold
on a second, hold on it? Are you starting to
watch a little Morning Joe Clay? You starting to get
(03:19):
it on the action, don't? I do occasionally search Joe
Scarborough clips because I.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Think of anyone in media. I mean, I mean this honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I don't know that there is a bigger propagandist shill, yes,
of anyone in media. I mean this honestly, of anyone
in media on the left or the right that has
a daily show than Joe Scarborough. And the reason why
I would make that argument is he's on camera saying
the exact opposite of everything that he says within the
(03:52):
last like year and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
A half, two the years. I think the guiding principle
of Morning Joe is that Joe and Mika will say
absolutely anything without any regard to what they have previously said,
what they really believe, or what a reasonable rational person
would think. They will say absolutely anything and they don't
(04:14):
believe it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And here is Joe Scarborough talking about, Hey, Kamala Harris
is the worst and least popular vice president ever, Worse
than Dan Quail, worse than everybody else that you can
think of who hasn't been popular, Dick Cheney. And we
need to talk about Dick Cheney suddenly being her supporter
just in the last year before she was the nominated.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Right before That's what I want to see before she's
the nominee.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
But I do think it's instructive if you're out there
and you're wondering, hey, can you trust the opinions of
the people that are out there spreading this stuff. I
just think it's important for us to keep sharing just
how diabolical they are. This is twenty twenty three, this
is last year. Scarborough says she's unpopular because she hasn't
(05:01):
been a good VP, not because she's black, not because
she's a woman. Listened to cut six.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh, they're being so mean to Kamala Harris. They're racist.
She's a woman. They're scared of her because she's a
black woman. They hate black women. They're scared of Has.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Anybody ever heard it van Quell not black or a woman?
That guy got raked oller that calls unmercifully. Has anybody
ever heard of George Herbert Walker Bush?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That guy got destroyed? Why because he was a vice
frid you remember the wimp factor. I'm just tired of
hearing people's ow Kamala So it's because she's black and
she's a woman, and she's whatever and there frit No,
she's vice president.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We need to put that side by side with Carbaro
with Scarborough saying now that Kamala is the nominee. That
much of the discredit of Kamala Harris is directly connected
to her being black and a woman, which is what
he's arguing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Now, This is what I mean. Joss Scarborough was a Joe.
He was the guy who said that that Joe Biden
was the sharpest he had ever been, not that he
was sharp enough to be president, which he clearly is not.
And I should note you notice Biden is not even
really the president in any meaningful day to day way.
And this has become very often. We don't have a president.
We basically have an empty chair with a bunch of
(06:29):
advisors and department heads running everything, but there's no leadership
from this White House whatsoever because we don't actually have
an active president. And it just goes to show you
as well, though why not why not have Kamala ascends
because they couldn't push Joe. That was the concession they
were willing to make the him. He gets to finish
out his term even though he's got dementia. But Clay
(06:50):
I also thought this was really interesting. Bertie Sanders, who
I've had to say is maybe the only Senator who
is more left wing or as left wing is Kamala
Harris from her time in the Senate. You know, we
talked about this on Friday. She has It's so funny too.
It's not that she she isn't anything. Her advisors are
telling friendly media outlets, Oh that thing that you're gonna
(07:14):
have to bring up because it's a horrible political you know,
blunder or horrible political vulnerability. You know, she wants to
ban fracking, she wants to give illegals Obamacare, she wants
to ban plastic straws, all those things that she's walked
away from. People are now having to ask, well, hold
on a second, So is Kamala Harris now a centrist
(07:35):
even like republican leaning democrat? Like, what's going on? The
answers of course, No, she's just lying to everybody, And
Bernie Sanders this is cut eight, basically says, yeah, no,
don't worry, she's still a socialist. She's just trying to
fool people.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
She has previously supported medicare for all, now she does not.
She's previously supported a ban on fracking, now she does not.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
These Senator, are.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think think
that she is abandoning her progressive ideals.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I think she's trying to be pragmatic in doing what
she thinks is right in order to win the election.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Quiet part out loud. Oh No, she's still a comie.
She's just lying to people now because she thinks that
they're dumb enough to believe her. I mean that is
a translation of exactly Bernie Sanders sentiment right there.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And you know what's interesting, Buck, I mentioned yesterday was football.
NFL played all day college football all weekend, and I
couldn't get past this, and I sent a tweet out
about it. No matter how good or bad your coach
team performed, and no matter how good or bad your
quarterback did, I was struck as I was watching all
(08:47):
of the reaction come in. We require every quarterback in
the NFL and every coach in the NFL to show
up for a postgame press conference and answer questions from
every member of the media about the decisions that he
just made, either as a player or as a coach,
immediately after the game's over. Kamala Harris hasn't done a
(09:10):
press conference in fifty days. What does it say about
the status of our country that we hold football coaches
and quarterbacks to a higher standard of job availability for
media access than the person who's asking to be president
of the United States. It just crystallized for me over
(09:30):
the weekend how insane this is. Every quarterback, even if
he was a disaster, had to show up and answer
questions about what choices he had made and why he
had made them, and Kamala Harris hasn't had to do
it once.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, but this is also I mean to take your
analogy and run with it for a second, Clay, This
would be if the sports media all were rooting for
one team and they all wanted that one team's quarterback
to stay, and so they would allow him to not
actually give a conference and not say anything about it
because they're all in on it. Right. This isn't about
like just sports accountability versus political accountability. They know they're
(10:08):
they know she's not being held accountable. The whole point
is they're they're the con right, they're in on this.
They are the collusion machinery here. I'm using that word
against Democrats, so it's not going to change anytime soon.
But really, the part of this that I would hope
is resonating. And again it's when I say hope it's resoning.
We're very big country, you know, three hundred and fifty
(10:29):
million people when you start to add in all the illegals,
and we're a very big country, and maybe three or
four hundred thousand people are going to be the whole
difference in this election. I'm hoping that those swing voters
feel or a picking off on what's really going on here,
which is the Kamala Harris campaign thinks that they are idiots.
What's it? The Kamala Harris campaign is is dripping with
(10:53):
condescension for everyday people in the swing states who are
still figuring out who to vote for because they think
they can get away. The Kamala campaign and their media
allies with the most obvious lies, evasions, and scams, and
that's all that's going on here. So I hope that
there's revulsion against that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And remember to do one ninety minute debate tomorrow, and
there may only be one. They have holed her up
for five days in Pittsburgh to prepare, and she's only
going to talk for probably thirty six thirty seven minutes
total in that ninety minute debate because you're going to
have two commercial breaks. You got the moderators talking, you
(11:35):
got Trump talking. She might only have to speak for
thirty five minutes, and they've spent five days preparing for this.
I think one thing that can happen is you over
prepare and come out not sounding normal. I almost would
prefer if I were running. I mean, you're on the
trail all the time. I feel like we prepare for
debates every day because we do three hours and we
(11:56):
have to be ready to talk. I can't imagine preparing
five days to talk for thirty six minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, I also, I know it's preposterous, right, we finish
the show and then we go do extra shows after
we finish the show, just to correct, and then and
then we go do other things, and we know the
content never stops. I think Clay another point that I
would really hope that Donald Trump will make on that
debate stage one that I feel very strongly about. Well,
there's a lot of them, but he should absolutely push
(12:25):
her on you now say that you or rather your
surrogates are saying you want to build, you want to
build a wall. You're lying, I mean she's lying. She
does not want to build a wall. But the fact
that they've put that out there is just indicative of
how absurd this whole thing is. You know what I'm saying,
I want to get hammered.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think that's a really good point. And you can
already tell what she's going to respond, right, She's going
to say, well, we tried to put together the biggest
border security wall bill possible, and you got the Republicans
to not support it. What Trump needs to be prepared
for on that counter punch is your bill wasn't strong enough.
You've acknowledged that you're wrong, You've let in over ten
million illegals, and now you foundationally did not support a
(13:08):
border wall, and you're now saying you're for it. You're
just a liar whose border security has failed. And the
timing also proves what a lie the whole thing is, too,
which has been obvious to anybody along, which is why
the Republicans in the Senate who played along with that
border biller are well, maybe they're just self interested, but
I think they're also pretty dumb. If they wanted to
(13:29):
secure the border, they could have done in the first year.
Why do they wait till year four of Biden's presidency
to put this bill forward, which doesn't secure the border
at all. And also he should push her on deportations.
Do you want to build a wall? Okay, do you
commit to radically increasing will you triple? Will you quadruple
the number of deportations that you've had pre You know
the answer is not. She's just going to evade. I know,
(13:51):
but I really hope Trump hammers. I mean, the ten
million illegals coming in, they can't hide it at least
at least and again I think you just have to hammer.
Don't go in what I would suggest, and we'll talk.
We'll give advice tomorrow. But my number one piece of
advice would be, don't follow Kamala Harris down the rabbit hole.
She's going to try to get you to chase her
and talk about the subjects that she wants to talk about.
(14:14):
Reject her premise, go right back every time you can.
To their failures on economy, border crime, and buck. The
one thing that's certainly true about the border is Trump
knows this well. Biden didn't get the bill that he wanted.
He put in place executive orders, and the number of
people crossing the border illegally changed when they reversed the
initial executive orders that they put in place as soon
(14:37):
as he came into office. He didn't need congressional authority
for lots of the decisions that he was going to make.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Dana Bash, the only
person to interview Kamala Harris and Tim Wall so far,
is an objective journal a ha ha ha sorry claims
to be an objective journalist, but she wanted all of
you to know that Dick Cheney saying that he's voting
for Kamala Harris it is more impactful than RFK Junior.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Listen, I hear you about endorsements. We don't really know
the impact that they have all the time. RFK Junior
hasn't been an elected office. Dick Cheney was Vice President
of the United States for eight years. He was a
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(17:03):
for a long time. You don't think his endorsement of
a Democrat with that kind of pedigree is going to
make a difference with I.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Really don't, okay, Buck, Is there a single person in
America who was not already voting for Kamala Harris that
saw Dick Cheney was and decided that they had to
vote for Kamala Harris too.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I don't want to be mean. I think I think
more people wouldn't know if Dick Cheney's alive than actually
care about who he thinks you should vote for. It's
just true. I mean he's been I mean, I'll be
honest with you.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think he was so wrong on Iraq and so
wrong on much of his leadership. In my personal opinion,
him voting for Kamala Harris feels right to me, and
it actually makes me more convinced in my vote for
Donald Trump. Honestly, same thing, Mitt Romney. I mean, there
are a lot of guys out there that I think
have turned their backs on the fights of the day,
(17:56):
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Sleay, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Lisa Booth is with
us now the one and only Box News political analyst.
Host of The Truth with Lisa Booth in the Clay
end Buck podcast Network. Doing fantastic numbers because so many
of you are listening and want to hear her political insights.
Mss Lisa. Always great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
How are you doing, Hey, guys, I've missed you. It's
great to be on.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, it's it's been a little bit, so we appreciate
you making the time for especially in advance of this debate.
Let's start with this. We'll get into some of you
or what do you think about the debate in a moment? Okay,
what do you think about the campaign so far? Like,
how is Trump doing in twenty twenty four versus what
you can compare it to in twenty twenty although I
know that was a crazy year for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Well, I think the challenge is, I mean you can't
really compare them, right, I mean, think of what had
happened in such a just in the past couple of
months alone. I mean, we had an assassination attempt, against
Donald Trump, which the media try to sweep under the rug.
And obviously we're being lied to by the Secret Service
and the FBI about what exactly happened. And then you
had an entirely new Democrat ticket with Kamala Harris and
(20:04):
then her selection of Tim Walls and Joe Biden stepping
out of the race via x even though somehow he's
still the president of the United States, which is confusing.
So I don't know if you can compare the two.
I mean, we've never really had a truncated, you know,
general election like this before, so I don't think you
can compare the two. I think he's trying to do
the best he can on quicksand with sort of this
(20:27):
changing environment, and tomorrow night's debate is obviously very important
because of all that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Lisa, do you ever just get frustrated with women for
being idiots and.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
How they're voting?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Oh, every day, every day book, I mean, you know what,
It disturbs me, and it hurts my heart that so
many women in the country prioritize the ability to kill
an unborn child over being able to put food on
the table for their existing families or being safe in
the street. Or not having terrorists crossed, or southern borders.
(21:02):
But unfortunately we've arrived at this point where Democrats have
made such a big issue out of reproductive freedom, when
it's not reproductive freedom, it's it's just the ability to
murder an unborn child, essentially what they're advocating for. So yeah,
it makes me sad. And you know, I hope that
we can try to continue to change hearts and minds
as a country, but it's disturbing to me.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So if you were now advising Trump, and I don't
want to overstate this, Lisa, but you know, this radio
show is kind of big. Some people say huge, and
there are some Trump people who listen to the show,
so this might make its way to Trump, although you
probably could just call them on your phone later. But
what would you advise as key points for Trump to
(21:45):
focus on tomorrow? And I just want to remind her
release his work, not as you do political analysis on
Fox News. She's worked on campaigns in the past, stretching
back for many, many years. So what do you think.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Well, I will say this that Kamala Harris faces she's
losing men by a bigger margin than winning women in
some states like Pennsylvania, Nevada, and North Carolina. So there's
a lot of focus on the female though, but not
her problems with men. I mean, women do tend to
turn out more than men, so that is an issue.
I'm not going to downplay that. But for him for
the debates, Mark, I mean, look, we know what her
(22:15):
strategy is going to be. We saw it against Mike Pence.
She's going to try to be inflammatory. She's going to
call him a fella, and she's going to call him
massage and as sexes, all these different things. And so
he just can't give her that SoundBite. And what he
needs to do. I mean, there was a CNN pool
recently that found the majority of Americans look back positively
on his agenda, that there is some Trump nostalgia with
(22:37):
the way his administration used to be, and so he
needs to remind voters why that is the fact that
you know, real wages were up, the fact that we
weren't facing this kind of inflation, the southern border was
under control, that we had stability in peace throughout the
world and not the instability and chaos that we see now.
So he needs to remind voters of what his administration
stood for what we can have again as a country.
(22:58):
And again she has said that her value haven't changed
and that CNN interview Bernie Sanders went on TV on
Meet the Press this weekend and said that she's a progressive,
she's just trying to moderate herself to win a general election.
So Donald Trump needs to remind Americans what those policy
positions are. The fact that she is to the left
of Bernie Sanders. They should be in a commune together
in Vermont, not her in the White House. You know,
(23:20):
I mean, this is a woman, as we know, decriminalizing
southern borders or the southern border, Medicare for all. She
compared Ice to the KKK. She said she was the
last person in the room and the disastrous decision to
get out of Afghanistan. So in the manner in which
they did, so there's ample you know, there's ample opportunity
there for Donald Trump. But he just needs to stick
(23:40):
to the case and not let her get under his
skin and just nail her to the cross and all
these policy positions.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
We're talking to Lisa Booth, who's alma mater the University
of Tennessee absolutely obliterated NC State over the weekend in Charlotte,
North Carolina. That was a big win. I'm a big
Tennessee fan as well, Lisa. So if Trump wants to
beat Kamala like Tennessee beat NC State, Sorry NC State
(24:06):
fans out there listening. Economy, border crime is huge. You
mentioned abortion and how many women are responding on that issue.
I think the thing that Trump needs to do, and
I'm curious how you would advise him if he were
listening to respond to this is say, look, Republicans have
a variety of perspectives on how to respond to abortion.
(24:27):
It's a state related issue. What almost everybody voting for
Republican agrees is second and third trimester abortion is wrong
and it is murder. Would you advise that angle? And
to say, like to try to pivot and say what
the it used to be safe, legal, and rare was
what Democrats said. Now party orthodoxy is if you want
(24:48):
to have an abortion in the ninth month, you can.
Americans overwhelmingly rejected what the Democrat orthodoxy is, whereas there's
lots of support for different Republican perspective. Is that the
right answer or how should he handle it? Because it
is going to come.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Up well and I think that's the right answer. I
mean he's kicked it over to the States. Obviously, that
happened with the overturning of Rover Swede. And you know,
also and to your point, I mean, the Democrats are
radical on this issue. Their positions are actually outside of
the norm of Americans. I mean, even look at Tim
Walls and what he did as governor of Minnesota there
and he removed protections for babies that were born alive
(25:26):
after botched abortions. I mean, it doesn't get sicker than that.
And so you know, I agree that he should turn
that around. And then also you know, make the case
again like he really needs to stick on. As you mentioned,
you've got the economy, you've got the border, and you've
got wars across the world. He is the candidate that's
going to be bring peace and stability of the United States.
(25:47):
He's the candidate that's going to be in prosperity and
more money in your wallet. He's the candidate that's going
to keep you safe for vent terris from crossing the
southern border. And also just the unfairness with some of
these Democrats and some of these cities wanting to you know,
give all this money to a legal immigrants, put them up,
give them, you know, a certain subsidized housing for them,
while Americans are maxing out their credit cards to put
(26:07):
groceries on the table. So that's unfair for Americans, and
we're seeing That's why, at least on the issue of immigration.
I mean, look how much it's changed since when Donald
Trump was president. You've got now you've got a majority
of Americans that want mass deportations. I mean, you would
have never believed that under or Donald Trump. That's not
where Americans were sore. There are so many policy issues.
(26:29):
I just I hope he goes in tomorrow night and
release sticks to the issues and doesn't allow her. I mean,
we know she's gonna call him the fellon. You know,
she's going to call them sexes, all these different things,
and I just hope he doesn't allow himself to take
de bab. But look, he's debating three people. You know,
You've got two moderators that are extremely liberal, that push
leftist propaganda, and then you've got Kamala Harris. So it's
(26:50):
you know, three against one.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And let me also say this, because I think the
abortion answer is important. I think Trump can say I
believe in exceptions for life, a mother, rape, and so
same ones that Ronald Reagan believed in. I think it
should be left to the state, and I believe, unlike
Kamala Harris, there should be some limits to abortion. I
would just like it, and I would actually say this
if I were Trump. And I'm curious how you think
(27:13):
this would resonate Lisa, because again, I do think the
gender gap, what the data reflects is if Trump can
get women to come and support him a bit, or
Kamala can get men to come and support her a bit,
that may well determine the outcome of this race. So
I would actually say, if I were Trump and point
it put it on the moderators too. Kamala Harris, do
(27:34):
you support any limit on abortion at all? Do you
oppose ninth month abortion? It's a simple question.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I do.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I do oppose ninth month abortion. Kamala, will you say that?
And I would actually like him to put her a
little bit on the defensive, because I don't think she
would say, yes, you're right, we.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Shouldn't have ninth month abortions.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Yeah, But then you're also setting her up to take
a policy position that aligns with the rest of America.
I man, I'm pretty sure I'd have to go back,
but you know, I'd be looking up at her past
statements on abortion and just trying to My challenge for
Donald Trump tomorrow night is we've seen someone with Kamala
Harris who has no morality, you know, no values, you know,
believes in nothing, you know, willing to change her policy
(28:16):
positions to try to win. I just I would not
give her any wiggle wiggle room on anything. I would
just nail her to every policy position she has said
previously that it's out of step with the rest of America.
We know it is. She's one of the most liberal
United States senator to the left of Bernie Sanders. I mean,
her policy positions are so outside the norm. That's why
she's having to moderate herself now. And the real Kamala
(28:37):
Harris is who she was when she was a United
States Senator and she didn't have to worry about running
in a general election where she had to moderate herself
because she was in liberal California. So that is who
she is. And so I just I don't know, person,
I see what you're saying, but I just if I'm
Donald Trump, I don't give her any room to wiggle
out of previously policy positions. I'm just bringing up her
(28:58):
record nailing it every time, and then saying I'm the guy.
I'm the person that you had more money in your pocket,
the border was secure. You know, you don't have to
worry about having to potentially send your your son or
daughter off to war. And you know, I'm the stability candidate,
I'm the prosperity candidate. I'm the security candidate, and so
I just I don't know, I fear strategy, but if
I'm him, I just don't give her any room to
(29:19):
wiggle out of her past policy positions.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Do you think Tim Wallas has just turned into a
total non factor at this point, Lisa, Because it feels like,
for a moment it was, oh my gosh, Tim Wallas.
And I don't even I don't even think anyone talks
about it at all. Right now, Well, you.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Guys, I was thinking about this. I'm like, like, if
she's wondering why she's doing so poorly with men, I mean,
picking a guy who wants to put tampons in the
boy's bathroom, I mean, that'll do it right. Like I
think most men in the country believe that it is crazy,
and she also has she should be concerned about. I mean, look,
we've already discussed the fact that she's coming gunning for him.
(29:53):
She's going to try to do what she did Mike Pence,
which she did to Joe Biden where she basically called
him a rasis and then sign up to be a VP.
She's going to be vicious. But for her, I would
be worried about coming across as too aggressive and unlikable
because we'd see it up until this point with you know,
the installation of her, you know, the Democrat big donors
and elites installing her as the Democrat nominee. People didn't
(30:17):
like her. I mean, she was up to been one
of the most least unpopular vice presidents in American history.
She flamed out in twenty twenty before Iowa, and that's
where she put all her stock heading into to Iowa.
So this isn't someone who's likable, and so I think
that she should be concerned about going too far with
(30:38):
that and then really turning off one more men but
also women, you know, And so I think that's a
concern for her, and she runs the risk of that.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Lisa, did you see Bucke and I mentioned this and
we need to have some fun with it when we
come back to close out the show. Did you see
that the men at NPR had their testosterone levels tested
and all of them tested off like on the bottom limit,
like well below.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Where do you guys have a testosterone of like a
two hundred year old men. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I mean it's it's these are like forty year old
men and thirty something year old men. Their testosterone levels
were off the charts low.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And I saw it. I just kind of nodded.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Do you think there are any actually testosterone laden men,
hardly in America at all that are voting for Kamala?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And how perfect is that for MPR?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Well, it just makes so much sense, right, And I
think what even Dana Bash and CNN was basically saying
that there.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Was a low a low t DNC that they were
trying to appeal to beta males.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Basically exactly, and you know, and like in Tim Walla's
appeals to that, even though they previously told us put
them in, you know, a hunting hat and a plaid. Sure,
I don't know, it's confusing, but you know what, I
would love to do. I would love for them to
do some sort of study and have left this men
testosterone and test it compare to Republican men, and I
(32:01):
bet be like, astronomically, no, I think if.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You ran by the way, I'm not even kidding, if
you ran a serious study, this is.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
Like, wait, what do we expect?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know, Lisa, there is absolutely I mean I would
put a bet down on this right now. If they
did a real statistically sound study of this. There is
one hundred percent a correlation, not a causation, but a
correlation between for men being conservative and having a higher
than average level of testosterone. Here's the other question I
(32:31):
would like to see, Lisa. I'd be curious, Lisa want well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I was going to say, wait, think about this women.
I bet once if you tested women, I bet they
would like the men who have high testosterone even when
they're voting for Comma. In other words, I don't even
think these women who claim to be Democrats like the
Democrat men around them.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm curious what you would say about that too.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Okay, so I wish I could remember, like who conducted
the interview, but there it was on Instagram and this
guy was going around interviewing women at the d n
C at the Democrat National Convention, and he was like
asking them who you would rather date, and they're like, oh,
I hate to say it, but probably a concern forative
man because like the well, first of all, I think
(33:15):
men have just gotten more soft in the country at large.
But you know, then you look at the left and
you know, they're celebrating men in dresses, they're toxic masculinity,
all these different things, and you know, and and so yeah,
so I think that they would definitely would rather date
a Republican man than a leftist man. And I wish
(33:37):
I could remember who did the interview because it was
so funny and the woman like hated herself after it.
She was like, oh, I kept admit it.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You know, well, I think this is a great topic
on it for the next is a great topic for
the next episode of The Truth with Lisa Booth. Fantastic
podcast on the Clay and Buck Network, hosted by Lisa Booth. Lisa,
great to have you, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
Thanks guys. Okay, have a great day. Now.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
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Speaker 2 (35:31):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
going to be tomorrow breaking down everything having to do
with the debate. It's going to be a late night.
I'm going to start off early Buck with Crockett Coffee
to make sure that I have the energy to make
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till ten thirty, so make sure you go to Crocketoffee
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They have their premieres here because the Daily Wires based here.
He's gonna be on with us soon. But it should
be a fun evening. What have you got? You're gonna
(36:14):
try and make sure that you have more testosterone than
all the men at NPR.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Maybe I'm gonna go drink some Crocket coffee. I think
you and I are good when it comes to a
head to head with the MPR NPR testosterone guys.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
If anybody at NPR can out bench press me, any
male or female or male pretending to be female, I
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bench me.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I wow us there. I don't think I was gonna
tell my couple gonna be just fine NPR. It's like
they bathed an estrogen over there for the guys. My
knee hurts. I'm gonna go ice my knee because I'm
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