July 21, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of political analysis, media critique, and cultural commentary. The hour opens with reflections on the one-year anniversary of President Joe Biden’s decision to exit the 2024 race, sparking intense discussion around Hunter Biden’s recent media blitz. The hosts dissect Hunter’s profanity-laced criticism of Democrats like George Clooney and James Carville, and speculate on his potential political ambitions—raising the provocative question: is Hunter Biden testing the waters for a future run?
The segment also covers breaking news of actor Malcolm-Jamal Warner’s reported death, adding a somber note to the hour.
A major focus is the cancellation of Stephen Colbert’s late-night show, which reportedly lost $40 million annually despite high ratings. The hosts challenge claims that the cancellation was politically motivated, instead pointing to unsustainable business models and the broader collapse of legacy media. This leads into a broader critique of late-night television, the decline of traditional media, and the rise of alternative platforms like YouTube and podcasts.
The conversation pivots to the WNBA’s financial woes, highlighting the league’s projected $40 million loss and the players’ controversial “Pay Us What You Owe Us” campaign. The hosts draw parallels between the WNBA and Colbert’s show, arguing both are examples of “woke economics” disconnected from market realities.
Listeners are also treated to a tribute to Admiral James Flatley, the only aviator to land and take off a C-130 Hercules from an aircraft carrier—an aviation feat tied to Buck Sexton’s family history.
The hour wraps with commentary on economic migration trends, including the relocation of In-N-Out Burger’s president to Tennessee, and a critique of progressive economic policies in states like California and New York. The hosts emphasize the importance of economic literacy, authenticity in media, and the enduring power of talk radio in a fragmented media landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday edition
of the program. I appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. Lots of different stories we have been talking about.
It is the one year anniversary of Joe Biden announcing
that he was going to be dropping out of the race,
and for some reason, Hunter Biden has decided to step
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himself into the midst of all of these different stories.
By the way, one bit of bad news that is
starting to circulate for those of you who grew up
or as adults watched The Cosby Show Malcolm Jamal Warner,
that is THEO from The Cosby Show dead according to
(00:45):
TMZ of a potential they're saying drowning. But for those
of you out there who grew up in the nineteen
eighties or raised kids in the nineteen eighties Cosby Show,
very popular show, and THEO on The Cosby Show one
of the most popular characters on that show fifty four
years old in that in that outcome awful situation in general. Okay,
(01:12):
I wanted to play a couple of these buck and
then we're going to dive into the Colvert story, which
I think is really worthy of discussing in many ways,
but we talked about a lot of different aspects of
the decision by Joe Biden to drop out. Here is
Hunter Biden going off on George Clooney, James Carvel and
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other Democrats for helping to oust his dad. Cut thirty.
Listen to this, lots of expletives bleeped. I hope we
caught him all here.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It is Jim and everybody around him. I don't have
to be nice. Number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino.
George Plooney is not an actor. He is a I
don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by
the way, and God bless him, you know what. He's fuzzily,
treats his friends really well, and he's great friends with
Barack Olama. You what do you have to do with anything?
(02:02):
Why do I have to listen to you? What right
do you have to step on a man who's given
fifty two years of his life to the services of
this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are going
to take out basically a full page ad in New
York Times to me and James Carville, who hasn't run
a race in forty years, and David Axelrod who had
won success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama.
(02:24):
And that was because of Barack Obama, not because of
David Axelrod and David Pluff and all of these guys.
They're all going to insert their judgment over a man
who has figured out, unlike anybody else, how to get
elected to the United States Senate over seven times, how
to pass more legislation than any president in history, how
to have a better midterm election than anybody in history,
and how to garner more votes than any president that
(02:46):
has ever wruon. And they're going to replace their judgment
for his.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, why is Hunter suddenly doing all of this media book.
I'll give you my theory. You tell me if you
sign on or if this is crazy. I think Hunter
is testing the ground to potentially run for political office.
I love it when you do. When you go now,
now I get to say, you're out of your mind.
(03:10):
That's the good. I just why else your Pennsylvania monument idea?
Very smart, very good idea. I have to say this
is this is Clay throwing one into the end zone
and now they're running it back for a pick six.
My friend, this is this is just crazy talk. I
don't understand why he would be suddenly breaking all of
his political silence. Now you can say, okay, well, he's
(03:31):
just gonna try to defend his dad because he thinks
his dad has been attacked too much and nobody else
is publicly doing it. Okay, but if you were going
to do that, do you do it in these podcasts
where there's your do I think Hunter sees himself this
is not what I am signing on to. I think
Hunter actually believes that he's super smart, that he's strategically brilliant,
(03:54):
and that I think Hunter in some way has convinced
himself that his dad is both of those things too,
and that he is the Biden legacy that can defend
his dad going forward. And so this is I'm trying
to analyze why in the world this would happen. Let
me else, you play this for you. We talked about
why June twenty seventh was so bad, and I came
(04:16):
on and said, and somebody can go pull it on
the team. I'm pretty sure, I said. The House of
Card story here would be that usually he gets a
drug shot, right that would be an upper and instead
of giving him the Upper. They gave him the Downer instead,
and so what allowed him to go out at the
State of the Union. I think beyond the shadow of
(04:38):
a doubt they would shoot him up with stuff. Is
suddenly they did the opposite. Hunter Biden came out and
basically said this. He said they had him on ambion.
That's why he was performing so poorly at the debate.
Listen to this.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew
around the world basically, and the mileage that he could
have flown around the world three times. Yeah, he's eighty
one years old, he's tired of give him ambient.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
To be able to sleep.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He gets up on the stage and he looks like
he's a deer in the headlights.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So I think that all of this is very interesting.
My theory again House of Card style, for those of
you who remember the television show, is it would have
been an episode where they give him a shot and
instead of the Upper, it's the Downer, and he goes
out and his political career is over. To say, hey,
he was taken ambient because he wasn't having trouble sleeping.
They were trying to get his energy back. Up. This
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is why I've never taken an ambient, by the way,
because it feels like every time I get on an
airplane to go anywhere, I have to wake up and
work the next day, and I'm always afraid that the
ambient will linger. I don't know how many people take ambient.
I've never taken it, but that I won't have the
energy I need to be able to do my job.
But this is now taking over the news cycle. Hunter
(05:51):
Biden has decided to parachute in cannonball style right into
otherwise quiet season of summer vacation time, and now, well,
this is going to be leading everything. Even seeing in
an MSNBC, I think I don't know Hunter Biden. I
just I can't bring myself to think that this is
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going to be anything that anyone really goes with or
cares about very much. The guy's a mess, and the
guy was always a giant drag on his father's political fortunes,
and his dad was a jerk and a fraud. So
I think that he's a baby and he's acting out.
I don't see this as any kind of strategic move.
I think this is just a former drug addict and
(06:37):
spoiled Bratt throwing a tantrum on podcast that'll have him
for attention. I don't. I don't think there is a
higher move. By the way, If you are right and
he does end up running for office, I don't know.
I don't know what's happened in the world, but that
would be that would be the most outrageous call anyone's
ever made. So I'm not working down. I'm not saying
that he would be a good candidate. I actually would
(06:58):
like for him to run. I would just if he
just ran, you get and he could get smoked and
get one percent of the vote, and I would still say,
your call here is astonishing, because Clay, the first fifty
people that I would walk past on the street here
in Miami are better suited to any political office than Hunter.
Biden is the first random fifty people that I see,
(07:19):
without exception, I could just pick the first fifty people
I walked past. I think that he likely has bought
into the idea again that he is the smartest man
Joe Biden's ever known, that he has unique political talents, gifts.
I'm not saying that it's irrational, reasonable, or in any
way reflected in reality. I just think this is the
kind of thing that ultimately ends up someone decides to run.
(07:42):
I hope he does, all right. Second part here, we
mentioned this because the news was breaking basically when we
were on the air. If I remember correctly that we
had on Friday, I think news came out or I
guess it was Thursday night, whatever it was. That Colbert
was being anseled, and his final guest before the cancelation
(08:04):
announcement or was Adam Schiff, which was perfect. I'm surprised
at the degree to which Democrats have lined up to
argue that this is unacceptable, and I want to hit
you with a couple of stats because I was reading
a lot about this over the weekend. First of all,
the Colbert Report costs over one hundred million dollars to air,
(08:29):
one hundred million dollars for a TV show. My jaw
dropped when I saw that. Now there's different reports that
Colbert made either fifteen or twenty million dollars, and the
show was losing forty million dollars, so it was a
very unsuccessful business enterprise. Democrats have uniformly lined up to say, hey,
(08:54):
this is CBS trying to curry favor with Trump. I
just look at it and say, I can't imagine being
on a show that loses forty million dollars a year,
and when the show gets canceled, the argument being, Hey,
this is all political. This is an example of how totalitarianism,
how fascism spreads. We got some audio of this I
(09:17):
want to play, but I want us to be able
to react because we know a little bit of something
about doing media. This is Senator Chris Murphy saying, we're
on the precipice of entering a censorship state. Listen to
cut thirty two.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I want to tell you why the cancelation of Stephen
Colbert's show matters so much. We are on the precipice
of entering a censorship state in which Donald Trump is
using the powers of the federal government in order to
erase criticism from the airwaves. What's happening at CBS right
now is bone chilling. Stephen Colbert didn't get thrown off
(09:52):
the air because he wasn't doing well.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He was the highest.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Rated show on TV in late night. He was canceled
very likely because Paramount and its owners are trying to
get rich off of this merger, and Donald Trump has
made it clear to them and everybody else in the
media space that if you want any favors from me,
then you have to silence my critics on your platforms.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Delusional. His whole analysis is delusional. Stephen Colbert destroyed not
just the Tonight Show or the Late Show, which went
to the Late Show Tonight Show, Late Show. Yeah, Late
Show destroyed the Late Show, but he destroyed Late Night's comedy.
I think because he created a dynamic where the other
(10:36):
guys all also followed in with their anti Trump madness
and just brought the whole thing down. It's kind of
what happened at CNN, similar what happened over at CNN
where the hosts that we're rating in twenty sixteen were
the hosts who were anti Trump twenty four to seven.
Believe it or not, Don Lemon was the top rated
CNN host for a while in the demo, top rated
across the entire channel. Why every night was just oh
(10:58):
my gosh, Donald Trump, Donald Trump is so evil, and
that was working for a little bit, but then the
rest of the channel followed suit and they destroyed the
whole thing. Clay the reason they're all going in to
defend Colbert, and it's pretty indefensible considering how expensive. First
of all, why wouldn't Colbert say, you know what, I'm
not worth fifteen million dollars a year or twenty million
dollars a year, whatever it is. We're gonna need to
tighten our belts here, and I'm going to take a
(11:20):
smaller salary because i want this to endure, and i
want my staff to have jobs, and I'm willing to
take a pay cut, you know, still make five or
ten million dollars a year so that we can be
more sustainable going forward. No, he's greedy. He's greedy, and
he's a jerk, and he wasn't worth the money they
were paying him. It's absurd that they were doing this,
running forty million dollars a year in the red. It's
(11:42):
crazy that money is coming from somewhere else, right, So
something else in that corporation that's making money has to subsidize,
kind of like the WNBA has has to be subsidized
by that. And you sit here and clay the real
problem they have with Colbert's cancelation, the stuff where they're
pretending it's Trump. I mean, it's just childish, it's babyish.
They're losing some of their favorite toys. Though. The Democrats,
(12:05):
whether it's NPR, it's you know, the dominance of the
of the late programs with anti Trump Democrat voices. They're
losing some of the built in advantages that they have,
They're losing some of the legacy media dominance that they've enjoyed,
and it makes them very nervous because without cheating, they
can't win. I also think it's a cautionary tale, and
(12:29):
I would love I mean, if you can think of one,
let me know. I think the question of can you
name somebody out there that has gone woke that has
ultimately ended up benefiting you know, bud Light has not,
the NBA has not. The WNBA seems to think that
the woke universe still exists. Colbert certainly didn't. Everybody who
(12:52):
followed Colbert did not. I think that what you will
soon see is ABC will probably move on, INNBC will
move on. I don't know how long it's gonna take
for late night television basically to collapse everywhere. But if
the highest rated show is losing forty million dollars a year,
I can't believe that the cost structure for ABC and
(13:13):
NBC shows are that much different. Who benefited from going woke,
even Ben and Jerry's ice cream, which has been a
left wing basically communist ice cream. Interestingly, from the founding,
who is the over the hill football player who took
the knee? He benefited Colin Kaepernick. Yeah for a little while,
but then even that blew up on him. Yeah, he
(13:34):
benefited from that era because E didn't his era would
have been over beforehand. I just I don't know who
the winners are coming out of this, and I think
what you're seeing is actually just the return to sanity,
and I think it ties in. Let's talk about that
WNBA situation, because I think the women in the WNBA
showing up and pay us what you owe us. Their
(13:56):
league lost forty million dollars last year. Not dissimilar to
Stephen Colbert when your business is losing money and you
are arguing that you are owed way more money. I
do not think that the average American out there thinks
that you deserve to be paid. In fact, the numbers
are if the WNBA had to pay to re sign
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up for what they're actually losing, every player would owe
the league two hundred and fifty thousand dollars instead of
being paid to play. They would actually owe two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars each, which is amazing. Pay us. Okay,
the owners could wear the same T shirts and be like,
we want a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars refund
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back into Clay and Bucks. Nothing pretty cool over the weekend.
That just popped up on my radar. I didn't show
this out an account called Turbine Traveler. It is about
twenty five thousand followers. He shared a video from nineteen
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sixty three of Lieutenant James Flatley making history by landing
a k C one thirty f hercules, the largest and
heaviest aircraft ever to perform unarrested, full stop landings and
unassisted takeoffs on the USS Forestal. So Lieutenant James Flatley,
test pilot, Naval ace and now Admiral Flatley, I just
(16:31):
want to tip my hat to him, Clay. He is
my grandfather in law, my wife's grandfather, and I hope
he might be listening and we'll send him this. But
pretty cool people didn't realize this. This video up at
Clayandbuck dot com of then Lieutenant now Admiral Flatley landing
on a on the USS Forestal with a C one
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thirty hercules, the first and only aviator to ever accomplish that.
Pretty cool the video, Yes, I saw the video. The
video is really really cool. If you want to to
check that out, it's up at Clayanbuck dot com. And
you're gonna have to. I mean, all the men you're
gonna have to learn how to fly, I mean, all
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the men in your carry side of the family are
super badass navel and and and fighter pilots and everything else.
And meanwhile, I mean you're just sitting back in the plane,
no idea what's going on. I don't. I don't even
like when I'm on commercial and the seats touching my
knees in front of me, you know what I mean.
I'm not really I'm not really made for like real
(17:35):
real daring do up in the sky. That's not really
my thing. So I very appreciative of those who do it. Though,
no doubt, we come, we come back. We'll take some
of your talkbacks. We'll also have some fun with the
w NBA players saying pay us what you owe us
and what they would actually be out. A lot of
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(20:06):
majority of their content, and so we want to be
everywhere they are. Okay, Buck, I saw this and saw
the connection between the two, and I think it actually
ties in with the lefs economic illiteracy. We talked about
Colbert Guys losing forty million dollars a year on his show.
Show costs over one hundred million dollars a year. He
(20:28):
is being paid either fifteen or twenty million dollars a year,
and they announced that they're going to cancel it, and
immediately Democrats are up in arms. Over the weekend, similar
situation happens. WNBA All Star Game is going on in Indianapolis.
The girls in the WNBA that play on the teams,
the women walk out in pay us what You Owe
(20:49):
Us t shirts. The WNBA, according to the New York Post,
is on track to lose forty million dollars this year.
That means if WNBA plays were paid what they make
they would actually owe all of the owners around two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars each. That is, instead of
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being paid, they would actually need to pay the owners
of the WNBA franchises two hundred and fifty thousand dollars each.
To me, the connection here is the WNBA is the
most left wing I think it's fair to say sports
organization in America right now that is unfortunate because they're
alienating a ton of the fan base that they suddenly have.
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But much like with Stephen Colbert, there is a belief
in sort of fantasy economics that you should be paid
vast sums of money even though you're making no money.
And I think it ties in with the larger issues
that democrats have in general, because there used to be
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a lot of Democrats in positions of power that had
some knowledge of basic economics, had worked largely in business,
understood how capitalism works. Now you have a lot of
AOC's a lot of people out there who say, oh,
when the news comes out that Amazon wants to locate
a huge headquarters. I believe it was in Queens. You'll
(22:17):
probably remember this better than I did. To Pacific location.
They say, oh, we can't be giving all of these
dollars away, And they don't even understand how tax abatements
and tax credits work. They think that actual dollars of
cash and taxpayer dollars are being given. And as a result,
(22:38):
the job situation in many of these blue cities and
blue states is deteriorating. You sent me over the weekend
in an outburger. Their president is moving to where I
live in Franklin, Tennessee. Now, my wife says all the time, Hey,
don't tell people how nice. Franklin is getting too full.
(23:00):
We should never move here. It is awful. And I
have a friend out there who says that there are
fifteen thousand apartment in housing units being built in the
next five years in Franklin already, something like something like, really,
we don't want you to come. It's awful. I don't
know how anybody could ever have a good time here.
I don't know how you could raise a family. We
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know we're struggling as best we can to make do
with what we have here in Franklin, Tennessee. But I
did think it was interesting. She was specifically asked in
that interview, why are you leaving California? She said, it
just became too difficult. Now they still have offices in California,
but they're opening up what's being called in East Coast
headquarters in Franklin, Tennessee, which is about twenty miles south
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of Nashville, for those of you who don't know the geography.
And I do think this is starting to happen everywhere.
And what connects all these stories is a inability to
understand basic business, how paychecks work, how people make money
for the labor they produce. And I do think that
it is making it incredibly difficult for Democrats to dig
(24:06):
themselves out of the hole. Do you see that connection
with Colbert and the WNBA. It's like this fantastical world
where you don't have to have any economic understanding of
how your boss makes money and you just expect the
money truly grows on trees.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, and also the Democrats took over a lot of
corporations that were built over a very long time by
people who were not Communists. And whether it was infiltration
through HR first and then the C suite later when
DEI concerns were directing a lot of hiring. Even at
the most senior levels, you have people who It's a
(24:41):
bit like the California situation where Gavin Newsom takes over
a beautiful state that's incredibly rich with a ton of
people and says, I'm not screwing it up. Look at
how rich and beautiful this place is. Well, yeah, but
everything you're doing is making it worse. It's true of
companies and media entities as well. A lot of these
sixty minutes people are saying is in trouble. There are
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a lot of these old media institutions that are I
don't even know who owns these things anymore, right, there's
all these mergers and moving around, and but what you
find out is that news used to be they used
to go for news class. I understand that a place
like ABC, they were just hoping it was revenue neutral.
So they've always been something of a corporate hobby horse
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in some of these places. But there's a that's for
the news only side of things. Late night shows used
to be wildly profitable. Late night shows should be making
it should be cash cows. And what you're finding is
that when people have more options and more choice, and
I also think even more familiarity with who these individuals
are on these shows, what you find is that they
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can't justify these enormous salaries and these tremendous corporate expenditures,
and the world where the Democrats can count on have
total airway dominance handed to them like like built in
that world is evaporating very quickly, and that's a good thing. Finally,
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now with the break it actually was particularly bad for
a while with the Internet because they had locked down
the major Internet, major Internet social media sites and you
know Netflix in these places are still pretty big problems,
but Clay, we're seeing a change in the ability of
it's not even just republic inter Conservatives just same voices
(26:34):
to break through and they can't get away with the
same kind of nonsense. Yeah, I've loved so. I think
I said this on the show last week. If you
had told me when I was fourteen years old or
thirteen years old, hey, you get to pick any media
job in the world to have, I probably would have said, hey,
SportsCenter anchor or late night TV host, because I thought, hey,
(26:56):
those are two of the best jobs that are out there.
Sports center anc basically doesn't exist now because then the
highlights of sports are widely distributed. Nobody sits and watches it. Anyway,
Sports Center and I and he and Dan Patrick. Back
in the day, I would wake up Buck, I would
(27:16):
eat my cereal while I was getting ready to go
off to school, and I would have on Sports Center,
because back in the day you might not know who
won the late night games. And I would sit there
and I would eat my cereal and I would just think, Man,
these guys are so funny. They're having such a good time.
This is like the best job that's ever existed late
night Again, I understand every kid, including my own. Now
(27:38):
the summers are completely packed. You have one hundred and
sixty eight different camps that your kids go to for
a variety of sports or dance or whatever they're into.
I just set it home, uh, And I had this
huge amount of time, didn't have a license yet, and
watched and read and I was just kind of on
my own. And late night television you still love it.
(27:59):
But to me, what's interesting is when you think about
what late night television show happened and why the collapse
in business occurred. Comedy specials are now everywhere. I remember
back in the day, we used to pass around like
Eddie Murphy Raw or Eddie Murphy, you know, like the
VHS cassette tapes of the relatively few people who got
(28:20):
HBO specials, and you would watch them, but they weren't
very common, and some people, some of you, probably had
cassette discs of old school maybe CDs of old school
comedy specials. It was not easy to get a comedy special.
Now they're everywhere you get on Netflix, and there's trending
comedy specials and you can watch any number of comics
(28:40):
on any given night. And then the podcast long form
interview has a lot of celebrities. Instead of sitting for
five minute, sort of lame interviews to promote their movies,
they now do longer form interviews if they're reasonably intelligent people.
There just is no late night TV audience. I think
it could have existed probably for another decade if they
(29:01):
hadn't gone political. But the entire concept of that show
has been exploded and it now has gone into a
bunch of different pieces. And I do think that you're
seeing a dynamic reordering of who people trust, and I
think all that matters. My theory here is authenticity, not
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expectation that you're going to agree with everybody, not expectation
that you're going to have the exact same opinion on
every issue, but just hey, are they telling me something
that is true? And I think the reason radio continues
to have a lot of cogency is you can't fake it.
Cannot fake three hours a day of radio for better
or worse. We are what you think we would be,
(29:45):
and that can be good or bad. But I think
the late shows they faked it a long time and
as a result, going super woke and getting blown up
I think is fascinating. I think WNBA has got major
issues with not understanding basic economics. Take it for so
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Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, we're closing up shot today on Clay and Buck.
Just a programming note. I'm gonna be out Thursday Friday.
Clay will be rocking solo with you, so that'll be
a lot of fun. I'm actually gonna be up in
New York City for my dad's birthday, which will be
a nice time with the family. Looking forward to it.
And also I want to talk to all of you
now while we can. We got a few minutes here,
(31:58):
Let's see talkbacks. Let's get some talkbacks. We have JJ
Robin who listens on news radio WFLA and Tampa play it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Hey, guys, this is Robin from the Tampa Bay area.
You're talking about Hunter. Well, considering he most likely was
part of who was running the White House, he probably
feels that he's entitled to it. Typical Biden. Great job, guys, We.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Love you well, Thank you. And look, Clay, I know
you don't think it's a high probability that Hunter's gonna
win anything, But would Hunter actually run for something? It's
tough to You can never overestimate a true megalomaniac's ability
or a true egomaniac, I mean an egomaniac's ability to
(32:48):
live in a delusion, So who knows well, I think,
especially if you add in the drug and alcohol abuse
that likely destroyed many parts of his brain that are
engaged in sam in rational thinking. Because this interview that
he did is so outrageous and outlandish that I can't
help but think in his demented worldview, he sees himself
(33:12):
as the hero that could rescue his family. I'm not
saying I sign on to it. I think it's crazy,
but that's the kind of thought that leads someone to
learn to decide to run for office. Is it Melbourne, Florida.
That's how it's pronounced right, Melbourne Melbourne, I think is
what people say Melbourne. Yeah, I'm crossed over because I
(33:32):
actually went there in Australia and they pronounced it Melbourne,
which I don't understand. But kk Dan wants to ask
you a question. I don't know the answer to this.
Good question, Hey, Buck, how did Flatley get that airplane
back off the carrier? Just curious? I do not know
(33:52):
how Lieutenant Flatley carries Grandpa. I don't know did he
take off I mean to get I mean that's or
did they just have to go into into harbor? And
like that's a great question, But now you've got a
question to follow up with. Yeah, how you could land
that thing? I mean, just keep in mind sometimes it's
tricky to land an incredibly nimble you know, like F
(34:15):
F sixteen or F fourteen Tomcat or F sixteen or
F eighteen, you know, air carrier aircraft carrier landings. I've
obviously never done one, but from the various members of
my in laws who have done this, it's not an
easy thing. When you've got a small nimble plane, the
biggest plane in the world at the time would be
quite a challenge, and your your margin for air very small.
(34:37):
Haven't we lost like just three airplanes on aircraft carriers
that accidentally went off and some Yeah, I mean in
recent history here, just recently, I mean we people people
lose their lives because of aircraft, particularly on landing is
really tough. So yeah, Danny and Sacramento listening to us
(34:57):
out there on KFBK, which got for us, Danny.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday edition
of the program. I appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. Lots of different stories we have been talking about.
It is the one year anniversary of Joe Biden announcing
that he was going to be dropping out of the race,
and for some reason, Hunter Biden has decided to step
(00:22):
himself into the midst of all of these different stories.
By the way, one bit of bad news that is
starting to circulate for those of you who grew up
or as adults watched The Cosby Show Malcolm Jamal Warner,
that is THEO from The Cosby Show dead according to
(00:45):
TMZ of a potential they're saying drowning. But for those
of you out there who grew up in the nineteen
eighties or raised kids in the nineteen eighties Cosby Show,
very popular show, and THEO on The Cosby Show one
of the most popular characters on that show fifty four
years old in that in that outcome awful situation in general. Okay,
(01:12):
I wanted to play a couple of these buck and
then we're going to dive into the Colvert story, which
I think is really worthy of discussing in many ways,
but we talked about a lot of different aspects of
the decision by Joe Biden to drop out. Here is
Hunter Biden going off on George Clooney, James Carvel and
(01:33):
other Democrats for helping to oust his dad. Cut thirty.
Listen to this, lots of expletives bleeped. I hope we
caught him all here.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It is Jim and everybody around him. I don't have
to be nice. Number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino.
George Plooney is not an actor. He is a I
don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by
the way, and God bless him, you know what. He's fuzzily,
treats his friends really well, and he's great friends with
Barack Olama. You what do you have to do with anything?
(02:02):
Why do I have to listen to you? What right
do you have to step on a man who's given
fifty two years of his life to the services of
this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are going
to take out basically a full page ad in New
York Times to me and James Carville, who hasn't run
a race in forty years, and David Axelrod who had
won success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama.
(02:24):
And that was because of Barack Obama, not because of
David Axelrod and David Pluff and all of these guys.
They're all going to insert their judgment over a man
who has figured out, unlike anybody else, how to get
elected to the United States Senate over seven times, how
to pass more legislation than any president in history, how
to have a better midterm election than anybody in history,
and how to garner more votes than any president that
(02:46):
has ever wruon. And they're going to replace their judgment
for his.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, why is Hunter suddenly doing all of this media book.
I'll give you my theory. You tell me if you
sign on or if this is crazy. I think Hunter
is testing the ground to potentially run for political office.
I love it when you do. When you go now,
now I get to say, you're out of your mind.
(03:10):
That's the good. I just why else your Pennsylvania monument idea?
Very smart, very good idea. I have to say this
is this is Clay throwing one into the end zone
and now they're running it back for a pick six.
My friend, this is this is just crazy talk. I
don't understand why he would be suddenly breaking all of
his political silence. Now you can say, okay, well, he's
(03:31):
just gonna try to defend his dad because he thinks
his dad has been attacked too much and nobody else
is publicly doing it. Okay, but if you were going
to do that, do you do it in these podcasts
where there's your do I think Hunter sees himself this
is not what I am signing on to. I think
Hunter actually believes that he's super smart, that he's strategically brilliant,
(03:54):
and that I think Hunter in some way has convinced
himself that his dad is both of those things too,
and that he is the Biden legacy that can defend
his dad going forward. And so this is I'm trying
to analyze why in the world this would happen. Let
me else, you play this for you. We talked about
why June twenty seventh was so bad, and I came
(04:16):
on and said, and somebody can go pull it on
the team. I'm pretty sure, I said. The House of
Card story here would be that usually he gets a
drug shot, right that would be an upper and instead
of giving him the Upper. They gave him the Downer instead,
and so what allowed him to go out at the
State of the Union. I think beyond the shadow of
(04:38):
a doubt they would shoot him up with stuff. Is
suddenly they did the opposite. Hunter Biden came out and
basically said this. He said they had him on ambion.
That's why he was performing so poorly at the debate.
Listen to this.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew
around the world basically, and the mileage that he could
have flown around the world three times. Yeah, he's eighty
one years old, he's tired of give him ambient.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
To be able to sleep.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He gets up on the stage and he looks like
he's a deer in the headlights.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So I think that all of this is very interesting.
My theory again House of Card style, for those of
you who remember the television show, is it would have
been an episode where they give him a shot and
instead of the Upper, it's the Downer, and he goes
out and his political career is over. To say, hey,
he was taken ambient because he wasn't having trouble sleeping.
They were trying to get his energy back. Up. This
(05:31):
is why I've never taken an ambient, by the way,
because it feels like every time I get on an
airplane to go anywhere, I have to wake up and
work the next day, and I'm always afraid that the
ambient will linger. I don't know how many people take ambient.
I've never taken it, but that I won't have the
energy I need to be able to do my job.
But this is now taking over the news cycle. Hunter
(05:51):
Biden has decided to parachute in cannonball style right into
otherwise quiet season of summer vacation time, and now, well,
this is going to be leading everything. Even seeing in
an MSNBC, I think I don't know Hunter Biden. I
just I can't bring myself to think that this is
(06:13):
going to be anything that anyone really goes with or
cares about very much. The guy's a mess, and the
guy was always a giant drag on his father's political fortunes,
and his dad was a jerk and a fraud. So
I think that he's a baby and he's acting out.
I don't see this as any kind of strategic move.
I think this is just a former drug addict and
(06:37):
spoiled Bratt throwing a tantrum on podcast that'll have him
for attention. I don't. I don't think there is a
higher move. By the way, If you are right and
he does end up running for office, I don't know.
I don't know what's happened in the world, but that
would be that would be the most outrageous call anyone's
ever made. So I'm not working down. I'm not saying
that he would be a good candidate. I actually would
(06:58):
like for him to run. I would just if he
just ran, you get and he could get smoked and
get one percent of the vote, and I would still say,
your call here is astonishing, because Clay, the first fifty
people that I would walk past on the street here
in Miami are better suited to any political office than Hunter.
Biden is the first random fifty people that I see,
(07:19):
without exception, I could just pick the first fifty people
I walked past. I think that he likely has bought
into the idea again that he is the smartest man
Joe Biden's ever known, that he has unique political talents, gifts.
I'm not saying that it's irrational, reasonable, or in any
way reflected in reality. I just think this is the
kind of thing that ultimately ends up someone decides to run.
(07:42):
I hope he does, all right. Second part here, we
mentioned this because the news was breaking basically when we
were on the air. If I remember correctly that we
had on Friday, I think news came out or I
guess it was Thursday night, whatever it was. That Colbert
was being anseled, and his final guest before the cancelation
(08:04):
announcement or was Adam Schiff, which was perfect. I'm surprised
at the degree to which Democrats have lined up to
argue that this is unacceptable, and I want to hit
you with a couple of stats because I was reading
a lot about this over the weekend. First of all,
the Colbert Report costs over one hundred million dollars to air,
(08:29):
one hundred million dollars for a TV show. My jaw
dropped when I saw that. Now there's different reports that
Colbert made either fifteen or twenty million dollars, and the
show was losing forty million dollars, so it was a
very unsuccessful business enterprise. Democrats have uniformly lined up to say, hey,
(08:54):
this is CBS trying to curry favor with Trump. I
just look at it and say, I can't imagine being
on a show that loses forty million dollars a year,
and when the show gets canceled, the argument being, Hey,
this is all political. This is an example of how totalitarianism,
how fascism spreads. We got some audio of this I
(09:17):
want to play, but I want us to be able
to react because we know a little bit of something
about doing media. This is Senator Chris Murphy saying, we're
on the precipice of entering a censorship state. Listen to
cut thirty two.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I want to tell you why the cancelation of Stephen
Colbert's show matters so much. We are on the precipice
of entering a censorship state in which Donald Trump is
using the powers of the federal government in order to
erase criticism from the airwaves. What's happening at CBS right
now is bone chilling. Stephen Colbert didn't get thrown off
(09:52):
the air because he wasn't doing well.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He was the highest.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Rated show on TV in late night. He was canceled
very likely because Paramount and its owners are trying to
get rich off of this merger, and Donald Trump has
made it clear to them and everybody else in the
media space that if you want any favors from me,
then you have to silence my critics on your platforms.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Delusional. His whole analysis is delusional. Stephen Colbert destroyed not
just the Tonight Show or the Late Show, which went
to the Late Show Tonight Show, Late Show. Yeah, Late
Show destroyed the Late Show, but he destroyed Late Night's comedy.
I think because he created a dynamic where the other
(10:36):
guys all also followed in with their anti Trump madness
and just brought the whole thing down. It's kind of
what happened at CNN, similar what happened over at CNN
where the hosts that we're rating in twenty sixteen were
the hosts who were anti Trump twenty four to seven.
Believe it or not, Don Lemon was the top rated
CNN host for a while in the demo, top rated
across the entire channel. Why every night was just oh
(10:58):
my gosh, Donald Trump, Donald Trump is so evil, and
that was working for a little bit, but then the
rest of the channel followed suit and they destroyed the
whole thing. Clay the reason they're all going in to
defend Colbert, and it's pretty indefensible considering how expensive. First
of all, why wouldn't Colbert say, you know what, I'm
not worth fifteen million dollars a year or twenty million
dollars a year, whatever it is. We're gonna need to
tighten our belts here, and I'm going to take a
(11:20):
smaller salary because i want this to endure, and i
want my staff to have jobs, and I'm willing to
take a pay cut, you know, still make five or
ten million dollars a year so that we can be
more sustainable going forward. No, he's greedy. He's greedy, and
he's a jerk, and he wasn't worth the money they
were paying him. It's absurd that they were doing this,
running forty million dollars a year in the red. It's
(11:42):
crazy that money is coming from somewhere else, right, So
something else in that corporation that's making money has to subsidize,
kind of like the WNBA has has to be subsidized
by that. And you sit here and clay the real
problem they have with Colbert's cancelation, the stuff where they're
pretending it's Trump. I mean, it's just childish, it's babyish.
They're losing some of their favorite toys. Though. The Democrats,
(12:05):
whether it's NPR, it's you know, the dominance of the
of the late programs with anti Trump Democrat voices. They're
losing some of the built in advantages that they have,
They're losing some of the legacy media dominance that they've enjoyed,
and it makes them very nervous because without cheating, they
can't win. I also think it's a cautionary tale, and
(12:29):
I would love I mean, if you can think of one,
let me know. I think the question of can you
name somebody out there that has gone woke that has
ultimately ended up benefiting you know, bud Light has not,
the NBA has not. The WNBA seems to think that
the woke universe still exists. Colbert certainly didn't. Everybody who
(12:52):
followed Colbert did not. I think that what you will
soon see is ABC will probably move on, INNBC will
move on. I don't know how long it's gonna take
for late night television basically to collapse everywhere. But if
the highest rated show is losing forty million dollars a year,
I can't believe that the cost structure for ABC and
(13:13):
NBC shows are that much different. Who benefited from going woke,
even Ben and Jerry's ice cream, which has been a
left wing basically communist ice cream. Interestingly, from the founding,
who is the over the hill football player who took
the knee? He benefited Colin Kaepernick. Yeah for a little while,
but then even that blew up on him. Yeah, he
(13:34):
benefited from that era because E didn't his era would
have been over beforehand. I just I don't know who
the winners are coming out of this, and I think
what you're seeing is actually just the return to sanity,
and I think it ties in. Let's talk about that
WNBA situation, because I think the women in the WNBA
showing up and pay us what you owe us. Their
(13:56):
league lost forty million dollars last year. Not dissimilar to
Stephen Colbert when your business is losing money and you
are arguing that you are owed way more money. I
do not think that the average American out there thinks
that you deserve to be paid. In fact, the numbers
are if the WNBA had to pay to re sign
(14:18):
up for what they're actually losing, every player would owe
the league two hundred and fifty thousand dollars instead of
being paid to play. They would actually owe two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars each, which is amazing. Pay us. Okay,
the owners could wear the same T shirts and be like,
we want a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars refund
from you guys for allowing you to play. We'll talk
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back into Clay and Bucks. Nothing pretty cool over the weekend.
That just popped up on my radar. I didn't show
this out an account called Turbine Traveler. It is about
twenty five thousand followers. He shared a video from nineteen
(16:07):
sixty three of Lieutenant James Flatley making history by landing
a k C one thirty f hercules, the largest and
heaviest aircraft ever to perform unarrested, full stop landings and
unassisted takeoffs on the USS Forestal. So Lieutenant James Flatley,
test pilot, Naval ace and now Admiral Flatley, I just
(16:31):
want to tip my hat to him, Clay. He is
my grandfather in law, my wife's grandfather, and I hope
he might be listening and we'll send him this. But
pretty cool people didn't realize this. This video up at
Clayandbuck dot com of then Lieutenant now Admiral Flatley landing
on a on the USS Forestal with a C one
(16:53):
thirty hercules, the first and only aviator to ever accomplish that.
Pretty cool the video, Yes, I saw the video. The
video is really really cool. If you want to to
check that out, it's up at Clayanbuck dot com. And
you're gonna have to. I mean, all the men you're
gonna have to learn how to fly, I mean, all
(17:14):
the men in your carry side of the family are
super badass navel and and and fighter pilots and everything else.
And meanwhile, I mean you're just sitting back in the plane,
no idea what's going on. I don't. I don't even
like when I'm on commercial and the seats touching my
knees in front of me, you know what I mean.
I'm not really I'm not really made for like real
(17:35):
real daring do up in the sky. That's not really
my thing. So I very appreciative of those who do it. Though,
no doubt, we come, we come back. We'll take some
of your talkbacks. We'll also have some fun with the
w NBA players saying pay us what you owe us
and what they would actually be out. A lot of
people waiting in on Colbert as well. All that headed
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majority of their content, and so we want to be
everywhere they are. Okay, Buck, I saw this and saw
the connection between the two, and I think it actually
ties in with the lefs economic illiteracy. We talked about
Colbert Guys losing forty million dollars a year on his show.
Show costs over one hundred million dollars a year. He
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is being paid either fifteen or twenty million dollars a year,
and they announced that they're going to cancel it, and
immediately Democrats are up in arms. Over the weekend, similar
situation happens. WNBA All Star Game is going on in Indianapolis.
The girls in the WNBA that play on the teams,
the women walk out in pay us what You Owe
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Us t shirts. The WNBA, according to the New York Post,
is on track to lose forty million dollars this year.
That means if WNBA plays were paid what they make
they would actually owe all of the owners around two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars each. That is, instead of
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being paid, they would actually need to pay the owners
of the WNBA franchises two hundred and fifty thousand dollars each.
To me, the connection here is the WNBA is the
most left wing I think it's fair to say sports
organization in America right now that is unfortunate because they're
alienating a ton of the fan base that they suddenly have.
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But much like with Stephen Colbert, there is a belief
in sort of fantasy economics that you should be paid
vast sums of money even though you're making no money.
And I think it ties in with the larger issues
that democrats have in general, because there used to be
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a lot of Democrats in positions of power that had
some knowledge of basic economics, had worked largely in business,
understood how capitalism works. Now you have a lot of
AOC's a lot of people out there who say, oh,
when the news comes out that Amazon wants to locate
a huge headquarters. I believe it was in Queens. You'll
(22:17):
probably remember this better than I did. To Pacific location.
They say, oh, we can't be giving all of these
dollars away, And they don't even understand how tax abatements
and tax credits work. They think that actual dollars of
cash and taxpayer dollars are being given. And as a result,
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the job situation in many of these blue cities and
blue states is deteriorating. You sent me over the weekend
in an outburger. Their president is moving to where I
live in Franklin, Tennessee. Now, my wife says all the time, Hey,
don't tell people how nice. Franklin is getting too full.
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We should never move here. It is awful. And I
have a friend out there who says that there are
fifteen thousand apartment in housing units being built in the
next five years in Franklin already, something like something like, really,
we don't want you to come. It's awful. I don't
know how anybody could ever have a good time here.
I don't know how you could raise a family. We
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know we're struggling as best we can to make do
with what we have here in Franklin, Tennessee. But I
did think it was interesting. She was specifically asked in
that interview, why are you leaving California? She said, it
just became too difficult. Now they still have offices in California,
but they're opening up what's being called in East Coast
headquarters in Franklin, Tennessee, which is about twenty miles south
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of Nashville, for those of you who don't know the geography.
And I do think this is starting to happen everywhere.
And what connects all these stories is a inability to
understand basic business, how paychecks work, how people make money
for the labor they produce. And I do think that
it is making it incredibly difficult for Democrats to dig
(24:06):
themselves out of the hole. Do you see that connection
with Colbert and the WNBA. It's like this fantastical world
where you don't have to have any economic understanding of
how your boss makes money and you just expect the
money truly grows on trees.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, and also the Democrats took over a lot of
corporations that were built over a very long time by
people who were not Communists. And whether it was infiltration
through HR first and then the C suite later when
DEI concerns were directing a lot of hiring. Even at
the most senior levels, you have people who It's a
(24:41):
bit like the California situation where Gavin Newsom takes over
a beautiful state that's incredibly rich with a ton of
people and says, I'm not screwing it up. Look at
how rich and beautiful this place is. Well, yeah, but
everything you're doing is making it worse. It's true of
companies and media entities as well. A lot of these
sixty minutes people are saying is in trouble. There are
(25:03):
a lot of these old media institutions that are I
don't even know who owns these things anymore, right, there's
all these mergers and moving around, and but what you
find out is that news used to be they used
to go for news class. I understand that a place
like ABC, they were just hoping it was revenue neutral.
So they've always been something of a corporate hobby horse
(25:27):
in some of these places. But there's a that's for
the news only side of things. Late night shows used
to be wildly profitable. Late night shows should be making
it should be cash cows. And what you're finding is
that when people have more options and more choice, and
I also think even more familiarity with who these individuals
are on these shows, what you find is that they
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can't justify these enormous salaries and these tremendous corporate expenditures,
and the world where the Democrats can count on have
total airway dominance handed to them like like built in
that world is evaporating very quickly, and that's a good thing. Finally,
(26:12):
now with the break it actually was particularly bad for
a while with the Internet because they had locked down
the major Internet, major Internet social media sites and you
know Netflix in these places are still pretty big problems,
but Clay, we're seeing a change in the ability of
it's not even just republic inter Conservatives just same voices
(26:34):
to break through and they can't get away with the
same kind of nonsense. Yeah, I've loved so. I think
I said this on the show last week. If you
had told me when I was fourteen years old or
thirteen years old, hey, you get to pick any media
job in the world to have, I probably would have said, hey,
SportsCenter anchor or late night TV host, because I thought, hey,
(26:56):
those are two of the best jobs that are out there.
Sports center anc basically doesn't exist now because then the
highlights of sports are widely distributed. Nobody sits and watches it. Anyway,
Sports Center and I and he and Dan Patrick. Back
in the day, I would wake up Buck, I would
(27:16):
eat my cereal while I was getting ready to go
off to school, and I would have on Sports Center,
because back in the day you might not know who
won the late night games. And I would sit there
and I would eat my cereal and I would just think, Man,
these guys are so funny. They're having such a good time.
This is like the best job that's ever existed late
night Again, I understand every kid, including my own. Now
(27:38):
the summers are completely packed. You have one hundred and
sixty eight different camps that your kids go to for
a variety of sports or dance or whatever they're into.
I just set it home, uh, And I had this
huge amount of time, didn't have a license yet, and
watched and read and I was just kind of on
my own. And late night television you still love it.
(27:59):
But to me, what's interesting is when you think about
what late night television show happened and why the collapse
in business occurred. Comedy specials are now everywhere. I remember
back in the day, we used to pass around like
Eddie Murphy Raw or Eddie Murphy, you know, like the
VHS cassette tapes of the relatively few people who got
(28:20):
HBO specials, and you would watch them, but they weren't
very common, and some people, some of you, probably had
cassette discs of old school maybe CDs of old school
comedy specials. It was not easy to get a comedy special.
Now they're everywhere you get on Netflix, and there's trending
comedy specials and you can watch any number of comics
(28:40):
on any given night. And then the podcast long form
interview has a lot of celebrities. Instead of sitting for
five minute, sort of lame interviews to promote their movies,
they now do longer form interviews if they're reasonably intelligent people.
There just is no late night TV audience. I think
it could have existed probably for another decade if they
(29:01):
hadn't gone political. But the entire concept of that show
has been exploded and it now has gone into a
bunch of different pieces. And I do think that you're
seeing a dynamic reordering of who people trust, and I
think all that matters. My theory here is authenticity, not
(29:22):
expectation that you're going to agree with everybody, not expectation
that you're going to have the exact same opinion on
every issue, but just hey, are they telling me something
that is true? And I think the reason radio continues
to have a lot of cogency is you can't fake it.
Cannot fake three hours a day of radio for better
or worse. We are what you think we would be,
(29:45):
and that can be good or bad. But I think
the late shows they faked it a long time and
as a result, going super woke and getting blown up
I think is fascinating. I think WNBA has got major
issues with not understanding basic economics. Take it for so
one with a law degree, you want to have a
will or trust if you're out there right now and
you got younger kids, or you got grandkids, and you
(30:08):
are already trying to deal with their disagreements, thinking about
how Thanksgiving is going to be set up in a
few months, not that far away now, and you're worried
about what might happen when you're gone with maybe your house,
maybe your car. Maybe it's just a couple of bank
accounts you got, and you know, maybe it's things that
really matter to you that are family prize possessions that
are inside of the house. You know, your kids are
(30:29):
going to fight over it. Why not go ahead and
solve it once and for all and do a will
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Speaker 1 (31:36):
All right, we're closing up shot today on Clay and Buck.
Just a programming note. I'm gonna be out Thursday Friday.
Clay will be rocking solo with you, so that'll be
a lot of fun. I'm actually gonna be up in
New York City for my dad's birthday, which will be
a nice time with the family. Looking forward to it.
And also I want to talk to all of you
now while we can. We got a few minutes here,
(31:58):
Let's see talkbacks. Let's get some talkbacks. We have JJ
Robin who listens on news radio WFLA and Tampa play it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Hey, guys, this is Robin from the Tampa Bay area.
You're talking about Hunter. Well, considering he most likely was
part of who was running the White House, he probably
feels that he's entitled to it. Typical Biden. Great job, guys, We.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Love you well, Thank you. And look, Clay, I know
you don't think it's a high probability that Hunter's gonna
win anything, But would Hunter actually run for something? It's
tough to You can never overestimate a true megalomaniac's ability
or a true egomaniac, I mean an egomaniac's ability to
(32:48):
live in a delusion, So who knows well, I think,
especially if you add in the drug and alcohol abuse
that likely destroyed many parts of his brain that are
engaged in sam in rational thinking. Because this interview that
he did is so outrageous and outlandish that I can't
help but think in his demented worldview, he sees himself
(33:12):
as the hero that could rescue his family. I'm not
saying I sign on to it. I think it's crazy,
but that's the kind of thought that leads someone to
learn to decide to run for office. Is it Melbourne, Florida.
That's how it's pronounced right, Melbourne Melbourne, I think is
what people say Melbourne. Yeah, I'm crossed over because I
(33:32):
actually went there in Australia and they pronounced it Melbourne,
which I don't understand. But kk Dan wants to ask
you a question. I don't know the answer to this.
Good question, Hey, Buck, how did Flatley get that airplane
back off the carrier? Just curious? I do not know
(33:52):
how Lieutenant Flatley carries Grandpa. I don't know did he
take off I mean to get I mean that's or
did they just have to go into into harbor? And
like that's a great question, But now you've got a
question to follow up with. Yeah, how you could land
that thing? I mean, just keep in mind sometimes it's
tricky to land an incredibly nimble you know, like F
(34:15):
F sixteen or F fourteen Tomcat or F sixteen or
F eighteen, you know, air carrier aircraft carrier landings. I've
obviously never done one, but from the various members of
my in laws who have done this, it's not an
easy thing. When you've got a small nimble plane, the
biggest plane in the world at the time would be
quite a challenge, and your your margin for air very small.
(34:37):
Haven't we lost like just three airplanes on aircraft carriers
that accidentally went off and some Yeah, I mean in
recent history here, just recently, I mean we people people
lose their lives because of aircraft, particularly on landing is
really tough. So yeah, Danny and Sacramento listening to us
(34:57):
out there on KFBK, which got for us, Danny.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
It looks like that the universe has exchanged the late
great Maha Rushi America's truth detector to carry on the
legacy of that he created, to place him with the
two greatest truth detectors for America and that is buck
(35:23):
Sexton and Clay Travis many many years of success.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's it's super very nice. We're four years in. Things
have gone very well since. Certainly we feel privileged every
single day to get to talk to all of you.
By the way, talkbacks we're going to start. I was
talking with producer Ali about this because I love the
growth that we're seeing on YouTube, and I think this
is going to become a really powerful channel for this
(35:52):
show to continue to get the message out. Give us talkbacks.
We'll answer some of those occasionally on YouTube, and you
will get a YouTube specific version of the show. Can
be funny, right, We don't need necessarily deep dives, but
whatever you guys want to ask in the talkbacks will
include those. Do some responses and put them up for
(36:12):
YouTube subscribers in particular. Again, search us out go subscribe
YouTube dot com. You can type in Clay Travis buck Sexton,
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thousand subscribers. I want us going over one hundred as
rapidly as we can get there. It's a great distribution mechanism.
(36:34):
Audience growing rapidly there as well. We love all of you,
but back tomorrow fighting for truth to justice in the
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