June 11, 2024 • 36 mins
Biden, prosecutor react to Hunter verdict, repeat "nobody is above the law," talk about addiction. Biden speaks unintelligibly again. Caller on White House cocaine. Buck's longtime friend, Nathan Canestaro, intelligence professional and author of "The Mighty Moo" joins the show. Caller's father served on the Mighty Moo. Biden gives gun safety speech. Restaurant bans diners under 30.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour Clayan book kicks off right now, and we're
gonna give you the latest here on the Hunter Biden conviction. Guilty, guilty, guilty,
three counts And what is the media doing with this?
How are they trying to make sure there is the
bare minimum of political impact and also accountability for Hunter,
(00:24):
which I don't think this qualifies as accountability. It's just
he didn't manage to be entirely above the law for
the last decade or so. So I have to say
I think it's overall what I expected and said so here,
and the sentencing will probably happen. It's scheduled to be
(00:45):
likely around October. They will do everything they can to
make sure that there is no need for him to
actually show up to any prison cell. But I wanted
to because Hunter's gonna get pardoned by his dad. Just
remember I said this, He's gonna get pardoned by his dad.
You know what, I don't even know if you have
you know this too, right, We all know this. So
(01:06):
it's not like I'm making a prediction here, like, oh,
I think the son's gonna come up tomorrow. Yeah, Hunter's
gonna pardon his dad.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm sorry Joe is gonna pardon Hunter. If Hunter pardon
his dad, that would be amazing. Be worried, be worried
about the Biden family. So the way that they're trying
to spin this one, now you have jurors. For example,
this is on CNN. So if you want to go
to see what the Democrat quasi intelligenzia thinks about this
(01:39):
whole thing, you go on CNN and you see that, yes,
they have to report Hunter Biden guilty on all accounts,
because that's the obvious fact. But then they're saying the
juror says, the case seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars.
I really don't think Hunter belongs in jail. End quote.
I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. Do you think there
was anything like that when Trump was convicted of a
(02:05):
far more absurd, a far more absurd series of felonies,
thirty four felonies, guilty, guilty, guilty. Do you think cn
end was quoting any any experts, any juris, any anyone saying,
you know, I think this was kind of a mountain
out of a molehill situation in New York. And no,
(02:25):
of course, not of course not that is not not
the way that is, and also the way they write
this jury concluded Hunter Biden violated laws meant to prevent
drug addicts promoting firearms. Yeah, because the jury is not
completely idiotic. Of course he violated this law. And as
I've told you, I disagree with this law. But that's
(02:45):
put that aside. It is the law. I think it
should be. I think it should be adjusted. I think
it should be changed in a few ways. But the
President says, I'm just going down if you want to
see in real time, what are the talking points here?
You know, So it's it's gonna be the Hunter. It's
you know, sad, but he's facing accountability. No one is
above the law. Blah blah. Tragedy for the Biden family
(03:09):
once again, Sympathy for Joe Biden, sympathy for Hunter Biden,
because what else are they gonna do? Admit that the
Biden crime family is just that, a family full of crime.
I mean they should, but they're not going to do that.
And you have let me see. The President says he
is proud Hunter has conquered his battle against addiction, but
accepts the jury's guilty verdict. You also had Joe Biden
(03:35):
say something else? Do we have this? He was I
don't even know where he was, but just listening to
Joe Biden, this is a SoundBite we have. I have
absolutely no idea what he's saying. Here. Listen, he knows, so.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Long as he was nine, our can never be secured.
What can we?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Can? We play it again? This was Joe Biden giving
a public speech. He was here. I'll find where he was.
But this guy's the commander in chief. We're supposed to
believe he's ready to go, and he's totally sharp, totally
on it. No problem here, play it again.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He knows, so long as he was nine are freedom
can never be secured? What?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, I don't know. That doesn't matter. Sometimes the president's
just got to speaking total gibberish that's unintelligible to anybody else.
That's just the way it's got to be. They tell
us this has to be your candidate. I'm sorry, this
has to be your president again for four more years,
not just the candidate. And then I want to get
to this. This is cut twenty seven. It's a special
counsel David Weiss his version of events here, and then
(04:47):
I want to give you a different perspective on Hunter's
guilty verdict. Play it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
This case was not just about addiction.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
This case was about the illegal.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. Choice
to lie on a government form when he bought a gun,
and the choice to then possess that gun. It was
these choices and the combination of guns and drugs that
made his conduct dangerous. Second, no one in this country
is above the law. Everyone must be accountable for their actions,
(05:18):
even this defender. However, Hunter Biden should be no more
accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct.
The prosecution has been and will continue to be, committed
to this principle.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, so what does that mean? What are you going
to ask for prosecution? What do you think should happen
now that you have the conviction. I think that the
way the best put this with Hunter Biden is he's
not entirely above the law. I mean, he's mostly above
the law, but he's not entirely above the law. Ah,
(05:59):
you mean that he gets away with all the stuff
that would be politically damaging that they have cordoned off.
That is in a no that's a no go zone
for the prosecutors. Wait, you mean that Hunter was taking
millions of dollars from corrupt Ukrainian businessmen and from the
Chinese Communist Party through corporate cutouts. He was taking tens
(06:19):
of millions of dollars from these entities and getting his
dad to get on the phone to prove that he
had access to his dad. And clearly Joe Biden didn't
seem to have any problem with that. You mean to
tell me that that's there's nothing to see there. Oh,
and then he hid this, He hid that money. Why
would he hide that? Yeah, you could say just greed,
(06:40):
but yeah, I think it's more than that. I think
Hunter at some level realized, isn't amazing this guy? Team?
Didn't he go to Yale Law School? Am I? I
know this is a bit of a digression. Didn't Hunter
go to am I? Am I wrong on that one?
Did Hunter go to Yale Law school? Somebody? Because that
would just be too hilarious, wouldn't it. I mean, that's
(07:00):
part of what you see at these supposedly elite institutions.
They will take the the son or daughter of a
Democrat politician, any of them. If you are a if
your dad or mom is a famous Democrat politician, a Clinton,
A Biden and Obama, a Kennedy. Whatever. You get to
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pick what undergrad institution you go to, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford,
you know, whatever, you get to pick what graduate program
you get into. And you wonder, why, well, why do
these places have to suck up like there's the political celebrities. Guys,
am I right? Didn't he go to Yeale Law School? Yes?
He did.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yale Law School has like a two point seven percent
admission rate. It is, by the numbers, the hardest law
school to get into in America. And the place is
a joke, a joke. If any of you have children
who went there, went there yourself, I'm sure you did
incredibly well in school and worked very very hard. But
(08:03):
there were a lot of people who were there who
actually weren't impressive at all. They got in four reasons
of affirmative action, which Yell is very into. They got
in for reasons of they kind of accelerated or super
special legacy, which is being a political the scion of
a political dynasty or something else. But it's then a hunter.
(08:24):
Biden went to Yell Law School. That's great. He's such
a brilliant jurist. Oh, Hunter Biden, this is the guy
you want answering the phone when you have a tough question.
Who's your first call if you get arrested? Hunter Biden?
I mean, at least he could tell you what it's
like to be arrested, that's true, and probably tell you
where the best place is to get a whole lot
(08:45):
of illegal things too. But anyway, this is the this
is the Biden situation as it unfolds before us. They're
trying to make it about everything other than the big
issues that would cost Biden the election. I haven't even
gotten to the fact that a lot of was entirely real.
Everything on the laptop, right, this is all confirming this
verdict in part confirmed the photos on the laptop real,
(09:08):
the stuff on the laptop real, and right before the election,
one of the some of the most powerful media companies
on the planet, news and social media companies work to
shut it all down. They wanted they set us Russian disinformation,
and they want to tell you. They want to tell
(09:29):
you that they should still be able to shut things
down in this election for disinformation. Don't don't think that
they have backed off of that at all. We are
just in a new phase. Yeah, Hunter went to Georgetown
ninety two. That's funny. I think Clay's actually touring Georgetown
with his son that I got into Georgetown. I love
that school. I kind of my little brother went there.
(09:52):
I think that's a great, great choice for anybody. But
Yale Law that that's particularly funny. Yale Law in nineteen
ninety six, Hunter Biden oh Man. And you know, he
also does the finger paintings. Technically, I think there are
oil paintings, but I like to say finger paintings just
to mock it a little bit more. But he does
the paintings, which he sells for hundreds of thousands of dollars,
(10:14):
and we're not allowed to know who's buying those paintings.
That's not corrupt at all. Right, It's all just so gross. Biden,
Joe Biden, the Biden dynasty, it's all so unseemly. They
are such unethical individuals and always have been. Never mind
Joe's brother. I'vetan get into Joe's brother yet, who's a
(10:36):
business partner. A lot of this stuff, but they can't
run from it this time the same way they did
last time, or suppress it this time. The same way
they did last time, So it will be more of
a challenge for them going forward. But I think you'll
see I don't think you see the poll shift at
all on this, not one bit. Isn't this amazing? If
(10:58):
I had told you two years years ago? I mean,
you have to put yourself in that mindset that Donald
Trump will be convicted of thirty four felonies, Joe Biden's
son will be convicted of three felonies months before the election,
and the polls would show basically no change whatsoever. I mean,
that would have been quite a thing to say, right
It would have sounded like I was insane. Here we are,
(11:20):
here we are. I don't know. I wonder, I'm wondering
what you think about this. Does the conviction of Hunter
Biden make it more likely that there will be a
more severe which would really just mean some kind of,
you know, prison sentence, more severe punishment of Donald Trump?
In New York, judges can go above the guidelines and
(11:43):
they can decide to make an example of someone. Now,
it would be so brazen to do something like that
in New York to Donald Trump. But brazen hasn't stopped
them at all yet? Has it that they had a
I can't have what was the number, four hundred and
eighty million dollars in civil judgments against Donald Trump, four
(12:06):
felony trials all held to try to coincide at the
same time in the election year. I think anyone who
makes the argument that's a line they won't cross has
been wrong too many times to keep making that argument.
When it comes to the Democrats, what lines were they
not crossing? Again? So that may be a part of
this Hunter Biden conviction. That may be a component of
(12:30):
what we're seeing here. But for Democrats, as long as
they can wall off Joe Biden's corruption from Hunter, you know,
if he's got to go to the Big House for
a year or two, well, not going to happen, because
Dad's going to pardon him. But I'm talking about the sentence.
Even theoretically, if he got that sentence, I think they
wouldn't start it within a time period that would preclude
(12:53):
Joe Biden from just pardoning him. So it's a crazy
This is the craziest election. I do think we should
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cycle I think I've ever seen in my life, right,
I mean, I know, twenty sixteen got really nuts. In
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who was so good as as Colonel Tarltan And uh yeah,
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(16:34):
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this White House, I don't know, and I don't think
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people in the White House who weren't exactly on the
straight and narrow. Thanks for calling in, Tony, but a
fair point about how the most secure building in the
(17:08):
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Very please to have joining us a dear friend of
mine for twenty year from my time back in the government.
Nathan Kinnastero is with this. He is currently on assignment
to the National Intelligence Council. Twenty five years experience writing
about military operations for policymakers in the US government. His
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book is The Mighty Move, which I have for you
who can see it on the video live stream here
The Mighty Move. Nate, my man. Great to have you
on and congratulations of the book. I read it. It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well, thanks, Buck, I really do appreciate the opportunity to
be here. I'm glad you glad you enjoyed the book.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Tell me about what led you to write about the Mood,
you know, because it's funny. My grandfather, we actually have
some calls just so you know, Nate, we're not going
able to get you right now. We already have people
who have relatives who served on the Move who are
calling in just so you know. So that's fantastic. Yeah,
they're excited about this book. My grandfather served on the Batan,
one of these LVC carriers write these converted carriers tell
(19:58):
people about the origin of the Mighty Move.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I mean I got started looking into the Mighty
Movie because my grandfather served aboard, and you know, he was,
like a lot of men of his generation, he just
he didn't want to talk about the war, but he
would just sort of hints at some of the things
that had happened to him. Obviously, you know, he'd seen
some action and there'd been some trauma there.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But for a guy like me.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Who's interested in military history and he grew up with
band of brothers and you know, saving Private Ryan, the
idea that there was a story here that you know,
he wasn't telling me was kind of catnip and I
really wanted to look into it. So when he died
in twenty ten, I started, you know, sort of pulling
on that thread. And the story that I found was
I just kind of blew my mind, you know it
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It was a ship that the Navy didn't want, with
a captain who was nearly scapegoaded for loss of his
last command, that the crew had been in uniform barely
longer than the ship had been afloat, the pilots self
trained on the planes they'd fly into battle. And you know,
her first few months in service, she had this terrible jinks,
this awful streak of bad luck. And yet despite that,
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the ship that nobody expected that much from U went
on to a sort of earned a tremendous combat record,
survived a terrible typhoon, and ended up the only US
aircraft carrier in Tokyo Bay to see the Japanese surrender.
So it's it's it's quite an underdog story, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I remember my grandfather toward the end. He passed passed
away about a decade ago, but I remember one of
the only he spoke about being in a typhoon. Once again,
this was on the Batan, not the move, but also
the only time I ever talked, I ever heard him
really talk about combat. And Nate, it just he was
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he was in a wheelchair, he had a blanket and
you'll know this blanket that I got from Afghanistan, which
he always kind of treasured across his knees, you know.
And he started talking about combat in Leity Gulf, and
I know that, And and the Japanese swooping in and
trying to take out the carriers cowpens or the move
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rather mighty move was that latey?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yes, yes, And the same typhoon. You know, that was
what my grandfather spoke about. He wouldn't talk about the combat.
But you know, actually all the veterans I've talked to,
they were remaining from the move, they all said the
same thing. The typhoon just was the most terrifying bit
of their time aboard. You know, the ships were narrow,
they're tall, They've got a high center of gravity, so
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they're tippy. You know, they didn't do well in high seas.
And you're going into a storm with seventy to ninety
foot waves and winds of one hundred to one hundred
and twenty knots, and the ship is rolling forty five
degrees to either side. You know, the edge of the
flight deck is going into the ocean. You know, this
is the flight deck is seventy feet above the water
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and normal seas the guys in the bridge could actually
reach out and touch the waves they were rolling so badly.
And then down in the magazine, you know, they were
stocked with bombs to support the you know, the air
support for the fighting in Layte, and the bombs broke loose,
so you've got five hundred two thousand pound bumps.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rolling back and forth across the floor.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And the crew had to rush into the magazine with
rope and try and lash these things into place. So
absolutely terrifying experience and the closest of close calls and
three destroyers capsized in that storm, killed almost eight hundred guys.
I mean, this is we talket We think about the combat,
you know, Layte golf, but the storm was really something.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, and it's interesting. You know, I was thinking about
how how you could pitch this Nate for the eventual series,
you know, Kerrie and I you know, you know, carry
my wife where We've decided we're going to go back
and give Masters of the Air another chance after having
a couple of week episodes. But you know, the aerial
combat stuff I think is very well done in it.
But if we if we were pitching Mighty Mood to
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a studio. I would say you could take it to
a couple directions. One it's you know, it's a little
bit like Band of Brothers, but you know on a
on an aircraft carry in the Pacific, that's one way
to go. Or it's like Moneyball, but US Navy World
War Two. Because this ship wasn't supposed to be much
of anything, there were questions about it even seeing any action.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Right, Yeah, you know, these to be perfectly blunt, these
guys were second stringers. You know, if you were a
Naval Academy grad, if you were you know, a professional sailor,
you're going to say, you know, one of the best
of the best, you're gonna be on one of the
big carriers. So, you know, Captain McConnell the first, the
ship's first captain, seventy percent of the guys who went
aboard his boat in ship in forty three had never
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been to sea at all. So he had this green
mob of people who you know, most of these guys were.
The crew was seventeen or eighteen years old, the pilots
were twenty one to twenty three. They did total newbies
to the Navy, and he had to make an effective
wartime team out of it and did a really good
job in a remarkably short period of time. So, and
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I think that's one of the things that I found
neatest about this story was, you know how it's almost
a coming of a you know, You've got these guys
that never never, not much as expected of them, and
yet they sort of grew into this role and had
this tremendous opportunity to make a difference there in the
Pacific War.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, and I know when I was reading it, just
the detail you go into everything from you know how
they entertain themselves on ship to the food. You know,
where was the food good? Where was the food bad?
I mean, you really feel like you get a deep
dive into what it would be like to have been
on a carrier in the Pacific in the Second World War. So, Nate, congratulations,
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My friend Nathan kind of sparrow your great book. Here.
The Mighty Move is the title. It's a fun title
story of the USS cowpens in the Pacific theater. Where
should people just go? Is there a website specifically you
want them to go to, or you know, Amazon, you
just want people to get the book anywhere? What do
you want to tell the folks.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, it's widely available. You can get on Amazon, Barnes
and Noble, Walmart, Target, wherever wherever books are sold, it
should be there. So I really appreciate your support. And
you know, with Father's Day coming up, I mean, my
dad likes World War two history, but it was you know,
it's a great opportunity for me to sort of on
this Father's Day pay tribute to my granddad and a
lot of other men like him who did their bit,
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you know, when their country needed.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Them the most.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, you know Carrie's granddad who's a vice admiral. I'm
gonna need you to get a signed copye to him. Okay,
so we'll take care of that absolutely, all right, mighty mow,
everybody get your copy. Nate, congrats man, great to talk
to you. Thanks so much, Thanks Buck, take care. Yeah,
and honestly, really really good book. You see it here
on the stream, you'll really enjoy it. I will take
some of your calls here momentarily to close us out.
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on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Really hope you can get a copy of The Mighty Move.
Remember we also have it linked up at Clayandbuck dot com.
The story of the USS Cowpens in World War Two.
And yeah, like I said, Nate was my mentor twenty
years ago. He's been a dear friend ever since. Brilliant
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guy has written a great book. It's a really good read.
If I mean, if you like World War two history,
you're just gonna love this book. So we haven't linked
up at Clanbuck dot com. H Gary and Jacksonville, Florida.
You want to talk about about the situation, my friend?
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Hi? Buck, love your show man.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I just wanted to thank you for putting this out there.
I ordered the book, pre ordered it. Actually, uh, my
dad was a plank owner on that ship and gunner's mate,
and he survived the uh he survived the typhoon also,
and like like the author said, he was below decks
trying to find it secure all those bombs that were
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rolling around the stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And yeah, my my like my grandfather was on the Batan.
He was an officer on the Batan and uh so
he was there at Leta as well. And I mentioned this,
but he he also just like it was this. This
is what really struck me when I was reading the
introduction of Night's book. He really just was talking to
his grandfather about the war. And you know, Nate's been
in the government and been to his fair share of
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hotspots too, and uh, you know when he was trying
to talk to him as the same with my grandfather,
he just never he always wanted to talk about the
Catholic charities that he worked with later in life, and
that he didn't want to talk about the war. But
then when he got much older, it just kind of
came out a couple of times and he talked about
the kamikazeis and he's Timmembery. He told me he didn't
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sleep for a week. Uh, he just didn't sleep for
a week during late Ta Golf. So you know, a
period of history which is still the I believe, the
biggest nation, and your grandfather was there as well, the
biggest naval engagement in history I believe is still considered
to be lete golf. Yeah, yeah, oh, I'm sorry your dad,
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you're dad. Yeah yeah, I was gonna say, well, thank
your dad for his service, and also, uh, I hope
you really enjoyed the book, Gary, so thank you so
much for calling in. And we have just you know,
Biden was talking just now about the Biden was talking
about well, we thought he was gonna talk about Hunter
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and the gun conviction, and he ended up he's still talking.
Oh he's still talking. Oh boy. And so far we're
monitoring this. I didn't want to make you you know,
you don't listen to the show to hear Biden give
cant speeches, right, So we're monitoring it live in real time.
Now it's been mostly him just talking about guns and
gun safety, which I don't think Hunter's a you know,
(30:34):
I got to go to for gun safety. But anyway,
get based on some of those videos or a photo,
well videos, photos, whatever he has on the laptop. But
you know, they're they're just gonna make this about sympathy
and and what's amazing to me is it's you know, Biden.
People forget this. I think Biden has been advocating for
these kinds of laws around around firearms. And I'm just
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telling you this, Democrats like criminal. Let me see he's talking.
Hold on a second, I'm just making sure he's talking
to the group. Mom's demand action for gun sense in America. God,
Democrats like criminalizing gun possession in as many ways as
they can, right. They like doing that because it's a way,
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it's an end run on the Second Amendment. It's a
means of making it harder, more risky even to own
a firearm in America. So they're always there is no
criminal gun law really that Democrats aren't going to be,
you know, criminalization of gun ownership that Democrats generally aren't
going to be in favor for a favor of. And
I don't even might say, oh, buck, what about all
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the people in cities who are minorities and disproportionately you know,
young black men who are arrested with firearms. Well, they'll
just then they control the prosecutor's offices. Right, So in
a place like Philadelphia, this is real. I think it
was two years ago Krasner's Philadelphia that or rather brought
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only half of felon possession gun charges to Tronto. They
dismissed half of that's felon in possession. And it's going
to be mostly people who are convicted of serious drug
and serious you know, violent felonies in the context of
the Philadelphia. But they just thought it had a disproportionate
impact on the you know, male minority community in Philadelphia,
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so they just ignore it. But if you are you know,
some guy who you know works for like Mutual of Omaha,
or you know Kaiser Permanente, or you work on Wall
Street or something, and you cross, you know, are you
you have a shotgun that's not registered in the state
of New York. They don't want to lock you up
for that one. You might take your twenty gauge for
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sporting plays and go rob a liquor store with it.
I mean, this is so Biden's in favor of the
very kind, the very gun law, the specific gun law
that has been used against his son here. And Biden
is going to continue to want this because it's a
way that the anti gun, that the gun grabbers effectively
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can harass you. And they get to determine, just like
everything else, when it comes to the criminal law, they
get to determine who the law is held. You know,
who the law is used against and who it's not.
And if you have Soros prosecutors, the you know, the
father of four you know, in a stable marriage, working
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paying taxes and everything, who gets jammed up by some technicality.
You mean, like what buck, Oh, I don't know. New
York used to arrest people, this is true, arrest people
who were on a flight diverted to New York by weather,
had to take their checked firearm. Totally legal to check
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your farm, bring it with you, take their check farm,
went to recheck it in because their flight was canceled
or you know, they had to get on a new flight.
New York has this is true, had arrested people for that,
arrested them. So those are the kind of gun laws
that the Democrats like, vague ensnaring people for no real
criminal conduct whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And even if it gets people who are real criminals,
you know, gang bangers who are hurting people and you know,
running drug rings and killing people over n over, you know, territory.
That's that's the kind of thing that you know they want.
That was the kind of laws. All right. So I
want to switch gears for a second because I want
to start something here late late in the show, as
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I'm solo and clayke and wigh into Clays. You know,
he's just out with his with his son, his oldest boy,
looking at colleges today. I'll be back with us tomorrow.
Uh the and I'm sure he's gonna want to weigh
and heavily on the on the Hunter conviction. But this
is one where I know some of you are gonna
get fired up at me. Washington Post a restaurant wanting
a grown and sexy vibe, bans diners under thirty. This
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is I don't know this was even a thing. The
age restrictured recording the posters has polarized customers. So wait,
where is does this just open its doors in May?
They have a Caribbean restaurant outside Saint Louis and they
want an upscale vibe, so they say that you have
to be over thirty to dine there. Now, I can't
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get on board with the over thirty to dine somewhere.
I'm just gonna say that that to me is like
what I do think that restaurants having this is where
people get mad at me. You know, no one under
the no one under the age of you can be
told to be quiet, and you're expected to be quiet
during certain hours. I am sorry, but when someone is
paying on clearly and you know, for an adult date night,
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romantic experience at a fine dining restaurant at eight o'clock
on a Saturday. The little bundle of joy that some
people bring in there that is screaming and wail and
spitting up. Get a babysitter. Oh, I know, people get sold.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was saying, you can afford to die at the
fancy restaurant, but the babysitter is too much, too pricey.
I don't think so. So I agree with age restrictions
on restaurants for certain hours. Brunch. I'm just gonna brunch
as a free for all. You know, I can't. I
can't pretend that that's well, we're gonna win. But yeah,
I think from like seven to you know, seven pm
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to close Friday and Saturday night, fine dining restaurants should
have a you know, no one under twelve or no one,
you know, no one under eight. I don't know. They
can figure it out. But you gotta have time for
mommy and daddy or you know, the people on a
date or whatever to not have to worry about, you know,
toddler toys flying over their shoulder at them. I'm just saying,
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I just speak the truth.
Third hour Clayan book kicks off right now, and we're
gonna give you the latest here on the Hunter Biden conviction. Guilty, guilty, guilty,
three counts And what is the media doing with this?
How are they trying to make sure there is the
bare minimum of political impact and also accountability for Hunter,
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which I don't think this qualifies as accountability. It's just
he didn't manage to be entirely above the law for
the last decade or so. So I have to say
I think it's overall what I expected and said so here,
and the sentencing will probably happen. It's scheduled to be
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likely around October. They will do everything they can to
make sure that there is no need for him to
actually show up to any prison cell. But I wanted
to because Hunter's gonna get pardoned by his dad. Just
remember I said this, He's gonna get pardoned by his dad.
You know what, I don't even know if you have
you know this too, right, We all know this. So
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it's not like I'm making a prediction here, like, oh,
I think the son's gonna come up tomorrow. Yeah, Hunter's
gonna pardon his dad.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm sorry Joe is gonna pardon Hunter. If Hunter pardon
his dad, that would be amazing. Be worried, be worried
about the Biden family. So the way that they're trying
to spin this one, now you have jurors. For example,
this is on CNN. So if you want to go
to see what the Democrat quasi intelligenzia thinks about this
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whole thing, you go on CNN and you see that, yes,
they have to report Hunter Biden guilty on all accounts,
because that's the obvious fact. But then they're saying the
juror says, the case seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars.
I really don't think Hunter belongs in jail. End quote.
I'm just wondering. I'm just wondering. Do you think there
was anything like that when Trump was convicted of a
(02:05):
far more absurd, a far more absurd series of felonies,
thirty four felonies, guilty, guilty, guilty. Do you think cn
end was quoting any any experts, any juris, any anyone saying,
you know, I think this was kind of a mountain
out of a molehill situation in New York. And no,
(02:25):
of course, not of course not that is not not
the way that is, and also the way they write
this jury concluded Hunter Biden violated laws meant to prevent
drug addicts promoting firearms. Yeah, because the jury is not
completely idiotic. Of course he violated this law. And as
I've told you, I disagree with this law. But that's
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put that aside. It is the law. I think it
should be. I think it should be adjusted. I think
it should be changed in a few ways. But the
President says, I'm just going down if you want to
see in real time, what are the talking points here?
You know, So it's it's gonna be the Hunter. It's
you know, sad, but he's facing accountability. No one is
above the law. Blah blah. Tragedy for the Biden family
(03:09):
once again, Sympathy for Joe Biden, sympathy for Hunter Biden,
because what else are they gonna do? Admit that the
Biden crime family is just that, a family full of crime.
I mean they should, but they're not going to do that.
And you have let me see. The President says he
is proud Hunter has conquered his battle against addiction, but
accepts the jury's guilty verdict. You also had Joe Biden
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say something else? Do we have this? He was I
don't even know where he was, but just listening to
Joe Biden, this is a SoundBite we have. I have
absolutely no idea what he's saying. Here. Listen, he knows, so.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Long as he was nine, our can never be secured.
What can we?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Can? We play it again? This was Joe Biden giving
a public speech. He was here. I'll find where he was.
But this guy's the commander in chief. We're supposed to
believe he's ready to go, and he's totally sharp, totally
on it. No problem here, play it again.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He knows, so long as he was nine are freedom
can never be secured? What?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, I don't know. That doesn't matter. Sometimes the president's
just got to speaking total gibberish that's unintelligible to anybody else.
That's just the way it's got to be. They tell
us this has to be your candidate. I'm sorry, this
has to be your president again for four more years,
not just the candidate. And then I want to get
to this. This is cut twenty seven. It's a special
counsel David Weiss his version of events here, and then
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I want to give you a different perspective on Hunter's
guilty verdict. Play it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
This case was not just about addiction.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
This case was about the illegal.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. Choice
to lie on a government form when he bought a gun,
and the choice to then possess that gun. It was
these choices and the combination of guns and drugs that
made his conduct dangerous. Second, no one in this country
is above the law. Everyone must be accountable for their actions,
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even this defender. However, Hunter Biden should be no more
accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct.
The prosecution has been and will continue to be, committed
to this principle.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, so what does that mean? What are you going
to ask for prosecution? What do you think should happen
now that you have the conviction. I think that the
way the best put this with Hunter Biden is he's
not entirely above the law. I mean, he's mostly above
the law, but he's not entirely above the law. Ah,
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you mean that he gets away with all the stuff
that would be politically damaging that they have cordoned off.
That is in a no that's a no go zone
for the prosecutors. Wait, you mean that Hunter was taking
millions of dollars from corrupt Ukrainian businessmen and from the
Chinese Communist Party through corporate cutouts. He was taking tens
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of millions of dollars from these entities and getting his
dad to get on the phone to prove that he
had access to his dad. And clearly Joe Biden didn't
seem to have any problem with that. You mean to
tell me that that's there's nothing to see there. Oh,
and then he hid this, He hid that money. Why
would he hide that? Yeah, you could say just greed,
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but yeah, I think it's more than that. I think
Hunter at some level realized, isn't amazing this guy? Team?
Didn't he go to Yale Law School? Am I? I
know this is a bit of a digression. Didn't Hunter
go to am I? Am I wrong on that one?
Did Hunter go to Yale Law school? Somebody? Because that
would just be too hilarious, wouldn't it. I mean, that's
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part of what you see at these supposedly elite institutions.
They will take the the son or daughter of a
Democrat politician, any of them. If you are a if
your dad or mom is a famous Democrat politician, a Clinton,
A Biden and Obama, a Kennedy. Whatever. You get to
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pick what undergrad institution you go to, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford,
you know, whatever, you get to pick what graduate program
you get into. And you wonder, why, well, why do
these places have to suck up like there's the political celebrities. Guys,
am I right? Didn't he go to Yeale Law School? Yes?
He did.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yale Law School has like a two point seven percent
admission rate. It is, by the numbers, the hardest law
school to get into in America. And the place is
a joke, a joke. If any of you have children
who went there, went there yourself, I'm sure you did
incredibly well in school and worked very very hard. But
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there were a lot of people who were there who
actually weren't impressive at all. They got in four reasons
of affirmative action, which Yell is very into. They got
in for reasons of they kind of accelerated or super
special legacy, which is being a political the scion of
a political dynasty or something else. But it's then a hunter.
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Biden went to Yell Law School. That's great. He's such
a brilliant jurist. Oh, Hunter Biden, this is the guy
you want answering the phone when you have a tough question.
Who's your first call if you get arrested? Hunter Biden?
I mean, at least he could tell you what it's
like to be arrested, that's true, and probably tell you
where the best place is to get a whole lot
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of illegal things too. But anyway, this is the this
is the Biden situation as it unfolds before us. They're
trying to make it about everything other than the big
issues that would cost Biden the election. I haven't even
gotten to the fact that a lot of was entirely real.
Everything on the laptop, right, this is all confirming this
verdict in part confirmed the photos on the laptop real,
(09:08):
the stuff on the laptop real, and right before the election,
one of the some of the most powerful media companies
on the planet, news and social media companies work to
shut it all down. They wanted they set us Russian disinformation,
and they want to tell you. They want to tell
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you that they should still be able to shut things
down in this election for disinformation. Don't don't think that
they have backed off of that at all. We are
just in a new phase. Yeah, Hunter went to Georgetown
ninety two. That's funny. I think Clay's actually touring Georgetown
with his son that I got into Georgetown. I love
that school. I kind of my little brother went there.
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I think that's a great, great choice for anybody. But
Yale Law that that's particularly funny. Yale Law in nineteen
ninety six, Hunter Biden oh Man. And you know, he
also does the finger paintings. Technically, I think there are
oil paintings, but I like to say finger paintings just
to mock it a little bit more. But he does
the paintings, which he sells for hundreds of thousands of dollars,
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and we're not allowed to know who's buying those paintings.
That's not corrupt at all. Right, It's all just so gross. Biden,
Joe Biden, the Biden dynasty, it's all so unseemly. They
are such unethical individuals and always have been. Never mind
Joe's brother. I'vetan get into Joe's brother yet, who's a
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business partner. A lot of this stuff, but they can't
run from it this time the same way they did
last time, or suppress it this time. The same way
they did last time, So it will be more of
a challenge for them going forward. But I think you'll
see I don't think you see the poll shift at
all on this, not one bit. Isn't this amazing? If
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I had told you two years years ago? I mean,
you have to put yourself in that mindset that Donald
Trump will be convicted of thirty four felonies, Joe Biden's
son will be convicted of three felonies months before the election,
and the polls would show basically no change whatsoever. I mean,
that would have been quite a thing to say, right
It would have sounded like I was insane. Here we are,
(11:20):
here we are. I don't know. I wonder, I'm wondering
what you think about this. Does the conviction of Hunter
Biden make it more likely that there will be a
more severe which would really just mean some kind of,
you know, prison sentence, more severe punishment of Donald Trump?
In New York, judges can go above the guidelines and
(11:43):
they can decide to make an example of someone. Now,
it would be so brazen to do something like that
in New York to Donald Trump. But brazen hasn't stopped
them at all yet? Has it that they had a
I can't have what was the number, four hundred and
eighty million dollars in civil judgments against Donald Trump, four
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felony trials all held to try to coincide at the
same time in the election year. I think anyone who
makes the argument that's a line they won't cross has
been wrong too many times to keep making that argument.
When it comes to the Democrats, what lines were they
not crossing? Again? So that may be a part of
this Hunter Biden conviction. That may be a component of
(12:30):
what we're seeing here. But for Democrats, as long as
they can wall off Joe Biden's corruption from Hunter, you know,
if he's got to go to the Big House for
a year or two, well, not going to happen, because
Dad's going to pardon him. But I'm talking about the sentence.
Even theoretically, if he got that sentence, I think they
wouldn't start it within a time period that would preclude
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Joe Biden from just pardoning him. So it's a crazy
This is the craziest election. I do think we should
to take a moment and go, Wow, it's June of
twenty twenty four and this is already the craziest election
cycle I think I've ever seen in my life, right,
I mean, I know, twenty sixteen got really nuts. In
twenty twenty was pretty nuts. But now we're talking about
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In special guest coming up in a few moments, my
friend and career intelligence professional Nathan Connastaro, who has written
(15:30):
a phenomenal book which I have read. I have here
for those of you who are watching on our VIP stream,
The Mighty Move World War two Pacific Theater aircraft carrier story.
I've described it to friends who I'm telling to buy
the book. It's like Moneyball, but with an aircraft carrier.
You throw together a bunch of officers out of nowhere,
a ship that had some problems in the beginning and
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ends up in some of the most intense combat in
the Pacific theater for a carrier ends up in Tokyo
Bay at the surrender. Anyway, Nate's gonna tell you all
about it. But it's a great World War two book,
The Mighty Move. It's a cool name. Get it. Cowpens
Remember Uss Cowpens the Revolutionary battle where I think, wasn't
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that where Tarltan it's from. It's like the mel Gibson
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sequence at the end where they have that British guy
who was so good as as Colonel Tarltan And uh yeah,
we'll get into all that with Nate here coming up.
But first up and get the book Mighty Move, Oh
call it. Sorry, I had to call her Tony and Michigan.
(16:34):
What have you got happening? Guys?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Now? It makes me wonder who's cocaine was it in
the White House?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, I mean there are people who had theories about
it all along. I think I think the theories have
consistently pointed in a certain direction. But you know this, well,
this White House, I don't know, and I don't think
that there. I think there's probably a fair number of
people in the White House who weren't exactly on the
straight and narrow. Thanks for calling in, Tony, but a
fair point about how the most secure building in the
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world someone just leaves cocaine in a baggie and we
can't we don't. Maybe it's not the most secure building
in the world, but you know what I mean, it's
a pretty important building. It's the White House. We don't
know who left it. I had no idea, no interest
in fighting out apparently either. Well, turns out some people
have theories about it. Yeah, you know it. I do
(17:29):
like this thing that I remember I saw Jordan Peterson
say once, which was he was like, nobody gets away
with anything. He said it kind of like that, But
I think that's I think he's right, And nobody really
gets away with anything because it always eventually catches up.
You know, even if you don't get caught for a
dirt bag, you go through life being a dirt bag
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Very please to have joining us a dear friend of
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Nathan Kinnastero is with this. He is currently on assignment
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book is The Mighty Move, which I have for you
who can see it on the video live stream here
The Mighty Move. Nate, my man. Great to have you
on and congratulations of the book. I read it. It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Well, thanks, Buck, I really do appreciate the opportunity to
be here. I'm glad you glad you enjoyed the book.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Tell me about what led you to write about the Mood,
you know, because it's funny. My grandfather, we actually have
some calls just so you know, Nate, we're not going
able to get you right now. We already have people
who have relatives who served on the Move who are
calling in just so you know. So that's fantastic. Yeah,
they're excited about this book. My grandfather served on the Batan,
one of these LVC carriers write these converted carriers tell
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people about the origin of the Mighty Move.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I mean I got started looking into the Mighty
Movie because my grandfather served aboard, and you know, he was,
like a lot of men of his generation, he just
he didn't want to talk about the war, but he
would just sort of hints at some of the things
that had happened to him. Obviously, you know, he'd seen
some action and there'd been some trauma there.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
But for a guy like me.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Who's interested in military history and he grew up with
band of brothers and you know, saving Private Ryan, the
idea that there was a story here that you know,
he wasn't telling me was kind of catnip and I
really wanted to look into it. So when he died
in twenty ten, I started, you know, sort of pulling
on that thread. And the story that I found was
I just kind of blew my mind, you know it
(20:42):
It was a ship that the Navy didn't want, with
a captain who was nearly scapegoaded for loss of his
last command, that the crew had been in uniform barely
longer than the ship had been afloat, the pilots self
trained on the planes they'd fly into battle. And you know,
her first few months in service, she had this terrible jinks,
this awful streak of bad luck. And yet despite that,
(21:04):
the ship that nobody expected that much from U went
on to a sort of earned a tremendous combat record,
survived a terrible typhoon, and ended up the only US
aircraft carrier in Tokyo Bay to see the Japanese surrender.
So it's it's it's quite an underdog story, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I remember my grandfather toward the end. He passed passed
away about a decade ago, but I remember one of
the only he spoke about being in a typhoon. Once again,
this was on the Batan, not the move, but also
the only time I ever talked, I ever heard him
really talk about combat. And Nate, it just he was
(21:42):
he was in a wheelchair, he had a blanket and
you'll know this blanket that I got from Afghanistan, which
he always kind of treasured across his knees, you know.
And he started talking about combat in Leity Gulf, and
I know that, And and the Japanese swooping in and
trying to take out the carriers cowpens or the move
(22:03):
rather mighty move was that latey?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yes, yes, And the same typhoon. You know, that was
what my grandfather spoke about. He wouldn't talk about the combat.
But you know, actually all the veterans I've talked to,
they were remaining from the move, they all said the
same thing. The typhoon just was the most terrifying bit
of their time aboard. You know, the ships were narrow,
they're tall, They've got a high center of gravity, so
(22:28):
they're tippy. You know, they didn't do well in high seas.
And you're going into a storm with seventy to ninety
foot waves and winds of one hundred to one hundred
and twenty knots, and the ship is rolling forty five
degrees to either side. You know, the edge of the
flight deck is going into the ocean. You know, this
is the flight deck is seventy feet above the water
(22:48):
and normal seas the guys in the bridge could actually
reach out and touch the waves they were rolling so badly.
And then down in the magazine, you know, they were
stocked with bombs to support the you know, the air
support for the fighting in Layte, and the bombs broke loose,
so you've got five hundred two thousand pound bumps.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Rolling back and forth across the floor.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And the crew had to rush into the magazine with
rope and try and lash these things into place. So
absolutely terrifying experience and the closest of close calls and
three destroyers capsized in that storm, killed almost eight hundred guys.
I mean, this is we talket We think about the combat,
you know, Layte golf, but the storm was really something.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, and it's interesting. You know, I was thinking about
how how you could pitch this Nate for the eventual series,
you know, Kerrie and I you know, you know, carry
my wife where We've decided we're going to go back
and give Masters of the Air another chance after having
a couple of week episodes. But you know, the aerial
combat stuff I think is very well done in it.
But if we if we were pitching Mighty Mood to
(23:50):
a studio. I would say you could take it to
a couple directions. One it's you know, it's a little
bit like Band of Brothers, but you know on a
on an aircraft carry in the Pacific, that's one way
to go. Or it's like Moneyball, but US Navy World
War Two. Because this ship wasn't supposed to be much
of anything, there were questions about it even seeing any action.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Right, Yeah, you know, these to be perfectly blunt, these
guys were second stringers. You know, if you were a
Naval Academy grad, if you were you know, a professional sailor,
you're going to say, you know, one of the best
of the best, you're gonna be on one of the
big carriers. So, you know, Captain McConnell the first, the
ship's first captain, seventy percent of the guys who went
aboard his boat in ship in forty three had never
(24:31):
been to sea at all. So he had this green
mob of people who you know, most of these guys were.
The crew was seventeen or eighteen years old, the pilots
were twenty one to twenty three. They did total newbies
to the Navy, and he had to make an effective
wartime team out of it and did a really good
job in a remarkably short period of time. So, and
(24:52):
I think that's one of the things that I found
neatest about this story was, you know how it's almost
a coming of a you know, You've got these guys
that never never, not much as expected of them, and
yet they sort of grew into this role and had
this tremendous opportunity to make a difference there in the
Pacific War.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, and I know when I was reading it, just
the detail you go into everything from you know how
they entertain themselves on ship to the food. You know,
where was the food good? Where was the food bad?
I mean, you really feel like you get a deep
dive into what it would be like to have been
on a carrier in the Pacific in the Second World War. So, Nate, congratulations,
(25:32):
My friend Nathan kind of sparrow your great book. Here.
The Mighty Move is the title. It's a fun title
story of the USS cowpens in the Pacific theater. Where
should people just go? Is there a website specifically you
want them to go to, or you know, Amazon, you
just want people to get the book anywhere? What do
you want to tell the folks.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, it's widely available. You can get on Amazon, Barnes
and Noble, Walmart, Target, wherever wherever books are sold, it
should be there. So I really appreciate your support. And
you know, with Father's Day coming up, I mean, my
dad likes World War two history, but it was you know,
it's a great opportunity for me to sort of on
this Father's Day pay tribute to my granddad and a
lot of other men like him who did their bit,
(26:11):
you know, when their country needed.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Them the most.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Well, you know Carrie's granddad who's a vice admiral. I'm
gonna need you to get a signed copye to him. Okay,
so we'll take care of that absolutely, all right, mighty mow,
everybody get your copy. Nate, congrats man, great to talk
to you. Thanks so much, Thanks Buck, take care. Yeah,
and honestly, really really good book. You see it here
on the stream, you'll really enjoy it. I will take
some of your calls here momentarily to close us out.
(26:35):
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on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Really hope you can get a copy of The Mighty Move.
Remember we also have it linked up at Clayandbuck dot com.
The story of the USS Cowpens in World War Two.
And yeah, like I said, Nate was my mentor twenty
years ago. He's been a dear friend ever since. Brilliant
(28:03):
guy has written a great book. It's a really good read.
If I mean, if you like World War two history,
you're just gonna love this book. So we haven't linked
up at Clanbuck dot com. H Gary and Jacksonville, Florida.
You want to talk about about the situation, my friend?
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Hi? Buck, love your show man.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I just wanted to thank you for putting this out there.
I ordered the book, pre ordered it. Actually, uh, my
dad was a plank owner on that ship and gunner's mate,
and he survived the uh he survived the typhoon also,
and like like the author said, he was below decks
trying to find it secure all those bombs that were
(28:43):
rolling around the stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And yeah, my my like my grandfather was on the Batan.
He was an officer on the Batan and uh so
he was there at Leta as well. And I mentioned this,
but he he also just like it was this. This
is what really struck me when I was reading the
introduction of Night's book. He really just was talking to
his grandfather about the war. And you know, Nate's been
in the government and been to his fair share of
(29:06):
hotspots too, and uh, you know when he was trying
to talk to him as the same with my grandfather,
he just never he always wanted to talk about the
Catholic charities that he worked with later in life, and
that he didn't want to talk about the war. But
then when he got much older, it just kind of
came out a couple of times and he talked about
the kamikazeis and he's Timmembery. He told me he didn't
(29:29):
sleep for a week. Uh, he just didn't sleep for
a week during late Ta Golf. So you know, a
period of history which is still the I believe, the
biggest nation, and your grandfather was there as well, the
biggest naval engagement in history I believe is still considered
to be lete golf. Yeah, yeah, oh, I'm sorry your dad,
(29:49):
you're dad. Yeah yeah, I was gonna say, well, thank
your dad for his service, and also, uh, I hope
you really enjoyed the book, Gary, so thank you so
much for calling in. And we have just you know,
Biden was talking just now about the Biden was talking
about well, we thought he was gonna talk about Hunter
(30:10):
and the gun conviction, and he ended up he's still talking.
Oh he's still talking. Oh boy. And so far we're
monitoring this. I didn't want to make you you know,
you don't listen to the show to hear Biden give
cant speeches, right, So we're monitoring it live in real time.
Now it's been mostly him just talking about guns and
gun safety, which I don't think Hunter's a you know,
(30:34):
I got to go to for gun safety. But anyway,
get based on some of those videos or a photo,
well videos, photos, whatever he has on the laptop. But
you know, they're they're just gonna make this about sympathy
and and what's amazing to me is it's you know, Biden.
People forget this. I think Biden has been advocating for
these kinds of laws around around firearms. And I'm just
(30:57):
telling you this, Democrats like criminal. Let me see he's talking.
Hold on a second, I'm just making sure he's talking
to the group. Mom's demand action for gun sense in America. God,
Democrats like criminalizing gun possession in as many ways as
they can, right. They like doing that because it's a way,
(31:19):
it's an end run on the Second Amendment. It's a
means of making it harder, more risky even to own
a firearm in America. So they're always there is no
criminal gun law really that Democrats aren't going to be,
you know, criminalization of gun ownership that Democrats generally aren't
going to be in favor for a favor of. And
I don't even might say, oh, buck, what about all
(31:40):
the people in cities who are minorities and disproportionately you know,
young black men who are arrested with firearms. Well, they'll
just then they control the prosecutor's offices. Right, So in
a place like Philadelphia, this is real. I think it
was two years ago Krasner's Philadelphia that or rather brought
(32:05):
only half of felon possession gun charges to Tronto. They
dismissed half of that's felon in possession. And it's going
to be mostly people who are convicted of serious drug
and serious you know, violent felonies in the context of
the Philadelphia. But they just thought it had a disproportionate
impact on the you know, male minority community in Philadelphia,
(32:27):
so they just ignore it. But if you are you know,
some guy who you know works for like Mutual of Omaha,
or you know Kaiser Permanente, or you work on Wall
Street or something, and you cross, you know, are you
you have a shotgun that's not registered in the state
of New York. They don't want to lock you up
for that one. You might take your twenty gauge for
(32:50):
sporting plays and go rob a liquor store with it.
I mean, this is so Biden's in favor of the
very kind, the very gun law, the specific gun law
that has been used against his son here. And Biden
is going to continue to want this because it's a
way that the anti gun, that the gun grabbers effectively
(33:11):
can harass you. And they get to determine, just like
everything else, when it comes to the criminal law, they
get to determine who the law is held. You know,
who the law is used against and who it's not.
And if you have Soros prosecutors, the you know, the
father of four you know, in a stable marriage, working
(33:32):
paying taxes and everything, who gets jammed up by some technicality.
You mean, like what buck, Oh, I don't know. New
York used to arrest people, this is true, arrest people
who were on a flight diverted to New York by weather,
had to take their checked firearm. Totally legal to check
(33:52):
your farm, bring it with you, take their check farm,
went to recheck it in because their flight was canceled
or you know, they had to get on a new flight.
New York has this is true, had arrested people for that,
arrested them. So those are the kind of gun laws
that the Democrats like, vague ensnaring people for no real
criminal conduct whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And even if it gets people who are real criminals,
you know, gang bangers who are hurting people and you know,
running drug rings and killing people over n over, you know, territory.
That's that's the kind of thing that you know they want.
That was the kind of laws. All right. So I
want to switch gears for a second because I want
to start something here late late in the show, as
(34:36):
I'm solo and clayke and wigh into Clays. You know,
he's just out with his with his son, his oldest boy,
looking at colleges today. I'll be back with us tomorrow.
Uh the and I'm sure he's gonna want to weigh
and heavily on the on the Hunter conviction. But this
is one where I know some of you are gonna
get fired up at me. Washington Post a restaurant wanting
a grown and sexy vibe, bans diners under thirty. This
(35:02):
is I don't know this was even a thing. The
age restrictured recording the posters has polarized customers. So wait,
where is does this just open its doors in May?
They have a Caribbean restaurant outside Saint Louis and they
want an upscale vibe, so they say that you have
to be over thirty to dine there. Now, I can't
(35:25):
get on board with the over thirty to dine somewhere.
I'm just gonna say that that to me is like
what I do think that restaurants having this is where
people get mad at me. You know, no one under
the no one under the age of you can be
told to be quiet, and you're expected to be quiet
during certain hours. I am sorry, but when someone is
paying on clearly and you know, for an adult date night,
(35:48):
romantic experience at a fine dining restaurant at eight o'clock
on a Saturday. The little bundle of joy that some
people bring in there that is screaming and wail and
spitting up. Get a babysitter. Oh, I know, people get sold.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was saying, you can afford to die at the
fancy restaurant, but the babysitter is too much, too pricey.
I don't think so. So I agree with age restrictions
on restaurants for certain hours. Brunch. I'm just gonna brunch
as a free for all. You know, I can't. I
can't pretend that that's well, we're gonna win. But yeah,
I think from like seven to you know, seven pm
(36:26):
to close Friday and Saturday night, fine dining restaurants should
have a you know, no one under twelve or no one,
you know, no one under eight. I don't know. They
can figure it out. But you gotta have time for
mommy and daddy or you know, the people on a
date or whatever to not have to worry about, you know,
toddler toys flying over their shoulder at them. I'm just saying,
(36:48):
I just speak the truth.
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