September 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers an in-depth political analysis with guest Ryan Girdusky, host of It’s a Numbers Game. The discussion kicks off with the New Jersey governor’s race, where New Jersey Republican Jack Ciattarelli is gaining momentum against Democrat Mikie Sherrill. Despite Democrats’ historic voter advantage, recent polls show a tightening race, fueled by Sherrill’s controversies—including a viral debate stumble and a resurfaced Naval Academy cheating scandal from 1994. Girdusky explains how skyrocketing electricity costs, driven by data center energy demands, have become a top voter concern in both New Jersey and Virginia, shaping campaign strategies.
The conversation shifts to Virginia’s gubernatorial showdown between Republican Winsome Sears and Democrat Abigail Spanberger. Sears is focusing on cultural issues like transgender participation in women’s sports and locker rooms, while Spanberger avoids clear answers, offering vague responses that Clay and Buck criticize as political double-speak. The hosts argue that Democrats in purple states often run as moderates but govern as progressives, warning voters about the stakes in these off-year elections.
Next, attention turns to the New York City mayoral race, where progressive candidate Mamdani is the overwhelming favorite according to betting markets, despite a crowded field including Andrew Cuomo, Eric Adams, and Curtis Sliwa. Girdusky predicts Mamdani’s win could have national implications for Democrats in the 2026 midterms, as his far-left policies on policing and immigration could become a liability for the party’s brand.
The hour also features lively listener calls, including debates over political betting markets, cultural commentary on Marvel vs. Norse mythology, and a lighthearted discussion about comedian Nate Bargatze’s meteoric rise. The show closes with a serious note on school safety, as a caller proposes using retired veterans to provide security in public schools—a plan Clay strongly supports.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour klaan Buck kicks off. Now, our
friend Ryan Gardusky joins us. He is the post on
the klan Buck podcast network of It's a numbers game.
He does the deep dive nerdiness numbers analysis that you
need to know to understand the politics of this country.
Right now, our friend Ryan Gradusky is with us. Mister Gradusky,
(00:21):
thanks for making the time. Let's start with some of
these numbers. I'm seeing some interesting stuff out of New Jersey. Now,
you're a Northeast guy like me, The idea of Republicans
even being competitive in New Jersey seems like it's too
good to be true. What are the numbers telling us
about this? And Clay's one of his favorite candidates is Chitterrelly,
(00:43):
So how's this all looking.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I've got us on FCC watch because I can't pronounce
his name correctly, Ryan, and so just be be aware.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So let's go over some background information again with Democrats.
Start off with an eight hundred and sixty thousand voter
advantage in the gardens. Now, you may say, Ryan, that's
a lot of voters. Yes, but it is down significantly
from November twenty twenty one, the last time Jack Chittarelli
ran for governor. Republicans in the last four years since
the last governor's election have gained one hundred and sixty
(01:13):
two thousand new voters, while Democrats have lost forty seven
thousand voters in an election that Chitarelly lost by only
eighty four thousand votes. If you look at the polls first.
Un for the polls, there were seven polls recently. Overall,
Mickey Cheryl, the Democratic nominee, has led in five of them,
averaging a lead of five point five points. But the
(01:34):
last two polls by credited polsters that have come out
said that Chitarelly is either tied or winning. A national
research poll which was funded by his campaign, so it's
an internal campaign number has him leading by a point
and is up by twenty one points normally internal polling. Obviously,
they slammed some things towards their candidate. But Emerson, which
has been on a roller coaster streak of good polling
(01:54):
it lately, they came out with a poll just today
finding the race tied, and they all was said that
Chittarelli is leading by twenty six points among independents, so
there's consistency there. It's not all good news because the
group of undecided voters overwhelmingly lean Democrat, a lot of minorities,
a lot of women. The problem for Mickey Cheryl is
(02:16):
this minority voters in urban New Jersey do not like her.
They voted overwhelmingly against her in the last oh and
in the primary. She comes from a small town where
the median income is well over one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars a year, and she had a disastrous interview
on the Breakfast Club where she couldn't describe how she
made seven million dollars in profit selling stocks, which she
(02:38):
was fined for because she was selling well. She was
on on the house appropriations for the military contracts. That
has been a huge, huge problem. Democrats are freak debt.
They've spent an additional one point five million dollars on
this race, twenty five million in total. Internals are showing
that she is not in a strong place, and that's
where they're putting all their hands on deck.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, how do we so a couple of things, Ryan,
and I know some of you from New Jersey are
going to know this, but I actually think it got
snowed under Trump lost New Jersey by about five points.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He lost Virginia by about five points.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's where both of the governor's races that are going
to be tappening in about six weeks are taking place.
Ryan the Trump team believes that if they had had
Kamala Harris money, that is, they could have just sprayed
money everywhere like Kamala did, that they could have won
in Virginia, they could have won in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Do you buy it?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And do we know if the current candidates in New
Jersey and Virginia are they competitive enough with dollars to
spend coming down the stretch run Here as a lot
of people that are not political obsessives become aware these governors'
races are going on.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well it's great you mentioned Trump. So there's an inverse
problem happening between New Jersey and Virginia. In Virginia win
some series, they're Republican nominee is trying to nationalize this election.
She is making this specifically about trans girls playing biological
female sports. It is her number one issue. She is
talking about it consistently and is what her ads are
(04:12):
focusing on. Inversely, in New Jersey, the Democrat Mickey Cheryl
is making this entire election about Trump. Just today, there
was a newsbreaking story a little while ago that she
was not allowed to walk in the US Naval Academy
commencement speech because she cheated one hundred and thirty times
in her class. That was sorry, in place of one
hundred and thirty people, she cheated and she could not
(04:32):
walk in her graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Although let me let me rephrase that, Ryan, because I
think it was a little bit. I think she was
part of a group of one hundred and thirty people
that was accused of cheating on tests that were not
allowed to walk. Not she cheated one hundred and thirty times.
I think the Naval Academy would probably say, hey, I
don't know what the number is, but I think you
get kicked out.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
My apologizes, Yes, that is true. She was with one
hundred and thirty people, So she had made this election
about Trump. She blamed Jack Chittarelli for this story coming out,
saying he's part of the Trump cabal to release information.
Jack Chiarelli has focused specifically on affordability and electricity costs.
Electricity costs are the number one issue in both Virginia
(05:14):
and New Jersey's election. Incidentally, enough electricity costs are skyrocking
in both places. The difference between New Jersey and Virginia
is the elasticity of the electorate. So Virginia's electric because
it is much blacker and black in America has a
lower level of They move far, far, far less than
Hispanics or whites do. It is a less there's less
(05:36):
elesticity for the Republicans to make big, big gains. The
questions do they show up at all? There's also a
lot of uh, you know, quote unquote awfuls, which is
like angry white female liberals. There's a lot more in Virginia,
and there's a lot of people angry over the elon
cuts to federal jobs. New Jersey doesn't have that problem,
and Chittarelli has been more centralized on the affordability question
(05:58):
and on the tax question. Cheryl had an absolutely abominable
debate performance where where she would not commit to not
raising taxes in the middle class and she would not
explain once again how she made seven million dollars on
a stock trade. Both those clips went viral. It's been very,
very bad. Everything that is breaking in someone's favor is
Chitdarelly Childarelly's campaign in the last forty five days have
(06:20):
reminded me more of Glenn Youngkins than when some series
when some seiers is really just trying to get the
Trump face out and she's had a mixed record on
having that ability.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Can you break down for as a little bit, Ryan,
I thought that was really interesting and I'd seen some
headlines around this, the skyrocketing electricity price, as that's generally
not something you think of as a top election issue
at the state level, but that that is in two
different states, in these two critical governors' races. I think
it's very interesting. Part of it, as I understand it
is data center usage and essentially places getting ready for
(06:55):
AI or wanting to be more part of the AI race,
and also to store all this data on line. Part
of it is natural gas prices. So there's a few
things coming into it. But how are the various campaigns
handling this, Because always think it's so funny the Democrats
their only idea for how to make electricity price is
less expensive involve finding more expensive forms of electricity like solar.
(07:18):
I mean, I don't know what they think they're going
to do, So how's that playing out?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right? So it is the number one issue in both
New Jersey and Virginia and AI center. So our data
centers are the main culture. Data centers take about twenty
five percent of Virginia's electricity one and four. They've added
about twenty million homes using power through data centers. In
New Jerseys, data centers are responsible for seventy percent of
the increased prices in electricity. Jack Turiuelli is talking about
(07:44):
having tax cuts for the middle class and about trying
to have more alternative alternative in a form of solar,
but really looking at increasing natural gas subsidies or anything
he can just sit there and try to get prices
lower through using taxes in the state. Abigail Spamberger over
in Virginia, she's actually the only candidate running statewide who
(08:05):
is pointed to data centers and saying we need to
figure out how to deal with this increase in the
cost of electricity through data centers, and she's the one
who's point of the finger when since here's really hasn't
spoken about data centers or electricity prices nearly as much,
focusing much more on national issues to try to really
drive out lower propensity voters. And I have a number
on that Virginia does not have the does not have
(08:29):
party registration like New Jersey does, so you're not a
registered Republican or Agiodemocrat. But among modeling companies, companies that
model whether you're likely to be a Republican or a Democrat,
Republicans have done a much better job at turning out
people who have either never voted and are likely. Republicans
are only voted once in the last four elections than
Democrats have. So if that's her game plan, by bringing
(08:50):
out lower Penscity voters, it's showing a little bit of traction.
But Democrats outside of Richmond and in the northern part
of the state and the outside of DC are really
aniela gangbusters, especially in the Richmond suburbs.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Let's go to the New York City mayor's race, because
a lot of our WOR listeners are plugged in on
this Ryan. We still haven't gotten any movement from from
anyone to drop out, whether it's Eric Adams, Curtis Lee,
Andrew Cuomo, and as I'm looking right now at Polymarket,
they have an eighty seven percent chance that Mom Donnie
(09:26):
is elected mayor. Is there any reason right now in
your mind to expect any kind of movement there, or
if you kind of resign yourself to mom Donnie is
going to be the next New York City.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Mayor MND Donnie's been the next city mayor unless Eric
Adams and Curtis Lee would drop out. I mean, and
we've had more polling out of New York City than
either Virginia or New Jersey at this point. Polsters love
pulling New York. It's an interesting race. The problem is
in this fractured field, it needs to be a head
on head competition, and all polsters agree a head to
head competition between Cuomo and Donnie shows a competitive race,
(10:02):
and we don't know who would win. But Cuomo has
run one of the most god awful campaigns I could imagine.
He's made no concessions to Republicans to try to win
them over whatsoever. And Eric Adams is still hanging around
around seven or eight percent, mostly among Jewish and Black
voters who would otherwise be voting for Cuomo. So it's
really been some of the worst campaigning I've ever seen,
(10:24):
especially from Cuomo, and Courtesy was had essentially no campaign
as ie from going the same five places over and
over and over. Again, he's pulling somewhere in the load
to mid teams and it's really kind of fizzled out.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So okay, do you buy buck? And I have kind
of debated this that mom Donnie could have an impact
in the twenty twenty six mid terms if he is
the face of the Democrat party or do you think
he's really not that well known outside of New York City?
What is his impact? Let's say he wins. Obviously he's
not a citizen, i mean born American citizen, so he's
(10:59):
not eligible to run for instance, for president, thankfully, sadly,
given how much support he has among Democrats, does he
have national residence next year in your mind if he
wins in New York City or not?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Absolutely. I Mean there's the reason why Fox News is
the only who covers his speeches live and they don't
do it for any New York to the politician, and
they want to Republicans definitely want to make him the face,
which is why Hakeem Jeffries still won't endorse him, despite
Kathy Hochele endorsing him. And it'll be a big question
going to twenty twenty six if they sit there and
try to play spoiler man Donnie made a comment saying,
(11:34):
I'm not promising to reindorse Kathy Hogel or any other Democrat.
So they very much want to play. And I spoke
to some Democratic consultants who are very, very smart, and
the question they said, they said this, it is not
a question of if, like an aoc or Mandanni type
of person will be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight.
It's a matter of when. It is just a matter
(11:56):
of timing. All the movement is on the progressive side,
and they are absolutely going to make Mundonni the face
of it. And he's you know, he's charming to some people,
He's charismatic to some people. He does have some ability
political ability that I do notice. But his policies are
absolutely insane, especially around policing, and he's going to, especially
in the Northeast, is going to be very problematic for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So is it your view that he will be as
insane as we are worried he will be if he
becomes the mayor of New York, Like, will he actually
do these policies or is this just to get the
sizzle going? But he'll have to deal with the reality
of trying to govern eight and a half million people.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, he has limitations because the governor has a lot
of control over New York City, so it's not like
he's it's not like he's the president of the King
of the city. There are certain things that he can
do that I expect him to do on day one.
He also is the problem. The federal government is going
to be breathing down his neck on certain issues, like
the idea that he's going to be able to kick
ice agents out of the city is just not realistic whatsoever.
(12:56):
On certain things. He's going to be pretty horrific. On
other things, he can't fulfill half of those promises because
he doesn't have the ability or the wherewithal to do so. So,
I mean, I think that he's gonna be a worst
mayor than build a Blasio. But I mean, that's what
that's what's happening right now in New York.
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excellent host. Ryan, thanks for breaking it all down for us.
Great stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thank you.
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Sorry you were supposed to bring us in there, Clay,
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Some people are mad at us. We got people who
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's it's clocked at ninety seven. That's not that's not
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I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Probably Buck's going to say, oh, the weather's not going
to be great in Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Not sure I'll be able to get out. It is
typhoon season there, mister Clay, So you're being sorry that
I'm sorry that, you know, fifty inches of rain in
a day or something is makes it a little harder
to play excuses.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's what it sounds like to me. Let's go by
the way. Let's go ahead and let him in. I
don't know how to pronounce this name. Do you know
New York City?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
There?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You're better at positiation. Is it Odin? Odin? Like the
Norse guy?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They confused me by saying like the Norse guard god there,
because I was like, is it a way that I
wouldn't expected to be that way?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Hold on a second, Odin. People always ask me this,
and it's my middle name, But is Odin your actual name?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yes? Odin is my actual name?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
O D I N That is very cool. I'm gonna
tell you that's that's like legit. That's like your first
name being thor. I'm a fan. All right, what do
you want to talk to us about? Odin? Fellers?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
You guys are hurting usin Yorkers. We're not in the
business I thought of suppressing votes. I am a Republican.
I would vote for Eric Adams because we know what
Cuomo did when he was governor. He killed fourteen thousand people.
I don't want Cuomo as my mayor. Okay, Slee won't.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Unfortunately, he won't get enough votes.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
The math just ain't math to him.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
So I'd stick with the devil I know which is
mayor Adams.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, but you actually hold on, Odin, we're not suppressing.
You actually agree with this that if everybody stays in,
Curtis Slee was gonna win.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I mean, I mean sorry that mom Donnie's gonna win.
That would be great. But yeah, yeah, Matt, you agree
with us, right.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
If everybody stays in, I don't know what will happen
because the Great Rush Limbo always told me poles are
designed to sway public opinions.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We don't, we're not okay, we're not talking about the polls.
What I cited was poly market. You can right now, Odin,
go to polymarket dot com. There is a ninety percent
chance in the gambling markets that Mom Donnie is gonna win.
If you disagree with that, you can go make a
ton of money betting on Sliwa, betting on Adams, or
(17:38):
betting on.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
If you think one of those three guys is gonna win,
put your money where your mouth is go in the market.
All I'm telling you is what the market is saying.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
This is the problem. You don't live in New York.
You don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
This is the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You live in Tennessee. You don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I care. My whole family still lives in New York.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I would love if the Communists didn't win in every
election anywhere in the country. I'm just telling you, mom,
Donnie is a huge favorite. Right now, he's angry.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I think Odin's throwing a bolt of lightning at you play,
so deal with it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Look Odin, I gotta win for you here, no matter
where you live in the country. Jalen Hurt's gonna get
more than one half passing yards. That is a guaranteed win.
Kyler Murray more than one half passing touchdowns tonight. Sam
Darnold more than one half passing touchdowns. If I'm right,
that pays out at two and a half to one.
(18:31):
If you go right now to prizepicks dot com, use
my name Clay, download the app, go to the website.
Whatever you want to do. California, Florida, Georgia. Get hooked
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Clay were winning two and a half to one tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Several different things. One I want to clean up.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm not one hundred percent sure that polymarket is legal
in the United States right now, I know they're moving
towards legality.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So if you want.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
To bet on politics, the website that is one hundred
percent legal is Calshi. You just heard me talking with Odin.
He was upset. I'm not citing polls when I am
citing these gambling markets. That means if you think they're wrong,
then you can go in and you can take another side,
(19:22):
just like you can in any sporting event. So, right
now in New York City, because I want to get
it exactly right, I am on the Calshi website.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It is one hundred percent legal.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Mom Donnie has an eighty seven percent chance of winning,
Andrew Cuomo has a thirteen percent chance of winning. Eric
Adams has under one percent chance of winning, and Kurtis
Sleewa has under one percent chance of winning. So you
have the ability to put your money where your mouth is.
(19:53):
The data reflects, and I think we're true on this,
and I'm not trying to hide the ball or make
people angry in New York. By shit it, Mam Donnie
right now is a huge favorite to be elected the
next mayor of New York City. The numbers reflect that
if Adams, Sliwa, and Cuomo all stay in the race,
(20:14):
there is virtually a zero percent chance, by and large,
that anybody other than Mom Donnie is going to win.
That's the reality telling you, hey, somebody else is going
to win, like they're being underrated. I'm not citing polls.
I'm just telling you what the markets are saying right now,
and Mom Donnie.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Is a huge favorite.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Now, what Odin may have been referencing is I've made
the argument that New York picking an awful mayor could
actually help nationwide in the twenty twenty six midterms. That's
why Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, also New Yorkers, the
House of Representatives minority leader and the Senate Minority leader,
(20:58):
why they have tried to avoid in we're seeing Mom
Donnie so far because they think that he is a
bad look for the national Democrat brand.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think Odin is also upset that you're acting like
Loki in this scenario and bringing us closer to political Ragnarok.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That is such a nerdy analogy that I can't help
but respect it. I don't know what percentage of people
out there are nodding. I think it's a small percentage,
but it is. If you are aware with what is
going on in that universe, you are going to be superval.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We got some big Norse mythology buffs in the audience.
They're like, yeah, Buck, tell them, And.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I think some of them out there are probably just
Marvel fans.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah, it's much more likely to be Marvel than
It's funny. I know about it more from Norse mythology,
which I studied in school for a while, than the
Marvel movies, which I have seen almost none of.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I've seen all the Marvel movies. So when you say
Loki or you say Thor, I immediately think or Odin.
I immediately think of the Marvel movies out there. Okay,
we got a bunch of different people who want a
way in, and let's see VIP email from Jennifer Agree
on natepar Gatsy.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Buck was saying, hey, go see this guy. Great comedian.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He's super famous, not like we're basically telling you, hey,
you know what's a you should drink a coke. I mean,
Nate's gotten so famous that almost everybody knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But I've been saying he's good on the show. I mean,
I know you've known him for a decade and so
you've always thought he was good. But I'm saying it's
been years now. Yeah, So I feel like I liked
the band early, Like I like the band before they
were playing the super Bowl, and now he's playing the
super Bowl. Well, I'm just excited to see a success because.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He would come on my local sports talk radio show
back in the day, and some of the stories he
can tell. I mean, every comedian who ends up successful
can tell you about the worst gigs they ever did.
You got it really grind in almost any field. I mean, Buck,
I have done a lot. I've talked about this before.
I've done a lot of shows at gas stations. I
(23:00):
mean I did live radio shows in gas stations, and
I used to have Now it's kind of funny to
talk about, but it wasn't even gas stations that were
in good neighborhoods, you know how like, there are nice
gas stations and you go in and you're like, oh,
this bathroom's probably clean. I did radio shows where you
walk into a gas station and you're like, I don't
(23:21):
even want to use the bathroom here. I don't even
want to put my hand on the gas pump.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like you you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Walk in and I'm just sitting there at a fold
out table in a random gas station doing a radio show.
There is you know, some of these are remotes are very,
very funny, and a lot of these comedians have been
through those experiences. So Jennifer is saying, I just saw
Nate here in Jacksonville with three of my daughters, my
son in law, and husband.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Buck podcast listener Kevin says he loves when you get
fired up.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
This is CC.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
I absolutely love it when you guys get on topic.
It gets Buck so far that he cusses on the air.
It cracks me up because he's usually so buttoned up
a squared away and then plays the wild one with
someone like Comy just gets under his skin and you
can feel it coming through the radio.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Man, It's fantastic, true fauci, Like if you were going
to curse. There are a few names I could give
where I would put odds on you cursing just based
on the topic, because you do legitimately get so angry.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, no, it's the steak in the Lions Den Fauci
Comy Clay knows this is true. This is not an act.
Those guys get me, man, it is. It is accurate,
and it does get me. H. You know, it's it's
like the Hulk. You don't want to see me when
I'm angry, you know, I start turning green.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Let me hit you with this too, because some of
you were listening with Ryan Gurdusky and he was sharing
a news story that just came down, and I actually
think it's an interesting question. And I'm not claiming to
know the answer, but I think a lot of you
probably have thought about this at some point in time.
The new Jersey governor candidate for the Democrats, Mikey Cheryl.
(25:04):
This is a story that just came out. She was
prohibited from walking, and that Gardesky referenced, So I want
to make sure we get this right. She was prohibited
from walking with her class at the US Naval Academy
commencement ceremony in nineteen ninety four. As a punishment connected
to a cheating scandal that implicated about one hundred and
(25:26):
thirty midshipmen in her class. I vaguely remember this story
buck about the fact that the Naval Academy and some
of the military academies had cheating scandals that had happened.
This was nineteen ninety four. She was not allowed to
walk with her graduating class. Now, I'm gonna be honest
with you. That is am I doing the math here right?
(25:47):
That is basically thirty one years ago. I think I'm
right on that thirty one ish years ago. If I'm
doing my math live on the air, right, I don't
know where the statute of limitations is when we go
back in people's past and we say, oh, I'm not
voting for someone because of X or Y to me.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I'm just speaking for me.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And by the way, that story from the New Jersey Globe,
it is out there, the New Jersey Globe reporting that story.
There are lots of reasons why I think I would
not be voting for Mikey Cheryl if I lived in
New Jersey. Her college graduation ceremony from nineteen ninety four
is nowhere near the top of my list. Now you
might say, Okay, this is evocative of why we can't
(26:30):
trust her today because there's other things she's done since then.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
But I don't know where you come down.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But if I find out somebody thirty years ago had
an issue in college, I'm not judging them based on that,
whether they're a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. Maybe some
of you out there disagree with that, but I don't
know where the statute of limitations is on going back
into people's background. But for me, over thirty years ago
college graduation ceremony, there are lots of reasons why I
(26:58):
think she's the wrong choice for New Jersey. It wouldn't
be because of something that happened when she was twenty
one or twenty two.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
They wouldn't extend the same grace to our side, just
truth clear, they would not. So this is this is
where we get to, is it. Do you want to
be nice the nice person or do you want to
be the person that insists on consequences for both sides
under similar rules?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So, yeah we will. So that story is out.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I just wanted to make sure we got it correct
because we kind of talked about it at the top.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Of this hour. Yes, no, it is absolutely odd. I'm
I think New Jersey is going to be very very
uh close, And I actually think I think the Republican can.
I think Chitdarelly can win this race just based on
everything I've seen through with Ryan just said, and I'm
I'm leaning super narrow wind for the Republican there. I am.
I am worried about the fantastic winsome sears in Virginia
(27:53):
that that is more of a concern for me because
Spamberger is the perfect Democrat in a purple date. Insofar
as what does.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
She stand for, I don't know, kind of you know,
seems fine.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I guess you know, she's a Democratic. So it's probably
nice to people.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Biden twenty twenty campaign, where they're going to say she's
very middle of the road, she's very moderate. I think
this is why hitting her on this crazy policy of
men and women's sports. But even worse, this is me
even worse I think than men and women's sports, which
I think is indefensible and should not occur, men and
women's locker rooms. I mean, this is I don't understand
(28:35):
how any man, particularly any man in America can think
that's Okay, Now, women I think are being taken advantage
of their toxic empathy here.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
To Oh, well, the men are women too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
But I don't think there's a man listening to us
right now that is thinking to himself, you know what,
I'm totally fine with a dude being in my daughter,
my granddaughter, my wife's locker room. I mean, this is
criminal behavior and it's not empathy at all. The guy
should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law. Any guy that tries to pull this. I'm sorry.
(29:12):
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And yet we know that she will just make sure
between now and the election, Spanberger will not give a
definitive answer on this one the other and will allow
the media to carry, you know, to carry the water
for her and just make sure that people think about how,
oh she's good on like women's rights and like reproductive
health and and she wants, you know, more investment. And
(29:35):
this is very vague. You notice is too. Democrats when
it comes close to election time again, in a contested election.
Right now, they're not doing this in San Francisco, but
in a contested election, Democrats get very vague and very
non committal and then hope that the media can, you know,
patch up the little holes that start to emerge when
(29:56):
people realize this is, by the way, this was the
Commonalist strategy as chief homologist. This was the Kamalist strategy.
It was don't really say or do anything for a while,
and then hope the media just tells everybody how great
you are and that that's enough, and they run this
playbook over and over again. I mean, you can say
a lot of things about Trump. The guy says what
(30:16):
he thinks, and he says what he's gonna do, and
the Democrats do not. Joe Biden lied about what his
entire presidency was really going to be. Joe Biden ran
on being a uniter and then gave that speech with
the red lights and the Marines in the background, basically saying,
you know, get the vax or you're at public enemy
number one. I mean, you know, he was a jerk
(30:37):
and a dementia patient. It's bad. Not a good combo. No,
not good. I think that was pretty that's pretty clear.
This is, by the way. We got another cut of
span Berger, the different one than we had the other day.
This is cut twenty one. This is with a reporter
from Lynchburg, Virginia. Let's hear what she said.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
If a bill landed on your desk and it had
to do with restrooms or sports in this sua, I mean,
would you support a bill that allowed this if it
landed on your desk, I would support a bill that
would put clear provisions in place that provide a lot
of local ability for input based on the age of children,
based on the type of sport, based on competitiveness, Because
(31:16):
certainly I.
Speaker 12 (31:16):
Recognize, I absolutely recognize. I'm the mom of three daughters
in Virginia public schools. They participate in all activities across
the board. I recognize the concern that families and community
members might have about the safety of their own kids,
about competitiveness, about fairness, And I think that what the
process that was in place for ten years was one
that was working, was one that you know, took individual
(31:39):
circumstances and individual communities into account.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Clay play, this is actually the perfect answer insofar as
it is a series of emotions tied together with prepositions
that says nothing, yes, just you know.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Oh yeah, complicated, Oh yeah, I have kids. Oh I'm
thinking about the tough things here what are you going
to do, lady?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You want to be governor?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, it's actually the Gavin Newsom answer to a large extent,
like remember when he did Sean Ryan Show and he
said you can do the evil Keanu impersonation here. But
he basically said, I hear you. I that's a legitimate concern.
You know, okay, But that's such a political answer. I
don't care whether you hear me. I don't care whether
(32:26):
you consider it to be a legitimate concern. You're the
executive in charge of the state. Tell me what you
believe on this issue or try to hide, which tells
me everything I know about your beliefs on this issue.
You're too much of a coward to actually say, as
(32:48):
a mom of three girls, what you should say, which
is this is completely unacceptable and I'm not going to
allow it. Which guess what is what wins Sears is saying.
It's what Glenn young Kid has said. This is not
a tough question. It's only tough if you're a liar
and you're trying to pretend that this is not an
(33:09):
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All right, third hour klaan Buck kicks off. Now, our
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He does the deep dive nerdiness numbers analysis that you
need to know to understand the politics of this country.
Right now, our friend Ryan Gradusky is with us. Mister Gradusky,
(00:21):
thanks for making the time. Let's start with some of
these numbers. I'm seeing some interesting stuff out of New Jersey. Now,
you're a Northeast guy like me, The idea of Republicans
even being competitive in New Jersey seems like it's too
good to be true. What are the numbers telling us
about this? And Clay's one of his favorite candidates is Chitterrelly,
(00:43):
So how's this all looking.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I've got us on FCC watch because I can't pronounce
his name correctly, Ryan, and so just be be aware.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So let's go over some background information again with Democrats.
Start off with an eight hundred and sixty thousand voter
advantage in the gardens. Now, you may say, Ryan, that's
a lot of voters. Yes, but it is down significantly
from November twenty twenty one, the last time Jack Chittarelli
ran for governor. Republicans in the last four years since
the last governor's election have gained one hundred and sixty
(01:13):
two thousand new voters, while Democrats have lost forty seven
thousand voters in an election that Chitarelly lost by only
eighty four thousand votes. If you look at the polls first.
Un for the polls, there were seven polls recently. Overall,
Mickey Cheryl, the Democratic nominee, has led in five of them,
averaging a lead of five point five points. But the
(01:34):
last two polls by credited polsters that have come out
said that Chitarelly is either tied or winning. A national
research poll which was funded by his campaign, so it's
an internal campaign number has him leading by a point
and is up by twenty one points normally internal polling. Obviously,
they slammed some things towards their candidate. But Emerson, which
has been on a roller coaster streak of good polling
(01:54):
it lately, they came out with a poll just today
finding the race tied, and they all was said that
Chittarelli is leading by twenty six points among independents, so
there's consistency there. It's not all good news because the
group of undecided voters overwhelmingly lean Democrat, a lot of minorities,
a lot of women. The problem for Mickey Cheryl is
(02:16):
this minority voters in urban New Jersey do not like her.
They voted overwhelmingly against her in the last oh and
in the primary. She comes from a small town where
the median income is well over one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars a year, and she had a disastrous interview
on the Breakfast Club where she couldn't describe how she
made seven million dollars in profit selling stocks, which she
(02:38):
was fined for because she was selling well. She was
on on the house appropriations for the military contracts. That
has been a huge, huge problem. Democrats are freak debt.
They've spent an additional one point five million dollars on
this race, twenty five million in total. Internals are showing
that she is not in a strong place, and that's
where they're putting all their hands on deck.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, how do we so a couple of things, Ryan,
and I know some of you from New Jersey are
going to know this, but I actually think it got
snowed under Trump lost New Jersey by about five points.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He lost Virginia by about five points.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's where both of the governor's races that are going
to be tappening in about six weeks are taking place.
Ryan the Trump team believes that if they had had
Kamala Harris money, that is, they could have just sprayed
money everywhere like Kamala did, that they could have won
in Virginia, they could have won in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Do you buy it?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And do we know if the current candidates in New
Jersey and Virginia are they competitive enough with dollars to
spend coming down the stretch run Here as a lot
of people that are not political obsessives become aware these governors'
races are going on.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well it's great you mentioned Trump. So there's an inverse
problem happening between New Jersey and Virginia. In Virginia win
some series, they're Republican nominee is trying to nationalize this election.
She is making this specifically about trans girls playing biological
female sports. It is her number one issue. She is
talking about it consistently and is what her ads are
(04:12):
focusing on. Inversely, in New Jersey, the Democrat Mickey Cheryl
is making this entire election about Trump. Just today, there
was a newsbreaking story a little while ago that she
was not allowed to walk in the US Naval Academy
commencement speech because she cheated one hundred and thirty times
in her class. That was sorry, in place of one
hundred and thirty people, she cheated and she could not
(04:32):
walk in her graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Although let me let me rephrase that, Ryan, because I
think it was a little bit. I think she was
part of a group of one hundred and thirty people
that was accused of cheating on tests that were not
allowed to walk. Not she cheated one hundred and thirty times.
I think the Naval Academy would probably say, hey, I
don't know what the number is, but I think you
get kicked out.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
My apologizes, Yes, that is true. She was with one
hundred and thirty people, So she had made this election
about Trump. She blamed Jack Chittarelli for this story coming out,
saying he's part of the Trump cabal to release information.
Jack Chiarelli has focused specifically on affordability and electricity costs.
Electricity costs are the number one issue in both Virginia
(05:14):
and New Jersey's election. Incidentally, enough electricity costs are skyrocking
in both places. The difference between New Jersey and Virginia
is the elasticity of the electorate. So Virginia's electric because
it is much blacker and black in America has a
lower level of They move far, far, far less than
Hispanics or whites do. It is a less there's less
(05:36):
elesticity for the Republicans to make big, big gains. The
questions do they show up at all? There's also a
lot of uh, you know, quote unquote awfuls, which is
like angry white female liberals. There's a lot more in Virginia,
and there's a lot of people angry over the elon
cuts to federal jobs. New Jersey doesn't have that problem,
and Chittarelli has been more centralized on the affordability question
(05:58):
and on the tax question. Cheryl had an absolutely abominable
debate performance where where she would not commit to not
raising taxes in the middle class and she would not
explain once again how she made seven million dollars on
a stock trade. Both those clips went viral. It's been very,
very bad. Everything that is breaking in someone's favor is
Chitdarelly Childarelly's campaign in the last forty five days have
(06:20):
reminded me more of Glenn Youngkins than when some series
when some seiers is really just trying to get the
Trump face out and she's had a mixed record on
having that ability.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Can you break down for as a little bit, Ryan,
I thought that was really interesting and I'd seen some
headlines around this, the skyrocketing electricity price, as that's generally
not something you think of as a top election issue
at the state level, but that that is in two
different states, in these two critical governors' races. I think
it's very interesting. Part of it, as I understand it
is data center usage and essentially places getting ready for
(06:55):
AI or wanting to be more part of the AI race,
and also to store all this data on line. Part
of it is natural gas prices. So there's a few
things coming into it. But how are the various campaigns
handling this, Because always think it's so funny the Democrats
their only idea for how to make electricity price is
less expensive involve finding more expensive forms of electricity like solar.
(07:18):
I mean, I don't know what they think they're going
to do, So how's that playing out?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right? So it is the number one issue in both
New Jersey and Virginia and AI center. So our data
centers are the main culture. Data centers take about twenty
five percent of Virginia's electricity one and four. They've added
about twenty million homes using power through data centers. In
New Jerseys, data centers are responsible for seventy percent of
the increased prices in electricity. Jack Turiuelli is talking about
(07:44):
having tax cuts for the middle class and about trying
to have more alternative alternative in a form of solar,
but really looking at increasing natural gas subsidies or anything
he can just sit there and try to get prices
lower through using taxes in the state. Abigail Spamberger over
in Virginia, she's actually the only candidate running statewide who
(08:05):
is pointed to data centers and saying we need to
figure out how to deal with this increase in the
cost of electricity through data centers, and she's the one
who's point of the finger when since here's really hasn't
spoken about data centers or electricity prices nearly as much,
focusing much more on national issues to try to really
drive out lower propensity voters. And I have a number
on that Virginia does not have the does not have
(08:29):
party registration like New Jersey does, so you're not a
registered Republican or Agiodemocrat. But among modeling companies, companies that
model whether you're likely to be a Republican or a Democrat,
Republicans have done a much better job at turning out
people who have either never voted and are likely. Republicans
are only voted once in the last four elections than
Democrats have. So if that's her game plan, by bringing
(08:50):
out lower Penscity voters, it's showing a little bit of traction.
But Democrats outside of Richmond and in the northern part
of the state and the outside of DC are really
aniela gangbusters, especially in the Richmond suburbs.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Let's go to the New York City mayor's race, because
a lot of our WOR listeners are plugged in on
this Ryan. We still haven't gotten any movement from from
anyone to drop out, whether it's Eric Adams, Curtis Lee,
Andrew Cuomo, and as I'm looking right now at Polymarket,
they have an eighty seven percent chance that Mom Donnie
(09:26):
is elected mayor. Is there any reason right now in
your mind to expect any kind of movement there, or
if you kind of resign yourself to mom Donnie is
going to be the next New York City.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Mayor MND Donnie's been the next city mayor unless Eric
Adams and Curtis Lee would drop out. I mean, and
we've had more polling out of New York City than
either Virginia or New Jersey at this point. Polsters love
pulling New York. It's an interesting race. The problem is
in this fractured field, it needs to be a head
on head competition, and all polsters agree a head to
head competition between Cuomo and Donnie shows a competitive race,
(10:02):
and we don't know who would win. But Cuomo has
run one of the most god awful campaigns I could imagine.
He's made no concessions to Republicans to try to win
them over whatsoever. And Eric Adams is still hanging around
around seven or eight percent, mostly among Jewish and Black
voters who would otherwise be voting for Cuomo. So it's
really been some of the worst campaigning I've ever seen,
(10:24):
especially from Cuomo, and Courtesy was had essentially no campaign
as ie from going the same five places over and
over and over. Again, he's pulling somewhere in the load
to mid teams and it's really kind of fizzled out.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So okay, do you buy buck? And I have kind
of debated this that mom Donnie could have an impact
in the twenty twenty six mid terms if he is
the face of the Democrat party or do you think
he's really not that well known outside of New York City?
What is his impact? Let's say he wins. Obviously he's
not a citizen, i mean born American citizen, so he's
(10:59):
not eligible to run for instance, for president, thankfully, sadly,
given how much support he has among Democrats, does he
have national residence next year in your mind if he
wins in New York City or not?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Absolutely. I Mean there's the reason why Fox News is
the only who covers his speeches live and they don't
do it for any New York to the politician, and
they want to Republicans definitely want to make him the face,
which is why Hakeem Jeffries still won't endorse him, despite
Kathy Hochele endorsing him. And it'll be a big question
going to twenty twenty six if they sit there and
try to play spoiler man Donnie made a comment saying,
(11:34):
I'm not promising to reindorse Kathy Hogel or any other Democrat.
So they very much want to play. And I spoke
to some Democratic consultants who are very, very smart, and
the question they said, they said this, it is not
a question of if, like an aoc or Mandanni type
of person will be the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight.
It's a matter of when. It is just a matter
(11:56):
of timing. All the movement is on the progressive side,
and they are absolutely going to make Mundonni the face
of it. And he's you know, he's charming to some people,
He's charismatic to some people. He does have some ability
political ability that I do notice. But his policies are
absolutely insane, especially around policing, and he's going to, especially
in the Northeast, is going to be very problematic for Democrats.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So is it your view that he will be as
insane as we are worried he will be if he
becomes the mayor of New York, Like, will he actually
do these policies or is this just to get the
sizzle going? But he'll have to deal with the reality
of trying to govern eight and a half million people.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, he has limitations because the governor has a lot
of control over New York City, so it's not like
he's it's not like he's the president of the King
of the city. There are certain things that he can
do that I expect him to do on day one.
He also is the problem. The federal government is going
to be breathing down his neck on certain issues, like
the idea that he's going to be able to kick
ice agents out of the city is just not realistic whatsoever.
(12:56):
On certain things. He's going to be pretty horrific. On
other things, he can't fulfill half of those promises because
he doesn't have the ability or the wherewithal to do so. So,
I mean, I think that he's gonna be a worst
mayor than build a Blasio. But I mean, that's what
that's what's happening right now in New York.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Go check out It's a numbers game comes out every
week on the Claybook podcast network. Ryan Gerdusky is the
excellent host. Ryan, thanks for breaking it all down for us.
Great stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
All right, welcome back in here to play and Buck.
Sorry you were supposed to bring us in there, Clay,
but I told her that's all right. Whose turn it was?
Some people are mad at us. We got people who
are mad at us, so we could always go to that.
I don't know, I just always assume they're mad at you.
I don't know that might be true. Maybe they are,
maybe they're not. Brad from San Diego the she is
a talkback ee listens on co Goo play.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
It, Hey book. My name's Brad from San Diego. I'm
going to be in Taiwan next week. And when you're there,
bring my tennis recket and uh check out your ninety
seven mile hours brand.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's it's clocked at ninety seven. That's not that's not
like a best and final. It's going to be very
clear about that. All right, this this this bed is
not over all right, this is I'll just point out
I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Probably Buck's going to say, oh, the weather's not going
to be great in Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Not sure I'll be able to get out. It is
typhoon season there, mister Clay, So you're being sorry that
I'm sorry that, you know, fifty inches of rain in
a day or something is makes it a little harder
to play excuses.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's what it sounds like to me. Let's go by
the way. Let's go ahead and let him in. I
don't know how to pronounce this name. Do you know
New York City?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
There?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You're better at positiation. Is it Odin? Odin? Like the
Norse guy?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They confused me by saying like the Norse guard god there,
because I was like, is it a way that I
wouldn't expected to be that way?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Hold on a second, Odin. People always ask me this,
and it's my middle name, But is Odin your actual name?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yes? Odin is my actual name?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
O D I N That is very cool. I'm gonna
tell you that's that's like legit. That's like your first
name being thor. I'm a fan. All right, what do
you want to talk to us about? Odin? Fellers?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
You guys are hurting usin Yorkers. We're not in the
business I thought of suppressing votes. I am a Republican.
I would vote for Eric Adams because we know what
Cuomo did when he was governor. He killed fourteen thousand people.
I don't want Cuomo as my mayor. Okay, Slee won't.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Unfortunately, he won't get enough votes.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
The math just ain't math to him.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
So I'd stick with the devil I know which is
mayor Adams.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, but you actually hold on, Odin, we're not suppressing.
You actually agree with this that if everybody stays in,
Curtis Slee was gonna win.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I mean, I mean sorry that mom Donnie's gonna win.
That would be great. But yeah, yeah, Matt, you agree
with us, right.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
If everybody stays in, I don't know what will happen
because the Great Rush Limbo always told me poles are
designed to sway public opinions.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We don't, we're not okay, we're not talking about the polls.
What I cited was poly market. You can right now, Odin,
go to polymarket dot com. There is a ninety percent
chance in the gambling markets that Mom Donnie is gonna win.
If you disagree with that, you can go make a
ton of money betting on Sliwa, betting on Adams, or
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betting on.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Cuomo.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
If you think one of those three guys is gonna win,
put your money where your mouth is go in the market.
All I'm telling you is what the market is saying.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
This is the problem. You don't live in New York.
You don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
This is the problem.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You live in Tennessee. You don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I care. My whole family still lives in New York.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I would love if the Communists didn't win in every
election anywhere in the country. I'm just telling you, mom,
Donnie is a huge favorite. Right now, he's angry.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I think Odin's throwing a bolt of lightning at you play,
so deal with it.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Look Odin, I gotta win for you here, no matter
where you live in the country. Jalen Hurt's gonna get
more than one half passing yards. That is a guaranteed win.
Kyler Murray more than one half passing touchdowns tonight. Sam
Darnold more than one half passing touchdowns. If I'm right,
that pays out at two and a half to one.
(18:31):
If you go right now to prizepicks dot com, use
my name Clay, download the app, go to the website.
Whatever you want to do. California, Florida, Georgia. Get hooked
up today, Odin and everybody else Prizepicks, dot Com Code
Clay were winning two and a half to one tonight.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Several different things. One I want to clean up.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm not one hundred percent sure that polymarket is legal
in the United States right now, I know they're moving
towards legality.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So if you want.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
To bet on politics, the website that is one hundred
percent legal is Calshi. You just heard me talking with Odin.
He was upset. I'm not citing polls when I am
citing these gambling markets. That means if you think they're wrong,
then you can go in and you can take another side,
(19:22):
just like you can in any sporting event. So, right
now in New York City, because I want to get
it exactly right, I am on the Calshi website.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It is one hundred percent legal.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Mom Donnie has an eighty seven percent chance of winning,
Andrew Cuomo has a thirteen percent chance of winning. Eric
Adams has under one percent chance of winning, and Kurtis
Sleewa has under one percent chance of winning. So you
have the ability to put your money where your mouth is.
(19:53):
The data reflects, and I think we're true on this,
and I'm not trying to hide the ball or make
people angry in New York. By shit it, Mam Donnie
right now is a huge favorite to be elected the
next mayor of New York City. The numbers reflect that
if Adams, Sliwa, and Cuomo all stay in the race,
(20:14):
there is virtually a zero percent chance, by and large,
that anybody other than Mom Donnie is going to win.
That's the reality telling you, hey, somebody else is going
to win, like they're being underrated. I'm not citing polls.
I'm just telling you what the markets are saying right now,
and Mom Donnie.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Is a huge favorite.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Now, what Odin may have been referencing is I've made
the argument that New York picking an awful mayor could
actually help nationwide in the twenty twenty six midterms. That's
why Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, also New Yorkers, the
House of Representatives minority leader and the Senate Minority leader,
(20:58):
why they have tried to avoid in we're seeing Mom
Donnie so far because they think that he is a
bad look for the national Democrat brand.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think Odin is also upset that you're acting like
Loki in this scenario and bringing us closer to political Ragnarok.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
That is such a nerdy analogy that I can't help
but respect it. I don't know what percentage of people
out there are nodding. I think it's a small percentage,
but it is. If you are aware with what is
going on in that universe, you are going to be superval.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We got some big Norse mythology buffs in the audience.
They're like, yeah, Buck, tell them, And.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I think some of them out there are probably just
Marvel fans.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Oh yeah, it's much more likely to be Marvel than
It's funny. I know about it more from Norse mythology,
which I studied in school for a while, than the
Marvel movies, which I have seen almost none of.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I've seen all the Marvel movies. So when you say
Loki or you say Thor, I immediately think or Odin.
I immediately think of the Marvel movies out there. Okay,
we got a bunch of different people who want a
way in, and let's see VIP email from Jennifer Agree
on natepar Gatsy.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Buck was saying, hey, go see this guy. Great comedian.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He's super famous, not like we're basically telling you, hey,
you know what's a you should drink a coke. I mean,
Nate's gotten so famous that almost everybody knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But I've been saying he's good on the show. I mean,
I know you've known him for a decade and so
you've always thought he was good. But I'm saying it's
been years now. Yeah, So I feel like I liked
the band early, Like I like the band before they
were playing the super Bowl, and now he's playing the
super Bowl. Well, I'm just excited to see a success because.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He would come on my local sports talk radio show
back in the day, and some of the stories he
can tell. I mean, every comedian who ends up successful
can tell you about the worst gigs they ever did.
You got it really grind in almost any field. I mean, Buck,
I have done a lot. I've talked about this before.
I've done a lot of shows at gas stations. I
(23:00):
mean I did live radio shows in gas stations, and
I used to have Now it's kind of funny to
talk about, but it wasn't even gas stations that were
in good neighborhoods, you know how like, there are nice
gas stations and you go in and you're like, oh,
this bathroom's probably clean. I did radio shows where you
walk into a gas station and you're like, I don't
(23:21):
even want to use the bathroom here. I don't even
want to put my hand on the gas pump.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like you you.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Walk in and I'm just sitting there at a fold
out table in a random gas station doing a radio show.
There is you know, some of these are remotes are very,
very funny, and a lot of these comedians have been
through those experiences. So Jennifer is saying, I just saw
Nate here in Jacksonville with three of my daughters, my
son in law, and husband.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
We loved it.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Buck podcast listener Kevin says he loves when you get
fired up.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
This is CC.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
I absolutely love it when you guys get on topic.
It gets Buck so far that he cusses on the air.
It cracks me up because he's usually so buttoned up
a squared away and then plays the wild one with
someone like Comy just gets under his skin and you
can feel it coming through the radio.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Man, It's fantastic, true fauci, Like if you were going
to curse. There are a few names I could give
where I would put odds on you cursing just based
on the topic, because you do legitimately get so angry.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yes, no, it's the steak in the Lions Den Fauci
Comy Clay knows this is true. This is not an act.
Those guys get me, man, it is. It is accurate,
and it does get me. H. You know, it's it's
like the Hulk. You don't want to see me when
I'm angry, you know, I start turning green.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Let me hit you with this too, because some of
you were listening with Ryan Gurdusky and he was sharing
a news story that just came down, and I actually
think it's an interesting question. And I'm not claiming to
know the answer, but I think a lot of you
probably have thought about this at some point in time.
The new Jersey governor candidate for the Democrats, Mikey Cheryl.
(25:04):
This is a story that just came out. She was
prohibited from walking, and that Gardesky referenced, So I want
to make sure we get this right. She was prohibited
from walking with her class at the US Naval Academy
commencement ceremony in nineteen ninety four. As a punishment connected
to a cheating scandal that implicated about one hundred and
(25:26):
thirty midshipmen in her class. I vaguely remember this story
buck about the fact that the Naval Academy and some
of the military academies had cheating scandals that had happened.
This was nineteen ninety four. She was not allowed to
walk with her graduating class. Now, I'm gonna be honest
with you. That is am I doing the math here right?
(25:47):
That is basically thirty one years ago. I think I'm
right on that thirty one ish years ago. If I'm
doing my math live on the air, right, I don't
know where the statute of limitations is when we go
back in people's past and we say, oh, I'm not
voting for someone because of X or Y to me.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I'm just speaking for me.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And by the way, that story from the New Jersey Globe,
it is out there, the New Jersey Globe reporting that story.
There are lots of reasons why I think I would
not be voting for Mikey Cheryl if I lived in
New Jersey. Her college graduation ceremony from nineteen ninety four
is nowhere near the top of my list. Now you
might say, Okay, this is evocative of why we can't
(26:30):
trust her today because there's other things she's done since then.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
But I don't know where you come down.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
But if I find out somebody thirty years ago had
an issue in college, I'm not judging them based on that,
whether they're a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. Maybe some
of you out there disagree with that, but I don't
know where the statute of limitations is on going back
into people's background. But for me, over thirty years ago
college graduation ceremony, there are lots of reasons why I
(26:58):
think she's the wrong choice for New Jersey. It wouldn't
be because of something that happened when she was twenty
one or twenty two.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
They wouldn't extend the same grace to our side, just
truth clear, they would not. So this is this is
where we get to, is it. Do you want to
be nice the nice person or do you want to
be the person that insists on consequences for both sides
under similar rules?
Speaker 10 (27:21):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
So, yeah we will. So that story is out.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I just wanted to make sure we got it correct
because we kind of talked about it at the top.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Of this hour. Yes, no, it is absolutely odd. I'm
I think New Jersey is going to be very very
uh close, And I actually think I think the Republican can.
I think Chitdarelly can win this race just based on
everything I've seen through with Ryan just said, and I'm
I'm leaning super narrow wind for the Republican there. I am.
I am worried about the fantastic winsome sears in Virginia
(27:53):
that that is more of a concern for me because
Spamberger is the perfect Democrat in a purple date. Insofar
as what does.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
She stand for, I don't know, kind of you know,
seems fine.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I guess you know, she's a Democratic. So it's probably
nice to people.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Biden twenty twenty campaign, where they're going to say she's
very middle of the road, she's very moderate. I think
this is why hitting her on this crazy policy of
men and women's sports. But even worse, this is me
even worse I think than men and women's sports, which
I think is indefensible and should not occur, men and
women's locker rooms. I mean, this is I don't understand
(28:35):
how any man, particularly any man in America can think
that's Okay, Now, women I think are being taken advantage
of their toxic empathy here.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
To Oh, well, the men are women too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
But I don't think there's a man listening to us
right now that is thinking to himself, you know what,
I'm totally fine with a dude being in my daughter,
my granddaughter, my wife's locker room. I mean, this is
criminal behavior and it's not empathy at all. The guy
should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law. Any guy that tries to pull this. I'm sorry.
(29:12):
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And yet we know that she will just make sure
between now and the election, Spanberger will not give a
definitive answer on this one the other and will allow
the media to carry, you know, to carry the water
for her and just make sure that people think about how,
oh she's good on like women's rights and like reproductive
health and and she wants, you know, more investment. And
(29:35):
this is very vague. You notice is too. Democrats when
it comes close to election time again, in a contested election.
Right now, they're not doing this in San Francisco, but
in a contested election, Democrats get very vague and very
non committal and then hope that the media can, you know,
patch up the little holes that start to emerge when
(29:56):
people realize this is, by the way, this was the
Commonalist strategy as chief homologist. This was the Kamalist strategy.
It was don't really say or do anything for a while,
and then hope the media just tells everybody how great
you are and that that's enough, and they run this
playbook over and over again. I mean, you can say
a lot of things about Trump. The guy says what
(30:16):
he thinks, and he says what he's gonna do, and
the Democrats do not. Joe Biden lied about what his
entire presidency was really going to be. Joe Biden ran
on being a uniter and then gave that speech with
the red lights and the Marines in the background, basically saying,
you know, get the vax or you're at public enemy
number one. I mean, you know, he was a jerk
(30:37):
and a dementia patient. It's bad. Not a good combo. No,
not good. I think that was pretty that's pretty clear.
This is, by the way. We got another cut of
span Berger, the different one than we had the other day.
This is cut twenty one. This is with a reporter
from Lynchburg, Virginia. Let's hear what she said.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
If a bill landed on your desk and it had
to do with restrooms or sports in this sua, I mean,
would you support a bill that allowed this if it
landed on your desk, I would support a bill that
would put clear provisions in place that provide a lot
of local ability for input based on the age of children,
based on the type of sport, based on competitiveness, Because
(31:16):
certainly I.
Speaker 12 (31:16):
Recognize, I absolutely recognize. I'm the mom of three daughters
in Virginia public schools. They participate in all activities across
the board. I recognize the concern that families and community
members might have about the safety of their own kids,
about competitiveness, about fairness, And I think that what the
process that was in place for ten years was one
that was working, was one that you know, took individual
(31:39):
circumstances and individual communities into account.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Clay play, this is actually the perfect answer insofar as
it is a series of emotions tied together with prepositions
that says nothing, yes, just you know.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Oh yeah, complicated, Oh yeah, I have kids. Oh I'm
thinking about the tough things here what are you going
to do, lady?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You want to be governor?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, it's actually the Gavin Newsom answer to a large extent,
like remember when he did Sean Ryan Show and he
said you can do the evil Keanu impersonation here. But
he basically said, I hear you. I that's a legitimate concern.
You know, okay, But that's such a political answer. I
don't care whether you hear me. I don't care whether
(32:26):
you consider it to be a legitimate concern. You're the
executive in charge of the state. Tell me what you
believe on this issue or try to hide, which tells
me everything I know about your beliefs on this issue.
You're too much of a coward to actually say, as
(32:48):
a mom of three girls, what you should say, which
is this is completely unacceptable and I'm not going to
allow it. Which guess what is what wins Sears is saying.
It's what Glenn young Kid has said. This is not
a tough question. It's only tough if you're a liar
and you're trying to pretend that this is not an
(33:09):
actual issue.
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What you got for us, Scuba, gentlemen, longtime listener a
rush Era on my sixth Easy guys, thanks for keeping
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Speaker 4 (35:51):
Whoshi now?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Because you did your show there? And fuck ms Spamberger
is also she said first day she's gonna so Youngkin's
ordered about work with ice. So that's a mess. But
dving from that, gentlemen, I wanted your opinion. I'm heading
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Speaker 1 (36:08):
A you got thirty seconds Scooter Steve before the show ends,
all right?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
I'm holding that for a program beer where I think
they should have veterans who are retired and honorable discharge.
I think they should stand to watch with some of
these schools and paying by tax. Really, we have thirty
thousand people right here in Cheste eight. We can put
eight hundred veterans at forty four of the schools and
just stand to watch. You wouldn't have anybody coming in
and prompts, and you wouldn't have anybody going on those
(36:33):
locker rooms.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I love the idea of everybody having security at schools, Buck,
I've been in favor of it all my kids. Public
schools have had armed security. I think every school in
America should have armed security to protect kids.
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