June 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and thought-provoking discussion centered on the evolving relationship between President Donald Trump and tech mogul Elon Musk. Clay opens the hour by revisiting the political and psychological dimensions of the Trump-Elon fallout, emphasizing the strategic importance of their alliance for the future of American innovation, free speech, and political discourse. Travis argues that President Trump, currently serving his second term, and Elon Musk—who endorsed Trump following the 2024 assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania—have forged a powerful, albeit young, political partnership. He explores how Musk’s acquisition of Twitter (now X) in 2022 catalyzed a transformation in the digital public square, enabling a freer marketplace of ideas crucial for American dominance in artificial intelligence and technological innovation. The hour also features a compelling interview with former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who discusses his new book, Trump’s Triumph: America’s Greatest Comeback. Gingrich contextualizes Trump’s political resurgence as historically unparalleled, comparing it to Grover Cleveland’s non-consecutive presidencies but noting Trump’s broader impact. He also weighs in on the Trump-Musk dynamic, characterizing Musk’s recent social media outburst as a “temper tantrum” and reinforcing Trump’s constitutional authority as president. Additional topics include: The legislative trajectory of the “Big Beautiful Bill” and its potential to fuel a Trump-led economic boom. The rising influence of JD Vance as a likely successor to Trumpism and a potential 2028 presidential contender. A financial segment highlighting the S&P 500’s rebound and long-term investment strategies, emphasizing the value of index funds and buy-and-hold approaches. A tribute to the 81st anniversary of D-Day and the work of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation in supporting American veterans. A lighthearted yet insightful astrology reading of Clay Travis’s birth chart, drawing parallels to President Trump’s astrological profile and offering health-related advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome Ack in final hour of the Week, Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We'll take some of your calls in the course of
the final hour of the week. Buck, We'll be back
with me on Tuesday in Washington, d C. Will be
there together. I will be in DC starting on Monday.
I had an awesome time running around all over the
(00:23):
place with my kids as school just ended. So I'm
back with you guys for a while now, up until
July fourth. For sure. We're going to be talking with
New Gingrich former Speaker of the House at the bottom
of the hour. I'm also told that our astrologer who
called in from Rochester, New York to break down the
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Trump and Elon controversy, she has also broken down my
astrology chart, and according to producer Greg, she will be
back with us at two forty five to tell us
how my prognosis looks. So fingers crossed on that that's
still to come. But I want to dive back into,
certainly the story of the day, which is the ongoing
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fallout between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and I spent
much of the first hour sort of psychologically analyzing it,
what I think brought on Elon Musk to me essentially
having its temper tantrum yesterday afternoon, Why I don't think
that there is any truth at all to the Epstein
allegation against Trump from Elon, and what I think is
(01:31):
really sort of the undercurrent of the conflict and why
it grew there. Top of the second hour, I dove
into how it impacts the so called Big Beautiful Bill
as it continues to work its way through the United
States Senate. And here I'll kind of dive back into
both of those components and explain why I think it's
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So why is it important that Trump and Elon have
a strong relationship going forward? Trump's president for the next
three and a half years, so whatever Elon is wanting
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to get done, he tweeted at some point, Hey, you've
only got Trump for the next three and a half years,
You've got me for the next forty. Maybe that's true.
I hope Elon is supremely healthy. He's fifty three years old.
I want everybody to have long and fertile lives, and
certainly Elon's had already quite a fertile life in the
literal sense and the figurative sense. But the evolution of
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Elon is important beyond Trump. And let me explain why
I think that is the case. So I want Trump
and Elon to get along well, because I believe that
since Elon endorsed Trump on July thirteenth, in the immediate
aftermath of the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt, that the country
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has benefited immensely from the partnership between Trump and Elon,
and that partnership really has only existed for about nine months. Right,
This is basically a Hollywood relationship length relationship. We have
a situation where Trump voted for Hillary Clinton in twenty
six twenty sixteen, where he voted for Joe Biden in
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twenty twenty and Elon didn't vote for Trump until July
of twenty twenty four. If you have a right now,
but I got to meet Buck and Carrey's baby in
Palm Beach, James speed Sex, then awesome little kid. He's
only a couple months old, super cute. If you have
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a let me do the math in my head. If
you have a tad to count there, you saw the
fingers move if you were watching on video. If you
have a ten month old kid or grandkid right now,
that kid is the same age as the relationship between
Trump and Elon. This is a brand new relationship. There
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is not a lot of basis behind it, and yet
it's been incredibly productive and incredibly important I believe for
the success of the country, not only now but in
the years ahead. I think the twenty twenty four election
was incredibly consequential, and I do believe that even though
Trump has said I would have won the election even
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if Elon had not gotten involved, I do believe that
Trump won a grander and more substantial election victory because
of Elon Musk's support than he would have if Elon
Musk had not endorsed it all, or if Elon Musk
had said, hey, I'm all on board for Kamala Harris.
But Elon Musk is relatively speaking, newly involved in politics.
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I believe Elon's decision to buy Twitter turn it into
x in twenty twenty two was profoundly transformative for the
trajectory of the nation, not because at that time he
espoused any particular political belief, but simply because is having
a truly robust and uninhibited marketplace of ideas is necessary
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in order for this country to flourish, particularly in an
ai age. Why do I think that, Why do I
think that we have to have a robust marketplace of ideas?
Especially in an AI age, because I believe and have
long believed, that the only way you get new, disruptive,
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positive growth economically that is transformative is by having the
full scope of the marketplace of ideas available to create tours.
In other words, if you do not have intellectual freedom,
I think your ability to create new products is stifled.
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That's why I think I don't hear nobody else make
this argument. That's why I think ultimately America stands to
dominate in AI like we have dominated in the Internet,
because I don't understand how Chinese AI can be reliable.
If the Chinese Internet does not allow me to know
about what happened in Tieneman Square, then how in the
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world can it create the best possible landscape of responses
in the future when it's being censored in terms of
the results. This is why the whole COVID universe was
so offensive to me, because science is based on challenging
all authority. The entire basis of the scientific method is
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distinguishing between a hypothesis and a theory and challenging everything.
So when you had doctor Fauci lecturing everyone and saying
I am the science, he was arguing against science himself,
because he was saying that science shouldn't be challenged. We
have to challenge everything, and the marketplace of ideas allows
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everything to be challenged, but only if it is fairly applied,
evenly from a principled perspective. And I think what Elon
saw is Elon's ultimate goal is to put men on
and women on Mars, to make us a multiplanetary species.
You can argue that you don't care about that, you
can think it's relatively inconsequential, insignificant even but that is
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the spark that is fueling Elon's obsession with everything. And
I think what he recognized was, well, maybe I can
save the United States climate to some degree by electric vehicles,
but if I don't allow the meritocracy to flourish, if
I do not allow the best man or the best
woman to get a job, if DEI triumphs, then ultimately
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it destroys our ability to make humanity a multiplanetary species,
because it doesn't unlock the great gifts of the most
talented among us and instead leads to some array of
cosmetic diversity. So you end up, frankly with Kamala Harris
and with Karine Jean Pierre. I'm not saying black women
aren't successful or can't be incredibly accomplished. Many of them can.
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I am saying you cannot hire someone based on their
race and gender and argue that that is the justification
for why they should have that position of power. Karine
Jean Pierre, you're now hearing people inside the Biden White
House say, yeah, far from being a transformative figure because
she was black and gay, she was actually really awful
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at her job and she didn't do basic homework. The
only reason Karine Jean Pierre was the White House chief
spokesperson was because she was black and gay. When you
elevate people two positions that they otherwise are unable to
achieve and can't even do the job of because of
their race and gender, then you are devaluing the meritocracy,
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which ultimately destroys everything in terms of our ability to
have the best possible result. And that, to me is
why Kamala Harris was the ultimate DEI candidate. She looks
like what people on the left think leaders should look like,
not based on anything she's done, just make based on
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the cosmetic diversity. And I think what Elon recognizes is
that the only diversity that matters in America is diversity
of thought, because why do I care if a bunch
of people who look different think the same. That's Harvard Sadly,
it's the Harvard faculty. The only thing that matters is
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whether you're getting a variety of perspectives to allow you
to make the best possible decision to get the best result.
And so I think what Elon saw when he decided
to get Twitter is that the marketplace of ideas is broken,
then the overall American marketplace collapses. And I think what
he sees with AI is the ultimate value of the
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best possible AI is going to determine the success or
failure in the future. Now, that requires moving fast, breaking
a lot of things. The government he tried to move fast,
and he tried to break a lot of things. One
of the things he said, Hey, if we get something wrong,
we'll go back and fix it. But it's better to
get something wrong and go back and fix it than
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not to do anything at all. Most people in government
actually would prefer not to do anything at all. They
don't want to really change what exists there. And so
in order for the future to matter in a substantial way,
we have to have people like Elon Musk involved because Trump,
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he's right, only has three and a half more years
in office. And I think what you're seeing already is
there is a sweepstakes developing on the right to try
to become Elon's faith candidate in twenty twenty eight, because
the idea is if Elon spent three hundred million dollars
on Trump three hundred million dollars in a Republican primary
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to help elevate his preferred candidate, could be the difference
maker between who is the nominee and who's not. Now,
the relationship between Elon and Jade Vance actually seems quite
strong because Elon said that Trump should be impeached and
jd Vance should be elevated. Now, Jadie Vance has responded
and basically said, hey, you know, Trump is doing amazing work.
(12:31):
He's an incredible guy. But this is the difficulty of
being vice president is Jade Vance posted a picture of
himself with THEO Vaughn. I guess he was in town
here in Nashville doing a podcast and doing a fundraising
event in Nashville. But the analogy is really funny that
basically JD. Vance was the kid who gets sent to
sleep over at a friend's house while mom and dad
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are fighting. And I think the importance here for Elon
going forward is he can be a force for tremendous good.
But that is the challenge as it plays out going forward.
I hope that made sense. I think it did. But
the significance of the conflict now is that Elon can
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be a tremendous force for good going forward, and we
need to make sure that he is still engaged at
a minimum, and certainly that he is not starting to
pull the levers for the other side, because then we
go back to the Twitter that happened in twenty twenty,
which was rigged, where fair and free discourse is not allowed,
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and where social media is putting its hand firmly on
the side of leftist politics. And unfortunately, I think that
leads to BLM riots. I think that leads to Joe
Biden weekend, to Bernie style presidencies. I think it leads
to immeasurable corruption. We need a fair and open marketplace
of ideas where the best ideas can win. When President
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new gingris here in a moment, new book Trump's Triumph,
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know he was weighing in on Trump and Elon see
what his latest thoughts are on that. Although I would
point out again the temper tantrum theory from Elon is
quite I think Kojin at this point because he's been very,
very quiet. Also, you're probably not going to hear this
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are joined now by former Speaker of the House New Gingrich.
He has got a brand new book out, Trump's Triumph
America's Greatest Comeback. We'll get into the Elon thing in
a sec, but Speaker Ginger, I appreciate you coming on
with this. You've been on with this several times. You
are a student of history. Is there any doubt that
Trump coming back to win the election is the greatest
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American political comeback of all time? Can you even think
of a comparison in the historical record based on your knowledge?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, both, because he was in office, lost office, got
back into office, which is tied only by Grover Cleveland
in eighteen ninety two, but even deeper, he had built
such a strong following that Trump defeated Biden and then
pivoted and a couple months later defeated Harris. No other
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candidate has defeated two major opponents in one year. And
the very fact that he's still standing. This is part
of why I wrote Trump's Triumph, which I began writing
back in October because I was convinced Who's going to win?
You think about everything they threw at him now, since
he's walked down the elevator or the escalator in twenty fifteen,
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ten years pounding away at him, and he's still standing
and now he's once again president. So it's a remarkable achievement.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Is there anybody that you even think about historically outside
of the United States? You mentioned Grover Cleveland because one
of the great things about history is one you can
learn about everybody that came before you, but you can
also try to extrapolate how people that we don' won't
know hundreds of years from now will look back. This
is really a pretty incredible era. From the moment Trump
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came down the escalator, people are going to be grappling
with his legacy for the next several hundred years.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh, I think that's right. I think, particularly if he
can win the election next year and retain the Republican
control of the House, he will, I think, enact so
much reform and change the old order so decisively that
he will rival everybody except Washington and Lincoln as the greatest,
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one of the greatest change agents in American history. And
it's truly astonishing to watch him work, to realize how
many different things he's doing at the same time, and
how determined he is to literally make America great again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Trump is the most powerful person, I think it's fair
to say in the world. Elon Musk is the richest. Yesterday,
Elon had basically what felt to me like a temper
tantrum on Twitter. He seems to have dialed it back today.
I imagine you have met Elon at some point in time.
I know you know Trump. Well, what is your take
over what happened yesterday, the relationship between the two and
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where it goes from here.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh, you have two very powerful personalities who are also
very powerful in real sources, and Trump is the most
powerful man in the world and Elon Musk is the richest.
So it's pretty interesting. I think Elon sort of had
a temper tantrum and melt it down. When you do
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forty tweets in one day, you are sort of undermining
yourself because it's hard for anyone to take you seriously
when you do that many. And I think he was
just he was angry, upset, didn't know what to do,
and acted all out in public, which I don't think
in the long run was to Elon musk advantage because
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he's you know, he has a brilliant guy. What he's
done with SpaceX for example, has single handedly put America
back in the lead in space. So he's a remarkable person.
But at the same time, he's not the president. He
didn't have seventy seven million people vote for him. He's
not in a position to wield the kind of power
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that the Constitution gives only to the president of ined States.
And I think somehow out of Marl Largo and then
hanging out at the White House, Elon forgot that he
was a supporter to the incumbent president. He wasn't an alternative.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You said, you think Trump's term in office can be
truly transformative if he's able to retain control of the House.
Republicans are in the midterms next year. What do you
think now about the squabble surrounding the so called Big
Beautiful Bill. Speaker Johnson got it through on the House side. Senate,
there are obstacles. What would your take be based on
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what you have seen of this bill? What should happen?
What will happen?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, I think it should pass, and I think it
will pass. It'll change form a little bit, and that's
ways supposed to it. Look, the founding fathers did not
want to build a machine that you could make work
so easily that a dictator could make it work. So
they designed a machine that is so hard that we
can barely get it to work voluntarily, and they would
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be very happy of that. They say, yeah, the price
of freedom is that you disperse power, So you got
to get a lot of people to sign off. Well,
that's frustrating, it's difficult. Mike Johnson has done a great
job as Speaker of the House, and frankly, he is
a senator's fun. The majority of the Senate is doing
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a terrific job, and I think that between them, they
seem to have a very good understanding. The Senate will
change the bill some some of the will actually be
an improvement, and it has to be done carefully, and
if they do it just right, I think they'll bring
the bill straight from the Senate without a conference and
end up having I would guess a vote in the
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House and it'll be close. But my hunch is that
that will end. This is the heart of the Trump project.
He has to have this bill for the economy to boom,
and I think if they get this bill through by
next June or July, will be in what will be
called the Trump boom, and we'll be creating jobs at
an unbelievable rate and take home pay will be going
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up and affordability will be increasing and people are going
to think, you know, this was worth the effort.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
How durable is Trump is in post Trump?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well, I think one of the reasons he picked JD.
Vance to be his vice president. Vance is a year
younger than Nixon was when Eisenhower picked him, and I
think one of the reasons he did it is he
wanted somebody who could carry on the basic core messages
and he thought that JD sort of had that in
his head. So I think guys are pretty good. I mean,
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one of the points of my book Trump's Triumph, the Greatest,
the American People's greatest comeback, is that he really had
a message, a machine, a movement, and a messenger come together.
That going all the way back to gold Water in
sixty four, there's been a gradual that he increase in
the desire to replace the Washington establishment, and that Trump
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came along and really focused and gave voice to the movement.
And I think that's now real. I think you're not
going to see a reversion to a traditional Republican winning
the presidency in twenty twenty eight. It's going to be
somebody who shares Trump's values, and the most likely person,
frankly JD. Events.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
For people who are interested in reading the book, what
motivated you? You said you thought Trump was going to win,
but you're a history guy too. Were you partly writing
this book to contextualize the history in real time? What
motivated You've written a lot over the years.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, so much has been going on. I wanted to
put it all in historic context. And the book both
takes you back to how Trump got here, but it
also projects forward where I think it's going to go.
And I have to say, even though we began writing
in October and finished in early February, when we went
back and reviewed the book just before its publication, the
only two things we missed were the Gulf of America
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and the desire to annex Canada and Greenmam. Other than that,
the book really did a pretty good job of capturing
where the MAGA movement was going and where Trump was going.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Speaker New Gingrits. We appreciate the time, have a good weekend.
The book Trump's Triumph, America's greatest comeback, and we hope
you're having a lot of fun on the road promoting it.
And thanks for time today. Thank you, Take care, Speaker
New Gingrits. James James Carey, that's a very big difference.
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of people in DC. Just finalize that we're going to
be with Trump in the Oval office. That will not
be awful. So we'll hear from him all about a
variety of different things going on, so that will be
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You can hear me talk about it in great detail
during the course of the program. And you may have noticed.
I believe it was at the end of the first
hour that i Anthe called in. She is an astrologer
from Rochester to analyze the Elon and Trump. You said,
I believe, I am th that Trump has Secretariat like
(31:02):
astrology from your perspective, and I was like, well, I'm
a little bit. That's the horse CD if he were
a horse.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Make people like that very often.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
If Trump wore a horse, he would be Secretariat. That
is a heck of an analogy. And if you watch,
by the way, some of those old clips Secretariat, the
numbers that Secretariat posted would still be off the charts today.
Every athlete, it seems like, has gone gotten bigger, stronger,
and faster except for horses, none of which can reach
what Secretariat did. And I said, oh, how does my
(31:32):
chart look? And so you got I was born April sixth, Nashville, Tennessee,
nineteen seventy nine. You got all that info. I've never
had my chart read. What should I know? Are people
in trouble who are listening? What should we know?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I empty, Well, I didn't look at peep peck who
were listening. That would be impossible. But I just brought
up to chart at the show from its beginning, for
you know, at twelve oh five pm on the twenty
first of Jane twenty one, and it doesn't look like
it's going anywhere. It looks pretty solid. It should have
(32:06):
an emphasis on investigative stuff and going deep. And there
may be times when there's contention. People you know, call up,
people call up and are very you know, there's there's
a lot of controversy. But you've got the Sun and
Mercury up at the Medhaven with the North Note in
the ninth house next to the Medhaven. You couldn't do
(32:28):
better than that. And you've got great people working on
it with Jupiter around the sixth house, and it's a
serious show. We who don't sat in the sixth rush
Limbaugh with the Capricorn which also which also Bucket, and
so they both are in harmony with your natal ascendant
(32:52):
and ruslim Bod's venus was in Pisces near your mercury.
So it was kind of a good fit for everybody.
Now as far as you go.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Personally, Hello, yeah, yeah, no, I'm on baited breath here
because all that was great. Yeah, well I was just
I was getting nervous because all that stuff sounds amazing.
And then you know a lot of times people are like,
you know, I really like your personality, but you know,
usually like all the good news, and then there's a
butt thrown in there, and then things go a bit
(33:28):
of skew. Am I in trouble based on the charts?
Or am I looking good? What should I know?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, you're trying to perfectly reflects you and you must
have done some good stuff on the passway. The only
thing that worries me. You're doing exactly what you should do.
You were born to be a lawyer. You were born
to be in the radio. You were boring to go
through a transition in your professional and broadcasting life with
(33:55):
that pluto in the ninth House, and you've got a
lot of strength there. You're never going to have to
worry about money. You sometimes can get very sharp verbally,
which you're supposed to. And there was some issue about
whether to practice law or not. And I suspect also
(34:17):
that you took your time deciding on to get married,
but when you did, you picked It looks like you
made a really good choice to the Southern House of marriage,
public relations, public image relations, and legal matters being a lawyer.
Not only did you need to do that, but it's
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really good for you. You've got moments you put are there.
You do some surprising things sometimes publicly, I think, did
you do something? Was there something like was a fast
to protest something? In sports?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I hate putting because I was upset because my
team wasn't wasn't available. Okay, all this is pretty good. Uh,
but what do I need to be concerned about?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, you've got the same problem as Trump in the
second house, of which is not only it's not it's
not a money problem, although you'd like to be very
concerned about finances for the sake of your family, and
I think that you may, if you don't yet, would
(35:26):
be well advised to have involvement with real estate. But
you've got the tendency to each stuff that is not
good for you.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That is all pretty accurate.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, and with enough tune up in the eleventh house.
The eleven house is a lot of things. You're very idealistic,
and you have friends who are creative and sensitive and
musical and all that good stuff there, it's probably stuff.
(36:01):
Some of your friends are probably great private people, and
you don't know everything about them. But where that next
screen is problematic. It just said it's going that has
to be eleven houses blood pressure, And it's on the
same access to the fifth house.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Of a heart, so I need to be on top
of my blood pressure and my heart. Otherwise, there we go.
Have great weekends. I love all of you.
Welcome Ack in final hour of the Week, Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We'll take some of your calls in the course of
the final hour of the week. Buck, We'll be back
with me on Tuesday in Washington, d C. Will be
there together. I will be in DC starting on Monday.
I had an awesome time running around all over the
(00:23):
place with my kids as school just ended. So I'm
back with you guys for a while now, up until
July fourth. For sure. We're going to be talking with
New Gingrich former Speaker of the House at the bottom
of the hour. I'm also told that our astrologer who
called in from Rochester, New York to break down the
(00:45):
Trump and Elon controversy, she has also broken down my
astrology chart, and according to producer Greg, she will be
back with us at two forty five to tell us
how my prognosis looks. So fingers crossed on that that's
still to come. But I want to dive back into,
certainly the story of the day, which is the ongoing
(01:07):
fallout between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and I spent
much of the first hour sort of psychologically analyzing it,
what I think brought on Elon Musk to me essentially
having its temper tantrum yesterday afternoon, Why I don't think
that there is any truth at all to the Epstein
allegation against Trump from Elon, and what I think is
(01:31):
really sort of the undercurrent of the conflict and why
it grew there. Top of the second hour, I dove
into how it impacts the so called Big Beautiful Bill
as it continues to work its way through the United
States Senate. And here I'll kind of dive back into
both of those components and explain why I think it's
(01:55):
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So why is it important that Trump and Elon have
a strong relationship going forward? Trump's president for the next
three and a half years, so whatever Elon is wanting
(03:04):
to get done, he tweeted at some point, Hey, you've
only got Trump for the next three and a half years,
You've got me for the next forty. Maybe that's true.
I hope Elon is supremely healthy. He's fifty three years old.
I want everybody to have long and fertile lives, and
certainly Elon's had already quite a fertile life in the
literal sense and the figurative sense. But the evolution of
(03:29):
Elon is important beyond Trump. And let me explain why
I think that is the case. So I want Trump
and Elon to get along well, because I believe that
since Elon endorsed Trump on July thirteenth, in the immediate
aftermath of the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt, that the country
(03:50):
has benefited immensely from the partnership between Trump and Elon,
and that partnership really has only existed for about nine months. Right,
This is basically a Hollywood relationship length relationship. We have
a situation where Trump voted for Hillary Clinton in twenty
six twenty sixteen, where he voted for Joe Biden in
(04:14):
twenty twenty and Elon didn't vote for Trump until July
of twenty twenty four. If you have a right now,
but I got to meet Buck and Carrey's baby in
Palm Beach, James speed Sex, then awesome little kid. He's
only a couple months old, super cute. If you have
(04:35):
a let me do the math in my head. If
you have a tad to count there, you saw the
fingers move if you were watching on video. If you
have a ten month old kid or grandkid right now,
that kid is the same age as the relationship between
Trump and Elon. This is a brand new relationship. There
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is not a lot of basis behind it, and yet
it's been incredibly productive and incredibly important I believe for
the success of the country, not only now but in
the years ahead. I think the twenty twenty four election
was incredibly consequential, and I do believe that even though
Trump has said I would have won the election even
(05:17):
if Elon had not gotten involved, I do believe that
Trump won a grander and more substantial election victory because
of Elon Musk's support than he would have if Elon
Musk had not endorsed it all, or if Elon Musk
had said, hey, I'm all on board for Kamala Harris.
But Elon Musk is relatively speaking, newly involved in politics.
(05:43):
I believe Elon's decision to buy Twitter turn it into
x in twenty twenty two was profoundly transformative for the
trajectory of the nation, not because at that time he
espoused any particular political belief, but simply because is having
a truly robust and uninhibited marketplace of ideas is necessary
(06:06):
in order for this country to flourish, particularly in an
ai age. Why do I think that, Why do I
think that we have to have a robust marketplace of ideas?
Especially in an AI age, because I believe and have
long believed, that the only way you get new, disruptive,
(06:30):
positive growth economically that is transformative is by having the
full scope of the marketplace of ideas available to create tours.
In other words, if you do not have intellectual freedom,
I think your ability to create new products is stifled.
(06:54):
That's why I think I don't hear nobody else make
this argument. That's why I think ultimately America stands to
dominate in AI like we have dominated in the Internet,
because I don't understand how Chinese AI can be reliable.
If the Chinese Internet does not allow me to know
about what happened in Tieneman Square, then how in the
(07:17):
world can it create the best possible landscape of responses
in the future when it's being censored in terms of
the results. This is why the whole COVID universe was
so offensive to me, because science is based on challenging
all authority. The entire basis of the scientific method is
(07:41):
distinguishing between a hypothesis and a theory and challenging everything.
So when you had doctor Fauci lecturing everyone and saying
I am the science, he was arguing against science himself,
because he was saying that science shouldn't be challenged. We
have to challenge everything, and the marketplace of ideas allows
(08:02):
everything to be challenged, but only if it is fairly applied,
evenly from a principled perspective. And I think what Elon
saw is Elon's ultimate goal is to put men on
and women on Mars, to make us a multiplanetary species.
You can argue that you don't care about that, you
can think it's relatively inconsequential, insignificant even but that is
(08:25):
the spark that is fueling Elon's obsession with everything. And
I think what he recognized was, well, maybe I can
save the United States climate to some degree by electric vehicles,
but if I don't allow the meritocracy to flourish, if
I do not allow the best man or the best
woman to get a job, if DEI triumphs, then ultimately
(08:50):
it destroys our ability to make humanity a multiplanetary species,
because it doesn't unlock the great gifts of the most
talented among us and instead leads to some array of
cosmetic diversity. So you end up, frankly with Kamala Harris
and with Karine Jean Pierre. I'm not saying black women
aren't successful or can't be incredibly accomplished. Many of them can.
(09:15):
I am saying you cannot hire someone based on their
race and gender and argue that that is the justification
for why they should have that position of power. Karine
Jean Pierre, you're now hearing people inside the Biden White
House say, yeah, far from being a transformative figure because
she was black and gay, she was actually really awful
(09:36):
at her job and she didn't do basic homework. The
only reason Karine Jean Pierre was the White House chief
spokesperson was because she was black and gay. When you
elevate people two positions that they otherwise are unable to
achieve and can't even do the job of because of
their race and gender, then you are devaluing the meritocracy,
(09:59):
which ultimately destroys everything in terms of our ability to
have the best possible result. And that, to me is
why Kamala Harris was the ultimate DEI candidate. She looks
like what people on the left think leaders should look like,
not based on anything she's done, just make based on
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the cosmetic diversity. And I think what Elon recognizes is
that the only diversity that matters in America is diversity
of thought, because why do I care if a bunch
of people who look different think the same. That's Harvard Sadly,
it's the Harvard faculty. The only thing that matters is
(10:45):
whether you're getting a variety of perspectives to allow you
to make the best possible decision to get the best result.
And so I think what Elon saw when he decided
to get Twitter is that the marketplace of ideas is broken,
then the overall American marketplace collapses. And I think what
he sees with AI is the ultimate value of the
(11:07):
best possible AI is going to determine the success or
failure in the future. Now, that requires moving fast, breaking
a lot of things. The government he tried to move fast,
and he tried to break a lot of things. One
of the things he said, Hey, if we get something wrong,
we'll go back and fix it. But it's better to
get something wrong and go back and fix it than
(11:27):
not to do anything at all. Most people in government
actually would prefer not to do anything at all. They
don't want to really change what exists there. And so
in order for the future to matter in a substantial way,
we have to have people like Elon Musk involved because Trump,
(11:47):
he's right, only has three and a half more years
in office. And I think what you're seeing already is
there is a sweepstakes developing on the right to try
to become Elon's faith candidate in twenty twenty eight, because
the idea is if Elon spent three hundred million dollars
on Trump three hundred million dollars in a Republican primary
(12:10):
to help elevate his preferred candidate, could be the difference
maker between who is the nominee and who's not. Now,
the relationship between Elon and Jade Vance actually seems quite
strong because Elon said that Trump should be impeached and
jd Vance should be elevated. Now, Jadie Vance has responded
and basically said, hey, you know, Trump is doing amazing work.
(12:31):
He's an incredible guy. But this is the difficulty of
being vice president is Jade Vance posted a picture of
himself with THEO Vaughn. I guess he was in town
here in Nashville doing a podcast and doing a fundraising
event in Nashville. But the analogy is really funny that
basically JD. Vance was the kid who gets sent to
sleep over at a friend's house while mom and dad
(12:52):
are fighting. And I think the importance here for Elon
going forward is he can be a force for tremendous good.
But that is the challenge as it plays out going forward.
I hope that made sense. I think it did. But
the significance of the conflict now is that Elon can
(13:15):
be a tremendous force for good going forward, and we
need to make sure that he is still engaged at
a minimum, and certainly that he is not starting to
pull the levers for the other side, because then we
go back to the Twitter that happened in twenty twenty,
which was rigged, where fair and free discourse is not allowed,
(13:35):
and where social media is putting its hand firmly on
the side of leftist politics. And unfortunately, I think that
leads to BLM riots. I think that leads to Joe
Biden weekend, to Bernie style presidencies. I think it leads
to immeasurable corruption. We need a fair and open marketplace
of ideas where the best ideas can win. When President
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know he was weighing in on Trump and Elon see
what his latest thoughts are on that. Although I would
point out again the temper tantrum theory from Elon is
quite I think Kojin at this point because he's been very,
very quiet. Also, you're probably not going to hear this
(15:29):
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measurement of the five hundred largest companies in America is
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an all time high. I wanted to make sure that
(15:50):
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consequential when everybody out there was telling you panic, Oh
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(16:13):
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if the worst case scenario happened. What if you had
(16:36):
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of your total assets. Again, that is, if you bought
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are joined now by former Speaker of the House New Gingrich.
He has got a brand new book out, Trump's Triumph
America's Greatest Comeback. We'll get into the Elon thing in
a sec, but Speaker Ginger, I appreciate you coming on
with this. You've been on with this several times. You
are a student of history. Is there any doubt that
Trump coming back to win the election is the greatest
(19:16):
American political comeback of all time? Can you even think
of a comparison in the historical record based on your knowledge?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, both, because he was in office, lost office, got
back into office, which is tied only by Grover Cleveland
in eighteen ninety two, but even deeper, he had built
such a strong following that Trump defeated Biden and then
pivoted and a couple months later defeated Harris. No other
(19:46):
candidate has defeated two major opponents in one year. And
the very fact that he's still standing. This is part
of why I wrote Trump's Triumph, which I began writing
back in October because I was convinced Who's going to win?
You think about everything they threw at him now, since
he's walked down the elevator or the escalator in twenty fifteen,
(20:09):
ten years pounding away at him, and he's still standing
and now he's once again president. So it's a remarkable achievement.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Is there anybody that you even think about historically outside
of the United States? You mentioned Grover Cleveland because one
of the great things about history is one you can
learn about everybody that came before you, but you can
also try to extrapolate how people that we don' won't
know hundreds of years from now will look back. This
is really a pretty incredible era. From the moment Trump
(20:42):
came down the escalator, people are going to be grappling
with his legacy for the next several hundred years.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh, I think that's right. I think, particularly if he
can win the election next year and retain the Republican
control of the House, he will, I think, enact so
much reform and change the old order so decisively that
he will rival everybody except Washington and Lincoln as the greatest,
(21:12):
one of the greatest change agents in American history. And
it's truly astonishing to watch him work, to realize how
many different things he's doing at the same time, and
how determined he is to literally make America great again.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Trump is the most powerful person, I think it's fair
to say in the world. Elon Musk is the richest. Yesterday,
Elon had basically what felt to me like a temper
tantrum on Twitter. He seems to have dialed it back today.
I imagine you have met Elon at some point in time.
I know you know Trump. Well, what is your take
over what happened yesterday, the relationship between the two and
(21:50):
where it goes from here.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh, you have two very powerful personalities who are also
very powerful in real sources, and Trump is the most
powerful man in the world and Elon Musk is the richest.
So it's pretty interesting. I think Elon sort of had
a temper tantrum and melt it down. When you do
(22:13):
forty tweets in one day, you are sort of undermining
yourself because it's hard for anyone to take you seriously
when you do that many. And I think he was
just he was angry, upset, didn't know what to do,
and acted all out in public, which I don't think
in the long run was to Elon musk advantage because
(22:34):
he's you know, he has a brilliant guy. What he's
done with SpaceX for example, has single handedly put America
back in the lead in space. So he's a remarkable person.
But at the same time, he's not the president. He
didn't have seventy seven million people vote for him. He's
not in a position to wield the kind of power
(22:54):
that the Constitution gives only to the president of ined States.
And I think somehow out of Marl Largo and then
hanging out at the White House, Elon forgot that he
was a supporter to the incumbent president. He wasn't an alternative.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You said, you think Trump's term in office can be
truly transformative if he's able to retain control of the House.
Republicans are in the midterms next year. What do you
think now about the squabble surrounding the so called Big
Beautiful Bill. Speaker Johnson got it through on the House side. Senate,
there are obstacles. What would your take be based on
(23:35):
what you have seen of this bill? What should happen?
What will happen?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, I think it should pass, and I think it
will pass. It'll change form a little bit, and that's
ways supposed to it. Look, the founding fathers did not
want to build a machine that you could make work
so easily that a dictator could make it work. So
they designed a machine that is so hard that we
can barely get it to work voluntarily, and they would
(23:59):
be very happy of that. They say, yeah, the price
of freedom is that you disperse power, So you got
to get a lot of people to sign off. Well,
that's frustrating, it's difficult. Mike Johnson has done a great
job as Speaker of the House, and frankly, he is
a senator's fun. The majority of the Senate is doing
(24:20):
a terrific job, and I think that between them, they
seem to have a very good understanding. The Senate will
change the bill some some of the will actually be
an improvement, and it has to be done carefully, and
if they do it just right, I think they'll bring
the bill straight from the Senate without a conference and
end up having I would guess a vote in the
(24:46):
House and it'll be close. But my hunch is that
that will end. This is the heart of the Trump project.
He has to have this bill for the economy to boom,
and I think if they get this bill through by
next June or July, will be in what will be
called the Trump boom, and we'll be creating jobs at
an unbelievable rate and take home pay will be going
(25:10):
up and affordability will be increasing and people are going
to think, you know, this was worth the effort.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
How durable is Trump is in post Trump?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Well, I think one of the reasons he picked JD.
Vance to be his vice president. Vance is a year
younger than Nixon was when Eisenhower picked him, and I
think one of the reasons he did it is he
wanted somebody who could carry on the basic core messages
and he thought that JD sort of had that in
his head. So I think guys are pretty good. I mean,
(25:41):
one of the points of my book Trump's Triumph, the Greatest,
the American People's greatest comeback, is that he really had
a message, a machine, a movement, and a messenger come together.
That going all the way back to gold Water in
sixty four, there's been a gradual that he increase in
the desire to replace the Washington establishment, and that Trump
(26:06):
came along and really focused and gave voice to the movement.
And I think that's now real. I think you're not
going to see a reversion to a traditional Republican winning
the presidency in twenty twenty eight. It's going to be
somebody who shares Trump's values, and the most likely person,
frankly JD. Events.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
For people who are interested in reading the book, what
motivated you? You said you thought Trump was going to win,
but you're a history guy too. Were you partly writing
this book to contextualize the history in real time? What
motivated You've written a lot over the years.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, so much has been going on. I wanted to
put it all in historic context. And the book both
takes you back to how Trump got here, but it
also projects forward where I think it's going to go.
And I have to say, even though we began writing
in October and finished in early February, when we went
back and reviewed the book just before its publication, the
only two things we missed were the Gulf of America
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and the desire to annex Canada and Greenmam. Other than that,
the book really did a pretty good job of capturing
where the MAGA movement was going and where Trump was going.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Speaker New Gingrits. We appreciate the time, have a good weekend.
The book Trump's Triumph, America's greatest comeback, and we hope
you're having a lot of fun on the road promoting it.
And thanks for time today. Thank you, Take care, Speaker
New Gingrits. James James Carey, that's a very big difference.
Joined the United States Marine Corps after being inspired by
his grandfather who also served our nation. I also want
(27:42):
to mention right off the top, I know I mentioned
it earlier. I don't think I mentioned this hour to
eighty first anniversary of D Day, and I hope you'll
take a little bit of time, as I know so
many people at Tunnel to Towers will, I hope you'll
take a little bit of time to think about the
legacy of all the braver that we saw on June sixth,
(28:03):
nineteen forty four, as all of those men stepped out
into the face of the Nazi guns all over Normandy
eighty one years ago. Today, I guarantee you Frank Siller,
who started Tunnel to Towers, is thinking about it. I
know him well. I guarantee you he's spending part of
his day thinking about the sacrifices those guys made and
about people like James Carey, who joined the United States
(28:26):
Marine Corps after being inspired by his grandfather, who also
served our nation. James loved being a marine, but his
life would change forever. During a training exercise, he lost
consciousness nearly drowned. The incident resulted in a brain injury
that left him blind and unable to use his body,
susceptible to memory loss, and it even brought on dementia.
(28:47):
The Tunnel the Towers Foundation built James especially adapted smart
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so much many others offer service members, first responders, so
many people offering the ultimate sacrifice have paid a high
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price to keep keep our country and our community safe.
Through Tunnel to the Towers, friends like you have said thank you,
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the number two t dot org. I'll be in DC
(29:38):
on Monday, but we'll be back with me on Tuesdays
running around with his family. Over the next couple of days,
we are going to be hanging out with a lot
of people in DC. Just finalize that we're going to
be with Trump in the Oval office. That will not
be awful. So we'll hear from him all about a
variety of different things going on, so that will be
a good trip. Will also be at the Pentagon. I
(29:58):
think we'll be at the State Department. We are going
to be all over the place next week in DC.
I hope all of you have fabulous weekends. Encourage you
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got a new book coming out in December. I'll be
(30:20):
working on the revisions for that. It's basically ready to go.
Buck's got a new book that's gonna be coming out,
I believe in January, so a couple of new books
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about the conflict between Trump and elon yesterday that blew
up in a big way. Go subscribe to the podcast.
(30:40):
You can hear me talk about it in great detail
during the course of the program. And you may have noticed.
I believe it was at the end of the first
hour that i Anthe called in. She is an astrologer
from Rochester to analyze the Elon and Trump. You said,
I believe, I am th that Trump has Secretariat like
(31:02):
astrology from your perspective, and I was like, well, I'm
a little bit. That's the horse CD if he were
a horse.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Make people like that very often.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
If Trump wore a horse, he would be Secretariat. That
is a heck of an analogy. And if you watch,
by the way, some of those old clips Secretariat, the
numbers that Secretariat posted would still be off the charts today.
Every athlete, it seems like, has gone gotten bigger, stronger,
and faster except for horses, none of which can reach
what Secretariat did. And I said, oh, how does my
(31:32):
chart look? And so you got I was born April sixth, Nashville, Tennessee,
nineteen seventy nine. You got all that info. I've never
had my chart read. What should I know? Are people
in trouble who are listening? What should we know?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I empty, Well, I didn't look at peep peck who
were listening. That would be impossible. But I just brought
up to chart at the show from its beginning, for
you know, at twelve oh five pm on the twenty
first of Jane twenty one, and it doesn't look like
it's going anywhere. It looks pretty solid. It should have
(32:06):
an emphasis on investigative stuff and going deep. And there
may be times when there's contention. People you know, call up,
people call up and are very you know, there's there's
a lot of controversy. But you've got the Sun and
Mercury up at the Medhaven with the North Note in
the ninth house next to the Medhaven. You couldn't do
(32:28):
better than that. And you've got great people working on
it with Jupiter around the sixth house, and it's a
serious show. We who don't sat in the sixth rush
Limbaugh with the Capricorn which also which also Bucket, and
so they both are in harmony with your natal ascendant
(32:52):
and ruslim Bod's venus was in Pisces near your mercury.
So it was kind of a good fit for everybody.
Now as far as you go.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Personally, Hello, yeah, yeah, no, I'm on baited breath here
because all that was great. Yeah, well I was just
I was getting nervous because all that stuff sounds amazing.
And then you know a lot of times people are like,
you know, I really like your personality, but you know,
usually like all the good news, and then there's a
butt thrown in there, and then things go a bit
(33:28):
of skew. Am I in trouble based on the charts?
Or am I looking good? What should I know?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, you're trying to perfectly reflects you and you must
have done some good stuff on the passway. The only
thing that worries me. You're doing exactly what you should do.
You were born to be a lawyer. You were born
to be in the radio. You were boring to go
through a transition in your professional and broadcasting life with
(33:55):
that pluto in the ninth House, and you've got a
lot of strength there. You're never going to have to
worry about money. You sometimes can get very sharp verbally,
which you're supposed to. And there was some issue about
whether to practice law or not. And I suspect also
(34:17):
that you took your time deciding on to get married,
but when you did, you picked It looks like you
made a really good choice to the Southern House of marriage,
public relations, public image relations, and legal matters being a lawyer.
Not only did you need to do that, but it's
(34:39):
really good for you. You've got moments you put are there.
You do some surprising things sometimes publicly, I think, did
you do something? Was there something like was a fast
to protest something? In sports?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I hate putting because I was upset because my
team wasn't wasn't available. Okay, all this is pretty good. Uh,
but what do I need to be concerned about?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, you've got the same problem as Trump in the
second house, of which is not only it's not it's
not a money problem, although you'd like to be very
concerned about finances for the sake of your family, and
I think that you may, if you don't yet, would
(35:26):
be well advised to have involvement with real estate. But
you've got the tendency to each stuff that is not
good for you.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
That is all pretty accurate.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, and with enough tune up in the eleventh house.
The eleven house is a lot of things. You're very idealistic,
and you have friends who are creative and sensitive and
musical and all that good stuff there, it's probably stuff.
(36:01):
Some of your friends are probably great private people, and
you don't know everything about them. But where that next
screen is problematic. It just said it's going that has
to be eleven houses blood pressure, And it's on the
same access to the fifth house.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Of a heart, so I need to be on top
of my blood pressure and my heart. Otherwise, there we go.
Have great weekends. I love all of you.
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